I have learned to take Jack’s advice with a pinch of salt. Don’t go Chademo… From my less than scientific observations there are more chademo than Fast 22kW AC stations. I don’t see me abandoning my old girl for this younger model. Zoe’s Eco mode probably would have got me from Porthmadog to my home in Cambridgeshire non stop. Except I knew I would blow it on the A14. She is guesstimating 200miles with my driving. As for storage. Suitcase, holdall and electric wheelchair with plenty of space up to the parcel shelf. Me and my girl will be together for a good while to come.
@@chriswatt2702 About Chademo - was he talking about it in relation to 22kW AC or in relation to CCS? Because CCS is definitely the one to go with in Europe
@@bluemountain4181 it was a quote from another Jack video. Advice that I followed but also did not get CCS. Should have been mentioned as, guess what, there are more CCS and Chademo combined chargers than three phase type 2.
@@jamesvandamme7786I believe it's the world that isn't waiting for the US mate. The top three selling cars in the US are crazy old fashioned pick-ups that are unsellable outside the US..... If the protectionist import tax happens your car industry will stay behind until it's dead. Not facing the competition is suicide 😢
Woah woah woah hold up. Feel like we skipped over the battery chemistry a bit fast there. Having it be LFP is a HUGE deal for people who want longevity and minimal degredation. For a sub 50kwh battery, the extra weight is worth it to go LFP. Can we confirm both variants the 40+ and 29kwh version are both LFP? Love this car. Great video Jack and the team.
I agree, battery chemistry should always be mentioned, I would never even consider a lithium-ion car, but LFP and Sodium would go on my list immediately.
The lifetime of LFP v NCM isn’t really an issue for car drivers……….plenty of non-LFP Teslas with 250k plus miles on the clock with under 20% depredation. Most 100k mile ones are around 5%. LFP can also experience rapid charging being throttled, susceptible to cell temp more. Be a shame if not actively thermally managed, that’s more an issue that battery chemistry.
Speaking of cheap, electric cars, the Mitsubishi i-MiEV had a bit of the same as this Citroen. It was cheaply made but they kept an odd array of creature comforts. The base model came with two speakers, but had heated seats. It had an interior from Tupperware, but had speed-sensitive wipers. It had the barest of instruments, but had a heated steering wheel. It also had an overboosted steering wheel like this Citroen. There is something charming about a simplistic car.
I had two 2CVs in my earlier years and they were great, simple, practicle and cheap. I am glad to see Citroën haven't lost thier touch in that respect. 😊
It'll be my 1st electric car when my current ICE kicks the bucket! But I'll have the ~200 mile WLTP version, because I mostly need it for day trips :D I was thinking the Dacia Spring in the past, but the range just isn't enough for me. This one will do VERY nicely!
@@EcceJackI did 50k miles in a 38kWh Ioniq, before that I’ve commuted in 24kWh Leaf and a minuscule c-zero. Range is overrated. Been driving full EV for 12yrs……just do it
@@ianjames3078 Thanks for the perspective! I drive a Vauxhall Vivaro-e van for work, and on long journeys, and rather enjoy it. I commute on foot, so the car really is for day (and weekend) trips - and I don't have an electric one yet more because of the money than anything else, which is why something like this one looks very appealing
home run! Treffer und versenkt! A comfortable, quiet, spacious, quite affordable electric car with acceptable range and charging speed. I imagine Teslabjorn will do his 1,000 km challenge run in under 11 hours with this one. Me wants it!
I love/appreciate the way you review cars in their orginal context. I know all car journalists think they do it this way but they can't help themselves(of course there are exceptions) but you do it very genuinely..
So much to like about this car from both a consumer perspective and a design one. Decades ago I was part of a team that generated a number of ideas for Jaguar LandRover. It was clear back then that there was an appetite for an eco friendly economical car, that wasn't green wash. Unfortunately legacy brands still had so much buy-in to the systems of manufacturing that they really struggled to understand what was being proposed. Finally we are starting to see ideas from all those decades ago being used. The future really is not to keep burning your resources.
Just looked up the e-C3 here in Denmark, Apparently there's a trim level 'VTR Sport'(+7000dkk/~£800 extra) above the one Jack reviewed here, which does have heated front seats, windscreen & steering wheel + quite a lot of other stuff. For the price i actually think i'd prefer that over the blingy red metal paintjob which costs 9500dkk over standard for comparison.
In Germany, you can also have heated seats and steering wheel for I guess 700 eur. 11kw OBC is 400 eur extra. the bad thing is you cannot get winter packet for basic trim You, so the Max version + winter packet is not that cheap anymore.
@@toyotaprius79 I supose this new type of suspension will be more reliable? I love hydropneumatic too but man the maintanance and complexity... Its oposite of what they wanted to achive, simple car with as little parts possible:) And horizontal springs and swing arms were designed for "non existing roads" type of driving. Bit different priority then today driving.
@@tgregi I had a BX19 about 15 years ago - the only maintenance it ever needed was calling in to my Citroen garage and having the balloons inflated occasionally, which cost $40NZD (about 20 Euro) evry once in a while. I still miss that car - the comfort! the smooth! the quirky!
Thanks for the nice review. Yep, we were waiting for several years for an EV with a, for us, useable range of over 300km and decent charging speed with 100kW, for around €25k. Preferable with an LFP battery pack. This is the one. We bought the MAX for €26k (with €2950 subsidie) black body white roof and the 11kW AC charger. Delivery in October. Super happy. The Renault R5 Etech was the 2nd choice, nice sporty body. But that has NCM battery tech, the 40kWh battery and with 80kW slower charging. AND, in reality that will not be sold this year. You can order, but it will be mid 2025 before it arrives a the dealers. (possibly no subsidy in 2025). So, it is the Citroën ë-C3 MAX that came out on top.
@@Whatshisname346 Thanks for the confirmation. On the dealers website in the Netherlands, it also says heated front seats and heated steering wheel standard in the MAX. Without it, i don't think we would have bought it.
at last, a clip that deserves to be titled "affordable electric car". cheap is 20 grand nowadays :))) it's funny how jack looks like a giant when he stands next to the car, but when he's in the car it feels like he's back to regular person size :)
Reality check. Dacia Sandero 14k £ Thats affordable, and practical. Except for the environment of course... we do have to make this move away from fossil fuels.
@@allanpick4235 Yeah, electric cars still have ways to go. I wonder how much the pertrol version of C3 will be if this one is the cheapest in its electric segment.
@@2727daqwid Me foams at the mouth every time I hear affordable... At least it now applies to sub 30k these days. But let's be honest. When a car can do a week's driving on one charge, which you top up while at the super market, say 30mins, and costs around 15k, that's affordable. Because so many people do not have room to charge cars at their houses or flats. Then I would love to buy one.
@@allanpick4235 No currently sold battery, and the production processes, and recycling, which no one does, is any cleaner than all of the ice cars ever made
I love the idea of using your own phone or tablet for the infotainment screen but they should also just have a typical old school DINN radio and physical aircon buttons.
It does come with aircon buttons actually! Theyre the same as in the version shown here, the row underneath the screen. Fully agreed on radio though, its a nice commuting thing where you dont really need GPS anyway and are too lazy to plonk your phone in. ^^
The entry level car does NOT have an infotainment screen !!! Yay !!! That's a first in the industry !!! Infotainment screens suck purple Twinkies. I've been advocating for a decade using your phone and a USB charger for navigation. Everyone told me, "It can't be done." Well, bug off! Citroen did it !!! Perfection !!!! Thank you.
@@decimal1815Or for the price of any new car android auto should be standard, cheap as chips. FFS a radio was standard in the 70's, anything to stop people using their bloody phones in cars.
The same goes for Peugeot, they had a nice, relatively small and simple, lion outline badge... and now they have a relatively large shield with a lion head! Who gave the green light for that? Please show yourself!!
You can get heated seats + steering wheel + windscreen as an option (1K euro), but no heat pump because that is just more expensive. I would have liked to see battery thermal management(at least heating for the winter since it's an LFP)
And that €1K upgrade got loads of extra goodies too like fog lights, driver assists, -reversing camera- etc, seems like an absolute no-brainer value wise esp. compared to the €1300 ask for the blingy red metal paint job.
@@evfocusro Oops my bad, reversing camera is indeed standard on mid level spec. Although here in DK, the trim level i are named differently(You!/Impress/VTR Sport) I'm assuming they're probably equivalent anyway? 🤔
£23k isn't "genuinely affordable", it is "relatively affordable". Relative to other new cars, it is cheap, yes. But you look at the average person's salary in the UK, it is still a huge purchase to buy one of these new. The average person is going to look at a used car, which opens many avenues - you can have a really, really nice EV for the same money and a car that is only a couple of years old.
I understand your point, but I’m going to take a stand here. There wouldn't be any used cars on the market if there were no new cars to begin with. If everyone only bought used cars, eventually, there wouldn't be any used cars left.
@@LePerlashez you are absolutely right. But on that point, I really don't understand people who buy new cheap cars, such as a Dacia. You can get so much more for your money getting something mildly used.
That's ALWAYS been true, new cars are not cheap, and arguably should not be. some people will always pay for the service, guarantee, choice, smell and peace of mind a new car gives. plus remember a LOT of cars in the uk are now leased.
Average uk wage is 35k pre tax.. you can realistically aim for a car which is half ur salary so a decent car for around £15 to 17k range would be a good target for most UK people. The government should for once reduce taxes on new cars and let people buy new motors for a bit less like the Americans do.
It is notable how quickly Citroen took what they learned from Oli and have incorporated some of that into a production car. Honestly, as an old person I think we are ready for cars with basic, simple features that just let us drive the car, instead of trying to tantalize and distract us with shiny objects and tech baubles. Our phones already do that, there's no need for a car to do the same. I am not technology or feature averse, but driving a car does not need to be an "experience" for most people. Driving is dangerous the the tool we use to drive should never be challenging us for attention.
This is something I agree with and a major decision making point for me. I love Renault’s media control stalk. I love the Aircon is controlled by dials. Starting to feel a bit too warm, three clicks counter clockwise with eyes on the road. Jack’s throw away line about Eco mode. This mode is a remapping of the output of the accelerator pedal to the performance of the drive train. No delays on production line. Negligible weight increase so why is it missing?
I agree, can’t stand the advertising for a new car which starts with showing the tech .. no mention of interior, engines, etc until it’s shown us the massive infotainment 🙄😫
Yeah I have never understood why our cars need to be rolling mansions, there are more amenities and tech and stuff to make us "comfortable" in the average car these days than most people have at home. Massage and AC in the seats... All that weigh a massive amount. Look at BMW's new M5 with mild hybrid tech. Its gained 1000 pounds in a single generation! 1/3 of a small car in one generation, almost 2,5 tonnes. Everyone blame the hybrid parts added... Each seat in a modern car is what? 70 kg? more? 14 electric motors, heating, cooling... ducting...
Fantasic little thing. Finally concentrating on the things that matter. Lack of heat pump and heated seats is a shame though, as it will really effect the efficiency in the winter.
This is the first EV i'm actually tempted to buy. Inexpensive? Check! Not overpowered? Check! Built simple without a bunch of extra crap? Check! And its available without a TV in the dash too?!? Holy moly, this is my next car!
Citroen are going to sell a lot of these, both EV and ICE. Regards the size I'd say 4m is pretty large for a supermini, thats as long as mk3 golf, let alone a mk1 which was barely 3.7m. for me the wheels are too big, I'd put smaller ones on the top spec immediately
They’re going to do an aircross 7 seater version of this. Not sure if it’ll have a bigger battery but I’d pay an extra couple of can’t to be able to haul a bit more stuff in the back.
I like it...a lot! To your list of heat pump, heated seats and steering wheel, I'd add ventilated seats. The heat pump would preserve efficiency when heating/cooling is required for comfort, and heated/ventilated seats would expand the ambient temperature range where heat or A/C would be needed. An electric-only platform would also be nice. However, I totally get why Stellantis are doing the multi-energy platform thing. Another wonderful review, Jack. Keep up the great work.
I think this goes into the realms of faffy expensiveness though. I’d actually cut that list to just heat pump - efficient heating to preserve range. I don’t buy the notion that resistive heating the person and their hands is more efficient than a heat pump would be in heating the whole cabin. And it’s a damn sight less comfortable. The other things are nice to have but to be found on more expensive models. Keep the cheapness!
Wont be that affordable, tyres cost you 800 quid a set, and need a new chassis every time you run off the road because you had to navigate through 5 pages to turn down the air con or open a window... Buttons ain't cool but they do work Elon. Dang he can't hear me up there.
Now if they could redo the e-C4 with a proper EV architecture, lower base, no central tunnel, 45-55kWh, 100kW DC charging, 11kW AC, 88kW motor like my Ioniq Electric (0-60 in 8secs, no one needs more than that), heat pump, they’d have a banger!
@@kosiranze almost. It still has a central tunnel, high base, yet smaller boot and more cramped interior than my Ioniq. The basic motor is 100kW. And despite the 50kWh battery pack, it struggles to really achieve better than 3.8-4 miles/kWh and to reach 200 miles of range. In that respect the Ioniq 38kWh is a much better deal (at least for the UK).
When car journalists try to convince us that 22.000 pounds is affordable, remember - not that long ago, you used to be able to buy mid spec Polos, Fiestas, Puntos, for 10.000. It's not electric that's the problem, it's the whole industry. And China might have something to say about that in the future.
they are on the manufacturers' payroll, of course they are going to say that a £ 24k is cheap. They are definitely not making ends meet with UA-cam ads. Not a single journalist has the balls to call out these outrageous prices.
I like that we're making cars taller, from an ergonomics point of view. I wish we weren't making them taller at the grille, from a not killing pedestrians point of view.
I have a base model C5 Aircross. Didn't quite have the budget to go electric at the time of buying. I love my car. It's no frills, comfortable and very practical. This eC3 looks brilliant.
Up here in Finland you can get one with seated heats and clammy hands but it’ll set you back €29,500 and you have to take the iffy touchscreen. I’ll hang on for the R5 just to see if Renault can pull off something as affordable. Nice little car though!
BYD can provide a sub 10k electric car..but with import tax and supply issues why haven't we seen a tidal wave of these efficient cars.. The sweet spot in The UK would probably be around 15k.. We aren't that far away. It Dosnt need whistles and bells.
Safety, transport costs and build quality. Like it or not the market here expects higher perceived quality, it’s why brands like Proton, Perodua and FSO never caught on. Also by the time you add on shipping and taxes you’re looking at a £15,000 car which probably has terrible high speed stability.
YOU is 23.300€ but it's too stripped down to be used as the only family car. MAX + options(winter package and 11kW AC) tops at 28.400 €. You get a lot of extra stuff for the money so I say it's worth it.
Here in DK the price difference between the bare bones and highest level spec is a mere 20K DKK(€2667). You'd be crazy to skimp on it with the amount of extra goodies you get, not least the heated seats, wheel & front windscreen, but also tons of driver aids, bigger wheels, fog lights and acoustically insulated windscreen(Maybe the one Jack drove in the video had this, since he mentioned how quiet it was?))
This car would be perfect for east, south-east, and south asia❤ if citroen can market this car in those places efrectively, i think we can see another icon from citroen
It's a winner! Sensible small, unobtrusive screen and even an option without one! that's amazing.; rear charging port; physical buttons; space to spread your legs. Is there a button to turn off the Lane Nanny?
Great review Jack, an affordable EV car at last,Citroen has always had a certain way in building cars, Unique you might say, even when they use to be available back in the Day in Canada, it would definitely need a heat pump and heated seats and heated steering wheel here in Canada for our winters, it would cut into range sure , most people would get buy it , I drive 80kms/day for work and the speed on my route averages 95kph with traffic so it is just fine, The E-C3 would work out to $38,500.00 which is good and in the province i live in we get $4000 rebate and the federal rebate $5000 would bring this car under $30,000 WOOHOO, ti would be the biggest winning Canada automotive wise since before Covid and make it affordable for I would say million Canadians, that is a win in every direction, meaning most owners would charge once a week or less, we have a large percentage of drivers that only drive 50-75 miles/weekly or less ,it would be good to see Citroen back in Canada , it is a cool little cart needs a heat pump for Canadian market 👍
Motoring journalists: when mentioning the high boot sill, to lift your luggage over, please also mention how beneficial that sill is for rear end impact protection.
As someone who drives a second-hand Smart Fortwo Electric 2015, this sort of feels like what I have, but better. No customization, no tweaking, no big config, nothing revolutionary. Just a car, that works as a car, gets you to your destination and "just works". Part of me really wants to be able to access the Smart's internals because I'm a power user and I'd like to have more control, but... but it works anyway! Definitely sounds like the E-C3 is going to help with better adoption. Maybe it'll come to Canada at one point, and I'll see some on the street. Thanks for this review!
Like the Elon joke 🙂. Wasn't very keen on the latest Citroen designs but this one is quite refreshing. Edit: could this be the modern version of the 2CV?
From launch I believe UK cars (Plus and Max trim levels) both get the 10" screen whilst top-spec Max cars get heated seats and steering wheel. Pricing-wise it's similar to a petrol Skoda Fabia, Hyundai i20 or hybrid Renault Clio. This isn't being aimed at people who might otherwise get something larger and older.
You had me right up to "no heated seats, heated steering wheel or heat pump"; now non-EV drivers might go "So what?"; but in colder climates, these are important; with them, the car's winter range barely changes, because a heated seat uses perhaps 50 watts of power per seat; and a heat pump will drop the power requirements of a filament heater by 2/3rds (or more) on a long journey, as it scavenges heat from the battery and motor; but an electric filament car heater that heats up the entire interior, with no heat pump, uses 2-3KW; and in a car running on batteries, that can make a HUGE difference. I drive an old, short range EV; the "safe" range is around 95 miles in the summer, and 90 miles in the winter - with 10-15 miles of range in reserve for emergencies; I have done this numerous times to different destinations in weather from -5C to +30C; the only variable factor is how fast I drive - over 60 MPH range drops off (it was never meant as a motorway cruiser); from 4.5 to 3.9 miles per KWh at 70MPH, on a 320 mile run to/from London Heathrow Airport. Urban driving in a fairly flat area, I can get over 5 miles KWh. All this on normal, not EV specific, tyres (Potenza T005)
I like the no-frills idea, but what was all that talk about Price parity with combustion cars (at point of sale), when batteries got down to hundred dollars a kilowatt hour? Doesn’t seem to have happened yet.
What a brilliant looking Citroen. This might be a game changer given the styling and price. Ideal for towns and cities. Can't wait to see it in the metal.
Wow! At 10:08 The entry level car does NOT have an infotainment screen !!! Yay !!! That's a first in the industry !!! Infotainment screens suck purple Twinkies. I've been advocating for a decade using your phone and a USB charger for navigation. Everyone told me, "It can't be done." Well, bug off! Citroen did it !!! Perfection !!!! Thank you.
Thanks for presenting this intersting little new car. Depending on how you define a "family" I still find it quite a stretch to call this car a "family car". When the four of us go camping/tenting (and we don't take more luggage with us than we really need), we fill 800l boot space of a Tesla MS (a Dometic Cooler fills on third already) and also a roof box (filled with tent, sleeping bags etc). The E-C3 might be a nice second car for doing the groceries and bringing the kids to places, but definitely not more. And as such, I might consider this as a family backup car indeed (might be we soon need a second car, as the kids grow older and their range of activity extends).
Fantastic. ALL new vehicles are just insanely priced. Here in the states $70k trucks are common and people are happy to pay more than a mortgage for their car payment. Utterly ridiculous.
Good point! Same here in Denmark; The 51Kwh basic MG4 has pretty much same gear/features as the highest level trim on the eC3 (includes heated seats/wheel etc) and are EXACTLY the same price i.e 200K DKK.
We need cheap EVs like this Citroen but it should be called 2CV not C3, and Renault 5 looks just so much better proper hatch. Great video Jack, keep it up 😊❤❤
which version did you drive in this video? Because the sport version (the most expensive version to be sold here in Denmark) has both heated seats, heated steering wheel and a heated windshield. And its not that much more expensive than the middle version or even the cheapest version.
Will need to check out the interior package: I had a Cactus and the seating position / pedals was like torture after an hour...hopefully this is improved
Nice review @JackScarlett1 . Always say how tall you are so we have some idea of how big the car is when you stand next to it. Also, you didn't say what its max charging power is (only 100 kW), or time to charge 20%-80% (26 minutes for I think only 120 miles) or how long it takes to put 150 miles of range into the car (?? 45 minutes?).
So happy that the French have pulled this off and beat their German competitor by about £10k, no wonder VAG is looking like it's not going to be a future major player in everyday car production for much longer
I like the French designs.. along with the Renault. Masculine. No bar of soap rounding. Good review Jack! Only M. Hulot on his holiday could do a better promo.
Great car... And even the somewhat average range fits in well with what's going on in France charging wise : new charging stations fast and slow are popping up everywhere. Last time I went from Paris to Montpellier I counted 37 fast charging stations, that's one every 13 miles! About half of the motorway service stations have electric charging stations with the other half being equipped in the coming two years. Supermarkets are getting into the business too with Lidl even offering budget fast chargers!
Really looking forward to the new electric Panda (also from Stellantis) - this gives me some hope! I'll need a replacement for my ancient 2008 Panda Cross - ideally in a nice eye catching colour.
The funny part is: ppl who complain about EV range also want a cheap car, like their old Corsa or Fiesta… which they drive around town 99.9% of the time not leaving the county 😂
Brilliant review, hopefully the sign of things to come. I'll be looking for to 11th July when Fiat launch their new Panda EV which is based on the same platform as the e-C3
Starting the video off, with a comment about wanting a simple car, then mentioning lack of heated seats / wheel, a 'miss' ...What??. Still good review overall 👍
Good job Stellantis. Glad to hear that you also pulled your head out of your bum - something we cannot really ever expect from Elon. I'm genuinely excited for this one! I hope it does well. Hugs for Jack, and Take it EV (my podcast btw) everyone !
Just to point out the e-C3 Max adds a reversing camera, automatic air conditioning, a heated steering wheel, heated front seats and dark tinted windows, and also gets improved safety equipment, including speed camera awareness and live traffic information. All for £1,700 extra. LFP without a heat pump means less range in winter, but you can charge to 100%, not 80%, without having to worry about battery degradation.
In Denmark(no subsidy): 180K DKK(lowest trim) / ~€24,1K. Highest trim level is 200K DKK / €26,7K (Above one reviewed in this video as it has heated seats/wheel/windscreen etc)
good price! A question: how long must one keep a car to prevent losing the subsidy? I imagine a Dutch one-year old e-C3 would be very attractive to German buyers (who get no subsidy).
It’s ironic that the point of this video seems to be how God value this is but with the Dacia spring coming out at the same time at another £8000 cheaper makes it look expensive
Also it’s only just cheaper than the MG4 which seems to be about the same size and better specked. Not saying it’s a bad car, I just don’t think it’s gone far enough considering the advertising for it hails it as cheap.
I do agree it's a big step in the right direction but I can't feel as enthusiastic as Jack about all the plastic and no screen whatsover in a £22,000 car. If it was £12K, sure. I need to see a review in the base model where the tester plugs their phone in.
Seems there's an option for heated wheel/seats/windscreen. What I want to know is can it tow? If not then the "practical" in the description has to go...
"If you need eco mode, drive slower." - Jack Scarlett
Get it on a t-shirt
I have learned to take Jack’s advice with a pinch of salt.
Don’t go Chademo… From my less than scientific observations there are more chademo than Fast 22kW AC stations.
I don’t see me abandoning my old girl for this younger model.
Zoe’s Eco mode probably would have got me from Porthmadog to my home in Cambridgeshire non stop. Except I knew I would blow it on the A14. She is guesstimating 200miles with my driving. As for storage. Suitcase, holdall and electric wheelchair with plenty of space up to the parcel shelf.
Me and my girl will be together for a good while to come.
@@chriswatt2702 About Chademo - was he talking about it in relation to 22kW AC or in relation to CCS? Because CCS is definitely the one to go with in Europe
@@bluemountain4181 it was a quote from another Jack video. Advice that I followed but also did not get CCS. Should have been mentioned as, guess what, there are more CCS and Chademo combined chargers than three phase type 2.
@@chriswatt2702 CCS = Combined Charging System, Many CCS equip cars can use Type 2 chargers
Finally the review we were all waiting for. Will this car be ushering a new era of affordable EVs for the masses? I really hope so.
Not the masses in the USA. We wait.
@@jamesvandamme7786I believe it's the world that isn't waiting for the US mate.
The top three selling cars in the US are crazy old fashioned pick-ups that are unsellable outside the US.....
If the protectionist import tax happens your car industry will stay behind until it's dead. Not facing the competition is suicide 😢
@@jamesvandamme7786 Yep, because Elon is now the richest man in the world, he can buy Congress and keep Citroen and Chinese cars out of the U.S.
Woah woah woah hold up. Feel like we skipped over the battery chemistry a bit fast there. Having it be LFP is a HUGE deal for people who want longevity and minimal degredation. For a sub 50kwh battery, the extra weight is worth it to go LFP. Can we confirm both variants the 40+ and 29kwh version are both LFP?
Love this car. Great video Jack and the team.
Good spot - it’s really exciting but I don’t want to overly geek out about it. Yes LFP for both.
Yes, unfortunately it doesn’t seem to have active thermal management - it is “air cooled” which is an annoying shortcoming even if it is LFP.
I agree, battery chemistry should always be mentioned, I would never even consider a lithium-ion car, but LFP and Sodium would go on my list immediately.
The lifetime of LFP v NCM isn’t really an issue for car drivers……….plenty of non-LFP Teslas with 250k plus miles on the clock with under 20% depredation. Most 100k mile ones are around 5%. LFP can also experience rapid charging being throttled, susceptible to cell temp more.
Be a shame if not actively thermally managed, that’s more an issue that battery chemistry.
@@yvan2563there’re all lithium!
Speaking of cheap, electric cars, the Mitsubishi i-MiEV had a bit of the same as this Citroen. It was cheaply made but they kept an odd array of creature comforts. The base model came with two speakers, but had heated seats. It had an interior from Tupperware, but had speed-sensitive wipers. It had the barest of instruments, but had a heated steering wheel. It also had an overboosted steering wheel like this Citroen. There is something charming about a simplistic car.
Mitsubishi should have never discontinued the iMiEV with just the Outlander as its replacement
Love those things. A Swedish chap once told me they’re great for drifting too
It's not odd if you think about it. Heated seats save energy on interior heater and same for the wipers not moving when not needed.
The i-MiEV was also available as Citroën C-Zero.
With 5 miles of range…
I had two 2CVs in my earlier years and they were great, simple, practicle and cheap. I am glad to see Citroën haven't lost thier touch in that respect. 😊
Should win Car of the year! It'll be my 1st electric car when the cheapest version arrives.
We ordered the MAX (still almost €3.000 subsidy for the Dutch in 2024. So it was €26k. 👍
It'll be my 1st electric car when my current ICE kicks the bucket! But I'll have the ~200 mile WLTP version, because I mostly need it for day trips :D
I was thinking the Dacia Spring in the past, but the range just isn't enough for me. This one will do VERY nicely!
@@EcceJackI did 50k miles in a 38kWh Ioniq, before that I’ve commuted in 24kWh Leaf and a minuscule c-zero. Range is overrated. Been driving full EV for 12yrs……just do it
@@ianjames3078 Thanks for the perspective! I drive a Vauxhall Vivaro-e van for work, and on long journeys, and rather enjoy it. I commute on foot, so the car really is for day (and weekend) trips - and I don't have an electric one yet more because of the money than anything else, which is why something like this one looks very appealing
@@EcceJackplenty of excellent used EVs on Autotrader at the moment, within a “decent” price bracket £12k-£18k.
home run! Treffer und versenkt! A comfortable, quiet, spacious, quite affordable electric car with acceptable range and charging speed. I imagine Teslabjorn will do his 1,000 km challenge run in under 11 hours with this one. Me wants it!
I love/appreciate the way you review cars in their orginal context. I know all car journalists think they do it this way but they can't help themselves(of course there are exceptions) but you do it very genuinely..
So much to like about this car from both a consumer perspective and a design one. Decades ago I was part of a team that generated a number of ideas for Jaguar LandRover. It was clear back then that there was an appetite for an eco friendly economical car, that wasn't green wash. Unfortunately legacy brands still had so much buy-in to the systems of manufacturing that they really struggled to understand what was being proposed. Finally we are starting to see ideas from all those decades ago being used. The future really is not to keep burning your resources.
The Dacia spring is also a fascinating little car. And with a charming interior and exterior to go with its £15,000 starting price.
Just looked up the e-C3 here in Denmark, Apparently there's a trim level 'VTR Sport'(+7000dkk/~£800 extra) above the one Jack reviewed here, which does have heated front seats, windscreen & steering wheel + quite a lot of other stuff.
For the price i actually think i'd prefer that over the blingy red metal paintjob which costs 9500dkk over standard for comparison.
In Germany, you can also have heated seats and steering wheel for I guess 700 eur. 11kw OBC is 400 eur extra. the bad thing is you cannot get winter packet for basic trim You, so the Max version + winter packet is not that cheap anymore.
Citroen's suspension is really good tho. This car with that suspension is already makes it a really good buy
But still a far cry from the iconic 2CV's horizontal springs and swing arms, and even further cry away from the famous hydropneumatic suspension.
@@toyotaprius79 I supose this new type of suspension will be more reliable? I love hydropneumatic too but man the maintanance and complexity... Its oposite of what they wanted to achive, simple car with as little parts possible:) And horizontal springs and swing arms were designed for "non existing roads" type of driving. Bit different priority then today driving.
@@tgregi I had a BX19 about 15 years ago - the only maintenance it ever needed was calling in to my Citroen garage and having the balloons inflated occasionally, which cost $40NZD (about 20 Euro) evry once in a while. I still miss that car - the comfort! the smooth! the quirky!
Thanks for the nice review.
Yep, we were waiting for several years for an EV with a, for us, useable range of over 300km and decent charging speed with 100kW, for around €25k.
Preferable with an LFP battery pack. This is the one.
We bought the MAX for €26k (with €2950 subsidie) black body white roof and the 11kW AC charger. Delivery in October. Super happy.
The Renault R5 Etech was the 2nd choice, nice sporty body.
But that has NCM battery tech, the 40kWh battery and with 80kW slower charging.
AND, in reality that will not be sold this year. You can order, but it will be mid 2025 before it arrives a the dealers. (possibly no subsidy in 2025).
So, it is the Citroën ë-C3 MAX that came out on top.
Thanks for the advice. A max here in Finland is €29500 but you do get heated seats, steering wheel and front screen in that.
@@Whatshisname346 Thanks for the confirmation. On the dealers website in the Netherlands, it also says heated front seats and heated steering wheel standard in the MAX.
Without it, i don't think we would have bought it.
Hi mate!!
at last, a clip that deserves to be titled "affordable electric car". cheap is 20 grand nowadays :)))
it's funny how jack looks like a giant when he stands next to the car, but when he's in the car it feels like he's back to regular person size :)
Reality check. Dacia Sandero 14k £
Thats affordable, and practical. Except for the environment of course... we do have to make this move away from fossil fuels.
@@allanpick4235 Yeah, electric cars still have ways to go. I wonder how much the pertrol version of C3 will be if this one is the cheapest in its electric segment.
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Me foams at the mouth every time I hear affordable... At least it now applies to sub 30k these days.
But let's be honest. When a car can do a week's driving on one charge, which you top up while at the super market, say 30mins, and costs around 15k, that's affordable. Because so many people do not have room to charge cars at their houses or flats. Then I would love to buy one.
@@2727daqwid Petrol anything is immaterial unless you don't drive it.
@@allanpick4235 No currently sold battery, and the production processes, and recycling, which no one does, is any cleaner than all of the ice cars ever made
I love the idea of using your own phone or tablet for the infotainment screen but they should also just have a typical old school DINN radio and physical aircon buttons.
It does come with aircon buttons actually! Theyre the same as in the version shown here, the row underneath the screen. Fully agreed on radio though, its a nice commuting thing where you dont really need GPS anyway and are too lazy to plonk your phone in. ^^
For the price difference, you could buy a cheap reconditioned Android mobile to use only for satnav and 'radio' functions.
The entry level car does NOT have an infotainment screen !!! Yay !!! That's a first in the industry !!! Infotainment screens suck purple Twinkies. I've been advocating for a decade using your phone and a USB charger for navigation. Everyone told me, "It can't be done." Well, bug off! Citroen did it !!! Perfection !!!! Thank you.
@@decimal1815Or for the price of any new car android auto should be standard, cheap as chips. FFS a radio was standard in the 70's, anything to stop people using their bloody phones in cars.
@@stepheng8779 that's true.
The only thing i hate about it is the new badge. They had a great minimalistic badge...and now they have an egg 😮💨
all the french brand rebranded in 5 years for those fat + flat graphic things. Not a fan too
No problem, it is also coming with a Fiat badge (July 11th Panda release), potentially also Peugeot (1008).
looks so terrible. Like american army corporal, but a crappy chinese brand instead.
The same goes for Peugeot, they had a nice, relatively small and simple, lion outline badge... and now they have a relatively large shield with a lion head!
Who gave the green light for that? Please show yourself!!
The chevrons do not need another shape. I had to pause it, just to imagine blanking the pebble shape out. Much better.
You can get heated seats + steering wheel + windscreen as an option (1K euro), but no heat pump because that is just more expensive. I would have liked to see battery thermal management(at least heating for the winter since it's an LFP)
And that €1K upgrade got loads of extra goodies too like fog lights, driver assists, -reversing camera- etc, seems like an absolute no-brainer value wise esp. compared to the €1300 ask for the blingy red metal paint job.
@@lagmonster7789 Reversing camera is standard on MAX.
@@evfocusro Oops my bad, reversing camera is indeed standard on mid level spec.
Although here in DK, the trim level i are named differently(You!/Impress/VTR Sport) I'm assuming they're probably equivalent anyway? 🤔
@@lagmonster7789 The electric C3 has only base (YOU) and top (MAX) versions.
£23k isn't "genuinely affordable", it is "relatively affordable". Relative to other new cars, it is cheap, yes. But you look at the average person's salary in the UK, it is still a huge purchase to buy one of these new. The average person is going to look at a used car, which opens many avenues - you can have a really, really nice EV for the same money and a car that is only a couple of years old.
I understand your point, but I’m going to take a stand here. There wouldn't be any used cars on the market if there were no new cars to begin with. If everyone only bought used cars, eventually, there wouldn't be any used cars left.
@@LePerlashez you are absolutely right. But on that point, I really don't understand people who buy new cheap cars, such as a Dacia. You can get so much more for your money getting something mildly used.
That's ALWAYS been true, new cars are not cheap, and arguably should not be. some people will always pay for the service, guarantee, choice, smell and peace of mind a new car gives. plus remember a LOT of cars in the uk are now leased.
The petrol version is only 4K less. So it’s actually as affordable as other cars in its class.
Average uk wage is 35k pre tax.. you can realistically aim for a car which is half ur salary so a decent car for around £15 to 17k range would be a good target for most UK people. The government should for once reduce taxes on new cars and let people buy new motors for a bit less like the Americans do.
It is notable how quickly Citroen took what they learned from Oli and have incorporated some of that into a production car. Honestly, as an old person I think we are ready for cars with basic, simple features that just let us drive the car, instead of trying to tantalize and distract us with shiny objects and tech baubles. Our phones already do that, there's no need for a car to do the same. I am not technology or feature averse, but driving a car does not need to be an "experience" for most people. Driving is dangerous the the tool we use to drive should never be challenging us for attention.
This is something I agree with and a major decision making point for me.
I love Renault’s media control stalk. I love the Aircon is controlled by dials. Starting to feel a bit too warm, three clicks counter clockwise with eyes on the road.
Jack’s throw away line about Eco mode. This mode is a remapping of the output of the accelerator pedal to the performance of the drive train. No delays on production line. Negligible weight increase so why is it missing?
I agree, can’t stand the advertising for a new car which starts with showing the tech .. no mention of interior, engines, etc until it’s shown us the massive infotainment 🙄😫
Yeah I have never understood why our cars need to be rolling mansions, there are more amenities and tech and stuff to make us "comfortable" in the average car these days than most people have at home. Massage and AC in the seats... All that weigh a massive amount.
Look at BMW's new M5 with mild hybrid tech. Its gained 1000 pounds in a single generation! 1/3 of a small car in one generation, almost 2,5 tonnes.
Everyone blame the hybrid parts added...
Each seat in a modern car is what? 70 kg? more? 14 electric motors, heating, cooling... ducting...
Great Review - they are going to sell shed loads of those...
Fantasic little thing. Finally concentrating on the things that matter. Lack of heat pump and heated seats is a shame though, as it will really effect the efficiency in the winter.
The target market wouldn't care.
@@RichardFraser-y9t Actually we would, but it's NOT a deal-breaker.
Let's hope this come to North America in SOME form. And at a SANE price.
Most people will be doing longer trips in summer, so it won't make a difference
There's heated seats on higher trim models though.
@@lagmonster7789 They made it sound as though they weren’t available.
This is the first EV i'm actually tempted to buy.
Inexpensive? Check!
Not overpowered? Check!
Built simple without a bunch of extra crap? Check!
And its available without a TV in the dash too?!? Holy moly, this is my next car!
Should cost less to insure too, with 111 BHP rather than 47 million like all the rest.
E-C3, Darcia Spring and others. Looking good for me getting an electric car soon.
This guy is the funniest car reviewer, keep it up!
Citroen are going to sell a lot of these, both EV and ICE. Regards the size I'd say 4m is pretty large for a supermini, thats as long as mk3 golf, let alone a mk1 which was barely 3.7m. for me the wheels are too big, I'd put smaller ones on the top spec immediately
Exactly.
And yet more compact than a modern Polo 🤦💀
In the Indian market just announced a 7 seater Spacetourer
They’re going to do an aircross 7 seater version of this. Not sure if it’ll have a bigger battery but I’d pay an extra couple of can’t to be able to haul a bit more stuff in the back.
4m has been pretty standard for superminis for some time now - since the mid-00s Clios and Puntos.
I like it...a lot! To your list of heat pump, heated seats and steering wheel, I'd add ventilated seats. The heat pump would preserve efficiency when heating/cooling is required for comfort, and heated/ventilated seats would expand the ambient temperature range where heat or A/C would be needed. An electric-only platform would also be nice. However, I totally get why Stellantis are doing the multi-energy platform thing. Another wonderful review, Jack. Keep up the great work.
I think this goes into the realms of faffy expensiveness though. I’d actually cut that list to just heat pump - efficient heating to preserve range. I don’t buy the notion that resistive heating the person and their hands is more efficient than a heat pump would be in heating the whole cabin. And it’s a damn sight less comfortable.
The other things are nice to have but to be found on more expensive models. Keep the cheapness!
Dont hold your breath about Elons head,, 😅
Leve the breath holding to Elon.
Don't hold your breath to anything involving Elon.
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Wont be that affordable, tyres cost you 800 quid a set, and need a new chassis every time you run off the road because you had to navigate through 5 pages to turn down the air con or open a window... Buttons ain't cool but they do work Elon. Dang he can't hear me up there.
Now if they could redo the e-C4 with a proper EV architecture, lower base, no central tunnel, 45-55kWh, 100kW DC charging, 11kW AC, 88kW motor like my Ioniq Electric (0-60 in 8secs, no one needs more than that), heat pump, they’d have a banger!
Aren't you just describing the current e-C4?
@@kosiranze almost. It still has a central tunnel, high base, yet smaller boot and more cramped interior than my Ioniq. The basic motor is 100kW. And despite the 50kWh battery pack, it struggles to really achieve better than 3.8-4 miles/kWh and to reach 200 miles of range. In that respect the Ioniq 38kWh is a much better deal (at least for the UK).
@@Nikoo033 yeah, the packaging of the car is not all that great, I agree.
When car journalists try to convince us that 22.000 pounds is affordable, remember - not that long ago, you used to be able to buy mid spec Polos, Fiestas, Puntos, for 10.000. It's not electric that's the problem, it's the whole industry. And China might have something to say about that in the future.
Not that long ago is in fact quite a while ago lol. Inflation is a thing.
they are on the manufacturers' payroll, of course they are going to say that a £ 24k is cheap. They are definitely not making ends meet with UA-cam ads. Not a single journalist has the balls to call out these outrageous prices.
Headlights that are "three sides of a square"? I thnik the phrase you're looking for is C-shape .... you know, C as in Citroen 😆
DAMMIT
Could Imogen walk around it please cos it looks like a clown car next to Jack
Ffs
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I like that we're making cars taller, from an ergonomics point of view. I wish we weren't making them taller at the grille, from a not killing pedestrians point of view.
I have a base model C5 Aircross. Didn't quite have the budget to go electric at the time of buying. I love my car. It's no frills, comfortable and very practical. This eC3 looks brilliant.
Up here in Finland you can get one with seated heats and clammy hands but it’ll set you back €29,500 and you have to take the iffy touchscreen. I’ll hang on for the R5 just to see if Renault can pull off something as affordable. Nice little car though!
BYD can provide a sub 10k electric car..but with import tax and supply issues why haven't we seen a tidal wave of these efficient cars.. The sweet spot in The UK would probably be around 15k.. We aren't that far away. It Dosnt need whistles and bells.
There's also safety legislation/requirements which drive up the price in Europe, as is the case with the Dacia Spring(Dongfeng K-ZE).
Safety, transport costs and build quality. Like it or not the market here expects higher perceived quality, it’s why brands like Proton, Perodua and FSO never caught on. Also by the time you add on shipping and taxes you’re looking at a £15,000 car which probably has terrible high speed stability.
Proton,and Perdua, far more modern,and better then FSO
You would never get it from that price outside of China is always double that, also 10k back in the day it’s 19k in today money 😂
YOU is 23.300€ but it's too stripped down to be used as the only family car. MAX + options(winter package and 11kW AC) tops at 28.400 €. You get a lot of extra stuff for the money so I say it's worth it.
Here in DK the price difference between the bare bones and highest level spec is a mere 20K DKK(€2667). You'd be crazy to skimp on it with the amount of extra goodies you get, not least the heated seats, wheel & front windscreen, but also tons of driver aids, bigger wheels, fog lights and acoustically insulated windscreen(Maybe the one Jack drove in the video had this, since he mentioned how quiet it was?))
I really hope they will have a heat pump for the Nordics and other really cold places since the battery is sort of small (which is good)
Heated steering wheel and seat is definitely not required
This car would be perfect for east, south-east, and south asia❤ if citroen can market this car in those places efrectively, i think we can see another icon from citroen
jack you are on the way to become a standup comedian. love your pointing to the french - made me smile
Is it wrong that I'd love to see a soft top convertible version?
If the Fiat 500e can...
Hell yeah
It's a winner! Sensible small, unobtrusive screen and even an option without one! that's amazing.; rear charging port; physical buttons; space to spread your legs. Is there a button to turn off the Lane Nanny?
Great review Jack, an affordable EV car at last,Citroen has always had a certain way in building cars, Unique you might say, even when they use to be available back in the Day in Canada, it would definitely need a heat pump and heated seats and heated steering wheel here in Canada for our winters, it would cut into range sure , most people would get buy it , I drive 80kms/day for work and the speed on my route averages 95kph with traffic so it is just fine, The E-C3 would work out to $38,500.00 which is good and in the province i live in we get $4000 rebate and the federal rebate $5000 would bring this car under $30,000 WOOHOO, ti would be the biggest winning Canada automotive wise since before Covid and make it affordable for I would say million Canadians, that is a win in every direction, meaning most owners would charge once a week or less, we have a large percentage of drivers that only drive 50-75 miles/weekly or less ,it would be good to see Citroen back in Canada , it is a cool little cart needs a heat pump for Canadian market 👍
Exactly the vehicle I am looking at buying when I move to France. Found it many months ago now and it looked perfect for us.
Price= battery and range 4:56 (on this channel). You're welcome.
Good one Jack!
Looking forward to seeing these around loads. Great fun and informative review Jack!
It looks like my glb , i really like it, i would buy one
Motoring journalists: when mentioning the high boot sill, to lift your luggage over, please also mention how beneficial that sill is for rear end impact protection.
As someone who drives a second-hand Smart Fortwo Electric 2015, this sort of feels like what I have, but better. No customization, no tweaking, no big config, nothing revolutionary. Just a car, that works as a car, gets you to your destination and "just works". Part of me really wants to be able to access the Smart's internals because I'm a power user and I'd like to have more control, but... but it works anyway! Definitely sounds like the E-C3 is going to help with better adoption. Maybe it'll come to Canada at one point, and I'll see some on the street. Thanks for this review!
I am so glad that Europe is starting summer. The sunlight itself is exciting.
It’s always fun to listen to Jack and to see his demonstrations. 😀 - I can’t help but wonder if there’s a car made that he does not like?
Like the Elon joke 🙂. Wasn't very keen on the latest Citroen designs but this one is quite refreshing. Edit: could this be the modern version of the 2CV?
From launch I believe UK cars (Plus and Max trim levels) both get the 10" screen whilst top-spec Max cars get heated seats and steering wheel. Pricing-wise it's similar to a petrol Skoda Fabia, Hyundai i20 or hybrid Renault Clio. This isn't being aimed at people who might otherwise get something larger and older.
There are a quite a few pre reg E208's from Arnold Clark for less than 20k and in allure trim, which would you prefer?
When I had Citroen Xsara, £10 got me to Skegness from Derby, 100 miles away. Citroen like fuel economy
You had me right up to "no heated seats, heated steering wheel or heat pump"; now non-EV drivers might go "So what?"; but in colder climates, these are important; with them, the car's winter range barely changes, because a heated seat uses perhaps 50 watts of power per seat; and a heat pump will drop the power requirements of a filament heater by 2/3rds (or more) on a long journey, as it scavenges heat from the battery and motor; but an electric filament car heater that heats up the entire interior, with no heat pump, uses 2-3KW; and in a car running on batteries, that can make a HUGE difference.
I drive an old, short range EV; the "safe" range is around 95 miles in the summer, and 90 miles in the winter - with 10-15 miles of range in reserve for emergencies; I have done this numerous times to different destinations in weather from -5C to +30C; the only variable factor is how fast I drive - over 60 MPH range drops off (it was never meant as a motorway cruiser); from 4.5 to 3.9 miles per KWh at 70MPH, on a 320 mile run to/from London Heathrow Airport.
Urban driving in a fairly flat area, I can get over 5 miles KWh.
All this on normal, not EV specific, tyres (Potenza T005)
I like the no-frills idea, but what was all that talk about Price parity with combustion cars (at point of sale), when batteries got down to hundred dollars a kilowatt hour? Doesn’t seem to have happened yet.
What a brilliant looking Citroen. This might be a game changer given the styling and price. Ideal for towns and cities. Can't wait to see it in the metal.
Wow! At 10:08 The entry level car does NOT have an infotainment screen !!! Yay !!! That's a first in the industry !!! Infotainment screens suck purple Twinkies. I've been advocating for a decade using your phone and a USB charger for navigation. Everyone told me, "It can't be done." Well, bug off! Citroen did it !!! Perfection !!!! Thank you.
Thanks for presenting this intersting little new car. Depending on how you define a "family" I still find it quite a stretch to call this car a "family car". When the four of us go camping/tenting (and we don't take more luggage with us than we really need), we fill 800l boot space of a Tesla MS (a Dometic Cooler fills on third already) and also a roof box (filled with tent, sleeping bags etc).
The E-C3 might be a nice second car for doing the groceries and bringing the kids to places, but definitely not more.
And as such, I might consider this as a family backup car indeed (might be we soon need a second car, as the kids grow older and their range of activity extends).
perfect cheap grocery and couple car
small family car too..
Fantastic. ALL new vehicles are just insanely priced. Here in the states $70k trucks are common and people are happy to pay more than a mortgage for their car payment. Utterly ridiculous.
Thanks. Fantastic that theres finally beginning to come out some smaller more sustainable electric cars
You can get the mg4 50kwh version for the same money as this though in Ireland
Good point!
Same here in Denmark; The 51Kwh basic MG4 has pretty much same gear/features as the highest level trim on the eC3 (includes heated seats/wheel etc) and are EXACTLY the same price i.e 200K DKK.
Though FWIW it should be mentioned the base 51kWh MG4 can only do an anemic 3,6kW AC charging, getting 11kW like the eC3 is a 25% price hike.
This really depend on market. In our market in Czechia the base price of the MG is 19% higher than this.
I love your perspective on this car. Nice looking, basic transportation, with comfort, great value.
We need cheap EVs like this Citroen but it should be called 2CV not C3, and Renault 5 looks just so much better proper hatch.
Great video Jack, keep it up 😊❤❤
Just for your info this max trim level does have heated steering wheel and heated seats.
which version did you drive in this video? Because the sport version (the most expensive version to be sold here in Denmark) has both heated seats, heated steering wheel and a heated windshield. And its not that much more expensive than the middle version or even the cheapest version.
I think Jack would be so chuffed reviewing a bicycle. It's so simple, no roof, don't need a door to get in, 2 wheels instead of four....on and on
Will need to check out the interior package: I had a Cactus and the seating position / pedals was like torture after an hour...hopefully this is improved
Bravo Citroen!!!
Love it! Simple, small and lightweight is fantastique!
I love let this channel lets their presenters speak their minds.
Also, the music slapped.
Nice review @JackScarlett1 . Always say how tall you are so we have some idea of how big the car is when you stand next to it. Also, you didn't say what its max charging power is (only 100 kW), or time to charge 20%-80% (26 minutes for I think only 120 miles) or how long it takes to put 150 miles of range into the car (?? 45 minutes?).
Nice lightning strike around the 5min mark
So happy that the French have pulled this off and beat their German competitor by about £10k, no wonder VAG is looking like it's not going to be a future major player in everyday car production for much longer
I like the French designs.. along with the Renault. Masculine. No bar of soap rounding. Good review Jack! Only M. Hulot on his holiday could do a better promo.
The vw eUp was always here and cheap. But unless it looks like an SUV people act like it doesnt exist
Great car... And even the somewhat average range fits in well with what's going on in France charging wise : new charging stations fast and slow are popping up everywhere. Last time I went from Paris to Montpellier I counted 37 fast charging stations, that's one every 13 miles! About half of the motorway service stations have electric charging stations with the other half being equipped in the coming two years. Supermarkets are getting into the business too with Lidl even offering budget fast chargers!
Really looking forward to the new electric Panda (also from Stellantis) - this gives me some hope! I'll need a replacement for my ancient 2008 Panda Cross - ideally in a nice eye catching colour.
It'll likely land at about $45k when it comes to Australia, IF, it comes to Australia.
The funny part is: ppl who complain about EV range also want a cheap car, like their old Corsa or Fiesta… which they drive around town 99.9% of the time not leaving the county 😂
Very nice car, well presented
What would one pick if the choices were a brand new eC3 or a used 2019 i-Pace?
Cute, comfortable and enticing....
Just like the presenter!!
Brilliant review, hopefully the sign of things to come. I'll be looking for to 11th July when Fiat launch their new Panda EV which is based on the same platform as the e-C3
Starting the video off, with a comment about wanting a simple car, then mentioning lack of heated seats / wheel, a 'miss' ...What??. Still good review overall 👍
Was the Renault Zoë not a small, cheap and French electric car? 🤔
slow charging, rather tight inside, not so affordable. A generation or two earlier, development-wise.
@@martian9999but it had a universal 22kW 3 phase charger which is so terribly underrated
Sorry I'm late, I was watching a rocket sort of land in the sea, pretty epic. Now back to cars.
Good job Stellantis. Glad to hear that you also pulled your head out of your bum - something we cannot really ever expect from Elon. I'm genuinely excited for this one! I hope it does well.
Hugs for Jack, and Take it EV (my podcast btw) everyone !
Bezels, haircuts, who doesn't love the '90s?
That’s a 10/10 comment
Just to point out the e-C3 Max adds a reversing camera, automatic air conditioning, a heated steering wheel, heated front seats and dark tinted windows, and also gets improved safety equipment, including speed camera awareness and live traffic information. All for £1,700 extra.
LFP without a heat pump means less range in winter, but you can charge to 100%, not 80%, without having to worry about battery degradation.
with subsidy in NL: € 21340
In Denmark(no subsidy): 180K DKK(lowest trim) / ~€24,1K.
Highest trim level is 200K DKK / €26,7K (Above one reviewed in this video as it has heated seats/wheel/windscreen etc)
good price!
A question: how long must one keep a car to prevent losing the subsidy?
I imagine a Dutch one-year old e-C3 would be very attractive to German buyers (who get no subsidy).
2 years in Spain, if I remember correctly 😉
Elon might acctually be able to fit both his head and a model 2 back there, his boot is as big as his ego :D
It’s ironic that the point of this video seems to be how God value this is but with the Dacia spring coming out at the same time at another £8000 cheaper makes it look expensive
Also it’s only just cheaper than the MG4 which seems to be about the same size and better specked. Not saying it’s a bad car, I just don’t think it’s gone far enough considering the advertising for it hails it as cheap.
Jack, you have such a humor... awesome!😀👍👍👍
I do agree it's a big step in the right direction but I can't feel as enthusiastic as Jack about all the plastic and no screen whatsover in a £22,000 car. If it was £12K, sure. I need to see a review in the base model where the tester plugs their phone in.
Seems there's an option for heated wheel/seats/windscreen. What I want to know is can it tow? If not then the "practical" in the description has to go...
Zut alors, Jacques!? Did you not see it - That headlight shape is a big letter e, for ec3…
- Jack : "this is a cheap simple car" x10 times 😄
Can you tell I’m excited about the cheapness/simplicity
@@JackScarlett1 i was impressed too
Well done Citroën for trying to give lots of prospective new EV drivers a " cheap" route to a city ev that can also cover distance with no problems.