For a battle rifle 308 is the way to go in my opinion for several reasons. If your wanting a more long range sniper type rifle then sure take a look at 6.5.
16in 308 AR , red dot with a bdc reticle with 4 or 6 x magnifier (preferably qd on both), tritium backup irons and a good light/sling. small enough to fight in urban areas but with 308 and a magnifier/reticle, you can easily stretch it out effectively.
Yes....I agree with everything you said. 7.62/308 all the way. My glass is the older Leupold 3.5 to 10 x 42 Mark 4 with an illuminated mil dot reticle. Rings: big chunky 6 bolt Burris, adjustable cant with 20 m.o.a. up set. Rifle: 16" CHF 1:10 twist Sig 716. It is piston driven-- but that's not a must. It just runs a little longer corked without frequent cleaning, and I do enjoy the 3 gas setting options. Factory quad rail, with Harris bi-pod under it. Yes, it's on the heavy side. I have the midwest back up 45 degree irons. I will take them over ANY 45 degree sight made today. I love the Troy's as well but midwest makes them much sleeker and low profile. Kind of older school set-up, but it works 100% of the time and I like it. It has been very hot, also wet and gone without cleaning 100's of rounds and remained reliable. No need to fix what is not broken. I do need that XS tritium strip front sight post though....I had forgotten to order one. Thank's for reminding me Mr. Yeager.....Damn fine weapon you have there Sir. Thank's for all you do for us. : )
Nice setup. Love the 18” barrel. I run M&P10 with 18” 5R barrel with a 3-18 power scope. Very accurate for a non-free float barrel. Might free float it later or pick up an MI rifle when they’re back in stock.
Looks like a great setup James. It’s amazing the improvements that have been made to the AR-10 in just a few years. I remember your original battle rifle videos with the FAL in camo paint.
@@dtenor201 I believe machining capability has really improved to where it doesnt cost an arm and a leg to get decent stuff like it once might have. I'm betting the ar15 in 223/556 will fall away and the AR10s in 308 will become the next trendy rifle/caliber. It may already be, but this parts shortage could tip the scale 🤷🏻♂️
@@dtenor201 maybe. It was ambitious to say, and it may never get to quite that point, I just see them really growing and becoming more practical and popular Plus everyone always says the ak is better cause it's a bigger bullet, so that kind of ruins that argument 😆 Trends can definitely get out of hand quick. If it doesnt become more popular I'm betting very close second
I have the tactical response Midwest 308. And with the current gun parts shortage i am even more thankful to have it. Yeagerbomb1775 is also nice at Midwest.
James, back in 2013 I took a couple of Armalite AR10-B rifles and built our 9lb AR10’s with Leupold Mark4 LR/T scopes, JP Rifles 16” barrel, JP gas block, JP hand guards, Slashes heavy buffer and Ace skeletal stock. My goal was to build an AR10 that was the same length as our AR15s and as light as possible so my wife could handle it. Today they are still our primary and my wife loves shooting them more than any of our other firearms. Very happy to see you are an AR10 fan.
The canted sights are nice. Even if a scope has true 1x, it's still not as good as a red dot. Plus, I think we all forget to dial back down sometimes...
@@TacticalResponseCrew 1- I am not sure, Covid is making life tough 2- Im thinking March 17, Ill message you. I am getting on top of my crap this year.
Last summer I finally "pulled the trigger" on a POF Revolution DI, the most expensive firearm I have ever bought, worth every penny. Basically a 7 pound AR-15 chambered in .308. Topped with the new Atibal 1-10 x 32 scope it's my holy grail DMR that can engage targets from 0-800 yards.
Thanks James. Guys, listen to James and you won't go wrong on guns, shooting, defense, etc. Enjoy it all while you can lest you become disabled like I am and can't do these things anymore. James has helped me a LOT over the years for which I'm ever so grateful.
Love the 308 especially when talking handloading. Large primers (forget looking for small), brass for days, all kinds of hunting projectiles readily available, and gunpowder everywhere. I’m putting the 556 in the closet for 2021.
Never thought I'd say this but my 7.62 x 39 AR build. Have over 2k rounds through it using both 30 round ASC and Duramags without one hiccup. Holuson red dot with acss reticle, red dot magnifier all on Scalerworks mounts. Back up irons, Vickers sling, Streamlight TLR RM2 white light. High quality barrel, bcg and mounts make this a ideal fighting rifle.
I built my battle rifle (still running it through it's paces to make sure it is ready) and I used Aero Precision for the main components (Upper, Lower, BCG) The Midwest Industries 308 is a sweet looking rifle. I look forward to shooting it someday down the road.
I bought a Fulton Armory AR-10 years ago. I have hunted with it and ran it fairly hard. I've never had any issues with it, other than it is heavy. Your setup is very similar to mine, other than your accessories are better than mine. I only have an accupoint Trijicon 3x9, magpul metal 45-degree angle sights, and a Vickers tactical two-point padded sling.
I pieced mine together and have that MI rail... it is comfortable and light. My only problem with mine is my lower receiver is a chunk of metal... when I bought parts .308 lowers were scarce and she is already cerakoted Jesse James Blue... other than that I am all for 308 AR style!!
I did a dpms lr 308 it is a ap4 with a free float rail an magpul acs stock, gem tech 3prong flash hider and bcm mid size charging handle magpul 20 round mags topped off with an armalight carry handle
Spot on James. I have a POF P308 SPR (18.5" barrel) piston AR-10, w/Robar NP3 finished upper/lower. Same Leupold 3.6-18x44 Mk5 (Tremor3, illuminated), in a SPUHR QD mount. Also a Trij 1-8x28 Accupower in another SPUHR QD mount, to swap on for close-up work. Diamondhead Micro-D BUIS. Both optic mounts "bottom third" co-witness with these HK height BUIS. Magpul 1pt/2pt strap, Atlas bipod with non-rotating legs. Back up BCG, BCG rebuild kit, back-up op-rod, piston, gas plug................ Nothing "range toy" about it, a real Battle Rifle! Broke in to be a .6 MOA rifle with 168 GMM. If I installed the RDS on my P308, our choices would be almost identical. 👍
I agree with your comment about that probably being to much glass for a battle rifle. I think a 1-8 or 1-10 LPVO without the offset red dot would shed a lot of weight and maintain pretty close to the same functionality. Seems pretty close to what I would consider a modern semi auto precision rifle or a designated marksman rifle with that much glass.
James, You got me back into AR-10's with your DPMS G2 series. I fell in love with them and have had awesome success in accuracy and reliability. I stayed with the 308 vs 6.5 and other offerings because it just works. Are there advantages to other calibers, yes, but they are not enough to make me switch from the 308 and its availability (ammo wise). The AR-10 really has been a do all rifle for me. Have had excellent success with it for hunting. Coyotes to deer and antelope to elk have been no problem. I plan on taking a buffalo with it in a few years (have a bonded hunting bullet load worked up). I can load it heavy with 180's or light with 125's and reduced loads for the kids to hunt with (recoils like an AR-15 when loaded light). It just works!!! Unfortunately DPMS is no longer. I keep hoping someone buys the design of the G2 and runs with it, but its good to know Midwest is making fine rifles also. May have to snag one someday. Thanks for your vids. Your personality is an icon in this day and age. Where being a man is frowned upon by the "civilized" world. Thanks for keeping us grounded to reality of how we are supposed to be as men. Keep up the great work!!
James, I also feel that set up is the one I will go with for a battle. it can be used at close range and it's awesome at longer ranges with great power. it's a perfect overall setup.
Faxon makes a pencil barrel for the .308. really lightened up my Aero precision M5. Still shoots tight. Love your insights James. Glad to see someone who will change their opinion over time as the market is constantly changing.
I added a Armageddon precision sling to my M14 and it’s been great. Biggest issue I have with a battle rifle is the weight and keeping it stabilized. Even at the the low ready it will just wear you out. The sling has stretchy material to help pull the rifle into your shoulder and it has a loop that you stick your left arm through to stabilize. Now I’m a strong dude, I am talking about fatigue being the issue.
I'm impressed, great presentation.....my battle rifle is a RRA with a leupold 1.24-4, then a Springfield M14 with a red dot .. Nothing really anything to brag about.
If anyone gets a DSA FAL I hope you get one that works, the one I had was crap, I had to send it in 3x, and in the end no matter what ammo, no matter the magazine, no matter the gas adjustment, it couldn’t even make it through one magazine. Now I have a PTR91, very reliable, recoil isn’t as bad as most people say, and magazines are cheap and plentiful. Downside is that it is wayyyy heavier than many 308 rifles and the ergonomics are horrendous. This AR looks pretty cool, I’m thinking these 308 AR’s are going to be the future of the battle rifle.
Actually I like your rifle! All great options on it. I have Aero M5e1 in 6.5 and another upper in .308. I have sig LVPO and Primary arms Cyclops SLx on the other upper. I love guns in general and I don’t knock anyone’s build. Some else may not like mine but it works and I work the hell out them. Nice build! God bless!
The set up you showed is top of the line no doubt i just Went with the 6.5 Grendel with 20 inch barrel running the leupold mod 1 AR scope 3 x 9 x40 with a Mark AR 1" mount
@@johnandrewserranogarcia7223 check the ballistics i have killed deer at 500 yards at 800 yards its still has over 500 hundred pounds of energy traveling 0ver 1300 FPS which is more than the average sporting rifle with much better coefficientcy may not be up with what people call a battle rifle but a lot more than a fighting rifle
Nice rifle and setup! If I had the extra $$$ I'd love to get one like it. For now I'm going to have to be satisfied with an M1A SOCOM 16 and a Primary Arms 5x ACSS prism optic on a CASM mount. It's heavy, but compact and swings well, and it hits as far out as my current skill level allows. Thanks for continuing the no BS content.
Love the setup!! For me, your exact rig and optic, only chambered in 6.5 CM, just my caliber and cartridge. I shoot the 6.5 CM more often now days more than the awesome 308, which is 3-5 days a week and out just past 2000 yds. I agree that the Accu-tac bipod is absolutely the best. Great content and film.
Yea at that distance 6.5 is better but if it’s a 550-600 meter gun I’d rather 308 just for price . I bet you get so much hate from the old guys who love to preach the gospel that semi auto rifles aren’t accurate enough to shoot long range .
Sweet rifle. Nothing wrong with your set up. I have a 20-inch 308 AR that I built as a competition precision rifle to shoot 1,000 yard stuff- so slightly different. At 12lbs I would select it as as a DMR for support but admittedly I haven’t trained with it as a battle rifle so I’d likely have to change the stock. 178gr bullets definitely hard
Looks good. My lmt is set up similar no dot but irons are at the 45 degree. I have a 2.5-10 power on the battle rifle. It seems to be accurate enough with me behind it to 600yds which is where I think they shine.
Well James, looks like a bad hammer set up. I love the .308, I've taken many deer with this round. Excellent hunting cartridge. I've always wanted an AR-10 but I didn't trust the reliability of rifle. May change my mind in the future. I love my Leupold scopes, currently running one on my BCM Recce. Cool battle rifle James.
Mine is a similar setup. 16” 308, ta11 3.5x Acog with 5.56 reticle since it matches better for the 16” barrel, a2 stock, blue force padded sling, magpul bipod (not a fan) and artcise carbon fiber tripod setup.
I like your rifle a lot, I have a few rifles my 308 is an Aero M5E1 18” SS M lock rail I have an A2 rifle stock on it right now I just think it looks cool with a traditional stock. I don’t have glass for it but looking at the Vortex line, Magpul MBUS for irons. I’m not a fan of 45 degree sights but that’s personal preference, It’s heavy lol I haven’t held an AR10 that was light but do you really want a light 308? I don’t know lol.
Sweet rifle, James. My battle rifle is a work-in-progress 18" Aero Precision M5 with a Vortex 1-6x. Still need to get a light for it and once I get the ACSS Vulcan 507C for my pistol, the 507C I currently have on my pistol will be going into an offset mount on the M5. Not sure if I want or even need a bipod, I live in a wooded + exurban environment, so there's PLENTY of shit to brace against or lay my rifle over.
I was just thinking that the only thing wrong with that rifle was that it wasn't in my safe lol. I am planning on getting an AR-10 and now I will be looking to set it up similar to yours.
How much does it weigh? I am thinking of taking a 2nd run at Fighting Rifle with an AR-10. Mine is coming it at like 13lbs (Stag10, heavy barrel with VCOG 1-8x28). I'm a little concerned with being able to hold on to it all day!
I just decided to build an actual quality battle rifle. I went with an LWRC DI AR in 5.56. Vortex LPVO on Aero precision mount. Haven't sorted a sling for it yet and I still only have 2 TQs... but I am pretty close to this one!
@@TacticalResponseCrew I plan on taking 2 classes this year. I don't know if I can make it to your neck of the woods but do you have any recommendations for training in the MI/OH area?
I like it. These definitions have some crossover for sure. But, I think of a Battle Rifle as having fixed sights, and a DMR having a magnified optic. Is that splitting hairs, IDK? The world of 308AR's is very different from the mil-spec AR-15. Too many variations in designs with the AR-10, LR308, SR-25, DPMS patterns. You almost have to pick one style or brand and stick with it. I love my LMT MWS, but never owned any other .308 AR. Fired a Seekins Precision in 6.5CM once, less recoil than my .308. I have extra barrels, bolts, and other parts to keep it running, so I'm invested deep into the one design.
My current primary is an m&p ar-15 with eotech optic, owl, viking sling, and magpul furniture. Probably want an ar-10 next, but debating going long with a 338 bolt action first. Also, I want a quality ak if I can find one for a good price. Decisions decisions 😁
Only change/mission option would be just as mounts, and have a good lvpo on qd as well. Zero up and hit it either way. But homeowner on a few acres like myself. I need hallway distance, and also across large fields. Like the setup, kinda captures some variants I've used in the USMC for different applications.
I do have AR10 16" 308 . She is one heavy beast to carry around . I was thinking about getting POF REVOLUTION DI because it's pounds lighter than most AR10s. If I had to roll out right now with do all be all Rig. It would for sure be 16" - 18" 6mm ARC or 6.5G SPR. Pounds lighter even with a Can . It's still capable of CQC and reaching out to 800 yards . External Ballistics are freaking awesome for 6mm ARC. Carrying around 12 pound rig doesn't seem to practical for me and my application when I can have something 2 or 3 pounds lighter with good ballistics . If I lived out west I'd for sure take 308 as do all be all . For me 6mm ARC or 6.5G can handle all my needs from CQC , Hunting and Long Range ( 800 Yards and in ) . Plus it's AR15 Platform . Your not wrong at all . It's really nice rig . I have 308 just for hunting larger game like Elk.
Thank you for your review. I really like building my own rifles and I [hope] to build an AR10 .308 on a Aero Precision receiver set. I will ensure that I don’t make the [three mistakes] when I build it. I am curious about the GPS. Why do you have it on the gun and how do you use it?
So this may sound stupid. But what is the standard mag you run? I've seen up to I believe 25 to 20 rounders. With out mentioning drum mags, what would be your standard set up ? And how would that go with the remainder of your kit ?
hey James I like the set up... the only thing I struggled alot back and forth and I decided differently then you did was on the iron sights. Any of my rifles that have scopes and not red dots on top I like to use 45 angled Irons. Reason is simple... If my scope or my red dot fails I am more like to remove my 45 angled red dot and put o my pocket or my bag and "dont leave behind" vs having to take off my scope and leave behind. Plus I find easier since I dont have unlimited $ to move angled red dot from gun to gun vs scope... so just my thoughts... any ideas on that? btw I never seen that tourniquet idea... pretty cool.. what kind of little bag pouch is that?
I've got a 18 in 6.5 creedmore with a 2.5x acss optic on it currently/ I want to throw a 3.5-18x on it and take a class. but I'll likely take a class with one of my other set up rifles.
Thank you, James, RIP. Still watching and remembering you as you watch from above.
Same. Miss the dude. Met bim twice. Salt of the earth type.
RIP James.
“Yes this rifle is loaded why would I have an unloaded rifle” FUCK YEAH!
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@@yusufraheem7586 I sure thought so.
James was out here doing it before anyone. True Legend
“Why wouldn’t I have it loaded, that doesn’t make any sense” is what sold me to your channel!!
Thanks for the video
only thing wrong with the rifle is it isn't mine lol, thanks for sharing your outstanding rifle with us
I would not want to take James's rifle, but I would love to have one like it!
Great rifle.
Good answer lol...
Amen to that brother
I'm glad to see someone else who still appreciates .308 instead of jumping on the next new kid on the block bandwagon.
#6point5whatthefuck
For a battle rifle 308 is the way to go in my opinion for several reasons. If your wanting a more long range sniper type rifle then sure take a look at 6.5.
More long range? I use a .338 so it will kill something besides paper when it gets there.
@@TacticalResponseCrew Did you opinion change at all with the DPMS G2 series?
7.62x51 imo is the best option when other support weapons aren’t feasible or available
3:08 "Let me put one around your neck we'll see." 🤣🤣😅
Much Love James!
RIP Buddy.
16in 308 AR , red dot with a bdc reticle with 4 or 6 x magnifier (preferably qd on both), tritium backup irons and a good light/sling. small enough to fight in urban areas but with 308 and a magnifier/reticle, you can easily stretch it out effectively.
Yes....I agree with everything you said. 7.62/308 all the way. My glass is the older Leupold 3.5 to 10 x 42 Mark 4 with an illuminated mil dot reticle. Rings: big chunky 6 bolt Burris, adjustable cant with 20 m.o.a. up set. Rifle: 16" CHF 1:10 twist Sig 716. It is piston driven-- but that's not a must. It just runs a little longer corked without frequent cleaning, and I do enjoy the 3 gas setting options. Factory quad rail, with Harris bi-pod under it. Yes, it's on the heavy side. I have the midwest back up 45 degree irons. I will take them over ANY 45 degree sight made today. I love the Troy's as well but midwest makes them much sleeker and low profile. Kind of older school set-up, but it works 100% of the time and I like it. It has been very hot, also wet and gone without cleaning 100's of rounds and remained reliable. No need to fix what is not broken. I do need that XS tritium strip front sight post though....I had forgotten to order one. Thank's for reminding me Mr. Yeager.....Damn fine weapon you have there Sir. Thank's for all you do for us. : )
I ended up with an Aero M5. Love it! Thanks for your videos Yeager. Appreciate what you do.
James: ...let me put one around your neck, well see...
Me: fall out of my chair laughing
Nice setup. Love the 18” barrel. I run M&P10 with 18” 5R barrel with a 3-18 power scope. Very accurate for a non-free float barrel. Might free float it later or pick up an MI rifle when they’re back in stock.
Looks like a great setup James. It’s amazing the improvements that have been made to the AR-10 in just a few years. I remember your original battle rifle videos with the FAL in camo paint.
What are the amazing improvements? I'm sure they exist but I'd really like to know.
@@dtenor201 I believe machining capability has really improved to where it doesnt cost an arm and a leg to get decent stuff like it once might have.
I'm betting the ar15 in 223/556 will fall away and the AR10s in 308 will become the next trendy rifle/caliber. It may already be, but this parts shortage could tip the scale 🤷🏻♂️
@@michaelsorenson3887 Ok, machining is one possible answer. I doubt the AR10 will ever get as popular as the 15 though.
@@dtenor201 maybe. It was ambitious to say, and it may never get to quite that point, I just see them really growing and becoming more practical and popular
Plus everyone always says the ak is better cause it's a bigger bullet, so that kind of ruins that argument 😆
Trends can definitely get out of hand quick. If it doesnt become more popular I'm betting very close second
I have the tactical response Midwest 308. And with the current gun parts shortage i am even more thankful to have it. Yeagerbomb1775 is also nice at Midwest.
you were the man
James, back in 2013 I took a couple of Armalite AR10-B rifles and built our 9lb AR10’s with Leupold Mark4 LR/T scopes, JP Rifles 16” barrel, JP gas block, JP hand guards, Slashes heavy buffer and Ace skeletal stock. My goal was to build an AR10 that was the same length as our AR15s and as light as possible so my wife could handle it. Today they are still our primary and my wife loves shooting them more than any of our other firearms. Very happy to see you are an AR10 fan.
The canted sights are nice. Even if a scope has true 1x, it's still not as good as a red dot. Plus, I think we all forget to dial back down sometimes...
been rocking the sig 716i in 308, great weapon.
Looks sweet too. Thanks for sharing it with us James!
I get asked for recommendations on this ALL THE TIME- so I'll be suggesting this from now on.
1. When do the knives arrive?
2. Get your ass back down here for classes!
@@TacticalResponseCrew 1- I am not sure, Covid is making life tough 2- Im thinking March 17, Ill message you. I am getting on top of my crap this year.
Last summer I finally "pulled the trigger" on a POF Revolution DI, the most expensive firearm I have ever bought, worth every penny. Basically a 7 pound AR-15 chambered in .308. Topped with the new Atibal 1-10 x 32 scope it's my holy grail DMR that can engage targets from 0-800 yards.
I’m envious.... but happy for you! POF Revolution DI is my dream DMR set up!
What happens when the target is 812 yards out?
Thanks James. Guys, listen to James and you won't go wrong on guns, shooting, defense, etc. Enjoy it all while you can lest you become disabled like I am and can't do these things anymore. James has helped me a LOT over the years for which I'm ever so grateful.
Love the 308 especially when talking handloading. Large primers (forget looking for small), brass for days, all kinds of hunting projectiles readily available, and gunpowder everywhere. I’m putting the 556 in the closet for 2021.
Never thought I'd say this but my 7.62 x 39 AR build. Have over 2k rounds through it using both 30 round ASC and Duramags without one hiccup. Holuson red dot with acss reticle, red dot magnifier all on Scalerworks mounts. Back up irons, Vickers sling, Streamlight TLR RM2 white light. High quality barrel, bcg and mounts make this a ideal fighting rifle.
Its not an "ideal fighting rifle" until you take it to a Fighting Rifle class.
I built my battle rifle (still running it through it's paces to make sure it is ready) and I used Aero Precision for the main components (Upper, Lower, BCG) The Midwest Industries 308 is a sweet looking rifle. I look forward to shooting it someday down the road.
RIP James. Love these videos.
"Let me put one around your neck and we'll see" 😂 You never cease to amuse me with your commentary James. That is a good one
I bought a Fulton Armory AR-10 years ago. I have hunted with it and ran it fairly hard. I've never had any issues with it, other than it is heavy. Your setup is very similar to mine, other than your accessories are better than mine. I only have an accupoint Trijicon 3x9, magpul metal 45-degree angle sights, and a Vickers tactical two-point padded sling.
Positive comment and sub for “of course it’s loaded.” “Keep up the Fire.”
I pieced mine together and have that MI rail... it is comfortable and light. My only problem with mine is my lower receiver is a chunk of metal... when I bought parts .308 lowers were scarce and she is already cerakoted Jesse James Blue... other than that I am all for 308 AR style!!
I did a dpms lr 308 it is a ap4 with a free float rail an magpul acs stock, gem tech 3prong flash hider and bcm mid size charging handle magpul 20 round mags topped off with an armalight carry handle
Really what more could you want out of a rifle you are looking to fight with.
Spot on James.
I have a POF P308 SPR (18.5" barrel) piston AR-10, w/Robar NP3 finished upper/lower.
Same Leupold 3.6-18x44 Mk5 (Tremor3, illuminated), in a SPUHR QD mount. Also a Trij 1-8x28 Accupower in another SPUHR QD mount, to swap on for close-up work. Diamondhead Micro-D BUIS. Both optic mounts "bottom third" co-witness with these HK height BUIS. Magpul 1pt/2pt strap, Atlas bipod with non-rotating legs. Back up BCG, BCG rebuild kit, back-up op-rod, piston, gas plug................
Nothing "range toy" about it, a real Battle Rifle! Broke in to be a .6 MOA rifle with 168 GMM.
If I installed the RDS on my P308, our choices would be almost identical. 👍
I agree with your comment about that probably being to much glass for a battle rifle. I think a 1-8 or 1-10 LPVO without the offset red dot would shed a lot of weight and maintain pretty close to the same functionality. Seems pretty close to what I would consider a modern semi auto precision rifle or a designated marksman rifle with that much glass.
My AR 10 from aero precision, is set up, mostly the same way
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You got me back into AR-10's with your DPMS G2 series. I fell in love with them and have had awesome success in accuracy and reliability. I stayed with the 308 vs 6.5 and other offerings because it just works. Are there advantages to other calibers, yes, but they are not enough to make me switch from the 308 and its availability (ammo wise). The AR-10 really has been a do all rifle for me. Have had excellent success with it for hunting. Coyotes to deer and antelope to elk have been no problem. I plan on taking a buffalo with it in a few years (have a bonded hunting bullet load worked up). I can load it heavy with 180's or light with 125's and reduced loads for the kids to hunt with (recoils like an AR-15 when loaded light). It just works!!! Unfortunately DPMS is no longer. I keep hoping someone buys the design of the G2 and runs with it, but its good to know Midwest is making fine rifles also. May have to snag one someday. Thanks for your vids. Your personality is an icon in this day and age. Where being a man is frowned upon by the "civilized" world. Thanks for keeping us grounded to reality of how we are supposed to be as men. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks man!
I DIG YOUR BATTLE RIFLE BRO JAMES AND I AGREE WITH YOU
James, I also feel that set up is the one I will go with for a battle. it can be used at close range and it's awesome at longer ranges with great power. it's a perfect overall setup.
I encouraged my nephew to build a .308 instead of 5.56. He bought his first drill press for it and jig kit. I'm a proud uncle
Ugh...
Faxon makes a pencil barrel for the .308. really lightened up my Aero precision M5. Still shoots tight. Love your insights James. Glad to see someone who will change their opinion over time as the market is constantly changing.
I added a Armageddon precision sling to my M14 and it’s been great. Biggest issue I have with a battle rifle is the weight and keeping it stabilized. Even at the the low ready it will just wear you out. The sling has stretchy material to help pull the rifle into your shoulder and it has a loop that you stick your left arm through to stabilize. Now I’m a strong dude, I am talking about fatigue being the issue.
LOVE my Tactical Response 308!
That is a sweet little tool, you have there. I used to own an HK91 with a trigger job. Very accurate. Nails @ 100M accurate. I miss that rifle.
I had one. Hated it.
I'm impressed, great presentation.....my battle rifle is a RRA with a leupold 1.24-4, then a Springfield M14 with a red dot .. Nothing really anything to brag about.
I to I am a fan of the 308 cartridge. I have a great set up on my DSA SA58 FAL! Only drawback is it is heavy and I can’t carry as much ammo.
If anyone gets a DSA FAL I hope you get one that works, the one I had was crap, I had to send it in 3x, and in the end no matter what ammo, no matter the magazine, no matter the gas adjustment, it couldn’t even make it through one magazine. Now I have a PTR91, very reliable, recoil isn’t as bad as most people say, and magazines are cheap and plentiful. Downside is that it is wayyyy heavier than many 308 rifles and the ergonomics are horrendous. This AR looks pretty cool, I’m thinking these 308 AR’s are going to be the future of the battle rifle.
Looks great. I have a Stag Arms in .308 with a Leupold on top. No 45 deg mount red dot though.
Actually I like your rifle! All great options on it. I have Aero M5e1 in 6.5 and another upper in .308. I have sig LVPO and Primary arms Cyclops SLx on the other upper. I love guns in general and I don’t knock anyone’s build. Some else may not like mine but it works and I work the hell out them. Nice build! God bless!
My Barrett Rec 10 is set up similar canted Red dot with a primary arms 4x14 with magpul bipod love it
The set up you showed is top of the line no doubt i just Went with the 6.5 Grendel with 20 inch barrel running the leupold mod 1 AR scope 3 x 9 x40 with a Mark AR 1" mount
@@johnandrewserranogarcia7223 check the ballistics i have killed deer at 500 yards at 800 yards its still has over 500 hundred pounds of energy traveling 0ver 1300 FPS which is more than the average sporting rifle with much better coefficientcy may not be up with what people call a battle rifle but a lot more than a fighting rifle
Pretty slick lil' set-up that's for sure. I wonder how it compares to the POF Revolution DI.
My pof p308 is amazing but heavy I tryed to build it for a dmr but it's better as a saw
Just bought sig ar 308 looking to set it up with muzzle brake and some type of scope, but more like a 1×8
Nice set up and I agree with your opinions on the battle rifle setup! Only thing I would do is cerakote it FDE or something other than black.
My AR10 set up is similar, just with Primary Arms 4-14 w/ R grid 2b reticle and 6.5 instead of 308.
This was great.
I got an AR-10 308 for Christmas.
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@@TacticalResponseCrew DPMS.
@@jimb9454 G2 or LR-308
My favorite part of every video, "yes, it's loaded". Great review. Thanks James! And yes, SOE slings are the shit!!!
Nice rifle and setup! If I had the extra $$$ I'd love to get one like it. For now I'm going to have to be satisfied with an M1A SOCOM 16 and a Primary Arms 5x ACSS prism optic on a CASM mount. It's heavy, but compact and swings well, and it hits as far out as my current skill level allows. Thanks for continuing the no BS content.
Love the setup!! For me, your exact rig and optic, only chambered in 6.5 CM, just my caliber and cartridge. I shoot the 6.5 CM more often now days more than the awesome 308, which is 3-5 days a week and out just past 2000 yds. I agree that the Accu-tac bipod is absolutely the best. Great content and film.
Yea at that distance 6.5 is better but if it’s a 550-600 meter gun I’d rather 308 just for price . I bet you get so much hate from the old guys who love to preach the gospel that semi auto rifles aren’t accurate enough to shoot long range .
@@Dcm193 thanks… yes I do. Some can’t accept that an auto will shoot.
@@wvlongshooter3912 if you listened to them you would probably believe that it would jam all the time and group like a shotgun.
I like your rifle and see nothing wrong with it. Thank you for the review and sharing your setup. What was the length of the barrel?
18
I agree. The FAL, PTR, M14 (M1A), etc are all hard to modernize and generally too heavy.
AR10s are, just like AR15s, very versatile.
Looks awesome. One question though... why a full length hand guard? For placement of the bipod?
Keeps the barrel from touching field expedient rests.
Sweet rifle. Nothing wrong with your set up. I have a 20-inch 308 AR that I built as a competition precision rifle to shoot 1,000 yard stuff- so slightly different. At 12lbs I would select it as as a DMR for support but admittedly I haven’t trained with it as a battle rifle so I’d likely have to change the stock. 178gr bullets definitely hard
I'm Canadian, so I guess I'm stuck with my Browning bar safari lol
Bad ass rifle brother closest thing I got to a battle rifle is an old ruger m77 in 308
Looks good. My lmt is set up similar no dot but irons are at the 45 degree. I have a 2.5-10 power on the battle rifle. It seems to be accurate enough with me behind it to 600yds which is where I think they shine.
James would you call 6.5 grendel a battle rifle? Or is it in the mid class
This is something that I have been thinking about as well. I'm concerned about the bolt longevity on 6.5 in particular though.
Battle Rifles are .30 caliber (8mm) as I mentioned in the video.
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@@TacticalResponseCrew at 10 it is
@@2Mile0 It's based on the 220 Russian. And yes the 220 was based on the x39.
Well James, looks like a bad hammer set up. I love the .308, I've taken many deer with this round. Excellent hunting cartridge. I've always wanted an AR-10 but I didn't trust the reliability of rifle. May change my mind in the future. I love my Leupold scopes, currently running one on my BCM Recce. Cool battle rifle James.
More likely to short stroke a bolt gun than a proper ar10 to jam .
Mine is a similar setup. 16” 308, ta11 3.5x Acog with 5.56 reticle since it matches better for the 16” barrel, a2 stock, blue force padded sling, magpul bipod (not a fan) and artcise carbon fiber tripod setup.
I see you have a 10 round mag on this setup. Are you running 10, 20, or 25 round mags on your loadout?
They make 30 & 40 rd mags too
i've started keeping 20's in my home defense ar-15, with a couple full sized ones nearby.
I like your rifle a lot, I have a few rifles my 308 is an Aero M5E1 18” SS M lock rail I have an A2 rifle stock on it right now I just think it looks cool with a traditional stock. I don’t have glass for it but looking at the Vortex line, Magpul MBUS for irons. I’m not a fan of 45 degree sights but that’s personal preference, It’s heavy lol I haven’t held an AR10 that was light but do you really want a light 308? I don’t know lol.
Sweet rifle, James. My battle rifle is a work-in-progress 18" Aero Precision M5 with a Vortex 1-6x. Still need to get a light for it and once I get the ACSS Vulcan 507C for my pistol, the 507C I currently have on my pistol will be going into an offset mount on the M5. Not sure if I want or even need a bipod, I live in a wooded + exurban environment, so there's PLENTY of shit to brace against or lay my rifle over.
Nice rifle I run pretty much the same thing AR-10 18-inch barrel Faxon with a 1 to 8 primary arms acss.
6.5crdmr is hipster 270. I still rock 7.62 as my primary. 18" is really ideal for the caliber too, though i dont currently have one in my collection
What is the best length barrel, I am trying to decide right now. I have aero precision M5 upper and lower receivers.
Hey James can you explain what they done to this ar10 that changed your mind on them?
I was just thinking that the only thing wrong with that rifle was that it wasn't in my safe lol. I am planning on getting an AR-10 and now I will be looking to set it up similar to yours.
Is that a mid length or carbine gas? What length barrel? I’m working on a project now. Thanks
Thats a cool set up, but im a sucker for the Fal, left handed charging and adjustable gas block great for shooting suppressed
I have the REC 10 setup exactly the same...almost. I'm assuming you have a 7.62 OSS flow through for it. Thanks for the video.
Yes I do!
I just flat out agree.
How much does it weigh? I am thinking of taking a 2nd run at Fighting Rifle with an AR-10. Mine is coming it at like 13lbs (Stag10, heavy barrel with VCOG 1-8x28). I'm a little concerned with being able to hold on to it all day!
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@@TacticalResponseCrew Hahaha, I know. Appreciate your candor.
I just decided to build an actual quality battle rifle. I went with an LWRC DI AR in 5.56. Vortex LPVO on Aero precision mount.
Haven't sorted a sling for it yet and I still only have 2 TQs... but I am pretty close to this one!
5.56 is not a Battle Rifle caliber
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@@TacticalResponseCrew Ahh right. I didn't catch the distinction! Thanks!
Make sure you get TRAINING.
@@TacticalResponseCrew I plan on taking 2 classes this year. I don't know if I can make it to your neck of the woods but do you have any recommendations for training in the MI/OH area?
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I like it. These definitions have some crossover for sure. But, I think of a Battle Rifle as having fixed sights, and a DMR having a magnified optic. Is that splitting hairs, IDK?
The world of 308AR's is very different from the mil-spec AR-15. Too many variations in designs with the AR-10, LR308, SR-25, DPMS patterns. You almost have to pick one style or brand and stick with it.
I love my LMT MWS, but never owned any other .308 AR. Fired a Seekins Precision in 6.5CM once, less recoil than my .308.
I have extra barrels, bolts, and other parts to keep it running, so I'm invested deep into the one design.
My current primary is an m&p ar-15 with eotech optic, owl, viking sling, and magpul furniture. Probably want an ar-10 next, but debating going long with a 338 bolt action first. Also, I want a quality ak if I can find one for a good price. Decisions decisions 😁
Only change/mission option would be just as mounts, and have a good lvpo on qd as well. Zero up and hit it either way. But homeowner on a few acres like myself. I need hallway distance, and also across large fields. Like the setup, kinda captures some variants I've used in the USMC for different applications.
I do have AR10 16" 308 . She is one heavy beast to carry around . I was thinking about getting POF REVOLUTION DI because it's pounds lighter than most AR10s.
If I had to roll out right now with do all be all Rig. It would for sure be 16" - 18" 6mm ARC or 6.5G SPR. Pounds lighter even with a Can . It's still capable of CQC and reaching out to 800 yards . External Ballistics are freaking awesome for 6mm ARC.
Carrying around 12 pound rig doesn't seem to practical for me and my application when I can have something 2 or 3 pounds lighter with good ballistics .
If I lived out west I'd for sure take 308 as do all be all . For me 6mm ARC or 6.5G can handle all my needs from CQC , Hunting and Long Range ( 800 Yards and in ) . Plus it's AR15 Platform .
Your not wrong at all . It's really nice rig . I have 308 just for hunting larger game like Elk.
Thank you for your review. I really like building my own rifles and I [hope] to build an AR10 .308 on a Aero Precision receiver set. I will ensure that I don’t make the [three mistakes] when I build it. I am curious about the GPS. Why do you have it on the gun and how do you use it?
Love to see your take on the b&t apc308 16” barrel
Thanks for all you guysz do!! We love you!
So this may sound stupid. But what is the standard mag you run? I've seen up to I believe 25 to 20 rounders. With out mentioning drum mags, what would be your standard set up ? And how would that go with the remainder of your kit ?
50 Rd drum
Great video as always. Been watching his videos for years one of the most if not the most no bullshit person with one of these gun channels
hey James I like the set up... the only thing I struggled alot back and forth and I decided differently then you did was on the iron sights. Any of my rifles that have scopes and not red dots on top I like to use 45 angled Irons. Reason is simple... If my scope or my red dot fails I am more like to remove my 45 angled red dot and put o my pocket or my bag and "dont leave behind" vs having to take off my scope and leave behind. Plus I find easier since I dont have unlimited $ to move angled red dot from gun to gun vs scope... so just my thoughts... any ideas on that? btw I never seen that tourniquet idea... pretty cool.. what kind of little bag pouch is that?
Did you watch the video?
Thank you for bringing this product to my attention, i will be purchasing one! BTW, do you think it is better or the same as the PTR91?
Wayyyyyyy better
I've got a 18 in 6.5 creedmore with a 2.5x acss optic on it currently/ I want to throw a 3.5-18x on it and take a class. but I'll likely take a class with one of my other set up rifles.
Love it, only thing I would change is the scope to a mk6 1-6. On 1 it basically is a reflex site.