JameelahTV I swear everyone got that one family member that makes you just detached from the whole family.😂 Mine is my brother, I didn’t even go to his kid baby shower or birth of his child. Him and my mother were my first bullies.
Yes. I think he and Toni are back to back in age so he's close to her. She knew what he would do and that he was not at the baby christening. She knows her brother.
@@Hotwingzlover84 hate seems pretty accurate. Hate is the opposite to love. You have to have love for something in order to hate it. They’re two sides of the same coin. The opposite of that would be indifference.
Stacy Robinson I luv when he said when I went to Florida State University and got my degree in Economics they didn't teach me nothin bout bein no therapist BUT..... Oh that is my fave
My 35yo old husband comes from a family that ONLY lives by the "Respect Your Elders" mentally. They've used this privilege to get away with abuse. It's a narcissitic behavior and a generational curse.
Yes, unfortunately the dynamic is like that in my family. And I see how it breaks my adult niece down when dealing with her mom, my older sister. I want her to break that chain and tell her mom she is not going to play by her rules.
Traci’s not the bastard child. Traci is the only sister that maintained a relationship with their father regardless of Ms. E’s feelings. I think the sisters resent her for that. He is actually a part of her life.
Ms. Evelyn is full of bitterness and she won’t let go that her ex husband cheated on her. She need to free herself from the hurt and needs to forgive that man so she can move on
iesh dunk That maybe true but I just want to throw this in the pot.I can relate to Ms.Evelyn because I’ve been there.Yes,She probably is bitter and I think I know why.Things are different for women now.You young women now don’t look at marriage and having a family nowadays the way it was looked at back back in the day.And add on that Ms.Ev was the First Lady so to speak at the Church.So that compounds how she looked at being married.She was young and pretty much gave her life to her husband and her family.She believed that you take care of your husband and your family and your husband will take care of you.Well,He didn’t do that and he’s a man he’s not perfect.She gave him all those years of her life and he walked away with another woman.Hell,She ain’t 20 no more and she’s left with her children and that’s all she has to show for her life.And he can walk off in the sunset and start a new life.And then you are suppose to deal with him coming around and acting like everything is alright.Thats hard and it’s a lot to ask of someone.See y’all are use to this type of thing.Men having children with women and not being in a relationship.So it’s nothing for people to except this nowadays.But,Back then that wasn’t seen as normal and something you just except(not that it should be ever)Yes,She does at this point need to get over it but she’s stuck in her emotions.
mama Braxton show's us that divorce isn't easy. Heartbreak can be deep! Men don't just leave woman, they leave the children aswell.Just because divorce alot shouldn't doesn't mean it's easy.
Kim Wright I understand marriage and I have been married for 10 years. My values are somewhat old school. But the break down of their marriage was not in the 50’s, 60’s,70’s, when woman had a rough time acquiring jobs or assistance. They divorced many years ago. They proclaim to be Christians so where is the forgiveness. I understand being embarrassed by being the 1st lady of the church but when do you let go? When do you move on? When does she become strong instead of “acting” strong? To me Ms. E doesn’t portray strength. She portrays hurt, misery and tension. I would be hurt by the betrayal but I would move on for my own sanity
I peeped that Traci was the only one who fools with the daddy. The momma got them involved in the divorce and made them pick sides. Traci chose daddy they chose momma
Yeah, that is something they won't deal with. Tracy also welcomed The father's second wife years ago. They're some resentment toward Tracy due to that as well.
THE TROPICAL RED LADY AKA TAMEEKA WIMBERLY and they be dead wrong and tryna put that cycle off on you no mam they do everything the Bible says backwards meaning they do nothing it says but hold it in their hand in from on Sunday’s
My co-worker is Korean and she said you never ever talk back or disagree with an elder in her culture. I say let the old folks think they are right and just go live your life. That's what I do
Just because they're family doesn't mean they know everything and they certainly don't always have your best interest in mind, usually dose more damage than good!!!!!
Mama Braxton can stew in her anger as long as she chooses to but what shouldn't continue is placing her long term burdens on her adult children who obviously has their own burdens, because of her hatred for their father, some things parents should keep private, l get the hurt I was married, cheated on multiple times and abused, unfortunately it happens it's just the nature of the beast but I left, eventually forgave him moved on I'm free, the best revenge is forgiveness and living well in peace
Tamar went on Wendy show to do damage control because of her piss poor behavior on this episode toward not only someone trying to help her but also an adult. Tragic
Evelyn acted like Iyanla was trying to “cook in her kitchen” - it was a power play! No Black elder wants anyone outside of the family telling them they didn’t cultivate their tribe right, they, in fact are bad leaders in the family and stop treating the kids/future like they don’t know shit and you can’t learn from them. This is why families break up with the Woman dies, because no one wanted to be there in the first place. Black elders really learned how to parent from slave owners so they treat their children and offspring in the same manner that a slaveowner treated their slaves, don’t listen to them, dismiss their opinion, it means nothing and they’re only there to work and listen to the elders
We as the young generation just take it and move on because we're taught to be strong and resilient all the time. Its almost as if we're immortal instead of human. We're never allowed to be vulnerable and feel things.
"Everybody." ~Toni Braxton Just in case y'all were unclear on who she was referring to. Baby she meant that with every piece of her soul and I'm here for it. I hate that Toni doesn't really realize how much of an actual LEGEND she truly is...despite helping the sisters. I was almost in tears listening to her one-on-one with Iyanla.
LR Stinson Yes! I know I personally feel this way about most of my dad's side of my family. They have too much drama and a lot of lazy people with no goals. I love them but honey if they weren't family...
Me being a family girl, that was so sad to hear. I can't even imagine. My sisters are my best friends and there are 5 of us too. I loved their closeness.
I felt her and was cheering for her to finally get it out of her system. I understand it too. She has carried this a long long long time. God bless her for her strength. Toni is a sweet, beautiful spirit. I hope she continues to grow and thrive in her career. She is a real legend.
Just cut off another sibling 2 weeks ago. He's called. I don't answer. No one for it. We don't gotta be cool Never have been. My Dad did to much damage for us to truly function as family. I try to heal and come together with a bunch of ppl who wanna be right or feel their pain trump's yours instead of just talk. No one's idea, feelings or opinion, interest matters but the person speaking. Spirit of a dead man shining thru the dysfunction. I choose me. They done burnt me the F out. Tired of always trying to be there for narcissists. Can't do it.
Wholeheartedly agree... Mrs E made the children choose, it’s a clear line. Toni, Towanda, Trina and Tamar choice was their mom. Mikey and Traci choice was dad. Both Mikey and Traci have a relationship with Mrs Wanda and Mrs E believe it’s betrayal.
Everything you said about "The Black Family" was true! My grandma is controlling and emotionally abusive like that! It took me talking to a therapist to understand where my issues came from. I have to love from a distance!
Tamar picked up on her mother's energy, that's why she was so vocal, and Ms. Evelyn so quiet. Tamar voices what her mother feels. Ms. Evelyn only check Tamar because She and her ex-husband were called out on Tamar's behavior.
So I was down to the bar with my homegirl Gertrude where the rich cars be in search of my forever when Mabel called me and told me that Nessa phoned her and informed her that Dineva was on the line.
Tamar is only pressed because of her power. WE TV let her and Vince think they were in control, then strong armed💪 Them with the fine print when there marriage drama became lucrative. Tamar was okay with the Sisters images being tarnished during their dark moments, but the moments her black eyes and martial affairs became the main topic of discussion NOW there is a problem. That’s why she initiated the strike, pretending to care about the family. Tamar does nothing with the idea of putting her family first. PLEASE HAVE SEVERAL SEATS TAMAR!!
karee 2700 I totally agree. The minute I found out she was behind it, I couldn’t believe her sisters didn’t see right through why she wanted to actually strike.
Quiet as it’s kept...I think Evelyn has allowed Tamar to act like that for years and admonishes the other ladies for coming down on Tamar. Evelyn protects Tamar. Evelyn and Tamar have been hurt very badly. Evelyn by the husband and Tamar by whomever molested her. She lets Tamar go off and act stupid because she didn’t protect her bc she was dealing with her own pain. It’s shame and guilt.
I know why did they say I know Mikie didn't go to the Christening. Does he not mess with them cause he does be on the show sometimes. So why were they so adamant because he don't mess with Traci specifically?
All I have to say is never let a shared blood line make you feel like you have to stay tied to toxic people...because I have cut off a plenty of family members simply because they were just toxic people and I couldn't deal with the...and another reason was because they just didn't fit into my life anymore...every since I was a little girl my mom would always tell me everybody can't go where you're going and where God wants you to go and I would go back to that every time I felt guilty for having to leave someone behind its ok because everybody is not built and equip for the things that you are 💖
im not sure i agree...God made you strong....you can always take to Him...God allowed you to bring it to Him....they are still your family...and if you don't pray and break the strongholds..ignoring it will eventually come back to you....it will later attack your offspring....You are Blessed ...Walk in your Authority.
@@batteriesnotincluded4715 It was. I don't ascribe to how elderly and older Black women act within their families. I won't stand for it. They will meet their maker messing with me. I simply tolerate them.
Remember when the sister that was married to Gabe went on Fix My Life and Iyanla identified a pattern from the Braxton matriarch? Yea. This was the sequel to that.
Ms. E is still 17 years old emotionally. I get it. If she had to listen to the man she love cry over his side chick in marriage counseling I get the hurt. She need to cry and let go. Ain’t nobody too proud to get their feelings hurt. It’s ok. She needs to just tell him how much he hurt her and live the rest of her days in peace.
That actually happened? She listened to her husband cry over his mistress? How long have they've been divorced? I thought Mr. Braxton left when the children were grown?
@@ccpitts770 yes it happened. She told the girls when Tamar made that song she stole my mama. Tamar wrote it thinking it was inspired by her parents but when Ms E heard it she corrected them. And I think he left when Tamar was small. That’s why her and Ms E are the closest. It was them for along time.
I have been watching Funky for years. In my opinion, this is your best commentary to date. In our culture, we are silenced by the very people that are supposed to protect us. We are taught so many paralyzing behaviors - not to talk back, don't raise your voice, and the most ignorant of them all "A Child's Place Is To Be Seen Not Heard". I watched both episodes with my husband and we both learned a lot about ourselves! I am a firm believer that the negative attitudes and behaviors women adapt to starts with the Mom- These episodes confirm it. Society teaches us that women only have Daddy Issues. The ignoring of the impact Mothers make on women is damaging. I hope this family truly accepts the responsibility of doing the work to heal. Funky, you absolutely did not miss with this one. 💞
It's almost degrading to the children who feel silenced when we needed to speak, but no one can teach you what they don't know and the one thing they didn't know was they were ignorant and unlearned
My parents have always known I am brutally honest. The phrase "Its not what you say, it's how you say it" . Now it took m a while to "say it right" lol...but I eventually got it. To this day I still have challenging conversations with my parents without fear. I believe in standing for what you believe in with no fear.
Same with me!! I always had a "mouth" on me but now as an adult, I have learned how to articulate my feelings without coming across as disrespectful or nasty!
So it seems like the season ended on a high note. But Tamar went on the Wendy show and bashed Iyanla . She also brought up about being molested. None of that was on the show I guess they cut it. 🤔
Iyanla beat her to the punch. Tamar thought she was gonna call her friend Wendy up so could be the 1st to air her own dirty laundry & Iyanla cut that whooole piece out. So she told her business for no reason. IYANLA IS SMART.
Ms.Iyanla threatened Tamar with a lawsuit because Tamar was calling her a quack and talked pure shit about Ms.Iyanla after that show so much so that Ms. Iyanla threatened a defamation lawsuit against Tamar and the Braxton show
I am 23 and my motto is "You can always learn something from everybody", I see life as a nonstop learning experience and will always be open minded till I'm in the grave
bravo! it's a way to go through and make every moment an experience while seeing silver linings and lessons everywhere ( and maybe even angels). take care Sis!
Dineva I don't know if you remember this that Toni revealed in the show as well as in her book that her mother was like a female Joe Jackson when they we're children so that right their speaks volumes!!!!!
Mama Braxton said to one of her children she thought iyanla was targeting Tamar of course she was cause she's otta control, so just because you've got issues dosent give you permission to run amuck or be disrespectful we all got a story so show some class
Oooh you’re preaching today! But I agree black matriarchs get on a power trip. They’ve been marginalized their entire lives so once they become head of the family that’s their claim to fame so to speak.
Alpha Omega Hell, you just described folks in customer service or government positions and those that feel no power nowhere else *except* to exude power over you at that moment.
I say that about my family all that time when they get that little but of Power over the family. It’s all they got and they yield it relentlessly even in all their wrong ways on the family. I had to break free from this ego tripping in my own family.
I like how you phrased that... a lot of people don’t get the reasoning and historical reference as to why this happens. They tend to just generalize in my experience. 💯🤷🏾♀️
It was a drama scene and she took up everyone else’s time ... everyone else took 1 to 2 minutes to say their peace and Tamar took 10 minutes with all that .... again she has to take all the air in the room and command attention on her
But that's all Tracy had was her father. Everyone else left her in the DMV and went off to bright lights and big dreams. So all Braxton and Tracey had were each other. Tracey seems like the only child that has done that, hence her being the "black sheep" the other 4 have been under Ms. E. That's prob why we don't see Michael either, he lives a normal life in the DMV as a nurse (I think)
Tracy also said on one of the earlier seasons of the Braxton Family Values that she took her father's side when her parents divorce while Toni, Towanda, Trina and Tamar all sided with Evelyn.
In regards to Q's feelings about the Matriarch and how we hold Her in the highest regard even when we know she is wrong-We need to extend that to our Patriarch the Black Church/Pastor as well. How many women and children have been victimized by the Pastor (or his Deacons/ Ministers) but were silenced by fear of shaming the Church family? We have allowed generations to be violated by criminals/predators who hid behind " the cloth" unchecked. While this issue far extends beyond Blacks it is especially toxic in our Community because of our deep connection to our faith. We have forced our Daughters to worship the Highest power in the same building as they have been violated in by the lowest demons intermingling our most perfect connection with God with the ill will of Satan. It is time to start holding our Leaders accountable.
I stand by my sentiment that Evelyn shouldn't be commended for stopping her 40 year old daughter from acting an ass when Evelyn was doing the exact same thing the day before. And I don't buy Tamars nonexistent "tearful" plea from Tamar either. All that shows is that Tamar knows what she's doing is messed up and she doesn't care.
I agree if you noticed when Evelyn was talking to Tamar she was looking at her like WTF that's because she heard her mom saying the same things about Iyanla before they got there and now you switching up telling me to respect her. And saw now her mom acted we they first got there by not wanting to commit to staying until the end.
speak on it, funky dineva! My grandmother is verbally abusive and the day i finally challenged her, it went so far as her trying to call the police on me. after that incident, i cut her and other toxic family members off and haven't spoken to them in 5 years. It's hard admiting to yourself that your family is dysfunctional, but its our own responsibility to get ourselves out of the mess. No one will rescue you. You must fight for your life at any cost!
This would be funny if it wasn't true, ain't it sad that you have to separate from your family because you just wanted to plead your thoughts and feelings hoping someone would understand you and all hell breaks loose!!!!!!
I've come to the conclusion that the betrayal in a marriage can make some women bitter for life. Mama E has never forgiven nor forgotten the betrayal of her husband. She will hold on to it for the rest of her life. And that bitterness has resonated in her children. I'll take single and happy any day over married and miserable.
You better preach!!!!!! Ms E is the reason they think they have to be BFFs and sisters. Ms E needs friends and a life outside of her adult kids. Your thoughts on Tamar were 💯
Kiki Green Right! I am so glad that she did. She broke the cycle. They kept saying the issue was that she said one thing and did another. It wasn’t that. It was that they assumed she was weak and would just go along with them. She is now redefining how she allows them to treat her. I’m so happy for her.
Honestly I think a conversation or video would be great to speak on family dynamics, especially black family. The Braxton’s are no more different than any other one, the black sheep (Trina at times/ definitely Tracy), The one that doesn’t come around (Michael Jr/towanda,) the golden child, whether forced or circumstantial (Toni) and the respectability politician - the one everyone likes and no one checks due to being favored/admired and does whatever they can to be the one most favored or attended to (Tamar) . That would be an interesting convo
The mother or grandmother always get uncomfortable when people pull they card an slap them w/ they own truth ! They favorite thing to do is run away SMH.
I so agree with you on Tamar's behavior towards Iyanla. For a moment i thought she was possessed. So weird and disrepectful, like a totally spoiled child.
Ms. E can't have it both ways. Sooooo you feel like they're too old to blame you for their issues, but she still feels as though she can discipline them🤔 and you're right, that whole "I'm older, so I'm right and don't call me on it" is a big issue and its very apparent in this family. That mama is bitter and its rubbed off on every daughter in various ways and she's managed to use them as allies (and I'm sure that conditioning started when the parents were getting divorced). If you remember during Trina's fix my life episode, she was adamant that no matter what, she wasn't gone call her mama on ANYTHING.... and that's the root of many of their problems
When these natural beauties trade in their God-given good looks at such a young age, to look like muppets! Tamar, Ne Ne Leakes Jada Pinkette, Charro, and the likes. Those cheek implants and narrow noses ain't it! They look morphed and unnatural.
I agree somewhat but I learn things from my kids who are 10 and 8. I don’t assume I know all just because I’m older. Also respect begets respect. I listen and respect their opinions therefore when I speak with authority about something they answer with yes m’am no questions asked.
I don't mean any disrespect but how much wisdom can one gain by surviving their circumstances instead of conquering. A lot of elder can only teach survival because a lack of education inevitably causes struggle, and then that pathology continues.
Same here. Rest in peace Grandma but this generations mother's KNOW BETTER THAN TO OVERLOOK a child's VOICE. RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS. LOVE your READ on Evelyn.
When Ms E yelled and those 40 year old women got shook. I almost wanted Tamar to say another word, just so i could see what kinda shit Ms E was bout to do to her that had them that scared as adults
Hun, I started cracking up. All I could think about was myself - being the type of sister to whisper, while snugging her with my elbow, “say it, don’t be scared of her, you grown!” Lol
she was going to knock the piss out of them like she sad on camera before. she's a nasty women and I bet she verbally and mentality abused them when her husband left her ass.
Iyanla: "What I'm very clear about, is that Tamar acts out what Evelyn feels within.... Tamar is the physical manifestation, demonstration of what Ms. Evelyn feels within herself."
Pathologies...inherited and learned. Those women inherited their mother's bitterness and learned how to treat not only others but themselves and their father as well. Once you learn about pathologies and you see how pathologies are a reflection of everything you are...You can heal and be better!
TheSaintb23 Not only their father but men in general you see how it was so easy for Tamar to speak up when it was time to correct the Daddy about not being there but none of them say anything to correct or disagree with their mother. I think they blame their father for the breakdown of the family when clearly Ms. E played apart in the demise also.
Qwanda Jay Ms E put the kids in the middle of it! She used them against their father and they're too broken to understand this. She placed her pain upon them and made it theirs when it had NOTHING to do with them. She's dead wrong but bc she's the matriarch she can't be wrong. It's sad how she created the pathologies and refuses to acknowledge it.
Qwanda Jay I agree on most points BUT they blame their father because he broke his vows and went outside the marriage. Now Ms E was wrong to involve them to the degree that she did but HE was unfaithful not her so they do blame him right wrong or indifferent
TheSaintb23 Agreed. They had a right to love BOTH parents regardless of the breakdown between him & Ms E. Sad. She was wrong. But she's still hurting clearly.
Sha e In most Black families we try and be respectful, and we certainly wouldn’t disagree or call our mother out on national tv, even if we should. Many of us just DON’T do that!
Dineva, the Braxton sisters are fixated on their stage of development when their mother and father divorced. They all have aged physically, however even Trina and Towanda you can see clearly they have the same dynamic with their parents that they had when they were in their early teens.
Your honesty and candor is much needed and very much appreciated. I love you for being relatable. I love the way you think and the way you express yourself. The way you weave through the bs and just keep it real. You are a blessing to me and many more.
I look at my parents right in the eye and dare them to even think about hitting me. They know that it would be their last day on earth. I don't give a damn. I don't hold my head down. I look them right in the eyes.
@@pfowler8310 I am not down with letting anyone make me bow my head but the most high. I tell everyone in my family that if they want respect they had better damn well give it in return.
When Iyanla said Tamar is the physical embodiment of Ms. Evelyn's pain and hurt I was SHOOK! That was a WORD!
Wow I missed that part. Powerful
If you can't say amen, say ouch!
I was stunned to hear that, and even more surprised to see Towanda and Trina agree.
Absolutely!!!
Kweku Adu wow
The first season they label Traci the wannabe. That would hurt anyone.
My thoughts exactly!
Good point! I forgot about that
And Tamar called her a wanna be on live AFTER Traci said it hurt her....bitchy ass Tamar
tammy Bondon I always that was so disrespectful.
Why did Tracy allow it?
I see why their brother Mikey be over there in Maryland minding his own damn business...
JameelahTV I swear everyone got that one family member that makes you just detached from the whole family.😂 Mine is my brother, I didn’t even go to his kid baby shower or birth of his child. Him and my mother were my first bullies.
Yes. I think he and Toni are back to back in age so he's close to her. She knew what he would do and that he was not at the baby christening. She knows her brother.
JameelahTV You Said that I Agree
Hes in the medical field.. he aint trying to interfere with his coins🏃🏾♀️🤣
I said the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The best thing said was when Toni said if they weren’t family they wouldn’t be friends....profound statement and you see it
She hates that she loves them
Hate is a strong word
I think that they make it hard for her to love them
@@Hotwingzlover84 hate seems pretty accurate. Hate is the opposite to love. You have to have love for something in order to hate it. They’re two sides of the same coin. The opposite of that would be indifference.
@@masonakamara7556 we can agree to disagree. I respect your opinion.
SOO TRUE!!!
Funky would be a great therapist , he has a great way of breaking down situations.
Stacy Robinson I totally agree
he told NO lies
Stacy Robinson I luv when he said when I went to Florida State University and got my degree in Economics they didn't teach me nothin bout bein no therapist BUT.....
Oh that is my fave
Yes
He would
Their behavior diminish their family values.
I read it on my Iyanla voice 🤣
@@chancelineamba1807 the vexed voice? Lol
My 35yo old husband comes from a family that ONLY lives by the "Respect Your Elders" mentally. They've used this privilege to get away with abuse. It's a narcissitic behavior and a generational curse.
Yes, thank u
Yes, unfortunately the dynamic is like that in my family. And I see how it breaks my adult niece down when dealing with her mom, my older sister. I want her to break that chain and tell her mom she is not going to play by her rules.
They want to be RULERS and not LEADERS.
If i can give this statement a million ❤💗💞💖💕💓
BEST.COMMENT.EVER!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Amen
Traci’s not the bastard child. Traci is the only sister that maintained a relationship with their father regardless of Ms. E’s feelings. I think the sisters resent her for that. He is actually a part of her life.
Thats right an in a steady relationship
THIS!!!!
The brother did as well.
@@marieajones2137 ummm NOT STEADY kuzz THAT nigga cheated
Amen Sis
Ms. Evelyn is full of bitterness and she won’t let go that her ex husband cheated on her. She need to free herself from the hurt and needs to forgive that man so she can move on
iesh dunk That maybe true but I just want to throw this in the pot.I can relate to Ms.Evelyn because I’ve been there.Yes,She probably is bitter and I think I know why.Things are different for women now.You young women now don’t look at marriage and having a family nowadays the way it was looked at back back in the day.And add on that Ms.Ev was the First Lady so to speak at the Church.So that compounds how she looked at being married.She was young and pretty much gave her life to her husband and her family.She believed that you take care of your husband and your family and your husband will take care of you.Well,He didn’t do that and he’s a man he’s not perfect.She gave him all those years of her life and he walked away with another woman.Hell,She ain’t 20 no more and she’s left with her children and that’s all she has to show for her life.And he can walk off in the sunset and start a new life.And then you are suppose to deal with him coming around and acting like everything is alright.Thats hard and it’s a lot to ask of someone.See y’all are use to this type of thing.Men having children with women and not being in a relationship.So it’s nothing for people to except this nowadays.But,Back then that wasn’t seen as normal and something you just except(not that it should be ever)Yes,She does at this point need to get over it but she’s stuck in her emotions.
@@kimwright6377 women didn't divorce back then. They believed in marriage. Me Evelyn was probably taught like that.
mama Braxton show's us that divorce isn't easy. Heartbreak can be deep! Men don't just leave woman, they leave the children aswell.Just because divorce alot shouldn't doesn't mean it's easy.
Kim Wright I understand marriage and I have been married for 10 years. My values are somewhat old school. But the break down of their marriage was not in the 50’s, 60’s,70’s, when woman had a rough time acquiring jobs or assistance. They divorced many years ago. They proclaim to be Christians so where is the forgiveness. I understand being embarrassed by being the 1st lady of the church but when do you let go? When do you move on? When does she become strong instead of “acting” strong? To me Ms. E doesn’t portray strength. She portrays hurt, misery and tension. I would be hurt by the betrayal but I would move on for my own sanity
She said it plain. He was her best friend and her first love. And he betrayed her and broke. Her heart. I felt that in my spirit.
Ms. E was mad because Iyanla called her bitter on Trina and Gabe's episode of Fix My Life. That's why she was reluctant to work with Iyanla.
Arvion Ivey yes
But where was the lie?
Yes! If we have learned anything about her it's she can hold a grudge and she is not so forgiven......"stuck"
You're absolutely right! I've seen that episode! So miss evelyn came prepared!💯
Possibly I forgot all about that
I peeped that Traci was the only one who fools with the daddy. The momma got them involved in the divorce and made them pick sides. Traci chose daddy they chose momma
Maybe Traci is just closer to her father because they live in the same state. Traci never left Maryland.
She mentioned being cool with the new wife too
Girl you know that convo was filled with scripture, holy water and laying on of hands lol
Yeah, that is something they won't deal with. Tracy also welcomed The father's second wife years ago. They're some resentment toward Tracy due to that as well.
Sure your right
Tracy finally has her success. Don’t allow them to take it from you in any kind of way.
RIH, Dear Traci! ♥️
It's Traci not Tracy... 🙄
Tamar "creid" with 0 tears. That end scene was her way of redeeming her poor behavior. She is still on insta and twitter with her usual antics.
Oscar winning performance you say ...jajaja
I was like with all that make up she had on, where were the cry streaks? The fake crying was evident!
right
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 exactly not one damn tear and she still doin tha same shit
I can't even ! I peeped that too. Just so fxcking extra. I can't stand her.
YOU’RE 100% RIGHT ABOUT THE BLACK FAMILY SITUATION WITH THE ELDERS THEM THINKING THEY’RE ALWAYS RIGHT BECAUSE THEY’RE OLDER.
THE TROPICAL RED LADY AKA TAMEEKA WIMBERLY and they be dead wrong and tryna put that cycle off on you no mam they do everything the Bible says backwards meaning they do nothing it says but hold it in their hand in from on Sunday’s
And I DO NOT subscribe to that nonsense.
My co-worker is Korean and she said you never ever talk back or disagree with an elder in her culture. I say let the old folks think they are right and just go live your life. That's what I do
THE TROPICAL RED LADY A.K.A TAMEEKA I agree too!!!
Just because they're family doesn't mean they know everything and they certainly don't always have your best interest in mind, usually dose more damage than good!!!!!
Me. E also needs extra sessions with Iyanla
Why does Ms. E remind me of Lady Mae from Greenleaf..."I don't need fixing, fix my family" lol
She the main one
Mama Braxton can stew in her anger as long as she chooses to but what shouldn't continue is placing her long term burdens on her adult children who obviously has their own burdens, because of her hatred for their father, some things parents should keep private, l get the hurt I was married, cheated on multiple times and abused, unfortunately it happens it's just the nature of the beast but I left, eventually forgave him moved on I'm free, the best revenge is forgiveness and living well in peace
Now we know why Tamar got fired from the Real
Facts
Agreed
T S lies, even the producers said it was Vince and NOT Tamar that’s to blame for her being fired
Honey Johnson Facts
Absolutely
Tamar went on Wendy show to do damage control because of her piss poor behavior on this episode toward not only someone trying to help her but also an adult. Tragic
Girl, tell the truth and shame the devil.
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suga walls Or get ratings.
Yes, in that order.
EGGZACKLEE!! I was waiting diligently for the alleged "disrespect" that caused Tamar to leave? Smmfh
"Yall looking down at the ground like yall on line or some slaves" that was right on the money. That's exactly how they looked.
Shannon D esp Trina ...she is terrified of her mother
Ms. E had me in that line right along with em...I straightened the hell up too...lol
Yup you see how quick Trina shrinks down every time
Lol when tamar had her ORIGINAL FACE and ORIGINAL NOSE😂😂😂😂
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That took me out!
I thought she looked different
Evelyn acted like Iyanla was trying to “cook in her kitchen” - it was a power play! No Black elder wants anyone outside of the family telling them they didn’t cultivate their tribe right, they, in fact are bad leaders in the family and stop treating the kids/future like they don’t know shit and you can’t learn from them. This is why families break up with the Woman dies, because no one wanted to be there in the first place.
Black elders really learned how to parent from slave owners so they treat their children and offspring in the same manner that a slaveowner treated their slaves, don’t listen to them, dismiss their opinion, it means nothing and they’re only there to work and listen to the elders
A close friend of mines said the same thing about Black elders learning from slavery.
We as the young generation just take it and move on because we're taught to be strong and resilient all the time. Its almost as if we're immortal instead of human. We're never allowed to be vulnerable and feel things.
Oooooo ooooooh ooooooh WOW! SPEEEEEAK!!
Yes to all of this!!!!
Naturally Unbothered yes!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
"Everybody." ~Toni Braxton
Just in case y'all were unclear on who she was referring to. Baby she meant that with every piece of her soul and I'm here for it. I hate that Toni doesn't really realize how much of an actual LEGEND she truly is...despite helping the sisters. I was almost in tears listening to her one-on-one with Iyanla.
I feel empathy for Toni and Traci only
SWEAR!😂😂 When Iyanla told her to breath "EVERYBODY" "ALL YALL" 😂😂😂
Can you imagine the millions of people who feel this way about their immediate family?
LR Stinson Yes! I know I personally feel this way about most of my dad's side of my family. They have too much drama and a lot of lazy people with no goals. I love them but honey if they weren't family...
@@lrs1519 yes I can indeed
When Ms. Evelyn told Tamar “Say one more word and I got you”. I hollered! I rewinded that specific scene at least three times. 😂
Trashanda Grayes It took Ms. E long enough to speak up to be Tamar’s mom , to me she seems to enable her poor behavior as well.
Trashanda Grayes if you noticed on the second day when Ms V went off both parents were shaking their heads in agreement then.
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Trashanda Grayes That's probably what Vince said to her before he whipped that ass.
Danelle Jones That you could even say that shows that either you’re a fucked up person period or you’re dwelling in a moment of not being shit.
Ms. E is very bitter and feels entitled. The brother is the smart one. He stays out of the way and lives his life. The others should take note.
Toni put that family on the map!! She got so much responsibility on her shoulders damn. I never looked at it that way
WHEN TONI SAID SHE DIDN’T LIKE HER FAMILY I FELT HER 1000% I haven’t watched the episode yet but I feel the same way
Natasha Brown me too drained look is me now I had to get away for a year I be looking just like Toni sick n tired
Me being a family girl, that was so sad to hear. I can't even imagine. My sisters are my best friends and there are 5 of us too. I loved their closeness.
Ash Doe it’s five of us as well but we all have different dads so maybe that’s the issue it makes me not want a big family at all
I felt her and was cheering for her to finally get it out of her system. I understand it too. She has carried this a long long long time. God bless her for her strength. Toni is a sweet, beautiful spirit. I hope she continues to grow and thrive in her career. She is a real legend.
Just cut off another sibling 2 weeks ago. He's called. I don't answer. No one for it. We don't gotta be cool
Never have been. My Dad did to much damage for us to truly function as family. I try to heal and come together with a bunch of ppl who wanna be right or feel their pain trump's yours instead of just talk. No one's idea, feelings or opinion, interest matters but the person speaking. Spirit of a dead man shining thru the dysfunction. I choose me. They done burnt me the F out. Tired of always trying to be there for narcissists. Can't do it.
They been mad that Traci is close to the father. They said it In the first season.
SunnyNite Designs No they hated that Tracy was close to their fathers 2nd wife. That was the issue! They all felt like she was betraying Mama E
I say it's both, because after the divorce she still lived in the same town as him. 🙏
Wholeheartedly agree... Mrs E made the children choose, it’s a clear line. Toni, Towanda, Trina and Tamar choice was their mom. Mikey and Traci choice was dad. Both Mikey and Traci have a relationship with Mrs Wanda and Mrs E believe it’s betrayal.
@@PeppyLuv All true
Everything you said about "The Black Family" was true! My grandma is controlling and emotionally abusive like that! It took me talking to a therapist to understand where my issues came from. I have to love from a distance!
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Tamar picked up on her mother's energy, that's why she was so vocal, and Ms. Evelyn so quiet. Tamar voices what her mother feels. Ms. Evelyn only check Tamar because
She and her ex-husband were called out on Tamar's behavior.
So I was down to the bar with my homegirl Gertrude where the rich cars be in search of my forever when Mabel called me and told me that Nessa phoned her and informed her that Dineva was on the line.
Yassss homegirl Gertrude!
lmfao!!
😂😂 I been waiting on my call all week! Finally!
Ramardo T. Hunt yasss
Ramardo T. Hunt 😂
I never comment on here. But dear Lord in heaven, I’ve been waiting for this...🙌🏾#ThankYou
LaNeisha Waller we ALL have been waiting for this!!!
You should comment more often. It's nice to have you bless the room.
LaNeisha Waller ikr as soon as I saw this I started laughing
Yess!! Me too!!!
Geo Cyo That’s so nice!!
Tamar is only pressed because of her power. WE TV let her and Vince think they were in control, then strong armed💪 Them with the fine print when there marriage drama became lucrative. Tamar was okay with the Sisters images being tarnished during their dark moments, but the moments her black eyes and martial affairs became the main topic of discussion NOW there is a problem. That’s why she initiated the strike, pretending to care about the family. Tamar does nothing with the idea of putting her family first. PLEASE HAVE SEVERAL SEATS TAMAR!!
lexdiamonz01 she talks to everybody but Traci unfortunately.
You said what I have thinking for real.
karee 2700 I totally agree. The minute I found out she was behind it, I couldn’t believe her sisters didn’t see right through why she wanted to actually strike.
Exactly
she's a true manipulator -- dummies fell for it - full of sh!T
Quiet as it’s kept...I think Evelyn has allowed Tamar to act like that for years and admonishes the other ladies for coming down on Tamar. Evelyn protects Tamar. Evelyn and Tamar have been hurt very badly. Evelyn by the husband and Tamar by whomever molested her. She lets Tamar go off and act stupid because she didn’t protect her bc she was dealing with her own pain. It’s shame and guilt.
Most likely. Tamar really needs help and they have let her get away with stuff for too long.
Nailed it.
I want to hear from the Braxton brother....
I was thinking the same thing. He's not there most time.
I know why did they say I know Mikie didn't go to the Christening. Does he not mess with them cause he does be on the show sometimes. So why were they so adamant because he don't mess with Traci specifically?
All I have to say is never let a shared blood line make you feel like you have to stay tied to toxic people...because I have cut off a plenty of family members simply because they were just toxic people and I couldn't deal with the...and another reason was because they just didn't fit into my life anymore...every since I was a little girl my mom would always tell me everybody can't go where you're going and where God wants you to go and I would go back to that every time I felt guilty for having to leave someone behind its ok because everybody is not built and equip for the things that you are 💖
Amen say it loud for the ones in the back
Amen this is a word..
Come through Mom! I love when can I get some wisdom from someone’s else’s wise parent.
im not sure i agree...God made you strong....you can always take to Him...God allowed you to bring it to Him....they are still your family...and if you don't pray and break the strongholds..ignoring it will eventually come back to you....it will later attack your offspring....You are Blessed ...Walk in your Authority.
Definitely relatable, well said
When Ms. Evelyn said don’t you said another word. I said Yes Mam. Then I was like wait!!! That’s not my Mom!!!
It didn't phase me. My parents know better. They may do it with my siblings but they know better than to approach me like that. I trained them well.
@@Moonewitch Wow! What a proud moment.
@@batteriesnotincluded4715 It was. I don't ascribe to how elderly and older Black women act within their families. I won't stand for it. They will meet their maker messing with me. I simply tolerate them.
Lol lol. But it took her a long time to reprimand Tamar.
I THINK THEY R SOOOO DAMN MEAN 2 TRACI
Ladi F0XXXi Brown still to this day
Remember when the sister that was married to Gabe went on Fix My Life and Iyanla identified a pattern from the Braxton matriarch? Yea. This was the sequel to that.
DrGyalfren Well Towanda was on the original show Starting Over that episode is on YT
That is the real reason that Evelyn Braxton didn’t Ike Iyanla and was reluctant to get her help
I was like Boom..there it go..... everything leads back to Ms Evelyn
When Tamar pulled off her hat and started brushing her scalp like Chicago from Poetic Justice... bayyyybayy 😳😳😳🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yvette Glssfrd1 😆😆😆😩😭
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You made me laugh!! Lol
I am rolling 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Ms. E is still 17 years old emotionally. I get it. If she had to listen to the man she love cry over his side chick in marriage counseling I get the hurt. She need to cry and let go. Ain’t nobody too proud to get their feelings hurt. It’s ok. She needs to just tell him how much he hurt her and live the rest of her days in peace.
That actually happened? She listened to her husband cry over his mistress? How long have they've been divorced? I thought Mr. Braxton left when the children were grown?
@@ccpitts770 yes it happened. She told the girls when Tamar made that song she stole my mama. Tamar wrote it thinking it was inspired by her parents but when Ms E heard it she corrected them. And I think he left when Tamar was small. That’s why her and Ms E are the closest. It was them for along time.
I have been watching Funky for years. In my opinion, this is your best commentary to date. In our culture, we are silenced by the very people that are supposed to protect us. We are taught so many paralyzing behaviors - not to talk back, don't raise your voice, and the most ignorant of them all "A Child's Place Is To Be Seen Not Heard". I watched both episodes with my husband and we both learned a lot about ourselves! I am a firm believer that the negative attitudes and behaviors women adapt to starts with the Mom- These episodes confirm it. Society teaches us that women only have Daddy Issues. The ignoring of the impact Mothers make on women is damaging. I hope this family truly accepts the responsibility of doing the work to heal. Funky, you absolutely did not miss with this one. 💞
Agreed Hun! TOTALLY agree
He devoured this commentary. The epiphanies I endured during this was insane!
It's almost degrading to the children who feel silenced when we needed to speak, but no one can teach you what they don't know and the one thing they didn't know was they were ignorant and unlearned
My parents have always known I am brutally honest. The phrase "Its not what you say, it's how you say it" . Now it took m a while to "say it right" lol...but I eventually got it. To this day I still have challenging conversations with my parents without fear. I believe in standing for what you believe in with no fear.
Yeah I had that problem also and it got my ass whipped too but I learned from my experience now I am teaching my babe girl now the different.
Same here!
celeste8271 I believe that too and for me it’s about standing your ground but being respectful at the same time
Me too. I had to learn tact, but I've always been the truthteller.
Same with me!! I always had a "mouth" on me but now as an adult, I have learned how to articulate my feelings without coming across as disrespectful or nasty!
We call it respect but I think it's called enabling dysfunction
Monique Smith preach this is true and I will say for me it is enables abuse
@@MsFitKitty i never thought of it that way. If you dont put it in check the abuse continues
Monique Smith you better say that!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Monique Smith say it again!!!
It depends on the matriarch. Sometimes they are crazy mommas and sometimes there right mommas.
So it seems like the season ended on a high note. But Tamar went on the Wendy show and bashed Iyanla . She also brought up about being molested. None of that was on the show I guess they cut it. 🤔
Iyanla beat her to the punch. Tamar thought she was gonna call her friend Wendy up so could be the 1st to air her own dirty laundry & Iyanla cut that whooole piece out. So she told her business for no reason.
IYANLA IS SMART.
Thank you! Now I get it. I was thinking the same thing. I felt like I missed something because I never heard them talk about molestation....
Ms.Iyanla threatened Tamar with a lawsuit because Tamar was calling her a quack and talked pure shit about Ms.Iyanla after that show so much so that Ms. Iyanla threatened a defamation lawsuit against Tamar and the Braxton show
I think Evelyn had an attitude from the gate because of what the things Ianlya said about her in the Trina episode.
I am 23 and my motto is "You can always learn something from everybody", I see life as a nonstop learning experience and will always be open minded till I'm in the grave
Roselena Veragova amen
bravo! it's a way to go through and make every moment an experience while seeing silver linings and lessons everywhere ( and maybe even angels). take care Sis!
I’ve been WAITING for yu to give Tamar what she NEED‼️
Amen!!! I been waiting on this alert for DAYS!!! I had to use my new edge control before the doll snatched them all out lmao
30:55 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Belle Espirit 😭😭😭😭 yeeessss
Teata Marie I mean PERCHED!!!!
@Pop Culture Factory And get your thirsty ass is on his video commenting and watching. You have no life and its pathetic keep it pushing plankton....
When I look at them around their parents, they come across as little kids. Hence, Trina mentioning she still feels like a 12 year old.
Dineva I don't know if you remember this that Toni revealed in the show as well as in her book that her mother was like a female Joe Jackson when they we're children so that right their speaks volumes!!!!!
THE COSMETIC GODDESS YES! Her book explains a lot.
Tamar’s behavior is disgusting! I was literally embarrassed watching her, and can clearly see why Toni confessed what she did.
Tamar my momma age my momma doesnt act like that
Mama Braxton said to one of her children she thought iyanla was targeting Tamar of course she was cause she's otta control, so just because you've got issues dosent give you permission to run amuck or be disrespectful we all got a story so show some class
I been waiting for this. When Iyanla walked in on what looked like a bald Army vet doing lashes I knew she would be triggered 😂
😂😂😂! You said that so well!! I’m dead😂
I’m weak! 😂😂😂😂
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Bald army vet!! 😂😂😂😂
#triggered 😂😂
But when Tamar apologize to Traci and the way she apologized made me feel like Tamar did get Traci kicked off that tour
Tamar knew she was wrong for getting Traci put off Toni's tour.. That was guilt taking over
When Toni went and did a movie and didn't do the tour so neither one was on the tour.
Oooh you’re preaching today! But I agree black matriarchs get on a power trip. They’ve been marginalized their entire lives so once they become head of the family that’s their claim to fame so to speak.
Alpha Omega Hell, you just described folks in customer service or government positions and those that feel no power nowhere else *except* to exude power over you at that moment.
I say that about my family all that time when they get that little but of Power over the family. It’s all they got and they yield it relentlessly even in all their wrong ways on the family. I had to break free from this ego tripping in my own family.
I like how you phrased that... a lot of people don’t get the reasoning and historical reference as to why this happens. They tend to just generalize in my experience. 💯🤷🏾♀️
Tamar’s behavior is disgusting. And is it me, or did it seem like Tamar’s confession was a drama scene? I didn’t see one damn tear
I said the same thing. She has a personality disorder
Ashley Holmon I believe she has a personality disorder as well. How she acts is not normal
Tamar needs to be in serious therapy. I sincerely pray she's getting the help she needs.
It was a drama scene and she took up everyone else’s time ... everyone else took 1 to 2 minutes to say their peace and Tamar took 10 minutes with all that .... again she has to take all the air in the room and command attention on her
Tamar anoying
Also I think Tamar is upset that Tracy is close to the father and Tamar never had that.
But that's all Tracy had was her father. Everyone else left her in the DMV and went off to bright lights and big dreams. So all Braxton and Tracey had were each other. Tracey seems like the only child that has done that, hence her being the "black sheep" the other 4 have been under Ms. E. That's prob why we don't see Michael either, he lives a normal life in the DMV as a nurse (I think)
@@Fullerpotentials14 I agree
Tracy also said on one of the earlier seasons of the Braxton Family Values that she took her father's side when her parents divorce while Toni, Towanda, Trina and Tamar all sided with Evelyn.
Mocha Chilove that’s probably why Tamar feels the way she feels about her daddy
3 1\2 minutes in and I'm already vigorously waving my Rev., Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Funeral Home Fan!!!!!!❤❤❤❤
In regards to Q's feelings about the Matriarch and how we hold Her in the highest regard even when we know she is wrong-We need to extend that to our Patriarch the Black Church/Pastor as well. How many women and children have been victimized by the Pastor (or his Deacons/ Ministers) but were silenced by fear of shaming the Church family? We have allowed generations to be violated by criminals/predators who hid behind " the cloth" unchecked. While this issue far extends beyond Blacks it is especially toxic in our Community because of our deep connection to our faith. We have forced our Daughters to worship the Highest power in the same building as they have been violated in by the lowest demons intermingling our most perfect connection with God with the ill will of Satan. It is time to start holding our Leaders accountable.
Chris Reflections 🙌🏽
@ Chris R-All facts!!!
Say this again but louder 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Chris Reflections I wish I could like this 500 times!!!! This was a word!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
You said so much and you so accurate 👏
I stand by my sentiment that Evelyn shouldn't be commended for stopping her 40 year old daughter from acting an ass when Evelyn was doing the exact same thing the day before. And I don't buy Tamars nonexistent "tearful" plea from Tamar either. All that shows is that Tamar knows what she's doing is messed up and she doesn't care.
Liah Ford Agreed
I hate the excuse the of “she was always like that” when it comes to Tamar...like ok, and Evelyn should’ve nipped it in the bud then
I agree if you noticed when Evelyn was talking to Tamar she was looking at her like WTF that's because she heard her mom saying the same things about Iyanla before they got there and now you switching up telling me to respect her. And saw now her mom acted we they first got there by not wanting to commit to staying until the end.
I thought those tears were fake too.
Liah Ford That was 30 something years too late. Where was that at when Tamar was a child?!
speak on it, funky dineva! My grandmother is verbally abusive and the day i finally challenged her, it went so far as her trying to call the police on me. after that incident, i cut her and other toxic family members off and haven't spoken to them in 5 years. It's hard admiting to yourself that your family is dysfunctional, but its our own responsibility to get ourselves out of the mess. No one will rescue you. You must fight for your life at any cost!
This would be funny if it wasn't true, ain't it sad that you have to separate from your family because you just wanted to plead your thoughts and feelings hoping someone would understand you and all hell breaks loose!!!!!!
I've come to the conclusion that the betrayal in a marriage can make some women bitter for life. Mama E has never forgiven nor forgotten the betrayal of her husband. She will hold on to it for the rest of her life. And that bitterness has resonated in her children. I'll take single and happy any day over married and miserable.
And she’s never moved on. She lives vicariously through her daughters.
You better preach!!!!!!
Ms E is the reason they think they have to be BFFs and sisters. Ms E needs friends and a life outside of her adult kids.
Your thoughts on Tamar were 💯
Look how much healing for the whole family because Traci stood up for herself!! #TeamTraci
Kiki Green Right! I am so glad that she did. She broke the cycle. They kept saying the issue was that she said one thing and did another. It wasn’t that. It was that they assumed she was weak and would just go along with them. She is now redefining how she allows them to treat her. I’m so happy for her.
@@nikkobuchanan3305 Ooh! That was deep.😊
@@nikkobuchanan3305 Now, she's with the Heavenly Father, total BLISS, not a care in this world or any other! Fly High Traci! You were a great talent!
Honestly I think a conversation or video would be great to speak on family dynamics, especially black family. The Braxton’s are no more different than any other one, the black sheep (Trina at times/ definitely Tracy), The one that doesn’t come around (Michael Jr/towanda,) the golden child, whether forced or circumstantial (Toni) and the respectability politician - the one everyone likes and no one checks due to being favored/admired and does whatever they can to be the one most favored or attended to (Tamar) . That would be an interesting convo
Leon Valentine I for one would love to see that video
The mother or grandmother always get uncomfortable when people pull they card an slap them w/ they own truth !
They favorite thing to do is run away SMH.
Toni said some real ish, I definitely don’t like a few people in my family
I feel like Toni
So do I
Tamar must have chronic dry eye! That one tear did NOT show up at the family meeting!!!
She need Jesus and a ophthalmologist!
Iloveme Fortune 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
My sister said the same thing lordt.😭😭😭😭😭
🤣🤣 that tear was like 'sorry, it's my day off'
I KNOW RIGHT! She should have been running makeup and blowing snot bubbles!!!!
Iloveme Fortune "For dry, red eyes; clear eyes is awesome WOW"
I think Ms. Evelyn still have some issues that needs to be addressed.
I so agree with you on Tamar's behavior towards Iyanla. For a moment i thought she was possessed. So weird and disrepectful, like a totally spoiled child.
Ms. E can't have it both ways. Sooooo you feel like they're too old to blame you for their issues, but she still feels as though she can discipline them🤔 and you're right, that whole "I'm older, so I'm right and don't call me on it" is a big issue and its very apparent in this family. That mama is bitter and its rubbed off on every daughter in various ways and she's managed to use them as allies (and I'm sure that conditioning started when the parents were getting divorced). If you remember during Trina's fix my life episode, she was adamant that no matter what, she wasn't gone call her mama on ANYTHING.... and that's the root of many of their problems
crazii_creole 3 So true
The mom is still bitter about the dad and they all hold on to her pain and lash out at the dad.
I could express my feelings to my parents but I would never cuss at them grown or not
Dee Williams same and mine treat me like trash. I just don’t deal with them.
Pretty Brown Nomad You’ll be blessed
Thank you Dee...I had to search long in these comments for this. To say kma to a parent no no..and return to have subsequent convo..heck no ever
I wouldn't either. My mama is military trained and I want to keep all my teeth.
Rephiment10 yup...I wanna keep my TEETH AND MY LIFE🙌😂🙏🏽
This has been THE most thorough review about the season finale on UA-cam. GREAT REVIEW!!!
When these natural beauties trade in their God-given good looks at such a young age, to look like muppets! Tamar, Ne Ne Leakes Jada Pinkette, Charro, and the likes. Those cheek implants and narrow noses ain't it! They look morphed and unnatural.
None of what Tamar did at the end was real to me. Fake... Phoney... Kermit the Frog... ijs.
Many elders lacked education, but they oftentimes made up for it with wisdom, which is indispensable!
Right. Just on living that long. Life experience you can't have at 20 or even 30.
I agree somewhat but I learn things from my kids who are 10 and 8. I don’t assume I know all just because I’m older. Also respect begets respect. I listen and respect their opinions therefore when I speak with authority about something they answer with yes m’am no questions asked.
True
I don't mean any disrespect but how much wisdom can one gain by surviving their circumstances instead of conquering. A lot of elder can only teach survival because a lack of education inevitably causes struggle, and then that pathology continues.
OMG PREACH!!! My mother lacks this "wisdom". RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT!!!!!!!! O LORD, PLEASE WRITE THAT AGAIN.
“It annoys every pubic hair I have!!!” 😂😝😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣LOL
Tamar is insane. She has no clue who she is. She changes characters like a person changing hat.
Same here. Rest in peace Grandma but this generations mother's KNOW BETTER THAN TO OVERLOOK a child's VOICE. RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS. LOVE your READ on Evelyn.
When Ms E yelled and those 40 year old women got shook. I almost wanted Tamar to say another word, just so i could see what kinda shit Ms E was bout to do to her that had them that scared as adults
mahari08 yessss me too. keep talking Tamar
Hun, I started cracking up. All I could think about was myself - being the type of sister to whisper, while snugging her with my elbow, “say it, don’t be scared of her, you grown!” Lol
mahari08 Mother Evelyn was goin to smack the shit out of Tamar for being very disrespectful towards Ms. Vanzant and the family.
she was going to knock the piss out of them like she sad on camera before. she's a nasty women and I bet she verbally and mentality abused them when her husband left her ass.
Well she did say she would slap the piss out of Tamar some years ago. Made Tamar cry and everything Jesus
Iyanla: "What I'm very clear about, is that Tamar acts out what Evelyn feels within.... Tamar is the physical manifestation, demonstration of what Ms. Evelyn feels within herself."
RoyalRed ooh that’s deep 🤔
But he dogged iyanya on the queen supreme court
And that’s why Tamar gets away with that behavior until Evelyn feels the need to address it.
Miss E is bitter as all hell....periodt
Keep the lengthy videos coming please! Here for it!
Yes Q! You in that black shirt with the top buttons loose serving good brown chess with no taco meat! I live!!!!
Yes he was looking good!!😍
😂😂😂 no taco meat
Pathologies...inherited and learned. Those women inherited their mother's bitterness and learned how to treat not only others but themselves and their father as well. Once you learn about pathologies and you see how pathologies are a reflection of everything you are...You can heal and be better!
TheSaintb23 Not only their father but men in general you see how it was so easy for Tamar to speak up when it was time to correct the Daddy about not being there but none of them say anything to correct or disagree with their mother. I think they blame their father for the breakdown of the family when clearly Ms. E played apart in the demise also.
Qwanda Jay Ms E put the kids in the middle of it! She used them against their father and they're too broken to understand this. She placed her pain upon them and made it theirs when it had NOTHING to do with them. She's dead wrong but bc she's the matriarch she can't be wrong. It's sad how she created the pathologies and refuses to acknowledge it.
TheSaintb23 And Iyanla is BIG on family pathology and inherant & learned behaviors!! Luv it
Qwanda Jay I agree on most points BUT they blame their father because he broke his vows and went outside the marriage. Now Ms E was wrong to involve them to the degree that she did but HE was unfaithful not her so they do blame him right wrong or indifferent
TheSaintb23 Agreed. They had a right to love BOTH parents regardless of the breakdown between him & Ms E. Sad. She was wrong. But she's still hurting clearly.
Extremely on point! Literally everything you said!🙌
*Tamar's crying* ....and the Razzie goes toooooo....🙄🏆
Finally. THE proper review.
So true. If u go against the older then u are disrespectful. So true. Its like that in my family.
Sha e In most Black families we try and be respectful, and we certainly wouldn’t disagree or call our mother out on national tv, even if we should. Many of us just DON’T do that!
Sha e my family too!
My family also that’s why I don’t speak to them at all to toxic
It was a mess... Ms Evelyn was disappointing and Tamar is a 40 year old Juvenile . The rest are too passive especially Toni
This review has me f***ing dying! I LOVE IT! Soooo true! Lmao “on the 95, going to Taco Bell gonna get 3 crunchy tacos” LMAO!!
Dineva, the Braxton sisters are fixated on their stage of development when their mother and father divorced. They all have aged physically, however even Trina and Towanda you can see clearly they have the same dynamic with their parents that they had when they were in their early teens.
Yep even down to calling her “mommy”
Yes, it's do obvious how they are in a state of arrested development.
Absolutely, Arrested Development...
@@lonniex4237 Oooh! I hate it when over 30+ adults still uses Mommy.
I'm glad that Traci was finally acknowledged and got the proper apology that she deserved. Traci's life matters too.
Your honesty and candor is much needed and very much appreciated. I love you for being relatable. I love the way you think and the way you express yourself. The way you weave through the bs and just keep it real. You are a blessing to me and many more.
I just saw a video with Trina being interviewed. And she was asked about Tamar's apology to them all, it "WAS" short lived. Per Trina!
Dana Wilson she says it was short lived based on her being GUARED around them and putting a wall up, not in how they felt she treated them
I’ve BEEEEN WAITING FOR THIS I CLICKED SO FAST LOL
Mark Fisher yes me too
Right😂😂
@Lashaunda Green Gossip me too
You’re review is PERFECT and ABSOLUTE TRUTH👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Yes!!! I was waiting for you to do a review on this ..THANK YOU!!!!
The over dramatic crying she did at the end was ridiculous. If you notice not one tear fell from that face.
I was so pissed !! 😂😂😂 like I KNOW THEY AIN'T FALLIN FOR THAT SHIT 😂😂😂
SixOne ThaJuice yes its like she had finally recognized she was a bitch the entire time so now she wants sympathy
Gia Gia omg Yessss Trina looked away not to laugh if y’all noticed 🤦🏾♀️
They all felt awkward 😳😒
I eye rolled like hell. I felt NOTHING. Theatrics.
Omg not on tear. My grandma was pissed at her overly animated ass
What about when Tamar said ,"who talks to me like that"? I said wow! She's used to disrespecting everyone .
K Bailey and she said who talks to anyone like that ??? ..... she wasn’t just talking about herself
IsaidwhatISaid ! She said that AFTER she said “who talks to me like that”
I like Tamar but she is entitled spoiled and for me cancelled 🤷🏾♀️
I was waiting for her to say "I am Tamar THEE Braxton! King Kong ain't got nothin' on me!" Lol
That line was telling
I noticed that straight away and was like there we have it. She's a straight narcissist.
Tamar gets that attitude from her momma.
This commentary was amazing. My soul needed this, thank you 🙌🏽
When you said they had their heads down I Caught that!!!! For God Sakes They Still call her Mommie Like Little Children!!!
I still call my Mom Mommy. 😍
Annette Richard what works for you
Works for your relationship! Momma is Good for me!
I look at my parents right in the eye and dare them to even think about hitting me. They know that it would be their last day on earth. I don't give a damn. I don't hold my head down. I look them right in the eyes.
moonewitch exactly!!!!!!!
@@pfowler8310 I am not down with letting anyone make me bow my head but the most high. I tell everyone in my family that if they want respect they had better damn well give it in return.