I had some comments about a voltage being present on the iron tip, I had forgotten to check for the tip being earthed and sure enough I am seeing around 90VAC with between 80uA-200uA of current to earth. So I just pulled the unit apart and find out why and fixed the problem, I recorded footage so I will show this in a future video about the issue, it was a VERY EASY fix, and actually makes me wonder if it was a mistake made during manufacture, you will see what I mean when I publish the followup video.
Really good review. It's gotten so soldering stations are super capable and inexpensive. Old loyalties have to be reconsidered if you want bang for the buck. Seems as if you have a station that you are unhappy with in some way it is no problem because there will be a newer less costly alternative on the market next year. I certainly like this station and would consider it if I needed an upgrade to the stuff that I'm currently using. For us home-gamers we really don't need stuff this fancy. Thanks for the video. Much appreciated.
I would like to see you do some reviews on the irons that you already have working, on your bench, especially if they're older than a year. Tell us how well they've held up, especially the tips and heaters. Also, let us know how easy the tips can be replaced, especially after long use. Your desoldering iron would be one of great interest, as I'm thinking of purchasing one like it, myself. It's getting hard to find consumables for my old Ungar desoldering stations.
hello defpom. The benefit of a minimal temperature sleep is to prevent brutal rising heat to a̶v̶o̶i̶d reach temperature setpoint. The brutal heat rising provocate quick dilatation of internal material, inducing thermal dilatation stress, tip and heating element included, and shorten the life scale of the tip. This is why a hot sleep can be savior for the soldering iron.
Genuine JBC stations have sleep as well as hibernate modes for this reason. I think I have sleep set to 100degC and hibernate set to turn heating is off completely.
Seems like this station has the same problem that many other cheap ones: the displayed temperature is not always the actual temp. When it reaches the set point, it starts to display the set point instead of the actual temp. Can be seen when the temp doesn't change at all when you soldered a board with it.
I like the brass tip cleaner. I have something similar on my ancient APC vacuum desoldering station. Since you have one, I will assume the brass tip cleaner is available online. Merry Christmas to you and your family 🎅🤶.
Another great review.. One thing I would like to see if the cables can be burned by the tip or they used heat resistant silicon. Both on the pencil and the sleep cable.
no they can stand heat. The station cost is about 150 dollars min and at this range of price, it perfectly works fine. Also, when you look at cable and handle quality, they withstand heat nicely.
Measure the voltage between PE and the tip, using a digital multimeter, ideally a bench meter with high-impedance inputs. There are reports that the tip reaches voltages approaching 100V, easily capable of zapping components.
Yes I did forget to check for that, you are right there was 90VAC on there, at about 80uA -200uA of current, I just recorded a video on how to fix that problem 🙂
Hi Mr Defpom, can you provide details of your 240v mains monitor with multiple displays please? Ime in Adelaide Australia. Have you ever done a video for this device? Much appreciated. ✌️ ❤ 73 !
I bought this station a couple of months ago. It doesn't deliver the promised power to the tip. I solder quite a lot in my workshop and I can use all the power possible when soldering components to the ground plane. This iron doesn't work well on that, I have to crank the temperature very high to get some effect. In my opinion there is poor thermal conductivity between the heating element and the tip, because the temperature on the display is steady but the tin doesn't want to melt at first. This is again one of the Chinese products that has a potential, it looks good and has a lot of options but doesn't deliver the one function that it is designed for very well. My trusty Weller WSD-81 is still the best I ever had and I tried many of them.
@@slavric have you tried a different tip, I was able to do work on quite large areas, such as large metal strips in battery packs, with only a medium sized tip can’t remember it exactly, might be a K2 or something.
@@TheDefpom I will order a couple of new ones. Maybe from AiXun T3A, those seem to be better. I think the cheapest possible were shipped along the unit. Keep on the good work.
@@slavric lol AiXun are the worst possible tips possible, don't waste your money. Buy genuine JBC is you want real power in your tips. Chinese clone are very bad performing. And they break. (again, Aixun...)
@@hypnoz7871 Thanks for your suggestion. I ordered one "OEM" tip, one good looking knockoff and one set of four for funny price of 10€. Will see what I'll get and might post a reply later if the results will be fine at least with one of them.
Dear God, the beeping. Best investment ever was a microwave that allowed for muting of key beeps. I definitely am opposite your preference of having beep feedback unless it is something you cant immediately tell if the. Key press "took". Lot of effort to review a JBC station knockoff, then "calibrate" with hakko tip tester knockoff.
I have this soldering station for few months and its crap, that power is just on input not on output, that "calibrations" are very bad, it looks like that tips has no temperature sensor. two from three tips f210 disentegrated after few uses. Cheap chinese t12 are better than this. Very disappointed from this soldering station.
@@TheDefpom My came with one 210 tip DOA. But the biggest problem is that the tip is not grounded!!! You can kill components of the circuits in work easily.
I had some comments about a voltage being present on the iron tip, I had forgotten to check for the tip being earthed and sure enough I am seeing around 90VAC with between 80uA-200uA of current to earth. So I just pulled the unit apart and find out why and fixed the problem, I recorded footage so I will show this in a future video about the issue, it was a VERY EASY fix, and actually makes me wonder if it was a mistake made during manufacture, you will see what I mean when I publish the followup video.
observe what happens with the temperature if you try soldering something that is also earthed
Hi, i have this soldering station also. Im waiting your fix video with great interest. I can’t wait for it to be published.
A most appropriate Xmas gift!
All that beeping and those blue LEDs, must be Christmas edition 😅
Really good review. It's gotten so soldering stations are super capable and inexpensive. Old loyalties have to be reconsidered if you want bang for the buck. Seems as if you have a station that you are unhappy with in some way it is no problem because there will be a newer less costly alternative on the market next year. I certainly like this station and would consider it if I needed an upgrade to the stuff that I'm currently using. For us home-gamers we really don't need stuff this fancy. Thanks for the video. Much appreciated.
Merci pour la traduction audio en français 👍
I would like to see you do some reviews on the irons that you already have working, on your bench, especially if they're older than a year. Tell us how well they've held up, especially the tips and heaters. Also, let us know how easy the tips can be replaced, especially after long use. Your desoldering iron would be one of great interest, as I'm thinking of purchasing one like it, myself. It's getting hard to find consumables for my old Ungar desoldering stations.
hello defpom. The benefit of a minimal temperature sleep is to prevent brutal rising heat to a̶v̶o̶i̶d reach temperature setpoint. The brutal heat rising provocate quick dilatation of internal material, inducing thermal dilatation stress, tip and heating element included, and shorten the life scale of the tip. This is why a hot sleep can be savior for the soldering iron.
Genuine JBC stations have sleep as well as hibernate modes for this reason. I think I have sleep set to 100degC and hibernate set to turn heating is off completely.
@@IanScottJohnston yes of course, this prevents quick demise of tools.
what about the tip grounding? Is it safe to solder sensitive components?
Seems like this station has the same problem that many other cheap ones: the displayed temperature is not always the actual temp. When it reaches the set point, it starts to display the set point instead of the actual temp. Can be seen when the temp doesn't change at all when you soldered a board with it.
Looks like a nice unit..Have a Nice Christmas, Scott and Family...2025 will be a good year and remember, BeHappy 😀
I like the brass tip cleaner. I have something similar on my ancient APC vacuum desoldering station. Since you have one, I will assume the brass tip cleaner is available online. Merry Christmas to you and your family 🎅🤶.
Another great review.. One thing I would like to see if the cables can be burned by the tip or they used heat resistant silicon. Both on the pencil and the sleep cable.
no they can stand heat. The station cost is about 150 dollars min and at this range of price, it perfectly works fine. Also, when you look at cable and handle quality, they withstand heat nicely.
Measure the voltage between PE and the tip, using a digital multimeter, ideally a bench meter with high-impedance inputs. There are reports that the tip reaches voltages approaching 100V, easily capable of zapping components.
Yes I did forget to check for that, you are right there was 90VAC on there, at about 80uA -200uA of current, I just recorded a video on how to fix that problem 🙂
@ Oof. How do they think that is acceptable?!?
Hi Mr Defpom, can you provide details of your 240v mains monitor with multiple displays please? Ime in Adelaide Australia.
Have you ever done a video for this device?
Much appreciated.
✌️ ❤ 73 !
I got it from Aliexpress if I remember rightly, search for mains power meter or similar.
@@TheDefpom sweet. Thanks for the reply.
73.
It is called a HOPI, here is one: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006602064222.html
@@TheDefpom sweet.. thanks.
You did not remove the screen protector.
@@Chris_Grossman sorry, I missed doing the “peel porn”
@@TheDefpom 😀
I bought this station a couple of months ago. It doesn't deliver the promised power to the tip. I solder quite a lot in my workshop and I can use all the power possible when soldering components to the ground plane. This iron doesn't work well on that, I have to crank the temperature very high to get some effect. In my opinion there is poor thermal conductivity between the heating element and the tip, because the temperature on the display is steady but the tin doesn't want to melt at first. This is again one of the Chinese products that has a potential, it looks good and has a lot of options but doesn't deliver the one function that it is designed for very well. My trusty Weller WSD-81 is still the best I ever had and I tried many of them.
@@slavric have you tried a different tip, I was able to do work on quite large areas, such as large metal strips in battery packs, with only a medium sized tip can’t remember it exactly, might be a K2 or something.
@@TheDefpom I will order a couple of new ones. Maybe from AiXun T3A, those seem to be better. I think the cheapest possible were shipped along the unit. Keep on the good work.
@@slavric lol AiXun are the worst possible tips possible, don't waste your money.
Buy genuine JBC is you want real power in your tips.
Chinese clone are very bad performing. And they break. (again, Aixun...)
@@hypnoz7871 Thanks for your suggestion. I ordered one "OEM" tip, one good looking knockoff and one set of four for funny price of 10€. Will see what I'll get and might post a reply later if the results will be fine at least with one of them.
Dear God, the beeping. Best investment ever was a microwave that allowed for muting of key beeps. I definitely am opposite your preference of having beep feedback unless it is something you cant immediately tell if the. Key press "took". Lot of effort to review a JBC station knockoff, then "calibrate" with hakko tip tester knockoff.
I have this soldering station for few months and its crap, that power is just on input not on output, that "calibrations" are very bad, it looks like that tips has no temperature sensor. two from three tips f210 disentegrated after few uses. Cheap chinese t12 are better than this. Very disappointed from this soldering station.
@@astalavistatomi thanks for sharing your experience
T3b Station better?
Not enough power
I think it’s plenty.
Hey, go eat your Christmas food now my friend 🙂Ey you done....
I eat in 7 hour +/-
This staion is crap i heard
@@PAB-Elektronik this is now going to be my main station, so time will tell how it holds up compared to my Jabe UD-1200, which I have been happy with.
@@TheDefpom 👍💪💪
@@TheDefpom My main is Hakko T12 soldering station, also have JBC, Aixun 3A, 3B and an old Ksger T12
I think you heard this from JBC's CEO.
@@TheDefpom My came with one 210 tip DOA. But the biggest problem is that the tip is not grounded!!! You can kill components of the circuits in work easily.