IMPORTANT: I recorded the this BEFORE Riot decided to lobotomize Viper. Safe to say that Brimstone is definitely not being outperformed by her anymore.
Ngl viper in low elo feels underwhelming nvm underwhelmings an understatement its a 3v5 moment viper locks in fucks teammates and well she's like me go viper me rush
Stim beacon is literally goated. Use it to fast push site, or use it to fast peek a corner the enemy wont expect. A bad brimstone obviously won’t know how to utilize it but it has some serious value that people sleep on. The amount of site pushes i’ve with with it is insane.
As Brim main, I love balance he has. Stim is still very under apreciated and misunderstood by many. Only thing he could get buffed is take his 8 points for ult down to 7 or even 6.
This man really said 6, do you realize how op of a space maker that ult is, putting it at the same ult charge count as phoenix or cypher will make him more prioritized for ult orbs over phoenix
I'm the brim main who utilizes Stim at the best suited scenario, quicker rotations, getting in and out of site after a safe plant, and sometimes to even grab a gun thats farther from you and the round has ended and you don't have enough time to go grab the gun. Generally, its brilliant in eco rounds when pushing with short range guns and phenomenal with phantom/ odin/ or short range guns on the defense. People just are bad at brimstone.
A stimbeacon is strong on rotating, against snipers or using as a rush-push with specters etc. Its not strong for every situation with any people, but can throw just enough speed in for a round changer.
I remember the week of stim beacon meta. He still had two and they added the speed buff which made it insanely good for team pushing and beating timings. And then it got gutted a week or two later, like they didn't allow for a Brimstone meta at all it was sad.
the stim beacon reminds me of how finka was in r6, had the exact same problem but then they reworked her similar to what you suggested, i think a stim beacon should heal for 25 hp and give overshield just so the brim doesn't feel guilty for using it for only 1 person when there are multiple
The steam beacon is his best abilitly low key, better fire rate, quicker retakes, faster rotations, you can even reposition/back away faster, speed boosts are huge
I personally love thr stim beacon (late to party since viper got shafted and Omen lost his oneways) cus i like to use it for myself or my team and go into gun fightd and say "i/we won that because of the stim beacon" its a running gag with me and my bf
His stim should just increase speed on a straight line, kinda like Neon's wall but speeds up allies within range instead of a smoke. This would make him good at rotating with allies
Honeslty brim's stim beacon is good its just that no one knows how to use it. The fire rate and movement speed increase is really good for your team when pushing a site and it's good to use when you need to hold a specific spot
The stim beacon could be used to give all teammates a 50% recharge speed bonus on abilities, like if vyse has 45s to flash while inside she can shave off 20s in 10s
I think he needs 1-2 rechargable smokes, and reduced DPS on the molly, its very overpowered tbh, if you're in a corner and you watch it drop, if you try to get out you'll still end up dead
Stim Beacon is good with the right weapon at hand. E.g. you face an enemy odin but you play Brim with Ares. That stim would give you a duel advantage. This also allow you and your team to entry faster if they don't have much mobility like Jett, Raze, or Neon. You can use it for entry or retake, as well as site hold
honestly? give him another or maybe 2. 4-5 smokes would make him actually feel not terrible to use on maps like breeze & pearl, and it would actually make him unique in a fun way as he could put down more than 3 smokes at a time for some goofy plays at a high level.
I was thinking it makes whoever steps in the stim takes less damage. Theres already military usage of stuffs that numbs pain, so it fits with brim's concept, and it would make him really unique with the only skill increasing resistance too
I treat brimstone as a saver agent, just either a stinger or spectre (judge, bucky or shorty is fine as well), place the smoke just right so they can't expect you, place the stim beacon and start your onslaught of run and gun
The thing with brimstone is that he’s insanely good on fracture and bind, and not really on maps where omen/viper/astra would be more meta. If you nerf brimstone, he won’t get play on his good maps, if you buff him, he would be too good on his maps.
Proper use of Stim Beacon is thinking that it's a small domain expansion. I Always get 2-3 kills on SPLIT when camping on B Site entrance when enemies decide to aggro.
Need 2 stim beacons so that the effect actually matters. It has such a niche effect if they just gave him 2 like before but kept the buffs to it I think you could just throw it out more often and see more benefit out of it. Don't like that his signature ability doesn't recharge. 3 smokes on start is just an arbitrary thing, otherwise its inconsistent with other signatures that recharge. I'd rather have his stim be his signature and have that recharge than get a free smoke and no recharge.
The fire rate increase fucks me up so much, that's why when I play Reyna I don't ult the only good thing about combat stims are the reload speed and the movement speed increase.
I would give brim 2 stim beacons, make it give u back a little bit of health BUT NO BONUS (if vandal cannot oneshot in the head this game just dies kind of) but it might give u back like, maybe 20/30 HP and it lingers for let's say 5 seconds after u leave, also, we remove the faster firing but give him something like 50% reload speed, and it lingers too, would be good for fast pushes or getting out of site after a plant and resting I would even think about making a steam beacon one charge but it can regenerate the shield but about 50 HP of the shield for the entire team, so u can make one of your teammates full shields back or give everyone some when they all stand in it One of those would be great tbh
I think Brim is in a good spot. Not over or underpowered and will always be a decent choice on any map. And I don’t know if it has to do with how me and my friends play, but stim is so good once I actually used it. Need to rotate fast? Stim. Need to retake site but no one has until left? Stim and push on together. Gonna get killed by spike? Stim. It’s faster fire rate is odd, but if you try to experiment on the stim, it’s actually incredibly handy (especially pistol, and I throw it for a teammate with a shorty running into my smokes).
Nah, the stim beacon is overpowered. It makes you shoot the first bullet faster. When strafing it gives a massive advantage. You can even just spray with it it usually ends up working someway
Nah bro, the stim beacon is the most underrated ability. If your team goes odin, and stim beacon was thrown out, you're probably dead. And it is pretty good if you're in a tough position, and you need to swing them or you're dead, you can just throw a stim beacon and wide swing them as it increases your movement speed which could increase your chance to win the duel. It is pretty situational.
I didn't even know the stim beacon mess with the fire rate (probably that's why my teammates usually lose their duel with this stim buff) devs should remove this effect and buff the speed boost instead, perhaps give a longer duration.
To be honest, the stim should just up your damage instead of giving you increased fire rate, like making tthe vandal 3 bpdy shots to kill rather than 4
they would never give brimstone a smoke for every two kills that is just a duelist thing the could make it where they come overtime Tho like a 20 cooldown for each smoke
Either give brim a second stim or a lil HP like you said. Still miss the days of brimmy with a stimmy
As an Odin spammer I still love his stimmy, or for being ratty with a bucky in smokes
Fuck no, a little hp will mean he’d win a 50 50 gun fight if both hit headshot with vandal
@@ProdyfiOri I’m not saying the HP will exceed the 150 limit lol
Brim had a 2nd stim before riot removed it but stim is really good for entering sites for retake or rotating
Every brim main remembers 4.05
IMPORTANT: I recorded the this BEFORE Riot decided to lobotomize Viper. Safe to say that Brimstone is definitely not being outperformed by her anymore.
I still think it’s important to mention how he’s not that good and worse than harbor or viper on breeze or icebox, which are both in rotation
Nah she still outperforms him lol
“Lobotomize viper” is f•cking wild
Ngl viper in low elo feels underwhelming nvm underwhelmings an understatement its a 3v5 moment viper locks in fucks teammates and well she's like me go viper me rush
Viper is still 100% outperforming brim. I am quite confident she will still be 1# most picked in tournaments.
thrash with the stim beacon:
just a cool combo y'know
And brim ult too
Thrash is pretty much Brim's bestfriend
nah the stim give the boombot crazy trajectory like it moves in diagonals
@@saubhadrsamod1040 get that shit bot that have 100dmg away from me
Damn I didn't know stim interacts with Thrash
“You are dead!” - Heavy Weapons Guy
I thought that heavy was dead?!
Stim beacon is literally goated. Use it to fast push site, or use it to fast peek a corner the enemy wont expect. A bad brimstone obviously won’t know how to utilize it but it has some serious value that people sleep on. The amount of site pushes i’ve with with it is insane.
True, five man rush under a beacon is scary af, plus, it pairs well with abilities like gekko ult and skye dog
@@ylitkovodwhat I love doing is abusing the heck out of it and lmgs
not to mention a stimmed up neon and raze jumping at you with shotguns paired with insta smokes all on site it can be a nightmare
As Brim main, I love balance he has. Stim is still very under apreciated and misunderstood by many. Only thing he could get buffed is take his 8 points for ult down to 7 or even 6.
This man really said 6, do you realize how op of a space maker that ult is, putting it at the same ult charge count as phoenix or cypher will make him more prioritized for ult orbs over phoenix
6 😭😭
@@mr.neative3613 abt to say
6 charge brimstone oh god
You really wanna roast your enemies a lot with that 6 ult orb suggestion
0:28 i laughed so hard😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I do like the temporary health idea. I was thinking it might be broken on pistol round, but if it doesn't last for very long, it should be fine.
See I thought it would be kinda crazy, then I remembered they released an agent who unironically can revive in a 1v1 post plant situation, so 😭😭
I'm the brim main who utilizes Stim at the best suited scenario, quicker rotations, getting in and out of site after a safe plant, and sometimes to even grab a gun thats farther from you and the round has ended and you don't have enough time to go grab the gun. Generally, its brilliant in eco rounds when pushing with short range guns and phenomenal with phantom/ odin/ or short range guns on the defense. People just are bad at brimstone.
the only time i use the beacon is to escape the spike explosion
truly the utility of all time
Me, a raze main, using satchels to run away from spike instead of entrying for team:
A guy in a unranked match suggested that getting kills should shorten your cooldowns by a small amount. Not just for brim.
Oh, or even the stim overcharges your shield and adds 50 or 25 to it.
A stimbeacon is strong on rotating, against snipers or using as a rush-push with specters etc. Its not strong for every situation with any people, but can throw just enough speed in for a round changer.
throwback to the 5 frenzy stimmy round1 meme buy
I remember the week of stim beacon meta. He still had two and they added the speed buff which made it insanely good for team pushing and beating timings. And then it got gutted a week or two later, like they didn't allow for a Brimstone meta at all it was sad.
Solution to the stim beacon underperformance: get an Odin like Brim does in his splash.
I just like the fact that people are brushing off the fact that brim has a fucking orbital canon on standby for use whenever he want
They should add damage reduction when you or your team is inside your stim beacon like real life morephine as a stimulant to reduce pain
fun fact- brimstone is voiced by the same guy who voiced starscream from transformers
Stim beacon with stinger is fucking amazing
Real ones remember the brim double stim meta where you would use 2 stim at once to over boost everyone in your team and nothing could stop you.
the stim beacon reminds me of how finka was in r6, had the exact same problem but then they reworked her similar to what you suggested, i think a stim beacon should heal for 25 hp and give overshield just so the brim doesn't feel guilty for using it for only 1 person when there are multiple
I am someone who loves close-range engagements so the stim is smth I absolutely love.
"the stim beacon is probably the worst hability in the game"
bro forgot about the Deadlock's grenade (like everyone)
The stim is nuts for stinger plays, it's so fun
Stim beacon is great for teams that are used to it.
Would be better if the stim beacon reduces movement inaccuracy a bit
Me that's watching it now: they did the thing!!!!😂
The steam beacon is his best abilitly low key, better fire rate, quicker retakes, faster rotations, you can even reposition/back away faster, speed boosts are huge
The Stim beacon should only give a movement speed buff and should have a bigger area
nah, stim beacon is goated, he needs to drop more smokes to keep up with every other smoke agent..
Still, who let that old man get away from the nursing home
“Help that old man find his grave”
@@Brooksy_Val I forgot who's voiceline this was
I personally love thr stim beacon (late to party since viper got shafted and Omen lost his oneways) cus i like to use it for myself or my team and go into gun fightd and say "i/we won that because of the stim beacon" its a running gag with me and my bf
His stim should just increase speed on a straight line, kinda like Neon's wall but speeds up allies within range instead of a smoke. This would make him good at rotating with allies
Ok I thought I was the only one who forgot the stimulus beacon existed when playing 😂
Honeslty brim's stim beacon is good its just that no one knows how to use it. The fire rate and movement speed increase is really good for your team when pushing a site and it's good to use when you need to hold a specific spot
The stim beacon could be used to give all teammates a 50% recharge speed bonus on abilities, like if vyse has 45s to flash while inside she can shave off 20s in 10s
I think he needs 1-2 rechargable smokes, and reduced DPS on the molly, its very overpowered tbh, if you're in a corner and you watch it drop, if you try to get out you'll still end up dead
He also has the longest lasting smoke,if you want to buff anything make it his combat beacon/stim,make it last longer or something
Stim Beacon is good with the right weapon at hand.
E.g. you face an enemy odin but you play Brim with Ares. That stim would give you a duel advantage.
This also allow you and your team to entry faster if they don't have much mobility like Jett, Raze, or Neon. You can use it for entry or retake, as well as site hold
Am I the only one who saw him waste his ult in the last few seconds of the video?
Brim really needs a way to recharge his smokes tbh
exactly
honestly? give him another or maybe 2. 4-5 smokes would make him actually feel not terrible to use on maps like breeze & pearl, and it would actually make him unique in a fun way as he could put down more than 3 smokes at a time for some goofy plays at a high level.
Yeah even with three smokes it’s difficult when he has zero rechargeable abilities
I was thinking it makes whoever steps in the stim takes less damage. Theres already military usage of stuffs that numbs pain, so it fits with brim's concept, and it would make him really unique with the only skill increasing resistance too
I treat brimstone as a saver agent, just either a stinger or spectre (judge, bucky or shorty is fine as well), place the smoke just right so they can't expect you, place the stim beacon and start your onslaught of run and gun
I swear if the stim is placed the round is rather lost than won
Brim doesnt need a buff or nerf
Old man is the definition of balanced
Brim is balanced, only change that could be pretty good is maybe make him start with 2 smokes and his 3rd smoke costs 150/200
Stim and odin with the entire team is fun
i have never played valorant (or is this apex? i genuinely have no clue) but this is still an interesting video
I like the temporary health idea if it last likes clove c skill it should be fine
i would prefer buff on the stim
they fixed the stim beacon so now it doesnt mess with ur spray
The thing with brimstone is that he’s insanely good on fracture and bind, and not really on maps where omen/viper/astra would be more meta. If you nerf brimstone, he won’t get play on his good maps, if you buff him, he would be too good on his maps.
For the stim: Remove the fire rate bonus, and make the run speed bonus higher
just let the stim beacon activate on his back so he becomes a walking/running stim beacon
Stim Ares goes crazy 2nd round
Proper use of Stim Beacon is thinking that it's a small domain expansion. I Always get 2-3 kills on SPLIT when camping on B Site entrance when enemies decide to aggro.
stim beacon slowly heals for a total of 15-30 hp
Steam beacon is a Reyna ultimate, so it’s powerful, people don’t how to shoot with faster fire rate in low Elo
“Brimstones not a healer” well clove isn’t a duelist but nobody told her that😂
Need 2 stim beacons so that the effect actually matters. It has such a niche effect if they just gave him 2 like before but kept the buffs to it I think you could just throw it out more often and see more benefit out of it. Don't like that his signature ability doesn't recharge. 3 smokes on start is just an arbitrary thing, otherwise its inconsistent with other signatures that recharge. I'd rather have his stim be his signature and have that recharge than get a free smoke and no recharge.
The fire rate increase fucks me up so much, that's why when I play Reyna I don't ult the only good thing about combat stims are the reload speed and the movement speed increase.
Bro need that 25 Temporary HP like you said and an Extra Smoke per 2 Kill . The reason i'm Omen Main ( Second to Cypher ) is bcs of his cooldown Smoke
I would give brim 2 stim beacons, make it give u back a little bit of health BUT NO BONUS (if vandal cannot oneshot in the head this game just dies kind of) but it might give u back like, maybe 20/30 HP and it lingers for let's say 5 seconds after u leave, also, we remove the faster firing but give him something like 50% reload speed, and it lingers too, would be good for fast pushes or getting out of site after a plant and resting
I would even think about making a steam beacon one charge but it can regenerate the shield but about 50 HP of the shield for the entire team, so u can make one of your teammates full shields back or give everyone some when they all stand in it
One of those would be great tbh
i would do that his stim beacon helps u reload 25% or so faster
the stim should let you plant/defuse spike faster
When i first started, i thought brims stim beacon was a healing item 😭😭😭
I've been playing the game for a long time and never knew that brimmies stimmy gives you an increase in firerate lol
The stim beacon is a mini Reyna ult too op
I love brims stim. Give it a movement buff.
Agree with a lot nade and ult top peak but stim underused and smoke would like SOME way of getting one back
I use the steam beacon as a bait, where the opponent thinks im around it but not there in reality
stim beacon plus reyna ult with an odin or an op is kinda funny
I think Brim is in a good spot. Not over or underpowered and will always be a decent choice on any map.
And I don’t know if it has to do with how me and my friends play, but stim is so good once I actually used it.
Need to rotate fast? Stim. Need to retake site but no one has until left? Stim and push on together. Gonna get killed by spike? Stim.
It’s faster fire rate is odd, but if you try to experiment on the stim, it’s actually incredibly handy (especially pistol, and I throw it for a teammate with a shorty running into my smokes).
I use the stim beacon to rotate faster instead of using it for gunfights
Brim’s ult’s size should be multiplied by a dozen, only on the Nagasaki map.
His stim is actually quite nice with specter and phantom but maybe that’s just me.
I have a good idea,make his smokes rechargeable but don't give him a single free smoke and give a free stim
Maybe make his steam to a trap that only scans the enemy
Nah, the stim beacon is overpowered. It makes you shoot the first bullet faster. When strafing it gives a massive advantage. You can even just spray with it it usually ends up working someway
Nah bro, the stim beacon is the most underrated ability. If your team goes odin, and stim beacon was thrown out, you're probably dead. And it is pretty good if you're in a tough position, and you need to swing them or you're dead, you can just throw a stim beacon and wide swing them as it increases your movement speed which could increase your chance to win the duel. It is pretty situational.
Maybe instead of health or fire rate may it could give more speed like a 1.5× boost on the speed.
stim beac should give hp and longer affect time
I’m a brim main and i besides the fact that his stim is weak , his ult is also useless unless the enemies are pinned they can simply just run out
BRUH JUST ULTED HIS SKYE
I didn't even know the stim beacon mess with the fire rate (probably that's why my teammates usually lose their duel with this stim buff) devs should remove this effect and buff the speed boost instead, perhaps give a longer duration.
Stim beacon just needs additional duration
maybe his steam beacon can provide some kind of lifesteal or heal just like soldier 76 from ow
Do breach next, there just like 10 people who actually main him, and i am one of them 😅
To be honest, the stim should just up your damage instead of giving you increased fire rate, like making tthe vandal 3 bpdy shots to kill rather than 4
- wait viper and omen aren't new?
oh that clove thing is they
Temporary health sounds kinda wack. But yes stim beacon needs buff, i hope they go ack to 2 like the old days
it would be cool if brim got a stim that healed him
Most people don't know how to use the stim beacon
When I used to play I never used stim, always forgot about it
that ult at the end T_T
they would never give brimstone a smoke for every two kills that is just a duelist thing the could make it where they come overtime Tho like a 20 cooldown for each smoke
The only thing I would love a buff to Brimstone is that his range of casting smoke should be wider
The Stim beacon should give you Increased spread Accuracy and Reduced muzzle climb instead
he do has 3 smokes BUT compare to other controller, his smokes dont rechardge. He and Viper really need some rework/buff
Personally I would say swap the stimmy for a flash that operates like his smokes for some FBI OPEN UP action