Why Intel is STRUGGLING Against AMD
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2019
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Competition is always good for the consumer.
NG Utube epic isn't competition, they are just trash
Z XD yep
@NG Utube EGS's "competition" serves to show the consumers why they should use Steam and what they want and need from a game seller.
@NG Utube yeah competition is bad, m'kay.
Not to be pedantic, but if it gets too competitive, one business could go under, which could lead to a monopoly, which means prices could skyrocket. It's known as a price war, and it's good for no one.
Intel: You cant just keep adding more cores at low prices
AMD: heeheee processor go vrooooooom
😂😂😂
Me: laughting with amd 10 core processor 🙂
heehee -big processor- small processor go vroom
@@potato_men1358 Me: about to shit on Intel with my 12 core Ryzen in a week
@M A intel charges huge amounts of money for minor performance gains
Intel is wondering how to go down to 10 nm while AMD is already on 7nm
And possibly now opting towards 5nm! Haha intel probably be sweating bullets rn
so what? intel is still king in games! my i3 9100f (70€) has the same performance on all games like the ryzen 5 2600x from my brother, which costs 150€. amd has many cores, but low frequencies. no one needs 6 or more cores, escpecially if they are as low frequency as the ryzen cpus. ryzen is overrated as fuck, intel can just lean back and chill because they are still king.
@@sesch137 "No one needs 6 or more cores"
"Intel is still king in games"
Tell that to CAD-intensive works/renders, video editing, coding, & game developing users. You are an idiot if you think CPUs are for "gaming" only. AMD's ryzen is what the consumers will always choose because of their nice price-to-performance ratios
Tell me how your i3 9100f works with 3D renders compared with the R5 2600x
@@karlcorrz It's overated, yes a bit , but it still has very good performances, and even if it's good a gaming ( but not better than intel ) it's a better cpu when you use more cores, the r5 2600 is able to stream decently, where you could dream of this on the 9100
thanks to tsmc..... On the other hand Intel is doing on its own
I was buying a laptop and a guy that worked for Intel tried to sell me a laptop with Intel but the one with the AMD chip was the same price yet it had better specs. When I said that he just said "oh... "
One really notices the lack of improvements in Intel processors. My CPU is 4 years old and the new ones (from Intel ) in the same price range as it was then in no way justify replacing my old dog.
Specs aren't everything. Big/small numbers don't equate to anything unless we're talking about something running on the exact same architecture with the exact same configuration. My 9900K still outperforms all AMD processors in gaming performance, even if some of those processors seemingly have "better" specs.
@@werwerqweqwe look! Look! we have an Intel fanboy among us
@@cinnamonshake45 And you base that on what, exactly?
@@werwerqweqwe see I am a poor person... All I have is an i5-7400... And that thing is SHIT! COMPLETE SHIT! My friend's ryzen 3 which cost less than half of what I paid for this SHIT outperforms it...
When you leave the green vs blue console wars to accend to a higher plane only to see a red vs blue war
agreed lol
Green and Red fight in GPU department too.
It just makes a complete cycle
@@Fettersoffenrir nvidia will never bow down to amd. Nvidia makes gpus for nasa, amd cant compete
@@universate5332 RX 6000 Series might change that though.
you ever wonder why we're here?
thank god AMD is competing with Intel. Its good because Intel won't have such a monopoly over the CPU market and we the consumers can pay less and get a better price to performance.
vBOG this is the way I see it.
Instead of the rampant “LOLOLOLOL AMD IS KING INTEL IS DEAD”
Brand loyalty gets you nowhere.
Grumpy Man Are you talking about internet telecomm companies? If so there’s a good amount of competition in that arena, my cable bill isn’t terrible.
They may be competing but they still offer less gaming performance ... amd's 0.1% lows are trash while intel holds way more steady fps.. Price to performance can suck it... Winning is winning...
@@ogaprv Amd is not only for gaming, intel is.
@@diridibindy5704, for gaming they destroy amd, and do a good enough job at the rest also.. I own both paired with 2080's. The 3900x is a over glorified paper weight that never gets used lmao...
AMD is fighting 2 wars and still going strong
HeyItzKillerMC yea I prefer nvidia tho
whatermen when it comes to GPU’s I do as well tbh
@@HeyItzKillerMC amd should launch a gpu which is better
Then the rtx 2060 will get a price drop and I will be able to buy it
whatermen they did launch the 5600xt which is better than 2060
Also freesync monitors are cheaper than g sync obes, so thats a better deal
Kashan Akram it’s only a little better than the 2060 but NVIDIA has more features that AMD doesn’t have
Before: amd vs Intel
After: amd vs amd
Amd sucks ass
@@ISimpLegoshi Why?
AMD vs. Apple silicon?
@@alexcuevas5633 Those 2 are not directly competing
I_EAT_ASS_HIT_ME_UP Broke ass
by the time 10nm intel chips comes out...
Amd will be like - *"That's cute"*
Everyone seems to sort of ignore the "giant in the room" on which all of the big tech is banking, namely quantum computing. Using optical light will raise the upper bar on frequency from MHz we have right now, to THz, the frequency of light. 1000 times faster processing.
@@jackvernian7779 As far as we have gone, quantum computers have to be at around -250°C which is just too cold to put inside a house
Paradoxical Nightmare see the first computer and you will answer yourself
@@jackvernian7779 i think thats too advance to develop with the tecnology avaible at the moment maybe it could happen in 200 years or so.Sounds like science-fiction but could be a reality in the future.
@@sebastianballesteros8835 it's a lot closer than 200 years, give it 20-50 years and it'll be done. I study Physical Engineering & Nanotechnology and this is what the murmurs tell me.
AMD: *releases Ryzen 9*
Intel: *sad processor noises*
LMFAO
dead inside
@@ceahlauIntel outside
But but, you can run 3 nvme drives at once and have thunderbolt 3 on-board!
@@ceahlau They've been using the same core since the pentium 3, it's time for Intel to up it's game.
AMD CPU's being more impressive than Intel has happened many times in PC history. Nevertheless, Intel's market brand name has always protected them in the past.
well said sir
Truee, my stupidness got intel since it was nostalgic name and shit.
And AMD's CPU's have caught fire more than intel ones in the past and present in all of PC history.
That and their dirty business tactics
The only constant in life is change
AMD: We are introducing all new 7nm processors..
INTEL : Hey we gonna introduce all new most advanced 14+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++nm processors in 2020😂😂
Wow! Intel's tech is twice as good and has some plus signs!!! Shuddupandtakemymoney
@@boggless2771 what are you talking about?
@@raawesome3851 7nm vs 14nm. Clearly 14 is twice as good as 7, because 7x2 is 14. Dontyaknow?
@@boggless2771 except 7nm from tsmc isn't the same as 7nm from Intel. 10nm from Intel is around 7nm, since TSMC's 7nm have a 12nm io die, which consumes more power. Like you can't use a socket interchangeably, you can't use 7nm tsmc compared to 14nm Intel.
@@raawesome3851 honestly, I dont know what half of that means, but I think its still a funny joke.
And as I understand it, the 7nm and 14nm is actual transistor size, not distance between transistors, which is my best guess to what ur saying is. Feel free to explain, or dont. Im interested, but just know that the original intent was a joke.
AMD released 3 generations of processors in 3 years. Intel released the same processor for 3 years.
What generations for intel? Last 3 years is it?
More than 3 years. The current gen can date back to 2015
@Purebred Shekelberg there ya go man. I own it. Its solid. Will send plenty of frames to any graphics card you buy. And is an absolute beast in gaming and multicore work loads. Make sure you pair it with 3600mhz ram with decent timings. These 3rd gen ryzen chips thrive off fast ram.
@@sopmodtew8399 have you not listened to the video? Linus pointed it out already
@@shanghaisisigsilog8547 2lazy to watch the video,i just wanted to see the comments.
He forgot to say XBOX and PlayStation both made by AMD parts.
Intel fanboys never mention consoles, they act like gamers all use Intel CPU's with 2x 2080ti's...
@@mikem9536 I'm still using my AMD 9590 and 1080 lol
who cares, sony and microsoft pays peanuts for those console apu's anyway. i doubt amd is making much money off those. the winners here are sony and microsoft.
r0mulyni2 and yet they perform games at mostly 30fps
@@Lidoe haaaa 30fps is pushing it lol
Intel is like early Ford: They create a good production line, and focus on producing as much as possible, often leaving entire cars/chips on the cutting room floor because of imperfections, this leads to their product being not too expensive but over time their efficiency suffers and their competitors beat them.
AMD is like early Toyota: They create a production line which starts out bad but overtime they become more and more efficient, making sure they don't waste anything and they attempt to get good value for money, this leads to their products being much cheaper than the competition because they are focused on keeping their small operation cheap and efficient, eventually they are ready to upscale and the competition can't do anything because they never invested in efficiency.
What you end up with is very high quality Toyotas produced for a low cost and low cost to operate, they might not be as fast as fords but they get the job done. Meanwhile, Fords are low quality and expensive yet they can drive further and faster. With AMD what you get is many cores produced at low price, which use little power to operate and are high quality with little imperfections/bugs. Meanwhile Intel has few cores, is expensive, has low chip quality yet still beats AMD on single core performance. Eventually Toyota and AMD will outsell the competition but it'll be a few years until then.
@@Supercool12345andy What I mean is if you look at Intel chips they produce larger single cores, while AMD makes multiple cores. Both have the exact same processing power. However, if the chances of an imperfection are the same in both, say there's a 12.5% chance of an imperfection in every half square inch. Then that means if an Intel CPU is 1 square inch, one in every 2 intel CPUs are faulty... (bacause the chance of failure is at 50% for one square inch.) - this leads to consumers needing to pay for not just the CPU they got, but also the CPU that broke.
Meanwhile if AMD have 4 cores per square inch all 25% as powerful as an Intel core, and the failure rate is still at 12.5%. That means 1 in every 8 cores breaks, meaning when you buy 4 cores you only need to pay for 4 cores plus half the cost of a broken core...
If the total cost of both per square inch is $200 then the Intel core will cost $400 (Since you are paying for a working CPU and a broken one) Meanwhile an AMD CPU will cost $225. $50 for each of your 4 cores plus half the cost of a broken one.
This leads to AMD CPU's being much cheaper since they don't need to throw away entire CPU's and instead can throw away pieces. Leading to us consumers not needing to pay as much for intels inefficiencies...
The same thing happened with early Ford, an entire car could leave the line faulty so the entire thing had to be scrapped, meanwhile at Toyota, if a part broke they could just replace it, leading to the cost of their cars being lower than Fords.
facts ....you know toyota is the best because they listen to a genius american engineer edward deming the father of japan
but keep it mind that toyota is reliable but amd is not
I feel like im back in computer engineering class again...
amazing analogy
Why did this get recommended to me after Zen 3 launch, where finally AMD grabbed the Gaming crown?
Lol sams
Linus' hair looks like it was pre-rendered with a Voodoo FX card.
And his voice is from an AdLib sound card.
😂😂
'FX' is cursed
😁
Whoa blast from the past! :)
this is great for consumers. Wish there was more competition with GPUs. nvidia prices are ridiculous.
I heard somewhere Intel might get back into the GPU market around 2021, not certain
It's because NVIDIA under produces them. You'll see the price spike on a NVIDIA GPU, because it's excessively in demand and on back order. I had this issue when I was to first pick my new NVIDIA GPU. I saved up, waited a few months for them to go back in stock and the prices to go down, and I was able to put my money towards an even better one.
@@RiddlerFoto Yeah I bought my 1080 8G for $600 new as soon as the price dropped last year. They are still $900-1k+ brand new and $600+ used with almost no new stock. So dumb.
Once Navi drops expect $100-200 discounts from Nvidia
Im happy with my radeon rx580 graphics card
Meanwhile in early 2020 AMD releases 64 core Threadripper 3990x and Ryzen 9 4900HS
Literally eight core laptop with 4ghz?
One thing's for sure: AMD is still having a hard time to beat Nvidia. Intel is done, somehow I'm not interested with them anymore after seeing the Ryzen CPU. The only reason I would stay with Intel is because of Thunderbolt.
Yeah, I'd still probably take Nvidia over AMD GPUs, but that may change. AMD has some pretty good low end GPUS that offer great performance for their price.
True Reaper45 I thinks that will change after amd releasing big Navi
@@truereaper4572 When will amd release ray tracing???
Even Intel claims that its gpus will have native realtime raytracing!
Any way for higher workloads and more memory, go with quadro rtx 8000
Thunderbolt is is dated now. It requires special hardware and it's just as fast as the newest usb. (Wich is using thunderbolt tech without needing extra expensive hardware)
@@OutOfNameIdeas2 I'm using Thunderbolt 3 on my Dell Latitude tablet. Because of that port, I don't have to create a separate Windows gaming rig. I just put my Radeon 5600 XT in my AKiTiO Node Titan, and it just couldn't get any simpler.
That is why I'm looking forward for the Thunderbolt 4 in consumer-level laptops and tablets.
Amd is Red,
Intel is feeling Blue,
cause ryzen just clapped their cheeks,
with the new 3000 series cpus.
👏
Honestly credit to you that right there is an original and creative comment
Amd is green
Rolls right off the tongue
@@ThaexakaMavro Nvidia is green.
5:00 Intel may have cash in the bank, but AMD certainly has....cache in the bank ;)
Ok bad joke. I'll see myself out.
Out of the comment casino
Really good video you did with tech yes!
@@adelaide7822 Oh no! I've been found! hahhaa
Thank you though.
Lame. Yes, please see yourself out the door
@@thomasmcginnis7526 Ok...... :(
;)
1st: Intel engineers honestly never thought AMD can go 8+ cores.
2nd: Chaos at Intel's internal politic, also a bad CEO that complicates everything internally
3rd: Missed schedules, especially on their 10nm node.
4th: Skylake++ withmorecores ++++++++ is just not exciting for anyone anymore.
5th: New CEO is really willing and ready to let go CPU dominance, in exchange to "80% market share in all silicon" or whatever that means. meaning Intel will probably devote resource on something else rather than going all out to regain their x86 throne.
AMD just goes rocket boost up to 64 cores and 128 threads.
How'd you know company internals and future bets?
@@sarimkamal5649 People talk and news leaks out. If you follow closely you can pick up a lot. Plus there have been articles detailing some of it, like the fact that Intel has a bias in their hiring.
Also, AMD is cheaper than the same level of Intel CPU. With this COVID many people working from home, the AMD laptops are constantly sold out while Intel laptop still fully in stock. It's not hard to see AMD getting more market share
@@anerpos2055 No.
Intel still holds the record for higher cores.
Intel xeon phi 7902 has 72 cores and 72 threads
Came back after the Ryzen 5000 series announcement. Imagine if this Linus saw that?
Bought AMD stock at $11.24 when Ryzen 1 launched wooo
Late 2017-Early 2018? Stick with it, my dude
Bought 2 shares at $11.24 when ryzen 1 launched. Wooo?
Was expecting a more upbeat but was let down worse than a potato pc
I'm sad at myself now. I just had $350 'left over' money in my trading account, and threw that on AMD at $14. Wishing I didn't blow $25,000 on a camera now. XDDDddd :(((((
(Anyone want to buy a RED Epic-W? lol)
Got mine at $26 like a month ago.
Intel: IM THE BEST PROCESSOR IN FOR GAMING.
AMD: Hold my cores.
not the best anymore with ZEN2
Thanks for the likes. Never got so much.
Hold my price, hold my compatibility, hold my 7nm. Its a great time to be a hardware enthusiast
@@fernandoaguero2814 you like architects and hardware. You are a great person
lol
how the turns have tabled.
this sounds like the Beginning of the end of Moores law....
@mrmcphe there is a limit to the size of things
@@cessposter this number might be right even, given the influx of people for one in the tech community and also in the general world population of which a percentage goes back to my 1st point
I thought the Moore law already ended and my N2920 was nearly optimal
Intel is overpriced, AMD quality has come a long way, while keeping prices reasonable. That’s what I figure.
To a point. Like Linus said gaming is typically slightly better on Intel. But also some vr addons have issues with AMD cpus (namely HTC's wireless adapter for their vive and vive pro)
I called the rise in AMD stock when it was at 11$. Life regret for sure, especially when it hit 30+$
@@ramius5910 Are people still seriously considering paying $100 more to get a 5% performance boost in gaming while falling significantly behind in every other category? It makes no sense to get an Intel processor anymore.
@@Horible4 If youre rich, you dont have to think
@@Horible4 .... buying an i9 9900K with 8 cores is stupid. Because games only use 3 to 4 cores.
Benchmarks DO use all cores, so it looks good on paper...But is a waste for gaming.
A 4 core i9 9900K would give you almost the exact same performance in gaming. And it would cost almost half to produce.
You get CPUs like that from Intel. It's called an i5. It costs less. And you can overclock it. (if there's even any benefit)
So ideally, a 4 or 6 core CPU with high single core performance is king...in gaming...Because it costs less than a 64 core CPU, of which only 4 cores are used anyway. THAT, is bang for buck. And THAT is why Intel CPUs sell better.
AMD fans right now: *what a time to be alive*
Well to be fair ... Intel always had a trick up their sleeve . Either a straight up great move or just a cheap under the table trick .. Intel always came out on top . But now .. Things aren't looking too good .. Since the recently announced Ryzen 9 is better than intel's flagship while costing less than half ... Well that's terrible for intel .. It's a massive L for team Blue . No doubt they will bounce back ...But AMD will not be regarded as a B player anymore . And when Intel eventually solves this crisis they are in . AMD will already be miles ahead...
@@culturedsquid8442 True. If (and even if) Intel manages to manufacture 7nm, AMD will already be onto 5nm or less, as shown in their roadmap which has gone according to plan so far. This means Intel needs to jump twice as far as AMD did to have the upper hand, and even then their pricing is still absurd..
Always been happy with AMD. The low cost alone has kept me happy. ;)
Everyone should be happy right now.
its like 1999 again~
Why do I have the feeling that the battle between amd and Intel feels like pokemon groudon vs kyogre and nvidia is rayquaza.
best analogy
rgb war is causing some sadness
wth is up with rgb wars even ps,xbox,switch are rgb
Damn I guess team magma just evaporated 95% of the ocean
That Chromebook at 4:25 or around that is a budget laptop that my school uses for my grade. I recognized it immediately.
Intel: why are we losing customers?
AMD: *laughs in Ryzen 9 3900X*
People are FINALLY realizing how intel has been so scummy not that AMD is innocent
3950x*
*Laughs in 200$ 1800X*
@@williamhuynh869 AdoredTV enlightened reporting here. We, who follow the prophet known as "Jim" know the mischievous practices done in the past by both intel and Nvidia. Blessed be Tech Jesus, Tech Buddha and the Holy Tech Prophet. Amen
Computex: 3900X!
E3: *Laughs in 3950X*
"Speaking of MySpace . . . Freshbooks!"
Was wondering about that transition... I was thinking:
1 - Is Linus saying that Freshbooks is going to be like MySpace, or
2 - Having Freshbooks as a sponsor can keep LMG from becoming MySpace
I'm leaning towards option 2. 😁
That was one kick in the balls
Yeah I know. That was one masculine poem. "facebook" in the middle would've been more lyrical and poetic, but genius knew how to punch the impression in rigorous manner.
Fuck, that line really got stuck to my ear.
would be nice to see an updated version of this!
This is where state my case:
AMD is kicking Intel's ass right now, but their earnings report shows that despite their clear leg-up on Intel right now,
AMD is not producing very impressive profits for having such a favorably well-lit stage.
So, once Intel eventually figures things out, I think they will knock AMD back into submission. About 18 to 24 months.
Hi, what’s a good budget AMD cpu for a biostar motherboard, and also gpu?
I’m new at building pcs.
I think regardless of what intel does, they won't have the same market share they used to, AMD is now a serious competitor.
@@brandonporter6223 This is true, however, while AMD has been enjoying their current superiority over Intel, they haven't been producing levels of profit that I think they should be given they have been slapping Intel around for a little over a year now. And I'll extrapolate on this: AMD's current Price to Earnings ratio (P/E) 159.43, giving AMD an objective value calculation of $15.43 per share. Meaning that when Intel, and I mean WHEN Intel makes a breakthrough on 7nm, AMD will start slipping. Coupled with AMD's ambitions of going for a 5nm chip process. Everything I've learned about technology so far states that 5nm is not possible on a quantum level, and we've had pretty decent knowledge of this long before any company had made it to the point where they were actually attempting to work on such a small process form factor.
I hope AMD continues to do well, but there are several factors that could quickly change their fortune:
1. AMD is not very profitable consider their current advantages over Intel
2. AMD is working on a process that is impossible on a quantum level (When using a silicon foundation) - so if they use a new material such as Graphene or create a hybrid between Silicon and Graphene, this point may be invalidated
3. And AMD is priced for near perfection and is dependent on the outcome of the prior two points.
Now, there are points going in AMD's favor:
1. AMD could become exceedingly more profitable, thus regulating their objective value calculation
2. Intel may take the entire time between now and 2023 to get to their 7nm process, which gives AMD more time to maybe invalidate my against point #2.
3. AMD could surprise us all and figure out the mysteries behind processor chip making with graphene and effective lower the quantum limitations or transistor sizes to 1nm.
The phenomenon I'm referring to when I mention 5nm and 1nm quantum limitations for silicon and graphene respectively is called "Quantum Tunneling". An concept that behaves much like static electricity, but it isn't - where electric signals - those needed for perform logic (A Processor's sole purpose of existence), jumps tracks and nobody has any idea why this happens. But it breaks down the entire functionality of a CPU and makes logic impossible at such lithography.
@@MrEditor6000 Wow, what a great comment. However, in terms of technology, 5nm transistors were created by a research team at NEC where they fabricated the first 5nm MOSFET (in 2003 already). And in 2017 IBM had demonstrated a new process using a new design (GAAFET) instead of FinFETs that we use currently.
The technology is already there (there have been many converging technologies that have to lead to breakthroughs on the 5nm process since its inception, specifically the MOSFET node), the problem is the manufacturing challenges that come with mass-producing quality chips for consumers.
One big issue with manufacturing any chip is maximizing qualitative chip yield, and according to TSMC 5nm has a lower defect density their N7 process node at the same point in development. As of today, TSMC has already entered the production of 5nm chips. Whether this means AMD is on track with the development of its Zen 4 architecture is a different discussion. However, the question of whether or not 5nm is possible has been answered a long time ago.
As for AMD vs Intel, I don't know much about their financials and such, but I do know that AMD has a solid plan for the future, and Intel is in reaction mode. Their response to AMD's encroachment on their market share is lackluster, to say the least.
I'm definitely rooting for AMD, so I'm not completely unbias here, but Intel is losing its halo effect with a lot of consumers that it used to have. Its brand name isn't what it used to be already, so their tech will need to improve to protect their market share because right now they just can't compete with what they have.
I hope these two companies are around for a long time and are competing with one another way into the future. Competition is good for us.
@@brandonporter6223 I don't recall that the transistors themselves were the problem. I think it was the wires in general in a 5nm process that made it impossible due to quantum tunneling.
Basically it boils down to Intel's arrogance allowing AMD to make larger gains.
not entirely, its more like AMD got good at surviving with low profit margins so a shift in the industry was cheaper for them to transition to; sort of like the way Pan-Am died when fuel costs spiked
@@sadmanh0 I agree with Chen Lee if played right Intel could've used their market dominance to fund their transition and R&D. Intel however choose to double down on older design instead of a redesign from the ground up. In short they could've use their extended profit margins for better R&D but allowed AMD the time to develop their own redesign.
@chen Lee
Have you not been paying attention to these two competitors over the last 20 years? This is the same thing, just a different decade. Happens every few years where things 'flip-flop'
@@allstarwoo4 but Intel did invest on newer architectures and smaller transistors, it's just that them owning their own fabrication on top of having to make generational improvements is more complicated than AMD basically doing nothing but Zen since they didn't do shit with their older architecture for years and don't do their own fabrication.
@@sadmanh0 Yes, but Intel rather pad their margins vs R&D. On top of the fact they have been bleeding the old design with diminishing returns.
You were right about the stock.. why didnt I listen to linus stock tips 😭
somebody explain pls
Because the market was closed when he posted that video...
Could have qued a purchase, I was hesitant
It's a self fufilling prediction though
I told a friend to buy 2 years before ryzen at 6 dollars a share ........ he spent 1k now he asked me what to do I said dump any and all intel .... he said why do what I did 10 days ago I started reading the technews you read
I still have my good ole fx-6300, I use it as a heater now during winter.
Me:laughs in fx-9590😂😂😂
I have a 6300 too. Still going..
You should do a tech quickie on cpu performance, I.e. how to compare processors absent of benchmarks
Linus: Speaking of MySpace...
Me: SquareSpace!!
Linus: Freshbook!
Me: Seriously?
I went Lol
Speaking of space...
Boom, roasted
Lol rip
feels like they're making these transitions worse and worse on purpose.
I've been an Intel loyalist. Maybe it's time to jump ship to AMD. I'm starting to have full respect to AMD since 4 years
ENTRA2013 AMD was behind for a long time, Bulldozer was a flop, but now things have changed. Ryzen’s per core performance is nearly neck and neck to the Core lineup, but price is far lower.
Ive always done intel because they were superior but my next cpu might be amd
well if amd can balance the heat issue as well. is a pain to deal with it.
i might go for amd too.
@@ilenastarbreeze4978 same for me, seeing as how things are going. But like what linus is saying, there's a chance for Intel to turn this around
Ilena Starbreeze All my amd products have been inferior to my intel products so far.
The Hammer in the thumbnail is a nice throwback to 2004-2005.
What! I got a pulse way ad with Linus in the ad and I pressed on this Linus techquickie video.
Should've spent that money on development instead of lawyers and fines
Miskin mohon minta kita harga diri buat mereka bangsa untuk rakyat baik itu kerja nyata penting semoga beliau
What?
@@adamrayhan5703 stop replying english comment with your own language
@@stevx007 mind your own business man
@@cat7371 Ironically you're wrong he was telling Adam to stop talking in a different language, add "to" to his sentence after "replying" and you will see what he meant.
Did you mention Intel's shocking security vulnerabilities? And the platform cost with having to upgrade a mobo with each processor?
Michael Deneys There hasn’t been socket change for years. But yeah, it is distasteful how they purposely leave backdoors in their CPUs.
How much of a performance loss has these Intel processors taken so far?
shocking lmao... nothing shocking about it, all are fixed in latest windows 10 build or firmware and intel is still faster. coffee lake has fixes for most problems and amd zen has numerous of vulnerabilities too. alot of them affected all x86 and x86-64 which amd uses too. so, relax...
nothing. my 8700k is still better than both my friend's 2700x
m8x425 about 40-50% performance loss. So a 9900K may as well be an i7 8700K.
Threadripper 3960X: Prepare for trouble...
Threadripper 3970X: And make it double!
Ryzen 3950X: 3950, that's right!
Intel: (*sweats profusely*)
It used to be that nm size was the gate length between the Junctions of a transistor. Since manufactures have switched to FinFETs which use a more three dimensional shaping transistor sizes have more to do with marketing than any real metrology measurement.
Hey everyone, Intel here! We hope you are excited for our new 14nm++++++++++ its revolutionary!
Intel Fanboys: *cheering roars*
Average PC build user: *does nothing*
Intel Fanboys: *lose their shit faster than down Jones industrial and NASDAQ combined*
Actually, they do 14nm + 7nm to be more effective and cheap.
@@andy56duky *Dow
@@coows wat you mean zen2?
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Intel underestimated AMD. After laughing off Bulldozer (which was really, really bad after all the hype), Intel presumed that AMD was way behind. They didn't take Zen seriously since it had gone way over schedule. Suddenly with the launch of Ryzen, Intel was caught with its pants down. Since AMD outsources fab, they are much more nimble.
"Intel was caught with its pants down"
Quite literally, in the case of ex-CEO Krzanich.
just get the gtx 1650 or 1660, rtx is a waste of money
Life of Galo excuse me? I MUST have dual 2080tis, idk what your on
@@Galomortalbr might be a waste of money, but Imma get ray tracing in minecraft, so
I really don't see the bulldozer as a bad cpu architecture. It was just late too the market. It was supposed to be ready 2 years before it actually launched. Intel just released newer cpus and AMD couldn't catch up. Hype also played a negative role in benchmark reviews. I own an FX 8350 and for now I feel it is keeping up with everything I throw at it.
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AMD: **Launches Zen3*
Intel: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
AMD in 2021: 5nm
Intel in 2021: 14nm("+"*69)
AMD in 2100: 45 fm with quantum tunnel transistors
Intel in 2100: dead !
lol I am so happy not to be you. Ice Lake looks great. I can't wait to buy my wife the 25 watt laptop. As a consumer I don't need more than 4 cores. I do care about battery life. As for 20/20 I so want a 10nm Xe. I don't need to upgrade until 2021but Xe is a must have. I only need performance for gaming. So intels cpus are the best gaming cup period. nothing has changed.
@@demoncloud6147 theoretically they can't go below 4nm on traditional transistors
Because a phenomena called Quantum Tunneling will start happening at those sizes, where electron will pass even if the gate is closed
Meaning the output will always be 1 and never 0
And this is why Moore's Law is failing
@@CountShashaI believe quantum tunneling starts when you go smaller than 7nm. I'm not best informed about it but with the way things are going, transistors will have to give way to quantum computing. Until then, we'll probably be hovering around 7nm for a while.
@@SergePupko
I am not well informed either but it does happen at some point
Also quantum computing is not necessarily the only way, non traditional transistors can push it to new limits
Samsung has recently shrunk it to 3nm by using nano sheets
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Whoa! How in the hell did you post an image in the comments?
@@freddyt55555 emoji
Emojis count in the Unicode
Bam! ROASTED!
*_HA!_*
Now that AMD is working on 5nm chips...
Intel: *confused screaming*
Intel 10nm is similar to tsmc or amd 7nm
Been a year and for low- mid high pc’s amd still dominates the price charts and with some the power charts
Remember when Intel called AMD processors 'glued-together'...
Yes I remember. Your memory seems a little destorted. Models. The successors to the Core 2 brand are a set of Nehalem microarchitecture based processors called Core i3, i5, and i7. Core i7 was officially launched on 17 November 2008 as a family of three quad-core processor desktop models, further models started appearing throughout 2009. AMD fanbois pinned the glued together cores first. Than Intel fanbios turned it around on AMD fanbios. this is what your referring to lol.Dual-core processors, set to hit the market next year, offer improved performance over single-core chips, especially in multithreaded applications.
AMD's demonstration included a Hewlett-Packard Proliant DL585 server running four dual-core Opteron processors, the company says in a statement. An updated BIOS (Basic Input Output System)--the interface between a computer's hardware and operating system--was all that was required to get the 4-way server up and running with the dual-core chips, it says.
The company did not provide further details of the demonstration
@sbcontt YT Nah, they were too busy making fun of AMD's glue to notice they themselves were stuck with molasses...
yeah, and then they took 2 24-core xeons and pretty much glued them together...
Who knew Intel was joking about AMD using glue on their CPU's and it turns out its Intel who glues their IHS to their CPU 's with toothpaste and tea leafs.
@@Nemesis1ism look at the intel defense force out in full effect lmao cmon ranjeesh how much do they pay you, 2 cents per post? 5 cents? You're gonna have to try harder than that bud
Summarizing: Intel was confortable being the "king" charging whatever it wants, for they'r refresh of refresh of refresh processors not releasing anything really "new" for years, when suddenly ryzen comes out a few years back, kicked they'r butt, so now they are desperate trying to achieve that 10nnm they should reach years ago (But didn't because they where too comfortable being the monopoly for a long time selling mediocre/obsolete processors at golden price...)
Edit: Come on, its the old classic turtle vs rabbit story...
Thats exactly what I thought.
Sandy Bridge booyah
The tai pose are driving me in saying!
Linus was pretty clear that the problem is on the manufacturing end in Intel's factories. As soon as they develop whatever tech they need to manufacture properly, it will probably return to the old status quo.
@@sttate Doubtful. Intel doesn't have a way to make their cache ring work for bigger numbers of cores. On the other hand, AMD's architecture scales very well. That's why Intel is developing their own scalable technology, but we don't know anything about that.
AMD is dominating in price to performance in the higher and lower end. (graphics cards as well) They deserve the growth.
We are the process of upgrading the factory and office computers and we bought a whole bunch of AMD processor Desktops from HP due to cost savings and performance. Saved us a ton of money to upgrade to Windows 10.
Hmmm. Snapdragons in laptops.. It would be interesting to see a new CPU species in the wild.
Huawei will make it
@@joshua_v_thomas not with out arm
@@joshua_v_thomas Huawhat?
Hi have a nice day Yes with RISC-V
Check the benchmarks it's killing it Snapdragon 8x
No complaints from me. My AMD stock is doing great!
wish i would have spent more on stocks when i was in my 20's..buuuut beer seemed slightly more important at the time......who am i kidding, it still is
@@Cherubim666999 Beer gives you the courage to talk to women.
is there difference between stock and share?
@@mikem9536 imagine being straight. LoL
@@mikem9536 Money gives you women
Watching the Linus Pulseway ad before the video feels so wierd
I just got a advertisement from you playing the office guy😂
Tldr: Intel got lazy cuz AMD was struggling for awhile and now suddenly amd came back on steroids.
Not really. If Intel could've figured out the 10 nm problem, they would've taken the winds out of AMD's sails last year. It's not like they intentionally sat on their haunches there.
amd is still struggling in laptops
@@TabalugaDragon not anymore with the asus G14.
@@mukunddhar6657 why G14 specifically? the new 4000 series Ryzen is great but G14 with it's shortcomings ia really bad example.
Bad cooling(up to 95 degrees C in games), half RAM is soldered on, no webcam, the battery could be bigger, a small 14 inch screen
@@TabalugaDragon it has 10 hours of battery life, but the rest i agree with
you forgot to mention security flaws that have impacted performance
There's sadly quite a few I doubt they have yet to resolve. The problem with AMD is like with indie game devs. They're willing to patch, but not fix anything of note.
@@RiddlerFoto What AMD have to do with Intel's security flaws?
@the rougemillenial AMD is an AMERICAN COMPANY! They are just using TSMC Fabs from Taiwan, Like all the motherboard/gpu/ram any chipset companies are doing. Gosh
Delightfully sinful.
@the rougemillenial
Well actually it´s possible to do depending on how modern the generation is (at some old systems you can apparently shut off it entirely but on newer ones you can only partially kill it off but that´s it so far) but it´s a very risky process that could brick your system if you don´t follow the instructions properly.
Hopefully AMD lets you shut it off with 1st party software instead of having a 3rd party work around to do the same thing as soon as possible.
I press on a Linus video add comes up and its Linus i thought that was the video no joke
damn it was an ad i thought the video was starting : D
Did anyone else see the leaks regarding Ryzen 9 3950X?! Holy shit.... they're about to turn it up EVEN MORE
@Jimmy De'Souza nah.... Back in the day (2003-2006) amd is the way to go
@Jimmy De'Souza i dont remenber i an talking about athlon 64 for what i know they are the best processor for they era before Pentium
@Jimmy De'Souza srry for that missinfo i see that a looooonggg timeago i dont remenber exactly the article
@Jimmy De'Souza You don't even know what the actual fuck are you talking about. Right? Ryzen 9 3950X is simply the new strongest CPU in the Market.
@@icemanchambers1207 Yeah, He's blowing smoke up our asses if he thinks the Prescott was a good CPU.
AMD: [Happiness Noises]
Intel: [Disliked That]
I don't know who yet New Ulm crime of sociology
What happened to Luke ?
Something went wrong with the combination of lightning, background and hair. It looks like you kan see through the hair, even though I think it is just the light reflecting - but in the exact same tone as the background.
I just got a ad with linus in it on a video that features linus
That sponsor segue might have been your single worst, Linus.
Keep up the good work.
I came for the video title, I stayed for the sponsor segue.
Well, you just blew my mind calling it segue. I always thought it was just like those ugly electric scooters, segway.
And now AMD announced the 3rd gen of Ryzen CPUs so lets See if Intel struggles again
intel will quit. LMAO
I hope so . After a decade of incremental upgrades and price gouging . To hell with Intel
Damorellium bro, tell me that ur jokin
Apollo Smile didn’t intel bail out AMD to keep the competition? I expect the same thing from AMD they know they need the conp
Intel shills on suicide watch lmao
Good timing for me to come back to PC from having only Mac, my previous PC was on AMD as well, it was 15 years ago XD
This Linus guy should create its own youtube channel.. Seems very knowledgeable
agree, he should start a tech tips channel
lol keep boosting my AMD stocks Linus!!
i got an i7 on my pc but I'm invested in AMD lmao. The average price at 17.33 8)
How much stock of amd did u buy?
Intel have been a bully since day 1. Their stock and their investor only care about their pocket and profit margin only they never care about the client. Ask those who sign the nda!
What happend to your hair? You've been playing with electricity again?
This video is secretly sponsored by Nvidia Hairworks
Result of scrubbing his head all over after seeing a $999 apples new xdr display stands price
rtx on i guess....
Buildzoid gave him overclocking tips.
baldy covered , its work !!
Need an update video on it!
the hell man... only ad I watched in your video also had your face included
I literally got a 74 minute ad on AMD’s new CPUs from computex 😂
Same
same lol
Me too
Me too i took a screen shot!
Here the same. One fucking hour and 14 minutes. What the helll???
SUPPORT AMD intel has robbed us for many years now its time for change
Same for Apple (robbed us) its time to change
AMD will Rob you too if it gets a majority in the market
@@dr.surendrababu8703 Best to just slightly move the market so other will still think they a have a chance and work harder.
@@exosproudmamabear558 That's Market
If Intel loses AMD will also start robbing
In the few years
That's marketting
But I appreciate AMD
I had Hopes For Intel,But it is not doing the job
It has to take some loses
Now it's still want money instead of place
@@dr.surendrababu8703 intel is still way ahead of AMD in terms of the market share so lets just keep supporting AMD untill the day where intel actually is losing massive market share
Still holds up!
Loving the thumbnail!
5:35 i thought he was going to say SquareSpace
Sameee!!!
*You forgot to mention:*
*Spectre, Meltdown, Zombieload, RIDL, Fallout*
lmao
i didnt heard about Zombieload and RIDL, what happend? or what was the problem?
@@Kotoamatsukami22 It's a speculative execution vulnerability chain
no mds?:( poor intel
@the rougemillenial Damn I had never seen someone so worried about hardware level vulnerabilities. It's very weird to see them being used in real world scenarios. This specific vulnerabilities are actually very hard to use in real world scenarios as A. they are side channel attacks to leak information, B. ASLR is a thing, C. if you got an attacker's ASM code running in your server/pc, you got about 9 security layers to worry more about.
Got a pulseway ad lol
I just had an ad about linus and pulse way UHM
Intel seems to be down and dropping hard...
... Liiiiinuuuuus!!!??? what did *YOU* do?
Benito Llan Matos must’ve had to do with that one expensive core
He dropped their market share... get it? Dropped xD
Wtf is Linus 😈
Linus: I'M INEVITABLE
Benito Llan Matos
5% is on AMD now....the cheap systems!
Need hobby gear, or cheap guy hobby!
I feel like a lot of people root for AMD but no one fully expected them to make this big of a comeback.
I did... it was inevitable, with Intel's laziness and AMD's persistence and constant tech implementations... it was only a matter of time. I just wish I jumped into market sharing sooner.
Nate Harlow Intel had all the time in the world after the FX fuckup,but they didn't do jack shit,and now Ryzen 3xxx is going to destroy them.
Nah After ryzen was announced I thought this would be fully expected ! I prefer amd to intel and nvidia by quite a lot actually they tend to be more genuine of a company to its consumers. This fast though ? No that I didn't expect.
comeback is real man just like when you losing in match then comeback like nothing
I always thought they would make a huge comeback with Zen. Didn't know it'd happen this quick.
I personally feel like the I7-8700K was a wild-card. The thing got higher clock speeds than advertised, it was oddly cheap on websites like Amazon, and didn’t seem to get a lot of attention because of the X-series processors that came out around the same generation. I use one, I get 4.9 GHz at 1.1 volts off of what should be a 4.7 GHz processor, and I bought the thing for about $350 new.
1:20 Linus: AMD lacks abit behind Intel in gaming
AMD: Not anymore!
*Intel;* You cannot defeat me.
*CPU market;* I know, but he can.
*AMD's new lineup appears*
Thor ragnarok quote
Balanced, like all things should be...
I just hope they appeared properly on the laptop market as well
And suddenly intel has tricks up their sleeves
I just switched to AMD today. It was so affordable and is working amazing
still working amazing?
@@tunis4 Yup. It's a ryzen 5 2600x. Still has the stock cooler on it too. I just need a new case with better airflow
@@smoothestofbrains cool and good
@@Perseagatuna it's alright. My apartment runs really hot but hopefully I'll have a house soon
Thanks for commenting defentnety buying amd someday. not only amd is stylish and cheep, while Intel is bland and boring and expensive too! So thank you. Edit: I bought it
I for one welcome put new red overlords.
I'd still buy blue if it's on discount though
very informative..even though I was familiar with some of the issues..and no colorful language...so it's family friendly too
Intel : *exist
AMD : about to end this mans whole career
k
Laughs in Nehalem and Sandy Bridge
Overused
You wish. They won't.
@@michael04__806 fax
Intel could make the bleeding stop by dropping those prices
Their prices are a tad ridiculous. I'm already starting to go on pcpartpicker, and I get to the processor, and I'm like "wait what?! since when did they charge nasa prices?!"
Especially for the high core count. I don’t see how intel doesn’t drop them when the new amd stuff launches in July but they may very well
Keep them the same
Lol @ "nasa prices" 😂
steven4570
Beeding, they are better, what you noobs need, 9900k is good enough to run RTX 2080 cards now, why you need better????
Radeon 7 gaming laptop??? Why you noobs cry here, small brains?
@Brad Viviviyal doesn't matter it still loses market share
Lol, realizing I've logged in to MySpace more recently than Tom.
0:16 I love how he says "because its been 2 years" but this video is also 2 years long
old
what would he say if it would be such a long video