Hello, I encounter audio problems with this capture card, it can't capture audio, it records it but there are only poping and cracking. Do you know something?
@@thedornado3931 actually you can get the game audio to capture no problem and dont need banana. Found that fix somewhere... Unfortunatley supposed fixes and videos everywhere that dont actually help you accomplish said task. Ive done everything here and still doesnt work. So what now? buy more hdmi cables and test all that. contact elgato technical support. Buy a bunch more crap and keep troubleshooting on your own. watch and read everyones videos that explain the same basic things while you've done it all and magically dont get those results.
One thing to add to this guide if you're using the Cloning method. At 4:51 in this video, if you find the "Video Input" readout is not showing 1440p144 (eg, 1440p120). Go back to your graphics driver settings or Windows settings where you applied the cloning, remove the cloning by going back to the default dual monitor mode (eg Extended). Now open your graphics driver settings and go to where you set the resolution and refresh rate of each device (this is "Change resolution" on the left for Nvidia settings) click on the Elgato 1440p device and set the refresh rate to 144hz and apply. Now re-apply the cloning
When I follow these steps, there are no 144hz selections for the 4K60 Pro capture card... only 60 and 120hz... just by some luck I had another HDMI 2.0 cable laying around so I tried it and that was the issue... Cable that came with Elgato 4K60 Pro does NOT support 144hz for whatever reason...
Hey, man you have probably answered this a lot but i get a lot of screen tearing when recording or streaming on my streaming PC with the duplicating, i even set it to 120hz but it still doesn't seem to fix it unless i do fullscreen borderless on games which to my knowledge all that does is enables Vsync but i already had vsync on. At this point idk if it's a faulty card or if i'm doing something wrong, thanks if you reply BTW.
@@ChristopherLjunggren cloning my monitor, i even bought the hdmi cords he talked about in the video. my pc specs are very good for a streaming pc as well
@@Changasx I see, recommended is amd ryzen 7 (or better). This might be the issue. :( just to clearify, are you experiencing tearing on stream or on game pc?
one thing to mention as well is if you have a 360hz 2k 1440p monitor and you want to record with mk2 you can go to 144hz only. Also, make sure when you clone to go under Nvidia Control Panel > Set up multiple displays > right click on the cloned icon and SETUP YOUR MAIN SCREEN AS THE CLONE SOURCE. I"VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT BUT NOBODY MENTIONED ANYTHING!!!!
hi, i have the algato 4k60 pro mk2 but it show me only 144hz on my gaming monitor - i have a 165mhz monitor 2k. how can i put the 165mhz on my gaming pc? i have a streaming pc too.
I have 2 monitors for my gaming pc.. When I connect it the passthrough way for the 4k60 mk2, its almost like the elgato clones itself to my monitor on its own, because instead of seeing both of my monitors and then the elgato I only se 1 monitor then the elgato. Dont understand that at all.. What am I doing wrong?
@@EposVox Thanks. I watched your recent video about that DP to HDMI splitter, would love to test it but it's out of stock right now. I'm almost buying an HDMI 2.0 monitor to ditch cloning, i'm not sure if the upgrade is worth 400 bucks tho
This didn't work for me, until I disabled G-sync, and enabled Nvidia Fast Sync instead. I would recommend that to anyone reading this and tearing their hair out over it. I believe setting your monitor to 120hz also helps, as 144hz is not divisible by 60 - which is actually the max hz of the card, despite what Elgato and this video would have me believe. Am I wrong on that? For that reason, I kind of wish I bought a 1080p 240hz monitor instead, as that IS divisible by 60.
EposVox do you know why fast sync is and gsync isn't? Couldnt quite puzzle that out. And is there currently a card that can handle the 1440p 144hz? Or does that throw most of them off? I should mention that it was overall a good video, it helped me out. I just found that tweet from elgato saying "1440p 144hz" a bit misleading, as it led me to get the 4k60pro
Fast Sync is supported, as it's just a better way of handling VSync. GSync required DisplayPort and interacting directly with the monitor itself with special hardware (part of why GSync monitors are so much more expensive) - and just generally capture cards are designed for static refresh rates, not variable refresh rate. Variable Refresh is still a very new tech and there's no real reason for it outside of game systems so I wouldn't expect to see capture hardware support it much in general, maybe when HDMI 2.1 takes over, but that's a long way and $$ away
Well goddamn, I just noticed terrible tearing in my recording using the Live Gamer 4k. Considering it's pretty similar to 4k60 I came here for answers and this comment was posted just 20h ago. It works without tearing now, thank you! :D
Yeh I had to do the same here, my 144hz 1440p was stuck on 1440p60 in capture utility. However, I didn’t need to disable gsync but I did had to change to 120hz for it work. Tho it still worked with Gsync enable, I followed ur tip still disabled it n enable fast.
I'm getting very slight screen tear still. I followed through with the instructions of the video and I looked back in my recording and I can notice it slightly. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong here D:
Thank you for the vid, but have a question. YOu have said to set the input edid mode to internal but on video is Display. what difference does it make?
Hello, I have a question I play in a 3840× 1600 144 Hz resolution, this acquisition card can it wait for 144 Hz on this resolution in streaming at the same time? thank you
For the first method, it works. But what if I want to plug my PS4 Pro into the Elgato HDMI In? Now I have to take out the HDMI 2.0 cable running from my Game GPU. Then how do I see the game on the game monitor (ie, the 1440p monitor)
One question, in the past, clonning and using a capture card would show tearing unless using vsync, and windows only send a vsync signal on the primary display, how do you bypass this?
can i just run hdmi 2.1 from gaming pc to elgato and display port from streaming pc to monitor on streaming pc and clone gaming monitor with elgato . or is that a dumb question
Just upgraded my monitor to a 1440p and 240hz, my old monitor was a 1440p and 144hz which I had mirrored to the 4k60 pro. Question is will I have any issues mirroring this time because my monitor is now running 240hz. Will the card still read 1440p 144hz and my main still be at 1440p 240hz without any issues ? Thanks
I have a 343CQR (ultrawide + HDR + Freesync) Is there a way to keep HDR and Freesync on my monitor, while capturing it? EIther via passthrough or cloning? I think clones and passthrough strip off freesync and/or HDR? I'm new to this dual setup and trying to figure out a way to have everything work. Actually using NDI which ain't optimal IMO
hi. i have a problem when i set the EDID to ether internal or default settings on 1080p144hz i get these green boxes around the gameplay i googled the problem but only found a poste that said that the pci slot in the stream pc has to be 2x4 and i think i have 2x1 is that the reason its wired my friend said that it works fine for him on the same pci stream pc
If I don't want to stream and just not have 2 pc and so on but just one pc and do vods should I get this or just use OBS and that's it? Relive is pretty glitchy... not working usually doesn't record audio.. i would have a 5600x cpu and a good GPU or medium low, I am just wondering if it's worth buying that elgato too or just do it by OBS and nothing else. It's maybe not worth to buy an elgato and do this single pc config right?...
@@EposVox hey epos! Thanks for the video it really helps! But i have a question i try to setup in 1080p120hz it doesnt apply in 4k capture software and then i put 1440p instead and 120hz appear otherwise in 1080p it only set it to 60hz in 4k capture card software
I'm going to try this but do you think there will be any issues if the gaming pc has an ultrawide monitor? I know there will be black bars on the videos but I'll fill it out.
I'm really new to PC and I want to record gameplay with the Elgato 4K. I only have a one monitor PC set up. If my question is answered within the video, I completely missed it or don't understand so I'm sorry. Can I use the Elgato 4k with a one monitor set up PC or do I need to get a second monitor to use it
So how would this work when working in digital audio workstations? As for gaming, the sound comes via HDMI, but when you're in a DAW you use ASIO, which isn't directly played back through windows MME but straight to your (external) sound card. How would you capture sound without the hassle of adding hardware (e.g. mixer)?
It can't do Display if you're cloning because you're not running the HDMI out to your display for it to grab EDID from. In general you want it to match your display settings, which is why you do choose Display for passthrough.
thoughts on using a HDMI 2.0 to Display Port 1.4 Adapter in the HDMI out on the capture card to gaming monitor display port? Cloning has some very strange behaviour with games in Fullscreen.
Nope, the conversion is one way. DP OUT to HDMI OUT. I've tested it, it doesn't work the other way. The converters and power draws inside are different.
Hello eposvox do u have any idea can I clone my new monitor 1440p 180hz to my streaming pc with avermedia 4k capture card.. really want to keep refresh rate on 180hz
It's just a capture card, so it'd be up to your CPU to handle the encoding. I've not really messed with it, high enough bitrate H264 is generally good enough for 99% of uses
Yeah I've played with some cap cards and they freak out when pushing to much data (50-80MB/s or more) or don't like it when forcing a codec like Lags or MagicYUV even with a 10 core Xeon and an SSD array. I'm still looking at the 4K60 card from Magwell but it's $800 lol
Hey vox, can you tell me one thing, do you put your elgato 4k60fps into your gaming pc, or the streaming pc? Having difficulty while using 2 monitors on my gaming and a single monitor on my streaming. Also since your streaming pc is encoding to twitch I'm not understanding if you need a nice gpu or if the cpu is best? I can use a 1080ti in the streaming or a cheap 1gb ddr3 gpu if need
I have a dual pc setup using the elgato 4k60fps card.... The only issues with duplicating your gaming monitor to your capture card is some games every time you tab out of full screen to say look at your twitch chat, my computer screen flashes a few times while it re finds and duplicates my desktop now. It's so annoying having to wait like 10 seconds for this and the sane once I go back into my full screen game.... Does this happen to you on Some games and is there a diffrent way to capture video versus duplicating monitors
Quick question my streaming/recording pc has a r9 fury nano which according to amd doesn't support 4k60 fps recording, if I upgrade to a 4k60 pro will i be able to use my cpu which is a ryzen 5 1600 to capture 4k 60fps content from my gaming pc to my hard drive?
EposVox Thanks for the answer buddy, so there is no way of making GSYNC works with capture cards even if you clone screens or other sort of trick right? So if anyone needs GSYNC working while having a dedicated streaming PC the only way is NDI? Also I have seen some sort of workarounds for 165Hz or higher in 1440p. (I am just talking about passthrough and being able of using 165Hz instead of “just”144Hz). Regards, Nikos
You can’t play or capture in HDR if you are cloning tho I’m pretty sure and that’s the problem I am trying to solve. I want to game in HDR but cloning auto disabled HDR. If I use pass through do you think I will be able to use HDR?
Hey Epos, I recently got a 360hz monitor and I'm experiencing huge tearing with this card at 1080p. Have you done any testing/have any tips about this very niche subject? Thanks a ton!
There’s no capture card that supports 360hz so the only way to get 360hz on your monitor is forcing a clone to this card which is cloning to a different refresh rate and adding more tearing than would even be there in the first place. There really isn’t a fix. Until HDMI 2.1 capture cards come out that support 1080p360, software capture, NDI, or OBS projector previews out to a capture card is your only option
Wondering how this would work with a 165hz 1440p monitor, using the cloning method, can I set up the main monitor at 165hz 1440p and clone to the Elgato at 144hz 1440p? .. or would my main monitor be forced to use 144hz?
So my stream pc doesn't recognize the capture card but my gaming pc recognized the card as a second monitor... When trying to open OBS or 4k utility the card is nowhere to be found... Any help is greatly appreciated
Confused about the audio portion. Don’t I have to set my audio on my gaming pc to the hdmi output then? How do I listen to the sound then if it’s been sent to the hdmi?
You can use Elgato Sound Capture to send game sound to both the HDMI and your headphones. A lot of dual PC streamers have things routed through a mixer and etc.
EposVox I did what you explained in your video. Everything works including sound in my streams but I get no sound on my gaming rig because the input is selected as Elgato 1440p. If I change it to my headphones which I use on my gaming pc then i get the sound back in my games but I lose sound in my streams. Elgato sound capture doesn’t recognize the headphones for me to chose from gaming pc either. What am I missing here? PS: using the method 2 with a HDMI 2.0 capable monitor.
You still have to route the video. If you’re doing single PC, software capture already works and will perform better than routing through a capture card
@@EposVox Yeah I try to use OBS but there’s sometimes frame rate issues with certain scenes on some games and idk why since I have good gear. Maybe my settings are wrong
Question, I use the HD60 Pro card in my PC with a HDMI; does this device have a program similar to that of the 4k used in this video? (the purple program)
@@EposVox Ahh okay, thanks for the response! If I could ask one more question to maybe get your insight; When i connect both the PC's together via HDMI I get the image and then when I look at the sound(El Gato Sound Capture) the volume of the sound is constantly at 80-90% as if something is being played, even when no sound should be heard from either pc. Do you have any insight as to what might be happening? If not no worries, just trying to figure some stuff out!
@@EposVox thanks, I blew my 1080 SLI while streaming. I was concerned that maybe it was due to streaming without a capture card but I guess it was just the dust that I found them to be chocked with in the inside than!
do you think i could use eyefinity or surround to play 5760x1080 @75hz and duplicate the screen so the elgato only has a input going to it. even at 60hz would be fine i just want to know if its possible.
Inside the elgato 4k capture program I dont got the same options as you are displaying in this video. I guess Ive got a newer version of the software and I dont have nearly as many options to play around with :(
Im watching this but Im not understanding how the streaming rig is connected to the elgado or the 2nd computer. Maybe Im missing something. For example in your explanation you connect your gaming rig to the hdmi input on the elgado and then hdmi out to your monitor. I get that. but then how are we seeing/connecting it to the streaming rig?? If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it, Im setting up a new broadcasting thing
The capture card is inside the streaming rig. The setup is as follows: 1) Gaming PC connected to Gaming monitor (usually with Display port) from the GPU. 2) Gaming PC connected to the 4K60 Pro (using HDMI 2.0 compatible cable) 3) 4K60 Pro is inside the streaming PC (this is how they are connected together) 4) Gaming PC duplicates screen. Elgato should appear as a second monitor. Duplicate to Elgato 'monitor'. 5) Streaming PC will now see everything on your Gaming PC. 6) Done
@@mrratchet thanks so much, I will follow this. This whole time I thought that the 4k60 must be in the gaming pc, that's where everything had me lost. Thanks!
@@mrratchet ok and what about audio? i have duplicate my screen into obs but the sound of gaming pc dont hear on obs in the streaming pc, can you help me?
I am using only one monitor for PC streaming, I have all inputs correct with a 2560x1080 monitor, both HDMI 2.0 cables but my monitor cannot pickup the signal for my PC at all
@@EposVox One year later I'm back to the same video lol! Is there any way or capture card in the market that can handle this with the new 360hz monitors?. I wan't to be able to use G-sync + V-sync on my Gaming PC while using a capture card on my streaming PC
What I don't understand is how is she able to split the mic signal to both her stream and game pc? Her diagram shows that, splitting the aux send to both systems. How? From what I understand, mic signal is too low of an input to split to multiple devices and there isn't a cable to split them anyways. So how is that possible? Assuming that mic is generally set up on stream pc, how would she be able to talk in game?
I did all of these setting yet my quality is terrible. Idk why. My streams ran better on one pc. Not sure what else I could change to make quality better in obs! Help!
Try, I don't know, I myself am looking for answers, to downclock your 144 Hz monitor to 120 Hz, in the monitor properties. If there is no 120 Hz, it can be added in "CRU" (you can add it under "Standard resolutions, I used it to add 4:3 and 3:2 resolutions for older games). I have a 144 Hz and 75 Hz monitor. I downclocked them to 120 Hz and 60 Hz.
I need help I have the mk2 and I’m using HDMI 2.0 whenever I set my refresh rate up to 240hz I get a black screen on my main monitor but I open OBS on my second monitor and I can everything from obs that’s happening on my main but I switch to 144hz it works just fine and I don’t get a black screen I can see everything and also when I open Nvidia control panel and monitor appears as el gato that’s it my monitor doesn’t appear on the control panel
Brother I need your Help , with my Elgato60 HD S " I have a Green Screen and Logitech 930c 1080p Camera & Blu-Yeti Microphone & i also have Alienware Aurora i7 8th Gen 3.6 ghz 6 cores , with 32 Gb ddr4 Ram & Geforce Gtx 1080 graphics card , i also have my Camera , Elgato & Microphone all connected to USB 3.0 ports . When i press record , my Camera feed and Audio is Always out of sync , i have tried everything from lowering the bitrate and resolution , but nothing seem to work , if you have any ideas or recommendations , it would be much appreciated ,Thank you in advance .
The capturecard has delay, figure out how much delay and set up your rest to this delay, im not pretty sure if it works for capture in obs. If its below 1 sec you can just delay your mic only, nobody will notice until you try to play music and sing to it. If you want less delay you have to go with a hd60pro at least
One question adam, if you were to run an nvidia surround (triple monitor 2560x1440 144hz) and you just want to capture the center monitor to stream to youtube/twitch using a dual PC setup, do you think its viable to do it via the ElGato 4k60pro or you think using 1st PC OBS -> NDI -> 2nd PC OBS would be better option?
I'm not sure. From what I understand of Nvidia surround, you won't be able to clone just a single screen, so you might need NDI. But if you CAN clone the screen, the 4k60 Pro would be better to save performance.
Hello. When you used 4k60 elgato - which processor and obs settings was on the stream PC? Someone said that this capture card is much more CPU-intensive than hd60s?
Yes. They have minimum system specs listed on their website. 4k 60fps is very much more demanding than 1080p60. My test systems were an i7-6900k + GTX 1080 and an i9-7980XE + GTX 980
EposVox EposVox thnx! Right now I have on streamPC 1700 ryzen 3,9ghz with 3200mhz ram and with elgato hd60s my obs settings - ez 720p slow (max 810p slow x264) - and I'm afraid to buy 4k60pro, because most likely I will have to reduce the preset x264 - because I'm using the 1440p144hz monitor... and I can not understand how much I will have to reduce x264?
Can this be used as a simple pass through? instead of actually streaming just turning the HDMI input to baseband? So going the set up would be DP to monitor 1920X1080 144Hz and using elgato HDMI input to elgate 1920X1080 144hz and down converting it to 1920X1080 60Hz to turn it in to SDI? Would it affect the CPU or losing FPS?
Hello, I encounter audio problems with this capture card, it can't capture audio, it records it but there are only poping and cracking. Do you know something?
Yeah you have to use a secondary software like voice meter banana
@@thedornado3931 actually you can get the game audio to capture no problem and dont need banana. Found that fix somewhere... Unfortunatley supposed fixes and videos everywhere that dont actually help you accomplish said task. Ive done everything here and still doesnt work. So what now? buy more hdmi cables and test all that. contact elgato technical support. Buy a bunch more crap and keep troubleshooting on your own. watch and read everyones videos that explain the same basic things while you've done it all and magically dont get those results.
One thing to add to this guide if you're using the Cloning method. At 4:51 in this video, if you find the "Video Input" readout is not showing 1440p144 (eg, 1440p120). Go back to your graphics driver settings or Windows settings where you applied the cloning, remove the cloning by going back to the default dual monitor mode (eg Extended). Now open your graphics driver settings and go to where you set the resolution and refresh rate of each device (this is "Change resolution" on the left for Nvidia settings) click on the Elgato 1440p device and set the refresh rate to 144hz and apply. Now re-apply the cloning
THANK U
This little comment was exactly what I needed.
When I follow these steps, there are no 144hz selections for the 4K60 Pro capture card... only 60 and 120hz... just by some luck I had another HDMI 2.0 cable laying around so I tried it and that was the issue... Cable that came with Elgato 4K60 Pro does NOT support 144hz for whatever reason...
THIS... is the comment of all the comments. Thank you! Saved me hours of tinkering!
Hey, man you have probably answered this a lot but i get a lot of screen tearing when recording or streaming on my streaming PC with the duplicating, i even set it to 120hz but it still doesn't seem to fix it unless i do fullscreen borderless on games which to my knowledge all that does is enables Vsync but i already had vsync on. At this point idk if it's a faulty card or if i'm doing something wrong, thanks if you reply BTW.
Have you found a fix for this?
Also getting this at July 1 2021
@@genax1170 you mean june
@@calebcaleb4983 Correct hahahahaJUNE*
btw i already fixed mine by going fast vsync on both PCs without disabling gsync not sure why but it works
i still have screen tearing and i can't figure out what's wrong :(
what setup are you using? Are you cloning or using HDMI passthrough? Also, what are the specs of your Dual PC setup?
@@ChristopherLjunggren cloning my monitor, i even bought the hdmi cords he talked about in the video. my pc specs are very good for a streaming pc as well
@@Changasx is the stream PC setup above or below the recommended i7 6xxx, GTI 10xx, 8gb ram?
@@ChristopherLjunggren amd ryzen 5 2600, gtx 1050, 16 gb ram
@@Changasx I see, recommended is amd ryzen 7 (or better). This might be the issue. :( just to clearify, are you experiencing tearing on stream or on game pc?
one thing to mention as well is if you have a 360hz 2k 1440p monitor and you want to record with mk2 you can go to 144hz only. Also, make sure when you clone to go under Nvidia Control Panel > Set up multiple displays > right click on the cloned icon and SETUP YOUR MAIN SCREEN AS THE CLONE SOURCE. I"VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT BUT NOBODY MENTIONED ANYTHING!!!!
Hey do you install the 4k60 pro in the streaming pc or in the gaming pc motherboard?🥹
@@MrRefragLiveStreams stream pc
hi, i have the algato 4k60 pro mk2 but it show me only 144hz on my gaming monitor - i have a 165mhz monitor 2k. how can i put the 165mhz on my gaming pc? i have a streaming pc too.
Which one is better cloning or passthrough?
Passthrough
@@EposVox thanks man I appreciate it
I have 2 monitors for my gaming pc.. When I connect it the passthrough way for the 4k60 mk2, its almost like the elgato clones itself to my monitor on its own, because instead of seeing both of my monitors and then the elgato I only se 1 monitor then the elgato. Dont understand that at all.. What am I doing wrong?
Does it connects with laptop for live stream????
Duplicate the screen works fine with g-sync?
No. Adaptive sync always needs disabled with capture cards
I must turn off g-synk to can grab 1440p 144hz input in 4k capture utility. THX for tip epos
@EposVox 5:13 you mean your gaming monitor or streaming monitor?
As of now, what is the most recommended capture method? Cloning or passthrough?
@@EposVox Thanks. I watched your recent video about that DP to HDMI splitter, would love to test it but it's out of stock right now. I'm almost buying an HDMI 2.0 monitor to ditch cloning, i'm not sure if the upgrade is worth 400 bucks tho
@@funkyblackcat Yo I can’t see The comment Epos left/the one he replied to you with, but I’m guessing from your comment he said pass through?
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0:40 YO!!! I think thats the first time my video was the first in the search results
This didn't work for me, until I disabled G-sync, and enabled Nvidia Fast Sync instead. I would recommend that to anyone reading this and tearing their hair out over it.
I believe setting your monitor to 120hz also helps, as 144hz is not divisible by 60 - which is actually the max hz of the card, despite what Elgato and this video would have me believe. Am I wrong on that? For that reason, I kind of wish I bought a 1080p 240hz monitor instead, as that IS divisible by 60.
GSync is not compatible with capture cards in general. And yes, 120hz can help a lot
EposVox do you know why fast sync is and gsync isn't? Couldnt quite puzzle that out.
And is there currently a card that can handle the 1440p 144hz? Or does that throw most of them off?
I should mention that it was overall a good video, it helped me out. I just found that tweet from elgato saying "1440p 144hz" a bit misleading, as it led me to get the 4k60pro
Fast Sync is supported, as it's just a better way of handling VSync. GSync required DisplayPort and interacting directly with the monitor itself with special hardware (part of why GSync monitors are so much more expensive) - and just generally capture cards are designed for static refresh rates, not variable refresh rate.
Variable Refresh is still a very new tech and there's no real reason for it outside of game systems so I wouldn't expect to see capture hardware support it much in general, maybe when HDMI 2.1 takes over, but that's a long way and $$ away
Well goddamn, I just noticed terrible tearing in my recording using the Live Gamer 4k. Considering it's pretty similar to 4k60 I came here for answers and this comment was posted just 20h ago. It works without tearing now, thank you! :D
Yeh I had to do the same here, my 144hz 1440p was stuck on 1440p60 in capture utility. However, I didn’t need to disable gsync but I did had to change to 120hz for it work. Tho it still worked with Gsync enable, I followed ur tip still disabled it n enable fast.
Why use passtrough if u can also clone the screen? Is there really less inputlag?
Hey Eposvox,
Hope all is well. Would a display port to HDMI 2.0 adapter work for the pass through option? Thanks!
For getting from gpu to the card, yes, but there's no adapters the other way around if your monitor doesn't support hdmi 2.0
EposVox got it! Thanks so much :)
I'm getting very slight screen tear still. I followed through with the instructions of the video and I looked back in my recording and I can notice it slightly. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong here D:
Same, but the problem seems to have improved significantly.
Thank you for the vid, but have a question. YOu have said to set the input edid mode to internal but on video is Display. what difference does it make?
Which method is the better of the two? or are the differences negligible...?
OMFG thank you took me so long just to get the audio working. Cheers man.
I have a question if I have 2 pcs and I want to purchase elgato 4k60 pro mk2 where you I install the capture card on my gaming pc or streaming pc?
Does Stream Deck work with Rec Central 4 (Avermedia's Software)?
Not with any sort of native integration, but you can set up normal hotkeys to interact.
Can you make a new updated one please. I have the MK2 and the setting is different and the sound is not working for me.
Got my 4kpro for 150 today, i am so hyped. Will there be a difference when i stream in 1080p 60hz vs 1080p in 144hz?
did I miss in there how you get the video to the second pc (streaming PC)?
I know this is an older video but I have a very weird issue. When I clone my monitor to my capture card, my games cannot be played full screen.
Does the goxlr and microhpone plug into the streaming or gaming PC?
You have this same setup for single pc?
I am having major problems with my 4k60mk2
Hey eposvox which monitor do I put my output to? My gaming PC monitor or my streaming PC monitor which has obs running on it? Cheers
do you have a AverMedia GC573 version of it?
Hello, I have a question I play in a 3840× 1600 144 Hz resolution, this acquisition card can it wait for 144 Hz on this resolution in streaming at the same time? thank you
So for duplicating the display. It is Graphics Card HDMI > Elgato Input? Then Elgato Output > Streaming PC?
For the first method, it works. But what if I want to plug my PS4 Pro into the Elgato HDMI In? Now I have to take out the HDMI 2.0 cable running from my Game GPU. Then how do I see the game on the game monitor (ie, the 1440p monitor)
One question, in the past, clonning and using a capture card would show tearing unless using vsync, and windows only send a vsync signal on the primary display, how do you bypass this?
Is possible to duplicate a sorround screen 5760x1080 or only duplicate the middle monitor? In not able to do it please help
Hi. Does it require 140 mbps net speed to record 4K 60fps? That part confuses me in settings.
Recording doesn't require any internet speed
can i just run hdmi 2.1 from gaming pc to elgato and display port from streaming pc to monitor on streaming pc and clone gaming monitor with elgato . or is that a dumb question
You should get more views. You don’t know how much you are helping ppl like me I love your channel and please keep it up till you to get there
Thanks! :) Spread the word!
Great video as always! The music that's playing in the background is fresh.... What's the title?
For the yuv color range, you say set it to default, but it is set to partial on your video. Which one should I use?
I am confused wheres the section about removing screen tearing?
PixelTwitch | PC Gaming Goodness it can record at a higher fps so it wont have screen tearing as long as you are playing at 240hz or below
Just upgraded my monitor to a 1440p and 240hz, my old monitor was a 1440p and 144hz which I had mirrored to the 4k60 pro. Question is will I have any issues mirroring this time because my monitor is now running 240hz. Will the card still read 1440p 144hz and my main still be at 1440p 240hz without any issues ? Thanks
Anything different if you're running a mixer in to the setup? Or just choose the custom audio as the Elgato?
I have a 343CQR (ultrawide + HDR + Freesync) Is there a way to keep HDR and Freesync on my monitor, while capturing it? EIther via passthrough or cloning? I think clones and passthrough strip off freesync and/or HDR? I'm new to this dual setup and trying to figure out a way to have everything work. Actually using NDI which ain't optimal IMO
hi. i have a problem when i set the EDID to ether internal or default settings on 1080p144hz i get these green boxes around the gameplay i googled the problem but only found a poste that said that the pci slot in the stream pc has to be 2x4 and i think i have 2x1 is that the reason its wired my friend said that it works fine for him on the same pci stream pc
If I don't want to stream and just not have 2 pc and so on but just one pc and do vods should I get this or just use OBS and that's it? Relive is pretty glitchy... not working usually doesn't record audio..
i would have a 5600x cpu and a good GPU or medium low, I am just wondering if it's worth buying that elgato too or just do it by OBS and nothing else.
It's maybe not worth to buy an elgato and do this single pc config right?...
Capture card doesn’t help single pc setups
100% no lag with using cloning? no audio software need like voicemeeter?
Can I work well with a HDMI 2.1
In the recording tab of elgato. what bitrate should i use for 1080p 60fps
Can this be done on 1080p 144hz monitor ?
Yep!
is there a cheaper capture card option available now to run 1080p 144hz on the gaming monitor, with a 60hz monitor attached to the streaming pc?
@@EposVox hey epos! Thanks for the video it really helps! But i have a question i try to setup in 1080p120hz it doesnt apply in 4k capture software and then i put 1440p instead and 120hz appear otherwise in 1080p it only set it to 60hz in 4k capture card software
dfdfdfd g did someone answer you me and you are in same spot bro
I'm going to try this but do you think there will be any issues if the gaming pc has an ultrawide monitor? I know there will be black bars on the videos but I'll fill it out.
I'm really new to PC and I want to record gameplay with the Elgato 4K. I only have a one monitor PC set up. If my question is answered within the video, I completely missed it or don't understand so I'm sorry. Can I use the Elgato 4k with a one monitor set up PC or do I need to get a second monitor to use it
Thanks for this! Still getting tearing, but it seems far less pronounced. I wonder if I lower to 120 or 60 if it will improve further...
So how would this work when working in digital audio workstations? As for gaming, the sound comes via HDMI, but when you're in a DAW you use ASIO, which isn't directly played back through windows MME but straight to your (external) sound card. How would you capture sound without the hassle of adding hardware (e.g. mixer)?
this worked really well for recording PS5 footage with OBS using a 4k60. Thank you for this.
is it better to use cloning or passtrough for dual pc?
Passthrough
@@EposVox so it's best use hdmi from gpu to 4k60 pro mk2 ( then out fron 4k60 to second monitor?) Then how i gonna sec gon pc
Care to explain the reason as to why you chose integrated for the PC clone and display for the pass through?
It can't do Display if you're cloning because you're not running the HDMI out to your display for it to grab EDID from. In general you want it to match your display settings, which is why you do choose Display for passthrough.
EposVox so I'd have to manually change it each time switching between console with HDMI pass through and PC when I clone the output?
Don't have to, but it would be ideal.
Theres no audio being sent on a dual pc set up when trying to stream... any help
So I have an Alienware aw2721d which is 1440p 240hz what do I set the 4k capture utility to.
where does the capture card go? gaming pc or streaming pc
Streaming PC. The one you want to be doing the capturing in.
what is the output on the elgato on your streaming pc going to ? your streaming pc GPU?
Output would be going to your monitor..
thoughts on using a HDMI 2.0 to Display Port 1.4 Adapter in the HDMI out on the capture card to gaming monitor display port?
Cloning has some very strange behaviour with games in Fullscreen.
Those adapters are DP to HDMI, not HDMI to DP. HDMI to DP is very rare and expensive
@@EposVox doesn't that mean the adapter would just be plugged in at the monitor end? I'm confused.
Nope, the conversion is one way. DP OUT to HDMI OUT. I've tested it, it doesn't work the other way. The converters and power draws inside are different.
@@EposVox good to know. Thanks!
Cost aside, would one of the rare HDMI to DP converters be a viable option? Or just asking for trouble?
Hello eposvox do u have any idea can I clone my new monitor 1440p 180hz to my streaming pc with avermedia 4k capture card.. really want to keep refresh rate on 180hz
You can't. Capture cards don't support it.
Good vid. Kind of curious did you try the card recording to different codec's? Like Lags or Huffy just wondering how the card would perform
It's just a capture card, so it'd be up to your CPU to handle the encoding. I've not really messed with it, high enough bitrate H264 is generally good enough for 99% of uses
Yeah I've played with some cap cards and they freak out when pushing to much data (50-80MB/s or more) or don't like it when forcing a codec like Lags or MagicYUV even with a 10 core Xeon and an SSD array. I'm still looking at the 4K60 card from Magwell but it's $800 lol
Circling back to this, I now use it regularly to capture UTVideo 422 rec.601 and it handles it fine.
with this does it bring over all audio from the gaming pc. so i dont have to buy a mixer or do i still have to
Thank you so much . Just got the dell 1440p monitor and couldn't be happier withe the quality of this cap card
When you do the cloning method, doesn't that mean your graphics card has to do twice the work since it's feeding multiple outputs?
No. It’s just duplicating the output. No performance changes. Weird I know but it’s not actually impacting performance
@@fintan. thats Not true, threre should be a way to Clone IT trought Hardware..
if you only need PC, (x360 new, ps3,4) you need that too?
Ist there Any way to Clone IT with Hardware, so the PC thinks there ist only one Output?
Hey vox, can you tell me one thing, do you put your elgato 4k60fps into your gaming pc, or the streaming pc? Having difficulty while using 2 monitors on my gaming and a single monitor on my streaming. Also since your streaming pc is encoding to twitch I'm not understanding if you need a nice gpu or if the cpu is best? I can use a 1080ti in the streaming or a cheap 1gb ddr3 gpu if need
have you you found the answer to your question about where the 4k60 pro should be installed in ?
I have a dual pc setup using the elgato 4k60fps card.... The only issues with duplicating your gaming monitor to your capture card is some games every time you tab out of full screen to say look at your twitch chat, my computer screen flashes a few times while it re finds and duplicates my desktop now. It's so annoying having to wait like 10 seconds for this and the sane once I go back into my full screen game.... Does this happen to you on Some games and is there a diffrent way to capture video versus duplicating monitors
Quick question my streaming/recording pc has a r9 fury nano which according to amd doesn't support 4k60 fps recording, if I upgrade to a 4k60 pro will i be able to use my cpu which is a ryzen 5 1600 to capture 4k 60fps content from my gaming pc to my hard drive?
Hi there,
thanks for the video. Does this method also works for higher than 144Hz? And GSYNC? Does this adds any problem to GSYNC behavior?
Regards :)
This capture card only works at 144hz or lower for 1440p, 240hz or lower for 1080p.
GSync/FreeSync is not supported on any capture card.
EposVox Thanks for the answer buddy,
so there is no way of making GSYNC works with capture cards even if you clone screens or other sort of trick right?
So if anyone needs GSYNC working while having a dedicated streaming PC the only way is NDI?
Also I have seen some sort of workarounds for 165Hz or higher in 1440p. (I am just talking about passthrough and being able of using 165Hz instead of “just”144Hz).
Regards,
Nikos
You can’t play or capture in HDR if you are cloning tho I’m pretty sure and that’s the problem I am trying to solve. I want to game in HDR but cloning auto disabled HDR. If I use pass through do you think I will be able to use HDR?
yes
Hey Epos, I recently got a 360hz monitor and I'm experiencing huge tearing with this card at 1080p. Have you done any testing/have any tips about this very niche subject?
Thanks a ton!
There’s no capture card that supports 360hz so the only way to get 360hz on your monitor is forcing a clone to this card which is cloning to a different refresh rate and adding more tearing than would even be there in the first place.
There really isn’t a fix. Until HDMI 2.1 capture cards come out that support 1080p360, software capture, NDI, or OBS projector previews out to a capture card is your only option
@@EposVox Thanks for the tips! Appreciate all the help you give.
Wondering how this would work with a 165hz 1440p monitor, using the cloning method, can I set up the main monitor at 165hz 1440p and clone to the Elgato at 144hz 1440p? .. or would my main monitor be forced to use 144hz?
So my stream pc doesn't recognize the capture card but my gaming pc recognized the card as a second monitor... When trying to open OBS or 4k utility the card is nowhere to be found... Any help is greatly appreciated
Did you install the drivers from Elgato's website?
@@EposVox Dang I'm an idiot lol
Confused about the audio portion. Don’t I have to set my audio on my gaming pc to the hdmi output then?
How do I listen to the sound then if it’s been sent to the hdmi?
You can use Elgato Sound Capture to send game sound to both the HDMI and your headphones.
A lot of dual PC streamers have things routed through a mixer and etc.
EposVox I did what you explained in your video. Everything works including sound in my streams but I get no sound on my gaming rig because the input is selected as Elgato 1440p. If I change it to my headphones which I use on my gaming pc then i get the sound back in my games but I lose sound in my streams. Elgato sound capture doesn’t recognize the headphones for me to chose from gaming pc either. What am I missing here?
PS: using the method 2 with a HDMI 2.0 capable monitor.
my video input on my streaming pc is saying 1080p60 instead of 1080p240 any help with this?
Does that card Let you capture directly from the PC since its inside it or do you still have to use the "In and Out" ports?
You still have to route the video. If you’re doing single PC, software capture already works and will perform better than routing through a capture card
@@EposVox Yeah I try to use OBS but there’s sometimes frame rate issues with certain scenes on some games and idk why since I have good gear. Maybe my settings are wrong
Those issues would very likely still persist if not be worse with a capture card then
@@EposVox Like the games play fine, it’s just the video after that’s recorded lags sometimes 🤷🏼♂️
Question, I use the HD60 Pro card in my PC with a HDMI; does this device have a program similar to that of the 4k used in this video? (the purple program)
The 4K capture utility can work w/ the HD60 Pro but doesn't do much different than their Game Capture app for it
@@EposVox Ahh okay, thanks for the response! If I could ask one more question to maybe get your insight; When i connect both the PC's together via HDMI I get the image and then when I look at the sound(El Gato Sound Capture) the volume of the sound is constantly at 80-90% as if something is being played, even when no sound should be heard from either pc. Do you have any insight as to what might be happening? If not no worries, just trying to figure some stuff out!
Can you help with doing this on ultra wide please
Can u also pls make a video to use this card to stream on a single pc ?
There is no reason to use a capture card for a single PC stream, nor does it provide any benefit.
@@EposVox thanks, I blew my 1080 SLI while streaming. I was concerned that maybe it was due to streaming without a capture card but I guess it was just the dust that I found them to be chocked with in the inside than!
Do you put the capture card into the streaming rig or the gaming one?
Streaming
That's what makes it a streaming rig
Should the capture card output be connected to my monitor for my stream PC or for my gaming PC?(5:10)
Do you install the capture card into the streaming pc?
Yes
@@EposVox ok thank you for replying on such a old video!
do you think i could use eyefinity or surround to play 5760x1080 @75hz and duplicate the screen so the elgato only has a input going to it. even at 60hz would be fine i just want to know if its possible.
and if i get higher refresh rate monitors could i just keep it recording at the 60+ fps but have a much higher fps on my screen.
Inside the elgato 4k capture program I dont got the same options as you are displaying in this video. I guess Ive got a newer version of the software and I dont have nearly as many options to play around with :(
These options are all still there
Im watching this but Im not understanding how the streaming rig is connected to the elgado or the 2nd computer. Maybe Im missing something. For example in your explanation you connect your gaming rig to the hdmi input on the elgado and then hdmi out to your monitor. I get that. but then how are we seeing/connecting it to the streaming rig?? If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it, Im setting up a new broadcasting thing
The capture card is inside the streaming rig. The setup is as follows:
1) Gaming PC connected to Gaming monitor (usually with Display port) from the GPU.
2) Gaming PC connected to the 4K60 Pro (using HDMI 2.0 compatible cable)
3) 4K60 Pro is inside the streaming PC (this is how they are connected together)
4) Gaming PC duplicates screen. Elgato should appear as a second monitor. Duplicate to Elgato 'monitor'.
5) Streaming PC will now see everything on your Gaming PC.
6) Done
@@mrratchet thanks so much, I will follow this. This whole time I thought that the 4k60 must be in the gaming pc, that's where everything had me lost. Thanks!
@@RahimMasters That's alright, you're welcome. Best of luck with your streaming! :)
@@mrratchet again thanks a million. I've been pulling my hair out for 3 days trying to figure this out
@@mrratchet ok and what about audio? i have duplicate my screen into obs but the sound of gaming pc dont hear on obs in the streaming pc, can you help me?
I pick custom audio device and pick my capture card but i still get no audio :/ what do you think is causing that
Koins did u ever figure out the problem I’m haveing the same rn
I am using only one monitor for PC streaming, I have all inputs correct with a 2560x1080 monitor, both HDMI 2.0 cables but my monitor cannot pickup the signal for my PC at all
This doesnt work if You have Gsync and Vsync on Right ? The games just locks at 60FPS ?
Vsync would work fine. GSync and other adaptive sync doesn't work with any capture card
@@EposVox One year later I'm back to the same video lol! Is there any way or capture card in the market that can handle this with the new 360hz monitors?. I wan't to be able to use G-sync + V-sync on my Gaming PC while using a capture card on my streaming PC
What I don't understand is how is she able to split the mic signal to both her stream and game pc? Her diagram shows that, splitting the aux send to both systems. How? From what I understand, mic signal is too low of an input to split to multiple devices and there isn't a cable to split them anyways. So how is that possible? Assuming that mic is generally set up on stream pc, how would she be able to talk in game?
I did all of these setting yet my quality is terrible. Idk why. My streams ran better on one pc. Not sure what else I could change to make quality better in obs! Help!
Try, I don't know, I myself am looking for answers, to downclock your 144 Hz monitor to 120 Hz, in the monitor properties. If there is no 120 Hz, it can be added in "CRU" (you can add it under "Standard resolutions, I used it to add 4:3 and 3:2 resolutions for older games).
I have a 144 Hz and 75 Hz monitor. I downclocked them to 120 Hz and 60 Hz.
I need help I have the mk2 and I’m using HDMI 2.0 whenever I set my refresh rate up to 240hz I get a black screen on my main monitor but I open OBS on my second monitor and I can everything from obs that’s happening on my main but I switch to 144hz it works just fine and I don’t get a black screen I can see everything and also when I open Nvidia control panel and monitor appears as el gato that’s it my monitor doesn’t appear on the control panel
Brother I need your Help , with my Elgato60 HD S " I have a Green Screen and Logitech 930c 1080p Camera & Blu-Yeti Microphone & i also have Alienware Aurora i7 8th Gen 3.6 ghz 6 cores , with 32 Gb ddr4 Ram & Geforce Gtx 1080 graphics card , i also have my Camera , Elgato & Microphone all connected to USB 3.0 ports . When i press record , my Camera feed and Audio is Always out of sync , i have tried everything from lowering the bitrate and resolution , but nothing seem to work , if you have any ideas or recommendations , it would be much appreciated ,Thank you in advance .
The capturecard has delay, figure out how much delay and set up your rest to this delay, im not pretty sure if it works for capture in obs. If its below 1 sec you can just delay your mic only, nobody will notice until you try to play music and sing to it. If you want less delay you have to go with a hd60pro at least
One question adam, if you were to run an nvidia surround (triple monitor 2560x1440 144hz) and you just want to capture the center monitor to stream to youtube/twitch using a dual PC setup, do you think its viable to do it via the ElGato 4k60pro or you think using 1st PC OBS -> NDI -> 2nd PC OBS would be better option?
I'm not sure. From what I understand of Nvidia surround, you won't be able to clone just a single screen, so you might need NDI. But if you CAN clone the screen, the 4k60 Pro would be better to save performance.
Hello. When you used 4k60 elgato - which processor and obs settings was on the stream PC?
Someone said that this capture card is much more CPU-intensive than hd60s?
Yes. They have minimum system specs listed on their website. 4k 60fps is very much more demanding than 1080p60.
My test systems were an i7-6900k + GTX 1080 and an i9-7980XE + GTX 980
EposVox EposVox thnx! Right now I have on streamPC 1700 ryzen 3,9ghz with 3200mhz ram and with elgato hd60s my obs settings - ez 720p slow (max 810p slow x264) - and I'm afraid to buy 4k60pro, because most likely I will have to reduce the preset x264 - because I'm using the 1440p144hz monitor... and I can not understand how much I will have to reduce x264?
Can this be used as a simple pass through? instead of actually streaming just turning the HDMI input to baseband? So going the set up would be DP to monitor 1920X1080 144Hz and using elgato HDMI input to elgate 1920X1080 144hz and down converting it to 1920X1080 60Hz to turn it in to SDI? Would it affect the CPU or losing FPS?
No, the passthrough is untouched, so it cannot change the refresh rate of the signal being passed through.
Is there anything out there that can take 144hz or even 240hz and down convert to 60hz?
@@paintbll1234 These guys might have something www.decimator.com/
Do i still need to clone my stuff and if so how do i know that passthrough is working? I have a amd rx7900xt
Do i still need to clone my stuff when using passthrough
And also when i duplicate my monitors my streaming pc elgato app doesnt work it says “device is in use by other application”
do both monitors have to be 144hz?