Why is Hollywood Afraid of Batman?
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Batman is a character with many different interpretations and adaptations, but rarely do we get a take on Batman that fully embraces his comic book roots. Why is Hollywood afraid to take on this version of Batman?
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I want more of the Burtonverse. His batman is a mix of darkness, gritty, serious & fantasy
agreed! was disappointed to see how afraid they were of Burton's style in The Flash.
@justmashpodcastnetwork3512 yeah I don't understand why they were scared of Burton's style of Batman. Tim Burton's Batman 1989 & Batman Returns are literally the best batman movies. It's like they shy from that style in the flash
@@Mike-t5r9q exactly. it's like they were afraid to do anything visually interesting or unique with the most visually interesting version of Batman. Not to mention how much of his scenes are in the daytime whereas Burton kept the Batman in the dark
@justmashpodcastnetwork3512 I think it's James Gunn's fault because in the past that douchebag talked shit about Burton's Batman. I'm still waiting for Burton's Batman 3 I've been waiting since 1995. I'm sick of modern day Batman too grounded to the point that it's just boring especially Nolan's trilogy they literally don't feel like batman movies his Gotham is basically just Chicago there's nothing Gothic about it.... The Batman is a improvement but still not as good as Burton's Batman
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There are so many tones and variations of characters even in the comics throughout his 85+ year history. The cool thing about it is that the mythos itself is a sandbox of numerous ideas. Batman can be gritty crime noir, scifi, supernatural horror, etc. I think there are a lot of people who just legitimately find the more stripped down gritty street level crime stories to be the most interesting for them, and even find something creatively stimulating in figuring out how to unravel the fantasy of some characters and do them in a way that makes sense in a more real world context while still keeping the core ideas. Resulting in this sort of stylized and exaggerated borderline but not completely heightened reality. Kind of like how batman himself is a lot of the time tbf. A guy with no super powers but wears a bat costume and has some bleeding edge tech. A lot of people go on about more realistic versions of batman not being comic accurate, but thats kind of weird to me considering just how much variety there is in comics. Take the golden age. Clayface was just a guy in a mask originally. Frankly lot of the original golden age depictions were way more subdued compared to how a lot of people know them now. So if they want to do characters that way, is that not comic accurate? And then of course you have all the non canon stories throughout the years that do their own thing as well. The Cobblepot thing seemed a bit unnecessary, but I kind of chalk it up to maybe the fact that its just because this particular version of the Penguin isn't from some old money british family, and so they changed it just to better suit his situation and background in this universe.
That is why i really like "Gotham" - it really managed in my opinion to preserve the campy atmosphere of the Batverse
True! by the end of it Gotham definitely felt like they were doing as much of the camp from Batman's history as they could, which was pretty fun watching.
For Hollywood to be afraid of Batman just scare factor of Batman to a whole nother level
That was almost, almost a sentence in English.
I feel like making Batman ultra-realistic in its own isolated universe a la Nolan or Reeves, makes it fine to eliminate all the supernatural elements and thus heroes and villains can be removed as well. It just depends what type of art you're trying to create.
I definitely agree, would just like to see someone take a crack at making something less realistic but all takes on the character are valid and welcome as long as they're good.
Because it's hard to cram 90 years of evolution into two hours
Great video
Thank you!
I want the whole Bat-family in a movie tracking down Clayface, it's the Fugitive meets the Thing.
I think Oz Cobb is a fake out, the show is gonna reveal that his family is a disgraced old world old money family who lost their fortune over time and their original name is Cobblepot.
they've called him Oswald a couple times already
There's a really great opportunity for a "The Thing" esque take with Clayface and Batman as Macready
Have they not called him Oswald a couple times already im so confused
Nolan's Batman has given casual moviegoers a very wrongful concept about Batman and his lore. Nothing wrong with the man's films, but Batman's concept is dark and silly, simuktaneously, like you said. I hope Gunn brings me a comic booky Batman, and succeeds where Snyder flopped.
Agreed!
The more clearly not real-world Gotham is, the easier the iconography fits. People dressing up in outlandish representations of their superstitions and philosophies has been happening in the real world for thousands of years. It just doesn't happen in Chicago, so this conundrum arises whhere it wouldn't if they jusy made Gotham more Gothamy.
I mean Gotham translates to goat-house why can't a guy have a silly name?
Exactly!