Dope! I had a feeling the new calipers could be a direct bolt on with no adapters needed! Very cost effective compared to my plan, made adapters to fit some very popular new brembos that come on the alfas and Teslas 🤫
Yes you can. You will be left with a 5mm dust ring and a very expensive rotor to replace in the future. Approx. 100€ for VW(pair) vs 300€ each for the CSL rotor.
Thanks for this guide. I just made the mod on my 323ci, bored the disc center on a lathe, and used 0.9mm M12 washer. No way to use the disc holder hole, it's not aligned with the hub. Fits without spacer on my 18" rims. But it feels like the stock brakes lines are a bit short (at least when the car is jacked up). Have you notice that ? How is yours holding so far ? (I used Aftermarket calipers though)
Why did the style 68 rims no fit? which ones fronts? rears? is it due to spacing in terms of 17 inch diameter so the wheel hits the top of the caliper or the side of the caliper where it meets the spokes of the wheels?
Hi I can get a set of 4,, 435d xdrive un painted calipers with the original disks 340s will these fit or do i need transporter disks e46 non m3 Cheers 👌
Or is the only issue that the caliper is further out which might clash with the inside face of the wheel ? Did you try to fit e90 335i calipers before this ?
Thank you for this video!! Tried so hard to find a forum thread that I thought UA-cam would be hopeless. Do you think the 370mm front discs (same front calipers) would fit in an 18inch style 32 (e36)
@@mykekfz6204 thanks for the reply. Will be doing in the near future, already got the 18' style 32's...... I'm planning on putting the matching Fxx rear 2 pot calipers on too, what are your thoughts on fitting? Happy to replace the rear hubs as want new bearings anyway
This is false information. The blue calipers can either be 370 or 340. I listed the correct part numbers in the video. And if you didn't watch the video then here are the correct "blue" 340mm calipers part #. 3411679945 and 34116799466
gray 340mm it's a 3 liter engine stock blue 340mm it's a 2 liter engine m-sport brakes option for f30 blue 370mm it's a 3 liter engine m-sport brakes option for f30
Great video, thank you! Do I really need 6.44mm caliper spacer for Z4 E85 non M model? I always thought E46 and E85 had identical front brake setup and E46 has listed 0.9mm spacer in the video .
@@mykekfz6204 I just installed this kit on my E85 and it fits like a glove! On my particular application, spacer between knuckle and caliper should be around 1.5mm to perfectly center brake disc in the caliper, but I guess it depends on the tolerances of the disc and wheel hub manufacturer (I used ATE disc). Anyway, it works great, thank you very much again for figuring out of this combo :) Are you by any chance planning to look at the rear brakes?
@@josefmrkvicka9447i think 1.5MM is too much and it wont fit Brand new pads. the Z4(E84/E86) uses the exact spindle as all non m e46s. With brand new pads and VW 340MM (centerbore machined) Disc it wont work. Unless you got something else.
nice. If you can get away with a 20mm spacer with your wheels. you can use the F Series M Sport 340mm Discs, then enlarge the Spacers center bore to 8cm and put the spacer behind the disc and its all BMW OEM parts Slightly better maintenance wise as you dont need to keep getting Discs modified Like i did here: ua-cam.com/video/z1MX5lvMrz8/v-deo.html no need to add washers to space the calipers either.
@@TheNikolius watch my video :) everything Seats together, lines up and works perfect. you can get 3d printed hub rings if your super conscious about center alignment. but all good for me.
you dont even need shims. if you use theses discs as in the video, you have to bring them to the machine shop anyways. so ask them to machine out the inside of the hub the amount required. They can be made to sit perfectly centre without any shims as the hub material is 3mm thicker than OEM so gives you plenty of room
@@nikeorg1 E46 (ne M3) taip. Suportai tiesiog kaip originalus prisisuka, viskas tinka 100%. Su T5 diskais pirma centrine skyle issitekink 79mm, kad uzsimautu, tada uzmauk juos, prisuk suportus ir apsiskaiciuok kiek tau reikes is disko vidaus istekint, kad diskas paciam suporto centre sedetu. Bus kazkas apie 1mm (gali but 1.1mm ar 0.9mm). Cia priklauso kokie rato guoliai, originalus ar FAG ar dar kokie aftermarket keisti nes jie visi skirias gyliu biski, tiksliai zinosi primataves. Ir viskas. Originalaus disko storis per centra 7mm, T5 - 10mm, 1mm ispjausi, liks 9mm, man reikejo ilgesniu rato varztu, tai ebajui uzsisakiau 5mm spacerius vien del varztu. Dar gali reiket biski ilgesniu stabdziu zarneliu. Tinka originalios, bet man atrode, kad jos biski issitempia per daug, tai uzsisakiau HEL performance pakaitalus, tik 3cm ilgesnes. Stabdziu dacika, jei desi, tinka standartinis, del kaladeliu fufliaku isvis nerekomenduoju, visiskas gavno.. Dek originalias M paketo, o geriausios (ir brangiausios) originalios nuo M-kes, tik jos gali cypt, jei nepakepinsi stadziu kartais karstai. Tai daugmaz tiek. Jei masina E46 M3, tai be saibu neapsieisi, isnesimai kitokie, e36 speju bus panasiai, kaip e46, bet pats e36 nedares, tai nzn
@@nikeorg1 tai uzmauk diska, prisuk suporta ir ziurek kaip jis stovi tame suporte. I isore bus mazesnis tarpas tarp disko ir suporto cilindriuku, nei i vidu. issimatuok tarpu ploti, tarkim isore 2mm mazesne nei vidus, vadinas 1mm is disko vidaus nutekinus, diskas pasistums i vidu ir tarpai issilygins
@Andreas_rxp300 Für das F80-Setup müssen Sie 2 mm Distanzscheiben hinter den Bremsscheiben installieren oder 2 mm von den hinteren Befestigungsgewinden an den F80-Bremssätteln entfernen. Die 2. Lösung wird meine Wahl sein, danach sollte alles funktionieren. Diese Kombination funktioniert nur, wenn Sie einen F80-Bremssattel und -Rotoren verwenden.
Dope! I had a feeling the new calipers could be a direct bolt on with no adapters needed! Very cost effective compared to my plan, made adapters to fit some very popular new brembos that come on the alfas and Teslas 🤫
Thanks for taking the time to make and post this very informative video.
Great work 👍
thats good info to know you can use even bigger brakes on e36 great job
u can use also e46 M3 CSL / ZCP Front Brake Rotors - Pair (345x28)mm
Yes you can. You will be left with a 5mm dust ring and a very expensive rotor to replace in the future. Approx. 100€ for VW(pair) vs 300€ each for the CSL rotor.
you dont have to use the CSL rotor, you can use the standard M3 rotor on E46 non M and possibly on E36
@@ozstriker4075 do you have a picture or video to show this
Thanks for this guide. I just made the mod on my 323ci, bored the disc center on a lathe, and used 0.9mm M12 washer. No way to use the disc holder hole, it's not aligned with the hub.
Fits without spacer on my 18" rims.
But it feels like the stock brakes lines are a bit short (at least when the car is jacked up). Have you notice that ? How is yours holding so far ? (I used Aftermarket calipers though)
On a lathe woaaah 😂😂 sorry I love lathes Id love to get one one day
Great work, thank you!!!
Are Kamoka JBC0861 and JBC0862 compatible with 340mm disks?
wouldnt you want to use braided brake lines?
Why did the style 68 rims no fit? which ones fronts? rears? is it due to spacing in terms of 17 inch diameter so the wheel hits the top of the caliper or the side of the caliper where it meets the spokes of the wheels?
Hi I can get a set of 4,, 435d xdrive un painted calipers with the original disks 340s will these fit or do i need transporter disks e46 non m3
Cheers 👌
Amazing thank you for the video ! Does this setup push the wheel outwards at all?
Or is the only issue that the caliper is further out which might clash with the inside face of the wheel ?
Did you try to fit e90 335i calipers before this ?
I think CSL discs fit with these calipers as well
Not if you want it to fit probably.
Hey mate how did you convert the TPM button to MDM on the e63?
Thank you for this video!! Tried so hard to find a forum thread that I thought UA-cam would be hopeless. Do you think the 370mm front discs (same front calipers) would fit in an 18inch style 32 (e36)
It might clear. i don't know for sure tho. let us know the outcome.
@@mykekfz6204 thanks for the reply. Will be doing in the near future, already got the 18' style 32's...... I'm planning on putting the matching Fxx rear 2 pot calipers on too, what are your thoughts on fitting? Happy to replace the rear hubs as want new bearings anyway
Which adapters did you use?
The painted blue are different than the grey. The blue ones use 370mm rotor vs 340mm for the grey.
This is false information. The blue calipers can either be 370 or 340. I listed the correct part numbers in the video. And if you didn't watch the video then here are the correct "blue" 340mm calipers part #.
3411679945 and 34116799466
gray 340mm it's a 3 liter engine stock
blue 340mm it's a 2 liter engine m-sport brakes option for f30
blue 370mm it's a 3 liter engine m-sport brakes option for f30
Just to be sure before i start the work, are the rotors centered in the caliper with the 0,09 mm shims?
I thought I made that clear in the video. The exact size is .863mm. .9 works perfect. 1mm was a bit too much which caused a bit of pad dragging.
@@mykekfz6204 In fact in the video the shim is 0,09 which is very thin, so i wanted to double check. 0,9 sounds much more like it, thanks!
It doesnt fit with styling 38 because of diameter or offset ?
I never tried style 38.
Great video, thank you! Do I really need 6.44mm caliper spacer for Z4 E85 non M model? I always thought E46 and E85 had identical front brake setup and E46 has listed 0.9mm spacer in the video
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.9 spacer for the z4 non m.
@@mykekfz6204 I just installed this kit on my E85 and it fits like a glove! On my particular application, spacer between knuckle and caliper should be around 1.5mm to perfectly center brake disc in the caliper, but I guess it depends on the tolerances of the disc and wheel hub manufacturer (I used ATE disc). Anyway, it works great, thank you very much again for figuring out of this combo :) Are you by any chance planning to look at the rear brakes?
@@josefmrkvicka9447 it sounds like you didn't use the VW Disc as described in the video.
@@mykekfz6204 I have ordered the exact part number as described in the video.
@@josefmrkvicka9447i think 1.5MM is too much and it wont fit Brand new pads.
the Z4(E84/E86) uses the exact spindle as all non m e46s. With brand new pads and VW 340MM (centerbore machined) Disc it wont work. Unless you got something else.
Very cool! Do the CSL 345mm rotors fit these calipers without modifying?
Yes they do fit
@@Tyreakmcgregor They don't. Calipers need to be machined for E46M3
Do I need a calipers adapter or they just bolt on on original to caliper carrier ?
No adaptor needed.
Do you need bigger discs if you have a 330Ci ?
watch the video
You dont need reduction for callipers ?
Can you be more specific on your question?It doesn't make any sense to me.
my friend can u use the original brake disc?
not the F30 disc, not really. on non M e46 you can use M3 or M3 CSL
www.e46fanatics.com/threads/f30-m-sport-brembo-big-brake-install.1075669/page-3
and on e36
nice.
If you can get away with a 20mm spacer with your wheels.
you can use the F Series M Sport 340mm Discs, then enlarge the Spacers center bore to 8cm and put the spacer behind the disc and its all BMW OEM parts
Slightly better maintenance wise as you dont need to keep getting Discs modified
Like i did here:
ua-cam.com/video/z1MX5lvMrz8/v-deo.html
no need to add washers to space the calipers either.
Would this not mean either the disc to hub or rim to disc is not properly seated to eachother? Genuinely interested as I am doing this upgrade
@@TheNikolius watch my video :) everything Seats together, lines up and works perfect.
you can get 3d printed hub rings if your super conscious about center alignment. but all good for me.
hey bro. what about rear callipers?
On what car? E46 non M, with 5mm spacer and stock 330 rear discs
@@ozstriker4075 what about on an E46 M3?
Where did you buy the shims from and what diameter are the shims?
you can make shims yourself, sheet of aluminium or appropriate gauge of steel
you dont even need shims. if you use theses discs as in the video, you have to bring them to the machine shop anyways. so ask them to machine out the inside of the hub the amount required. They can be made to sit perfectly centre without any shims as the hub material is 3mm thicker than OEM so gives you plenty of room
@@nikeorg1 E46 (ne M3) taip. Suportai tiesiog kaip originalus prisisuka, viskas tinka 100%. Su T5 diskais pirma centrine skyle issitekink 79mm, kad uzsimautu, tada uzmauk juos, prisuk suportus ir apsiskaiciuok kiek tau reikes is disko vidaus istekint, kad diskas paciam suporto centre sedetu. Bus kazkas apie 1mm (gali but 1.1mm ar 0.9mm). Cia priklauso kokie rato guoliai, originalus ar FAG ar dar kokie aftermarket keisti nes jie visi skirias gyliu biski, tiksliai zinosi primataves. Ir viskas. Originalaus disko storis per centra 7mm, T5 - 10mm, 1mm ispjausi, liks 9mm, man reikejo ilgesniu rato varztu, tai ebajui uzsisakiau 5mm spacerius vien del varztu. Dar gali reiket biski ilgesniu stabdziu zarneliu. Tinka originalios, bet man atrode, kad jos biski issitempia per daug, tai uzsisakiau HEL performance pakaitalus, tik 3cm ilgesnes. Stabdziu dacika, jei desi, tinka standartinis, del kaladeliu fufliaku isvis nerekomenduoju, visiskas gavno.. Dek originalias M paketo, o geriausios (ir brangiausios) originalios nuo M-kes, tik jos gali cypt, jei nepakepinsi stadziu kartais karstai. Tai daugmaz tiek. Jei masina E46 M3, tai be saibu neapsieisi, isnesimai kitokie, e36 speju bus panasiai, kaip e46, bet pats e36 nedares, tai nzn
@@nikeorg1 tai uzmauk diska, prisuk suporta ir ziurek kaip jis stovi tame suporte. I isore bus mazesnis tarpas tarp disko ir suporto cilindriuku, nei i vidu. issimatuok tarpu ploti, tarkim isore 2mm mazesne nei vidus, vadinas 1mm is disko vidaus nutekinus, diskas pasistums i vidu ir tarpai issilygins
Hi wollte fragen ob du auch Erfahrung mit der bremsscheiben fom bmw F80 hast? Diese soll auch passen
Nur die Bremsscheibe wird nicht funktionieren, Sie werden auch F80-Bremssättel benötigen.
@@mykekfz6204 ich habe F80 Sättel und bremsscheiben. Bin auf der Suche nach den Adaptern
@@theone0070 Für welches Modell?
E46 / e36 oder E46M3 / Z4M
Möchte sie auf einem M3 e46 2004 montieren
@Andreas_rxp300 Für das F80-Setup müssen Sie 2 mm Distanzscheiben hinter den Bremsscheiben installieren oder 2 mm von den hinteren Befestigungsgewinden an den F80-Bremssätteln entfernen. Die 2. Lösung wird meine Wahl sein, danach sollte alles funktionieren.
Diese Kombination funktioniert nur, wenn Sie einen F80-Bremssattel und -Rotoren verwenden.