Another similarity is vegapunk saying there has been an ongoing war in secrecy for 800 years, whereas no one knew the raid on onigashima was going on during their festival.
This fits with my theory that the term king of the pirates is a misunderstanding/mistranslation, and actually the term is "the pirate king" and instead of meaning king of pirates, it means the king who was a pirate
Imagine if Gol D Roger was actually royalty in his homeland(not sure if the island Loguetown was in had a king) but decided to be a pirate instead. That would really add to his words to refuse Shiki's offer and may explain why the World Government hid Roger's family name of Gol. Remember they didn't remove his D on his poster but merged it with his family name. Perhaps his family were important.
Stretching more than luffy on this one. As far as we know joyboy was never known as the pirate king, and the one person we know who was is not known to have been a king of any sort beforehand. I'd be glad to be wrong but I dont see it.
@@ReiseLukas if his family was important many others would have known his family name and wouldnt have made the mistranslation of Gold for Gol D. very doubtful Roger was of royal blood.
The fact that Joyboy was the "first pirate" implies that freedom was restricted even in the Ancient Kingdom. Maybe the D clan aren't the good guys either and perhaps it was overthrown because of its evil. The World Government could've started as good and spiraled down to what it is now.
It says nowhere that people weren’t allowed to sail the seas. He was labeled a pirate for his actions while sailing the seas, they were seen as crimes.
Wow that's actually a good theory. I mean why would 20 kingdoms agree to unite to take down one kingdom? Because that one kingdom is evil and a threat to the rest of the world.
If the Void Century flashback truly parallels Oden's, then I feel really bad for Toki as she would have had to experience basically the same events twice.
So would you say nobody else was sailing the seas before Joyboy including the other kingdoms? If so for what reason?. What if Poseidon ruled the seas at the time of Joyboy, controlling the Sea Kings to dominate them. It would interesting if Joyboy, born with the original Voice of All Things, was able to communicate and become an ally of Poseidon to then freely sail the seas. The new freedom as the first Pirate allowed him to become an ally of Zunesha too who nobody would have seen before if they weren't exploring the seas. Wano was closed off for a reason derived from the time of Joyboy, but there must have been a huge reason to deny sea travel for the Ancient Kingdom.
@Nightsu Sure, but if he's the first pirate, who else sailed the seas? We don't have enough information but the first implies no one else was doing it before them. So we have no idea about the sea levels or anything but have been told that the levels rose. I can only think for now that there were large land masses that made sea travel unnecessary until more information is revealed.
I think when vegapunk says that joyboy is the first person to take to the seas i think he means that Joyboy was the first person to conquer the seas and travelled all over the world since if u reread only vegapunk's dialouge in 1115 u get a feel that Vegapunk is trying to say that Joyboy was only labeled a Pirate once he spread his counter ideology to his group or allies which must of been international or globally making them pirates too which the 20 Kings feared his influence, the ancient kingdom would only be a secondary threat due to them making the ancient weapons and possibly devil fruits
@@jimbeam-ru1my yea you proved my point there were already sailors on the seas a millenia ago and some criminals too ofc but Joyboy was the first to get the label of pirate, morj theory isnt wrong per se as i thought the exact same during chapter 1114 its just that vegapunk gave more context to it in 1115 while still being vague glossing over things
i agree with your points Morj, although i just simply wouldn’t bet on Joy Boy’s story to be an absolute mirror of only Oden’s story. More like, we’ve gone through so many arcs and various motives like to repeat themselves over and over. I would bet that Void Century/Joy Boy’s story is going to be a mixed culmination of everything we’ve experienced throughout Luffy’s story so far. It’s a spiral
I have always thought that Joy Boy was a Kozuki, and that is the reason why Oda intertwines the panels of Joyboy's return with those of Hiyori saying that Kozukis always keep their promises.
@@Joyboyx07I mean there are many parallels between Joyboy and Christ. Christ had his disciples, with one betraying him, it’s theorized that Joyboy was betrayed by a member of the D clan, that would be Blackbeard family seeing how he is the only D that doesn’t smile near death. Christ said that the world will despise him and the “world” government hates Joyboy. Joyboy had the NIKA fruit which is the sun god, while Christ is the son of god. Even the term IC XC NIKA literally means Jesus Christ Conquers
Saw this vid getting flamed on r/memepiece and was expecting it to be bad but this is a good video. Why is everyone crying about it? Is it the fan art or the theory? Either way seems weird.
Kidd ain't even interesting anymore, he sucks, his power sucks, hell even his crew except Killer suck, bois got whopped twice already, he can't contest Chopper, so no rival for Luffy, let it go, let's forget about Kidd and the terrible writing
@@Harinjo916Everything you just said applies to you and the kidd haters. Me, Moriah, and many others want to see Kidd realize his potential instead of being a wasted character.
@@walterholyfield3203 You took it too personally, first signs of being immature. I am just stating facts, nothing I said is false, well maybe about his power since it's subjective but realistically it kinda does suck, but yeah. Whatever, kiddo
@@Harinjo916 You took it personal young one maybe you got too emotional? You under the original comment hating and I told you your opinion isnt the majority. Take it how you want it but dont paint me as upset cause you are scrub😂🤯
This is a solid theory, especially knowing what we know about the Ancient Kingdom being submerged; it parallels old Wano being submerged under current Wano
Addung to this: Elbaf was probably still an island back in the days of the supercontinent, and Joyboy traveled to it and established himself as a legend after defeating numerous Giant warriors. He also battled Sea Kings hand to hand, flooring the expectations of everyone because only powerful battleships could hope to cobtend with them. He also fought the creatures who are now known as the Gorosei. Joyboys journey was likely similar to Luffys, except instead of trying to find the One Piece, he was sailing all over, fighting everyone who would dare try to match his strength.
Joyboy is like Noland, and the ancient kingdom is like Shandora. Imu was like Enel, commanding the 20 kingdoms like Endel did with skypia. The 5 elders are the priests. It would imply Imu destroyed his home land like Enel did, maybe the moon, somehow rendering it inhospitable. He more or less does the same to the One piece world right now, rising water levels and all.
I think the D is just a symbol just like the half moon that was on the feet of the kozuki supporters. Might seem really really REALLY silly, but, The first names of the people with D. in their names are the names of Joyboy's vassals (Jaguar, Trafalgar, Marshall, Gol, Portgas, etc.) If we follow the whole inherited will thing, then it makes sense that as support grew, others took on the D. in their name, the same way the kozuki supporters took the half moon symbol in show of support/allegiance.
Loved this video and a lot of Morj’s points have been my head cannon for a while, however, I can’t help but think maybe JB was like Sabo and Imu was like Stelly and Imu’s plan is pretty much Gray Terminal, but on a global scale.
The sea kings probably played a part as to why Joyboy was the first pirate. Maybe the seas were unable to be safely sailed because of the sea kings but Joyboy and ancient Shirahoshi changed that somehow and opened up the sea for safe travel, at least for them.
I am gonna be brutally honest. I HATE the idea of Joyboy being the king of the ancient kingdom. I have full faith if that is the case that Oda won't disappoint mind you. Just speaking on my own preferences.
Something is clearly missing here. How is joyboy the first pirate when vegapunk clearly says there were multiple continents and that they were much more advanced than the present day. If that is true sea trading and people wanting to attack the trade ships would have been there already. Another thing to consider what did joyboy want to discover what was the allure that made him go to sea. I think in joyboys time there were legends just as present day and that something very big had happened before that made sea travel almost impossible. I think vegapunk is Missing a huge piece about the history before joyboy's time a history if a time where there were pirats and sea trade but then something thing big happened and it all stopped and tge first one to try again was joyboy.
Have yall notice in every arc theres one character who betrays luffy then apologizes as well? Mr.2, Ussop, nami,sanji, and so on think about it they do it because they got no choice but then realized their mistakes. II have more to add to this theory that proves it right. My background 11 years worth of rereading the manga and show. I go deep as well nice to see common fellas!
Lovely analysis. I would add that the story of Oden is a story of misunderstanding as he acted righteously but never cared to correct and share his side of the story which seems to be close to what JoyBoy storymight be and the poneglyyphthe attempt of telling his side.
10:26 if we are paralleling 'Dawn of the World'/Will of D. to 'Open Wano's Border'/Will of Kozuki then could Kanjuro a parallel to the "Evil" D's like Blackbeard and (maybe) Rocks ?
I never saw Joy Boy as a king or representative of the ancient kingdom. The reason why he's always connected to it in our point of view is because he wrote the Poneglyph which is the only remaining object that wasn't removed from the void century. But I do feel like he could be an Oden like character who is an innate leader and might have gotten the King role after he set out as a pirate.
I find it significantly more likely that the story of Joyboy is going to parallel the Kuma flashback moreso than the Oden one. Kuma was a pirate, a priest, a king, a revolutionary, and a buccaneer. No character could possibly be a better parallel besides Luffy.
There’s also the interesting parallel of opening Wano’s borders and the theory that Luffy will eventually have to tear down the red line. Both would involve tearing down a massive landmass to remove water from the land (Old Wano and the flooded One piece world). Love the video, I bet there’s a ton more connections to be made.
I wouldn’t say we heard about the dawn only in wano it started being enforced since like zou with the minks. And u also have symbolic stuff like the sunny
Still feels too simple and underwhelming. I hope Oda has more shocking revelations than that. I would like it if Joy Boy is greyer and more flawed so it makes the conflict between him and the 20 Kings a lot more nuanced.
i like this theory cause you can also draw a lot of parallels to sabos story, he was raised as a noble and ran away to become a pirate, met luffy and ace and tried to set sail
Joy boy was a traveling merchant. Trading goods and ideas. And when the land he traveled was covered by the sea, he continued nonetheless, as a pirate.
Luffy is Joy Boy. At the end of the series Luffy gets teleported back into the past to stop the 800 year rule of the WG but in effect creates himself. That’s how Oda and his partner know the rebellion/dawn will happen in 20 years
@@nathanking2098 exactly my thoughts! There is this consistent trend of parallel or opposites so I’d imagine it’s sort of a butterfly effect meets AOT thing
I believe the D clan had the ability to turn dreams to devil fruits like the other technology vegapunk can’t replicate. Which would tie in to joyboy being the first pirate and someone somehow cursing him to die by sea. I posted this before finishing the video so I don’t forget, might delete later idk lol
pluton being built in an already extant water 7 by advanced shipwrights during the void century indicates there was definitely some access to sailing during it
what if people saw the nika fruit in action. they saw what joyboy did to the ancient country/his home country. and then they were like "nah we gotta avoid that at all cost." and thats when they split up into the world govrment vs clan d. maybe clan d stands for drown, and the world goverment won. flood the world and you get rid of all the plant life/people who cant swim nd the fruit stops growing, because the planet is flooding and there barely any land to grow plants
To add to this, you could say that Wano further showcases Wano because A. Wano also has a tyrannical ruler, afraid of somebody stronger (and freeer) then himself coming to undermine his authority and undo the revenge he has plotted. B) the scabbards and the likely allies of Joyboy failed, and feel apologetic. No crew that all fought their hardest has ever felt apologetic. Example Shank’s crew are all stoic. The same can be said for Roger’s crew. Rayleigh has “failed” but simultaneously he knows that it simply wasn’t his time and he never did anything to get in Roger’s way. Meanwhile the scabbards could not stand besides and convince their lewder to stand up, they couldnt protect him and give back the ciurage that he once gave them. Similarly the WB pirates, all being young, “children” of WB, and not strong enough, similarly all feel kinda bad for Marine Ford. Here it was again his own crew that did not “stand by him” in the sense that they did not have the same unwavering conviction as him. I believe in the end the strawhats will stand by Luffy when he himself begins to lose hope and possinly even lose some of that gear 5 magic. This moment will (in my head) be instigated by Ussopp, concluding his character arc. This is why he had to CLEARLY remain a coward until that moment. A single moment so big it makes you almost happy you had to wait so long to get it.
Other similarities not mentioned: Kozuki Oden's followers had a symbol to stealthily show their alegiance to the Kozuki's = Moon Could be the same with Joyboy's allies = D After Oden loses, Wano is ruled over by a Dragon After Joyboy loses, the world is ruled over by Dragons (Tenryuubito)
All of this fan art depicts Joy Boy as this badass Luffy clone. Watch Oda draw him as a weird ugly giant or something
preach brother
Joyboy I think will be a monkey Mink, looking like Sun Wukong
Its most likely gonna be jarring and im here for it
Who else has "D" and "Black" in their name? Demaro Black, fake Joyboy. Real JB probably looks like that.
Joy Boy might not even be a dude 😂
this is the closest we will get to a Wano Analysis video, folks
😂😂😂
I still have hope it'll be out before One Piece ends 🙌
Another similarity is vegapunk saying there has been an ongoing war in secrecy for 800 years, whereas no one knew the raid on onigashima was going on during their festival.
Also, Luffy never wants credit for being a "good" pirate. He's just destabilize these countries for the fun of it.
@@brutechieftain9321no, he doesn't want credit for being a hero.
@Coltshero so you're saying the dawn of the world will fail?
@@ReiseLukas because a hero needs to share his food xD
Yes it's based on our world. Just do a little research on mitras and you will know.
This fits with my theory that the term king of the pirates is a misunderstanding/mistranslation, and actually the term is "the pirate king" and instead of meaning king of pirates, it means the king who was a pirate
Imagine if Gol D Roger was actually royalty in his homeland(not sure if the island Loguetown was in had a king) but decided to be a pirate instead.
That would really add to his words to refuse Shiki's offer and may explain why the World Government hid Roger's family name of Gol. Remember they didn't remove his D on his poster but merged it with his family name. Perhaps his family were important.
Damn I hadn't thought about that
Stretching more than luffy on this one. As far as we know joyboy was never known as the pirate king, and the one person we know who was is not known to have been a king of any sort beforehand. I'd be glad to be wrong but I dont see it.
@@ReiseLukas if his family was important many others would have known his family name and wouldnt have made the mistranslation of Gold for Gol D. very doubtful Roger was of royal blood.
Then the pirate king is the guy who can charge his punch with shadow boxing.
He always comes in clutch when im bouta eat
fr lol
I was just sitting down and saw "uploaded 4 minutes ago" lol
Same
HE EAT’N BEANS 👆👆🗣️🗣️
😂😂😂
The fact that Joyboy was the "first pirate" implies that freedom was restricted even in the Ancient Kingdom. Maybe the D clan aren't the good guys either and perhaps it was overthrown because of its evil. The World Government could've started as good and spiraled down to what it is now.
It says nowhere that people weren’t allowed to sail the seas. He was labeled a pirate for his actions while sailing the seas, they were seen as crimes.
Wow that's actually a good theory. I mean why would 20 kingdoms agree to unite to take down one kingdom? Because that one kingdom is evil and a threat to the rest of the world.
i mean we can sail the seas but we not pirates
“Raid will fail” was just a ruse to hide the fact that you have future sight fr
If the Void Century flashback truly parallels Oden's, then I feel really bad for Toki as she would have had to experience basically the same events twice.
I have a theory that Toki is actually Nefratari D Lily
@@Metronomical3 where are the supporting details of this "theory"? otherwise, this is just an abstract notion.
@@Shr1nkk bro hes just throwing ideas out there its pretty reasonable
@@mochaqjava I didnt say it was unreasonable. Just being informative by clarifying the difference between the two brotha ;)
@@Shr1nkk theory in general conversation doesnt have to have evidence or supporting details
So would you say nobody else was sailing the seas before Joyboy including the other kingdoms? If so for what reason?.
What if Poseidon ruled the seas at the time of Joyboy, controlling the Sea Kings to dominate them. It would interesting if Joyboy, born with the original Voice of All Things, was able to communicate and become an ally of Poseidon to then freely sail the seas. The new freedom as the first Pirate allowed him to become an ally of Zunesha too who nobody would have seen before if they weren't exploring the seas.
Wano was closed off for a reason derived from the time of Joyboy, but there must have been a huge reason to deny sea travel for the Ancient Kingdom.
The simple answer is that there was a lot of land so they may not have had seas to sail as vast as now.
@@rensten4893 This was the time of Joyboy before the sea levels rose. And even then any sea no matter how big would be sailed for trade routes.
@Nightsu Sure, but if he's the first pirate, who else sailed the seas? We don't have enough information but the first implies no one else was doing it before them. So we have no idea about the sea levels or anything but have been told that the levels rose. I can only think for now that there were large land masses that made sea travel unnecessary until more information is revealed.
I think when vegapunk says that joyboy is the first person to take to the seas i think he means that Joyboy was the first person to conquer the seas and travelled all over the world since if u reread only vegapunk's dialouge in 1115 u get a feel that Vegapunk is trying to say that Joyboy was only labeled a Pirate once he spread his counter ideology to his group or allies which must of been international or globally making them pirates too which the 20 Kings feared his influence, the ancient kingdom would only be a secondary threat due to them making the ancient weapons and possibly devil fruits
@@jimbeam-ru1my yea you proved my point there were already sailors on the seas a millenia ago and some criminals too ofc but Joyboy was the first to get the label of pirate, morj theory isnt wrong per se as i thought the exact same during chapter 1114 its just that vegapunk gave more context to it in 1115 while still being vague glossing over things
Joy Boy and Oden mirroring each other's lives would be so satisfying to read.
No but actually you’re fucking insane for that thumbnail Morj
A man getting crucified... Brutal
I agree
Hahaha who y’alls panties in a bunch. Wooow a man getting crucified just like many many MANY other ppl show.
Blasphemy
Why? It's paralleling the second coming of Christ according to Christian canon. Oda likes parallels with various religions.
So Joyboy was 100 years old if he was born 900 years ago and died at the end of the void century 800 years ago right? Could support the giant theory.
Keep the thumbnail. Don't listen to comments Morj.
i agree with your points Morj, although i just simply wouldn’t bet on Joy Boy’s story to be an absolute mirror of only Oden’s story. More like, we’ve gone through so many arcs and various motives like to repeat themselves over and over.
I would bet that Void Century/Joy Boy’s story is going to be a mixed culmination of everything we’ve experienced throughout Luffy’s story so far. It’s a spiral
Odens the key to all this. We just have to get this character to work
-George Oda
I have always thought that Joy Boy was a Kozuki, and that is the reason why Oda intertwines the panels of Joyboy's return with those of Hiyori saying that Kozukis always keep their promises.
That would be cool as fuck
Yes, joyboy's raid failed 😂😂
Joy boy ❌
Jesus Boy 👍🏻
How is it related to Jesus? Its just a character being depicted in a form of torture. Dont idolize dude get over yourself.
repent
@@Joyboyx07 bro ☠️ I'm atheist, it's just a joke
@@Joyboyx07I mean there are many parallels between Joyboy and Christ. Christ had his disciples, with one betraying him, it’s theorized that Joyboy was betrayed by a member of the D clan, that would be Blackbeard family seeing how he is the only D that doesn’t smile near death. Christ said that the world will despise him and the “world” government hates Joyboy. Joyboy had the NIKA fruit which is the sun god, while Christ is the son of god. Even the term IC XC NIKA literally means Jesus Christ Conquers
Okay morj, we knowyoure delaying the wano analysis because you want more details
Let's compromise
Do a quick one now and then do a retrospective
Saw this vid getting flamed on r/memepiece and was expecting it to be bad but this is a good video. Why is everyone crying about it? Is it the fan art or the theory? Either way seems weird.
We need a Eustass Kidd video. Jika will be returning during the Elbaf arc and receive peak development! We believe in the damned one
Kidd ain't even interesting anymore, he sucks, his power sucks, hell even his crew except Killer suck, bois got whopped twice already, he can't contest Chopper, so no rival for Luffy, let it go, let's forget about Kidd and the terrible writing
@@Harinjo916Everything you just said applies to you and the kidd haters. Me, Moriah, and many others want to see Kidd realize his potential instead of being a wasted character.
@@walterholyfield3203 You took it too personally, first signs of being immature. I am just stating facts, nothing I said is false, well maybe about his power since it's subjective but realistically it kinda does suck, but yeah. Whatever, kiddo
@@Harinjo916 You took it personal young one maybe you got too emotional? You under the original comment hating and I told you your opinion isnt the majority. Take it how you want it but dont paint me as upset cause you are scrub😂🤯
@@Harinjo916 hes coming back after the demaro black foreshadowing.
This is a solid theory, especially knowing what we know about the Ancient Kingdom being submerged; it parallels old Wano being submerged under current Wano
just as it was uploaded
Beat me to it lol
What happened
Addung to this: Elbaf was probably still an island back in the days of the supercontinent, and Joyboy traveled to it and established himself as a legend after defeating numerous Giant warriors. He also battled Sea Kings hand to hand, flooring the expectations of everyone because only powerful battleships could hope to cobtend with them. He also fought the creatures who are now known as the Gorosei. Joyboys journey was likely similar to Luffys, except instead of trying to find the One Piece, he was sailing all over, fighting everyone who would dare try to match his strength.
One piece didn’t existed when he was around
He created it
Joyboy is like Noland, and the ancient kingdom is like Shandora. Imu was like Enel, commanding the 20 kingdoms like Endel did with skypia. The 5 elders are the priests. It would imply Imu destroyed his home land like Enel did, maybe the moon, somehow rendering it inhospitable. He more or less does the same to the One piece world right now, rising water levels and all.
moon.... or sun? nika is the sun god after all
Great theory Morj man
I think the D is just a symbol just like the half moon that was on the feet of the kozuki supporters. Might seem really really REALLY silly, but, The first names of the people with D. in their names are the names of Joyboy's vassals (Jaguar, Trafalgar, Marshall, Gol, Portgas, etc.) If we follow the whole inherited will thing, then it makes sense that as support grew, others took on the D. in their name, the same way the kozuki supporters took the half moon symbol in show of support/allegiance.
You are a chef
To go even further, what if it isn't a D. What if it's a smile?
Unless I see Law smile I won't believe he's a vassal.
Were the shimotsoki pirates? Cause they left before oden
Sorry morj, "seeked" isn't a word. Great video tho lol
What is the past verb for seek ?
@@kollen5952sought
@@kollen5952sought. Kinda a weird one lol
Definitely the best joy boy video ive seen, you got me hyped
Loved this video and a lot of Morj’s points have been my head cannon for a while, however, I can’t help but think maybe JB was like Sabo and Imu was like Stelly and Imu’s plan is pretty much Gray Terminal, but on a global scale.
most likely gona be reminiscent of alabasta with mr 0 as imu and vivi as joyboy becoming a pirate
The sea kings probably played a part as to why Joyboy was the first pirate. Maybe the seas were unable to be safely sailed because of the sea kings but Joyboy and ancient Shirahoshi changed that somehow and opened up the sea for safe travel, at least for them.
Can we truly rule out that Imu isn’t the OG Joyboy?
When a fruit user dies, fruit reproduces elsewhere in the world. Therefore meaning joyboy died cause the Nika fruit is with luffy not still with him
I am gonna be brutally honest. I HATE the idea of Joyboy being the king of the ancient kingdom. I have full faith if that is the case that Oda won't disappoint mind you. Just speaking on my own preferences.
Something is clearly missing here. How is joyboy the first pirate when vegapunk clearly says there were multiple continents and that they were much more advanced than the present day.
If that is true sea trading and people wanting to attack the trade ships would have been there already.
Another thing to consider what did joyboy want to discover what was the allure that made him go to sea.
I think in joyboys time there were legends just as present day and that something very big had happened before that made sea travel almost impossible. I think vegapunk is Missing a huge piece about the history before joyboy's time a history if a time where there were pirats and sea trade but then something thing big happened and it all stopped and tge first one to try again was joyboy.
why celestial dragon supposed to be this stupid? is Laugh ffy also celestial dragon?
Have yall notice in every arc theres one character who betrays luffy then apologizes as well? Mr.2, Ussop, nami,sanji, and so on think about it they do it because they got no choice but then realized their mistakes. II have more to add to this theory that proves it right. My background 11 years worth of rereading the manga and show. I go deep as well nice to see common fellas!
Lovely analysis.
I would add that the story of Oden is a story of misunderstanding as he acted righteously but never cared to correct and share his side of the story which seems to be close to what JoyBoy storymight be and the poneglyyphthe attempt of telling his side.
Any reason why Roger couldn’t ask Toki to send him forward in time 20 years?
ahhh perfect video for my dinner time , thanks morj how did you know it was my dinner time ?
This is just an excuse for morj to say that the RAID to mariejois will FAIL
Oh man.. nowadays i am afraid to watch mr.morj videos thinking what if it's true
This is the closest we’re gonna get to the Wano analysis video 😂
On todays episode of morj spoiling the story 6 months in advance…
Insane thumbnail
Moj deserve atleast 500k his theory is just fire
We don’t have enough to speculate yet but good video idea still
risky move depicting joy boy as jesus but still great video
10:26 if we are paralleling 'Dawn of the World'/Will of D. to 'Open Wano's Border'/Will of Kozuki then could Kanjuro a parallel to the "Evil" D's like Blackbeard and (maybe) Rocks ?
I wish Joyboy was real and could save the real world too 🙏
Nice thumbnail 😂
I never saw Joy Boy as a king or representative of the ancient kingdom. The reason why he's always connected to it in our point of view is because he wrote the Poneglyph which is the only remaining object that wasn't removed from the void century. But I do feel like he could be an Oden like character who is an innate leader and might have gotten the King role after he set out as a pirate.
I find it significantly more likely that the story of Joyboy is going to parallel the Kuma flashback moreso than the Oden one. Kuma was a pirate, a priest, a king, a revolutionary, and a buccaneer. No character could possibly be a better parallel besides Luffy.
This doesn’t count as the wano analysis.
Why is joyboy crucifying 😅😅
In thumbnail
There’s also the interesting parallel of opening Wano’s borders and the theory that Luffy will eventually have to tear down the red line. Both would involve tearing down a massive landmass to remove water from the land (Old Wano and the flooded One piece world). Love the video, I bet there’s a ton more connections to be made.
So morj Kaido was a giant serpent/dragon but specifically the fish fish fruit. This makes me think even more Imu is Jormungandr
Hope the continent pullers get some back story with the rising sea levels being an issue
Can the raid at onigashima still fail? 😢
I wouldn’t say we heard about the dawn only in wano it started being enforced since like zou with the minks. And u also have symbolic stuff like the sunny
Joyboy died on the cross for all our sins
3:41 *sought
The thing that excites me is that we will see this in the next few years…
Was waiting on this one
800 years is some future sight
Calling it now. Zunesha is Judas
Could the "great crime" Zunesha referred to on Wano be the desertion of the ancient kingdom to set out to sea alongside Joyboy?
this thumbnail is wild LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
What i learned from this video: "The Dawn" = Dadan. Dadan will bring the dawn confirmed.
Still feels too simple and underwhelming. I hope Oda has more shocking revelations than that. I would like it if Joy Boy is greyer and more flawed so it makes the conflict between him and the 20 Kings a lot more nuanced.
That thumbnail is insane
What s the soundtrack of this video? If i can know. I really like it and want to listen to it
Joy Boy will have an eye patch
Wtf is this thumbnail pajeet
MORJ READ THE CHAINSAW MAN CHAPTER BEFORE YOU GET SPOILED
Sooooo…..
Yamato is Joyboy? 🤣
i guess this is the closest thing to the wano video we´ll get
i like this theory cause you can also draw a lot of parallels to sabos story, he was raised as a noble and ran away to become a pirate, met luffy and ace and tried to set sail
That thumbnail is amazing …
Joy boy was a traveling merchant. Trading goods and ideas. And when the land he traveled was covered by the sea, he continued nonetheless, as a pirate.
Luffy is Joy Boy. At the end of the series Luffy gets teleported back into the past to stop the 800 year rule of the WG but in effect creates himself. That’s how Oda and his partner know the rebellion/dawn will happen in 20 years
We've already seen a future fruit, maybe there's one that lets you go back in time?
@@nathanking2098 exactly my thoughts! There is this consistent trend of parallel or opposites so I’d imagine it’s sort of a butterfly effect meets AOT thing
Hope im not too late (3 minutes)
they should've called him Joy Man cause he was 100 years old
Joy Boy died for our sins?
I believe the D clan had the ability to turn dreams to devil fruits like the other technology vegapunk can’t replicate. Which would tie in to joyboy being the first pirate and someone somehow cursing him to die by sea. I posted this before finishing the video so I don’t forget, might delete later idk lol
pluton being built in an already extant water 7 by advanced shipwrights during the void century indicates there was definitely some access to sailing during it
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Joyboy may have had a little brother who started the kozuki lineage
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what if people saw the nika fruit in action. they saw what joyboy did to the ancient country/his home country. and then they were like "nah we gotta avoid that at all cost." and thats when they split up into the world govrment vs clan d.
maybe clan d stands for drown, and the world goverment won.
flood the world and you get rid of all the plant life/people who cant swim
nd the fruit stops growing, because the planet is flooding and there barely any land to grow plants
Early gang
lmao jesus
Imu is JB
To add to this, you could say that Wano further showcases Wano because A. Wano also has a tyrannical ruler, afraid of somebody stronger (and freeer) then himself coming to undermine his authority and undo the revenge he has plotted. B) the scabbards and the likely allies of Joyboy failed, and feel apologetic. No crew that all fought their hardest has ever felt apologetic. Example Shank’s crew are all stoic. The same can be said for Roger’s crew. Rayleigh has “failed” but simultaneously he knows that it simply wasn’t his time and he never did anything to get in Roger’s way. Meanwhile the scabbards could not stand besides and convince their lewder to stand up, they couldnt protect him and give back the ciurage that he once gave them. Similarly the WB pirates, all being young, “children” of WB, and not strong enough, similarly all feel kinda bad for Marine Ford. Here it was again his own crew that did not “stand by him” in the sense that they did not have the same unwavering conviction as him.
I believe in the end the strawhats will stand by Luffy when he himself begins to lose hope and possinly even lose some of that gear 5 magic. This moment will (in my head) be instigated by Ussopp, concluding his character arc. This is why he had to CLEARLY remain a coward until that moment. A single moment so big it makes you almost happy you had to wait so long to get it.
Other similarities not mentioned:
Kozuki Oden's followers had a symbol to stealthily show their alegiance to the Kozuki's = Moon
Could be the same with Joyboy's allies = D
After Oden loses, Wano is ruled over by a Dragon
After Joyboy loses, the world is ruled over by Dragons (Tenryuubito)
The Name of the ancient Kingdom is
Pangea…
There is your parallel, Pangea Castle is the original palace of the ancient Kingdom…