Perfumery Basics: Material Dilutions for Accurate Dosing
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- In this video I explain how and why one would want to pre-dilute their perfumery materials when using them for experimental blends. Taming odor strength and application accuracy is done with pre-diluting your materials. I also touch upon a few ingredients that you may want to pre-dilute before using and to how much is a typical dilution for use.
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Material dilution is really a key which save lots of materials and can show the real idea and the identity of the compounds and fragrances
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Would be cool to have a video where you film yourself doing a dilution. I think i have the jist of how it is done but would always be nice to have a video, for example, showing how a 30ml 1% dilution can be made.
If you want 30mL total, you would have 29.7mL solvent (DPG, TEC, PA) and 0.3mL of Fragrance
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Hi. Love the information you put out. If I'm making solid cologne that does not include any alcohol or other solvent, can I dilute using a carrier oil like jojoba? Are there alternatives for materials that are not soluble in oil?
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Thank you so much for sharing here… I have a question. I am JUST starting and I am not rich so I would like to dilute all of my aroma chemicals to stretch them out, if I can do that, should everything be at 10% and aldehydes and real strong items at 1%
Also if I use glass pipettes do you soak them to clean in regular alcohol or perfumer alcohol?
How to Duliute think materials for example orris absolute?
And do you recommend any book, video that explains different formula of dilution and talks about perfumes in general ?
Thank you
@BKScents it's ok to buy all the format 2mg and than to dilute manually? Or for some chemicals aroma 2 mg raw it's a little bit anyway? (a parte iso, hedione, galax etc etc that clearly I buy more)
great Channel. just starting out. Is there any pros or cons to diluting with alcohol vs DPG, or is it all personal preference. lastly are your dilutions with 200 profs as well?
Thanks again I'm making my fragrance purchase with your How to get started recommendations.
Hi BK Scent,
What about diluting everything up to 20%. I wont make anything stronger anyway. And if I want EDT i can just add alcohol. What do you think?
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Hi love your videos am someone who is just about start making my own fragrance so I have a question. When diluting the fragrance oil do you use perfumer alcohol or you can use any alcohol?
I use SDA-40B (200 proof) ethyl alcohol for most of my diluting needs.
Given that the IFRA guidelines seem to be given at the "fragrance concentrate" level (which I assume means our formula not the end product perfume), changing 1 material could mean you now exceed the max on another. Decreasing sandalwood could mean that your oakmoss now exceeds 0.1% in your formula.
They probably count the overall perfume including alcohol etc
what is the best percentage of essential oil to dilute with alcohol for making perfume ? Thanx
Is it OK if I have 15 drops of essential oil to 10 mL of carrier oil? I usually put my drops in an empty 10 mL bottle and then I’ll top it off right before the neck of the top of the bottle.
If I were to make a biger batch of a fragrance, instead of using dilution, would you recommend to switch to neat products so it is of better “quality” ?
Do you have a video made showing how to properly dilute things like galaxolide & exaltolide? Or how to dilute in general?
I have a few videos talking about diluting materials, yes. But each material will need its own different dilution ratio based on its performance strength and how odorous it is. Every material is different...some will requite minimal dilution, some will require it diluted down to 10%, and some super strong monster materials need to go down to 1% or even 0.1%. It really depends on the material in question, and ya just have to play with them a bit to determine how low it needs to go based on how you dose it.
Thanks for the great video! I'm coming from a chemistry background, so I'm inclined to weigh solids and dose liquids by volume with a micropipette, is there a methodological reason to favor dosing liquids by weight for perfumery?
YES! weight to volume measuring for perfumes is an older way of compounding. Jacques Guerlain weight his solid materials; he would use volume measurements for the liquid materials.
@@kevinverspoor4796 Thanks Kevin!
I need to mix the diluted ingredients into candle wax. wouldn't alcohol be a bad choice for dilution?
Love your content. Can you make a video on how to stick to IFRA/restrictions when formulating a perfume? Do you formulate freely first, or do you set parameters going in?
The most pervasive smells I’ve found so far are coconut, and clove oil. I’m going to dilute those massively or they just take over everything.
clove oil (euginol) is pretty strong indeed. I keep mine pre-diluted to 1% when I tinker with blends.
If you get a product that’s already diluted down, say
Vanillin crystals dissolved in a 10% (Mixture) in Propylene Glycol, do you still dilute that product down to 10%? Or do you use as is?
You can use that as is, or further dilute it, but that would change the dilution %
Its seems when I mix my designer oils I get a dry mouth from the oil for some reason I'm just using perfumes alcohol...can u help?
I guess I will predilute everthing to 20% and see how it goes. 20% is kinda my aim concentration for all my perfumes.
Should we predilute ethylene brassylate, timberol, tonalide, mhc etc?
So on your last comment about being stuck at 10% dilution, would you then formulate to 20% dilution and if scaling back to say EDT you would dilute your 20% dilution further? Total newbie here so apologies for the maybe simple questions ;) Thanks again for your great content for DIY perfumers looking to learn.
It's best to keep your materials in 2 separate types of bottles. 1 bottle will be your "working/tinkering" usage...and that would be the bottle that's diluted down to like 10-20% for testing and trials. Then also keep the same material "neat/undiluted" in another bottle, this way if your trial batches are done and you are satisfied with the formula....you can recreate it again using the full strength materials and now you can make the finished bottle concentration (edt, edp,parfum,etc) to your liking because you are making it using full strength materials and you can add in your Perfumers alcohol ratio to what ever you wish
Super helpful info. Thank you 😊 @BK Scents!
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Thanks for clarifying this!
@@bkscents7050sorry if this a stupid question I’m trying my best to learn all this, ok so when you say recreate it at full strength right ? You mean at 100% no dilution of any kind ? Because I have seen videos where martial is added to the final bottle but, some of the martial is diluted, or if you can give me a quick example of how to recreate from dilution to full strength
Do you only use perfumer’s Alcohol for all dilutions? Which do you recommend?
For the most part, yes. I pretty much use just perfumers alcohol for dilutions. Sometimes i may use DPG...but thats VERY rare.
Hi, greetings, I'm from Indonesia. I really want to learn how to make a perfume from the beginning. I want to ask Can all types of ingredients that have been diluted directly into perfume? For example, if I dilute amber, can it be called amber oil once it is diluted and can I use it directly for perfume? Thank you before.. success always for you
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Do I need to dilute AC’s that already come in a liquid if they aren’t too strong?
That is entirely up to you. Some people don't dilute materials at all. This just means they have to work in much larger formulation batches to get accurate dosing of each material.
How to dilute 30% ..how many grams of material and alcohol do i use?
@BK Scents do you dilute your materials weight/volume or weight/weight again in your final perfume formula is it weight/weight or weight/volume?
its always done by weight...always
Is meetha itr / Biryani essence, water soluble?
For learning dilution of essential oil and aroma chemicals which site do you refer
TGSC (the good scents company) website has tons and tons of demo fragrance formulas, and thats the best starting point to see which/what materials are used often, and by how much...so you can get an idea or average use of specific materials....and then from there decide what dilution would work best for you based on those averages.
So every gram of alcohol you add after 50% the concentration of the oil goes down 10%?
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Could you please explain how can I make 50% solution of coumarin? If I add 5 grams of coumarin into 10 ml of alcohol ,is it right ?
Dont mix weight (grams) with Volume (ml). Do it all by weight. Take 5gm of coumarin and 5g of alcohol for a 50% dilution.
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Can you please tell me as to how do you dilute your orange, lemon, ginger, saffron, cinamon, sandalwood, wild rose oil. Please accept my apologies for asking a totally wierd question as I even need to know whether all these need to be diluted or not.
You really don't have to predilute anything if you don't want to. It just means your trial batch size (weight/volume) when you are experimenting will be much larger. And It really depends on the quality and type of material you have, if they are essential oils, absolutes or synthetics. But orange and lemon (EO) i would start with diluting to 20%, ginger EO i would take down to 5%, saffron and cinnamon probably 1%, sandalwood oil and rose oil down to 5% and tinker at those dilutions for easier dosing.
@@bkscents7050 @BK Scents yes these are essential oils. I have just starded this as a hobby and came across your channel. You are really helpful. Thanx alot.
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Do you recomend diluting powders? Like Ambrocenide crystals ect..
I do make dilutions of the powders for use of small batch trial blends. But I also keep them neat (in powder form) for large batch finished formulations
@@bkscents7050 thank you i appreciate it ..
COULD YOU NOT USE A NEEDLE INSTEAD OF A DROP ?
How would I dilute 1g of c12 mna to 5%?
1gr of raw material, and 19g of alcohol will give you a 5% dilution.
What do we dilute the raw materials with? Just perfumers alcohol?
I use ethyl alcohol or DPG. But it depends on what your end application is, either it be for alcoholic perfume spray, soaps, lotions, detergent, etc. If you are just focusing on on making perfumes....Ethyl alcohol or DPG is all you'll need.
Dpg? Dipropylene glycol I assume from what ive been seeing on the good scents company website? Do I but that from like creating perfumes as well or where should I buy the dpg from? Youve been super awesome responding to all my questions! I really appreciate it😎🤘
Can you use fractionated coconut oil to dilute the oils
You sure can. It all just depends on what your end medium is going to be (alcohol spray, candle, soap, lotion, etc) will dictate what dilution type you will use.
@@bkscents7050how about for soap or cream would that make sense to do so?
no1 seems to mention how to make crystals in dpg to 100% dilution do you know how to ?
I don't understand the question. Are you asking how to dilute something in DPG, but still have it be 100% strength? That's impossible
@@bkscents7050 but when you have things in liquid, it doesnt say that it is a dilution but you can buy stuff in crystals to, so how do you get the crystals to become liquid?
Sorry, dumb question.
10% dilution means
1 drop of material and 9 drop of alcohol?
Never measure by drops. Always use "weight" and use a quality scale that can measure down to 0.000 grams. So if you were making a small bottle of a 10% dilution of something....you would weight out 1gr of the raw material and then 9gr of your dilutant....and that would give you 10grams of a 10% solution
My first mistake like this was peppermint...FRESH.
Peppermint is strong! Like surprisingly potent
@@bkscents7050 yes it is. Lol
@@bkscents7050 and I actually just started my scent creating adventure very recently, and you've been a go-to for info, thank you.
Sir as a beginner I myself find it confusing to work with essential oils. Therefore, I am trying to hands on first with available perfume oils in market. For example, I bought 08 ml of a designer fragrance (Gucci Rush) oil that is 100% concentrated (as claimed by the seller). I want to make a 100 ml spray perfume with it. I am thinking to use 5% galaxolide, 5% Distilled water, 08 ml fragrance oil, 16 ml DPG (15 gms) and 66 ml Ethanol. Please advise if this formulation is correct? especially the fragrance oil and DPG dilution to ease the cost. Please help.
What is happening with your background?
Poor lighting conditions with my camera phone made it look like a 1960s acid trip, lol
It's so trippy lol
do not dillute iso e super or hedione ;)
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