How to Make Your Electric Bike More Comfortable
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video we will go over some different details on what makes an electric bike more comfortable for a particular person as well as ways to potentially improve an ebike that you may already own. We hope you enjoy and please feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns!
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TIMECODES:
1:30 Stem/riding position
4:20 Saddles
8:10 Handlebars
9:40 Grips
12:55 Seat post
14:30 Rear suspension
15:22 Tires
17:00 Pedals
24:00 More on handlebars
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Coming from the Netherlands one of the worlds most bike loving and using countries I want you to give a HUGE compliment. Really a informative and no nonsense video. Spot on👍🏻
This is quite the compliment. I was pleased to visit there and you’re not kidding. Looking forward to returning again soon to be amongst other bike lovers :)
I suspect there are few who spend time in the Netherlands who don't pick-up some Dutch sensibilities, and cultural adjustment, especially when it comes to transportation and bicycles.
Here in the States the biking industry was highjacked by the mountain bike style and off road bikes which is basically not what the average American person wants or needs
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It's not just the price of petrol
There's also the price of : the vehicle, insurance, motor tax, NCT, parking, tickets, maintenance, spare parts ... etc
Furthermore : you can't put a price on the health benefits of regularly riding a bike.
I got an electric road bike, and the first thing I noticed on my rough street was how uncomfortable it was compared to my regular road bike. The first thing I ordered was the GA3 ergo grips which are very similar to what came on my specialized. Next I tried a shock seatpost, but I found that the height of it was too tall for me, adding +2" to the minimum height just didn't quite work out, which was dissapointing as it did make a huuuge difference to the comfort of my ride.
This is 100% the most informative video I've seen regarding features that are soo important to riders - especially those that are new to bikes. Thank you!
I added a Suspension Seatpost with a cloud 9 cushioned saddle it has transformed my ebike into a very soft ride.
Most informative thank you Chris. Ebikes seem to be taking off in the UK now a bit, I have two. Very handy for the older person(68), I'd not be without them, they've got me out on the road again which I'd missed. Greetings from Harrogate, North Yorkshire.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! Ebikes are definitely growing in popularity! Great that you gave two and are getting out there! :)
You need an electric bike around those Yorkshire Dales! Stunning part of the country!
I ride both standard and electric. The hills in Oklahoma aren't as impressive as those in Yorkshire, but it's still nice to give my sad old knees an occasional rest, while still keeping my legs flexible.
Very informative. I'm 75 years old and right now riding an inexpensive "comfort" hybrid bike. I've recently been giving serious thought to getting an E-Bike.
get one
i use e bike to go to work and i love it
Dude, if you have the money, get one. They are so nice. I use mine to go everywhere: to visit friends, visit parents, commute to work, go to restaurants, and of course go on bike rides.
Bill K If you can afford it, get an R&M with dual suspension. I’m soon to be 75 and have been riding ebikes for a little over three years. First one was a Specialized Turbo. NO suspension. I added a Kinect seat post which helped a lot. Put 8,000 miles on that bike in two years. Then upgraded to an R&M Super Delite with Enviolo rear hub and belt drive, and dual suspension. I’ve not put 4,000+ miles on it and have had it only 10 months. I’m ready to sell my road bike and the Specialized comfort bike I bought 5 years ago. Get an eBike. You’ll love it.
Get an ebike with peddle assist and a throttle for easy starts. You will love the ebike!
Great video!
I’ve been using the cork style Ergo-grips for several years on a mountain bike and just ordered some for my Aventon Level. They’re the best.
Thanks for the tip on the Ergotec bars & stem. I may have to use them.
Keep up the great work!
You forgot. The ergonomics of the arrangement of the controls. Once upon a time time we could sit on a bicycle with a straight back. And bikes had sprung, cushioned seats to rest the derrière on. Always lacking was suspension to absorb shocks, though some compensation came with air filled tires, spoked wheels and flexing chromoly frames. Sadly bicycle racing and the desire for super light bikes became the design brief and billions of riders suffered bone breaking sore bodies. You talk like a salesman selling the more comfortable seat, while ignoring the original concept of comfort. Ladies bikes of the 1940s were more comfortable to ride than most bikes of today. Never under estimate the handle bars and hand positions. Look to the handle bars on 1900s bikes for social riding, not racing.
Good feedback. Thanks for sharing
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I really appreciate this informative content! Keep it coming!
After I initially bought a telescopic seat post that virtually jammed up under load withing 100 km, I bought a Suntour SP12-NCX suspension seat post with the cover about 5000km ago and never looked back.
That’s a nice post. I have to spend a bit more time on it.
Thank you Chris for a very informative review. I learned a lot from your video.
Thanks Chris.I am 70 and have just started to ride a three wheel tricycle which requires a very upright position. After two or three sessions my sit bones are really aching, so much so that I am still recovering from my last ride two days ago. Your advice to lean forward a little or to adjust the handle bars so that you sit a little more forward and thus reduce the pressure on your sit bones, seems worth trying. My tricycle already has a wider saddle so I will have to continue using that. I am going to buy an e bike conversion kit to help me get up the hills and this might help to reduce the pain in my butt! Best wishes from Birmingham, England.
Thanks Chris, im just trying to set up my new E bike and found this to be of great help with sitting position and comfort. John , Lincolnshire UK
Gotta say, in spite of yourself, you’ve ALMOST made it to the point of describing why recumbent bikes are more comfortable and more efficient than diamond frame bikes. SO close, and yet....
What is a electric bike?
It's those frames that splits in 2 of rear shocks with front shocks that fits the comfort needed on e bike speed over 24mph. Huge difference from single front shocks and you do feel the bike adapting to surface terrain and extremely fun sitting down thru out. My other 1 front shock only e bike I tend to lift butt up over bumpy terrain.
Great video Chris. This answered a number of questions that I had about retrofitting for my non-electric bike. Very helpful. Thanks you for your clear and accessible videos. Carol
Unless you're hitting 50mph aerodynamics play a very minimal role.
A very interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. I recently bought a 2nd hand non-electric *Babboe Big* tadpole tricycle/driewieler bakfiets. It's primary use is to transport astrophotography gear, (not Newtonian telescopes, and RCs). It's also splendid for going shopping here in Amsterdam. A trundle down to the supermarket and back, is very convenient. However, its downside is it's a heavy hardtail beast. Any bumps and lumps on the cycle path surface, are felt straight up my spine. To alleviate the problem, I upgraded the seat post to a *SUNTOUR SP-12 NCX* suspension saddle/seat post. I also purchased the optional red hard spring, rated for riders weighing: 100 - 120kg. At just over €71, the post was a bargain. The spring was just over €9. It's made a huge difference my cycling experience. The ride on the *Babboe Big* , is now as smooth as silk. My spine is extremely happy with the purchase 😆. I highly recommend this suspension seat post for anyone with a hardtail non-racing bike 😃.
I know some people that bought quite expensive roadbikes thinking about weight, tires and gears but not giving a thought about saddlewith and the preassure it causes on nerves and stuff. Its really good to bring those things up.
Really good video... One I found extremely informative as well as interesting - hands down!
My question is - you quickly mentioned the type of suspension that the bike has which determines the comfortability of the ride overall.
My emtb for instance is a hard tail. It has no suspension in the rear part of the frame. It's (factory installed) tires are the 26x4.0 tire.
Would you prefer to ride such a bike that has no rear suspension on the asphalt and/or groomed trails that consist of compacted gravel or up a dirt trail loaded with 3 - 6" protruding rocks? BTW, I'm 5' 9" tall.
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Wow, so much I didn't even know to consider, Thks for this. Getting ready to make a purchase, glad I found this video.
I'm thinking about adding suspended seatpost to my Urban Arrow. The thing is that usually a cargo bike has more than one driver and their weight might differ. I think I will go for Cane Creek, beacuse it's easier to change the elastometer (tool free) while swaping riders than changing the string in Kinekt.
I love the Jones H Bars... my hands/wrist go to sleep with a standard straight BTB bar... The position is really important... I also recommend the Selle Royal saddles.
Find a Brooks saddle that suits you. Most common one is the B17. I have two of them. If you want a bit suspension then the Flyer is B17 with springs! Tourers love them, I love them!
Whoa, those seat post is what I need.
It definitely helps a lot!
First the seat is called a saddle , why? well because like a saddle you should your weight on your feet and not your butt. It is not your recliner or your adjustable car seat. When you see some uneven ground ahead stand up flex your knees. or you can spend a fortune for a big cushy seat which adds weight to the bike. Just get out there and ride.
Thanks for all the articles . I am riding a Ride1Up 700 now and being riding since the 50's first bike was a kids truck bike, At 12 I got a gazelle english racer styled 3 speed with that internal floating gear box in the rear hub( used to slip once in a while while was not fu)n but I loved that bike. until the Bungalow Bar truck back up on it (back in the North Bronx, in 67'.
Love your videos Thank You.
With all of these expensive accessories that are so easy to remove. I don’t think I could ever trust a bike lock to secure my bike. It’s coming in with me inside the store. And if management complains, I tell them how much my bike is worth. If they still complain, I’ll take my business somewhere else.
I'm sure they'll care a lot about how much your bike costs
Great video. Especially your explanation of sitting upright vs leaning forward. Many believe sitting upright is the ultimate comfort. But I have found the opposite. It is like sitting on a bar stool. Not comfortable for more than a few minutes. And also like you said all the force of bumps go straight through your spine.
Very comprehensive, as always Chris. Not a decision to be rushed, you want to try and get it right the first time. Thank you.
His video compiles separate stuff I have learned over a few years. Great job.
At my LBS, the salesperson didn’t give a damn about comfort after he sold me the bike. Several months after the sale, he could have advised on changing the handlebar and stem due to being stretched out with lower back pain.
I was interested in your discussion about having fairly rigid soles on your cycle shoes. I would have totally agreed with you 9 months ago, but then started wearing barefoot shoes. Initially they were terrible to ride in, but now that I am used to feeling the ground, even the thinnest-soled shoes feel okay.
Great video as always from you, Chris. Seeing your discussing handlebars, I wonder what the best choices might be of mirror(s) to add to them? What would really look good here in Michigan, would be me, wearing a Propel hat with your logo? What's the chance of you adding it to your store accessories? Thanks again.
Useful. I'm an upright tight rider most of the time. The "sporty" saddles kill me, and make the ride miserable. Always trying to find the right saddle that balance comfort (most important) with performance.
The Selle Royal Lookin series is pretty popular in our shop.
@@Propelbikes Thanx, will check that out.
Need a third category of saddles. Hornless and superwide for fat bottom ladies who want to ride relaxed but dont want the inner thighs rubbing and chafing a horn. Make it more comfortable and chubby chix will ride. Might need a beefier frame. Tern HSD will do. Hard to balance and swing a heavy leg over a downtube.
Very few if any E-Bike makers fit Twist grip gear changers. I had to fit a nine-speed gear train in order not to be fleeced purchasing an overpriced 10-speed twist grip.
Twist grip is a no-brainer, especially as many E-bike buyers will have thumb arthritis which makes rapid-fire changers painful to use.
Instead of the tune "green eyed lady" it's "green eyed bike dude"...sorry. Anyhoot, great vid, thx! I'm a bit ADD and I couldn't get past the green reflections on your glasses at the beginning...squirrel!! (looks away at the running squirrel)
Great tips! Any thoughts on numb toes after about 90 minutes of riding? Would you suggest changing shoes first to a firmer sole?
got the Nevo3 on order from Propel for my girlfriend.... can't wait to see her face ;)
My e bike is more on the saddle side. In the market for some seat cushion.
If you’re sitting upright more cushion is good. Be careful with soft saddles on long rides though. You might end up not feeling like you have much cushion left after it compresses.
Will putting Tannus Armour tire inserts into my 4”x20” tires make much of a difference? I ride on cobblestones and the bike has no suspension.
I'm really enjoying your videos during this unique time ✌🏼
Thanks James. I appreciate your kind words.
Do you have any common the Dutch style of handle bars. I noticed on a recent trip to the Netherlands. Almost all the bikes I saw had the Dutch style. Thanks enjoy your videos
I had never seen the LookIn line of seats but that looks like it would be pretty great for my RadRunner Plus 3. Do you sell that saddle or another saddle that would be good to order for that bike?
Hello! What is the front rack on your bike please 😇😇?
Number one best comfort improvement for me was the thudbuster seat post.
Like your videos. Seen are few. You look a little passed off in your videos. Why so somber? Liven it up a little.
"Fully sprung" ebike = as heavy as you can get.
Better have 2 Batts for that kinda weight.
Very descriptive video. Definitely I confess that I am fixed on the Brooks b17 or b33 saddles for all my bikes. Very good point about the peddles, I confess that will be the first thing I will change when I receive the packster 70, put a more wider pedal like mountain bike type to use with my trail trainers.
I’m thinking about Brooks for my Tern HSD S8i but on peddles I fitted the two sided Shimano M324 so I can ride clipped in or not. Packager 70 a stunning machine 👍
Hi Chris, thanks for this video. I’m just about to change my saddle : what’s the brand of the one we see at the bootom, with the blue triangle behind ?
Excellent video on bike adjustments! Just what I needed to see!
Very helpful useful detail information. Mahalo!
Thanks Rex! Glad you enjoyed it!
My gentleman’s area goes numb on long rides. Is that seat angle? Or handlebars to low?
Great video. I'm a heavier guy looking for my first ebike, and thanks to lockdown can't get out to try. What is the 1st bike you show?
Thanks! I would recommend looking at Riese & Müller Charger3 or the Supercharger2. They have a heavy duty package with moves the max weight to 353lbs. Most of their bikes are good to about 300lbs though. Feel free to shoot us an email if you want to talk more or I’m happy to also hop on a call.
@@Propelbikes wow they look amazing, thanks. They're a bit out of my price range tbh, looking at sub £2k. Maybe that's a bit optimistic. Been looking at the new Wisper Wayfarer. I have a ridgeback pedal bike, but the seat is excruciating, and the handlebars seem so far away. Bad choice, 10 years a go..
I’m not familiar with those ones. I would recommend a bike with a strong frame and wider tires. You can always swap the seat.
My BMX bike seat changed my manhood when I converted it to an e-bike
Why do (almost all) bike guys wear that weird-shaped hat/cap?
Wow, I can't thank you enough for this.
its actually title
how to make ebike more comfortable for thiefs
Very helpful video, well done. To confirm, is it possible to order a RM with a GP5 handle? Wondering if that would enable an upright riding position depending on the handle rotation back toward the rider?
Glad you liked the video. It’s not possible to order the bike with a GP5 grip but we can easily swap them in the shop. Angling the stem will get you an upright position but the GP5 grips can give you some other hand position options as well.
Who else watches this with his ass hurting from a bike ride?
Softer the better, on the seat?
Great work Chris. Nice clip.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for answering my seat position, pedals and shoe queries. Great video Chris.
So great to hear!
Around the 8min mark, there are water bottle holders near the stem. What brand are they?
Those are Fabric water bottles. propelbikes.com/product/fabric-cageless-water-bottle/
I am interested in the water bottle holder -- what type is it? excellent video as always!
I think you're talking about the Fabric water bottle cage. See more here: propelbikes.com/product/fabric-cageless-water-bottle/
soft saddles are great for short distance commuting, but the longer you spend on a soft gel saddle the more you will stick to it and experience chaffing and saddle sores..my choice for my ebike is a Brooks B17 Narrow saddle, a firm leather saddle that initially feels hard but the longer the ride, the more comfortable it is, the Brooks is a firm leather saddle which allows you to move around without sticking to it and can be tension-adjusted which allows for the natural stretch of the leather.
Ian Fisher you mean soft saddles, are you referring to those memory foam saddles which can be compressed? It’s best to get hard saddles for Long ride?
@@winsonlimofficial yes correct, Iv'e found that those memory foam type saddles initially feel great but after a few hours the foam has compressed and i'm stuck to it and sitting on the plastic base, that's when it gets painful.
Many touring cyclists use a Brooks leather saddle, so, I bought one and it initially feels very hard but the longer the ride, the better it gets...mine is a Brooks B17 narrow saddle.
Ian Fisher I’m still deciding whether to get the Brooks B17 imperial or the Ergon ST Core Prime. I will be riding all day around 10hrs a day for my work and most probably 6 days a week.
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Biking seems to be the only situation where non-Dutch people believe that a _comfortable default position_ entails to support their body weight with their hands. That's kinda a funny and strange bias. Even more so, when we already have distributed the weight between the butt and feet (unless running extremely sportive with clip pedals). Who would ever consider distributing weight to the hands for comfort when sitting on a chair or sofa? IMHO, that just shows how terrible modern bicycle saddles are when it comes to comfort.
What bike is that in the review??
The one you started with
I have the wide Bontrager pedals with the studs and they are great. I f you are riding an ebike without good shoes you are about as silly as a person riding a motorcycle with flimsy shoes. You should give yourself the best possible shoes for control and comfort otherwise just pick another past time activity. But I highly recommend the studded wider pedal for daily commuting and this from a guy that rode clip on and toe cage for many years.
This video is SO helpful (I'm a complete newbie!). I am looking at e-bikes, and I live in Mexico!! Can you tell me anything about Mexican brands?
I switched to a Hobson Easyseat back in the nineties & I've never gone back. The original hard rubber seat lets my hip bones sit right on the cushion & have full control of balance. The pads also move, allowing for leg movement. I've tried their pro version but still prefer the cheap one & use it on all my bikes. People ask me about it all the time. It does take some getting used to but it was designed by a doctor & it's much better for you.
Excellent video thanks. I ride my Tern HSD S8i with the Shimano M324 pedals so I can ride clipped in or not. I’m still setting up my riding position so I echo the comments made in this video.
sore back if Im force to ride over a big bump, I just lift my butt up some for my body weight not fully on the seat to lessen the impact shock.. now if the seat all the way back on the post, you'll feel the hit more, the ratio and leverage from rear axel to seat clamp, shorter distance harder the hit.. Remember to lift off weight off seat or lean forward.
• bar and stem I like a short center to center stem steer tube to bar, faster response to make the cockpit longer raiser bar twist forward or ahead of stem center out performance a longer stem, if stem to long turning corners has a slow and long wide feel.
as I steer using my knee same as if riding look mom no hands. Now if doing a wheelie I use my neck wheel control off ground, balancing act.
• snow days nice fresh powdered 4-6" or 80-140mm thin tires cuts right into it, now rubber on pavement, BMX or tall bars, I case the front washes out, the height I have now, more time to react and adds distance away from the stem, or get studded tires
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just bought a stem riser (aka steerer extender) for my new ebike due to neck problems that don't allow me to cran my neck up... hoping I don't need to buy other handlebars.
Great informative video, rode Harleys over 100,000 miles now I'm enjoying my E Bike because of the exercise factor . I'm 76 in good/fair shape. Normally I would take hour walks now it's 2 on the bike here in California.
Very Helpfull thanks and greetings from Vienna.
Thanks Wolfgang! Glad you enjoyed. I look forward to visiting Vienna one day
I have a trek marlin 6 that I’m currently converting to an e-bike but it’s positioning me too far forward for what I want because I can’t see my surroundings as easily. What would you recommend to adjust that?
Good evening: I recently bought one of the first R&M bikes sold in Chile, the Supercharger and it's a wonderful eBike. Do you have any advice for a mirror that has a minimum of vibrations while riding?
I've got multiple seats laying around and still not getting a good seat! Yes I know you can get shorts with gel built in. That's great if you like feeling like you shit your pants.
I have the pedals with the sandpaper grip, and cork Ergon seat & grips. Royal Dutch Gazelle Medio T10.
Also consider your neck.. so many people don't have the right weight distribution to stay in a healthy position..
This is a great video,
I have arthritis in my thumbs. Do you have a suggestion for what type of Ergo-grip would help?
You didn't mention anything about the pitch of the saddle. Do you have any advice about adjusting the pitch of the saddle (tilt forward and backward)?
Great video. If I may ask, what model/brand of the bike in this video you ride, clearly not the cargo but the other one?
I watch and listen to a lot of videos on bike equipment and safety - THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE EVER SEEN. Thanks
Start with a recumbent.
Excellent as always. I recently purchased a Moustache Samedi Tandem your review certainly played a part in my purchase . I want to change some things saddles pedals also cut the width of the bars they are way to wide any advice of how much I should cut off also suspension i would like to stiffen what would be a safe pressure limit. Most of our cycling is on roads and occasional cycle paths any advice would be most welcome.
What category would you label a Brooks B67 Aged Leather Saddle? thanks I use that I am a heavy rider and upright as well thanks again
Some good performance to price products so often esp with stores you only get the super high end stuff in videos
Yes, thanks for posting! Just started the video, but I have boney ass and don't stand up to pedal anymore. Help?
Where do i buy the ergotec handlebar?
We usually recommend looking for a European retailer
If you need to higher your bars more than a couple of inches you will need to lengthen your cables also
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Wide-stance crank arms, e.g., on Bacou eBikes. Also good for people that have wider hips.