Meet The Greek Shipping Billionaires Getting Rich Off Russian Oil

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  • Sanctions after the invasion of Ukraine sent tanker values soaring, boosting the fortunes of these Greek maritime moguls to record highs and minting at least seven new 10-figure fortunes.
    Forbes estimates there are now at least 12 shipping billionaires in Greece, more than at any other time in history. Seven of them are making their debut in Forbes’ billionaire ranks. They are worth a collective $32 billion-the equivalent of roughly 12% of the country’s gross domestic product.
    These tycoons are the latest in a line of swashbuckling pioneers hailing back to iconic figures like Aristotle Onassis and Stavros Niarchos, who launched the global oil tanker trade after World War II and became famous for their glamorous marriages and lifestyles. This newer group has been in shipping for decades but kept a lower profile. (Despite their success, none would speak to Forbes, while their representatives either declined to comment or did not respond.)
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:24 Greece's Presence In The Shipping Industry
    2:46 How Has Greece Made So Much Revenue With Shipping
    6:59 How Onassis and Niarchos Reached 10 Figure Status
    12:44 Tax Sanctions And Where It Applies In Greece
    15:20 How Long Will Greece's Shipping Boom Last
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 378

  • @Matti_us_Alpe
    @Matti_us_Alpe 8 місяців тому +434

    When Americans get rich while dealing with shady people then it is ok and good.

    • @SomeoneElseRN
      @SomeoneElseRN 8 місяців тому +5

      isnt that right world health organisation, european leaders and pharmaceutical industries??????????

    • @giwrgossoiles3536
      @giwrgossoiles3536 8 місяців тому +15

      Σου θίξαμε του εφοπλιστές ;;;

    • @SomeoneElseRN
      @SomeoneElseRN 8 місяців тому

      @@giwrgossoiles3536 όχι.......... αλλά δε φταίνε αυτοί........ αυτοί επιχειρηματίες είναι......... οι κυβερνήσεις τι κάνουν;;;;;;;;

    • @Alihan_1988
      @Alihan_1988 4 місяці тому

      Who Americans deal with?

    • @jyy9624
      @jyy9624 Місяць тому

      If you're right things wouldn't work

  • @stewiegiligan
    @stewiegiligan 8 місяців тому +644

    Forbes, what size do you wear in cement?

    • @albundy8049
      @albundy8049 8 місяців тому +129

      😂😅😂😅 only a few will get your joke ...but it's a good one

    • @SterPap
      @SterPap 8 місяців тому +54

      μύσταρε

    • @Hellas7Piraeus88
      @Hellas7Piraeus88 8 місяців тому +22

      Αν και Ολυμπιακός κλαίω..😂😂😂

    • @AbricsonK
      @AbricsonK 8 місяців тому +5

      My thought exactly

    • @yeorgios
      @yeorgios 8 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂

  • @spirostravlos3801
    @spirostravlos3801 8 місяців тому +285

    Yes-yes...Greeks living in Monaco, with offices in London with Panamanian flags and ships in all over the world.
    Money has no country.

    • @hhb_yiannis5470
      @hhb_yiannis5470 8 місяців тому +8

      Well...their nationality is Greek

    • @spolch9482
      @spolch9482 8 місяців тому +5

      The Greek merchant navy is the biggest in the world. Of course it's international.

    • @aarengraves9962
      @aarengraves9962 8 місяців тому +4

      with one exception. The Greek shipowners have formed their own guild/organization. Its a united body of rich-men with mutual interests and they keep getting richer.

    • @aarengraves9962
      @aarengraves9962 8 місяців тому +3

      and they control the largest merchant fleet on the planet.

    • @codelessunlimited7701
      @codelessunlimited7701 7 місяців тому +6

      I want their lifestyle, it sucks being in a single homebased. 😅

  • @christostentes3199
    @christostentes3199 8 місяців тому +255

    I cant see titles like "the american weapons industry getting rich selling war and death last 80 years" ...i wonder why?

    • @KlePhys
      @KlePhys 8 місяців тому +9

      Exactly

    • @CristinaGreece
      @CristinaGreece 8 місяців тому +1

      Hypocritical alas cart journalism...

    • @arip172
      @arip172 8 місяців тому +1

      well said

    • @David_Lloyd-Jones
      @David_Lloyd-Jones 25 днів тому +1

      So make the video and post it.
      Meself, I think the American weapons industry is probably competitive enough that nobody is getting any richer than they would making tractors or chewing gum.
      Many weapons are stunningly expensive, but this seems to me more a matter of incompetence and stupidity, never profitable ways of running a business, rather than any lack of openness and competition.

    • @andreasvictorious3991
      @andreasvictorious3991 День тому

      Every country buys weapons especially greece. What's your point?

  • @rowinrowinson8455
    @rowinrowinson8455 8 місяців тому +141

    Let's not talk about Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics that profit from war let's talk about obscure Greek ship owners that have zero influence in Washington

    • @leonfth
      @leonfth 8 місяців тому +8

      Exactly

    • @David_Lloyd-Jones
      @David_Lloyd-Jones 25 днів тому

      I used to work for John Brademas (D. Indiana), the first Greek-American elected to Congress, and incidentally a very bright and decent man. (After his defeat in the 1970s, he served well and decently as President of NYU.)
      I once, before the 1970 election, watched him work the Greek ship owners on the phone... 😆😇🤣
      I know of no untoward influence by any Greek ship owner -- but the fact that there is no American-flagged freight shipping industry is due entirely to the Jones Act, aka the Merchant Marine Act of 1920 -- which costs the American consumer untold hundreds of millions of dollars every year.
      This stupid piece of protectionism benefits a tiny number of American ship-owners, and basically extorts the populations of Hawaii and Alaska, and everybody else to a somewhat smaller degree.
      As for international shippers, who needs influence in Washington when you can move your ship to Panama with a paint brush?

  • @sotossotos7901
    @sotossotos7901 8 місяців тому +364

    The title is deceptive Greece has nothing to do with the shipowners. They are international businessmen and the ships are under foreign flags.

    • @MrGeor1983
      @MrGeor1983 8 місяців тому +33

      This is wrong. Ownership and management companies are based in Greece, although flags are foreign

    • @iwannisbalaouras1687
      @iwannisbalaouras1687 8 місяців тому

      The owhers are greeks. The most companies in usa like amazon, you think their government can control them? or the car industry of germany, you think their government can control them?

    • @zaxarispetixos8728
      @zaxarispetixos8728 8 місяців тому +22

      ​@@MrGeor1983Not is is not, they might have an office in greece because they started there but the main offices are in other countries.

    • @MrGeor1983
      @MrGeor1983 8 місяців тому

      @@zaxarispetixos8728 I ve been working in the shipping support industry for the last 6 years and I cooperate every day with the shipping companies !!! So I know better

    • @MrGeor1983
      @MrGeor1983 8 місяців тому

      Tankers that transported Russian petroleum products from Russia’s ports on the Black Sea directly to the ports of EU and G7 countries in violation of the embargo in October 2023:
      8/10
      HONESTY
      9416393
      50384
      Liberia
      RU NVS
      ATD: 2023-10-24 21:03
      ES ALG
      ALGECIRAS
      ATA: 2023-11-04 20:52
      Ship manager/Commercial manager SEA PIONEER SHIPPING CORP-LIB 7th Floor, Bacolitsas Building, 284, Kifisias Avenue, Chalandri, 152 32 Athens, Greece.
      Registered owner HONESTY MARINE INC Care of Sea Pioneer Shipping Corp, 7th Floor, Bacolitsas Building, 284, Kifisias Avenue, Chalandri, 152 32 Athens, Greece.
      04/10
      HONESTY
      9416393
      50384
      Liberia
      RU TUA
      TUAPSE
      ATD: 2023-09-27 16:10
      GR LAKONIKOS GULF
      ATA: 2023-10-06 06:25
      Ship manager/Commercial manager SEA PIONEER SHIPPING CORP-LIB 7th Floor, Bacolitsas Building, 284, Kifisias Avenue, Chalandri, 152 32 Athens, Greece.
      Registered owner HONESTY MARINE INC Care of Sea Pioneer Shipping Corp, 7th Floor, Bacolitsas Building, 284, Kifisias Avenue, Chalandri, 152 32 Athens, Greece.
      07/10
      VELOS DIAMANTIS
      9571038
      74902
      Marshall Is
      RU TUA
      TUAPSE
      ATD: 2023-10-03 17:00
      GR LAKONIKOS GULF
      ATA: 2023-10-08 15:13
      Ship manager/Commercial manager VELOS TANKERS LTD 2, Ioannou Gennadiou Street, 115 21 Athens, Greece.
      Registered owner MANTIS MARITIME LTD Care of Velos Tankers Ltd, 2, Ioannou Gennadiou Street, 115 21 Athens, Greece
      12/10
      AGIOS NIKOLAOS IV
      9464364
      37557
      Malta
      RU TUA
      TUAPSE
      ATD: 2023-10-09 12:17
      GR LAKONIKOS GULF
      ATA: 2023-10-13 07:08
      Ship manager/Commercial manager EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN MARITIME 69, Grigoriou Lampraki Street, Glyfada, 166 75 Athens, Greece.
      Registered owner FAIR WEATHER SHIPPING LTD Care of Eastern Mediterranean Maritime Ltd (EASTMED), 69, Grigoriou Lampraki Street, Glyfada, 166 75 Athens, Greece
      19/10
      SUNDORO
      9430181
      46851
      Malta
      RU TUA
      TUAPSE
      ATD: 2023-10-15 12:39
      GR LAKONIKOS GULF
      ATA: 2023-10-20 20:40
      Ship manager/Commercial manager MARINE TRUST LTD-MAI Vergoti Square, Glyfada, 166 75 Athens, Greece.
      Registered owner ROD SHIPPING LTD Care of Marine Trust Ltd, Vergoti Square, Glyfada, 166 75 Athens, Greece
      28/10
      CHEM HELEN
      9340116
      38396
      Liberia
      RU TUA
      TUAPSE
      ATD: 2023-10-24 08:35
      GR LAKONIKOS GULF
      ATA: 2023-10-29 19:40
      Ship manager/Commercial manager ROBIN ENTERPRISES SA Care of Hellenic Tankers Co Ltd, 3, Mouson Street, Kifisia, 145 63 Athens, Greece.
      Registered owner ROBIN ENTERPRISES SA Care of Hellenic Tankers Co Ltd, 3, Mouson Street, Kifisia, 145 63 Athens, Greece

  • @sars6224
    @sars6224 8 місяців тому +146

    Greek shipping "industry". A nepotistic system revolving around a family owning ships.The only system where you pay zero taxes , and also the only industry where you can purchase a ship with 70%-90% financed by a bank depending how much your family owns politicians. And if your ship does not make money no worries just abandon it for the banks to take over, the citizens will pay.
    In Italy their mafia owns the civil sector , in Albania the drugs and human trafficking , in Greece the mafia owns the shipping sector, football clubs and the political parties.
    As a Greek i feel offended when i hear about the "Greek shipping industry" , these families have nothing to do with Greece , they produce massive wealth for their families and own the useless political parties we have around in the Greek "democratic" system for at least the last 70 years.

    • @Catherine-e7f
      @Catherine-e7f 8 місяців тому +9

      correct!!!!!

    • @ΤΑΣΟΥΛΑΔΕΛΛΙΟΥ-ο7γ
      @ΤΑΣΟΥΛΑΔΕΛΛΙΟΥ-ο7γ 8 місяців тому +8

      looooooooser

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 8 місяців тому +10

      It isnt nepotistic, they are entrepreneurs who traditionally knew the seas very well and were captains who personally be on boats in the beginning many of them. Of course when the times changed they became businessmen and tradesmen.
      But they still know the sea trades very well.
      And by the way they give a very big amount of jobs in the country and as a field it is employing people with good salaries in contrast to for example tourism industry - hospitality which many times does pay the salaries that it should.

    • @Catherine-e7f
      @Catherine-e7f 8 місяців тому

      @@innosanto all these are not companies. They are mafia - families where make wholesale drugs around the world

    • @REd-ru5ce
      @REd-ru5ce 8 місяців тому +9

      @@innosanto Delulu. ''They give jobs''. Have you ever thought that these jobs would still exist cause someone, somehow would still occupy himself with the specific sector? Ofc they pay good salaries, they have to give motive to the people who know about the coco they carry. I noticed you didnt say much about how they don't pay taxes in Greece.
      I wont even comment on the ''they were captains who know the seas''. They were just rich or had the ''right'' connections. That's all you need in this shithole

  • @stavrosr9819
    @stavrosr9819 8 місяців тому +184

    They don't even pay taxes in Greece as shipping is exempt from taxation. Hope that those of you that have a normal job and get extorted by taxation, feel a bit better now reading this. Enjoy!

    • @iwannisbalaouras1687
      @iwannisbalaouras1687 8 місяців тому +5

      shipping industry is 7,9 % of our total gdp

    • @stavrosr9819
      @stavrosr9819 8 місяців тому

      @@iwannisbalaouras1687 And debt industry is 159% of your total gdp

    • @georgetsapekis
      @georgetsapekis 8 місяців тому +10

      @@iwannisbalaouras1687 Only the domestic part and a few loyal owners that choose to have the Greek flag on their vessels. If Greek shipowners where taxed in Greece by EU standards, the Greek Economy would be at the top 20.

    • @iwannisbalaouras1687
      @iwannisbalaouras1687 8 місяців тому +2

      @@georgetsapekis that's in every country! You think amazon pays taxes? Only in my small village i have 5 people working in the shipping industry and we are close to mountain olympus

    • @georgetsapekis
      @georgetsapekis 8 місяців тому +5

      @@iwannisbalaouras1687 I'm just contradicting your comment regarding the GDP percentage that accounts for shipping in Greece. You mentioned it as if it was significant, which it is relatively to our GDP, however is merely a fraction of the true economic scale of Greek shipping.

  • @ΠαναγιώτηςΚαπερναράκος
    @ΠαναγιώτηςΚαπερναράκος 8 місяців тому +103

    Να μεταφέρει και ο Μελισσανίδης κάνα πετρέλαιο να πάρουμε κάνα παίκτη

    • @Michael8989o
      @Michael8989o 8 місяців тому

      Καλά περίμενε

    • @ElDiablo123
      @ElDiablo123 8 місяців тому

      XAXAXAXAXAXAXA

    • @NMT_7543
      @NMT_7543 8 місяців тому

      Αν δεν παρουμε παικτες αυτο το καλοκαιρι, ουτε στα ονειρα μας δεν θα δουμε το προταθλημα

    • @yvonneshanson1525
      @yvonneshanson1525 8 місяців тому +3

      Μετέφερε ξυλολιο κ έφαγε 57

  • @dggmn2109
    @dggmn2109 8 місяців тому +28

    Can you also please make a video about how western companies make money in the area occupied by Turkey in Cyprus

  • @VasVordokas
    @VasVordokas 9 місяців тому +99

    Correction, getting rich off Western sanctions. This is how capitalism works, guys….cmon. We (Greeks) dominate this market. Past present future. PERIOD 🇬🇷📈⚓️

    • @TheGreekGodOfWallStreet
      @TheGreekGodOfWallStreet 9 місяців тому +5

      Amen 🇺🇸

    • @EdEd1119
      @EdEd1119 9 місяців тому +3

      Yess it’s True greeks controll the Olive Oil 😂but never Shipping Oil soo be real!

    • @cerebralrhetoric1013
      @cerebralrhetoric1013 9 місяців тому +13

      ​@@EdEd1119 No we dominate shipping, not oil. By the way, who on earth taught you when and when not to use uppercase letters? Your grammar is atrocious.

    • @johnathan99
      @johnathan99 8 місяців тому +10

      How can you be proud for something like that . Those guys made billions because of this war while you and i had and still have to pay 70% more for gas and food.

    • @EdEd1119
      @EdEd1119 8 місяців тому +3

      @@cerebralrhetoric1013 sorry for my English 😂,but we are give in argument about for shipping control not for English teacher😂✌🏻

  • @sotirismp2883
    @sotirismp2883 8 місяців тому +61

    what number of cement do you wear?

    • @pakko7416
      @pakko7416 8 місяців тому +4

      Nonsense, the ship owners have nothing to do with such practices, as with Aristotle Onasis there was not a spec of shady business, it was all above board. Same with Stavros Niarchos and all the other major ship owners! You've been watching too much the Godfather movies!

    • @giannislainas5187
      @giannislainas5187 8 місяців тому +14

      @@pakko7416 Dude,have you heard about Noor1? This isnt ancient history like you talking about Onasis.

    • @georgetsapekis
      @georgetsapekis 8 місяців тому

      @@giannislainas5187 Marinakis is one dude, the rest don't have the same business endeavours.

    • @Tomasonbjj
      @Tomasonbjj 8 місяців тому

      ​@@pakko7416man search about Noor 1... Even the judges left the country to survive 🤣

    • @HarisonThes
      @HarisonThes 5 місяців тому

      What is this suppose to mean?

  • @premiumpropertiesdeleste
    @premiumpropertiesdeleste 8 місяців тому +54

    WRONG ANÁLISIS!
    First, Shipping company will get payed as a transporter to move goods from point A to B...the ship owners are NOT TRADERS of oil but transportation contractors.
    Second, most of the "Greek" fleet isn't either registered in Greece neither operates from Greece.
    Most of Greek owners have their office in London.
    Braking sessions! LOOK IN TURKEY!!!

    • @georgetsapekis
      @georgetsapekis 8 місяців тому +2

      Very accurate. Furthermore, most of the charterers that employ those vessel, and subsequently own the cargo, are American companies, like Exxon and Shell.

  • @georgeiv6925
    @georgeiv6925 9 місяців тому +99

    Greek shipowners made fortunes from breaking blockades . The first one was the one in Napoleonic wars and the wealth that accumulated actually helped the then enslaved Greeks to fight for their freedom for the ottoman empire back in 19th century. Now , the fact that some of the greek shipowners move or moved russian or iranian or venezuelan etc greek owned tankers are 25% of total global dwt and some of it used to carry russian oil since russia didnt have a taker fleet of its own and if they dont move it then someone else will take their contracts (now shadow fleets are doing the job). I think that the majority of them dont carry russian oil that is sold more than the legal rate to begin with. Its just business and if theres a need to move oil from one port to another greek shipowners will be there to do the job. As for tax benefits etc yeah as a greek i can tell you that greek shipowners dont pay 40 to 44 % of their annual income like other people do but i dont think that other great conglomerates or wealthy entrepreneurs pay their fair share of taxes to begin with. I dont think we invented offshore tax heavens in the first place.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 8 місяців тому +2

      It was also during Russian Empire that Greeks assisted trade between Russia and Mediterranean but even before that. What rhey are doing by promoting trade is known by states and is wanted and used, the states are customers since global and knternational supply chains are important for economies and industry even when conflict and more so then. And hence now it is important to trade the oil foe energy tomeconomies and western customers are bying oil even during fight to promote expnomy and industry

  • @ΒασίληςΚ-ν7λ
    @ΒασίληςΚ-ν7λ 8 місяців тому +30

    Ok the Greeks are carrying it but who is buying russian oil? For whom they are carrying it for?

    • @alexrenn2479
      @alexrenn2479 8 місяців тому

      Like the report says, they're not doing anything illegal. This transport of oil benefits Europe.

    • @HarisonThes
      @HarisonThes 5 місяців тому

      India, China

    • @ΒασίληςΚ-ν7λ
      @ΒασίληςΚ-ν7λ 5 місяців тому +2

      @@HarisonThes india and China are buying right from the source like they always did. Others (like E.U. members) who cannot buy directly are choosing new, indirect ways in order to get the same product that they used to, in a higher price.

  • @alexandercoro5309
    @alexandercoro5309 8 місяців тому +65

    Respect Greeks

  • @Kevinjimtheone
    @Kevinjimtheone 8 місяців тому +57

    This is quite misleading, tbh. This has nothing to do with Greece. These are independent businesses, usually family owned, and also usually basically exempt from taxation in Greece.
    Not only that, some of them are criminals (see Marinakis).
    Finally, it makes sense they would ship the 2nd most Russian oil if they have a top-3 shipping fleet in the world.

    • @Louie_VII
      @Louie_VII 8 місяців тому +3

      You’re definitely an AEK or PAO fan to say that BS about Marinaki. Stay salty buddy!!!

    • @georgetsapekis
      @georgetsapekis 8 місяців тому +1

      Εσένα αυτό σε μάρανε;

    • @Louie_VII
      @Louie_VII 8 місяців тому

      @@georgetsapekis ποιον;

    • @Kevinjimtheone
      @Kevinjimtheone 8 місяців тому

      @@Louie_VII I’m actually not a fan of any football team. I do try to support any of them when they play in a European tournament, though.

    • @Louie_VII
      @Louie_VII 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Kevinjimtheone so why do you say he’s a criminal? Because only the fans of those teams are persecuting somebody that wasn’t proven guilty!

  • @georgetsapekis
    @georgetsapekis 8 місяців тому +7

    Accurate as this observations is, it has failed to address the following: Firstly, that the owners resulting in this practice are a niche among a niche, meaning that the majority of the 600+ Greek owned, family ran businesses are not involved in such schemes. Lastly, Greek owners are not the only ones doing business with Russia, or Iran. So, the article is indeed informative, however lacks additional information and does not paint a clear picture of the il carrying industry.

  • @aarengraves9962
    @aarengraves9962 2 місяці тому +4

    if the Greek shipowners decided to stop their ships the entire world would starve. The have a monopoly on this industry.
    Of course this will never happen, they are part of a greater mechanism that sustains the western trade and themselves.

  • @StefAdr
    @StefAdr 8 місяців тому +10

    Billionaires "Getting Rich" 😂
    They were poor billionaires before this title 😂

  • @topias12
    @topias12 8 місяців тому +6

    so Thessaloniki will get two new concrete blocks at the harbor

  • @MaxWell-pp9zs
    @MaxWell-pp9zs 8 місяців тому +92

    Their venture in sports and media shows their diversified wealth beyond shipping. I shifted to solid research and diversification over guru advice, and made 1.3M in returns within the past 19 months. Applying certain principles works at any scale

    • @GoryNych-ru3op
      @GoryNych-ru3op 8 місяців тому

      Yes, money then influence and power, that's their game. you spoke about returns. how can you tell if it's a result of research or luck. luck is downplayed in investing but very key.

    • @MaxWell-pp9zs
      @MaxWell-pp9zs 8 місяців тому

      when its consistent, its not considered luck. research was the challenge until it led to Emily Ava Milligan, a top fund manager, her strategy made 320k into this and counting.

    • @GoryNych-ru3op
      @GoryNych-ru3op 8 місяців тому

      I pasted her name into my browser, her page popped right up. I quickly realized how popular her sessions were. Your example is rare, I wish I had it to reference earlier. Thanks

    • @questmarq7901
      @questmarq7901 8 місяців тому +1

      αυτο το αρχη-ηδη κανει διαφημηση

    • @lamondaforestry
      @lamondaforestry 8 місяців тому

      It's for money laundering schemes you genius

  • @garmy441
    @garmy441 8 місяців тому +14

    ...and who buys the oil carried by their ships?

    • @stamy74
      @stamy74 8 місяців тому +3

      Exactly.....

  • @matrasimca6192
    @matrasimca6192 8 місяців тому +6

    It's called opportunity and you either grab it or leave it to others

  • @mickeymouse1697
    @mickeymouse1697 8 місяців тому +13

    I STAND WITH RUSSIA , OIL IS OIL .

    • @leonfth
      @leonfth 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes it is

  • @brazilstreets7955
    @brazilstreets7955 8 місяців тому +15

    Athenai navy lives strong

  • @leosam7097
    @leosam7097 8 місяців тому +2

    What you can't / won't say is tha there is no embarco, sanctions, or trading "limitation" on the globe that was not violated by them since mid 1700s, or that they got 98% of all liberty ships ever produced and intended to replace the Greek state merchand fleet losses in battle of atlantic for nothing... (because of Greek kings corruption and allies need of a global merchant fleet)

  • @VinayWebstar
    @VinayWebstar 9 місяців тому +16

    Here I'm an very big fan of Stelios Haji onnou and Evangelous marinakis, and their fleet of LNG tankers. Greece can indeed be an shining example for all ship owning countries of the World, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, Singapore and Hong Kong to say the very least

  • @jimmyking92
    @jimmyking92 8 місяців тому +1

    Oil is necessary for our societies and economy to function. Somebody wants to buy and somebody needs to sell it. We Greeks are there to move it. We have been doing marine trading for millennia and will continue to do so, we own that game.

  • @baroodi100
    @baroodi100 9 місяців тому +22

    Good for them 😊 no one talks about American billionaires making money off th war

  • @ioakeimtheodoridis8280
    @ioakeimtheodoridis8280 8 місяців тому +19

    i thought forbes was something serious. you cant possibly not know the fact that 80% and more of the fleet of the greek shipowners is flagged to a foreing nation, mostly for tax benefit reason, meaning greece gains nothing from this huge power. they have the power as shipowners, not greece.

    • @alexrenn2479
      @alexrenn2479 8 місяців тому +2

      The SNFCC was built by a Greek shipowner's foundation.

    • @ioakeimtheodoridis8280
      @ioakeimtheodoridis8280 8 місяців тому

      ​@@alexrenn2479so what?

    • @alexrenn2479
      @alexrenn2479 8 місяців тому +1

      @@ioakeimtheodoridis8280 So the shipowners provide for the nation.

    • @ioakeimtheodoridis8280
      @ioakeimtheodoridis8280 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@alexrenn2479 SNFCC stands for Stavros Niarchos Foundation Cultural Center. There also is the Aristotle Onassis Cultural Foundation in Athens. These are only 2 shipowners (both dead obviously, their families are running the business now). These two own maybe 200 ships combined. Greek shipowners own 5,000 ships. When we say 80% of the fleet, that is what we mean. Only a small percentage of the greek owned ships are registered in the greek flag, meaning, nothing comes back to Greece. You say they provide, but you only see a small example and not the whole picture.

    • @annavsmith1
      @annavsmith1 6 місяців тому +1

      0ligarchs will 0ligarch..

  • @GrumpyAunt
    @GrumpyAunt 8 місяців тому +3

    In Greece, we don't have free journalism, so such reporting is impossible. The comments joking about cement shoes are not joking. Thank you for doing this, although nobody touches these people.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 8 місяців тому +1

      Greek shipowners are fine, the shipping companies trade in global supply chain, the west is buying indirectly and this activities help global prices or thr prices of energy, commodities ans products would be even higher.

  • @matrasimca6192
    @matrasimca6192 8 місяців тому +6

    When the Persians envaded Greece, there was an Oracle given at Delphi that Athens will be saved by Wooden Walls. By Wooden Walls they meant ships. Ever since the Greeks never forgoten this Oracle!!!

  • @CollectAnything2025
    @CollectAnything2025 8 місяців тому +19

    Hypocricy at its best.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 8 місяців тому +2

      The video yes

    • @CollectAnything2025
      @CollectAnything2025 8 місяців тому +4

      @innosanto yes, the video. Nobody saying about the billions that the war industry makes in USA.

  • @Ioan.Anton-r1h1b
    @Ioan.Anton-r1h1b 8 місяців тому +3

    Unfortunately for the Greek people have to pay the highest price on oil in Europe.

  • @cgsather3309
    @cgsather3309 8 місяців тому +4

    They sound like smart business people to me. If they were dumb, they wouldn’t have lasted as long.

  • @Diog3nes
    @Diog3nes 8 місяців тому +9

    That's nothing new, Greece is for many decades now no3 in units and no1 in cargo capacity...

  • @mithridil
    @mithridil 8 місяців тому +4

    Since this has to do with Greek billionaires I think the video should also have greek subs for non english speakers. Just saying...

  • @costachristoo
    @costachristoo 8 місяців тому +3

    Is this a kind o propaganda, I don't get it, the Greek tankers are just couriers, you may ask who's asking them to bring the oil , and where is constribiuted

  • @nickvoutos9060
    @nickvoutos9060 9 місяців тому +18

    Title is wrong. Video says that Greek shipowners benefit from the situation and not breaking any laws/sanctions

    • @nickvoutos9060
      @nickvoutos9060 9 місяців тому +1

      In the end of the video. The journalist says that the shadow Russian fleet is taking business from visible GR fleet

    • @MrGeor1983
      @MrGeor1983 8 місяців тому

      No they have broken the law in the past years. This is the reason they received letters from US to stop doing that

    • @MrGeor1983
      @MrGeor1983 8 місяців тому

      @@nickvoutos9060 Greeks are selling their older fleet to Russians

  • @javierjalisco17
    @javierjalisco17 29 днів тому

    Greece and Russia are both Eastern Orthodox and have always been friendly and close. During the Greek financial crisis in 2008 Russia offered Greece a bailout package because the EU bailout had such bad terms and crushing austerity measures. Greece ulmitaly did boy take Russia offer prob to do western political pressure but it was still a friendly gesture when no one else was willing to help. Greece ending up losing a lot of ports and airports because of this to help pay off debts which is why China now owns its first Mediterranean port in Perea, Greece.

  • @vaioskoutis7998
    @vaioskoutis7998 8 місяців тому +3

    A yes goood good job at they do perfect journalism. But Forbes doesn’t want to talk about the military industrial complex and how they are profiting from Isreal and Ukraine making multi millions no no no and this doesn’t even have to do with Greece 👎 very bad job Forbes

  • @georgelaskaratos4366
    @georgelaskaratos4366 8 місяців тому +10

    ΕΜΠ1 στο ξανθό...

    • @Pap294-j4l
      @Pap294-j4l 8 місяців тому +2

      Μερακλής!

  • @gstaron7481
    @gstaron7481 8 місяців тому +3

    Such an interesting topic with a lot of information for the general public but it was very difficult to go through the video due to all the "a", "aa", and "am" before and after almost every sentence.

    • @sen_ex
      @sen_ex 8 місяців тому +1

      He has no idea why he’s talking about, hence the “um”s and all the other sounds. Typical modern day journalist.

  • @linobenetti6578
    @linobenetti6578 8 місяців тому +9

    this is a very misleading reportage ... greek born owners or shareholders most of them permanent residents in london or n york or elsewhere , english college educated and citizens of the world well before england, great britain , UK and any other inventive appelation as a country name might ensue henceforth .
    all of the above comments cause its not difficult at all to read through the lines ...
    ciao a tutti
    glory to Poseidon
    kalimera to the world from Ithaca ( not NY)

  • @Mc-attac
    @Mc-attac 8 місяців тому +4

    Im sure these ship owners are laughing over this story. Money makes the world go around

  • @ShapingFaces
    @ShapingFaces 2 дні тому

    When Germans industrialised, manufactured and grew with cheap energy from Russia for the last 40 years while Greece paid 4 times more, that was ok and could never compete, that was ok.

  • @rv9785
    @rv9785 7 місяців тому +2

    Also, Do not forget SHELL, Microsoft, Thyssen, VW, Daimler-Chrysler, MAN and Siemens and many many more BIG NAMES.
    Not some Greek Carriers of russian oil.

  • @alexrenn2479
    @alexrenn2479 8 місяців тому +1

    The report outlines that they're not doing anything illegal and in fact are providing a valuable commodity to the West. The title makes it seem otherwise though, very loaded and can even be deemed racist because they're focussing on the ethnicity of one group dominant in shipping.

  • @aurelmarinov8650
    @aurelmarinov8650 9 місяців тому +22

    Καλα τσιμεντα!

  • @PAPASTHEGREAT
    @PAPASTHEGREAT 8 місяців тому +4

    Marinakis is the Number One Drug Shipping Dealer of the World, Very powerful and Dangerous person

  • @pandemonium7120
    @pandemonium7120 8 місяців тому +1

    American purchases of laundered Russian oil worth at least $180

  • @prabakaran-uq3op
    @prabakaran-uq3op 8 місяців тому +8

    What's wrong with that, they are just doing business. Other European countries might be fools to not use cheap high-quality energy which they can get from the nearest Russian source.

  • @akisdrosi2011
    @akisdrosi2011 20 днів тому +1

    How about a video on "Meet the American billionaires who got rich from the Gulf war, the collapse of Yugoslavia, the invasions in Afghanistan and Iraq, the collapse of Libya, the war in Ukraine and so many Democratic invasions planned and executed so that some few in the US can get richer?". That'd be an interesting documentary Forbes 😅😂

  • @ΕλένηΚαραμιχάλη-σ6γ
    @ΕλένηΚαραμιχάλη-σ6γ 8 місяців тому

    In every crisis there is opportunity .

  • @vasilispants8241
    @vasilispants8241 8 місяців тому +1

    Title is wrong: Greeks used to buy cheap Russian natural gas via pipeline, but now Greek shipping companies carry expensive LNG from the US. Same for oil. Of course these Greek companies have their offices and get taxed in foreign countries, have foreign flags and even most people working on the ships are not Greek. Only the owners are Greek...

  • @johnpapadopoulos9057
    @johnpapadopoulos9057 5 місяців тому +1

    USI! USI! United States of
    Israel. We will fight the wars
    for you. Long live Abrahamism 4:23 4:27

  • @pandemonium7120
    @pandemonium7120 8 місяців тому +1

    Bulgaria to continue exporting fuels from Russian oil to Ukraine

  • @iliassokolis
    @iliassokolis 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for this publicity! P.T Barnum once said: There is no such thing as bad publicity!

  • @ΓιαννηςΠαπαδημητριου-ο5τ

    My man you are going to be one of the lucky ones you get to choose the number of cement you learn to swim with

  • @pandemonium7120
    @pandemonium7120 8 місяців тому +1

    Russian oil getting into UK via refinery loophole, reports claim - BBC

  • @matthaiosvlachos3526
    @matthaiosvlachos3526 8 місяців тому +1

    Next video please : How us companies are getting rich by occupation and in Palestine

  • @pandemonium7120
    @pandemonium7120 8 місяців тому +1

    EU 'still buying Russian oil products' as Turkey becomes re-export hub.... May 15, 2024

  • @whatsup-zh6qv
    @whatsup-zh6qv 8 місяців тому +11

    When they found 3 tons of heroin in his ship: no problem
    Transferring essential oil: oh no the monster

    • @georgenic64
      @georgenic64 8 місяців тому

      on his ship*

    • @jacknicolssen7492
      @jacknicolssen7492 8 місяців тому +1

      Guess which world power was in Afghanistan recently (leading opium producer country)

  • @tsatsanisgreg
    @tsatsanisgreg 8 місяців тому

    They don’t just own the ships, but also the media companies and the electric companies.
    P.S. I wear 45 size shoe be it sportswear, casual or cement.

  • @whatsup-zh6qv
    @whatsup-zh6qv 8 місяців тому +15

    Good for Greece!

  • @ioannisvezakiadis7217
    @ioannisvezakiadis7217 2 місяці тому

    Very nice!!

  • @GerasimosAgaliotis
    @GerasimosAgaliotis 8 місяців тому +1

    what size of shoes do you wear my guy ? asking for a friend

  • @Reynold-Kelly
    @Reynold-Kelly 9 місяців тому +5

    I'm favoured $130k every 4 weeks! I now have a good house and can afford anything and also support my family

    • @Reynold-Kelly
      @Reynold-Kelly 9 місяців тому +1

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    • @Reynold-Kelly
      @Reynold-Kelly 9 місяців тому

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      @MarcusSausi709 9 місяців тому

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      @Devocion-Souza 9 місяців тому

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    • @WebsterVissel
      @WebsterVissel 9 місяців тому

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  • @littlereptilian7580
    @littlereptilian7580 8 місяців тому +1

    How do you thought where oil comes from? The sky?

  • @LurchPOV
    @LurchPOV 9 місяців тому +3

    This little Forbes podcast setup is awesome. Thank you for catering to millennials.

  • @MalGent
    @MalGent 9 місяців тому +3

    I'm interested to see caribbean million/billionaires

  • @sailor2507
    @sailor2507 8 місяців тому

    I read a lot of nonsense here! Most countries have the tonnage tax system. Tonnage tax in Germany, Norway, UK, France, Netherlands is LOWER than the greek tonnage tax, plus, greek flagged vessels require at least 5 Greek crew members while these other flags do not! There are several american companies that have their shipping operations in Greece because that's where the expertise is (and lower salaries, rents, etc), even if the UK may have lower tonnage tax!

  • @nicolaspsomiadis1552
    @nicolaspsomiadis1552 20 днів тому

    Meet The Greek Shipping Billionaires Getting Rich Off Russian Oil: this is definitely a title that does not describe what the research has shown. The shipping industry is strong in Greece because of historical, constitutional and decision-making reasons that this title completely omits. You could have told a better story, Forbes.

  • @antdava8353
    @antdava8353 8 місяців тому +1

    Wep, and US companies sell electronic parts to RUSSIAN COMBAT DRONES.
    Don't see anybody talking about that.

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 8 місяців тому +1

    Μαρινάκης στο thumbnail 😂

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto 8 місяців тому

    They were rich much before this.

  • @HighPowerOptionsTrades
    @HighPowerOptionsTrades 9 місяців тому +4

    Great content 💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎

  • @no_one514
    @no_one514 2 місяці тому

    6:24pm 12-3-24 TUE

  • @korgmangeek
    @korgmangeek 8 місяців тому

    15:20 "[Remark on war on Ukraine] bad for humanity, good for business".
    Oh, the humanity.

  • @asoulno.136
    @asoulno.136 16 днів тому

    If it’s not illegal to move Russian oil as long as certain preconditions such as the price cap are met then what’s your problem? What’s the point of the story or the video. It’s a non story. Am sure if these people were doing anything illegal against western interests, the whole western system would have fallen on them . All it shows is that the embargo is useless. Turkey for example, does not apply any sanctions on Russia. The Greeks are not that stupid to let others into a business they dominate for decades, through hard work and the money they invest in their companies.

  • @GeorgeMasterclass
    @GeorgeMasterclass 8 місяців тому +3

    Μεγα το της θαλασσης κρατος

  • @Rousseau4469
    @Rousseau4469 17 днів тому

    Noone speaks in the house of the hanged.

  • @renemartin5729
    @renemartin5729 9 місяців тому +4

    Correction, Meet The Greek Shipping Billionaires Getting Rich Off Sanctions.

  • @Arkoudeides.
    @Arkoudeides. 8 місяців тому +1

    Glory to Russia 🇷🇺 Glory to Greece 🇬🇷 ❤❤❤

    • @stavrospapageorgiou3041
      @stavrospapageorgiou3041 8 місяців тому +1

      όχι άλλο κάρβουνο

    • @Arkoudeides.
      @Arkoudeides. 8 місяців тому +1

      @@stavrospapageorgiou3041 All Hail Saint Vladimir Poutin

    • @stavrospapageorgiou3041
      @stavrospapageorgiou3041 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Arkoudeides. ΝΑ ΠΑΝΕ ΣΤΟ ΔΙΑΟΛΟ ΟΛΟΙ

    • @Arkoudeides.
      @Arkoudeides. 8 місяців тому

      @@stavrospapageorgiou3041 Ορθοδοξία ή Θάνατος. Ελλάς Ρωσία Σερβία 💕 💞 ♥️

  • @eustathiamats8389
    @eustathiamats8389 10 днів тому

    Did EU countries buy.any of these Russian sanctioned products?

  • @oathkeepersapphirelands
    @oathkeepersapphirelands 20 днів тому

    Billionaires? Doubt that

  • @nickthegreek693
    @nickthegreek693 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for information provided!!!

  • @AhmedMohammed-mg9eb
    @AhmedMohammed-mg9eb 8 місяців тому +1

    What's wrong with Russian oil

  • @Nick33s88
    @Nick33s88 8 місяців тому +3

    Greece is suffering because of political instability and need the Russian oil for survival

  • @stewiegiligan
    @stewiegiligan 8 місяців тому +6

    Forbes soon you will meet the Noor1 witnesses.

  • @tougeattack123
    @tougeattack123 8 місяців тому +1

    international level gangsters

    • @stamy74
      @stamy74 8 місяців тому

      This applies to US Government to be honest. They use proxies to start wars and protect their interests.

  • @cosmovanquish6523
    @cosmovanquish6523 8 місяців тому

    All with America's blessing...

  • @scottyflintstone
    @scottyflintstone 8 місяців тому

    See Doomberg for some real insight into the failure of the Russian Oil restriction

  • @sonap8620
    @sonap8620 8 місяців тому +1

    what size cement you wear

  • @MichaelKay-lp3hn
    @MichaelKay-lp3hn 20 днів тому

    What does Zeus have to say about this?

  • @22Too
    @22Too 5 місяців тому

    No one with the squeaky, little voice of a child should work in audio/video journalism. SMH.

  • @anonymos59
    @anonymos59 8 місяців тому +1

    Forbes is more like a lifestyle media than a financial one.
    Inaccurate figures and sketchy analysis.

  • @ivans2618
    @ivans2618 8 місяців тому +2

    Sanctions should be applied immediately

    • @GiambattistaRossi
      @GiambattistaRossi 8 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂on us assets

    • @bigmungus4864
      @bigmungus4864 8 місяців тому

      Why ?

    • @anthonylourakis8289
      @anthonylourakis8289 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, and the global economy will collapse in 2 seconds. Greek shipowners control a very, very large share of international shipping

  • @skanthaadsigns
    @skanthaadsigns 9 місяців тому +4

    Great business model when one does not kow-tow to one side & serves all.