THE STRANGE HISTORY OF AVRIL LAVIGNE
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
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What is the misunderstood genius of Avril Lavigne? What did she know that we didn't in 2002?
* Avril Lavigne's breakthrough with "Complicated" and "Sk8r boi"
* Is she an industry plant? Does she even write her own songs?
* Her influence on e-girl fashion and modern pop-punk
* Her collabs with Mod Sun, MGK, Travis Barker & Willow Smith ("Grow")
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0:00 Intro
2:38 "Sk8r Boi" & Avril's debut
6:30 Was the "punk" persona her idea?
8:53 Is Avril Lavigne an industry plant?
13:35 Avril Lavigne's legacy - Розваги
No matter what anyone thinks of Avril for me, as a guitar teacher, Avril was great in the 2000's. So many young students came to me wanting to learn her tunes. For a lot of my students Avril was the first music they ever played on guitar. To see a young kid walking out of the studio I teach out of feeling empowered because they can play the music they love, well... Nothing will ever beat that feeling, so it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks of her music. She inspired an entire generation. That's important, and I got to watch that happen in real time.
I was one of those girls. Nobody's Home was one of the first songs I learned how to play on the guitar. I also loved to play songs like Complicated, I'm With You, Naked, Things I'll Never Say, My Happy Ending... Oh, Runaway is so fun to play, those verse chords!
wow... that was great see this comment. I'm from Brazil and my first tune was the entire Let Go album hahaha. I asked for a teacher and it was a great time for both of us and I have never forget every song since then.
So I can say that Avril brought me to music. She is great, a little naeve, but really tallent.
Ah that feeling is so great! It's so awesome to watch people get so invested in the instrument and really make it their own. You know they will keep playing for years when they catch the bug!
@@akuma862005 it's why I'm still doing this, despite all the frustrations of the job and the hectic nature of being self-employed.
@@lincolnzeferino8287 🇧🇷 that's why I love her, she is unique. And I don't hate her, or her songs, I still play, sing along and learn the new ones, I remember when me and my kids first listen to her, after knowing all the songs she wrote for another singers, my respect to her just grown.
I stagehanded a small festival that Avril headlined in the early aughts. There were rumblings all day that she was super sick and going to cancel. When it was time for her set to start, she had to be carried to the side of the stage, puked in the trash can next to the stairs. Then she hauled herself up onto the stage and performed her guts out for an hour before saying goodnight, walking off stage, and basically collapsing. None of the middle schoolers that looked up to her and came out to see her would have had any idea.
Her music's still not my thing, but that's seriously bad ass and I've had total respect for her since then.
Super drunk*
I can respect that. I think almost any musician should be able to do that, I've done it a few times myself especially if it's paid work.
The fact that she made Hello Kitty as obnoxious as it is and still be a banger is mind blowing to me.
There aren't many people who can pull it off
There are some saying it's in their "songs to play when the homies aren't around" playlist.
Hello Kitty belongs in the "Songs to play when the homies ARE around" list, cuz the true homies are those who stay
I don't know how much credit she gets for "I'm with you," but it's a song I'm not embarrassed to admit I like. I just enjoy the sound and mood.
Yeah that's a great song. It's hard to believe she was so young when she recorded that.
@@Matt92Machine Makes you feel old, doesn't it?
Her best ballad to this day
@@JSCVideos I'm With You is great, but I think Remember When, Let Me Go and some songs from her Head Above Water album are even better.
She also wrote some great unreleased ballads, like her version for BreakAway (supposed to be featured in her first record), Won't Let You Go (from her 2007 album, written by her and Diane Warren), If I Said I Love You (from her self-titled album), Lights Out and Lucky Ones (2019).
IDK, she's so good at writing ballads.
I’m With You is a masterpiece
Weird how people called her fake punk cuz I don't remember Avril ever claiming she was a punk rocker.
Probably because she isn’t punk, Avril herself said that she hated being called punk because her music isn’t punk and yet we have all kinds of posers calling Avril punk
It’s more her fans, like even if this video Finn say she deserves apart of the pop punk Mt Rushmore. I don’t hate her music at all but it’s weird that so many people claim she’s pop punk when she really isn’t.
Well she did make use of a (skate) punk image with her attire etc. and Sk8ter Boi is a pop-punk song
It's her fanbase calling her Punk, not Avril
Never considered her punk.Guano Apes is like 10 times more punk and they doesn't even considered a punk band.
Her song "Innocence" is one of only a couple dozen songs that I've ever heard that have made me cry.
"Only a couple dozen." Only? I doubt most people have ever cried to one song, let alone two dozen from a dude.
@@retsamcm huh I guess I thought more people were like me or more emotional haha. And it’s not like this group of songs *always* makes me cry every single time I listen to them; sometimes it’ll just be a one time thing, where the song triggers an emotional response to something else already going on in my life, like a breakup or the death of a loved one.
IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL IT MAKES YOU WANNA CRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT MAKES YOU WANNA CRRYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!
@@andyspendlove1019 Ignore them, they just dislike avril lavigne
dude same. its a gem of a song
as a die-hard metal lover, I personally really love Avril music, she's a really talented musician, her songs like innocence, when you're gone, the best damn thing, my happy ending, don't tell me, complicated are a few of my jam songs by her beside extreme metal and hardcore punk
Losing grip?? Take me away? To me it was her first and 2nd album, the rest didnt click much
@@min1549
I stopped listening after her second album too. It was interesting though... Just the other day for Thanksgiving, my brother pulled out Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland because I’ve never seen it. The credits start rolling and after a few quick seconds of them he stopped playing the DVD. But it only took me those short few seconds to recognize that voice!
It took me about 30 seconds to put my finger precisely on her name. I have the personality type where I will stop everything and look something up if I think of a question that the internet can easily answer, to appease my curiosity, so as soon as I asked out loud “was that Avril Lavigne?” (and my brother had no clue because that was never his type of music), I looked it up and confirmed it. The song name was Alice, ofc.
Just from the little I heard, it sounded great! Definitely made me want to give it a listen in full - it sounded like a very full and mature song, with an orchestra and all, iirc. My brother was impressed that I nailed the artist’s name so fast - which he shouldn’t be surprised because I worked in the music industry for a while due to how passionate I was for music.
I remember working in it at the time Avril popped out of nowhere (she wasn’t on the label I was working for at the time), and seeing a young co-worker of mine begin wearing the ties all the time lol. She went full on poser with the punk-like outfits, and I say poser because she never listened to anything punk. It was a little cringe tbh.
She worked in the art department with me, and liked to design her own cards to give to others for their birthday, or to thank them or congratulate them etc... They were cute and thoughtful, but it was funny also because she began incorporating super similar graphics to what one would see in Avril’s branding and promotional artwork etc. You know, things like a skull and cross bones with a pink hair bow on the skull - stuff like that.
Yep, deathcore and metalcore lover here - and Avril Lavigne will always have a special place in my playlist. Take Me Away, My Happy Ending and Together - practically the second album remains a killer album to me.
Same here, man. TOTALLY not my style overal, but she has a few songs that are REALLY good.
I could not agree more. I'm a 64-year-old male metal-head who has been to a thousand metal concerts. Avril rocks. It's not even debatable. That is one talented woman. Her style of music may not be heavy metal, but her attitude sure is.
Losing grip was one of her best songs and it was a heavy opener for her first album
It was her favorite song on the album, she said it represented her and the band the most aside from more popular songs like ‘Complicated’.
the fact that she wrote all her songs was a proof of a genuine talent. and the thumbnail pic of her is so beautiful😍
She admitted to being given "poppy" songs that didnt feel like her. She was like "I can write"
Co-writer.
@@Queueddd she write her own song, also she produces too. U can check on her 4th album Goodbye Lullaby
I'm a metal head and love hardcore as well. But can appreciate what she was doing at the time and still doing now. Plus she's beautiful and sexy too haha, sorry just the truth. 😂
@@isoldyourdogtoachineserest1637 man, you gotta know that several artist don't actually write their own songs at all. Being able to write song is a sign of pure talent
I was “that skater boi” and just gotta say thanks Avril . Being shy was no longer a problem.
Avril, Paramore, Evanescence got me through high school and college so I really gave credit to all of these artist or bands for going through one of my toughest part of my life.
Love that this video gives Avril Lavigne all of the credit, props, and respect she deserves, especially as a young female artist who's had the courage and vision to do what she did at her age. Great video and spot on.
“Head above water” is a master piece and I might play this song at my wedding (our couples dance) a couple weeks from now because I have Lyme disease as well. I play this song whenever I need motivation to continue on with life...
Finn, I can feel how much you believe every word you say in this vid. I can tell you respect her hustle and how good it feels to be making that argument. Just wanna validate your approach (and fancy looking new camera set up) and say it's noticeable and cool. I have had the same experience in the country music world, watching artists that seemed like such gimmicks eventually gain the respect of the whole intelligentsia, self included, and prove that they did have a vision for their careers. That has definitely has gotten me to approach new acts with a more curious mind than I used to.
Thank you, means a lot coming from you!
Oh man! I love your channel bruh! The clap track video got me to sub
It brings a smile to my face to see content creators supporting each other. Finn might not do a lot of vids on country but what he has to say is applicable to the music industry across the board. So happy that other content creators that cover music also watch Finn's channel.
Apparently Billie Eillish idolises Avril.
Please collab in a punk and metal meets country *cof* social distortion *cof*
I love that I can come to your channel for SPAZZ content and also get a friendly take on AVRIL lAVIGNE and scene kids.
As a Canadian guy who grew up during the Avril & Bieber era’s, I can assure the rest of you she was a pop culture icon here for girls & teens and her songs dominated pop radio airwaves and Much Music… genuinely it was difficult to avoid her singles at school, on the bus, in restaurants, etc. she was everywhere.
Ahahhaha I remember that
Feels so bad to see Avril's name mentioned near Bieber
@@nikoloznasaridze6328 when you look at the list of the most successful Canadian musicians & artists, you’ll understand why that’s a financial accomplishment.
During my battle jacket punk teen years I used to stand up for Avril Lavigne if anyone talked shit. Her songs are so fun and catchy. People always thought I was bullshitting them and were perplexed that, nah, you can be a crusty, grindy punk and still have hella fun listening to a banger Avril song. Great video dude.
I had two separate friends from different schools who were super judgy abt her and my being an earnest fan. definitely just following a lame trend (sk8ter boi wasn't great, but I could listen to the rest of the album from beginning to end)
I'll double down on this. She's been incredible and I couldn't stand her for the longest time. 5 years ago I listened to Let Go and my mind was blown. I've listened to the discography and, ahem, it's full of more consistent bangers than Motley Crue
I agree. She is heavier than MC too.
Yeah same i recently started listening with my daughter and i was actually blown away. Her ratio of absolute hits per album is impressive.
Avril is classier than them as well...
@@henrydrummond5902 yeah she's the only pop star who didn't feel she had to be vulgar or dance like a stripper to sell records
@@Soldano999 And yet she’s so attractive at the same time. Avril Lavigne is equal parts a rocker chick, a cheerleader, a skater girl, and the girl next door. That’s every teenage boy’s dream.
As a woman that grew up in a very sexist religious atmosphere as a child, my dad allowing me to listen to Avril Lavigne when I was ten or eleven changed my entire world, and I felt comfortable being assertive because she was assertive and her music was assertive. Otherwise, and I honestly mean this, I may have turned out just like the rest of the environment I grew up in. She was the first “secular” artist I was given permission to listen to. And I am still one of her biggest fans today.
@@BobPaganPaganBobwhy the lol. Not everyone was free to explore or be exposed to the good shit or had access to it for that matter. Especially as a girl in a conservative setting, I imagine. Historically, most counter culture genres have been dominated by men for a reason - lots and lots of misogyny in society at the time. Thank fuck things have started to change a bit
Dude I swear, your videos are so holistic and looking-at-all-the-sites of something. It really is high quality content.
Since Mod sun watches this channel and he's dating Avril, there is a good chance that he's gonna show her this video
WHAAAAA?!?@?@?!?@? Mod Sun is really dating her, man🤨 idk just...just wow, I honestly dont know how else to verbalize my confusion beyond this
She dates many men apparently
@@Letizia2810 okay, and?
Hey at least she's not with the lead "singer" of Nicklecrap anymore lmao
@@Letizia2810 Funny fact, one of her recent songs has a video about this 🖤🧡
Industry plant or not, let's not front. TATU slapped.
I listen to tatu at least once a month to this day.
Wasn't TATU that Russian fake lesbian eurovision duo?
Too bad one of them's grown to become a villain.
laowhy watches finn?!!!
@@bennymountain1 Yeah it honestly sucks. She was the main singer too. On the other hand tatu as a whole is so "problematic" that you kinda have to just put all that shit aside haha.
Thanks for highlighting the impact Avril had on a wide swath of young women and girls. Seeing a talented musician and singer dress alternatively and carve out her own path between genres was incredibly influential.
Thank you for making this man. I always try to tell people over the years about the deeper story. Really glad to see an official and so well done video on it 💗
"I'm with you" has always been a personal favorite of mine.
When I was twelve, one of my friends was having girl trouble, and we sat in his computer room listening to 'I'm With You' on repeat while he worked through that difficult time. Thanks Avril.
I LIVED Avril Lavigne in my teens. Her music was like the girl you brought home to meet mom. Avril's music is poppy enough that your parents wouldn't mind you listening to her while you also listened to heavier quote end quote "true" punk music behind their back. I still openly jam her music from time to time. Avril is the shit. 'Nuff said.
I've seen some videos of Avril talking about and demonstrating her song writing process and she's said that she really likes to involve herself in every step of the process from the lyrics, to the instrumentals to the lighting on stage to how she wants her music videos to be. She puts a lot of work into everything that she creates and everything she makes really is hers.
Being a millennial who was about 11-12 in the early 2000's the past two videos you have done have hit hard! Both Hybrid Theory and Let Go were huge in bringing me into my addiction which is music
Finn just hitting all my preteen defining artists
You're built like a preteen.
Hey I know!👍
Nice to see you here!!!
Hey its Amanda
Bro, I don't care who knows it, as a 13 year old male, I loved the album Let Go. I still love that album.
I remember in 2006 when the top two videos on UA-cam were The Evolution of Dance, and Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend.
Idc what anyone thinks- I would’ve never gotten into goth, punk, metal and grunge music if it wasn’t for Avril. For me she was the first alternative artist I ever listen to. if it wasn’t for this I don’t think I would’ve ever found my corner of a community and would’ve been forever damned to feel like an outsider. I know that when she came out with the last 2-3 albums people were saying she was being replaced by a lookalike or some other outlandish thing but I never thought that the community hated her?
Another good video my man. “losing grip” is a personal favourite of mine 👍🏾
It was probably intentional, but I’m surprised you didnt touch on the “she’s dead but she has been cloned” story! lol
Yes that was intentional
Losing Grip is very underrated song and I wish she would play more songs from Let Go
@@BasketCase420 Agreed, I definitely miss her grunge-nu metal songs like Losing Grip, Take Me Away, Together, Forgotten, and How Does It Feel.
Well put. Her track with Mod Sun has had me delving a bit deeper into her work lately. I remember when Skater Boi was all over mtv2 and genuinely liking the track. Even though she was obviously more a pop artist than part of the rock world back then i think over time she has come to be regarded as a credible artist and one of the more significant ones to bridge that gap.
I LOVE her song 'Flames' with Modsun! I've been rocking out to it lately! It's a banger!
I'd say she was a bit of both a pop singer and rockstar. Her second album was definitely more rock than anything. It's mostly alternative rock, grunge, nu metal, punk rock, and post-grunge.
Still waiting for the day she makes another heavier alternative album.
@@zacharyengle4256 exactly, she's a pop/rock artist mainly but her impact is in her pop/punk songs and her attitude
You totally forgot to mention "I'm with you" and "losing grip". Those are the best from her imo
Despite the title this is one of your positive videos, which I prefer. While not a fan of Avril's music I have respect for what she has achieved. I enjoy your analysis of why artist are successful. Keep up the good work.
Avril Lavigne and Good Charlotte are guilty pleasures of mine. They did a lot to introduce preteens into alternative and punk. Also she’s still a total stunner.
Agreed, I know they both got me into punk/pop punk and still a big fan of hers and them
Dude omg I tell people all the time that I first got into pop punk from Avril and Good Charlotte on the radio!
@@TheJrockfreak SAMEEE
@@davidrivera6017 awesome
Thank you so much for this video, Finn. When I was a kid I was the only girl in my class who hated wearing typically feminine clothes and loved rock music, and Avril was the first person that made me think that being a girl was pretty cool, and that I was doing right by being myself. Because of her I got into blink, the distillers, rancid, fugazi, and a ton more artists. One thing that always felt special about her to me is that she always felt like a friend as well as an artist. Forever stanning this woman.
Same!
It was Gwen Stefani for me before going solo. Wooo
@@Queueddd And Shirley Manson from Garbage
Re-reading this comment I posted a year ago I realize I sound like a total pickme, but I didn't mean it in that way. Even though I tried, I could never get into the things the girls in my school liked. And you know, when you're a kid things are pretty binary, so I thought "wow I'm a girl but I like rock music and football so that must mean I'm actually a boy" and Avril showed me that there were a million ways to be a girl, and you could kick ass that way too.
@@keytoawesomeness I can relate! It was a weird time to be a young girl who liked rock, at least more than other genres. I know what you mean about feeling like a boy too. Even though I've always been very feminine. I still tell people a lot of my childhood "heroes" were guys because it's who I found relatable in that sense. Avril definitely helped change that although I was lowkey hating at first lol.
I was surprised by how much I liked hearing about her history. I've never been a fan of Avril, but my sister definitely was when we were kids. I remember hearing Avril's voice come through the walls between our rooms *constantly* during our summer vacations. Sometimes it drove me crazy, but even I thought she had a couple decent songs back then, so it surprises me that she got so much hate.
Now I have a better idea of how talented she was during the early 2000s, and she had a drive to succeed that I wish I would've had back then. This was a great analysis video and hearing those clips from some of her songs brought back some good memories that I completely forgot. Looks like youtube recommendations got something right today lol.
thank you very much for the video
Here in Brazil we love her a lot
I follow her since 2002
I love this woman
I finally started digging into her music last year and now she's one of my fav artists.
I was late to the game too. I used to work in a store that had the radio on and she'd come on all the time and I'd groan. I felt nostalgic so I just put on her first album while I was at work and by the end of the day I had listened to almost her whole discography and was really impressed. We were missin' out
i was in 3rd grade when Avril came on to the scene, and as a suburban white girl, definitely became a huge fan of her from the start. she was definitely the entire reason why i begged my parents for my first little cheap guitar for my birthday. i also remember clear as day how much she was referred to as a ‘poser’ by my male peers back then and did feel a bit embarrassed about liking her but, she’s really been able to prove what a lot of us saw that she was capable of back then.
I was jamming out to Backstreet Boys and Nsync around 9 or 10 before Linkin Park and Korn captivated me. I blame my mom.
@@trippybruh1592 yes! I was listening to classic rock a lot from my parents (still do) and also found bands like Korn, Static X, Slipknot at a young age. No one should feel ashamed of music they like. It’s hard when you’re a kid and don’t want to look uncool. That’s why as an adult even if I don’t like an artist’s music, I just say it’s not for me but I appreciate their talent anyway. I don’t want kids to think it’s not ok to like what you want.
Prove what? She made her best music in her first 2 albums. I’m very unimpressed with her latest music. They aren’t timeless classics like her old stuff, they’re just hollow forgettable pop records
@@johannsebastianbach3501 yeeeah I was quite clearly referring to the old music I listened to at that age when people told me she wasn’t good……….in case that was difficult for you to understand the first time.
@@69gabygirl the hell is your problem? Drop the sarcasm you child lol. “quite clearly” what? it wasn’t actually. You said something a long the lines of “she’s been able to prove what a lot of us saw she was capable of” … keywords “been able to ”, implying she’s doing that even up to right now, which isn’t the case . What I got out of your statement is she’s been able to make music up the the same standard as she did back then, which she hasn’t come close to. When someone questions your statements you don’t reply insulting their intellect with unnecessary sarcasm. Makes you seem highly unlikable.
I'm so happy to see this video. I'm oldschool punk. Started going to shows in Seattle in 1979. Saw D.O.A., The Refuzors, The Subhumans (Canada), Black Flag, Bad Brains, The Accused with their original singer John before Blaine from The Fartz joined and they went crossover thrash, and many, many more, and the first time I heard "Ska8r Boi" I said, "This is fuckin' great!" My punk friends, to put it mildly, disagreed. As for me, I developed even more respect for Avril when I saw her live shows on UA-cam and felt the passion in her performance, not to mention her great singing. I had no idea what a badass she was at 16 when she told L. A. Reid they had to change the direction and sound of her first album. Amazing. And what about her live cover of Metallica's "Fuel" for MTV icon? It was fantastic! So yes, praise Avril. She's a really cool person and one helluva performer.
Good job writing and organizing your synopsis’s finn. Great job.
The fact that she is at the very least a co-writer of her songs is admirable. Fun fact: Kelly Clarkson's "Breakaway" was actually Avril and Co.'s work.
@@getout940 Maybe the joke goes over my head, but "van Gogh" succeeding?
@@getout940 Dude, You need SOME level of help in order to make it big in the music industry. You can't just play small shows and just expect to blow up over night. At the end of the day it's about the music itself and not about how it got there.
@@getout940 u just hate avril lavigne
@@getout940 Both Poe and Van Gogh died broke and didn't achieve massive fame until years later
@@getout940 Van Gogh was poor and lived with his brother. If his brother hadn't provided for him, he wouldn't have been able to paint.
Part of her talent is having a great voice and knowing how to use it to “sell” the song to the listener. Few other singers could make some of those lyrics work in a way that was both sincere and playful.
Mr. Punk Rock MBA, thank you for this extraordinary video. Informative. Original. Persuasive. Compelling. Respectful toward everyone. I am into none of the genres or scenes you discussed, but you managed to connect a lot of pieces,. making it easy for my out of touch head to understand. You have a special talent for putting together whatever kind of thing this is you did here. My hat is off.
I think you're a bloody legend, Finn. I loved this video, and I think I'm not alone in saying that I had fallen for some of those stereotypes of her too.
Grade A research, insight and delivery.
Thanks heaps.
This is a great deep dive into something that has such widespread opinions. Great video Finn!
I wish more labels listened to the artists themselves.
To her absolute credit, Avril was for 2000s teens, what Gwen Stefani was for 90s teens. She really straddled the line between pop punk, and the late 90s alt rock/pop grunge sound of Lifehouse, Switchfoot, and Goo Goo Dolls, so well that it seemed effortless.
I'm With You is a top tier song, and I still listen to it regularly.
Since the first time I saw her on screen I fell in love with her, with her unique way of being. Through these years only has show us that she really deserves all the awards she has won.
Nice video thanks ! I enjoyed it
Avril Rocks !
Avril absoLUTELY made me feel more confident in my decision to play guitar and drums, learn to skate, speak up when I disagreed with things in class and eventually at work, and ultimately she even played a role in my feeling able to go into a male-dominated field for my first career. Was it ALL her? No. However, she made it big with Sk8er Boi when I was in the 8th grade and from that point on, watching her (even if she was just a few years older than I was at the time - it felt like a much bigger gap, then) helped me make my choices that went against the grain. Choices I'd been conditioned to make since birth. I'll always be grateful to her for that.
Lavigne also got such a large number of girls to buy their first guitar and start leaning to play a few years before the post guitar hero boom. I have friends that are professional musicians that can trace their journey back to buying the Avril Lavigne Squier Telecaster.
I actually started tearing up at the end of this. Thank you so much. You made just about every point that I always try to make whenever people rip on Avril Lavigne in my presence.
I have been absolutely ridiculed over the years for looking up to her and tbh kinda shaping my entire personality around hers. But whenever people drag her in front of me, I tell them to listen to her ALBUMS, not the singles. A lot of my favourite songs never saw the light of mainstream media. So many incredible tunes that usually, 9 times out of 10, surprise the fuck out of people when I show them. I even made my damn Ex come to respect her after listening to her full discography.
I have Avril to owe for everything I grew up to be. She taught me so much. Not to take any shit, hold tight to who I am and what I want and never settle for less, and love with my heart on my sleeve.
So yeah, I might be a little Avril wannabe, still, at 28, but I wouldn't have it any other way. Little Black Star (that's her fandoms name haha) for Life, man! 🖤
always love your perspectives, thank you!
I really love this video! It strikes a chord with me because I feel defensive toward young folks with talent who get dissed and women with talent who get dissed, and I also love cheering for people who share my nationality who find success outside of Canada.
I’m sharing this with a friend who was a big Avril fan about 14 years ago.
I'm so glad Mod Sun is a huge fan of this channel, so I know Avril will more than likely see this amazing video about her
Avril is legend! She's what Billie Eilish is to 2005 kids to kids born in 1996 and what Alanis Morissette is to 80's kids. Every gen has its solo alternative chick making waves.
Wtf that's the worst comparison ever. As you say, Avril is legend but Billie is cringe AF, and they're not even on the same genre.
@@ZeroDarknezz congrats, you missed the point
@@ZeroDarknezz I think it’s a pretty apt comparison. Of course not in terms of genre but in terms of those artists being in the broader category “solo alt chick making waves.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if you thought Avril was cringe AF back in her day. People generally hate on the in vogue young female artist.
@@ZeroDarknezz 😂😂😂
Run
Perhaps you can still get the point
Avril was 5th grade me's First crush. Still a fan of her music to this day and I have no issue admitting this.
Great video of my favorite artist! thanks!!
Avril is underrated and deserves so much more credit for the way she paved for so many bands and artists out today
I never grew up with Avril Lavigne, but she’s freaking awesome and talented.
I never thought of her being a pop punk artist i always viewed her as a pop artist with punk aesthetic like Pink
She had some punk songs "i dont have to try"
Pink is still better lol Avril doesn't have original style, she followed every famous artists and asked to every ex husband to write songs for her.And weirdly, so many artists got not nice comments.But about her behavior, almost noone talk about it.I also always feel kinda Aspie vibes from her.I assume she has Asd and adhd.Well if you have those family or partner, you know..
@@maigy99xx67 What makes you think she's a aspie?
I just like that she wasn’t preachy or got into politics. She just let her music speak for itself!
Oh my god a year of sporadically begging you to make this video and you do it 6 months ago and I miss it… I’m embarrassed haha. But the fact that we share the same favorite Avril song was a magical moment. Another amazing video Finn!!!
Thanks sooo much for this video! I was probably "too goth" and "too old" to be as obsessed with Avril as I was in the early 2000's (I was in my early 20's), but I absolutely loved her first two albums. The albums following "Under My Skin" weren't completely to my taste, but you were totally right about there being a few absolute bangers on all of them. I love her songs with Mod Sun and Willow Smith, and am super excited for her new pop-punk album!
Great insight. She has always been a guilty pleasure artist for me (I’m a grunger so…integrity lol) but I now have a deeper understanding of her struggle coming up and her vision. Cheers!
Her 2nd Album was terrific, IMO. TOGETHER, TAKE ME AWAY, DON'T TELL ME, and HOW DOES IT FEEL are all great.
It’s absolutely a great record
Yeah, I feel people who vocally don't like her have heard Sk8er Boi and Girlfriend and none of her other stuff. I still really enjoy what she put out on her 2nd album, it just gets no attention.
I love those type of songs from her, like losing my grip they are great
I remember that even my older brother, who isn't interested in Rock music at all, had a crush on her back in 2002.
Love for you to do a video on the nuances of the prodigy and how they merged two real opposite music cultures, how their sound changed over the years and the conflicting mainstream media views on them
Besides her music, I remember being a huge fan in 2010-11-ish (I was born in '99) and absolutely loving her Bast Damn Thing era. In contrary to her iconic tomboy style, this one was very girly and focused in being cute and edgy, for example the pink-black combo with hearts and skulls. That was probably my transition from childish clothing to teenage fashion. I wanted to own those clothes so bad but that clothing was never available in my country because emo/scene never arrived here. To add, I was embarrassed to ask my mom for edgier clothes.
I absolutely adore Avril's ballards. When You're Gone is one of my all time favourite songs, it is beautiful in every way. I'm With You, same again, a beautiful song. She is amazing. Love her ❤️❤️
Really well articulated video 👍
She is and always will be a very talented singer. Her voice is incredible.
Screw the elitists. I effing LOVE Avril Lavigne.
Great take! I just found this channel and super enjoy your perspective. I saw Avril perform a medley of her hits live last night at the JUNO awards in Toronto (also caught her sound check), and basically had an epiphany - I know all the words and like the songs, despite how much I abhorred her whole gimmicky mall punk thing when she first came out. She sang her ass off too - she's a powerful vocalist and a hit songwriter and a star. I'm a late in life Avril fan, who knew?!? Haha. Looking forward to checking out more of your content.
I grew up down the road from where Avril did. I was a few years older, but her style of dress was very much what we wore in that region a few years earlier (pre,during, and post Grunge era). When I first saw her on Muchmusic, I was blown away by how local she appeared.
I’m 22 and Avril Lavinge he was my first crush. I will always love her
All these years later, my daughter is hooked on her back catalogue as if it came out yesterday. She was 9 when she discovered her, changed her look overnight and now, at 12, still sings her songs with a belting passion and is introducing me to cool new music that would have completely passed me by. That is legacy.
That's so wholesome. We need more like this
Oh man, I remember being like 11 or 12 and walking through Tammy Girl in the UK and she was playing through the shop speakers, I remember the clothing back then too, I had a pair of Gallaz skate style shoes, those jeans that used to get all scragged up at the bottom from walking in them and would suck all the rain up to you shins (every 2000's fashion staple).
Ooh I love how you are dissecting this!
Complicated was the soundtrack to my last breakup. Never did I think that I would have been relating to Avril Lavigne as a then 25 year old man as much as I did but low and behold I did.
never forget her amazing band that made the let go , mark spicoluck evan and matt they were awesome
I can't wait to finally see Avril in concert!
It's my first one too, I've always loved Avril Lavigne!
She's a real genius.
Great vídeo, thanks! As someone who grew as a Rocker around a Lot of people, admiting that i listened to avril lavigne was always troublesome.
I think I had a similar experience to a lot of people here. In the 2000's when I was in middle school I didn't really consider it an option to like Avril. I dismissed her as girly/poppy/uncool. Now as an adult I have gone back and am not ashamed to say I love a lot of her songs. I wish I had had more confidence as a kid to just listen to whatever sounded good.
Yeah i listened to a few of her sons BC my daughter is learning drums, i i was like "oh shit this is good "
I was 13 in 2003 and used my chore money to buy her first album "for my sister" but really I wanted to listen to it and check out the CD booklet. She was my second crush after Mary-Kate and Ashley haha.
Agree with this, but my middle school girlfriend loved her at the time so I got away with listening to her 🤣
I loved Avril Lavigne's music since Complicated and I'm dude. Even those new songs she's in are good. I got nothing but mad respect for her.
Am dude as well
Yet another PRMBA video that reminds me of what a douchey rock snob I was in college. Thanks, Finn.
This breaks preconceptions that you mentioned. Thanks for the story breakdown.
I love the video! 🖤🖤🖤 Avril deserves so much more recognition for the path she paved for another alternative girls and her legacy keeps going and going! Great work 🌟
I was 19 when Avril Lavigne broke big and was knee deep in hardcore (especially ebullition, level-plane, robotic empire, gravity, gold standard labs, etc underground "screamo" type stuff). Being that into DIY hardcore, I wasn't watching MTV and hardly ever listened to the radio. I think I heard the first three Avril Lavigne singles (how could you avoid them?) and couldn't have given a damn about the punk influence. I knew it wasn't "real" punk, whatever that is, but was past the point in my life where I was insecure enough to care. I feel like every fan of a genre which is very tribal/"underground"/community based eventually reached a turning point they realize that "fake" versions of what they are into, or younger people who are "posers" are some of the least important things in the entire world.
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I’ve been watching all your videos for awhile now and loved this one in particular.
Would love to see you do a deep dive on the riot grrrl scene or women in rock. Bands like Jack Off Jill, Babes in Toyland, L7, Veruca Salt, My Ruin, Hole etc.
damn it. I have not felt this personally attacked....I was one of those people, who, kind of liked her music, but hated her being mentioned having anything to do with punk. Of course, at the time, I was listening to NOFX a lot, not realizing the irony of "keeping punk rock elite". Well, ther great thing about being a human, is is the ability to reason, and admit just how wrong I was. Thanks again, Finn.
the DIY mentality in the punk and hardcore scene for all the good its done is partially to blame for this, at least in my mind it affected whether I liked an artist for most of my life until recently and even now if I know your grind was significant and your songs are solely yours and your bands I respect it more, I'm not saying it's right just using myself as an example. Anyway love the videos finn
Awesome video, Finn! I've been loving these "Misunderstood Genius" videos, and thanks for letting me know about her new album coming up. I had no idea she was putting out a new album soon, and I'm a huge fan of her's. Awesome work man, love the content!
Thank you!
@@ThePunkRockMBA And now you're on Sacred Symbols+! This day couldn't get any better haha
Excellent facts as usual. Thanks for posting this video. I love Avril
Loved the video. Avril is an icon.
It's interesting to compare Avril's career to that of Alanis Morissette. Alanis actually did comply with the system and record two pop albums before making Jagged little pill and transitioning to rock. And yet, her rock debut was considered "legit". The only difference I can come up with was the perceived maturity. Morissette started with You Oughta Know, an angry anthem of a woman scorned. Lavigne debuted with a song about a boy, while showing an edgy teenage girl aesthetics. And I believe one thing rockers disregard more than women in rock is girls in rock. We as a society really hate what teenage girls like. And the rock scene is even worse than the rest of the society.
And I believe one thing rockers disregard more than women in rock is girls in rock" True. I always felt that Stevie Nicks or Joni Mitchell don't get the respect they deserve. Alanis was considered bold for songs like You Oughta Know back in 95, but also remember that this was before the pop machinery assault of the early 2000s.
I don't think anyone heard of her before one hand in my pocket
Idk. I like female artists & musicians. I like their brattiness, fearlessness, & angst. Breaking norms and all that jazz. Gonna create a fake date account for my fiance and make him look extra special to salute. 👊 sincerely, the influenced 🤗." Guhl powah "✌
She only has six albums but she was fighting lyme disease for a long time starting in 2015, which kept her from writing.
She's really talented and hardworking girl with a sense of humour. Always sings live and sings PERFECT. I used to be a big fan. Nowadays I'm not into being a fan of any musician but Avril still got a a huge place in my heart. And she really has that pop-punk and pop-rock vibes and she's a multiinstrumentalist.
This was so refreshing