Insane or Ingenious? Food Forest has fruit trees planted 2-3 feet apart tour
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- John from www.growingyour... visits a permaculture food forest garden in St. Petersburg, Florida to share with you how they planted fruit trees just 2-3 feet apart!
In this episode, you will discover a home that has hundreds of young fruit trees planted really close together. You will learn the reasons why the homeowners planted this close to each other and if it is insane or ingenious. You will learn about some of the more established fruit trees on the property and how to grow noni fruit in South Florida.
You will learn how you can grow fruit trees underneath old growth canopy trees that are existing on your property, as well as use your home to protect some trees from frost.
You will discover some rare fruit trees that are being grown by the gardeners and why they choose to plant tropical fruit trees that may not survive in their climate zone.
You will learn a unique way to store tropical fruit seeds so they remain viable, as letting they dry out may decrease their viability.
you will discover a few leafy green vegetables and even a root vegetable that you must grow if you live in south Florida.
After watching this episode you will learn more about planting fruit trees too close and if it is a good idea or not, as well as get a full tour of this food forest that maximizes the space to grow the most food in South West Florida.
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Hi! We are the former owners of this property and want to give you a happy update. The house sold and, luckily, we rejected the offer from the developer who wanted to remove all life except lawn. We found a very nice couple who not only loved it but were enthusiastic about caring for all creatures, green and otherwise. We are thrilled to have had such success in keeping out a company without a soul and maintaining the neighborhood's character. Also, this property is literally feeding the new owners and its other inhabitants at a time when supply chain shortages will make this more valuable as time goes on. Thanks to John for his fabulous work inspiring us all, to the most patient real estate guy ever, to all who helped us get it ship shape and ready to sell, and to Ed Dex who made a perfect offer in the comments and we'd have taken you up on it if we hadn't already sold it. Helping each other and nature is what it's all about. Thanks to all for being a part of our fun and productive experiment!!! If we were still there, I'm sure we'd have beaten our 120+ species record already! We are now learning how to grow plants indoors, selling starts inexpensively so those around us have food as the economy worsens, and have even learned that one can order fish to grow (even in a spare bathtub!) from companies such as Green Hill Gardens out of Oregon for way less money than we'd have thought. Remember, you don't have to have a big plot of land, just good quality non-irradiated, non-GMO seeds, dirt and water. You don't need an expensive system. Leftover milk cartons and Solo cups work great to start new green babies! And a bag of potatoes goes a long way with sprouted chunks in big plastic bins - even indoors! Now is a great time to collect and trade seeds, learn to regrow what is found at the grocery stores, try new to you and heirloom varieties, get to know what plants and yard weeds are edible (dig up those dandelions and protect them - we've paid $20 for those salad greens in fancy restaurants! and use those clover flowers for tea!), trade cuttings with friends and neighbors, replenish your soil with spent coffee grounds and wood ashes and food scraps and keep it all organic since you'll be eating it (fuck Monsanto and Round-Up killing all our pollinators!), get a mower that doesn't leak oil and gas on your land, if possible, and replace as much grass as you can with edibles like sweet potatoes and ground covers, and, of course, grow for self and others. Plants have never been more popular! Victory gardens here we come! Best wishes to all during this weird time in history. Resistance to letting it all go to hell comes in planting gardens of Eden in whatever spaces you can find, indoors or out (in a room away from pets so they and your plants will be safe since some are toxic and there's nothing more tempting than grabbing at a branch)! Thanks again, John, for the many ideas you give us. Your videos and enthusiasm greatly inspire us. Let's all get growing those greens!!! And, remember, as someone more than once wisely said, if you truly want a tree to grow, it will. :D
God Bless you!
& it isn't a weird time in history! It is a Full on Plandemic/1984-RONA-version for 'their' New World Order. Staring...a medical version on Communism.
What a cool update. Glad things worked out for the best!
So happy to hear this!
You are an inspiration. I just bought a house. Have small yard but planted 6 fruit trees so far
I love food forestry. I have 3 food Forest areas on my property in Indiana. I have purchased virtually every fruit tree, fruit bush, culinary and medicinal plant variety I will ever want. Now I use these "mother plants" to cultivate more plants as I fill in my acreage. "Less grass - more food - less work". Thats my goal.😉👍
This fellow is helping my wife and I with our mature food forest in North Central Florida. We are trying several of those tropical fruit trees. Our food forest has its own microclimate and allows tropical trees to grow.
There's another reason for planting fruit trees close. It's a natural way of keeping them small. Great for a home yard mini orchard. Check out Dave Wilson's nursery videos. I do like watching your vids, cheers from Australia
I'm watching from Australia too. This guy is great.
Im watching as well from Australia this guy is choice mate 😅
Love how you show different ideas from different people.
My neighbor thinks I’m stupid for planting them like that , he’s the stupid one who thinks monoculture grown trees is the best way 🤣🤣🤣
Hey John. I’m in South Florida Broward county. If you want to visit my backyard food forest let me know. It’s a work in progress. Also any locals who are into gardening and food Forest and homestead gardening, we can swap ideas and plants.
Hey, I’m in Broward county too. Follow my Instagram if you want @stopandsmelltheherbs
I came here from video influencers shout out regarding how he shoots his videos with one taking uploads. And I looked at the first one and it was true. But then when I played this one clearly has the little intro in a much higher quality camera so although I don’t know this content very well I’m glad to see that there are people out there who just record quality information and gather a following without any need for a fancy edits or intros or bumpers. Keep up the good work
Thanks for your videos John. I just love your whit. If I was half my age I’d have to meet you. Lol.
Anyone buying this place is pretty lucky!🌱
“Im standing erect. I like when other things are erect.” 🤣 I love this guy
I planted 5 apple seeds in one spot now I have a 5 trunk apple tree
Definitely! When I was in the TBA I could grow papaya, banana, pineapple, etc. with little care for spacing. Papaya need males and females interplanted for good pollination. Just depends on the varieties and if improved the sand s little
What an amazing yard. I know it’s hard for them. Hopefully someone will buy an care for it. Great video 🌱🌱🌱
I have seen some of his videos from like 8 or 9 years ago and he seems to be aging very well !
Famous last words: I’m running out of light. Lol 😂
Lol I’m gonna try to grow kiwi vines above my raspberries. Kiwis need full sun but raspberries do okay with partial sun. I’ll see if it works and if it does work it’ll be more productive than raspberries Alone!
So a trellis over the raspberries?
relevent Hurt` ya I put posts in last year since the kiwi vines had just been planted last spring.
I thought this might work too, but my kiwi vines are so big and dense, there's zero light that gets thru, so the raspberries (shortcake variety) underneath aren't looking too good and I'm not expecting fruit.
Also, I planted some peas this spring next to the kiwis thinking they could climb up the vines. They germinated well but as soon as the kiwis put on leaves they all died cuz the sun completely blocked them. I thought I put them far enough too!
Joey Eng ya mine died back to the ground last winter in Kentucky they’re supposed to be winter hardy but we will see what happens lol. :) maybe thin your kiwi some idk 🤷♂️
I love it that you show how the way a resident can grow so much in such small areas that's what I am all about..I wish that small properties were so cheap but we are in America and nothing is below 10 thousand dollars any more /// can you have an episode of an mobile garden please.
I'm creating a mobile green house for fruit & vegetables. It's in its preliminary stages
Like a covertable bus? So what are you doing?
I dont understand why people so stressed about plant spacing im old as hell and if you doing a container it matters to a little bit due to limited resources...
On non containers it barely affects them do to the fact that they grow to maximize for their environment...
People typically struggle with this due to the fact that we relate life better in 2 dimensions where life works in 3...
My case in point is a tree or vine they will adjust their growth to find the light they need and will do the same with the roots to find that air water and minerals in the ground..natures been working and thriving longer than we been around...lol
I see the former owners updated 3 years ago, i would really like to see an update video on this property. See how the high density has panned out. Hopefully the people who bought it didnt try to make a buck on with the housing market trend and end up selling it this time to a investor/developer. I havent seen any updates on any of these high density methods and im concerned about making mine any denser since i too have trees with 2-3ft spacings but its still young.
I’m trying to recreate this in my home in Sacramento!
Good luck, happy planting brother, thanks for being a good steward of the land!
How’s it going?
Thank you for sharing this info!!
Not surprised that some money hungry robot has no interest in organic food at home. Talk about a beautiful healthy home. I just hope that they do it again when they move. I want my garden like that so I don't hear the noise pollution from the machines all around us today. I am slowly growing a little fruit forest, YOU inspire me with that, thank you.
Ingenious 👍 I find plants 🌱 grows well with companions
I am planting raspberries and blackberries tomorrow as well as my Apple & Plum trees. Great video and great to see those tree's.
You are funny John. I have been researching for about a week now about starting my own mini green house and what kinds of plants I want to grow. I live in the Jacksonville area so trying to find something good for our weather. While I was listening to some UA-cam at work about gardening, one of your videos came on. Been listening to you for 3 days now. You are very intelligent and have a lot of information to share. Thank you for your time and hard work helping us all the way you do.
Yes John is a legend actually one of the reason my family n I started out on this UA-cam thing
I am also a cook and love to utilize these plants to to see what I can do ...yeah I can dream it is a past time and also a change in life style that is healthier and more beneficial than all the Jass that the food congratulates of companies are spinning about products that are organic..but they use natural and artificial ingredients they do not have to print on their labels.. I am exhausted
You make vegetables so savory and delicious.. you should be a chef
Amazing beautiful property, thanks for sharing this!
great video. thank you.
im in florida growing muscadine grapes. they are amazingly hardy and prolific. before growing them, i tried other grapes with no success. muscadines dont need pestacides, they dont even need fertilizer, but i do add that to them.
Love the video title!
John is indeed a legend I'm learning from as well
Cool stuff
I will help you with the mortgage of the home by being a 5 year long term tenant just that you do not raise the rent more than 650 hundred dollars a month and do not raise the rent because I will help with the gardening
neat video!
Dont hurt the frogs John!
I hope the new owners kept these plants!
Hi John. I live in Altamonte Springs and would love to meet you. Obviously, you're interested in making money so, I'd like to help with that as well. Love your videos! The Central Central Florida area is very poorly represented on UA-cam and Rumble but, you are doing your part and more. Appreciate you much. I'm finding very little harm whatsoever it growing same tree, different cultivar, three feet apart. Also, it helps create an anti-winter micro-climate.
One problem is the tree may not make it because it doesn’t get enough light or fight for nutrients from soil
How close can you plant apples peaches or plums to a house if you keep it no taller than 9 feet?
At around 16:18 is that a large podocarpus in the back, off to the left?
You should try to find someone growing gynostemma pentaphylum, We need to keep that plant alive also.😄👍
27 degrees latitude is approaching the Tropics.Its not that much of a stretch...Florida is definitely subtropical.
I always thought the beautyberry was toxic?!?! It grows all over my property.
You're in my hometown!
Damn. Wish I had met this dude when I lived there. Would have been great idea and plant swapping! May return, who knows.
if you plant it in florida it becomes a HUGE sized plant
Ya he needs to stick with Cali.
Do you have a video about the edible hibiscus? What is it's zone?
Moringa trees don't have much of a spread and they are NOT shade trees, so I think they're prefect for growing in close proximity to many other types of plants/trees.
Just getting ready to start a veggie garden. Can i plant in 5 gal buckets? Any reccomendations for a beginner? Is there an online company you reccomend for organic seeds? Im also interested in dwarf fruit trees. Im in NorCal.
Just over 50% of my veggie garden is in orange 5 gal. buckets. The most of the rest are in Smart Pots (5 gal+), larger nursery pots, and a few raised beds. The only thing I have in the ground are the pumpkins. I had terrible results growing in compost. I changed things up and now I buy something called Acid Mix from a nursery in my area. It’s comprised of Peat Moss, pumice, and perlite. Only stuff I add to it is some Azomite for all veggies and miuriate of potash for the root veggies. All other amendments like compost, worm castings, blood meal, bone meal, epsom salt, and others I add as top dressing. When I transplant my seedlings, I water in well and add some special nutrients to the watering can. I feed with water soluble nutrients (fish and kelp emulsion) every couple of weeks. That’s worked for me, anyways. Best thing to do is ask questions at your local nursery.
@@papirojo4228 Wow what a wealth of infornation. Thank you so much. Now i cant wait to get started. U da man😁💙
St.Petersburg is zone 10a.
We have attempted this plan with fruit trees on 36" centers. We placed them in a line underplanted with herbs and strawberries. We chopped them to knee high the first year.
We saw this method proposed in the book "Grow a Little Fruit Tree." We're approaching year 4 and the only fruit we've harvested thus far are persimmons other than the strawberries.
So success or failure?
Most fruit trees take between 5-7 years to provide a real harvest. You may get a few in the beginning, but it takes time and patience.
No citrus in Florida bumba clot
You should buy this property and have a restaurant or go to the next level and sell natural and organic products ...here..O I love Florida for a climate for diversity you should be a neighbor I will totally be a customer for life
Breadfruit becomes a monstrous tree
I love the star Apple fruit and I’ve been looking for the seedlings or seeds here in south Florida. Anybody have any or other tropical plants fruits to share/trade that would be great.
BlackHoleSun thank. I’ll take seeds too. 👍
@BlackHoleSun Facebook has a few fruit tree growers groups you can get seeds
Realistically, how do we keep squirrels from eating all our peaches and pears? Literally ALL of them!
Has anyone used BidNGrow yet? Curious about how it went? I’m hearing a lot of good things
Bidngrow is a Greedy load need more to say...leave us alone
do not benefit on the fact that people want to not have to depend on greedy bastards like this company to grow and feed their family..it is not a fair way to commerce just the same as farmers market claim their produce are grown in farms when all you have to look for is boxes all over with taped up logos..you know I call this scamming
A lot of these companies that go online are expensive for the same thing you get at what they call farmers market but in reality they are a wanna be whole foods ..stay away.. go to a farmers market for real and you will realize that u get better savings in the end...and the other thing..they are the waste that no one wants for the future if you know what I am saying...lots of the online companies exploding right now are the reason that land fills are increasing in every state in the united states but again lets grub a dud..but now with vegetables..when will this new trend die...oh no I do not no/// c
He’s having mixed emotions about this ha!
R.I.P : frog #1
Hey buddy. Have you been really busy? Notice you don't post much anymore. It's like one post a month
You can always look at some of mine if you need something for extra watching lol
How tall does a bread fruit tree grow?
I would guess easily 50 feet and very wide with thick branches. They are humongous
Are you okay. Seems like your legs are hurting. God bless.
John, the bean inside the coffee cherry is not what you roast, there is a second bean inside that, and THAT is what you roast. Not sure if you knew that. I grew two Arabica trees in a kitchen window, great very tall and produced enough for one cup of coffee which was so fun! Anyway, that’s how I knew this. Also, on that money tree, you ignored the fact that there was something long and yellow sticking out from it that looked like a banana. What was that?
The creatures lived here first? And we invaded? What That Crazy Sauce?! You Know We Are MAMMALS... And Are Part Of Nature, Right? We aren't Cyborgs from Outer Space...
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666k subs, the dark lord approves. great channel btw ; been tacitly viewing your vids for years. i loved the one about summer loving plants for super hot climates. well in dood !
So is this St. Pete or Fort Meyers? I'm confused, you said it was both. Looks like a craphole town either way, neighbor's backyard looks like Deliverance and all the sirens and dogs barking in the background. Florida has some pretty shady areas unless you're in a gated community, which I can't afford anyways so no thanks to Florida.
I'd worry about mice, pesky little dudes.
I thought that when you plant a fruit tree, you don't want to put a bunch of compost in the planting hole because then the roots tend to just stay in the compost and sort of gets itself root bound and doesn't spread out into the soil.
12:09 You’re welcome. This is how I eat.
Good one ...love your channel name btw
John they are using a garden to sell their property how many times you see this gimmick for a plus up on them making more money for what they are selling... I LIKE you and continue watching you but you know the person who buys this property wont give a ..... about a garden they are more interested in the house
Eat more Beets make you pretty much i no about thanks for letting me know a the Berries and you was in my hometown visit hope you had a lots of fun we have a lots of single girls here and Beautiful and pretty.
Your videos are always way too long. Some people do not have so much time to watch your movies, these are not vlogs.
Good thing he's not making you watch. SMH.
And you talk too much about unnecessary stuff.