Citroen EC3 electric car owners beware! Battery problems revealed! | Electric Vehicles India
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
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A major Battery heating issue is faced by a early Citroen ec3 customer has been addressed in this video. Citroen ec3 is an affordable and value for money electric car which is available in indian market. But there are some issues facing by customers with this electric car. Know what are those issues and overall customer experience with citroen ec3 electric car by watching the whole video.
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00:00 Video Highlights
00:14 Intro
02:02 Cinematic Shorts of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
02:36 Drive Quality of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
03:02 Suspension of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
03:20 Real Range of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
04:14 Performance of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
05:14 Charging Time of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
05:37 Main issue in Citroen EC3 Electric Car
07:39 Elaborating the issue
11:23 Citroen response to the issue
12:38 More issues in Citroen EC3 Electric Car
13:31 Headlights performance of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
15:01 Built Quality of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
15:33 Bootspace of Citroen EC3 Electric Car
16:27 User Rating for Citroen EC3 Electric Car
17:54 Thanks For Watching**
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In the last one month of usage and multiple trips above 300 km one side , temperature above 36 deg , never faced any issue like this on DC fast charging. Also there has been no compatibility issue with any charging station so far. Its been absolutely great user experience till now . The suspension is pure magic. Excellent infotainment system in this price band. Even after 7+ hours of drive , feels as fresh as you start. Easy 9 on 10. My request is to comment on the car only after taking a drive.
Absolutely agree with you , test driven it and loved it. Although I went with Nexon because of family pressure to purchase due to service network
I also never faced any issues, I drove my eC3 for 2500 kms so far, that too in central maharashtra 38 - 40 degrees, it charged on DC fast charger with no issues. it could be the charger issue maybe for the video presenter. The car is amazing
Yeah agreed, am done only 3000 kms but satisfied with this, the only issue i have is rear shocker damaged and they are replacing it, over all its great
I bought in March 2023 . already done 25600 km . Daily use 120km, and already been to long distance city .
I noticed same but than found it was fast charger issue.
Because I use it in very hot climate.
Not a single issue
Surprisingly even after 25k km found no degradation in capacity.
True, yesterday I drove for 400km experience was like cool and budget luxury feeling
Humble and Honest Owner. Explanation on issue with battery heating whilst DC charging is explained so well. Thank you for sharing the experience.
What is the out come of the Regeneration system in this car?
Everyone nowadays do reviews in hindi, I'm happy that you guys did it in English... With love from karnataka
We do in hindi too.. evhindi.in is our channel. we do in telugu too evtelugu.in , we do in tamil too - evtamil.in , we do in kannada too - evkannada.in ..etc
@@ElectricVehiclesIndia awesome but I prefer more English, kannada is also ok...
@@ElectricVehiclesIndia ohh really are you Doing Videos in Kannada wow it's Great.. today I got it ..
I saw many reviews on the eC3 for the Indian market, and they all say battery heat issue. Its interesting to see if this issue will arise when they finally sell these in Indonesia this year, because we literally only have the Wuling AirEV (MG comet in your market) and DFSK mini ev as the competitors. I lean more towards this eC3 as it was more of a "car" than those two. Hopefully they will resolve this issue or maybe our climate didnt make this problem arise for the car. Also, thankyou for the honest review.
All these issue were sorted out. Just dont believe the comments from the people who never owned the car as they are making assumptions. It is the best EV car in India within this budget.
Neta V aja, sayang modelnya jelek yah.. jauh lebih canggih dr ini, tapi ini modelnya cakep banget.
@@stoner27th setelah coba dua-duanya, Neta V jelek banget dibawanya. Boyo pula dan gak berasa apa-apa stirnya, jauh kalo dibandingin pas bawa eC3. Kalo fitur pasti canggihan Neta V cuma setelah nyetir langsung impresinya jadi jelek ehe.
@@siddharthr4704 ahh I see, welp time to see if its going to be reliable in our climate! Im hoping it would do well
All these issue were sorted out. Just dont believe the comments from the people who never owned the car as they are making assumptions. It is the best EV car in India within this budget.
The passive cooled battery will not only face charging issues due to overheating, it also risks losing battery capacity faster. This is the lesson Nissan learnt with their Leaf.
Citroen needs to reconsider their product strategy for India. Citroen is cutting corners in the name of frugal engineering, and then trying to sell the car at a premium price. The nearly 13Lac on-road price for an eC3 simply does not make sense.
The tiago ev is much cheaper, is better equipped and has an actively liquid cooled battery. If you need more range than a tiago, either stretch your budget up to a Nexon ev max or wait some time for EV competition to heat up in India.
Please do a bit more research. Tiago and Tigor uses Lithium Ion and this car users LFP as like Nexon.
And LFP does not required liquid cooling as they are more tolerant than Lithium Ion. Also Citroen says we can do 100% Fast Charging where as TATA says alternatively.
Also this is the only car that gives better range upto 300 without AC and with AC 250 where as nexon EV Max struggle give 300 as per many owners report.
So once save 7 to 9 lacs by opting this car instead of NEXON.
I forgot to mention that TATA Owners group were flooding with High Critical Alerts from battery, poor range and poor service.
Where as I never see any eC3 complaining about it, other than this video.
@@thenoobgamersid4829 Too many wrong information points.
tiago, tigor, nexon - all of them use LFP, not NMC or NCA.
Yes, LFP is more resilient to thermal issues, yet every major carmaker using LFP uses liquid cooling on the battery. Why? Because it sharply reduces battery degradation and risk of overheating problems, like ones faced by some eC3 owners. Improves charging speed, range,nd battery life. It was extremely shortsighted of Citroen to remove active liquid cooling. Typical European mindset thinking Indians will be happy with cheap products, not realising that a 12-13L car is an aspirational product in India. The Indian consumer demands modern design, features and wants to feel premium relative to the money paid. Citroen just does not understand the Indian car market, or it refuses to listen to their own India team.
No, eC3 does not give you 300km range in ordinary real life usage. It's about 230km with AC, about 5-7% more without AC. As a general thumb rule, avoid believing any numbers higher than 7-7.5km per kwh of usable battery capacity. It needs hypermiling techniques like a consistent 40kmph speed or downhill slopes to exceed that range thumb rule on a consistent basis in EVs available in India.
The eC3 cost nearly 13L on road at launch. The much better 30KWH nexon is about 15.5, and the 33% bigger 40KWH battery ev max is around 17.5. So, 2.5 to 4.5 L more, not 9 Lacs. And eC3 does not have the features or the performance, or seat width of a nexon.
By the way, 9L more on top of an eC3 will be around 22L, that puts you within touching distance of a base model MG ZS EV!
eC3 might have sold well as a cut-price affordable 230-240km range EV that it was designed to be. Citroen got greedy and overpriced it by 1.5Lacs. Stupid mistake, as Indian car buyers don't easily go back to a car model or brand once it becomes a sales dud.
@@dgupta42 Thankd for correcting me by pointing the battery type used in Tiago and Tigor. But the catalog of Tigor and Tiago still says it is Lithium Ion
And regarding the real life usage on eC3, I tested myself and I got 240Km+ with AC and 5 health adults.
So it will be easy to get 270+ with AC as there are many owners claiming the same and also there are UA-cam videos claiming the same.
Why are you simply ignoring the issues of other TATA vehicle, just suggesting TATA vehicle only for their liquid cooling
1) battery issues exist in most vehicle
2) poor range
3) poor service network
Just join some Tiago, Tigor, Nexon owner group, you will know the pain of the owners.
Do note that even though Citroen overprice the car but they have provided the reliable car until somebody proves they made wrong decision by opting aircool. As of now all those are speculations or assumptions as many owners are able to do fast charge without any limits. Do note that many people are making mistake by opening the door and thinking the vehicle does not charge.
Time will prove.
But tiago don't allow DC fast charging repeatedly
@@thenoobgamersid4829 200% true I have e-c3 and one Full charge it gives 290 for me on highways with in city 230 and also I didn't face any problem with battery also DC fast charging
Cooling is very important
Yeah, especially for our indian conditions, it's mandatory.
@@ElectricVehiclesIndia Not so for LFP short blade batteries.
I think the way in which they managed heating is by limiting power input/output to/from battery. Remember 57bhp.
Its a lithium ion phosphate and the thermal efficiency of that is better even though not having a active cooling, Requesting you to take reviews from other eC3 customers as well
Hi jitendra! I don’t know if you are an ec3 owner, a general audience, or a part of citroen team but even we faced a similar problem with my friend’s eC3 here in bangalore when we were going to pondicherry on a trip. When we were dc charging, the car suddenly stopped charging and giving battery heating symbol on the MID. We had to wait for almost an hour for it to cool and to charge another 20%. LFP battery tolerance is about 55 centigrade. Dc fast charging a stationary not cooled battery under indian hot weather will easily go past LFP tolerance. Even Tiago and Nexon use Lithium Phosphate battery but they use liquid cooling. Also, tiago is a cheaper and smaller car. The only other car which doesn’t use liquid cooling in India right now is MG Comet. But that car doesn’t have dc fast charging capability, a normal ac charging will not lead to any heating problem while charging. If citroen was ready to give a 100% fast charging, they should have taken care of cooling.
@electricvehiclesindia Even I and my friend are ready to give a review on this car about this issue and share our experience with this car for our travel to pondicherry.
nice, going to test in delhi soon.
Great 👍
Being youngsters, let's not discourage their efforts. Though the owner has spoken the major negative points about the car and still gives a rating of 7.5 out of 10, which is bizarre. Anyway being new to the industry I do hope these initial teething issues will be sorted out and we will have better ev cars. As on date, Tata EVs are more reliable.
Yes, you're right 👍
TATA vehicles are not more reliable 😂. They provide worse battery and motor unlike citroen who provide BLADE BATTERY TECHNOLOGY ,provided by SVOLT, which is the latest in the global market and even tesla and other big ev manufacturers are starting to move to it with BYD currently the lead maker. The owner may have faced many issues mainly due to the lack of service centres and employees who are expertised in the car however I will guarentee that you will not face any issues as the car ages and sufficent information is tranfered to the company. Citroen also provides prismatic cells allowing the car to fast charge many times unlike the products introduced by TATA AND MAHINDRA. The only manufacturers currently doing at sub 50 lakh prive tag is MG and BYD. Also I wonder why such a channel with the name "ElectricVehiclesIndia" does not take any initiative as to provide the viewer with information about the battery and motor provided by the manufacturer.
Very nice and honest review 👌
Good review... cooling must be water..
I think these kind of features like vehicle not charging while battery overheat its a safety feature which won't let the vehicle battery blast when compared to tata motor.
No matter what Citroen top model is cheaper than tigor ev base model . Tata service is not good and tata dc charging also very slow
Owner is very pragmatic and very nice review.
Thank you sir 🙂. I’m happy that I was able to share my experience with you.
@@kiranreddy7864 your honesty and openness was the heart of this video, thanks again.
@@kiranreddy7864 How is the regenerative braking?
@@anricosangma it doesn’t have a regen level selector. Although, the regen is decent and almost mimics engine breaking that you get from ICE cars
I wonder how brand like cetroen not hav this very basic common sense india has high temperature and dust theres no alternative to liquid cooling. I was sure to buy this car when they were testing it and news came out but once I got to know its air cooled I dropped ky plan. Air cooling is oky for motorcycle engines bcos they won't catch fire in any worst case but this batteries catch fire with slight mismanagement in system.
Common sense and citroen. If they had it they wouldnt have launched ICE C3 itself
Well explained...👍
Thank you 🙂
@@ElectricVehiclesIndia
😍 😊
i love citron thAN tata nexon in terms of comfort and stability
U cant resolve battery cooling problem.
Only way I can think of is employ large external fans to send moving air OR place the car in a AC cooled room when Fast charging. Both are rediculous ideas, unless others have a better idea.
Tata Nexon prime charging speed very slow only 20kw 😢even with liquid cooling . Atleast my friends ec3 charging at 30kw in night and morning when it's cool and decrease to 15kw if hot weather.
Citroen max dc charging rate is 24-25kw sir. But you rarely get that. In my opinion, a consistent charging speed is better than a situation where your car can even completely cut off the charging in the middle of nowhere.
i have proof at 337v Citroen took 90a which comes to 30.33kw . Citroen is city car and 95% of my journey is city and my budget is tight.
@@SripalTAD It is my personal experience. I never got more than 25kw till now. 30kw is a very good speed. I have shared the problems I have faced. The lowest I got is 12-13kw and if the battery is still hot, it will not take the charge anymore. Even I agree that it is a good car for people who have a city commute primarily. But as of now, I cannot recommend to someone who will use the car for frequent long commute and dc fast charging. Let’s hope they solve this issue somehow. I got a very positive response from citroen team after sharing this video with them. They said that they are actively working on this issue and will do hardware/software changes if necessary. I will be the first one to let you know through this channel if that happens.
@@kiranreddy7864 I am confused between Tigor or eC3 which one do you recommend?
Will they soon announce the change in HW/SW, any ETA?
Case 1: If it is HW, they need to add Liquid Cooling, not sure how possible to add it without affecting the cost
Case 2: I think there is a way they can limit the inflow of the current through HW/SW so they can avoid overheating the battery to have consistent charging
@@sdadmin3567 I would recommend to stretch your budget a little more and buy Nexon Prime base model, you will get a far better car… safety wise, size wise, build quality wise, battery cooling wise etc. If that cannot be done for some reason, out of tigor and ec3, with all the knowledge I have till now, I would still go for eC3. Tigor in my personal opinion should have been priced better. Citroen will have to sort this problem somehow and if that is SW, it might decrease the charging speed like you mentioned. Citroen has an mini suv lind of proportions, it has a single battery without compromising on spare wheel, it is better at driving dynamics, handling and it’s suspension is leaps better than it’s competition. Surprisingly, it’s touchscreen and speakers are way good too. Overall, the positives exceed negatives unless you include fast charging. I would compromise on fast charging because I use it very occasionally, provided I get all these features. I believe they would sort the problem, at-least they should solve it so that even though it decreases charge rate, it should not cut off the charging due to heat.
I from kolkata,and I tried fast charging but it never goes more than 78%.
Ok, thanks for sharing
I'm surprised why no mag wheel in top model..
Sir, the core of the car is compromised and we are worried about the mag wheels? 😀
@@nagki haha. I was just curious bro
@@NonPhysicalPhenomena no worries, I was taking a dig at Citroën 😛
@@nagki 🤣🤣 Good one bro
Very honest review
Beware, I'm not happy with ec3. Driven 100km and it starts giving dashboard errors, not moving then. Totally dissatisfied
Ok, Thanks for sharing.
This is will not support fast charging.
Cost cutting from company
Its main problem in battery heating issue
But he has covered 6000 km in 2 months.
I got ec3 only yesterday, when i received it was 50 percent and it was showing 78 kms, i drove around 55 kms and the remaining battery was only 11 percent, pls tell me whats happening with this
So 100 percent only cover 156 km ?
Well now i am getting 240 kms
@@sujeetkumarkc2656 1 % battery approx gives 2 to 2.25 km.. depends upon driving style. do not continuously raise.. but as you stated now that you are getting 240 kms.. then it is correct.
The predicted range is based on how to drive previously.
Company like Citroen claiming to have done enough real world testing and then giving enough BS to public about why they didn't employ active cooling is the price one has to pay here. It is very clear that in India ambient temperature can go till 45-50 deg and that is nearing the LFP tolerance limits, combine that with DCFC, you have a furnace to deal with. Who in the right mind will ignore this fact? That entire test team of eC3 should be fired this very instant 😀
This car in petrol version has got 0 stars safety rating in latin NCAP
Around 17 mins the owner talked about negatives. For half min, he talked about the positives. This gives the clear idea about the car.
Thanks for sharing the review 👍
Hi Praful! This is Kiran, the owner of the car in this video. There are a lot of videos and reviews already stating both positives and negatives of the car. The main purpose of this video is to share a particular problem related to battery heating while dc fast charging in hot weather. Overall, the car is good mechanically. They have done the basics right and it also has some good features like a infotainment system and best in class suspension. I hope that the citroen team will try and resolve this issue if they can. For a normal city ev and occasional long trips, it is still a good buy as of right now. My rating as I said in the video will be 7.5
Hi Kiran, very honest review. I owned ec3 last week. Started by 8.30 am from Chennai and reach by 6 at Madurai. Me too faced battery heating issue. But went off in few mins after I turn off the car for 20 mins. And do you use my Citreon connect app ? Does it working ? I’m not able to connec it. Even dealer is not helping regarding the issue. Pls let me know how to connect. Thanks
@@nirmalanderson Hi! The myCitroenconnect app will be activated by the dealer. They asked me a passport size photo and aadhar details for activation. After activation from their side, we should add car using VIN number.
@@nirmalanderson have you considered TATA Tigor before buying this? I am planning to buy one so confused about which one I should go with TATA Tigor or Tiago or EC3
I am also from Tirunelveli and used to travel from Chennai to Tirunelveli occasionally. I used to take 7 to 8 hours to reach my Hyundai Venue. Seeing the time you took to reach Madurai, I think, it will take me a whole day to get Chennai to Tirunelveli in EC3.
But I do see people doing 230KM+ in EC3
Final verdict : Just avoid citroen. Dont waste money. Tata is much better in terms of battery, parts, charging etc. also when you go for spare parts you will suffer with Citroen
My rating is 6
When did you bought this 😂😂😂
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