It´s not about some "Olympic Ruins", it´s about the whole former International Airport area. And it´s not just about a Casino. It´s a mega project including parks, public spaces, skyscrapers, residential & office buildings, malls and the coastal front. Reply
@@NIKOS_GEROSIDERIS you pay what you get. If you choose Myconos for vacations, it’s not a secret that is a jet set destination , worldwide. Same as similar destinations elsewhere. What is the issue? If you want these spots to visit, they are not free.
I dont really agree every city must have variety. Paris, Istanbul have tall contemporary buildings although you can still experience the character of the cities .
Yes, correct; ...and to add up it will be built out of cheap labor from poor countries by giving them working visa and salaries of €600 per month. Not any Greek worker wants to work for so low in a country where the basic needs, rents, food prices are artificially inflated to benefit the rich and are leaving the country for good.
Define "social housing." Does it have the same meaning in Greece as elsewhere? And would the housing have a more positive impact on the people that live there and the environment around them than would a project as described in this video?
@@Hyakman5408 Why wouldn't it or couldn't it have a positive impact? Social housing isn't slums, as long the developers and architects don't make it slums. Financially disadvantaged people want to live comfortably too, they deserve lush parks and safe playgrounds and clean air as much as anyone else.
@2nd3rd1st That is why I'm asking for a definition of the term "social housing." It can mean different things depending on who is providing the definition. Where I live, it means housing subsidized with taxpayer dollars for people who rely on welfare for part or most of their general living expenses. A few of these places that have been around a while have deteriorated noticeably in many different ways (unkempt, higher crime, drug problems, etc), which is attributable to the attitudes of that city's government and populace. But I can think of 2 near my home (in a different city, not far away) that have gone up in the last 5 - 6 years that seem to be doing okay, and have thus far not allowed their neighborhood to follow a trend toward social and economic decay.
I think you should have focused more that this area was the old airport of Athens and not so much about Olympics as there played only a few games also Olympics are not to be blamed for the debt crisis,other factors result to this crisis (i don't say that Olympics hadnt contributed to this crisis but its effect was little)
Πες τα ρε χρυσοστομε!!! Πραγματικά έπαθα πλάκα με το πόσο κακη ανάλυση έκανε το tomorrow's build!!! Για 4 λεπτά μίλαγε για το πόσο μας κατέστρεψαν οι ολυμπιακοί αγώνες. Ενώ στο ίδιο βίντεο λέει ότι της Αθήνας ήταν από τους πιο φθηνούς 🤣🤣🤣 φίλε μην το ψάχνεις και μην τους ακούς. Οι ολυμπιακοί αγώνες ήταν ότι καλύτερο έχουμε κάνει!! Σίγουρα έγινε miss management και πολλές λάθος κινήσεις αλλά αυτό που έφαγε αυτά τα κτίρια και τις εγκαταστάσεις ήταν η κρίση!! Εξαιτίας αυτής δεν προχώρησε κανένα σχέδιο αξιοποίησης αυτών των κτιρίων. Πόσο ειρωνικό είναι ότι στο εξωτερικό χρησιμοποιείται σαν δικαιολογία της κρίσης οι ολυμπιακοί αγώνες ενώ στην ουσία είναι το αντίθετο
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
It's actually transforming the old airport to a metropolitan park which includes a casino and other things, like a shopping district, a residential skyscraper etc.
A casino is the perfect explanation of Greece's economic mindset. It wants easy or free money, including taking debt. Greeks want holidays 12 months a year, they want luxury, big weddings, good food, but they don't want to work for it thinking the world has some kind of debt to them to feed them. A spoiled child's mentality.
It looks incredibly ambitious but the area badly needs revitalising. Also the fact there is already a subway connection to the city centre should help it to grow, rather than having to wait for a connection to be built.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
Hotels, shops etc blah blah. It will fail, same old bulls * t... you can't offer hotels etc when there's no industry to supply wages to people to spend the money on thus hotels, shops etc. Greece needs to produce things to bring in finance to pay people to create an economy. Simple as that. That whole area should be a manufacturing zone...
@@mumblinge5892 Μία πολύ μικρή εταιρεία η Κωνσταντιννιδης που το 1995 - 97 κόστιζε 400δρχ, ξαφνικά ξεκίνησε μια πυραμίδα και η τιμή της χωρίς πραγματικο λόγο, ενώ μας έλεγαν η lamda development θα εξαγοραση την εταιρία Κωνσταντινιδης, 90.000 έφτασε!!! Μετα έγινε reverse split, ξαναέπεσε χαμηλά, και νέα φούσκα που κάθε μέρα ανέβαινε 8% ενώ το μόνο που είχε αλλάξει ήταν ότι μπήκαν κάποια νέα ακίνητα, Τίποτε άλλο. Ο κόσμος έχασε στην κυριολεξία τα λεφτά του για πολλά χρόνια. Κάποια στιγμή έγινε ένα μεγάλο σκάνδαλο στην Ελλάδα όταν του παραχώρησαν σε πάρα πολύ μικρή τιμή μια τεράστια έκταση σε ένα πολύ όμορφο προάστιο της Αθήνας στο πρώην αεροδρόμιο του Ελληνικού για τα εν λόγω έργα που αναφέρεις στο βίντεο.
Βeing an amateur scholar of the world of construction and especially tall buildings myself, I am surprised by how inaccurate and misleading a product of one of the leading large construction video producers could be, even for the sake of good intentions, albeit not these being easily detectable in this video. Not by a long shot. First of all, as many others already mentioned, the video should have focused primarily on the site of the Ellinikon, its history and development from the early 20th century airport, to the early construction works of what is to finally become an intelligent green city adjacent to the largest coastal park in Europe. This narrative might have been more preferable and contextually more accurate, rather than allocating half of the video’s running time into making bitter comments about the Olympic Games, which, despite their over-budgeted completion, have been a big success, and had all the prerequisites for their sites to become landmark venues in the long run, in the same manner that this happened in Barcelona and other Olympic cities. The video could also, have focused on why Athens doesn't have any skyscrapers, with the tallest building to this day (the Athens Tower) dating back in the 1970s and being only 103 meters / 337 feet in height. Additionally, the video could have focused on why Athens chose a continuous building system, which, combined with a strange middle eastern version of the modernist architectural style, ended up producing a five-story cement soup where tall buildings may have not been allowed, but all the other shortcomings of dense construction, with lack of green spaces for large parts of the city, being there and tantalizing the city in a number of ways, including the creation of the heat island effect as mentioned in the video. The video should also have not touched upon areas obviously its creators did not know about. Construction for the Olympics was but a small part of the causes that brought Greece to its knees and on the verge of default in the early years of the last decade. This happened mainly due to macroeconomic mismanagement, a sociopolitical crisis, and the deterioration of the country's economic indices due to oversized accrued public debt and lack of prompt response to the problems at hand. Also, It is worth noting that the Integrated Resort and Casino is just ONE project out of at least a dozen of big projects to be scattered in an area of 650 hectares, and that this probably is going to be the only one of the two large casinos to be operating within the greater Athens area for decades to come. In this regard, the only risk factors for the project now, may be external related to imported price inflation and global instability. Finally, a useful reminder about the delays that may take place especially during the early stages of a project, is that, Berlin's old Tempelhof airport ended up to NOT being redeveloped at all, but simply to have its idle open spaces available to the public for recreational purposes. Of course, Athens is a different case as it desperately needs to create a new modern urban footprint, and expand its green spaces to the fullest maximum extent, while maintaining a viable management and maintenance scheme for the viable sustainability of these large estates. Please contact me if you need anything more specific about Athens. In the next few years Athens is bound to become a new case study of urban transformation, especially in the way that it may incorporate tall buildings within its existing urban fabric, it's outskirts, and outside its historical landscape.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
@@efterpiaugoustatos1978 Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead on focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Some mistakes that You mentioned in the video this place that they build it’s an old airport not an olympic stadium or something. Nevertheless I live really close to the upcoming project and i can clarufy that things go really well according to the plan as an Athens citizent i cant wait to see this becoming reality
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
The main Olympic area is in the North part of the city. The sport venues there are still being used. The sport venues at the old airport were just temporary add ons. There were build for just a few years.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
@@activeone paid by the money given by the EU to pay off debts... great idea. Especially since I feel like a Casino isnt gonna save the economy of a country
@@marlonmarrlless8006 any sort of infrastructural investment is a good sign for a city, and will hopefully induce other companies globally to shift their focus to Athens and potentially invest too. Athens is a shithole, the only thing bringing it in are some ruins that barely get looked after themselves, apart from that it is covered in dilapidated housing and graffiti. It needs a revamp.
@@alexandroskarkalisss4317 well then lets hope it flurishes however Im still not fully convinced this project is going to be successful. we‘ll see I guess
Greece has one problem with her "Ruins"... it has too many of them. If you take a look at the Thessaloniki's metro, you will understand why it is defficult , time consuming and very very very expensive to build somthing on ancient fundation. I hope this project will see the finish line within our life time. Also, big thanks for the Greek topic
I don't think it's fair to compare this to Central Park in New York or any other such space. The video gives the impression that this development is right in the middle of Athens, but in fact it's on the outskirts, I think not even formally within city limits. This is actually what will hopefully make it viable. It also has a metro connection to the city.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
@Alex Renn i don't know much about the creator but he is not wrong...whoever says that we haven't abandoned the facilities are just lying to themselves...we have that mentality a lot in Greece sadly...to keep believing that everything is okay and failing to see that it's not...if u say that Greece's streets are full of garbage everywhere, a lot of Greeks will say -no. If u say we have a stray problem in Greece and a lot of animal abuse...again a lot of Greeks will say -no, if u say that Greece is not very technologically advanced ..again -nope, the same people will say that the facilities we used for the Olympics are not neglected...
The only issue with building a massive new public space, which they want to be like "Central Park", is that this site is on the very outskirts of the city and so is quite far away from the bulk of the Athens population. It will be more like a fancy country club than a sprawling downtown park
Dude you are by far wrong 🤣 just the south suburbs of Athens that the old airport used be have by themselves almost 400.000 people, living 20 minutes walk from the park. Also the center of Athens is just 7km from there, or 15 minutes by Metro. Is incredible how bad research and presentation tomorrow's build did about this video
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
@@Nevio857 It is quite literally on the outskirts if you look at the map of Athens. I have been and it's not a place you'd go unless making a special trip to that park. Compare with Central Park (like the video) and it's literally in the very middle of Manhattan (yes I've been there too)
The video has some innacuraces, at least the way it clickbaits the situation because the actual video is mostly pretty accurate. The area that these stadiums were build was the old airport of Greece. After the Olympic Games the area was misused and most of these stadiums were abandoned to ruin. After a lot of debate (and a shady situation considering that the project was given to a known Greek billionaire without a true public tender taking place. Aside from that though, the whole area will be turned into the biggest park in Europe, as the video says and the first true skycrapers of Greece will be build there, which are already sold as real estate. A Casino and a Mall will be build as well. The Old Airport buildings will be maintained and turned into a museum. A Marina and a beach will be made as well. Also, The Olympic Games are only a part of the whole crisis situation.
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
Did you even researched the topic? I am astounded you released this video to be honest and makes me extremely skeptical about the rest of your videos uploaded in this channel... if they are researched in the same manner this was, then wow... just... WOW...
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
I don't think it's the casino that is $8Bln. The casino is only a part of the wider project, though I share your sentiments as the project seems to be centred around the casino
The casino is just one, small part of the project and it’s also a different investor then the one who is doing the park and high-rises. Besides that, the casino is not even shown in the video. The huge building with the skyscraper is the mall shown at 6:00 is not the casino, but the retail park with offices and a hotel.
The Ellinikon Airport complex is not an "Olympic ruin". Of course there are remnants of olympic installations inside the complex, but it would be still an abandoned piece of undeveloped prime real-estate even without the abandoned olympic venues. It has to be repurposed into something that will be at least relatively self-sustainable both in terms of energy and of funding. It is currently a huge "gap" on the map of the city. The lack of parks in Athens can be attributed to the lack of funding required to maintain them, and in the absolute denial of a large part of the population to grant at least part of these spaces to private companies that would help them sustain themselves. A good example is the mess of the "Pedion tou Areos" park in downtown Athens. It was renovated solely as a public park for the Olympics, and then it was left to degrade into a place that you shouldn't dare venture into, due to the lack of funding from the City.
Why are people in the comments so condescending towards Greece? It's not like they're the first country to experience economic turmoil and have a casino some years after. Get off your high horses.
They're condescending because the maker of this video is and therefore perpetuates hatred. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
The true Athens Olympic Legacy: the year is 2040: And now Athens is the homestead of the Olympic games every time. Hosted by a different country, but, as respect to the legacy, it is always held in Athens. History is made every 4 years on top of the previous ones. Kids growing up, and becoming athletes themselves, will walk in the same hallways as their heros once did. A true olympic place with a looot of true history on that spot. But no... Olympic games these days: Some newly build arena, where no history is made, where nobody every has won anything yet, where budgets have been overspend, and two weeks later it will all return to dust again. Billions are waisted every 4 years, and no history is kept. What a great great option we have chosen to preserve our history he?
@@bishwatntl what are you talking about? Athens has some of the most mild climates. It's humidity in the summer ranges between 30% to 40%. And the air quality for many many years isn't worse than London or any other large city.
Buildings account for 40% of our GHG emissions, but what that number does not say is where those emissions come from. Operation and maintenance is a small portion of it compared to the construction itself which accounts for 80% of a buildings emissions. So unless this project is built entirely out of FSC certified timber, it's not going to be "green" or low carbon.
The Greek annual deficit was more than twice the total cost of the Athens games. It’s a nice story that it played a major role in the crisis, but it did not.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
@@alexrenn2479 In the midst of the crisis all sorts of myths were created about Greece but also about the EU and other countries. Being uninformed then was somewhat understandable. Still telling the same nonsense more than a decade later is no longer justifiable. But if you listen to English-language youtubers (TLDR, the English version of Visualpoliitik, Economics Explained) many have a remarkably extensive and not so subtle racism towards countries with other native languages than English. Probably a relic of colonialism.
The mistakes succeed one another.... Which Olympic ruins? This project will take place at the old airport of Athens! Hellinikon project. Which casino? The most important thing is the park which will be huge and will be the biggest in Europe. The Olympic Athletic Centre of Athens (OAKA) and the area around it are already being renovated. That's another project...
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
@@alexrenn2479 I just managed to watch it to the end. You're absolutely right. But I'm Greek and I can tell that this is total cr@p. Others may think that these are facts, but it's just mumbo jumbo.
@@captaingreek Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Generally, the 1984 games in LA, less so the 1996 ones in Atlanta. Even the 1932 games in LA, held during the Great Depression, apparently had a bit of a surplus. Then again, the host city in 1984 built almost nothing new for the event. While some rate that as too modest (& this channel tends to admire "the bigger the better"), Athens shows that a large budget & the hangover following an Olympics aren't worth it.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Airport ruins aswell, not just Olympic ruins. That's why the fuss all those years since the airport closed. And it's part of the Olympic infrastructure.
Φίλε δεν είναι έτσι. Είναι απλά το παλιά αεροδρόμιο Αθηνών, στο οποίο όταν έκλεισε κατασκευάστηκαν κάποια στάδια για τις ανάγκες των ολυμπιακών αγώνων. Η έκταση αυτή θα γίνει πάρκο
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Translation: Dude it's not like that. It is simply the old Athens airport, in which when it was closed some stadiums were built for the needs of the Olympic Games. This land will become a park
at 3:57 is the square of Argostoli Kefalonia which was closed during the winter season for renovation. it has nothing to do with the period of economic crisis.
I would suggest more talking and judgement on built environment context and less on politics, history and countries cultures! Especially on the latter, this video appears to be very judgmental on the mentality and culture of the Greek people. I think you got it incorrect. In fact, I find some of the comments quite insulting for the Greeks.
I agree with you. I made tihis long reply. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
Just proves what a dishonest person the creator is. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
A quite uneducated opinion… almost click-bait uneducated. Lots of different issues put together under the roof “Greek Debt Crisis”. I wonder how many of you had had any experience of Athens en route to the 2004 Games or after them.
in the beginning they said something about Metropolitan park ,then they sold it to a private company (our park), for 600euros per sq/m , the price in the area is about 3000-5000 per sq/m, the idea to keep it as an airport is abandoned and the new airport soon will be traffic full, a new airport will be necessery ,so we will pay again.
I don't understand why countries compete to host the Olympics when nearly every time the venue is left to languish and the cost wildly outweighs the benefit.
I like how the clip says Greece has economically recovered when i just read an article from sept. 2022 where they write about Greece getting 290 billion euro during the crisis, of wich only 20 billion has been payed back to the IMF. Multiple European emergency funds are still waiting for 200 billion euro and different European countries, who lended money directly to Greece, are still waiting for 49,5 billion euro. Not sure if u can call that an economical recovery, but maybe such a big investment and casino will speed up the rate of Greece paying of their debt :) I wish u all good luck with this project in Greece :)
Have you done a video on Sydney olympics? the only Olympics to actually turn a profit. It was because they planned infrastructure for after the Olympics, not just for the games.
this megaproject actually is gonna conect Athens with the sea side, something that most of the tourists didnt feel when they visit Athens. When this finished is gonna make Athens by far the best place for city break and not only in Europe
It's not only a casino. The casino is a part of it. It's gonna be a whole smart city with 80.000 new jobs of which only 3.000 are gonna be in the casino
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Man.... i watch every video of yours... but ... now i am starting doubting... What does the Olympics have to do and the crisis and the cost of them with the private investment? Lamda Development bought the land and will built private luxy houses and luxury hotels.... not the state. If they do not built it, they pay more. Also, most of the spaces for the retailers are alreaydy sold and bank central offices will move there. It is a PRIVATE investement for PRIVATE use except the park. And about the casino... it would be for the reach.... the prices will be out-mind. As the park is publicly accessed and many NGOs and shelters for desables will be stablished, we dont care what rich people do...
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
Ρε μεγάλε, τι τους ευχαριστείς και από πάνω;;; Έχεις καταλάβει ότι τα είπαν όλα λάθος!!;;; Παίζει να είναι από τα χειρότερα βίντεο του tomorrow's build
@@billpapadopoulos8295 kai apo oso exw dei, den einai k to mono video tou en logw kanaliou sto opoio yparxoun arketa lathi k anakriveies. Ki emena sthn arxh mou eixe aresei ws kanali, alla siga siga katalava oti den einai k to oti pio aksiopisto telika.Kai episis, poly epikritikos o agglakos gia thn Ellada.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Starting from the title, this video is completely wrong and lacks research. There is no direct relation between the Olympics and this project, apart from the fact that a few venues for niche sports were temporarily placed there. The casino is just one building that will be built to accommodate the needs of rich tourists. The majority of the space will be a park, next to one of the most privileged beaches in the Mediterranean sea. 5 or 6 buildings will be towers, and there will be also commercial usage with two malls, some office space, cultural spaces and sport venues, in order to make the park safe for use by people all day around. No public funds are used, and the whole investment is by private funds. The video tries to make a story out of nothing, and the title is a clickbait. And I don’t understand the negativity when a peaceful Mediterranean country allows a Development Company to build a touristic and residential resort that will bring thousands of work places to the locals, especially when many of the channel videos are on vanity projects in countries with questionable history on human rights. Further more reading the comments about social housing, “loans from the EU” etc, it seems that any person without personal knowledge is expressing their views. EU surely helped by offering guarantees on Greek public sector debt and indeed the Ellinikon Development will also offer some expensive housing options and most locals will not afford housing units that cost millions. But these real estate sales will fund the rest of the park, the sport venues, the center for persons with disabilities, the lake, the park, the new free to access sandy beach etc. The citizens themselves received a huge cut in pensions and social benefits and wages, but still most of them live respectfully and they can surely afford the small luxury of going to a mall or the beach or use the premises in a way that will make the project financially successful.
I agree with you. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it if you like. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
I wish that the Rio's Olympic Park was demolished and rebuild as something else. (I'm a Brazilian btw) That thing has become a monument to corruption and waste. The venues are abandoned and decaying, the surrounding area is undesirable for developers, and the city (and the estate) isn't capable to upkeep properly.
Ok, you have empathy for Greece and you don't like Athens. First of all the Hellinikon airport is going to be an office area, residental area and it will have a casino. So your title is wrong. Moreover the dept has nothing to do with Olympics. Yes, for Olympics spent money for stadiums that became abandoned, but also we built the Athens metro, Attiki odos (Athenian ring road), Football stadiums renovated and many infastructures upgraded. At last, Athens is not full of ruins. Acropolis has monuments that Europeans took statues from, to move them to their museums.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Your video is really wrong. The megaproject of helliniko is taking place in the area of the old airport of Athens elliniko. This is located in the south cost of Athens. The Olympic stadium is located in the north.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
I have always wondered why, when countries that host the Olympics don't put in mind the dual use of building new facilities for after the games, when most locations go into waste and become rundown and blight!
This video is misleading. The Athens Olympics was one of the least expensive to date and many infrastructure projects were completed for it that have remained useful for Greece; metro, trams, airport etc. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
very bad representation on the video. poor investigation on behalf of you and misleading. That makes me wonder on the other videos done by you. This is a private project called The hellinikon project (not even mention on the video) is a project done on the site of the old Athen's airport and the casino is only a small part of the project not even shown on the renders of video. There will be a business district, a shopping and retail mall, the marina, with the riviera tower and riviera galleria (retail), the casino, the park, residential districts and much more.....(in total 5 skyscrapers are planned) As for the olympic venues yes there were a few on this site, most of them were not permanent from the beginning. but this project has nothing to do with abandoned olympic venues
I agree with you. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Athens wanted to host the Olympics in 1996 to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the televised sporting event that befell in the city, but Atlanta stole the scheme. 'Twas grievous for the Greek fans that they awaited the Games to come to town eight years later. :(
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
I am disturbed that this project's economic contribution is so focused on tourism Tourism is one of the worst fairweather industries. Global economic disruptions effect it disproportionately and quickly. Weve already had three "once in a lifetime" economic meltdowns in just 20 years and now we're expecting a long term downturn. How does a casino plan for economic resilience when economic instability is clearly the norm for the 21st century? A new district focusing on digital services and specialized in remote work would be a less risky plan. The country could finally stop the years of brain drain by investing in a sector that actually requires high standard of education But no, let's build a nice big casino. I'm sure this won't promote gambling addiction that does even more damage to the local economy. Easy convenient access to gambling certainly hasn't fucked over Australia or anything. Definitely won't bleed money on the next global downturn either What a waste
Ok as an Athenian let me just correct everything you said. The area is an old airport. It needs to be revitalised. The government does not want to spend money on the revitalisation so it turns to the private sector. They want a big flashy casino in the middle of it similar to the marina bay sands. So be it. In return a large part of the project becomes a park, the main highway by the sea is buried underground for uninterrupted access to the seaside. The developer also wants to focus on housing, tourism and commerce. They can do whatever they want, the state is paying for none of it and is not responsible about what will happen in a crisis. I agree that Greece is over reliant on tourism and should develop more resilient industries. But what does a district specialised in remote work look like? If it is remote, don't people stay at their houses? Well, there are gonna be houses at the site. Is it offices where people can go work for overseas companies? They'll have that too. The development will have a good mix of uses and while it does not help develop any new innovative industries, it is hardly the place to do so. That is a seafront piece of real estate in a residential area. What else would you use that for instead of tourism. It's a no brainer. Here is my point of view. I personally get to have a park in my city without having to pay anything and I get a couple of shopping malls around it. It is going to increase tourism in the capital even if that means people are gonna struggle in the hard times. So far we've been struggling in the good ones as well because of a lack of decent jobs. The casino, albeit definitely not something to be happy about, is not that important in the context of Greece's gambling problem which mainly revolves around sports betting which recently became available online. If I could choose between stopping a casino and stopping online sports betting I would go for the latter 100%. Unfortunately it seems both are here to stay. Overall there are concerns with this project but the picture is not nearly as bleak as you are portaying it.
@@michaelpapadopoulos6054 sorry, I don't quite follow the logic here Greece already has a gambling problem, therefore adding convenient accessibly gambling options doesnt make a difference? Would you be willing to explain this for me? By digital services focusing on remote work I mean attracting programmers employed by developers in other single market countries without local offices. Manhattan lost about 12 billion in tax revenue to remote work by being unaffordable and over specialized. Europe is experiencing housing problems all over; all any city really needs to do is be more affordable than than average now
It is not Olympic ruins. It is the former airport Hellinikon. Government claims it is a big investment but is just a casino. The 5 millions square meters land includes ancient items was sold for nothing to investors. This is common for public assets during the occupation by the so called lenders of ECM and EFSF. Before that there was an investment in Skouries Chalkidiki where the nature is being destroyed. As far for the bankruptcy it happened because Greece joined eurozone and in 2008 made public the banks publ by publishing collateral bonds for banks debt. Until then Greece had debt like 60% of GDP.
Go to build to innovate channel they explained the project much better, I like your channel but sorry you should take some notes of their work on it, I was waiting for a long time for this project to be treated on this channel but was highly disappointed 😞 .🙌
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
This all sounds good with one exception. They're making a mistake tearing down the decommissioned airport. If this plan succeeds, they're gonna need to reopen that airport eventually.
The airport building by Eoro Sarinen will be repurposed. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
The old international airport , which was supposed to be a turned into a metropolitan park, has been handed to funds that will built thousands of residential luxurius buildings, a casino (athens already has one) and malls etc. And in between a few splashes of trees. It's a disgusting sell out of public property to private interests and a lost opportunity for a city with one of the lowest rates of green per kapita to get a big park for all the locals.
Consider also making a video about Thessaloniki’s ,Greece’s 2nd largest city,metro system which is under construction for the past 18 years and it’s set to complete in 2023 (probably won’t)
That also has something to do with the archaeological sites that are being found. Bring out the tootbrushes. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
I think the problem on that one was all those ancient ruins and artifacts they found while digging it and turned some stations as museums. Only in Greece you have metro station and a museum at the same time. Lmao
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
@@alexrenn2479 completely agree. This video needs to be fact check because the information spread by this person are completely wrong. And nowhere he mentions that he refers to his personal opinions.
dude tomorrow's build honestly did the worse research possible and tried really really hard to make a narrative about the Olympic games (this place was the old airport of Athens, not an Olympic extravaganza) . They didn't say anywhere that this place used to be concrete, abandoned land even before the Olympic games. With the Olympic games it was a small effort to take advantage of this HUGE space but exactly because we had an economic crisis right after the Olympic games (wasn't the games the reason for this crisis) those buildings left to rot like almost every big building in Greece. You have no idea about the size of the space!! The casino is just a small fraction of what is going to be built and planted there. Tomorrow's build I am really disappointed from you
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding. You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from. Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent. More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment. Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is. Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC. Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Not surprise you were misled by the title. That was the creator's purpose. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
most false video ever, the former internationall airport of Athens will be transformed into a huge park with sky scrapers marina, beach and a casino, The Hellenikon
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
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The video is kinda miss-leading tho. The aeria thats being used for this project is not the Olympic village or any of the main places built for the olympics. It contains a couple of training canters and so, but the bigest portion is the old Airport that sits in ruins atm.
Kinda misleading? Totally misleading. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Another busted opportunity to make a relevant video, Fred. Your channels have became the parroting channels of the developers, with no hard questions asked or providing space for the affected communities to talk, but I understand that megalomaniac projects are desirable and people click on them, so your job is done. But it’s not a job for someone who utters words like “sustainable development” in their videos... Finally, then you come to the comments section liking the comments mentioning the hard questions like a true hypocrite… grow a pair.
Lol....well said, my sentiments exactly. A neoliberal parrot. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
It does seem to be quite low density.. is there not a housing shortage in Athens like there is in the rest of Europe? Not saying it needs to match the insane density the rest of the city has, but if you're in a park look out over a row of buildings, a couple of extra floors and less green space in between the buildings (connect the buildings into blocks) really doesn't matter much for the experience, but it can make the housing sections denser. Which in turn gives more usable green space that is fully connected to each other. A park with a lot of buildings in is never really considered an actual park because closer to the buildings it feels like you're walking through someones front yard.
Normally Athens don't have housing shortage, but state, owners and investors of real estate want to use every apartment for tourist rentals or long term rentals for wealthy individuals. That will create problems as the workers from the countryside or immigrants are struggling to afford rental and living costs with salaries ranging from 600 to 900euros p.m for ordinary jobs.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Athens Greece does not need skyscrapers. It needs parks and housing for the the Greek people. I’m sure that’s what Onassis the owner who donated the airport would have wanted for his land given to his people not casinos for the rich
I've always thought the Olympics should just be permanently hosted by Greece. Building stadiums and accommodation anew every 4 years in different cities is a massive waste of money, and if anywhere should host it, it ought to be Greece.
This video constantly shows the OAKA stadium in Athens while talking about Olympic ruins. Meanwhile, this stadium has been in constant use after the Olympics by football teams, concerts, and all kinds of huge events. Also, the Greek state was not paying for its maintenance for many years, since that was a job that its hosting football teams were obliged to do. This video is full of false information and oversimplifications that paint a negative image of Greece that does not really exist. Also everyone should keep in mind that the Hellinikon is not a project payed by Greek or European people's tax money. It is a private investment and it should be judged as such.
It´s not about some "Olympic Ruins", it´s about the whole former International Airport area. And it´s not just about a Casino. It´s a mega project including parks, public spaces, skyscrapers, residential & office buildings, malls and the coastal front.
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He's a smug bigot desperately and slyly trying to throw Greece into a bad light. The title of the video says it all.
You forgot to say in coastal front you ll pay as you ve been visiting Mykonos ...
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Lies again? Marina Bay Sands Like Hercules
@@NIKOS_GEROSIDERIS you pay what you get. If you choose Myconos for vacations, it’s not a secret that is a jet set destination , worldwide. Same as similar destinations elsewhere. What is the issue? If you want these spots to visit, they are not free.
The architects should've adapted greek's rich architecture. This complex is no different from the other complexes in dubai.
True. As a Greek, this looks so out of place for me...
I dont really agree every city must have variety. Paris, Istanbul have tall contemporary buildings although you can still experience the character of the cities .
@@kostantis They all became experts here. Let them Cope and Seethe. It's going to be great. Our modern image to the outside world.
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Yes, correct; ...and to add up it will be built out of cheap labor from poor countries by giving them working visa and salaries of €600 per month. Not any Greek worker wants to work for so low in a country where the basic needs, rents, food prices are artificially inflated to benefit the rich and are leaving the country for good.
A social housing project was denied but a casino was greenlit. Welcome to the real world, Neo.
just make gambling illegal once the building is finnished and bam, free real estate
@@bergschoorsteen But they already did that with the Olympics. Lol
Define "social housing." Does it have the same meaning in Greece as elsewhere? And would the housing have a more positive impact on the people that live there and the environment around them than would a project as described in this video?
@@Hyakman5408 Why wouldn't it or couldn't it have a positive impact? Social housing isn't slums, as long the developers and architects don't make it slums. Financially disadvantaged people want to live comfortably too, they deserve lush parks and safe playgrounds and clean air as much as anyone else.
@2nd3rd1st That is why I'm asking for a definition of the term "social housing." It can mean different things depending on who is providing the definition. Where I live, it means housing subsidized with taxpayer dollars for people who rely on welfare for part or most of their general living expenses. A few of these places that have been around a while have deteriorated noticeably in many different ways (unkempt, higher crime, drug problems, etc), which is attributable to the attitudes of that city's government and populace. But I can think of 2 near my home (in a different city, not far away) that have gone up in the last 5 - 6 years that seem to be doing okay, and have thus far not allowed their neighborhood to follow a trend toward social and economic decay.
I think you should have focused more that this area was the old airport of Athens and not so much about Olympics as there played only a few games also Olympics are not to be blamed for the debt crisis,other factors result to this crisis (i don't say that Olympics hadnt contributed to this crisis but its effect was little)
Πες τα ρε χρυσοστομε!!! Πραγματικά έπαθα πλάκα με το πόσο κακη ανάλυση έκανε το tomorrow's build!!! Για 4 λεπτά μίλαγε για το πόσο μας κατέστρεψαν οι ολυμπιακοί αγώνες. Ενώ στο ίδιο βίντεο λέει ότι της Αθήνας ήταν από τους πιο φθηνούς 🤣🤣🤣 φίλε μην το ψάχνεις και μην τους ακούς. Οι ολυμπιακοί αγώνες ήταν ότι καλύτερο έχουμε κάνει!! Σίγουρα έγινε miss management και πολλές λάθος κινήσεις αλλά αυτό που έφαγε αυτά τα κτίρια και τις εγκαταστάσεις ήταν η κρίση!! Εξαιτίας αυτής δεν προχώρησε κανένα σχέδιο αξιοποίησης αυτών των κτιρίων.
Πόσο ειρωνικό είναι ότι στο εξωτερικό χρησιμοποιείται σαν δικαιολογία της κρίσης οι ολυμπιακοί αγώνες ενώ στην ουσία είναι το αντίθετο
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
They messed up the projects.
@@captaingreek What do you mean?
@@alexrenn2479 Read my other comment. The Olympic Athletic Centre has nothing to do with the park they describe.
It's actually transforming the old airport to a metropolitan park which includes a casino and other things, like a shopping district, a residential skyscraper etc.
A casino is the perfect explanation of Greece's economic mindset. It wants easy or free money, including taking debt. Greeks want holidays 12 months a year, they want luxury, big weddings, good food, but they don't want to work for it thinking the world has some kind of debt to them to feed them. A spoiled child's mentality.
Only there is no park!
@@ifigeniagakoudi6465 there is. Check the video on their homepage. Plenty of areas full of trees.
It looks incredibly ambitious but the area badly needs revitalising. Also the fact there is already a subway connection to the city centre should help it to grow, rather than having to wait for a connection to be built.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
The connection is already being built. The metro will reach Glyfada and that was the plan from the beginning since 2004.
Hotels, shops etc blah blah. It will fail, same old bulls * t... you can't offer hotels etc when there's no industry to supply wages to people to spend the money on thus hotels, shops etc. Greece needs to produce things to bring in finance to pay people to create an economy. Simple as that. That whole area should be a manufacturing zone...
It actually is a private investment by a company specialising in real estate development and belongs to one of the richest greeks out there(Latsis)
Toυ οποίου η εταιρεία είναι αποτέλεσμα χρηματηστηριακής φούσκας και τον χώρο στο Ελληνικό αυτό έλαβε έναντι πινακίου φακής.
@@sthenes1 Babelfish Translation:
Whose company is the result of a stock market bubble and the space in Elliniko received against a lentil plate.
@@mumblinge5892 Μία πολύ μικρή εταιρεία η Κωνσταντιννιδης που το 1995 - 97 κόστιζε 400δρχ, ξαφνικά ξεκίνησε μια πυραμίδα και η τιμή της χωρίς πραγματικο λόγο, ενώ μας έλεγαν η lamda development θα εξαγοραση την εταιρία Κωνσταντινιδης, 90.000 έφτασε!!! Μετα έγινε reverse split, ξαναέπεσε χαμηλά, και νέα φούσκα που κάθε μέρα ανέβαινε 8% ενώ το μόνο που είχε αλλάξει ήταν ότι μπήκαν κάποια νέα ακίνητα, Τίποτε άλλο. Ο κόσμος έχασε στην κυριολεξία τα λεφτά του για πολλά χρόνια.
Κάποια στιγμή έγινε ένα μεγάλο σκάνδαλο στην Ελλάδα όταν του παραχώρησαν σε πάρα πολύ μικρή τιμή μια τεράστια έκταση σε ένα πολύ όμορφο προάστιο της Αθήνας στο πρώην αεροδρόμιο του Ελληνικού για τα εν λόγω έργα που αναφέρεις στο βίντεο.
Βeing an amateur scholar of the world of construction and especially tall buildings myself, I am surprised by how inaccurate and misleading a product of one of the leading large construction video producers could be, even for the sake of good intentions, albeit not these being easily detectable in this video. Not by a long shot.
First of all, as many others already mentioned, the video should have focused primarily on the site of the Ellinikon, its history and development from the early 20th century airport, to the early construction works of what is to finally become an intelligent green city adjacent to the largest coastal park in Europe. This narrative might have been more preferable and contextually more accurate, rather than allocating half of the video’s running time into making bitter comments about the Olympic Games, which, despite their over-budgeted completion, have been a big success, and had all the prerequisites for their sites to become landmark venues in the long run, in the same manner that this happened in Barcelona and other Olympic cities.
The video could also, have focused on why Athens doesn't have any skyscrapers, with the tallest building to this day (the Athens Tower) dating back in the 1970s and being only 103 meters / 337 feet in height. Additionally, the video could have focused on why Athens chose a continuous building system, which, combined with a strange middle eastern version of the modernist architectural style, ended up producing a five-story cement soup where tall buildings may have not been allowed, but all the other shortcomings of dense construction, with lack of green spaces for large parts of the city, being there and tantalizing the city in a number of ways, including the creation of the heat island effect as mentioned in the video.
The video should also have not touched upon areas obviously its creators did not know about. Construction for the Olympics was but a small part of the causes that brought Greece to its knees and on the verge of default in the early years of the last decade. This happened mainly due to macroeconomic mismanagement, a sociopolitical crisis, and the deterioration of the country's economic indices due to oversized accrued public debt and lack of prompt response to the problems at hand.
Also, It is worth noting that the Integrated Resort and Casino is just ONE project out of at least a dozen of big projects to be scattered in an area of 650 hectares, and that this probably is going to be the only one of the two large casinos to be operating within the greater Athens area for decades to come. In this regard, the only risk factors for the project now, may be external related to imported price inflation and global instability.
Finally, a useful reminder about the delays that may take place especially during the early stages of a project, is that, Berlin's old Tempelhof airport ended up to NOT being redeveloped at all, but simply to have its idle open spaces available to the public for recreational purposes. Of course, Athens is a different case as it desperately needs to create a new modern urban footprint, and expand its green spaces to the fullest maximum extent, while maintaining a viable management and maintenance scheme for the viable sustainability of these large estates.
Please contact me if you need anything more specific about Athens. In the next few years Athens is bound to become a new case study of urban transformation, especially in the way that it may incorporate tall buildings within its existing urban fabric, it's outskirts, and outside its historical landscape.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Did the greek goverment in Athens stopped building these uglies concrete bulding and do they renovate the old ones to be more pleasing to watch upon?
Thanks for this comment
I found it a very condescending article and disparaging to the country
@@efterpiaugoustatos1978 Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead on focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Unfortunately this is a video full of inaccuracies.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
It’s a private investment not a public one. You focused a lot on the Olympics part however the area was mainly used as an airport.
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
@@alexrenn2479 you’re very right, good to know thanks
"Solar panels on every rooftop"... not one rendering showing anything but a tonne of trees and grass everywhere -.-
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Some mistakes that You mentioned in the video this place that they build it’s an old airport not an olympic stadium or something. Nevertheless I live really close to the upcoming project and i can clarufy that things go really well according to the plan as an Athens citizent i cant wait to see this becoming reality
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
Half of it was part of the Olympic complex. There's the rafting course, the shooting field, a football field, the baseball field.
Yes it casino missed the area.
Timing 1:21 shows the picture of Kyiv, not Athens, and there the stadium is still working (not used during the wartime, ofc).
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
The main Olympic area is in the North part of the city. The sport venues there are still being used. The sport venues at the old airport were just temporary add ons. There were build for just a few years.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
The sports venues in Elliniko are still there. And the OAKA is in disgusting condition too, even though it is used.
a huge casino isn't exactly something I would want in my neighborhood.
I wonder how the Greeks will feel about this.
probably just be glad any sort of investment is being put into a country with a dead economy
@@activeone paid by the money given by the EU to pay off debts... great idea. Especially since I feel like a Casino isnt gonna save the economy of a country
@@marlonmarrlless8006 any sort of infrastructural investment is a good sign for a city, and will hopefully induce other companies globally to shift their focus to Athens and potentially invest too. Athens is a shithole, the only thing bringing it in are some ruins that barely get looked after themselves, apart from that it is covered in dilapidated housing and graffiti. It needs a revamp.
@@marlonmarrlless8006 the project is funded by private investements not by state
@@alexandroskarkalisss4317 well then lets hope it flurishes however Im still not fully convinced this project is going to be successful. we‘ll see I guess
Greece has one problem with her "Ruins"... it has too many of them. If you take a look at the Thessaloniki's metro, you will understand why it is defficult , time consuming and very very very expensive to build somthing on ancient fundation. I hope this project will see the finish line within our life time.
Also, big thanks for the Greek topic
I don't think it's fair to compare this to Central Park in New York or any other such space. The video gives the impression that this development is right in the middle of Athens, but in fact it's on the outskirts, I think not even formally within city limits. This is actually what will hopefully make it viable. It also has a metro connection to the city.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
It’s within Athens’ borders, but it’s in the south-east region, far from the city center
We have not abandoned the sports facilities and the Olympic Village!
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Yes we have🙄
@Alex Renn i don't know much about the creator but he is not wrong...whoever says that we haven't abandoned the facilities are just lying to themselves...we have that mentality a lot in Greece sadly...to keep believing that everything is okay and failing to see that it's not...if u say that Greece's streets are full of garbage everywhere, a lot of Greeks will say -no. If u say we have a stray problem in Greece and a lot of animal abuse...again a lot of Greeks will say -no, if u say that Greece is not very technologically advanced ..again -nope, the same people will say that the facilities we used for the Olympics are not neglected...
@@katerina6990 εσείς κυρία Κατερίνα που ζείτε; Εκτός Ελλάδας;
@@billy-bo_ μιλάς για 2-3 εγκαταστάσεις ενώ τα περισσότερα είναι διαλυμένα και έχουν κλαπεί από τους Γύφτους.
The only issue with building a massive new public space, which they want to be like "Central Park", is that this site is on the very outskirts of the city and so is quite far away from the bulk of the Athens population. It will be more like a fancy country club than a sprawling downtown park
Dude you are by far wrong 🤣 just the south suburbs of Athens that the old airport used be have by themselves almost 400.000 people, living 20 minutes walk from the park. Also the center of Athens is just 7km from there, or 15 minutes by Metro.
Is incredible how bad research and presentation tomorrow's build did about this video
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
It's not in the outskirts. It's literally 15 mins away with the metro from the city center.
@@tasoskar9693 Ο,τι θελει λεει ο καθενας πραγματικα
@@Nevio857 It is quite literally on the outskirts if you look at the map of Athens. I have been and it's not a place you'd go unless making a special trip to that park. Compare with Central Park (like the video) and it's literally in the very middle of Manhattan (yes I've been there too)
The video has some innacuraces, at least the way it clickbaits the situation because the actual video is mostly pretty accurate. The area that these stadiums were build was the old airport of Greece. After the Olympic Games the area was misused and most of these stadiums were abandoned to ruin. After a lot of debate (and a shady situation considering that the project was given to a known Greek billionaire without a true public tender taking place. Aside from that though, the whole area will be turned into the biggest park in Europe, as the video says and the first true skycrapers of Greece will be build there, which are already sold as real estate. A Casino and a Mall will be build as well. The Old Airport buildings will be maintained and turned into a museum. A Marina and a beach will be made as well.
Also, The Olympic Games are only a part of the whole crisis situation.
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
Did you even researched the topic? I am astounded you released this video to be honest and makes me extremely skeptical about the rest of your videos uploaded in this channel... if they are researched in the same manner this was, then wow... just... WOW...
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Exactly! It's just goofing around to upload something without sources.
Athens is the new hotspot
Theres something incredibly repugnant about the fact that an 8 billion dollar casino is going to be built in athens....
I don't think it's the casino that is $8Bln. The casino is only a part of the wider project, though I share your sentiments as the project seems to be centred around the casino
Why? The city needs money and tourism is there biggest local economy
@@CHMichael Maybe because its athens?
A quite evil turn of fortune, since people having lost all life savings are especially vulnerable to gambling
The casino is just one, small part of the project and it’s also a different investor then the one who is doing the park and high-rises. Besides that, the casino is not even shown in the video. The huge building with the skyscraper is the mall shown at 6:00 is not the casino, but the retail park with offices and a hotel.
The Ellinikon Airport complex is not an "Olympic ruin". Of course there are remnants of olympic installations inside the complex, but it would be still an abandoned piece of undeveloped prime real-estate even without the abandoned olympic venues. It has to be repurposed into something that will be at least relatively self-sustainable both in terms of energy and of funding. It is currently a huge "gap" on the map of the city. The lack of parks in Athens can be attributed to the lack of funding required to maintain them, and in the absolute denial of a large part of the population to grant at least part of these spaces to private companies that would help them sustain themselves. A good example is the mess of the "Pedion tou Areos" park in downtown Athens. It was renovated solely as a public park for the Olympics, and then it was left to degrade into a place that you shouldn't dare venture into, due to the lack of funding from the City.
The negative bias in this video 💀 more than half of it focuses on Greece's woes instead of talking of the actual project. Really?
It was relevant information about the project.
Why are people in the comments so condescending towards Greece? It's not like they're the first country to experience economic turmoil and have a casino some years after. Get off your high horses.
They're condescending because the maker of this video is and therefore perpetuates hatred. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
@@alexrenn2479 Thank you for this. I've read every word.
@@building_keevo You're welcome. We have to all out this guy. He shouldn't get away with spreading his lies and hate.
The true Athens Olympic Legacy:
the year is 2040:
And now Athens is the homestead of the Olympic games every time. Hosted by a different country, but, as respect to the legacy, it is always held in Athens.
History is made every 4 years on top of the previous ones.
Kids growing up, and becoming athletes themselves, will walk in the same hallways as their heros once did.
A true olympic place with a looot of true history on that spot.
But no...
Olympic games these days:
Some newly build arena,
where no history is made,
where nobody every has won anything yet,
where budgets have been overspend,
and two weeks later it will all return to dust again.
Billions are waisted every 4 years, and no history is kept.
What a great great option we have chosen to preserve our history he?
Athens was actually a very poor choice - far too humid and the air quality was awful - just look at what the marathon runners had to put up with.
@@bishwatntl what are you talking about? Athens has some of the most mild climates. It's humidity in the summer ranges between 30% to 40%. And the air quality for many many years isn't worse than London or any other large city.
@@dimitriostsiganis Try talking to the marathon runners who took part in 2004 and you'll maybe get a different view.
@@bishwatntl I'm sorry they suffered through the original Marathon run. Which is been organized every year btw.
Many Olympic Games have kept their infrastructure - if that is what you are referring to - Sydney and London come to mind
Good that they're creating lots of green space, something Athens desperately needs. Hopefully the metro goes there?
It does, yes
The green space is needed elsewhere. South Athens has plenty of greenery and is far less dencely populated.
@@GeorgeMasterclass true, i think central and north athens needs more
@@dimitris_kour1505 north is fine I live in north, just central and west need it especially west
There's already a station of the Blue line (Elliniko metro station), plus on the coastline is already served by the tram line as well.
Buildings account for 40% of our GHG emissions, but what that number does not say is where those emissions come from. Operation and maintenance is a small portion of it compared to the construction itself which accounts for 80% of a buildings emissions. So unless this project is built entirely out of FSC certified timber, it's not going to be "green" or low carbon.
Καλά, όταν γίνουν τα ξαναλέμε..και το κόστος βέβαια θα έχει ξεπεράσει ήδη τα 30-40 δις. μέχρι να έχει ολοκληρωθεί.
The Greek annual deficit was more than twice the total cost of the Athens games. It’s a nice story that it played a major role in the crisis, but it did not.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
@@alexrenn2479
In the midst of the crisis all sorts of myths were created about Greece but also about the EU and other countries. Being uninformed then was somewhat understandable. Still telling the same nonsense more than a decade later is no longer justifiable. But if you listen to English-language youtubers (TLDR, the English version of Visualpoliitik, Economics Explained) many have a remarkably extensive and not so subtle racism towards countries with other native languages than English. Probably a relic of colonialism.
The mistakes succeed one another....
Which Olympic ruins? This project will take place at the old airport of Athens! Hellinikon project.
Which casino? The most important thing is the park which will be huge and will be the biggest in Europe.
The Olympic Athletic Centre of Athens (OAKA) and the area around it are already being renovated. That's another project...
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
@@alexrenn2479 I just managed to watch it to the end. You're absolutely right. But I'm Greek and I can tell that this is total cr@p. Others may think that these are facts, but it's just mumbo jumbo.
@@captaingreek Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Nothing to do with Olympics, it's a decommissioned airport.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
The 2004 Greek Olympics were a success during the 2 weeks. Everything went off flawlessly with out a hitch.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Are there any olympics or world cup infrastructure (except Japan?) that actually continued life and made a good worth of the investment?
Generally, the 1984 games in LA, less so the 1996 ones in Atlanta. Even the 1932 games in LA, held during the Great Depression, apparently had a bit of a surplus. Then again, the host city in 1984 built almost nothing new for the event. While some rate that as too modest (& this channel tends to admire "the bigger the better"), Athens shows that a large budget & the hangover following an Olympics aren't worth it.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Airport ruins aswell, not just Olympic ruins. That's why the fuss all those years since the airport closed. And it's part of the Olympic infrastructure.
Ναι και στην Θεσσαλονίκη θα κάνουνε μετρό
That parking lot in 0:54 is where I learned how to drive, I can see that parking lot from my balcony!!!!
Φίλε δεν είναι έτσι. Είναι απλά το παλιά αεροδρόμιο Αθηνών, στο οποίο όταν έκλεισε κατασκευάστηκαν κάποια στάδια για τις ανάγκες των ολυμπιακών αγώνων. Η έκταση αυτή θα γίνει πάρκο
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Translation: Dude it's not like that. It is simply the old Athens airport, in which when it was closed some stadiums were built for the needs of the Olympic Games. This land will become a park
at 3:57 is the square of Argostoli Kefalonia which was closed during the winter season for renovation. it has nothing to do with the period of economic crisis.
I would suggest more talking and judgement on built environment context and less on politics, history and countries cultures! Especially on the latter, this video appears to be very judgmental on the mentality and culture of the Greek people. I think you got it incorrect. In fact, I find some of the comments quite insulting for the Greeks.
I agree with you. I made tihis long reply.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
Αυτή την στιγμή, αυτό μας έλειπε
1:21 that's Olympic stadium in KYIV!!!
Just proves what a dishonest person the creator is. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
Τι λες τώρα, ασχολήθηκε το Tomorrow's Build μαζί μας, κάτι κάνουμε καλά.
A quite uneducated opinion… almost click-bait uneducated. Lots of different issues put together under the roof “Greek Debt Crisis”. I wonder how many of you had had any experience of Athens en route to the 2004 Games or after them.
in the beginning they said something about Metropolitan park ,then they sold it to a private company (our park), for 600euros per sq/m , the price in the area is about 3000-5000 per sq/m, the idea to keep it as an airport is abandoned and the new airport soon will be traffic full, a new airport will be necessery ,so we will pay again.
Damn , now I wanna play city skylines
I don't understand why countries compete to host the Olympics when nearly every time the venue is left to languish and the cost wildly outweighs the benefit.
Τιμή Και Δόξα Στην Ελληνική Δημοκρατία!
lol
I like how the clip says Greece has economically recovered when i just read an article from sept. 2022 where they write about Greece getting 290 billion euro during the crisis, of wich only 20 billion has been payed back to the IMF. Multiple European emergency funds are still waiting for 200 billion euro and different European countries, who lended money directly to Greece, are still waiting for 49,5 billion euro.
Not sure if u can call that an economical recovery, but maybe such a big investment and casino will speed up the rate of Greece paying of their debt :)
I wish u all good luck with this project in Greece :)
ADD A FORMULA 1 TRACK TO THE SITE!
Considering Greece’s large tourist numbers each year, a casino and renewed gambling industry is going to be great for the economy
Have you done a video on Sydney olympics? the only Olympics to actually turn a profit. It was because they planned infrastructure for after the Olympics, not just for the games.
London was well known for being profitable too with a legacy
Why the F**** do they want a Casino? The tall building will also ruin the view from the Acropolis to Pireaus.
this megaproject actually is gonna conect Athens with the sea side, something that most of the tourists didnt feel when they visit Athens.
When this finished is gonna make Athens by far the best place for city break and not only in Europe
It's not only a casino. The casino is a part of it. It's gonna be a whole smart city with 80.000 new jobs of which only 3.000 are gonna be in the casino
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
If this really happens bro i swear I'll go permanently in Greece, the buid is so cool and architecture is awesome
We dont need casinos in Greece and certainly not addicts like yourself !
@@moonallure9697 I'm not addicted to casinos wdym, i was talking about the entire plan so my comment above don't have anything that says casino lmao
Man.... i watch every video of yours... but ... now i am starting doubting... What does the Olympics have to do and the crisis and the cost of them with the private investment? Lamda Development bought the land and will built private luxy houses and luxury hotels.... not the state. If they do not built it, they pay more. Also, most of the spaces for the retailers are alreaydy sold and bank central offices will move there. It is a PRIVATE investement for PRIVATE use except the park. And about the casino... it would be for the reach.... the prices will be out-mind. As the park is publicly accessed and many NGOs and shelters for desables will be stablished, we dont care what rich people do...
The video is obviously made to tarnish Greece, no objectivity and substance about the project. It's a hack job, a nasty piece of work and the English creator's name is Fred Mills.
Greece will rise again!! 🇬🇷
Thanks for talking about my country!
Ρε μεγάλε, τι τους ευχαριστείς και από πάνω;;; Έχεις καταλάβει ότι τα είπαν όλα λάθος!!;;; Παίζει να είναι από τα χειρότερα βίντεο του tomorrow's build
@@tasoskar9693 ναι η αλήθεια είναι ότι έχει πολλά λάθη και ασάφειες
@@billpapadopoulos8295 kai apo oso exw dei, den einai k to mono video tou en logw kanaliou sto opoio yparxoun arketa lathi k anakriveies. Ki emena sthn arxh mou eixe aresei ws kanali, alla siga siga katalava oti den einai k to oti pio aksiopisto telika.Kai episis, poly epikritikos o agglakos gia thn Ellada.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Den katalaves oti to koroidevei? Ton efxaristeis kiolas ?
I am from Greece and I can assure you it's not only a casino but many things so why are you writing only casino ?
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Starting from the title, this video is completely wrong and lacks research. There is no direct relation between the Olympics and this project, apart from the fact that a few venues for niche sports were temporarily placed there. The casino is just one building that will be built to accommodate the needs of rich tourists. The majority of the space will be a park, next to one of the most privileged beaches in the Mediterranean sea. 5 or 6 buildings will be towers, and there will be also commercial usage with two malls, some office space, cultural spaces and sport venues, in order to make the park safe for use by people all day around. No public funds are used, and the whole investment is by private funds. The video tries to make a story out of nothing, and the title is a clickbait. And I don’t understand the negativity when a peaceful Mediterranean country allows a Development Company to build a touristic and residential resort that will bring thousands of work places to the locals, especially when many of the channel videos are on vanity projects in countries with questionable history on human rights. Further more reading the comments about social housing, “loans from the EU” etc, it seems that any person without personal knowledge is expressing their views. EU surely helped by offering guarantees on Greek public sector debt and indeed the Ellinikon Development will also offer some expensive housing options and most locals will not afford housing units that cost millions. But these real estate sales will fund the rest of the park, the sport venues, the center for persons with disabilities, the lake, the park, the new free to access sandy beach etc. The citizens themselves received a huge cut in pensions and social benefits and wages, but still most of them live respectfully and they can surely afford the small luxury of going to a mall or the beach or use the premises in a way that will make the project financially successful.
I agree with you. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it if you like.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
I wish that the Rio's Olympic Park was demolished and rebuild as something else. (I'm a Brazilian btw) That thing has become a monument to corruption and waste. The venues are abandoned and decaying, the surrounding area is undesirable for developers, and the city (and the estate) isn't capable to upkeep properly.
Ok, you have empathy for Greece and you don't like Athens. First of all the Hellinikon airport is going to be an office area, residental area and it will have a casino. So your title is wrong. Moreover the dept has nothing to do with Olympics. Yes, for Olympics spent money for stadiums that became abandoned, but also we built the Athens metro, Attiki odos (Athenian ring road), Football stadiums renovated and many infastructures upgraded. At last, Athens is not full of ruins. Acropolis has monuments that Europeans took statues from, to move them to their museums.
I thought u were about to say the ruins of the first ever Olympic Games and I was like: HUH?!?
I don't necessarily agree with the project, but I understand why it's been green-lit - especially when the site has been sitting vacant for so long.
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
is Source trust me bro? im greek and i cant find any sources
All those megaprojects around the world are going to be great travel destinations! Can't wait for them to be finished!
Your video is really wrong.
The megaproject of helliniko is taking place in the area of the old airport of Athens elliniko. This is located in the south cost of Athens. The Olympic stadium is located in the north.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
I have always wondered why, when countries that host the Olympics don't put in mind the dual use of building new facilities for after the games, when most locations go into waste and become rundown and blight!
This video is misleading. The Athens Olympics was one of the least expensive to date and many infrastructure projects were completed for it that have remained useful for Greece; metro, trams, airport etc.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
very bad representation on the video. poor investigation on behalf of you and misleading. That makes me wonder on the other videos done by you. This is a private project called The hellinikon project (not even mention on the video) is a project done on the site of the old Athen's airport and the casino is only a small part of the project not even shown on the renders of video. There will be a business district, a shopping and retail mall, the marina, with the riviera tower and riviera galleria (retail), the casino, the park, residential districts and much more.....(in total 5 skyscrapers are planned) As for the olympic venues yes there were a few on this site, most of them were not permanent from the beginning. but this project has nothing to do with abandoned olympic venues
I agree with you. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
Athens wanted to host the Olympics in 1996 to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the televised sporting event that befell in the city, but Atlanta stole the scheme. 'Twas grievous for the Greek fans that they awaited the Games to come to town eight years later. :(
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
I am disturbed that this project's economic contribution is so focused on tourism
Tourism is one of the worst fairweather industries. Global economic disruptions effect it disproportionately and quickly. Weve already had three "once in a lifetime" economic meltdowns in just 20 years and now we're expecting a long term downturn. How does a casino plan for economic resilience when economic instability is clearly the norm for the 21st century?
A new district focusing on digital services and specialized in remote work would be a less risky plan. The country could finally stop the years of brain drain by investing in a sector that actually requires high standard of education
But no, let's build a nice big casino. I'm sure this won't promote gambling addiction that does even more damage to the local economy. Easy convenient access to gambling certainly hasn't fucked over Australia or anything. Definitely won't bleed money on the next global downturn either
What a waste
Ok as an Athenian let me just correct everything you said. The area is an old airport. It needs to be revitalised. The government does not want to spend money on the revitalisation so it turns to the private sector. They want a big flashy casino in the middle of it similar to the marina bay sands. So be it. In return a large part of the project becomes a park, the main highway by the sea is buried underground for uninterrupted access to the seaside. The developer also wants to focus on housing, tourism and commerce. They can do whatever they want, the state is paying for none of it and is not responsible about what will happen in a crisis.
I agree that Greece is over reliant on tourism and should develop more resilient industries. But what does a district specialised in remote work look like? If it is remote, don't people stay at their houses? Well, there are gonna be houses at the site. Is it offices where people can go work for overseas companies? They'll have that too. The development will have a good mix of uses and while it does not help develop any new innovative industries, it is hardly the place to do so. That is a seafront piece of real estate in a residential area. What else would you use that for instead of tourism. It's a no brainer.
Here is my point of view. I personally get to have a park in my city without having to pay anything and I get a couple of shopping malls around it. It is going to increase tourism in the capital even if that means people are gonna struggle in the hard times. So far we've been struggling in the good ones as well because of a lack of decent jobs.
The casino, albeit definitely not something to be happy about, is not that important in the context of Greece's gambling problem which mainly revolves around sports betting which recently became available online. If I could choose between stopping a casino and stopping online sports betting I would go for the latter 100%. Unfortunately it seems both are here to stay.
Overall there are concerns with this project but the picture is not nearly as bleak as you are portaying it.
@@michaelpapadopoulos6054 sorry, I don't quite follow the logic here
Greece already has a gambling problem, therefore adding convenient accessibly gambling options doesnt make a difference?
Would you be willing to explain this for me?
By digital services focusing on remote work I mean attracting programmers employed by developers in other single market countries without local offices. Manhattan lost about 12 billion in tax revenue to remote work by being unaffordable and over specialized. Europe is experiencing housing problems all over; all any city really needs to do is be more affordable than than average now
It is not Olympic ruins. It is the former airport Hellinikon. Government claims it is a big investment but is just a casino. The 5 millions square meters land includes ancient items was sold for nothing to investors. This is common for public assets during the occupation by the so called lenders of ECM and EFSF. Before that there was an investment in Skouries Chalkidiki where the nature is being destroyed.
As far for the bankruptcy it happened because Greece joined eurozone and in 2008 made public the banks publ by publishing collateral bonds for banks debt. Until then Greece had debt like 60% of GDP.
Very intersting plan, it will be nice to see the area in use again,, thanks 2X⚡
Does anyone know the sources for this? can't find any plans online, other than a plan to build on the old airport, and no tall buildings or casinos
Search for the ellinikon project
Go to build to innovate channel they explained the project much better, I like your channel but sorry you should take some notes of their work on it, I was waiting for a long time for this project to be treated on this channel but was highly disappointed 😞 .🙌
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
This all sounds good with one exception.
They're making a mistake tearing down the decommissioned airport.
If this plan succeeds, they're gonna need to reopen that airport eventually.
The airport building by Eoro Sarinen will be repurposed.
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Athenians, Egyptians and Mayans building elephant projects, what's going on?
Should only others built them?
This is not a state project, and it shouldn't be judged as such.
The old international airport , which was supposed to be a turned into a metropolitan park, has been handed to funds that will built thousands of residential luxurius buildings, a casino (athens already has one) and malls etc. And in between a few splashes of trees. It's a disgusting sell out of public property to private interests and a lost opportunity for a city with one of the lowest rates of green per kapita to get a big park for all the locals.
Consider also making a video about Thessaloniki’s ,Greece’s 2nd largest city,metro system which is under construction for the past 18 years and it’s set to complete in 2023 (probably won’t)
That also has something to do with the archaeological sites that are being found. Bring out the tootbrushes. I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
I think the problem on that one was all those ancient ruins and artifacts they found while digging it and turned some stations as museums. Only in Greece you have metro station and a museum at the same time. Lmao
I believe the Olympic village DID become affordable housing and was given as a social benefit
It did
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title.
The economic facts in this video are wrong. Olympic games was not what lead to economic crisis!
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
@@alexrenn2479 completely agree. This video needs to be fact check because the information spread by this person are completely wrong. And nowhere he mentions that he refers to his personal opinions.
I can’t wait for this to be completed 👌
Nothing does more to encourage a financial recovery of the country than to build a huge gambling facility.
dude tomorrow's build honestly did the worse research possible and tried really really hard to make a narrative about the Olympic games (this place was the old airport of Athens, not an Olympic extravaganza) . They didn't say anywhere that this place used to be concrete, abandoned land even before the Olympic games. With the Olympic games it was a small effort to take advantage of this HUGE space but exactly because we had an economic crisis right after the Olympic games (wasn't the games the reason for this crisis) those buildings left to rot like almost every big building in Greece.
You have no idea about the size of the space!! The casino is just a small fraction of what is going to be built and planted there.
Tomorrow's build I am really disappointed from you
I made tihis reply. A bit long, but please try and read it for a better, more honest understanding.
You can immediately tell this guy (the creator of the video) is a smug bigot with an anti-greek agenda just by the title of this video, so dishonest, misleading and offensive. Even though he wants you to believe that it's all about a casino, that's only one, almost insignificant part in relation to the rest of what's being constructed with the Ellinikon Project, which is being built on the site of Greece's old international airport, where the name Ellinikon, meaning "Greek" in Greek comes from.
Firstly, the Olympic venues that were built on the site of the old Ellinikon airport were always intended to be temporary and up for future redevelopment, so it would have been more honest to say that they're turning the old international airport ,which was then temporarily used for olympic venues, into Europe's biggest urban development project. Baseball and other unpopular sports in Greece with their stadiums at Ellinikon were never intended to be permanent.
More accurately, this huge development will feature Europe's biggest coastal park, housing for varied incomes with Norman Foster's tower already sold out, cultural, social, commercial and business enterprise buildings, a state-of-the-art marina and no less the repurposed old airport terminal building by world famous Finnish architect Eero Saarinen, but no mention of such an important building in this video, just trying to make it mainly about a casino and with that to show Greece in a bad light, which of course translates to bigotry and racism. This major European development is also striving for environmental sustainability as well as being funded by private investment.
Secondly, the costs for the Athens Olympics has very little to do with the economic woes of the country, because as we all know now the Global Financial Crisis which led to the Eurocrisis was mainly caused by the irresponsible and greedy big banks' toxic investments on Wall St and The City of London and the EU having to bail those big banks out when those investments collapsed. In other words socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the people, which in turn influenced Brexit and other forms of mass opposition by the people towards the establishment. So even though we were told that the EU was bailing out Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain etc, we now know in hindsight that they bailed out thebig banks and there's plenty of credible reports online to prove it, search for yourselves and don't believe this hack who is just rehashing and perpetuating the initial dishonest reports and again proving how misleading and dishonest that he is.
Finally, if you think this is too much of a tall order for Greece to see through, just look into the SNFCC development , which has recently been established on the old horse-racing track site, also located on the coast of Athens and you'll discover a truly world-class, hugely successful, large-scale urban project that was also privately funded and rates LEED environmentally sustainable, designed by Renzo Piano. It has been called arguably the world's finest cultural complex, featuring a state-of-the-art opera theatre, concert hall, library, as well as a huge and beautiful native park with a recreational canal, a great centre of learning, recreation and entertainment for the people, healthy body and mind. The Greeks have this template to work from and not surprising that such a successful large-scale urban project has not been showcased on this channel because the bigot(s) that make these videos wouldn't want you to know that Greece is capable of successfully building and establishing world class and leading infrastructure like the SNFCC.
Now, to the creator(s) of this dishonest video, try to show some rectitude and reword your misleading and bigoted title, that is if you have any decency about you.
I thought they were going to turn an ancient ruin into a casino when I saw the title and I was about to throw a fit
Not surprise you were misled by the title. That was the creator's purpose. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
most false video ever, the former internationall airport of Athens will be transformed into a huge park with sky scrapers marina, beach and a casino, The Hellenikon
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has employed nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
the grounds will also include the former interantional airport of athens
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The video is kinda miss-leading tho. The aeria thats being used for this project is not the Olympic village or any of the main places built for the olympics. It contains a couple of training canters and so, but the bigest portion is the old Airport that sits in ruins atm.
Kinda misleading? Totally misleading. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used. the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Another busted opportunity to make a relevant video, Fred. Your channels have became the parroting channels of the developers, with no hard questions asked or providing space for the affected communities to talk, but I understand that megalomaniac projects are desirable and people click on them, so your job is done. But it’s not a job for someone who utters words like “sustainable development” in their videos... Finally, then you come to the comments section liking the comments mentioning the hard questions like a true hypocrite… grow a pair.
Lol....well said, my sentiments exactly. A neoliberal parrot. Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Why not build a rare earth processing plant and/or semiconductor fabrication facility?! Things that actually have economic long-term viability.
It does seem to be quite low density.. is there not a housing shortage in Athens like there is in the rest of Europe?
Not saying it needs to match the insane density the rest of the city has, but if you're in a park look out over a row of buildings, a couple of extra floors and less green space in between the buildings (connect the buildings into blocks) really doesn't matter much for the experience, but it can make the housing sections denser. Which in turn gives more usable green space that is fully connected to each other. A park with a lot of buildings in is never really considered an actual park because closer to the buildings it feels like you're walking through someones front yard.
Normally Athens don't have housing shortage, but state, owners and investors of real estate want to use every apartment for tourist rentals or long term rentals for wealthy individuals. That will create problems as the workers from the countryside or immigrants are struggling to afford rental and living costs with salaries ranging from 600 to 900euros p.m for ordinary jobs.
I first thought they were going to build on the ancient ruins of Olympia. Omg was i relieved when i saw it wasn't that😂
Who else saw the title and thought Greece was about to demolish some historical artifact from Ancient Greece to build a casino?
Fred Mills the creator of this video (look up his profile online if you like) has used nazi-type hate rhetoric, both overt and dog-whistle, to paint Greece and Greek people as the "detestable other". His choice of words, the questionable clips he used, the rehashing of false reports that we all know now to be untrue or at the very least debatable, the sheer lies about the project, including the title, the editing, the smug and supercilious tone, as well as the tropes throughout the video, proves it. Instead of focussing on what could be coverage of an amazing project, he has instead used the opportunity to attack and belittle Greece and the Greek people and with that shown his true racist colours. How does anyone get off on doing someting lke that? What an appalling, pitiful little man he is.
Athens Greece does not need skyscrapers. It needs parks and housing for the the Greek people. I’m sure that’s what Onassis the owner who donated the airport would
have wanted for his land given to his people not casinos for the rich
we are changing the old airport to a casino, several hotels and a huge park
though its not that great so far
I've always thought the Olympics should just be permanently hosted by Greece. Building stadiums and accommodation anew every 4 years in different cities is a massive waste of money, and if anywhere should host it, it ought to be Greece.
1:21 -- that's Kyiv )
This video constantly shows the OAKA stadium in Athens while talking about Olympic ruins. Meanwhile, this stadium has been in constant use after the Olympics by football teams, concerts, and all kinds of huge events. Also, the Greek state was not paying for its maintenance for many years, since that was a job that its hosting football teams were obliged to do. This video is full of false information and oversimplifications that paint a negative image of Greece that does not really exist. Also everyone should keep in mind that the Hellinikon is not a project payed by Greek or European people's tax money. It is a private investment and it should be judged as such.