EVERY one of knows that when God commented on how good is creation was, it was because there was no confusion or chaos in it at all In fact, if you look in the New Testament, Paul said that sin entered the world through one man, namely, Adam Not exactly, complementing the stupid gap theory, which, by the way is never mentioned by any writer in the Bible
Great presentation, but I still believe in an old earth. There is too much in the young earth theory that is illogical nonsense and leads directly into believing in a flat earth.
My thoughts on death before Adam is death is A angelic being Just like Lucifer in revelation there are angels bound up in Lucifer is bound up for 1000 years and then comes back into the world
Oh my gosh not the Plymouth Brethren! Where is Faith in God? Seems that scientific theory is enough to detail the faith of many. Will He find faith on the rarth when He returns?
I first heard about the gap theory when I was a child and my father was in seminary. One of the professors apparently brought this up or taught this - not sure which, because I was little - but I remember my dad talking about it a handful of times. I thought about it briefly over the years, but only in the last two years or so have I started doing any in depth study on this. There is some great content out there that covers this and then you have some content that is just not in line at all with scripture. And one does not need to believe in evolution on order for this theory to be proven. You can still believe the earth is young. We have to use discernment and ask God for guidance in these things, because it is so easy fall into the trap of false doctrine. We don't know if the fall of Satan happened outside of time, or if time had "begun" already. Satan was indeed already fallen by the time he was seen in the scripture in the garden tempting Eve. Up until this point everything was fine. Everything was perfect. Adam and Eve had not sinned yet. We do not see or read about every detail of every person or society in the Bible. The Bible would be much longer if we had every single detail of every single person's life throughout. We get what is pertinent for our knowledge, wisdom, and salvation. We don't even have details about Jesus' childhood, but we do know that He went through all the same growing stages as any other child would. We go from Him being a baby/toddler to Him being 12 years old, and telling Mary and Joseph that He was about His Father's business. The scripture skips a significant amount of time that would encompass His childhood. We do not have the details of every day of His life between being a baby to His 12th year. Faith says we don't need that in order to believe He existed as a child and that He still exists today. Why then would scripture give every single detail of Satan's fall and exactly when that took place? We do have scriptures throughout the Bible though that support the gap theory and give us some insight to what took place.
Ezekiel 28:15 Context 12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13Thou hast been in EDEN😢 the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
There is not one scripture that supports the gap theory that’s why it’s called a theory. There is not one Bible writer that talks about this gap. The gap theory is all presuppositions.
DEATH before SIN ?? We know that Satan was in Eden with Adam and Eve before either of them had sinned. Satan was already a fallen angel at that time. Satan had already sinned, yet his sin had not corrupted the world God had made for Adam. Satan was in Adam’s world and yet, the world was perfect up until Adam sinned. There was no death or destruction in Adam’s world until Adam sinned. However, remember what our Lord said about Satan. John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Jesus told us that Satan was a murderer from the beginning. Someone died! When was that beginning? Was it the period in which God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)? Was it at the beginning of the six days of God’s almighty acts of forming the earth? Either way, there was death before the sin of Adam. Jesus said it was "from the beginning." It just was not death of humanity who inherited death because of Adam’s sin.
EVERY one of knows that when God commented on how good is creation was, it was because there was no confusion or chaos in it at all
In fact, if you look in the New Testament, Paul said that sin entered the world through one man, namely, Adam
Not exactly, complementing the stupid gap theory, which, by the way is never mentioned by any writer in the Bible
Great presentation, but I still believe in an old earth. There is too much in the young earth theory that is illogical nonsense and leads directly into believing in a flat earth.
My thoughts on death before Adam is death is A angelic being Just like Lucifer in revelation there are angels bound up in Lucifer is bound up for 1000 years and then comes back into the world
Satan is bound from deceiving the elect for 2000 years from the 2 chapter in acts till Christ returns.
Oh my gosh not the Plymouth Brethren! Where is Faith in God? Seems that scientific theory is enough to detail the faith of many.
Will He find faith on the rarth when He returns?
The Bible says only a few will find the narrow way. Only few will find truth. The tribulation way is opposite of the worlds way.
I first heard about the gap theory when I was a child and my father was in seminary. One of the professors apparently brought this up or taught this - not sure which, because I was little - but I remember my dad talking about it a handful of times. I thought about it briefly over the years, but only in the last two years or so have I started doing any in depth study on this.
There is some great content out there that covers this and then you have some content that is just not in line at all with scripture. And one does not need to believe in evolution on order for this theory to be proven. You can still believe the earth is young. We have to use discernment and ask God for guidance in these things, because it is so easy fall into the trap of false doctrine.
We don't know if the fall of Satan happened outside of time, or if time had "begun" already.
Satan was indeed already fallen by the time he was seen in the scripture in the garden tempting Eve. Up until this point everything was fine. Everything was perfect. Adam and Eve had not sinned yet.
We do not see or read about every detail of every person or society in the Bible. The Bible would be much longer if we had every single detail of every single person's life throughout. We get what is pertinent for our knowledge, wisdom, and salvation.
We don't even have details about Jesus' childhood, but we do know that He went through all the same growing stages as any other child would. We go from Him being a baby/toddler to Him being 12 years old, and telling Mary and Joseph that He was about His Father's business. The scripture skips a significant amount of time that would encompass His childhood. We do not have the details of every day of His life between being a baby to His 12th year. Faith says we don't need that in order to believe He existed as a child and that He still exists today.
Why then would scripture give every single detail of Satan's fall and exactly when that took place? We do have scriptures throughout the Bible though that support the gap theory and give us some insight to what took place.
The Bible is very clear that Satan was in the garden of Eden before iniquity was found in him so please remove your pre-suppositions.
Ezekiel 28:15 Context
12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13Thou hast been in EDEN😢 the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
There is not one scripture that supports the gap theory that’s why it’s called a theory. There is not one Bible writer that talks about this gap. The gap theory is all presuppositions.
Very interesting study. Well researched and presented. Followed.
DEATH before SIN ?? We know that Satan was in Eden with Adam and Eve before either of them had sinned. Satan was already a fallen angel at that time. Satan had already sinned, yet his sin had not corrupted the world God had made for Adam. Satan was in Adam’s world and yet, the world was perfect up until Adam sinned. There was no death or destruction in Adam’s world until Adam sinned. However, remember what our Lord said about Satan.
John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Jesus told us that Satan was a murderer from the beginning. Someone died! When was that beginning? Was it the period in which God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)? Was it at the beginning of the six days of God’s almighty acts of forming the earth? Either way, there was death before the sin of Adam. Jesus said it was "from the beginning." It just was not death of humanity who inherited death because of Adam’s sin.