The TRUE Dragon Ball GT power scale (part 1)

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • In this video I’m going to be scaling all of Dragon Ball GT this is part one of three and I go down the basis of the beginning arts of Dragon Ball GT I hope you guys enjoy. I do not own any of the pictures or clips that are in this video they all belong to the respective owners.
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  • @_KAZI
    @_KAZI  3 роки тому +168

    Anyone here from TikTok?

  • @prometheusmodelow8322
    @prometheusmodelow8322 3 роки тому +35

    Good scaling, i agree with everything except i consider untrained Uub as on par with Kid Buu (remember that it was Buu's natural power, Buu never had any training same as Uub), thus making Base Goku from end of Z superior to SS3 Goku given Base Goku had the upper hand, this also makes trained Uub from the beginning massively stronger than Kid Buu, given how when one trains with a strong partner gains a massive amp (example: Piccolo in the Android Arc going from weaker than 3rd Form Frieza to Super Saiyan Vegeta level).

  • @Aaaaammmmmmgggg
    @Aaaaammmmmmgggg 3 роки тому +36

    U deserve way more hype

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +4

      Thank you so much❤️

  • @Zion5G
    @Zion5G 3 роки тому +18

    Finally someone who knows something about gt good job 👍

  • @great159
    @great159 10 місяців тому +3

    Don't forget Goku goes SSJ2 BRIEFLY against Rildo (metal). That makes his SSJ2 stronger than Rildo🤓

  • @steezymonke318
    @steezymonke318 3 роки тому +32

    I’m watching GT right now and so far it’s really good, I don’t know why it gets so much hate, I can’t really progress more into the video because of spoilers but I’ll finish the video when I finish the series, you’ll make it big bro 🙌

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +6

      Really appreciate it bro❤️❤️

    • @Andre-id9dl
      @Andre-id9dl 3 роки тому +11

      GT and Super aren't as bad as people put it out to be

    • @daizenmarcurio
      @daizenmarcurio 3 роки тому +1

      @@Andre-id9dl facts

    • @gabrielchastain6091
      @gabrielchastain6091 3 роки тому

      @@Andre-id9dl thank you

    • @masterfox6832
      @masterfox6832 2 роки тому +1

      @@Andre-id9dl true but i loved z the most

  • @ParadiseDB7
    @ParadiseDB7 3 роки тому +12

    Part 2, when? This was a very good video with lots of detailed explanations, I enjoyed it a lot.

  • @ironmaster8925
    @ironmaster8925 3 роки тому +19

    I really loved this as a GT fan, so therefore I subscribed, csnt wait for part 2!

  • @sergioarisio8921
    @sergioarisio8921 Рік тому +1

    I'm sorry but somewhat stronger doesn't always means 50 times stronger...

  • @_big00f_9
    @_big00f_9 3 роки тому +4

    “I can already smell the comments”

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +3

      😏sniff

  • @spacedandyland1989
    @spacedandyland1989 Рік тому +2

    I agree with everything aside from the fact that buuhan was nit the strongest 😂 I have no idea why everyone thinks that, but all of them clearly never paid attention to the series. Kidbu was the absolute most dangerous. And was even stated that when he absorbed The fat Kai, If it made him weaker and his nature nicer. When buuhan cane to be, he still had fat buu inside him also meaning he had cfat Kai as well meaning he is still weaker..

    • @creed6719
      @creed6719 Рік тому

      You would be 100% correct. The dbz manga says kid buu is weaker then super buu. And buuhan is the strongest buu by far.
      But that’s only the manga, the anime makes kid buu the strongest buu and being that Gt is dbz anime continuation Gt during the rilldo saga says kid buu was gokus strongest opponent.
      It makes no sense why kid buu is the strongest buu but that’s just dbz anime and Gt cannon.

  • @ivriymbenyasharahla2634
    @ivriymbenyasharahla2634 Рік тому +1

    Hey Kazi can you tell me the name of the background song playing, it's 🔥 and tiiight!!!

  • @FateHero
    @FateHero 3 роки тому +7

    I love this!

  • @osoglo
    @osoglo 3 роки тому +3

    here from tiktok

  • @jordandavilabrown294
    @jordandavilabrown294 Рік тому +2

    Good video, but there's some issues with it.
    1. Luud in stage 2 or 3 isn't then ssj Goku and Trunks, you see the reason why Goku and Trunks temporary turned ssj against stage 2 Luud was so they could get him off of them since he was heavy and when Luud when to stage 3 Goku and Trunks still didn't use ssj against him thus impling that he still wasn't strong enough to push them to that level.
    2. In the anime Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan since both Goku, Kibito kai and the narrator said his the strongest form of Buu. This would include in rage Buuhan who made ssj Vegito struggle a little bit in breaking through his shout barrier.
    3. It would make more sense for base Rilldo to be relevant to ssj Vegito in power base off of what I said in 2#.

  • @ValleyProtein
    @ValleyProtein Місяць тому +1

    This video does GT justice!

  • @okaradragonicsaiyan
    @okaradragonicsaiyan 3 роки тому +3

    I subbed because it was my 3rd and almost 2nd favourite Dragon Ball series

  • @great159
    @great159 10 місяців тому +2

    GT takes place 10yrs after the end of DBZ not 5yrs. Goku has trained for a total of 20yrs from the time he killed Majin Boo. His base mode in GT is DEFFINENTLY at SSJ3 power tier💯👍

    • @alishabazz7431
      @alishabazz7431 9 місяців тому +1

      Dub error. It 5 years after Z and 15 years from when kid buu was defeated

  • @yungblade7
    @yungblade7 3 роки тому +10

    I appreciate Gt more after I watched super, it's my favorite db series.

    • @johnymustacio
      @johnymustacio Рік тому +1

      e too, but its still nothing to dragon ball and dbza.

  • @pdx_hp1458
    @pdx_hp1458 3 роки тому +3

    Xeno goku >rimuru right 😂

  • @packrunnakash
    @packrunnakash 3 роки тому +7

    This is some very good editing ngl

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому

      Thx man❤️

    • @packrunnakash
      @packrunnakash 3 роки тому +2

      @@_KAZI I finished the video and I enjoyed it a lot and I subbed can’t wait for the next parts

  • @II_worm_II
    @II_worm_II 3 роки тому +2

    Loved the video bro but if I have to leave some construction criticism cause I want to see u get better is work on not hesitating between some words as much or I noticed You tend to say “and” or “an” quite a bit most likely unconsciously. It’s not annoying but is noticeable if you cut those out you will blow up bro much love 👍

  • @ojpickle5923
    @ojpickle5923 3 роки тому +7

    Great power scale, but filler isn't really Canon. Just like the bojack movie, Akira had nothing to do with it so it is seperate from his work.
    We also know that GT is not an extension of filler because we never see filler characters like Pikkon and not only are they never shown but they are never even referenced.
    (Cell and Frieza like to talk trash so the fact they never brought up that Goku doesn't have Pikkon to help him unlike last time just further shows that GT is not connected to the DBZ filler)

    • @mappingmapping95
      @mappingmapping95 3 роки тому +6

      The entire baby saga was based off of tuffle filler flashback from z+dragonfist.Even then it's not wrong to include it in gt due to being a direct sequel of 90s z

    • @masterfox6832
      @masterfox6832 2 роки тому

      gt might be canon but a different timeline from super

  • @tht1blackguy209
    @tht1blackguy209 3 роки тому +5

    Boohan isn't the strongest boo. Kid buu can be scaled above boohan. 6:30
    Other than that the videos accurate
    I've since then changed my opinion on this I now believe Boohan as the strongest Buu and this video decently well super definitely slamms GT tho
    300th sub

    • @mardraa08
      @mardraa08 3 роки тому +1

      Buuhan is much stronger than Kid Buu since Buuhan not only has Kid Buu inside of him, but Ultimate Gohan.

    • @tht1blackguy209
      @tht1blackguy209 3 роки тому +1

      @@mardraa08 Gohan inside Buu doesn't matter because Goku is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. And Goku can be even scaled to even if not a lil below Buu han. Kid Buu slaps Buu han

    • @neenann9431
      @neenann9431 3 роки тому +2

      @@mardraa08 the anime has statements that confirm kid buu >> buuhan

    • @BasedKuuTooGourmet
      @BasedKuuTooGourmet 3 роки тому

      @@mardraa08 kid Buu is stronger

    • @mardraa08
      @mardraa08 3 роки тому +1

      @@BasedKuuTooGourmet no

  • @dbzonic1
    @dbzonic1 3 роки тому +2

    Good scaling

  • @athiestscott8018
    @athiestscott8018 5 місяців тому

    Several mistakes with your videos. Goku just metions buu. Its more likely he is referring to kid buu. Not buhan. That put goku at kid buu in base level if not a little higher. Also supersaiyan is at least 500 times base. That 50 statement was for goku on namek. The initial transformation. Not the later forms. Probably more than 500 though for mastered. But 500 lowballing. The 100 times statement doesnt matter. They can trasform and still be holding back.

  • @fatefulbrawl5838
    @fatefulbrawl5838 2 роки тому +3

    Nice insertion of the anime into the scaling discussions, really brings them into better prescriptive!

  • @SpectreStatus
    @SpectreStatus 2 роки тому +2

    You have a point when you say it wouldn't make sense that Goku was speaking about Kid Buu when comparing Rilldo's power, because why would that worry him. He was already at that level in his base form 5 years prior, so he must've been talking about Buuhan; it's the only thing that makes any sense.

    • @johnymustacio
      @johnymustacio Рік тому

      well, the guy who created dragon ball is well know for forgeting things, including characters... so no, not really.

    • @TheConstellationofOnewhostares
      @TheConstellationofOnewhostares Рік тому

      @@johnymustacio and well the guy who created dragon ball had little to no involvements in the creation of GT

  • @rrose9161
    @rrose9161 2 роки тому +1

    End of Z goku is at least as strong as buu saga ssj2 goku if not ssj3

  • @alishabazz7431
    @alishabazz7431 9 місяців тому

    Uub was said by Goku to have the power of Buu as far as raw strength. He was talking about Kid Buu because he’s reincarnated. Goku in base hadn’t even gotten too serious and was able to get an edge over Uub but said uub needs to learn how to use his power correctly. But in raw strength uub was equal to kid Buu. So that means Goku is definitely stronger than his SS3 counterpart from the Buu saga in base when he first fought Uub at the tournament.

  • @oscaraguilar6980
    @oscaraguilar6980 3 роки тому +3

    5:14, wouldn’t base Goku rildo arc = SSJ Goku Luud arc? Not 50x? His base got 50x stronger, not 2500x. Not sure where you came up with that 2nd 50x

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +2

      No because his base beat an opponent that his previous ssj couldn’t beat

    • @oscaraguilar6980
      @oscaraguilar6980 3 роки тому +1

      @@_KAZI oh that makes sense, but then why a 2nd 50x? Just an estimate?

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +3

      So think about it. Goku gets a x50 boost when he goes ssj. Now later his base form defeats an opponent stronger than his ssj. That means from his old base form to his new base form. He gets 2,500 times stronger. Since 50 x 50 = 2,500. U get it?

    • @oscaraguilar6980
      @oscaraguilar6980 3 роки тому +3

      @@_KAZI ah I see what you mean. Now I get it. Thanks for the explanation man

    • @xooox_1777
      @xooox_1777 2 роки тому +1

      @@_KAZI don't get it, doesn't that just mean that his base now is 50x stronger than before because he defeated an opponent that he couldn't beat when he was a SSJ

  • @ΜαγδαληνήΑποστολοπουλου

    Okay we got to respect that even if he is a small UA-camr he does better than big UA-camrs at least in dragon Ball because the other UA-camrs

  • @tonygaming2213
    @tonygaming2213 3 роки тому +2

    More vids

  • @ΆγγελοςΜαδεμλής
    @ΆγγελοςΜαδεμλής 3 роки тому +2

    Xeno goku ssj5

  • @TheeMangaReader
    @TheeMangaReader 8 місяців тому +2

    from jay to Kazi

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  8 місяців тому +2

      You gotta get outta here dawg😭 these videos are NOT it😭🙏

    • @TheeMangaReader
      @TheeMangaReader 8 місяців тому +1

      @@_KAZI I'm sorry Kazi, I'm doing some digging

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  8 місяців тому +1

      @@TheeMangaReader all good dawg i’m playin w u😭

  • @yggdrasile9684
    @yggdrasile9684 3 роки тому +2

    Why you have only 291 followers you deserve way more

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you bro🙏

  • @ctv186
    @ctv186 3 місяці тому

    So how powerful is Tide Pod Goku?

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 Рік тому +1

    This is amazing

  • @drxpgodxx487
    @drxpgodxx487 3 роки тому +1

    Can you scale vegeta

  • @Doctor_Mobius
    @Doctor_Mobius Рік тому

    I’d argue Goku is even stronger since grade 3 SS1 is a 10x multiplier on previous grades. Goku is probably using Perfected Super Saiyan(grade 4) which is stated to be the most powerful grade of SS1, so the multiplier would be a minimum of 500x, without any given statements on multipliers for any of the other grades before reaching SS2.

  • @kaleidoscopeeeee
    @kaleidoscopeeeee Рік тому

    Base GT Goku stomps.

  • @jessiahlol6101
    @jessiahlol6101 3 роки тому +1

    Fire

  • @not._lito1412
    @not._lito1412 3 роки тому +2

    When’s the next vid?!?

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому

      In a little. I’ve been busy on TikTok 😅

    • @drxpgodxx487
      @drxpgodxx487 3 роки тому

      @@_KAZI do a vegeta and trunks scale

  • @jessiahlol6101
    @jessiahlol6101 3 роки тому +1

    Fire

  • @ΆγγελοςΜαδεμλής
    @ΆγγελοςΜαδεμλής 3 роки тому +1

    Can you comment on this puestion?Is MUI goku stronger than xeno hoku ssj 5?Mmmmmm?

  • @Bacon6447
    @Bacon6447 Рік тому

    Music?

  • @Simplystimulating
    @Simplystimulating 2 місяці тому

    Yuh

  • @YousifAlh
    @YousifAlh 2 роки тому

    Adult goku end of gt base power and Ssj4 ultra instinct kaioken times 20 and spirit bomb absorbed. How strong is that?

  • @_mxms
    @_mxms Рік тому

    I’d like to clarify at the beginning. Ssj3 is a 400x boost. Goku training non stop for 10 whole ass years will definitely be WELL over 400x stronger than he used to be

  • @_yaboi_O1
    @_yaboi_O1 2 роки тому +1

    When Goku got wished into a kid he was nerfed for being in a kid body. Idk if when he goes Ssj4 if that completely undoes his kid body nerf.

    • @hosayjosay
      @hosayjosay Рік тому

      he didnt get nerfed at all

    • @johnymustacio
      @johnymustacio Рік тому +1

      @@hosayjosay he did

    • @Tissuestrash
      @Tissuestrash Рік тому

      @@johnymustacio only his stamina did not his attack potency

    • @khulmach9662
      @khulmach9662 8 місяців тому

      @@Tissuestrash ki control nerf as well

  • @brienYT
    @brienYT 3 роки тому +1

    When is part 2?

  • @amvking5620
    @amvking5620 3 роки тому +1

    It’s me VEGETAA

  • @madjackgamingandfitness498
    @madjackgamingandfitness498 Рік тому

    I will say DBZ did some filler right. Actual interesting fights that tie into the story

  • @rrose9161
    @rrose9161 2 роки тому

    Sorry got a little emotional let's talk about this in the comments section below

  • @theodorewhitmore6104
    @theodorewhitmore6104 Рік тому

    This is good my only problem is you have buuhan as the strongest when merus debunk him being the strongest.

  • @vincentgreen9083
    @vincentgreen9083 3 роки тому

    When will your next upload be for the continue of this video explanation.

  • @mystic3790
    @mystic3790 3 роки тому +1

    We need more on the channel

  • @zm_0407
    @zm_0407 3 роки тому

    Normally i dislike power scale videos but you..

  • @GjstruAim4997
    @GjstruAim4997 2 роки тому

    So where do u scale ssj4 gt goku,boundless?

  • @ethanhoyte5887
    @ethanhoyte5887 Рік тому +1

    It's crazy ppl do t mention how gokus power got cut in half when he got turned to a child

  • @nullafongot6201
    @nullafongot6201 Рік тому

    so do you think super is cannon to kai

  • @javi-qq7ml
    @javi-qq7ml 3 роки тому

    Yo I’m here from tiktok this is such a good video big props man

  • @xodiac-gg7049
    @xodiac-gg7049 3 роки тому

    Here from tiktok and subbed. Great video

  • @joshuaperez7912
    @joshuaperez7912 3 роки тому +1

    Love it

  • @ΆγγελοςΜαδεμλής
    @ΆγγελοςΜαδεμλής 3 роки тому +1

    But how can be 2 goku.l mean the goku and the xeno goku?

  • @cgon1454
    @cgon1454 3 роки тому +1

    Wassup bro!!!

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому

      Wassup!!

  • @Biscwutitsutos
    @Biscwutitsutos 3 роки тому

    saw this on tiktok, great vid!

  • @pdx_hp1458
    @pdx_hp1458 3 роки тому

    Can u do a video of xeno > rimuru

  • @mardraa08
    @mardraa08 3 роки тому

    What's the song from your TikTok called? "Why GT Goku is Multiversal"

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому

      Nf type beat

    • @mardraa08
      @mardraa08 3 роки тому

      @@_KAZI thanks man

  • @funtyler6306
    @funtyler6306 3 роки тому

    I got you on tik tok

  • @Zion5G
    @Zion5G 3 роки тому

    Yo

  • @mr.brandonbusyhorrifyingpa6571
    @mr.brandonbusyhorrifyingpa6571 3 роки тому

    Dragon ball GT

  • @S0.Ahnaf_
    @S0.Ahnaf_ 2 роки тому

    Max rivera copy u

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  2 роки тому +1

      Ya ik 😕

  • @nullafongot6201
    @nullafongot6201 2 роки тому

    I agree

  • @brandonghant426
    @brandonghant426 3 роки тому

    Song?

  • @m.shogun5845
    @m.shogun5845 3 роки тому

    Here from IG

  • @Plutonian-t5f
    @Plutonian-t5f 2 роки тому +1

    I don't think goku was referring to buuhan its obvious that's he talking about kid buu because that's the only big fight that had against goku

  • @mobileman8735
    @mobileman8735 3 роки тому

    Who wins in a fight gogeta or vegito

  • @kevinbaluja3872
    @kevinbaluja3872 3 роки тому

    @SethTheProgrammer debunk???

  • @nullafongot6201
    @nullafongot6201 2 роки тому

    In the dbz anime buuhan is weaker than kid buu that's a fact and it's stated.

  • @zachmaniac649
    @zachmaniac649 2 роки тому +1

    Kid buu is stronger than buuhan?

    • @omniexistus
      @omniexistus 2 роки тому +1

      No. But Kid Buu is more dangerous as he's quite willing to blow the Earth and other planets up just to win. Actually, he did blow it up as I recall...something all other Dragonball Z villains never accomplished.

  • @hughjazz8655
    @hughjazz8655 2 роки тому +1

    Kid buu is stronger than gohan tho

  • @terrillwilliams1515
    @terrillwilliams1515 2 роки тому +1

    *DEBUNK*
    Oob & Goku being the same power as SS3 Goku means Goku in 10 years got 400× stronger. They train together for 5 years. Togetherness gives you more results. Especially when they can dish out the same intensity. This means Goku & Oob should have gotten 400× stronger.
    Goku > 400× SS3 Goku
    Goku lost to Cardinal Mutchi Mutchi. Then was stated Hakaishin Lood II could take him. This makes Lood II & III way above SS Goku. At least twice as strong. You forgot this part of the scaling bud.
    Lood > 40,000×SS3 Goku
    The Sigma Force was equal to big baby biomachine God but that was suppressed. The gut punched Goku then stated his power was short by over a 100× compared to theirs. They later combine making them in total at least 300× stronger than Hakaishin Lood III.
    Mega Sigma "Canon" > 1,200,000×SS3 Goku.
    Rildo is massively above them. 10× is confirmed to be massive difference so 2 times is okay to claim here as the difference. Pan easily slammed him. Then got tanked by Rildo.
    Rildo > 4,800,000×SS3 Goku
    We know Trunks in base & Goten too is greater than Rildo so the scale will cut here since the Babys is what is needed to progress with the scaling and that is in your next video.

    • @mappingmapping95
      @mappingmapping95 2 роки тому +1

      He lowball for simplicity

    • @fuckthisstupidasshandleshit
      @fuckthisstupidasshandleshit Рік тому

      1. We have no idea what Goku did between the 10 year timeskip, if it was just training by himself, or some weird stronger training. Thus, it's impossible to scale it to his Uub training.
      2. Feats > Statements. Luud Level 2 is overpowered by SSJ Goku, and Goku only uses SSJ once in the fight.
      Luud Lv. III < SSJ Goku < Luud Lv. II
      3. Two times is confirmed to be enough to tank attacks. That in itself is massive.
      4. 2 times 1.2 Million = 2.4 Million, not 4.8 Million.

    • @terrillwilliams1515
      @terrillwilliams1515 Рік тому +1

      @@mappingmapping95 this is a lowball. He just skips hella scaling.

    • @terrillwilliams1515
      @terrillwilliams1515 Рік тому +1

      @@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit all he does is train. What's reflected in GT is just higher strength. So it's just basic training here. Training with someone like we have seen yields greater results than alone so yes we can scale it to be the same boost.
      He only pushed him up by the foot with Trunks. Lood II took no significant damage nor impact. Even Doltaki judged Super Saiyan Goku who took on The Cardinal and lost was judged to have less power than Lood II.
      I said the 2 times was enough to show power difference not defensive difference since Rildo is massively above what we've seen before. Then Pan blows him twice then he powers up to tank that thus at least 4× greater than the last calced on the scale.

    • @mappingmapping95
      @mappingmapping95 Рік тому

      @@terrillwilliams1515 it took you 1 year to respond

  • @3750gustavo
    @3750gustavo 2 роки тому

    I accept everything you said , would just put goku alot weaker when turned kid , someting like 1000x weaker , howerver as he start to learn better how to control his small body and gain a tail would reach up to 5 times more base power , the rest of powerup he gain would come from a really big multiplier for the ssj4

    • @hosayjosay
      @hosayjosay Рік тому

      you made all of that up

    • @EternalFlameOfGod
      @EternalFlameOfGod 7 місяців тому

      Goku literally states to Vegeta he never lost power just stamina

  • @meghulsreejith366
    @meghulsreejith366 3 роки тому

    I love all dbz. But super power level scaling is really bad. Since goku and vegeta r really strong creators made evegryone stronger. Goku and vegetas strength has reason coz they got god ki.
    If gohan can be trillions in base in super then it is also possible in gt coz they r the same. Gt deserve more.

  • @ShonenGoon
    @ShonenGoon 3 роки тому

    This is a little off considering super saiyan grade 1 was 50x and everyone uses grade 4 since the cell arc. Uub outclasses buu after training they arent even close to equal.
    And base goku is stronger than vegito i dont think that base vegito and base goku are equal at all

  • @kibbi500
    @kibbi500 2 роки тому

    So I would say kid buu not Buuhan becuz he mostly fought kid buu. His main battle was with kid buu.

  • @Mafia_3000
    @Mafia_3000 3 роки тому

    Ssj4 is my favorite form
    And uub is probably in my top 3
    And buuhan being another one probably in top 5

  • @yorichi402
    @yorichi402 2 роки тому

    if yall want better power scaling go to sayian schoolar

  • @saucefather2186
    @saucefather2186 3 роки тому

    Isn’t uub at the start of gt 100x stronger than buu

  • @BooperXI
    @BooperXI 2 роки тому

    Why are you ignoring the fact that goku becomes a kid

    • @extremelegendsupreme4596
      @extremelegendsupreme4596 2 роки тому +1

      Because he didn’t get weaker as a kid.it’s stated that the only thing goku lost was instant transmission and stamina.it was never stated he got weaker.

  • @atlas2661
    @atlas2661 3 роки тому

    what do you think of Buu beating Moro at the beginning of the arc? does that make him stronger than Kid Buu?

    • @gabrielchastain6091
      @gabrielchastain6091 3 роки тому +1

      mr.buu in dbs had trained previously for the TOP then didnt go and also had the grand kai to help him out
      also if i recall at that point moro wasnt on blue level yet he was still weak or maybe im just remembering it wrong hard to remember

  • @tatendamuwori7098
    @tatendamuwori7098 2 роки тому

    Not Canon so irrelevant 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @offsinger89
    @offsinger89 2 роки тому

    Let me say one thing gt isn't cannon

  • @rrose9161
    @rrose9161 2 роки тому

    If goku doesn't use the training regime that I concocted then there is no way in HIFL that he became 400 times stronger in 10 years there is no evidence of this in dbz being the case.

    • @hosayjosay
      @hosayjosay Рік тому +2

      i mean the fact hes going against uub in base, who was stated to be as strong as kid buu, then yes. base goku at the end of z can be compared to ssj3 goku in the buu arc. regardless if how he got so strong makes sense or not, at the end of the day he did

    • @rrose9161
      @rrose9161 Рік тому +1

      @@hosayjosay their is no concrete proof that pure buu and thus uub being equal to a full power super saiyan three goku but their is sufficient evidence for them to be roughly equal to ssj2 vegeta/ goku and 11 year old enraged ssj 2 gohan vs super perfect cell and even dabura ( besides I find that it makes more sense for goku to become 100x stronger in a decade )

  • @DBZKINGDOMHAKAI
    @DBZKINGDOMHAKAI 3 роки тому

    Bulshit scaling then ssinf trunks is stronger then ssj3 goku from buu saga 🤣🤣

    • @dabotbruh2555
      @dabotbruh2555 3 роки тому +6

      Weak gt characters clap all of z

    • @vantirobin9885
      @vantirobin9885 2 роки тому +1

      @@dabotbruh2555 it's true eoz solos frieza

    • @xooox_1777
      @xooox_1777 2 роки тому +1

      It just means that everyone that scales to the crew is now stronger than End Game Z Characters, i mean the dbgt world progressively get stronger and stronger

  • @tristanboss7319
    @tristanboss7319 2 роки тому

    One problem, in perfect files, it's stated lord luub>all other machine warriors with the possible exception of baby. So he's stronger than rildo and the sigma force. Goku's statement doesn't make them stronger than luub. Sigma force

    • @extremelegendsupreme4596
      @extremelegendsupreme4596 2 роки тому +1

      Goku literally says that rildo has the highest ki he has sensed which would mean base rildo>>>>lord Luud.

    • @tristanboss7319
      @tristanboss7319 2 роки тому

      @@extremelegendsupreme4596 He said he hadn't felt ki like this in a while. Not that it's the strongest he felt. He only said that in regards to Baby vegeta after his power-up. Luub is simply stronger than all the other machine mutants(except baby), period. Goku in his ss3 during Gt was the strongest being in the universe after ultimate shenron until baby took over vegeta's body. Part of the reason they made him a kid was to nerf him as he would've blown through the early conflicts otherwise.

    • @extremelegendsupreme4596
      @extremelegendsupreme4596 2 роки тому +1

      @@tristanboss7319 dude goku says to rildo “this ki is doesn’t even compare to the guys we’ve had up to now” goku even tells rildo that “to think that anyone in the universe is stronger than you”.so goku is basically saying that base rildo was his toughest opponent yet.goku even said that rildo>>all buus which he didn’t say for lord luud.btw goku wasn’t weakened by becoming a kid he only lost stamina and instant transmission as stated in the perfect files.

  • @MrGoko801
    @MrGoko801 3 роки тому

    You got the luud scaling wrong which means everything after that is wrong. So you’re saying goku needed ssj to defeat luud but reverted back to base and stayed in base the whole fight even as luud went to level 3? What sense does that make also the narrator himself said luud was inferior to ssj goku a convenient line you left out but go off king

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +3

      I’m saying base goku couldn’t beat luud by himself. He needed help. Also he turned ssj with trunks to overpower luud. However lord luud tanked multiple attacks from goku in base form

    • @MrGoko801
      @MrGoko801 3 роки тому

      @@_KAZI Your exact words were luud is stronger than ssj goku. You’re pretty much saying goku stayed in base for an opponent that was above his ssj power and never transformed? You also didn’t mention they were kicking him around multiple times in base and also Base trunks took a point blank attack from level 3 luud and was just fine? So why didn’t he turn ssj, why did trunks survive an attack more than 50xs stronger than him and why did the narrator say luud was weaker than ssj goku and trunks?

    • @_KAZI
      @_KAZI  3 роки тому +4

      @@MrGoko801 More evidence that lord luud is stronger than ssj goku is because cardinal Mutchy mutchy is relevant to ssj goku. If you watch their fight. And lord luud was stated to be much stronger than the cardinal.

    • @MrGoko801
      @MrGoko801 3 роки тому

      @@_KAZI are you seriously using the guy who got destroyed by a ki blast from base Trunks? Are you saying base trunks is stronger than ssj goku? If you pay attention to the luud arc everytime someone turns ssj it’s to get a heavy object off them or get out of a tight spot then they immediately turn back to base. Plus you still haven’t answered the question why if this opponent was stronger than his ssj form that goku remained in base the entire fight? How did trunks survive a point blank blast from lord level 3? Why did the narrator himself say luud was weaker than ssj goku and trunks? You’re trying to find new ways of defending your argument instead of answering the question at hand

    • @fuckthisstupidasshandleshit
      @fuckthisstupidasshandleshit Рік тому

      @@MrGoko801It's literally stated in the show that Luud can't manifest his power right.
      His Ki is great, but he can't do anything with it. Also, If Mutchy is weaker than Base Trunks, how is he on par with SSJ Goku?

  • @kingofkings9391
    @kingofkings9391 3 роки тому

    Don't use multipliers because it ain't cannon and it contradicts itself multiple times

  • @GKGames2018
    @GKGames2018 Рік тому

    base form vegetto is said in gt perfect files to be as strong or stronger than ssj4 goku