Elderly Woman Scammed To Sell Her House | 999: What's Your Emergency
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Taking advantage of the elderly has become popular amongst scammers. The police take a call about a fake Detective, and a concerned son raises the alarm on behalf of his 94 year old mum with Alzheimer's, who has been subject to scam calls trying to sell her home.
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I worked for a telesales company for 4 weeks and got fired from a job because I wouldn't scam elderly people to change their windows. I never made a sale, I just chat with them and said goodby. Best feeling ever.
Got to name and shame them.
Even better, if you work for something like that again, take recordings and evidence etc for the press.
Stop lying you were never a telesales person
You sir are what we call, salt of the Earth. Top man
Scammers are relentless. At least there are good folks like yourself who'll show respect to people and NOT take their well earned money. We need more people like YOU in the world.
why did you work for them then, didn't you know what the job was
How is it not a criminal offence to exploit a vulnerable person to sell their assets for below market value?
I’m sure it’d have to fall under fraud or something similar
So many scams these days it’s so sad. Harsher punishments need to be put in place
*lmfao, profile pic and name checks out*
Because it can’t be, assets aren’t given a price by the government there given a price by people so the government can’t enforce any laws on it sadly
what some fraudster try to do is get a form of legal consent. So at the very least it is contestable.
Proving deception can be complicated if the elderly person is managing their own affairs and were convinced to do something.
I'm literally about to cry, heather looked so nice and now she passed away I just feel sorry for her, especially since people are trying to scam elderly people, it's sickening.
She hasn’t passed away.
@@jusalii Yeah she has sadly…
@@jusalii she has, it says at the end of the video. RIP 🪦 🕊😔😢
@@tealarmy6789 oh.. 🙁
Absolutely. People can be horrible creatures sometimes. At least you are spreading goodness.
I think the old lady’s son needs to get his moms house and assets signed over to him to protect it
@A H she has alschiemers there is power of attorney for things like this, for protection
@@sam-tk9wd She had carers, it was mention in the video your commenting on.
@@ryanmitcham5522 i meant like live in carers . If she doesnt want to go into a nursing home.
It seems as if he already has power of attorney.
One of my family members was scammed out of about £400,000 and they aren’t elderly. It’s actually a bit easier to intervene when it’s an elderly person as they’re deemed vulnerable and there are protocols in place to help them. If the person is younger and considered to be of sound mind, there is very little you can do if they’ve been taken in by these criminals.
I wish more could be done to catch these people but because of the internet, it’s so easy for them to hide behind VPNs, spoof numbers and operate from anywhere in the world.
One took thousands out of my grandads account but the way his account is set up every transaction it’s meant to be approved yet that didn’t happen so thankfully because that failed to happen he got every penny back.
Misleading title; she didn't actually sell her house.
Thanks for saving 6 mins of me life mate!!!
I lasted less than two weeks at a telesales charity fundraising company. They fired me because I wouldn't push old people to donate after so many of them were so anguished about getting up to literally 50 such calls a day. I was apologising for bothering them and then deleting their number off the system. You're not supposed to do that unless they specifically ask you to. I'd advise them that legally any "legit" company like the one I worked for has to strike off your number if you ask so if they got calls from anybody else they should request to be deleted. Also, if you say don't call me again and the company do they'll get in serious trouble. The company got into trouble after it was featured on a channel 4 docu for its bad practices and was fortunately liquidated in 2016.
There is a special place in Hell for those who exploit and harm the vulnerable.
Definitely
This lady needs 24 hour live in care for her own protection. Or fit a ring doorbell. The carer shouldn't let her give her bank details.
Soon as I heard that I thought whooaah and they weren't sacked? ...maybe they were in on it and it was a set up, potentially those supplying these unprofessional so called care staff could be sued or charged for fraud themselves
This might suprice you but she may still be classed as having capacity! The support worker could be sacked stopping her and takeing away her right to decided, she did they right thing by ringing the son right away.
@@veganvocalist4782 there is real grey area in care, what we legally allowed to do you have no idea if this lady has capacity or not!
@@clairehall704 if she has been issued with a DOL and her son has POA then he can intervene. If he gets a call guardian fitted on her phone it screens calls and no cold callers can get through.
@@jh2419 I was replaying back to vegan comment 😊
I still feel like scammers should be classed as Hostile Cyber Forces. Otherwise no one can do anything about scammers. It's just wrong how it profits off from people who are vulnerable and not knowledgeable about the situation they're in. Disgraceful.
This is exactly why I have got power of attorney for my Dad
We done the same thing with our parents. We went to their home for a visit and 2 sale's men were in their home and we told them that they were getting nothing from our parents. They were refusing to go. I went out to my car got my 2 German shepherd's took them into my parents. Believe you me they ran out of the house 🏠. Evil 😈scum who does this to elderly people and vulnerable people who have none other family members who can help them
Same here with my mother in law, both property and finance, health and welfare, things are in place with her bank that if there's anything untoward over her account they will not progress with the payment until they have spoken to us
@@brendapurvis4803 Shame these scum can't get what coming to em
This happened to my grandparents and I believe they took a lot of money from my grandparents. My mum managed to get all the money back and the scammers were arrested.
The fact that the number can be easily googled and yet they are still operating means the police aren’t doing anything about the actual companies doing this.
Little the police can do sadly. The law is appalling around these areas.
Disgusting 😠
Scammers are getting too clever. I have been getting texts saying I have a parcel delivery and to click on address in the message. I don't of course. Besides, half the time the scammer has a problem with spelling simple words and forming simple sentences. 😉
Everyone in the U.K. gets these texts recently, when you actually comprehend that... it’s insane .
@@loveunitedhateglazer7033 I'm from West Oz so it looks like its bouncing around the globe. So yeah, that is insane.
@@brenmac4775 when you think about things , nobody’s “safe” it’s all for one and one for all unfortunately. We gotta bring our kids up too be tough , but we good tough morals also
I got a call from a scammer saying they were coming to arrest me for fraud 😂😂😂😂 I also had a call from the same guy screaming something at me, but I couldn't understand him so I hung up 🤣😂😂 I only picked up cos my mum was in hospital and said she was going to call me
It’s weird to think that when a lot of us grow elderly these scams will be far less effective considering we all almost know about them
Yep, but the world will look so different again by the time you and I are elderly that the youngsters will be scamming us in ways we can't begin to imagine. :)
There's hundreds of scams out there ranging from "you've won the lottery , we need a fee to release the funds " , to " your grandson been lockup and he needs money for court fees " , to random MSG's on your phone that someone has opened another account in your name and to click on a link to confirm if true or not. . I don't know if you watch scamming vids on YT but I could recommend KITBOGA , SCAMMER PAYBACK , and JIM BROWNING, All these people educating citizens against scammers . .
This is dispiccable there should be a law against selling or trying to get elderly people to sell there homes or buy Windows the law needs to change to protect the most vaunrable.
Its disgusting what some people do for money
Why would anyone scam a elderly person with Alzheimer's that's disgusting if that was my Grandmother or grandfather I would be absolutely livid I really hate Scammers.they target anyone .
Why on earth did the career tell her to give over her bank details?!
I thought this too, if you re-listen carefully the son actually says 'mum gave them the bank details AGAINST the advice of the carer' definitely hard to hear though - having said that, the carer should of outright refused to let her do it....
Funny how they didn’t show up to attempt to buy the house too
@@originalunoriginal4055 actually unless there’s a DOLs in place the career can’t deny the person to do certain things regardless if she has Alzheimer’s or not the carer did the correct thing advised against it then informed the family and most likely documented what happened on her visit.
She didnt. She went against the carers advice.
Nasty people. Should definitely be sent to prison.
I’ve had about 10 phone calls of scammers and every time I just sit there and listen to the phone calls just keep saying yes yes yes a member till the end when they say can we have your credit card details and I go listen I sat there on the phone all that time to hear you say that and I’ve recorded the whole thing scumbags to do that to an elderly Lady
I had a friend that used to ask them to "hold the line please", then would carry on with her housework which may or may not have involved picking up the vacuum, even when it wasn't on her agenda for that day 😆
Buy yourself a football referee's whistle, and when you know it's definitely a scam call, blow the whistle as loud as you can down the phone. It's surprising how quickly they hang up.
This infuriates me. Especially scamming vulnerable people. It’s sickening. These people have karma on their backs.
Steve Cheatham.... not necessarily the BEST name when investigating fraud...
My 93 year old father had the same scam debit card call..he asked the caller what was the number they had on the 'cloned' card in their possession..they hung up!!!
Wise man
It's important to have these things around. Help build a sense of awareness really.
Jim Browning is brilliant at stopping this.
I'd love to get a hold of they kind of people taking advantage of people aged 94 real sick bastards
Poor lady. No one deserves to be scared into giving money away. Scammers are the scum of the earth
When my parents became of pensionable age they have received endless invitations to sell up and spend their later years in an old peoples home.How and where do they research their personal birth dates and then combine the retirement plans,What property they own and their health situation?..
It's sad this happens. It's incredibly difficult for the law to catch these horrible scammers because the majority of them come from other countries and usually in those countries they pay off the police to be able to keep doing what they are doing. It's disgusting.
I used to work for weatherseal windows up in scotland guy was a dirty bastard and used to try get me to sell 20k worth of new windows to a 80 year old couple on a 20 year payment plan. I refused and still got sacked.
Absoulutley disgusting as I said out loud before Our Good Brother Ian said It what reason would a 94 year old Good Sister have to sell her home NONE THATS IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
I assume the son had power of attorney. However, acquiring POA can be tricky sometimes, as it has to be approached when the person still has their wits about them and has a grasp of what is happening. In my case, broaching the subject with my mother in the early stages of dementia, enough that it aroused suspicion in her, she thought I was stealing her savings. I was never able to resolve that, which led to all kinds of hassle by the bank and social services afterwards.
The only scam calls I've had are the ones where they ask if you were involved in a car crash / have been involved in a car crash, i get into it, they ask me for card details, so what i tend to do is ask for the idiots to hand over actual cash, or come over to an adress (that adress being a police station), they usually hang up thinking it'll work, ohhhhh boy it'd be funny if they actually showed up, stupid as they seem over the phone lol
Must be exciting waiting for the scammer to turn back up
So sad.
I sickens me to the core that our society has come to a point where elderly are targeted for scams, robbery’s, drugs and taking advantage sure some will see what’s going on but most are to slow to catch on and it’s just disappointing :/
I truly believe these scammers should be publicly flogged.
In this instance the police didn't really need to be called out. I think older people just want to have the comfort of having a physical police presence to feel like they've been listened to, even though they can't really do anything about it. Debatable how much of this is wasting time. Kinda sad really.
Precisely
Agree it’s sad. Her son didn’t know it wasn’t a criminal offence. It should be.
If someone enters a shop and tries to rob the store but they dont actually manage to get any money should the store owner call the police, or would they be wasting police time? I would say this was the same. Theyre criminals trying to steal money from someone.
May not be the best use, but it's still better than spending time and money going after people for mean tweets, and I guess it's helped raise a bit more awareness about scams against the elderly.
@@nathanoafc0132 they literally never go after people for mean tweets. Stop following the narrative
Where I lie there s a law stating thy\t id\f a vulnerable person (not just the elderly) purchases something with coercion, then they ae entitled to their money back. Not quite the same, but a law is needed.
And this is why they carry on scamming as they get away with it…. Get me so dam angry
Can tell before watching this it’s gonna make me angry
Their should be a band on any type of cold calling from companies UK and abroad. I get about 10 a week. Hate the c***s!!!!!
They should set up a doorbell cam so they can answer the door instead of the mother. If they've gone out.
"They even knew my postcode"... I know they're old but jesus does knowing a postcode convince people??? Its hardly private information is it
I thought it was great, a scammer tries to scan an elderly lady, & who do they send round? P.C Cheatem, you couldn't make it up.😂😂
I would venture that the person didn't show up for the appointment because they had knowledge that both the intended victim's son and the police were involved.
And the scammer's plan was not to take ownership of the lady's house but to use her details to obtain credit fraudulently
My brain read this as "999 year old woman"
God… what a Waste of police time. Send the issue somewhere else..like her children
Great show
Bro. They did that to my nan with Alzheimer… it’s so fucked up that people can do that to someone
That’s so heartbreaking
In the final seconds the guy sounds like he’s actually the scammer
R.I.P Heather
"Can you tell me what makes you think this is a scam"? Because its my fricking mother love
Huh? How does that make any sense lol
@@ashleighmackenzie8670 So your mother wouldn't tell you if she was selling her house??
Steve “cheat em” hehehe
guss u are a genius
They would be pushing up the daisies if they tried that here
When my mum at age 84 was not safe by herself due to her advanced dementia.....I 'left' my home and husband and moved in with her......yes it was a challenge BUT I can sleep at night knowing I was there for her when she was at her most vulnerable....my husband visited every weekend...did the shopping and cut the lawn LOL....My mum passed away aged 89 with me stroking her hand and telling her what a wonderful mum she was to raise 8 kids....Where have we gone wrong when the elderly at their most vulnerable after delivering so much....are left alone!!!
Scammers are literally kids or gangs behind phone lines with no life, don't care about their actions, ambitions and have no family.
Just greedy scum who need to fill a void in their miserable life.
i agree
Ngl does annoy me that despite him saying she’s 94 and has Alzheimer’s , the operator still asks how do you know it’s a scam. Really don’t feel that Someone elderly and that vulnerable is in a healthy state of mind to be making them decisions
Not.really, they have to know what it is that suggests a scam, that way they can collect phone numbers etc.
It was not disrespectful but a way of gathering evidence.
@@tkralva.6668 that’s not my point , if you re read it , I’m talking about the frustration that regardless wether or not it’s a scam , a 94 year old woman with Alzheimer’s is in no condition to be making financial decisions of that scale . If world wide companies can kick a ceo off of the board of their offices due to mental health problems as it being circumstances in which they can’t make decisions for the company , we should also then be able to consider that elderly vulnerable people with deteriorating brain conditions can not make the same type of decisions. That’s my point , nothing to do with an operator “doing their job to make sure it’s a scam”
@@louishanson7630 so you don't understand the idea of evidence gathering.
It was not a wrong question to ask, and it was not suggesting that the caller was lying.
You are taking umbridge at something that does not need umbridge taken at, as at no point was the operator saying they didn't believe and wouldn't send out.
It is procedure and procedure is important, even if the chances of catching the criminal are remote.
I have a parent who has alzhiemers and I would not be offended at being asked such a question should the situation occur.
@@tkralva.6668 again I have no issue with evidence gathering , I have a simple question now, would you allow your patient to randomly sell their house whilst knowing they have Alzheimer’s
@@tkralva.6668 my single and only point that I am directing to you and only you is this , a person with Alzheimer’s can NOT make financial decisions of that scale , they could sell the house Monday morning , and by Monday evening have no recollection of it taking place . There is no way you can tell me that a person with a deteriorating brain condition that results in death , can be held accountable for decisions such as selling a house .
i wouldnt even phone the police, id wait until they knock the door and phone them an ambulance in advance
Leave our old people alone
Oh wow some people are hearthless
Yes, it is true that some ppl have hearths in their homes...and some ppl do not - but, can provide a warm environment in their homes nonetheless....
there's a special place in hell for people who scam the elderly
What goes around comes around
Scamming is just as bad as mugging, and it should be treated as seriously. Me, I am an inner city rat when it comes to being street smart, but our elders just want to be allowed to live the rest of their lives out without having people think they are easy targets for scams. The sentences for scamming should ALWAYS be custodial, ranging in length from 6 months for lesser offences, right up to over 10 years for those caught scamming the elderly and vulnerable.
Anyone who thinks people who commit financial crimes shouldn't go to prison, watch this video.
Scammers on the phone have gotten so bad that my Mum now refers anyone she doesn't know to me. She's the kindest, sweetest, most loving and generous woman, and I'm not letting some POS scam my 70yo mother. I get a real bee in my bonnet over this. Who steals from elderly people?
How is it not a criminal offence to scam an elderly person???
capitalism.
Why on earth didn't the police play out the scenario where the crook, in this case, named Paul had an appointment booked with the lady at 4pm to sell the house, he would have been caught & banged to rights in the act.no wonder the police never catch anyone!
ime not sure the intention for the scammer was ever to scam for the house more likely they are just trying to gain confidence with the victim to get access to the building. this could very well have ended with a break in and murder of an elderly persons in the papers bloody scary stuff. our elders come from a trusting and honest generation and dont understands the dangers that our out there today. humans are vile creatures.
Proper weasels. Rob an old lady. I don't condone Robert or violence but if you're going to rob some one that can defend them self cowards
Thank you .
The reason why the officer hasn't caught any scammers is because, the words out of his own mouth "its not a criminal offence" you've got to be absolutely kidding me...if that happened to him he'd be on them like shit to a shovel so why would this case be any different
There is a fine line between a 'scam' and just efficient selling/marketing of a product that one may or may not deem as good 'value' for the customer. I mean insurance is a good example, you're never going to profit long-term from taking out insurance. It is their to make profit for the company offering it, and for the buyer it gives piece of mind and reduces life's volatility, so may be worth it for that. No one calls insurance salesmen 'scammers', (well, rarely). People are jumping on the side of the elderly person and the relative and demonising the sales person just because of how this story has been portrayed. The thing is, his job is sales. He is going to try to sell his product. Which in this case I presume is the freeing up of capital in a property, by purchasing the property at a price the company can profit from. His commission is reliant on sales. Whether or not someone is ethically or morally capable of making an objective decision about their assets is largely subjective and open to interpretation. Providing they're offering money for her house, what he did is not illegal. Unethical maybe. That depends on your perspective. But the son is probably most angry because it'd mean he gets less inheritance.
No, if my mum was 94 and had a cognitive impairment, I'd get pretty pissed of at anyone trying to get her to make a life changing financial decision. The same way that if you are 94 and in hospital and say 'I want to go home to see my mum' it is unethical to say, okay, I'll help you pack your bags. Yes, people sell things, but the same way they have a duty to make sure they aren't giving loans to people who can't afford the repayments, they also have a duty to make sure someone is capable of making a decision. Handing over bank details over the phone, after one phone call, for the sale of a house, from a 94yo. That's clearly not taking enough precautions. Which is why it is a scammer rather than good sales.
Man it's gonna be hard in the future to scam us old ppl we will all be tech savvy am have smart phones and internet so messed up to take advantage of an elder
you assume that technology will be the same when you are 90
Technology is constantly advancing. What makes you think we will still be using smart phones in 50 years time?
I pass everyone some advice! If you possibly can buy a cheap mobile and get rid off house phones! You don't need a house phone for a Internet service! Also not many scammers ring mobiles!
Scammers should get the death penalty change my mind.
obviously not Jesus Christ. it's shitty but fucking hell, the death penalty?
get a grip on reality mate.. the punishment should fit the crime but death?? you on glue?
People don't know their bank czn block the card when not in use.
Should have arranged a meet
Report it to Action Fraud-lol.
They do nothing.
@@FateBoost they are lazy buggers and i think the lady i spoke to had been asleep. I said if its to much trouble she soon come to life then. 🇬🇧👍
God Rest Heather's Soul Amen xxxxxxx Home To Heaven Amen xxxxxxx With Our Ever Growing Ever Loveing Heavenly Family Amen xxxxxxx
Scammers are the lowest form of scum
5:32 This is how dumb the system is, but when the public try it, classed as illegal PMSFL, the world we live in is just a sugar coated topping /quote!
Live with your mum
Funny that this video title is a scam to, lol
02:58 Dom Jolly's double
aww i feal bad
Too many old people icl
Scammers should be classed as predators and be castrated
Realistically it’s sad Yh but there making more than the police officers on the show and your parents
What why would you do that for?OMG👨🏿✈️👮🏿♂️😱😱
Ian only worried because he will lose inheritance
This is why we have outlets to get back a nice home to process thieves for such demonstration
Help and support sent with medical home assistance with food clothing and required furniture
Sent immediately
AFFA angels never die nffn HMS council
lol PC Cheatem! Couldn't make it up.
"we're so driven by money, over our morals" - Capitalism
you don't know what you're talking about kid.
Without capitalism, you wouldn't be watching this video on UA-cam. But carry on thinking anything is better than capitalism zzzzzzz
@@scottchegg828 Communism means no Iphone - yes, because only capitalism could have made phones 🤡🤡
@@vexwebster5197 If there's no incentive to innovate nobody would do it. Moreover, I was referring to UA-cam not your phone but well done on outing yourself as a typical commie clown who uses a phone from one of the most capitalist companies in history.
@@scottchegg828, if there is no incentive to innovate under communism, how did the USSR go from being a backward agricultural nation to beating the best military in the world (the Nazis) and beating the US in the space race within a few decades?
Also, it's worth mentioning that the technology used for our modern devices such as the iPhone didn't come from capitalism but actually came from technology developed by Government funding. Capitalism is too short sighted to fund the innovation needed for large technological leaps, they just take the Government funded research and turn it into a commercial product for profit.
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4:46 The replacement of Judeo-Christian morals by the cult of self is to blame for this.
PD Seve Cheatham is not the best of policers offi ers,at least he an be ni e when cameras are about.
PC Steve "Cheat 'em"
Hmmm I can’t agree with police having to attend for a ‘u ok hun’ visit. They’re overstretched as it is and need to focus elsewhere!