IMPORTANT: I recorded the this BEFORE Riot decided to lobotomize Viper. Safe to say that Brimstone is definitely not being outperformed by her anymore.
Ngl viper in low elo feels underwhelming nvm underwhelmings an understatement its a 3v5 moment viper locks in fucks teammates and well she's like me go viper me rush
Stim beacon is literally goated. Use it to fast push site, or use it to fast peek a corner the enemy wont expect. A bad brimstone obviously won’t know how to utilize it but it has some serious value that people sleep on. The amount of site pushes i’ve with with it is insane.
As Brim main, I love balance he has. Stim is still very under apreciated and misunderstood by many. Only thing he could get buffed is take his 8 points for ult down to 7 or even 6.
This man really said 6, do you realize how op of a space maker that ult is, putting it at the same ult charge count as phoenix or cypher will make him more prioritized for ult orbs over phoenix
A stimbeacon is strong on rotating, against snipers or using as a rush-push with specters etc. Its not strong for every situation with any people, but can throw just enough speed in for a round changer.
The stim beacon could be used to give all teammates a 50% recharge speed bonus on abilities, like if vyse has 45s to flash while inside she can shave off 20s in 10s
Honeslty brim's stim beacon is good its just that no one knows how to use it. The fire rate and movement speed increase is really good for your team when pushing a site and it's good to use when you need to hold a specific spot
The steam beacon is his best abilitly low key, better fire rate, quicker retakes, faster rotations, you can even reposition/back away faster, speed boosts are huge
Maybe the stim slowly regens health, up to max, like 2 a sec or something and lasts like clove heal, where it goes away after some time if the stim is broken or you walk away
I was thinking it makes whoever steps in the stim takes less damage. Theres already military usage of stuffs that numbs pain, so it fits with brim's concept, and it would make him really unique with the only skill increasing resistance too
His stim should just increase speed on a straight line, kinda like Neon's wall but speeds up allies within range instead of a smoke. This would make him good at rotating with allies
I treat brimstone as a saver agent, just either a stinger or spectre (judge, bucky or shorty is fine as well), place the smoke just right so they can't expect you, place the stim beacon and start your onslaught of run and gun
I personally love thr stim beacon (late to party since viper got shafted and Omen lost his oneways) cus i like to use it for myself or my team and go into gun fightd and say "i/we won that because of the stim beacon" its a running gag with me and my bf
I think Brim is in a good spot. Not over or underpowered and will always be a decent choice on any map. And I don’t know if it has to do with how me and my friends play, but stim is so good once I actually used it. Need to rotate fast? Stim. Need to retake site but no one has until left? Stim and push on together. Gonna get killed by spike? Stim. It’s faster fire rate is odd, but if you try to experiment on the stim, it’s actually incredibly handy (especially pistol, and I throw it for a teammate with a shorty running into my smokes).
Nah, the stim beacon is overpowered. It makes you shoot the first bullet faster. When strafing it gives a massive advantage. You can even just spray with it it usually ends up working someway
Need 2 stim beacons so that the effect actually matters. It has such a niche effect if they just gave him 2 like before but kept the buffs to it I think you could just throw it out more often and see more benefit out of it. Don't like that his signature ability doesn't recharge. 3 smokes on start is just an arbitrary thing, otherwise its inconsistent with other signatures that recharge. I'd rather have his stim be his signature and have that recharge than get a free smoke and no recharge.
Nah bro, the stim beacon is the most underrated ability. If your team goes odin, and stim beacon was thrown out, you're probably dead. And it is pretty good if you're in a tough position, and you need to swing them or you're dead, you can just throw a stim beacon and wide swing them as it increases your movement speed which could increase your chance to win the duel. It is pretty situational.
The fire rate increase fucks me up so much, that's why when I play Reyna I don't ult the only good thing about combat stims are the reload speed and the movement speed increase.
I didn't even know the stim beacon mess with the fire rate (probably that's why my teammates usually lose their duel with this stim buff) devs should remove this effect and buff the speed boost instead, perhaps give a longer duration.
There are a few reasons i dont like brim 1) his stim is very situational and many times doesn’t help 2) his smokes dont recharge so he has nothing to fall back on in like endgame 3) his molly isnt great because it can literally be pushed over
If it gave you 15 hyper-armour for 10 seconds it would be invaluable. In a sense that it gives you 15 armour even if you have 150 already so that in the end you get 165 effective health for like 7 seconds it would be a big nerf to Vandal. Finally.
I think a temporary 25 shield would be super nice but to make it more balanced have it be like a max 3 players so you don't have a 5 players running it down with classics and full shield on round 1
Or u coule take inspiration from the overwatch character baptiste And change the stimmy into some sort of immortality device where if u stay in the circle u get extra health that wont go away. But is would be breakable
Overhealth would break the game. Since everything is balanced around the 150 mark, having any HP above that could have infinite ramifications. 1 xtra hp = everyone survives op, 10 = 1 tap from phantom and 11 to survive vandal. It would just become a frustrating mechanic to go up against and no one would like to deal with it.
i think its supposed to replicate what starcraft stims do, which doesnt make that much sense imo, since most of the time, if you hit your shots it doesnt matter if you get stimmed
Yeah, I play brim and the stim is just slightly helpfull. Having more just makes for worse economy, heal? Doesn't seem right. I would say give him some long lasting deployable skill. Brim main flaw is that he has no reusable or long lasting effect, just give him that.
@@Tophat-Turtlenah. Omen would still be better. Same with viper. Brims main problem is his radius for smokes a 4th smoke will only help with a bit more stall on the site brim is on. Like basically every map that is somewhat large screws over brim.
Bro did not cook, all they need to make him balanced in the meta is to bring back fracture. He does his job as a beginner friendly smoker who leans towards the more explosive execution style of Valorant
Hear me out, just a suggestion: Brim has 3 smokes compared to other agents but he cannot regenerate them like other agents. So I'm thinking, for the sake of balance, he can regenerate only 1 smoke. Even if he buys all 3 smokes, once he uses them all, only 1 smoke is allowed just once more.
I mean i get your point but hey, brim's smokes are the ones who last longest in the ENTIRE game (18s) so im not sure if having his smokes regenerated a good idea
IMPORTANT: I recorded the this BEFORE Riot decided to lobotomize Viper. Safe to say that Brimstone is definitely not being outperformed by her anymore.
I still think it’s important to mention how he’s not that good and worse than harbor or viper on breeze or icebox, which are both in rotation
Nah she still outperforms him lol
“Lobotomize viper” is f•cking wild
Ngl viper in low elo feels underwhelming nvm underwhelmings an understatement its a 3v5 moment viper locks in fucks teammates and well she's like me go viper me rush
Viper is still 100% outperforming brim. I am quite confident she will still be 1# most picked in tournaments.
Either give brim a second stim or a lil HP like you said. Still miss the days of brimmy with a stimmy
As an Odin spammer I still love his stimmy, or for being ratty with a bucky in smokes
Fuck no, a little hp will mean he’d win a 50 50 gun fight if both hit headshot with vandal
@@ProdyfiOri I’m not saying the HP will exceed the 150 limit lol
Brim had a 2nd stim before riot removed it but stim is really good for entering sites for retake or rotating
Every brim main remembers 4.05
thrash with the stim beacon:
just a cool combo y'know
And brim ult too
Thrash is pretty much Brim's bestfriend
nah the stim give the boombot crazy trajectory like it moves in diagonals
@@saubhadrsamod1040 get that shit bot that have 100dmg away from me
Damn I didn't know stim interacts with Thrash
Stim beacon is literally goated. Use it to fast push site, or use it to fast peek a corner the enemy wont expect. A bad brimstone obviously won’t know how to utilize it but it has some serious value that people sleep on. The amount of site pushes i’ve with with it is insane.
0:28 i laughed so hard😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I do like the temporary health idea. I was thinking it might be broken on pistol round, but if it doesn't last for very long, it should be fine.
See I thought it would be kinda crazy, then I remembered they released an agent who unironically can revive in a 1v1 post plant situation, so 😭😭
As Brim main, I love balance he has. Stim is still very under apreciated and misunderstood by many. Only thing he could get buffed is take his 8 points for ult down to 7 or even 6.
This man really said 6, do you realize how op of a space maker that ult is, putting it at the same ult charge count as phoenix or cypher will make him more prioritized for ult orbs over phoenix
6 😭😭
@@mr.neative3613 abt to say
6 charge brimstone oh god
You really wanna roast your enemies a lot with that 6 ult orb suggestion
“You are dead!” - Heavy Weapons Guy
I thought that heavy was dead?!
A stimbeacon is strong on rotating, against snipers or using as a rush-push with specters etc. Its not strong for every situation with any people, but can throw just enough speed in for a round changer.
The stim beacon could be used to give all teammates a 50% recharge speed bonus on abilities, like if vyse has 45s to flash while inside she can shave off 20s in 10s
the only time i use the beacon is to escape the spike explosion
truly the utility of all time
Me, a raze main, using satchels to run away from spike instead of entrying for team:
throwback to the 5 frenzy stimmy round1 meme buy
I am someone who loves close-range engagements so the stim is smth I absolutely love.
Honeslty brim's stim beacon is good its just that no one knows how to use it. The fire rate and movement speed increase is really good for your team when pushing a site and it's good to use when you need to hold a specific spot
The stim is nuts for stinger plays, it's so fun
The steam beacon is his best abilitly low key, better fire rate, quicker retakes, faster rotations, you can even reposition/back away faster, speed boosts are huge
He also has the longest lasting smoke,if you want to buff anything make it his combat beacon/stim,make it last longer or something
Maybe the stim slowly regens health, up to max, like 2 a sec or something and lasts like clove heal, where it goes away after some time if the stim is broken or you walk away
I was thinking it makes whoever steps in the stim takes less damage. Theres already military usage of stuffs that numbs pain, so it fits with brim's concept, and it would make him really unique with the only skill increasing resistance too
His stim should just increase speed on a straight line, kinda like Neon's wall but speeds up allies within range instead of a smoke. This would make him good at rotating with allies
Agree with a lot nade and ult top peak but stim underused and smoke would like SOME way of getting one back
I treat brimstone as a saver agent, just either a stinger or spectre (judge, bucky or shorty is fine as well), place the smoke just right so they can't expect you, place the stim beacon and start your onslaught of run and gun
Stim beacon is great for teams that are used to it.
I personally love thr stim beacon (late to party since viper got shafted and Omen lost his oneways) cus i like to use it for myself or my team and go into gun fightd and say "i/we won that because of the stim beacon" its a running gag with me and my bf
I like the temporary health idea if it last likes clove c skill it should be fine
I think Brim is in a good spot. Not over or underpowered and will always be a decent choice on any map.
And I don’t know if it has to do with how me and my friends play, but stim is so good once I actually used it.
Need to rotate fast? Stim. Need to retake site but no one has until left? Stim and push on together. Gonna get killed by spike? Stim.
It’s faster fire rate is odd, but if you try to experiment on the stim, it’s actually incredibly handy (especially pistol, and I throw it for a teammate with a shorty running into my smokes).
Stim and odin with the entire team is fun
The stim beacon is a mini Reyna ult too op
Stim Ares goes crazy 2nd round
Nah, the stim beacon is overpowered. It makes you shoot the first bullet faster. When strafing it gives a massive advantage. You can even just spray with it it usually ends up working someway
I use the steam beacon as a bait, where the opponent thinks im around it but not there in reality
For the stim: Remove the fire rate bonus, and make the run speed bonus higher
Need 2 stim beacons so that the effect actually matters. It has such a niche effect if they just gave him 2 like before but kept the buffs to it I think you could just throw it out more often and see more benefit out of it. Don't like that his signature ability doesn't recharge. 3 smokes on start is just an arbitrary thing, otherwise its inconsistent with other signatures that recharge. I'd rather have his stim be his signature and have that recharge than get a free smoke and no recharge.
I love brims stim. Give it a movement buff.
Steam beacon is a Reyna ultimate, so it’s powerful, people don’t how to shoot with faster fire rate in low Elo
Nah bro, the stim beacon is the most underrated ability. If your team goes odin, and stim beacon was thrown out, you're probably dead. And it is pretty good if you're in a tough position, and you need to swing them or you're dead, you can just throw a stim beacon and wide swing them as it increases your movement speed which could increase your chance to win the duel. It is pretty situational.
Real ones remember the brim double stim meta where you would use 2 stim at once to over boost everyone in your team and nothing could stop you.
When I used to play I never used stim, always forgot about it
I’m a brim main and i besides the fact that his stim is weak , his ult is also useless unless the enemies are pinned they can simply just run out
The fire rate increase fucks me up so much, that's why when I play Reyna I don't ult the only good thing about combat stims are the reload speed and the movement speed increase.
just let the stim beacon activate on his back so he becomes a walking/running stim beacon
i use the stim beacon for fast rotate
"the stim beacon is probably the worst hability in the game"
bro forgot about the Deadlock's grenade (like everyone)
I didn't even know the stim beacon mess with the fire rate (probably that's why my teammates usually lose their duel with this stim buff) devs should remove this effect and buff the speed boost instead, perhaps give a longer duration.
Maybe instead of health or fire rate may it could give more speed like a 1.5× boost on the speed.
maybe his steam beacon can provide some kind of lifesteal or heal just like soldier 76 from ow
There are a few reasons i dont like brim
1) his stim is very situational and many times doesn’t help
2) his smokes dont recharge so he has nothing to fall back on in like endgame
3) his molly isnt great because it can literally be pushed over
I climbed to immortal using brim only. I guess it depends on how you use brim (or any agent).
Brim doesnt need a buff or nerf
Old man is the definition of balanced
His stim is actually quite nice with specter and phantom but maybe that’s just me.
I just like the fact that people are brushing off the fact that brim has a fucking orbital canon on standby for use whenever he want
If it gave you 15 hyper-armour for 10 seconds it would be invaluable. In a sense that it gives you 15 armour even if you have 150 already so that in the end you get 165 effective health for like 7 seconds it would be a big nerf to Vandal. Finally.
the stim should let you plant/defuse spike faster
I think a temporary 25 shield would be super nice but to make it more balanced have it be like a max 3 players so you don't have a 5 players running it down with classics and full shield on round 1
Maybe reduce recoil or spread
stim beacon plus reyna ult with an odin or an op is kinda funny
Temporary health sounds kinda wack. But yes stim beacon needs buff, i hope they go ack to 2 like the old days
I never knew that stim increases fire rate (and I forget everytime this ability too)
The Stim beacon should give you Increased spread Accuracy and Reduced muzzle climb instead
I use the stim beacon to help my team rotate faster
The only thing I would love a buff to Brimstone is that his range of casting smoke should be wider
Brim’s ult’s size should be multiplied by a dozen, only on the Nagasaki map.
Or u coule take inspiration from the overwatch character baptiste
And change the stimmy into some sort of immortality device where if u stay in the circle u get extra health that wont go away. But is would be breakable
brim ult radius should be increase by 10m
Overhealth would break the game. Since everything is balanced around the 150 mark, having any HP above that could have infinite ramifications. 1 xtra hp = everyone survives op, 10 = 1 tap from phantom and 11 to survive vandal. It would just become a frustrating mechanic to go up against and no one would like to deal with it.
Keep the stim the way it is and just add the health boost. Like some other games or like a COD stim yk?
I swear if the stim is placed the round is rather lost than won
Stim beacon just needs additional duration
I am bro's 1000th like LES GOO
Anyways pin?
it would be cool if brim got a stim that healed him
i think its supposed to replicate what starcraft stims do, which doesnt make that much sense imo, since most of the time, if you hit your shots it doesnt matter if you get stimmed
Yeah, I play brim and the stim is just slightly helpfull. Having more just makes for worse economy, heal? Doesn't seem right. I would say give him some long lasting deployable skill. Brim main flaw is that he has no reusable or long lasting effect, just give him that.
I would like to buy more smokes like 4 and making them a bit bigger
Too op.
@@Tophat-Turtlenah. Omen would still be better. Same with viper. Brims main problem is his radius for smokes a 4th smoke will only help with a bit more stall on the site brim is on. Like basically every map that is somewhat large screws over brim.
Stim imo is for faster rotates
How about change the stim beacon to a damage reduction buff?
I've been playing the game for a long time and never knew that brimmies stimmy gives you an increase in firerate lol
I find it kind of strange how was stem beacon that supposed to stimulate the person shoots the gun faster somehow?
OPEN UP THE SKY!!
I have a good idea,make his smokes rechargeable but don't give him a single free smoke and give a free stim
Still, who let that old man get away from the nursing home
“Help that old man find his grave”
@@Brooksy_Val I forgot who's voiceline this was
Controller main tip Use Phantom when playing Brimstone because of the steam beacon 👍🏻
The thing is...
Brim is in a """healthy""" spot.
It is one nerf away from being horrendous, but right now it is okay.
Stim beacon good with spectre and stinger ong
Personally I would say swap the stimmy for a flash that operates like his smokes for some FBI OPEN UP action
that ult at the end T_T
Ok I thought I was the only one who forgot the stimulus beacon existed when playing 😂
or the stim acts adds armor, make much more sense to me like Rook in R6S
I think we should nerf miner actually
Lmao what arena you in? I’m in 21
@@vealamazed 18
Stim + Reyna Ult + Neon + Thrash 🗿
Thank god riot is in charge of agents(sometimes[viper😢])
Bro did not cook, all they need to make him balanced in the meta is to bring back fracture. He does his job as a beginner friendly smoker who leans towards the more explosive execution style of Valorant
well brim should atleast get 1 smoke recharge after like 45 seconds which is substantial amount of time
was that a brimstone entry on sunset
BRUH JUST ULTED HIS SKYE
Hear me out, just a suggestion:
Brim has 3 smokes compared to other agents but he cannot regenerate them like other agents.
So I'm thinking, for the sake of balance, he can regenerate only 1 smoke.
Even if he buys all 3 smokes, once he uses them all, only 1 smoke is allowed just once more.
I mean i get your point but hey, brim's smokes are the ones who last longest in the ENTIRE game (18s) so im not sure if having his smokes regenerated a good idea
brim is the only agent with no rechargeable utilities... i think riot needs to give hime rechargeable smoke... and some stim buff
Do breach next, there just like 10 people who actually main him, and i am one of them 😅
brim is perfectly fine, if they wanna nerf viper for no reason they better not touch the other good smoker
stim beacon for the AoE Clove Q
Maybe stim can increase damage instead? Like in a spike rush, Imagine one tap marshall 💀
Bring back his 2nd stimmy