@@kgniku503 the owners of the brand are more wild, i would actually think many kudos tamed a bit the ad, chad would actually just drink milk from a t1t
I think I can say this, within the framework of the established context, without sounding too weird, right? Anyway: "Sell me more of your supplements, Milky Daddy."
The ultimate irony of Overwatch 2's failure, is that basically everything Overwatch 2 promised for PvE, was already in Battleborn, a game that for all intents and purposes, was outright murdered by coming out two weeks before Overwatch 1.
Ha. Somebody else remembers it. I always preferred Battleborn, mostly because of the PvE. To have Overwatch effectively kill it, promise to replace it, and then go back on that promise... Ugh.
Huh, having played quite a bit of that game, its ironic that a game that had no chance in hell of lasting with Overwatch, had the things that Overwatch players now want.
in which had more replayability, game modes & charming characters. from both sides ; i had more fun playing Battleborn than Overwatch when both were released
No wonder so many prefer Overwatch p*** over the actual game. It's bad enough that Overwatch 2's launch was absolutely disastrous and made micropayments more or less a necessity to get the full experience, but then they strip down PvE, the only reason to justify the upgrade, of everything but the story missions. And then they make you pay for those too. The whole thing has turned into one of Blizzard's biggest messes.
tbh the lootboxes weren't that bad in overwatch they gave you a lot of them and the currency was also pretty easy to get so you could just buy whatever you wanted anyways
This is such an NPC parrot take. The lootbox system was perfectly fine compared to predatory shit like TF2’s crate system. That shit fried my brain as a kid after I got an unusual worth like $60 and I still struggle from a gambling disorder. You can literally get hats worth THOUSANDS of dollars (I.E. a jackpot) This slimy predatory shit was also added into the game at a point in time where more than 80%+ of the playerbase were children. Not only that, but valvedrones are so braindead that to this day, they’re still defending them. Valve bootlickers are so delusional and disconnected from reality that they are literally protecting the people who invented online gambling for kids lmao. Meanwhile with lootboxes? You get one with every level and the items are worth absolutely fucking nothing. I came back to OW1 1 year before it got taken down, and after 2 months I had unlocked every single cosmetics and I was already stacking lootboxes. This is not a valve vs blizzard thing. This is a "If I have any sort of moral values, I will not defend predatory, slimy scumbags who introduced gambling for kids into a game full of children". Actually infuriating. Valvedrones should not be allowed to pass on their genes.
@tomorrowisyesterday3215 at this point just go all in on Overwatch's biggest asset Make a full-on OW dating simulator complete with detailed secks scenes
Tbh i still remember when overwatch came out in 2016 and it was so fun to play and see a community thrive! I don’t even play pvp shooters much but i had so much fun. I miss those days
I traveled for work at the time the week it came out, and I remember being teased by my coworker for being willing to pack up my entire PC tower and peripherals so I didn't miss launch day while living out of a hotel. So crazy to think I was passionate about this game after looking at it now
It's so sad how little the shareholders and owners of Blizzard care about the state of their games, just making sure there is a good monetization scheme for them to make the most money possible. If only they understood having content and not lying to fans helps them spend more money on your monetization.
I loved this game so fucking much man, i'd play at least 1-2 hours every day for 3 years straight. But when blizz stopped putting out content, my interest slowly died. One of my favoite things was the tank combos. Rein - zaria, dva - winston and my favorite orisa - hog. It was so fun when you got a 2nd tank that you synergized with. I loved it. They took it away. Making friends and talking shit in the groupfinder. Took it away. When papa Jeff left i knew it was the death of overwatch. I played it again this weekend and its just a shell of what it was.
I'm not sure if Blizzard using the LGBTQ community as a shield for pr nightmares in OW is the funniest or saddest thing I have ever seen a company do. I don't think any company has been as prolific at using them as a shield than Blizzard lol
Not to mention, that scummy tactic of using queer people as a shield made queerphobes feel comfortable spouting their bigoted bs under the guise of "criticism." Just look at the comments section under any video about OW2's Pride event that happened a couple months ago. Shit was baaaaaad.
@@justpassingby298 You're forgetting that they changed a whole map to look like a gay pride parade just passed through AND added player icons and banners for the lgtv community. I mean how could we still be mad when they're so appreciative and happy to show their pride and pride for their players too. Simply an amazing company, they really must care
It feels like every time Blizzard "listens to the community", it's a monkey paw's wish. "No lootboxes this time around!" **thunderous applause** Oh you sweet summer child.
I still fondly remember Total Biscuit’s parody of the Tracer post where he made it about Winston instead. I never knew that they admitted that the new pose was already made, but it was obvious due to the fast turn around and the fact that the pinup fits with Tracer’s Air Force background is cool. Crazy that that ended up being the least controversial OW controversy.
In all honestly, whatever the reason and turn of events that got us there, I do think the new pose is just way better. Not only does it fit the character better, its just silly and fun. Also may that beautifully cynical bastard rest in piece. Geeze I miss TB.
The thing about overwatch is that while loot boxes sucked you at least had something to work for now there’s nothing unless you spew out money for the battle pass and even then for people like me who only play a bit it’s very unfulfilling because you practically have to grind to get anything good *I can’t believe I miss loot boxes*
The lootboxes in Overwatch were always good because you could freely earn them in game at a good rate. With only a handful of exceptions, if you were a dedicated player, you could pretty easily have every cosmetic in the game only having paid for the game itself. Whilst there is an in-game currency system in Overwatch 2 to buy cosmetics, the amount of time you have to dedicate to buy a skin is far longer. That's also ignoring the bug with the Heroes menu where some skins just don't show up for some players, so if that's the one you wanted to buy I guess wait for it to be in the Shop, where you'll probably have to buy it in a bundle with other cosmetics you already own or just don't want. Lootboxes in Overwatch were so good because the general cosmetics were more about expression and variance than being a revenue source. Now they're *the* revenue source, at the cost of the game and the players.
As someone who rarely played OW the event lootboxes where always a nice welcome and sometimes I didn't play for so long, that the pity timer got ma a instant legendary. That was always a nice hook. Now I would have to grind to unlock the new characters from what I've heard.
@@e.d.5766 the main problem with the lootbox system was that you could buy them and in a market flooded with whales and children who don’t know better it always felt iffy
@@OoffoopI definitely agree, in an ideal world there would be no way to buy the lootboxes with real money. However, I think having a system where there's no need to buy lootboxes to access any content, but the option still being available and providing a secondary revenue stream for the game is a good compromise. Even though some skins were exclusively available with real purchases, having free access to nearly any skin by just grinding for a weekend meant it always felt like the few purchasable skins were an optional way to commemorate an event, support the developers or show dedication to the hero you main. It never felt like customisation was behind a paywall, but it does now.
Fun fact! The 'on fire' system was never removed, it was just hidden as you could still hear the 'on fire' voice lines in game, and they even got voice lines for the newer heros
It's always surprising to me how Blizzard was able to sell a sequel by just doing jack and shit and then charge you to include some content that was the selling point for the sequel to begin with.
When it comes to the PvE missions, Blizzard "secretly" invited some content creators [aka the ones most likely to suck up to them] to test them out. Almost everyone tried really hard not to flatout say they were mid-to-bad, but most of them heavily implied it. So yes, they want people to pay almost $20 for 3 short crappy missions.
Not even a surprise, overwatch never had any good PVE missons that weren't boring and repetitive. All the "story missions" that they came out with once a year made me want to fall asleep.
@@firewizardrunepro It's actually hilarious how excited people were for overwatch PVE. PVE was NEVER good, it was always AWFUL, so why would people ever want more? It felt so robotic and linear, and even with new missions, there were the exact same enemies over and over. Why would people even think Blizzard could make a good PVE?
the didnt imply a shit, they already told us the missions are bad, was very explicit, the only good thing they have to say are the interactions of the characters, the voice lines, which i can watch for free on youtube
I loved overwatch, I met so many friends and devoted so many hours to it, I even liked 2 enough to finish the first season but my main motivation to play was to collect the skins and when they made us pay for something we used to earn and get for free it killed my love for it, maybe I'll jump back in one-day but my heart still hurts. I truly loved overwatch unlike any other game and every other hero based fps I tried afterwards never felt the same
Y'know as a Splatoon fan I think we take a lot about our personal shooter franchise for granted. Sure our maps used to be way better, but we have, let's see... In-depth singleplayer, PVE mode with great QoL, free updates every three months with new maps and weapons, a built-in social media/art mode that doesn't blacklist you if you say "Free" and "Hong Kong" in the same sentence... Also TF2 stays winning as usual.
Why do people always compare tf2 with OW or whatever meme shooter is popular atm? I don't play tf2, but it's a total meme fest from what I've seen. The constant stream of chaos couldn't keep my attention for longer than 10 minutes. I heard like half the players are also bots? And the other half probably haven't left their room in a decade
Surprised you didn't mention the former mexican employee who wrote an entire google doc about why he quit working at blizzard, which included his work going unpaid, his fellow coworkers and his female boss treating him like he was a male stereotype and like absolute shit when he didn't even do anything, and basically he was treated so bad that before he left he was actually seriously contemplating suicide. Around the time the employee came out they just so happened to reveal that soldier 76 was gay. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out the guy was bullied into deleting the doc if you can't find it anymore. I know it's not exactly tied to overwatch itself but the fact that they revealed 76 being gay around the time the doc came out made everyone think they only revealed that to distract from this employee airing his grievances.
Harassing employee near suicide = soldier 76 is gay Sexual harassment lawsuits = Tracer is gay PvE cancelled = Pharah is gay They'll keep doing it every time lmao
I feel like the biggest scandal of OW and a possible reason behind OW2 announcement was the Hong Kong ban. During the Free Hong Kong scandal, where a winning Hong Kong player got banned and taken away all the winnings as well as 2 casters getting fired, we were also getting first harassment accusations towards Blizzard senior staff members, Blizzard reputation was getting torn apart. During that time Overwatch 2 was announced with many saying that it was done to quel the outrage of the playerbase... and I remember myself, it worked. But then Blizzard was stuck with an issue - they had to work hard on a game that was still years behind being finished with higher management refusing to allocate more people to work on the project. So in order to fill up the workforce gap, people working on OW 1 were forced to move to OW2 team, leaving a skeleton crew to maintain OW1 and causing a contest drought for last years of operation.
Please do a part 2! There's so much more to go with, like Geguri being accused of hacking by male Korean players and proving her skill, all the OWL players who got caught out as child predators/sexual abusers, LA Valiant's In 'N Out debacle, Titans losing their entire roster due to management being a bunch of pricks, so so much more
Unironically that was the greatest ad I've ever seen in my entire life, Somehow managed to out-do internet historian in terms of making me laugh hysterically Lmao
I don't say this lightly, that was the best ad i've ever seen in my life. I did not realise i was watching an ad until it was too late and your product placement had been made, associating a hollow brand with the memory of laughter.
I really want a sequel to this, because there's just so much to talk about, even if we lump all the kiddler diddlers in the Overwatch League into just one category. Perhaps one about just the OWL, from little things that are hardly controversial (like Profit, a Pro Player flipping the bird and having to pay a 1k$ fine for it) or bigger stuff like their global concept of some teams having to travel tens of thousands of kilometers while others hardly had to travel at all.
It's really funny how a multimillion dollar company can turn around and say "sorry we don't have the manpower or budget to make the game we promised" really makes me think this industry is a lost cause
What about the Mei scandal where they "made her skinny in the Chinese new year skin" (she is skinny, she's wearing a snowsuit), so they stepped in to say that that was a visual bug as seen by how her butt protrudes out weirdly from a side view. Then they "fixed it", but still kept the weird protrusion anyway.
Turning up mouse sensitivity is a really sweet way to play games imo. I've been doing it for a decade or so now. Saves your joints which matters more and more as you get older. I highly recommend folks try it if they've got the patience. You'll adjust relatively fast.
I just got this recommended to me as someone who is still emotionally invested in this mess of a game for some reason. I enjoyed the video and immediately went on to binge-watch another five. It's rare for me to like these "informative but jokey" things. But not only have you managed to not make me roll my eyes, some of this stuff even got a good, genuine chuckle out of me. That's almost up there with the Internet Historian as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the good work and thanks for the entertainment!
A bit surprised that you didn't include the whole "Pharah's actually part Native American!" bit, or just do a whole section where Blizzard retconned some inclusion into the roster as a distraction. Also, City of Heroes Scandals when?
Speaking of Geguri, I seem to remember there being some mild drama about her. She is good. Like REALLY damn good. So good that many accused her of cheating since she was just that damn accurate when coupled with the high sensitivity. I remember some posts from other OW pro players saying if she turned out to be an actual girl and not cheating they would delete their whole accounts. Then she started to stream with hand cams and yeah, she really was just that damn impressive. Unsure if said account deleting happened after.
Ow2 is an example on how to not do a "sequel". An example of corporate greed forcing devs to add things or work in stuff not needed, for leaders to be too scared to miss up that they dont committ to anything for years, then because it doesnt sell well the devs are the ones that are punished because of the higher ups mishandling of the game.
Overwatch was my favorite game that had released in years. I loved every second of it. Then it became what it is, and I haven't touched it since about 2018.
@@thejman5683one of the hardest games for new players to get into because there's no *real* casual playerbase. All the "casuals" play like sweats because they have thousands of hours invested at this point and can't *not* play the game as sweatily as possibly.
It is so cringey when people try to excuse their lying and crappy behavior with the "it was a social experiment" claim. That's like slapping somebody in the face and then saying, "It was just a prank bro!" and expecting them to just be okay with it~
It's amazing how the only thing blizzard haven't killed in the franchise is the hentai. Not for a lack of trying, as they did try to protect their character models from being used by "third parties" only to realise that it's impossible to prevent the internet from drawing porn of female characters
yeah skyrim is the same way yet its in game (at least on PC), like half the armor replacers make your armor look like something you would see in a porn film instead of armor, its even worse for me because I mostly play female characters. it doesn't bother me all that much, the fanbase is like 90% horny teenagers, also it can somewhat fit in with the lore, while in the games sex is only ever illuded to they have books like "the lusty argonian maid" that are practically softcore erotica, also there is a story about vivec where she (or he... or it... I might be an expert on the elder scrolls but I still do not pretend to fully understand vivec although that is partly by design, like dragonbreaks or the god head) gets a "milk finger from a fish, also there is a necromancer in skyrim (i think she is in hjalmarch but don't quote me on that) who has been bringing back dragur to bang, when you encounter her she has a unique voice line that goes something like "nice another little plaything, kill his ass" if your character is male, if your character is female she says something else entirely (I don't remember what off the top of my head), also like half of the works of Michael Kirkbride (technically they are fan fiction but he used to be the lead writer for the elder scrolls so they should be taken more seriously) have some sexual elements in them.
Even if they lock the models... Yeah, it's a fools errand. Like seriously. Those renderers, riggers, animators and artist would remake/create those models from scratch to be even better and THICCER.
@@jakobofcincy pretty much yeah, in skyrim either you go vanilla, immerssive, or "immerssive"... Just depends on what people want. (So I kinda get it why peoplelike those body, hair, high poly mods, "those mods" and animation mods... since you can practically just make those "videos and stuff" anytime)
Words cannot describe how infuriating the release of Overwatch 2 was to me as a casual player. I was never competitive, but I got a lot of enjoyment out of Overwatch. Playing a few rounds of Elimination or Capture the Flag was my way of unwinding after a stressful day of school. Was I good at it? No, but I was having fun. So I learn about Overwatch 2's upcoming release and I'm intrigued, but content to keep playing the version I already had. Then, one day, I pop my copy of game disk into my Xbox and am greeted with Overwatch 2. Interesting. My stats and cosmetics don't carry over. A bit frustrating but I could put up with a bit of a wait to get them back. There's a Battle Pass now and the new heroes are locked behind it, and I'm not entirely sure of this but the default roster feels smaller. You've got to be fucking kidding me. And then I find out the thing has been made free-to-play. The game I'd spent actual, real-world money to get a physical copy of, was now a free download on the Xbox game store. I could not get any enjoyment out of Overwatch 2 at launch. Like, even the arcade modes I spent so much time on just weren't fun anymore, so I dropped the game. Learning about the cut PvE content just now hurts so much. I feel bad for the fans who were actually anticipating this game leading-up to launch, that must have been devastating.
My favorite part of it becoming free to play was how they gave NOTHING to the people who had the paid version. TF2 at least gave a unique item to players who bought the paid version
I used to play this game a lot back in the day, but quite after some balance changes made my favorite characters play either different or flat-out unplayable, plus the competitiveness of other players were just too high for me to catch up. The only joy I could still get was with custom games, but after people stopped joining and the UI got more cluttered, I moved on. And after seeing the launch of 2, I'm glad I got out when I did.
As soon as they fucked with Roadhog's combo, I was out. That & I absolutely refuse to play games that constantly shift metas to keep their playerbase interested. It's actual cancerous brainrot stuff.
Hanamura alone is better than any of the push maps. 2cp was unironically my favorite game mode. yeah getting stuck on attack going for the second point was annoying sometimes, but it felt fair in comp. Push is just a chore when the entire enemy team is respawned and back on point before the robot even gets to the midpoint. You have to win 3 consecutive team fights just to take any sort of lead, and there is NO plan of attack when wasting any time to coordinate loses so much advantage, its just TDM disguised as an alt escort. Short term retention is the only thing they're concerned with. Overload new players with shiny skins, lock them out of heroes, take stupid measures to reduce toxicity (i made so many homies during end of match and LFG), and give them the simplest gamemode yet (hard to believe that was even possible). It feels pay to win when its not, which might actually be worse than real pay to win. And all of the awe new players get is from a third person perspective. new players don't want to see someone else do something cool while their restricted to like 10 heroes, the point of the diverse roster was so that anybody could pick it up and play a character that resonates with them right away. This also stunts the growth of anyone starting out. Half the game is understanding matchups and hero counters. The community is being absolutely murdered for a few extra bucks. Who the hell thought blizzard would succeed after the merge with activision? blizzard is a company known for keeping games alive for a decade+ while activision can barely keep a game running for 1 year. I don't want overwatch CODified and still be promised a good outlook into the next years of service. I stopped playing when I realized I'd have to shell out 20 dollars consistently for stuff that would be considered just an event mode for OW1. The game was released as a "sequel" but has less content and only a participation trophy for veterans which is skins EVERYONE got immediately.
Honestly for the tracer dump truck one I thought they meant the time people forget that tracer has a flat backside and accused the devs of flattening it, mistaking the original for the Phub version
Blizzard hiring John Cena to do promo work for the upcoming Overwatch Story Missions is perfection: he can help heal Blizzard's relationship with the CCP and get Chinese players back
Whenever I take a break from playing 10+ y.o. single-player games on retired consoles, I wonder if I'm missing out anything by not playing the latest online multiplayer FTP game and your videos are there to let me know that I'm not.
I’ve only recently stumbled onto this channel and I’ve been binge watching all the videos like crazy. This stuff is so well put together and incredibly entertaining. Keep up the good work man! Can’t wait to see more.
And then there's the flub over the character ages. Since they dropped the guy who kept track of the lore, they have characters who are technically the same age, but when people did the math, character (A) would be 18 going through an event, while characters (B) and (C) would be 7 and 26 somehow. My favorite was a character that went through several military groups to deal with the robot uprising. With her new age, she did stuff like join their version of the Seals at something like 14 years old....
Very well structured and highly informative. I only played Overwatch for a short while, it didnt qute scratch the itch that TF2 did, for me. Also the ad was superbly implemented! I applaud you, Mr. Kudos.
ironically, the overwatch loot boxes were probably one of the most fair version of the lootbox. Every event, you could realistically get every skin by just playing without spending a dime. As you earned more skins and items, you got currency quicker so you can easily buy the rest of the skins you missed out or wanted. This is why they cannabalized this currency for OW2 release because Blizz knew that this system would not make them money anymore for being too player friendly.
Very few people greatly disliked OW1's lootbox system. You got free stuff for playing (actual cool stuff, not just dumb sprays or w/e). What they greatly disliked was how infrequently more content was added and longtime players ended up just having mass amounts of currency with nothing to spend it on. The lootboxes were very fun to open, seeing 3 yellow beams was about as hype as you could get in the game.
I think a lot of it was just how egregious other games were, which garnered every loot of system a lot of hate. It peaked around the time of the battle front 2 stuff (I think that was the name, it was the star wars game with the "sense of pride and accomplishment" reddit post). The boxes and events singlehandedly pulled me back to the game religiously until they slit the game's throat like cattle.
That's not true. I agree with what you think about lootboxes, but that was not the common sentiment at the time. People loathed lootboxes and talked about them like Kaplan himself was breaking into your home and robbing you at gunpoint
If they simply changed it so that lootboxes were more readily available, but kept the new money shop to directly purchase items, that'd be a good balance between old and new imo. You have free lootboxes. You're guaranteed something, might not always be what you wanted but you might get a cool skin that'll get you to try out a new hero, or you can use premium currency to directly purchase the item you want. Hell, they can keep the battle pass if they want, just actually make it function like every other battle pass (where completing the premium track gives enough currency to buy the next battle pass, with some left over) But Blizzard didn't want a good idea. They wanted to hook in the whales.
I remember buying overwatch 1 in 2017-2018 (can't remember the exact year) and I didn't spend any extra cash to get loot boxes/in-game currency. Overwatch 1 gave tons of opportunities to acquire a loot box with daily/weekly playlists you could play to earn one. I can't remember the exact amount, but I had a decent number of legendary skins (haven't logged on to Overwatch 2, and don't intend to, so I have to go off of memory).
I remember thinking overwatch 2 was just pointless when I heard about it, and I’d rather stick to 1. Then they shut down the servers and I was pissed. I heard about all the additional micro transactions, the atrocious battle pass, and how everything in the second game could have been an update in the first game, cementing my stance that I’ll never touch Overwatch 2. Watching this, it just makes me really sad and I honestly wish I could play Overwatch 1 again, I miss meeting people in games, I miss socializing in the custom games, I even miss getting into arguments over the mic. I miss THE Overwatch.
Its remarkable that they fumbled such a big game so hard. If you weren't around for it's release era, it was so huge that it warped the scene around itself. Games like Battleborn and Gigantic were being accused of copying OW for clout and were largely ignored because of OW, and now Blizzard has pissed it all away. It's amazing how badly they fucked it
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the Blitzchung incident or them renaming McCree after Blizzard's massive toxic work place scandal. Although, I suppose it could have potentially doubled the video's run time. Or should I look forward to a part 2 for a game with more scandals than good updates? Edit: I forgot Blitzchung was Hearthstone, not Overwatch. Got confused because Blizzard has so many scandals. That being said, I did remember another one about an Overwatch pro player saying he was so convinced Geguri was cheating that he'd quit if he was wrong, only to be immediately proven wrong when she did a handcam stream.
I'm not surprised how OW2 turned out. The game felt like it were a set of keys being jingled in front of a baby to stop it crying, only the keys were OW2 and the baby was crying because Blizzard back stabbed Blitzchung for his Hong Kong comments.
Just to round it out, Punisher masqueraded as Ellie because the team had previously rejected him as Punisher, so he tried to see if it would change if he was a girl. Also surprised that you never mentioned Sinatraa. Kinda grim but pretty inarguably the biggest scandal in the pro scene, with only ChipSa even coming close
When people go on posts and tell people to stop whining about the PvE and be grateful, it just tells others that you have no idea what you're talking about if you're out here defending a billion dollar company like they need that money or are allowed to have excuses on why the promised PvE experience won't be delivered.
The sensitivity thing is stupid, cuz I once set my sensitivity up high and it was frustrating. Not on overwatch, but on TF2. It caused my aim to falter, shots to miss, ect.
I miss 2016 Overwatch. I love Overwatch. It still has some of the best representation in gaming. The character designs are REALLY cool and feel great to play. Blackwatch was easily my most favorite event the game had. The lore felt interesting, and the locations felt varied and interesting. I especially love the Pixar-quality animation videos that were made for the game. It felt like a franchise that everyone could enjoy. It's an absolute shame how poorly Blizzard has treated this game. I want to play it, but after Blizzard's many scandals, i just cant bring myself to play it, including but not limited to: 1. The Blitzchung incident (still love that Mei was a symbol for the Free Hong Kong movement) 2. Drip-fed content updates for YEARS 3. The Activision/Blizzard sexual harassment controversies 4. The nightmarish battle pass system that made loot boxes look good 5. The cancelled PVE RPG mode, as well as its shoehorned three missions being sold for $15
Retribution (Blackwatch) and Junkenstein's Revenge (Halloween terror) was the most fun I've ever had with Overwatch no matter how many times it was recycled over the years. Even without any talents I replayed the hell out of it over and over again pretty much every other day. I used to be excited for cinematics and more lore, if you told me during 2017-2019 that Overwatch would be making short anime series - I'd lose my mind from excitement.. But right now - I'm not even playing a game because with a new team I always have questions and paranoia about "what will they decide to cancel or retcon next", "this team is full of new people that had nothing to do with the original" or "what next content they will rush so they can cover-up the next blizzard drama". The new direction is so confusing, all of these changes and effort so they can justify their move to 5v5 + rushing out a sequel, altering a PVE sequel into a pvp game that they have to rework an entire roster for, redesigning many old maps for the same reason, putting focus on creating all those filler cosmetics for Battle Pass and Shop over actual in-game content. It sucks that Overwatch went from being a GOTY 2016 to having a sequel that is basically on life-support.
(20:30) While I will not disagree that the pose is sexualised. The stupidest argument for it being sexualised was someone claiming that the "legs are pointing towards the butt, putting the focus on the butt". Almost everyone's legs connect below the butt ... that's how a human looks like. There's cherrypicking, and there's this kind of comment. Someone could probably find that video on UA-cam.
Was listening to this in the background while working, can confirm that at 9:02 I was verbally flashbanged thinking that a regular ad had started to play...
no they deserve what they get, a shitty game that doesnt work and isnt what they were promised actiblizz is still the major criminal in all this and deserves the worst, gamers are just mindless animals incapable of critical thought you dont wish eternal misery on a dog cause it got excited and bit you, you just give it a light punishment and go about your day gamers cant help themselves they lack the frontal lobe that deals in things like higher cognition and fully formed thoughts
i remember the first season of OWL was pretty dang fun to watch. Then the ''GOATS'' meta happened and suddenly it became to most boring ass competitive game you can ever tune into on twitch and Blizzard just decided to do nothing about it for like years. Then 2020 finished the league off.
The state of the game is so abysmal rn that I wouldn't mind an OW classic of some form. The 6v6 gameplay was so much more kinetic, chaotic and fun while still being plenty skillful. They have forced the game into such a boring overly competitive state that it feels more like valorant than tf2. It's also a feat to make a microtransaction system so bad that players miss lootboxes, genuinely impressive.
Maybe it was too cynical of me, but as soon as i saw them announce "overwatch 2" i figured it was gonna fail really hard. Just looking at how mismanaged and stale the first one was and all the lofty promises they made there was really too small a chance it would actually turn out well.
3:39 - I don't think it's immediately "misogyny" when someone just wants to find out the truth when something shady is going on. ... But I'm not ruling out the possibility that it can be a motivation for some.
The reddit thread about Dunkey's video bashing OW2's "beta" (which was full of people getting mad at him and "It's only a beta its gonna get fixed in the release" copium) has one comment that said one of the truest things ever said about the video game industry: "How come game communities are always in denial when things are looking bad? *Game is delayed: It's ok! Miyamoto once said... *Leading developer leaves: This is normal! People leave studios they've been with for years in the middle of the production of the sequel to their greatest success all the time! *Beta is disappointing: Guys! Its just a beta! Everything is going to be different between now and release! *Launch is disappointing: It's ok, games never launch 100% ready these days! They'll fix everything and add a whole bunch of content soon! *3 months after launch: WTF?! WHY IS THE GAME SHIT?! HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?! You'd think Duke Nukem Forever, Watch Dogs, The Division, No Man's Sky, Fallout 76, Cyberpunk 2077, Battlefield 2042, Halo Infinite Etc. etc. etc. would have taught people a lesson already. Nope. Gamers just mindlessly preorder, stay in denial, and rage at anyone who's skeptical. Only when it's too late do they realize they got scammed, but then their money is gone. And then they have the audacity to wonder why the game industry is so predatory and low effort these days. At this point I don't even blame the game studios for taking advantage of their customers, because their customers are idiots who never learn their lesson."
Dunkey always sees the forest through the trees. As far as buying new games go, I'll either lower my expectations or wait until the next big Steam sale to find it. Most recently, Remnant 2 came out half-baked with severe optimization issues. Since I lowered my expectations beforehand, I wasn't surprised when I got treated to choppy gameplay and outright crashes. People defended it the whole time, even claiming since they didn't personally see any issues that means everyone else must be running a garbage rig. The game has been patched a couple times since launch, but its still not completely stable, and there's already big balance and QOL issues that people still defend. At least there's no microtransactions, I guess... Modern masterpieces are still being released, thankfully. Just look at Pikmin 4, Deep Rock Galactic, Yakuza LAD, or Monster Hunter: World/Icebourne. It's really too bad people keep crawling back to EA, Ubisoft, and Blizzard.
True. Genuinely. Unless these kind of people learn this, these things will keep on happening. There's no point to preordering anyway other then bragging rights that "you were one of the first" to get it. If anything it's just a gamble with your money if the game will work at all. "Oh but it supports them!" Oh yeah lemmie support shitty practices by spending my money on a game before it even releases further encouraging companies that do this shit to continue doing it instead of improving. And oh yeah how could I forget that a poor multi million company absolutely needs this kind of support! The poor poor CEO must be so sad only able to buy 3 yachts that month!
@@notapplicable6985 Cyberpunk never became the game it was promised to be, people just forgot what the promises were because Edgerunners was a good show and the game wasn't a broken piece of shit by then
the over the shoulder gaze isnt a "hey look at my great ass", its "Im so bad ass, I dont even need to face you completely, as I pity you". if you are sexualizing Tracer, thats on you bro, not on the animation dept. its literally the pose equivalent of walking away from an explosion in an action movie.
That whole first segment is like a fever dream. A team fired someone, so someone went "Look, I will pretend to be a girl, and you will hire me, problem solved?" And they went "Sure, yeah, lol" And the internet, very much justifiably so, went "isnt this the most sus shit?" Then the team and the dude basically dug their own graves, had to admit to the internet having been right from the get-go, and promptly gave female overwatch players a big middle finger by then claiming that the player wasnt fired because he had lied and pretended to be a girl, but because "People only either hated her cuz girl or loved her cuz girl"? I knew there was a reason I never cared about professional overwatch.
3:40 I understand and agree with the point you're trying to make, but the entirety of Reddit culture is obsessing over trivial things and being incredibly toxic over it
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I think I can say this, within the framework of the established context, without sounding too weird, right? Anyway:
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"Bops a Drom Shell" 16:10
You forgot about the oppress and destroy Hong Kong movement China started and blizzard endorsed
The ultimate irony of Overwatch 2's failure, is that basically everything Overwatch 2 promised for PvE, was already in Battleborn, a game that for all intents and purposes, was outright murdered by coming out two weeks before Overwatch 1.
Ha. Somebody else remembers it. I always preferred Battleborn, mostly because of the PvE. To have Overwatch effectively kill it, promise to replace it, and then go back on that promise... Ugh.
TF2 created Mann VS Machine, a mode that was exactly what OW2 pve was supposed to be before the first game was formally announced.
Huh, having played quite a bit of that game, its ironic that a game that had no chance in hell of lasting with Overwatch, had the things that Overwatch players now want.
in which had more replayability, game modes & charming characters.
from both sides ; i had more fun playing Battleborn than Overwatch when both were released
Gosh...that game was so painful to watch die. I played both it and Overwatch and much preferred Battleborn's characters, playstyle and PVE focus
No wonder so many prefer Overwatch p*** over the actual game. It's bad enough that Overwatch 2's launch was absolutely disastrous and made micropayments more or less a necessity to get the full experience, but then they strip down PvE, the only reason to justify the upgrade, of everything but the story missions. And then they make you pay for those too. The whole thing has turned into one of Blizzard's biggest messes.
You sure got the first part right.
I haven't played since that happened.
Yup, if new characters werent locked behind the battlepass, I wouldnt care nearly as much as I did about the cancelled PvE.
The game had so much promise upon launch, now it's just the most popular category of cgi smut. Not complaining about the last part, thought.
FYI, the game is releasing on steam in 2 days, voice your concerns in the reviews
you are telling me Blizzard has scandals?
No, not at all
*surprise pikachu face*
Noooooo what?
Naaaah never
Blizzard IS scandals
I can't believe Blizzard fumbled their monetization scheme so hard it made me miss lootboxes
tbh the lootboxes weren't that bad in overwatch they gave you a lot of them and the currency was also pretty easy to get so you could just buy whatever you wanted anyways
Overwatch was the one game where I didn't mind the lootboxes at all
@@StefantheFox9what they should have done is kept loot boxes via level up, and sold very generous amounts of currency instead of loot boxes.
lootboxes were good in ow1 because you didn't need to buy them
This is such an NPC parrot take. The lootbox system was perfectly fine compared to predatory shit like TF2’s crate system. That shit fried my brain as a kid after I got an unusual worth like $60 and I still struggle from a gambling disorder. You can literally get hats worth THOUSANDS of dollars (I.E. a jackpot)
This slimy predatory shit was also added into the game at a point in time where more than 80%+ of the playerbase were children. Not only that, but valvedrones are so braindead that to this day, they’re still defending them.
Valve bootlickers are so delusional and disconnected from reality that they are literally protecting the people who invented online gambling for kids lmao.
Meanwhile with lootboxes? You get one with every level and the items are worth absolutely fucking nothing. I came back to OW1 1 year before it got taken down, and after 2 months I had unlocked every single cosmetics and I was already stacking lootboxes.
This is not a valve vs blizzard thing. This is a "If I have any sort of moral values, I will not defend predatory, slimy scumbags who introduced gambling for kids into a game full of children". Actually infuriating. Valvedrones should not be allowed to pass on their genes.
Activision Blizzard on their way to make Valve look like a communicative, engaged company that provides regular content updates for their games
Overwatch 3 confirmed?!?
@@kgniku503 overwatch s*x updated would hype everyone's
@tomorrowisyesterday3215 at this point just go all in on Overwatch's biggest asset
Make a full-on OW dating simulator complete with detailed secks scenes
@@camoking3609Featuring a new 3-hour unskippable scene featuring Bastion
@@QuantemDeconstructorand Reinhardt??? 😍
Tbh i still remember when overwatch came out in 2016 and it was so fun to play and see a community thrive! I don’t even play pvp shooters much but i had so much fun. I miss those days
I traveled for work at the time the week it came out, and I remember being teased by my coworker for being willing to pack up my entire PC tower and peripherals so I didn't miss launch day while living out of a hotel. So crazy to think I was passionate about this game after looking at it now
then they releasaed the ranked ladder and everything slowly went ot sht.
It's so sad how little the shareholders and owners of Blizzard care about the state of their games, just making sure there is a good monetization scheme for them to make the most money possible. If only they understood having content and not lying to fans helps them spend more money on your monetization.
I loved this game so fucking much man, i'd play at least 1-2 hours every day for 3 years straight. But when blizz stopped putting out content, my interest slowly died. One of my favoite things was the tank combos. Rein - zaria, dva - winston and my favorite orisa - hog. It was so fun when you got a 2nd tank that you synergized with. I loved it. They took it away. Making friends and talking shit in the groupfinder. Took it away. When papa Jeff left i knew it was the death of overwatch.
I played it again this weekend and its just a shell of what it was.
FYI, the game is releasing on steam in 2 days, voice your concerns in the reviews
I'm not sure if Blizzard using the LGBTQ community as a shield for pr nightmares in OW is the funniest or saddest thing I have ever seen a company do. I don't think any company has been as prolific at using them as a shield than Blizzard lol
The gays tend to gobble up any attention, so it was a safe bet.
You mean saying a character is gay isn't a good way to respond to sexual harassment?
It was funny how often they did it, and sad at how well it often worked at appeasing a good portion of the community.
Not to mention, that scummy tactic of using queer people as a shield made queerphobes feel comfortable spouting their bigoted bs under the guise of "criticism." Just look at the comments section under any video about OW2's Pride event that happened a couple months ago. Shit was baaaaaad.
@@justpassingby298 You're forgetting that they changed a whole map to look like a gay pride parade just passed through AND added player icons and banners for the lgtv community. I mean how could we still be mad when they're so appreciative and happy to show their pride and pride for their players too. Simply an amazing company, they really must care
The story mission costed 15 dollars to play, per friend who you wanted to play it with.
Someone seriously thought this was a good idea
And this only covers a pack of 3 story missions with little value for replay
Take a shot whenever someone invokes Social Experiment after being caught trying to deceive
Bro my liver would kill me.
It feels like every time Blizzard "listens to the community", it's a monkey paw's wish. "No lootboxes this time around!" **thunderous applause**
Oh you sweet summer child.
I still fondly remember Total Biscuit’s parody of the Tracer post where he made it about Winston instead. I never knew that they admitted that the new pose was already made, but it was obvious due to the fast turn around and the fact that the pinup fits with Tracer’s Air Force background is cool. Crazy that that ended up being the least controversial OW controversy.
RIP TB. At least he didn't have to see this shitscape circus.
Jaltoid made an entire animation about it and pointed out how the initial complaint was mildly sexist for implying women can't be proud of their body.
@@theotherjared9824
Holy fuck I remember Jaltoid! Did they ever come back?
In all honestly, whatever the reason and turn of events that got us there, I do think the new pose is just way better. Not only does it fit the character better, its just silly and fun. Also may that beautifully cynical bastard rest in piece. Geeze I miss TB.
Looking back on it, the Tracer victorypose controversy in the beta was a sign of things to come.
those things being the "dedicated" fans
@@totalhydration5240dear god
The thing about overwatch is that while loot boxes sucked you at least had something to work for now there’s nothing unless you spew out money for the battle pass and even then for people like me who only play a bit it’s very unfulfilling because you practically have to grind to get anything good
*I can’t believe I miss loot boxes*
The lootboxes in Overwatch were always good because you could freely earn them in game at a good rate. With only a handful of exceptions, if you were a dedicated player, you could pretty easily have every cosmetic in the game only having paid for the game itself. Whilst there is an in-game currency system in Overwatch 2 to buy cosmetics, the amount of time you have to dedicate to buy a skin is far longer. That's also ignoring the bug with the Heroes menu where some skins just don't show up for some players, so if that's the one you wanted to buy I guess wait for it to be in the Shop, where you'll probably have to buy it in a bundle with other cosmetics you already own or just don't want.
Lootboxes in Overwatch were so good because the general cosmetics were more about expression and variance than being a revenue source. Now they're *the* revenue source, at the cost of the game and the players.
these lootboxes could be earned and came in plenty, so yeah, i miss them because they were in all fairness, """good"" lootboxes.
As someone who rarely played OW the event lootboxes where always a nice welcome and sometimes I didn't play for so long, that the pity timer got ma a instant legendary. That was always a nice hook. Now I would have to grind to unlock the new characters from what I've heard.
@@e.d.5766 the main problem with the lootbox system was that you could buy them and in a market flooded with whales and children who don’t know better it always felt iffy
@@OoffoopI definitely agree, in an ideal world there would be no way to buy the lootboxes with real money. However, I think having a system where there's no need to buy lootboxes to access any content, but the option still being available and providing a secondary revenue stream for the game is a good compromise. Even though some skins were exclusively available with real purchases, having free access to nearly any skin by just grinding for a weekend meant it always felt like the few purchasable skins were an optional way to commemorate an event, support the developers or show dedication to the hero you main. It never felt like customisation was behind a paywall, but it does now.
Fun fact! The 'on fire' system was never removed, it was just hidden as you could still hear the 'on fire' voice lines in game, and they even got voice lines for the newer heros
It's always surprising to me how Blizzard was able to sell a sequel by just doing jack and shit and then charge you to include some content that was the selling point for the sequel to begin with.
When it comes to the PvE missions, Blizzard "secretly" invited some content creators [aka the ones most likely to suck up to them] to test them out.
Almost everyone tried really hard not to flatout say they were mid-to-bad, but most of them heavily implied it. So yes, they want people to pay almost $20 for 3 short crappy missions.
Not even a surprise, overwatch never had any good PVE missons that weren't boring and repetitive. All the "story missions" that they came out with once a year made me want to fall asleep.
@@firewizardrunepro It's actually hilarious how excited people were for overwatch PVE. PVE was NEVER good, it was always AWFUL, so why would people ever want more? It felt so robotic and linear, and even with new missions, there were the exact same enemies over and over. Why would people even think Blizzard could make a good PVE?
@@yveltalsea because blizzard has primarily made pve games for the past decade and a half
@@yveltalseaBecause Blizzard could make decent-good PvE games. They just love money more than quality
the didnt imply a shit, they already told us the missions are bad, was very explicit, the only good thing they have to say are the interactions of the characters, the voice lines, which i can watch for free on youtube
I loved overwatch, I met so many friends and devoted so many hours to it, I even liked 2 enough to finish the first season but my main motivation to play was to collect the skins and when they made us pay for something we used to earn and get for free it killed my love for it, maybe I'll jump back in one-day but my heart still hurts. I truly loved overwatch unlike any other game and every other hero based fps I tried afterwards never felt the same
You have a problem bro
@@ferhadsemseddinli3293 we see in others what we hate in ourselves
"I've met so many -friends- hentai addicts."
@@jffry890 you say that like it's a bad thing
You ENJOYED the loot boxes in Overwatch 1??
Y'know as a Splatoon fan I think we take a lot about our personal shooter franchise for granted. Sure our maps used to be way better, but we have, let's see...
In-depth singleplayer, PVE mode with great QoL, free updates every three months with new maps and weapons, a built-in social media/art mode that doesn't blacklist you if you say "Free" and "Hong Kong" in the same sentence...
Also TF2 stays winning as usual.
Why do people always compare tf2 with OW or whatever meme shooter is popular atm? I don't play tf2, but it's a total meme fest from what I've seen. The constant stream of chaos couldn't keep my attention for longer than 10 minutes. I heard like half the players are also bots? And the other half probably haven't left their room in a decade
@@Mephitinaebecause tf2 is and always will be the best multiplayer shooter
"tf2 stays winning as usual" WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A MAJOR UPDATE IN LIKE 5 YEARS FYM WE'RE WINNING ☹️
@@dormitory650idk this is the biggest update we've gotten since jungle inferno
@@Tubuxis You remind me of a kid I knew in the 90s who said "Doom is the best game in the world and always will be"
Surprised you didn't mention the former mexican employee who wrote an entire google doc about why he quit working at blizzard, which included his work going unpaid, his fellow coworkers and his female boss treating him like he was a male stereotype and like absolute shit when he didn't even do anything, and basically he was treated so bad that before he left he was actually seriously contemplating suicide. Around the time the employee came out they just so happened to reveal that soldier 76 was gay. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out the guy was bullied into deleting the doc if you can't find it anymore. I know it's not exactly tied to overwatch itself but the fact that they revealed 76 being gay around the time the doc came out made everyone think they only revealed that to distract from this employee airing his grievances.
I can't find anything about that but if you have a name or a link I'd be interested in looking into it
wait is the name of the employee known? i remember the soldier 76 thing happening during some controversy but i never heard about this
Harassing employee near suicide = soldier 76 is gay
Sexual harassment lawsuits = Tracer is gay
PvE cancelled = Pharah is gay
They'll keep doing it every time lmao
@@torvasdh"Break Glass Ceiling In Case of Controversy"
@@torvasdh they keep doing it because it keeps working lmao
Guy at Blizcon: “ no one will be left behind”
Overwatch 1 players: are left behind
I feel like the biggest scandal of OW and a possible reason behind OW2 announcement was the Hong Kong ban.
During the Free Hong Kong scandal, where a winning Hong Kong player got banned and taken away all the winnings as well as 2 casters getting fired, we were also getting first harassment accusations towards Blizzard senior staff members, Blizzard reputation was getting torn apart. During that time Overwatch 2 was announced with many saying that it was done to quel the outrage of the playerbase... and I remember myself, it worked.
But then Blizzard was stuck with an issue - they had to work hard on a game that was still years behind being finished with higher management refusing to allocate more people to work on the project. So in order to fill up the workforce gap, people working on OW 1 were forced to move to OW2 team, leaving a skeleton crew to maintain OW1 and causing a contest drought for last years of operation.
This is what made me refuse to give Blizz my money ever again. I regret nothing!
Please do a part 2! There's so much more to go with, like Geguri being accused of hacking by male Korean players and proving her skill, all the OWL players who got caught out as child predators/sexual abusers, LA Valiant's In 'N Out debacle, Titans losing their entire roster due to management being a bunch of pricks, so so much more
Missing the xqc and banning of pepega emote to actual gay slur being toss around against Muma.
Oh brother there is so much more I can cover on this, do not worry
Or better yet, make an Overwatch's many scandals 2 that will be the exact same stories, but remove DJ Khaled one
I FORGOT ABIUT IN N OUT LMFAO
Unironically that was the greatest ad I've ever seen in my entire life,
Somehow managed to out-do internet historian in terms of making me laugh hysterically
Lmao
I don't say this lightly, that was the best ad i've ever seen in my life. I did not realise i was watching an ad until it was too late and your product placement had been made, associating a hollow brand with the memory of laughter.
I really want a sequel to this, because there's just so much to talk about, even if we lump all the kiddler diddlers in the Overwatch League into just one category. Perhaps one about just the OWL, from little things that are hardly controversial (like Profit, a Pro Player flipping the bird and having to pay a 1k$ fine for it) or bigger stuff like their global concept of some teams having to travel tens of thousands of kilometers while others hardly had to travel at all.
Oh man an OWL Many Scandals would be great
id love an owl scandal vid, theres probably enough content for one lmao
It's really funny how a multimillion dollar company can turn around and say "sorry we don't have the manpower or budget to make the game we promised" really makes me think this industry is a lost cause
15:44 "Blizzard announced PvE was taking longer than they'd like" Blizzard really proceeded to scrap PvE with a middle finger to community
What about the Mei scandal where they "made her skinny in the Chinese new year skin" (she is skinny, she's wearing a snowsuit), so they stepped in to say that that was a visual bug as seen by how her butt protrudes out weirdly from a side view. Then they "fixed it", but still kept the weird protrusion anyway.
Turning up mouse sensitivity is a really sweet way to play games imo. I've been doing it for a decade or so now. Saves your joints which matters more and more as you get older. I highly recommend folks try it if they've got the patience. You'll adjust relatively fast.
second this!! I done this too cause it made my hands hurt, and I don't regret it at all as I've gotten older lol
same i do it on console all the time, i have sensitivity at like 90 in some games lmao
I have a mouse with a sensitivity adjust button. Saves some accidental snapping on the fly.
Its a great way to ensure youll never be very good at a game by handicapping your aim
@@martymcfly88mph35 skill issue
I just got this recommended to me as someone who is still emotionally invested in this mess of a game for some reason. I enjoyed the video and immediately went on to binge-watch another five. It's rare for me to like these "informative but jokey" things. But not only have you managed to not make me roll my eyes, some of this stuff even got a good, genuine chuckle out of me. That's almost up there with the Internet Historian as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the good work and thanks for the entertainment!
A bit surprised that you didn't include the whole "Pharah's actually part Native American!" bit, or just do a whole section where Blizzard retconned some inclusion into the roster as a distraction.
Also, City of Heroes Scandals when?
Speaking of Geguri, I seem to remember there being some mild drama about her. She is good. Like REALLY damn good. So good that many accused her of cheating since she was just that damn accurate when coupled with the high sensitivity. I remember some posts from other OW pro players saying if she turned out to be an actual girl and not cheating they would delete their whole accounts. Then she started to stream with hand cams and yeah, she really was just that damn impressive. Unsure if said account deleting happened after.
yes i remember this!!! it was a massive wave of cheating accusations and idk why they even started outside of her being good at the game lmao
Ow2 is an example on how to not do a "sequel". An example of corporate greed forcing devs to add things or work in stuff not needed, for leaders to be too scared to miss up that they dont committ to anything for years, then because it doesnt sell well the devs are the ones that are punished because of the higher ups mishandling of the game.
Overwatch was my favorite game that had released in years. I loved every second of it. Then it became what it is, and I haven't touched it since about 2018.
Did you switch to TF2 like I did?
@thejman5683 nah. Just went back to replaying hotline Miami and monster hunter.
@@thejman5683one of the hardest games for new players to get into because there's no *real* casual playerbase. All the "casuals" play like sweats because they have thousands of hours invested at this point and can't *not* play the game as sweatily as possibly.
The fact he sent that ad for Gamersupps to them and they watched and were just like "yeah ok" really just makes this video truly that much better
Went from one of my favorite games ever to something I don't even think about. Including the sequel which I forgot had happened.
well its hard to forget about the sequel when you cant go back the OG, lol
It is so cringey when people try to excuse their lying and crappy behavior with the "it was a social experiment" claim. That's like slapping somebody in the face and then saying, "It was just a prank bro!" and expecting them to just be okay with it~
It's amazing how the only thing blizzard haven't killed in the franchise is the hentai. Not for a lack of trying, as they did try to protect their character models from being used by "third parties" only to realise that it's impossible to prevent the internet from drawing porn of female characters
yeah skyrim is the same way yet its in game (at least on PC), like half the armor replacers make your armor look like something you would see in a porn film instead of armor, its even worse for me because I mostly play female characters. it doesn't bother me all that much, the fanbase is like 90% horny teenagers, also it can somewhat fit in with the lore, while in the games sex is only ever illuded to they have books like "the lusty argonian maid" that are practically softcore erotica, also there is a story about vivec where she (or he... or it... I might be an expert on the elder scrolls but I still do not pretend to fully understand vivec although that is partly by design, like dragonbreaks or the god head) gets a "milk finger from a fish, also there is a necromancer in skyrim (i think she is in hjalmarch but don't quote me on that) who has been bringing back dragur to bang, when you encounter her she has a unique voice line that goes something like "nice another little plaything, kill his ass" if your character is male, if your character is female she says something else entirely (I don't remember what off the top of my head), also like half of the works of Michael Kirkbride (technically they are fan fiction but he used to be the lead writer for the elder scrolls so they should be taken more seriously) have some sexual elements in them.
Even if they lock the models... Yeah, it's a fools errand.
Like seriously. Those renderers, riggers, animators and artist would remake/create those models from scratch to be even better and THICCER.
@@jakobofcincy pretty much yeah, in skyrim either you go vanilla, immerssive, or "immerssive"... Just depends on what people want. (So I kinda get it why peoplelike those body, hair, high poly mods, "those mods" and animation mods... since you can practically just make those "videos and stuff" anytime)
Words cannot describe how infuriating the release of Overwatch 2 was to me as a casual player.
I was never competitive, but I got a lot of enjoyment out of Overwatch. Playing a few rounds of Elimination or Capture the Flag was my way of unwinding after a stressful day of school. Was I good at it? No, but I was having fun. So I learn about Overwatch 2's upcoming release and I'm intrigued, but content to keep playing the version I already had. Then, one day, I pop my copy of game disk into my Xbox and am greeted with Overwatch 2. Interesting. My stats and cosmetics don't carry over. A bit frustrating but I could put up with a bit of a wait to get them back. There's a Battle Pass now and the new heroes are locked behind it, and I'm not entirely sure of this but the default roster feels smaller. You've got to be fucking kidding me. And then I find out the thing has been made free-to-play. The game I'd spent actual, real-world money to get a physical copy of, was now a free download on the Xbox game store.
I could not get any enjoyment out of Overwatch 2 at launch. Like, even the arcade modes I spent so much time on just weren't fun anymore, so I dropped the game. Learning about the cut PvE content just now hurts so much. I feel bad for the fans who were actually anticipating this game leading-up to launch, that must have been devastating.
for someone who doesnt even play video games your content is super interesting and fun to watch
My favorite part of it becoming free to play was how they gave NOTHING to the people who had the paid version. TF2 at least gave a unique item to players who bought the paid version
I used to play this game a lot back in the day, but quite after some balance changes made my favorite characters play either different or flat-out unplayable, plus the competitiveness of other players were just too high for me to catch up. The only joy I could still get was with custom games, but after people stopped joining and the UI got more cluttered, I moved on.
And after seeing the launch of 2, I'm glad I got out when I did.
Same… I hated the constant reworking and minimizing of content…
As soon as they fucked with Roadhog's combo, I was out. That & I absolutely refuse to play games that constantly shift metas to keep their playerbase interested. It's actual cancerous brainrot stuff.
Hanamura alone is better than any of the push maps. 2cp was unironically my favorite game mode. yeah getting stuck on attack going for the second point was annoying sometimes, but it felt fair in comp. Push is just a chore when the entire enemy team is respawned and back on point before the robot even gets to the midpoint. You have to win 3 consecutive team fights just to take any sort of lead, and there is NO plan of attack when wasting any time to coordinate loses so much advantage, its just TDM disguised as an alt escort.
Short term retention is the only thing they're concerned with. Overload new players with shiny skins, lock them out of heroes, take stupid measures to reduce toxicity (i made so many homies during end of match and LFG), and give them the simplest gamemode yet (hard to believe that was even possible). It feels pay to win when its not, which might actually be worse than real pay to win. And all of the awe new players get is from a third person perspective. new players don't want to see someone else do something cool while their restricted to like 10 heroes, the point of the diverse roster was so that anybody could pick it up and play a character that resonates with them right away. This also stunts the growth of anyone starting out. Half the game is understanding matchups and hero counters. The community is being absolutely murdered for a few extra bucks.
Who the hell thought blizzard would succeed after the merge with activision? blizzard is a company known for keeping games alive for a decade+ while activision can barely keep a game running for 1 year. I don't want overwatch CODified and still be promised a good outlook into the next years of service. I stopped playing when I realized I'd have to shell out 20 dollars consistently for stuff that would be considered just an event mode for OW1. The game was released as a "sequel" but has less content and only a participation trophy for veterans which is skins EVERYONE got immediately.
Overwatch Too was literally just a microtransactions store update and nothing more
Honestly for the tracer dump truck one I thought they meant the time people forget that tracer has a flat backside and accused the devs of flattening it, mistaking the original for the Phub version
Blizzard hiring John Cena to do promo work for the upcoming Overwatch Story Missions is perfection: he can help heal Blizzard's relationship with the CCP and get Chinese players back
Never played *Overwatch.* Probably never will. I’m just on a *ManyKudos* video marathon. Nice.
Whenever I take a break from playing 10+ y.o. single-player games on retired consoles, I wonder if I'm missing out anything by not playing the latest online multiplayer FTP game and your videos are there to let me know that I'm not.
With one of the controversies happening during the pre-release period, this game was bound to have many more of these afterwards
I’ve only recently stumbled onto this channel and I’ve been binge watching all the videos like crazy. This stuff is so well put together and incredibly entertaining. Keep up the good work man! Can’t wait to see more.
And then there's the flub over the character ages. Since they dropped the guy who kept track of the lore, they have characters who are technically the same age, but when people did the math, character (A) would be 18 going through an event, while characters (B) and (C) would be 7 and 26 somehow. My favorite was a character that went through several military groups to deal with the robot uprising. With her new age, she did stuff like join their version of the Seals at something like 14 years old....
Very well structured and highly informative. I only played Overwatch for a short while, it didnt qute scratch the itch that TF2 did, for me. Also the ad was superbly implemented! I applaud you, Mr. Kudos.
I'm legitimately surprised you didn't mention blizzard trying to take down overwatch porn but having to give up due to the sheer amount of it
People who play Overwatch on a daily basis are the "I can fix her" people of the gaming community
Me, a TF2 player who’s gotten this in their recommended for no reason: *_[insert Taunt_Schadenfreude_Pyro.wav here]_*
This entire video and every random joke was amazing 😂😭
Bastions sexuality being apart of his personality fucking killed me 😂
ironically, the overwatch loot boxes were probably one of the most fair version of the lootbox. Every event, you could realistically get every skin by just playing without spending a dime. As you earned more skins and items, you got currency quicker so you can easily buy the rest of the skins you missed out or wanted.
This is why they cannabalized this currency for OW2 release because Blizz knew that this system would not make them money anymore for being too player friendly.
Very few people greatly disliked OW1's lootbox system. You got free stuff for playing (actual cool stuff, not just dumb sprays or w/e). What they greatly disliked was how infrequently more content was added and longtime players ended up just having mass amounts of currency with nothing to spend it on.
The lootboxes were very fun to open, seeing 3 yellow beams was about as hype as you could get in the game.
I think a lot of it was just how egregious other games were, which garnered every loot of system a lot of hate. It peaked around the time of the battle front 2 stuff (I think that was the name, it was the star wars game with the "sense of pride and accomplishment" reddit post). The boxes and events singlehandedly pulled me back to the game religiously until they slit the game's throat like cattle.
That's not true. I agree with what you think about lootboxes, but that was not the common sentiment at the time. People loathed lootboxes and talked about them like Kaplan himself was breaking into your home and robbing you at gunpoint
@@lisan3627 no. They did not.
@@CaelenSawyers I genuinely don't know how you could misremember the reaction to lootboxes at the time. It was everywhere
If they simply changed it so that lootboxes were more readily available, but kept the new money shop to directly purchase items, that'd be a good balance between old and new imo.
You have free lootboxes. You're guaranteed something, might not always be what you wanted but you might get a cool skin that'll get you to try out a new hero, or you can use premium currency to directly purchase the item you want.
Hell, they can keep the battle pass if they want, just actually make it function like every other battle pass (where completing the premium track gives enough currency to buy the next battle pass, with some left over)
But Blizzard didn't want a good idea. They wanted to hook in the whales.
I remember buying overwatch 1 in 2017-2018 (can't remember the exact year) and I didn't spend any extra cash to get loot boxes/in-game currency. Overwatch 1 gave tons of opportunities to acquire a loot box with daily/weekly playlists you could play to earn one. I can't remember the exact amount, but I had a decent number of legendary skins (haven't logged on to Overwatch 2, and don't intend to, so I have to go off of memory).
I remember thinking overwatch 2 was just pointless when I heard about it, and I’d rather stick to 1. Then they shut down the servers and I was pissed. I heard about all the additional micro transactions, the atrocious battle pass, and how everything in the second game could have been an update in the first game, cementing my stance that I’ll never touch Overwatch 2. Watching this, it just makes me really sad and I honestly wish I could play Overwatch 1 again, I miss meeting people in games, I miss socializing in the custom games, I even miss getting into arguments over the mic. I miss THE Overwatch.
Its remarkable that they fumbled such a big game so hard. If you weren't around for it's release era, it was so huge that it warped the scene around itself. Games like Battleborn and Gigantic were being accused of copying OW for clout and were largely ignored because of OW, and now Blizzard has pissed it all away. It's amazing how badly they fucked it
Overwatch 1: Free updates and modes
Overwatch 2: Pay for LESS of everything!
come on bro why Tracer got shoes on in the thumbnail bro lemme see the toooooooooes
Wtf Sumito.
9:11 shout out to the guy that has r34 opened in the background on CRT monitor
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the Blitzchung incident or them renaming McCree after Blizzard's massive toxic work place scandal. Although, I suppose it could have potentially doubled the video's run time. Or should I look forward to a part 2 for a game with more scandals than good updates?
Edit: I forgot Blitzchung was Hearthstone, not Overwatch. Got confused because Blizzard has so many scandals. That being said, I did remember another one about an Overwatch pro player saying he was so convinced Geguri was cheating that he'd quit if he was wrong, only to be immediately proven wrong when she did a handcam stream.
2:57 - Not hating - just wanted to point out that not all penis operators are men. Some trans women and non-binary people still have their penises
I'm not surprised how OW2 turned out. The game felt like it were a set of keys being jingled in front of a baby to stop it crying, only the keys were OW2 and the baby was crying because Blizzard back stabbed Blitzchung for his Hong Kong comments.
Even though i listen to your vids while im working i do like to rewatch bits because your edits/editor are very fun visually.
Just to round it out, Punisher masqueraded as Ellie because the team had previously rejected him as Punisher, so he tried to see if it would change if he was a girl.
Also surprised that you never mentioned Sinatraa. Kinda grim but pretty inarguably the biggest scandal in the pro scene, with only ChipSa even coming close
OOOH. You're covering overwatch.
I haven't even pressed play on the vid yet and I can tell its going to be a good one.
When people go on posts and tell people to stop whining about the PvE and be grateful, it just tells others that you have no idea what you're talking about if you're out here defending a billion dollar company like they need that money or are allowed to have excuses on why the promised PvE experience won't be delivered.
The sensitivity thing is stupid, cuz I once set my sensitivity up high and it was frustrating.
Not on overwatch, but on TF2. It caused my aim to falter, shots to miss, ect.
I miss 2016 Overwatch.
I love Overwatch. It still has some of the best representation in gaming. The character designs are REALLY cool and feel great to play. Blackwatch was easily my most favorite event the game had. The lore felt interesting, and the locations felt varied and interesting. I especially love the Pixar-quality animation videos that were made for the game. It felt like a franchise that everyone could enjoy.
It's an absolute shame how poorly Blizzard has treated this game. I want to play it, but after Blizzard's many scandals, i just cant bring myself to play it, including but not limited to:
1. The Blitzchung incident (still love that Mei was a symbol for the Free Hong Kong movement)
2. Drip-fed content updates for YEARS
3. The Activision/Blizzard sexual harassment controversies
4. The nightmarish battle pass system that made loot boxes look good
5. The cancelled PVE RPG mode, as well as its shoehorned three missions being sold for $15
Retribution (Blackwatch) and Junkenstein's Revenge (Halloween terror) was the most fun I've ever had with Overwatch no matter how many times it was recycled over the years. Even without any talents I replayed the hell out of it over and over again pretty much every other day.
I used to be excited for cinematics and more lore, if you told me during 2017-2019 that Overwatch would be making short anime series - I'd lose my mind from excitement..
But right now - I'm not even playing a game because with a new team I always have questions and paranoia about "what will they decide to cancel or retcon next", "this team is full of new people that had nothing to do with the original" or "what next content they will rush so they can cover-up the next blizzard drama".
The new direction is so confusing, all of these changes and effort so they can justify their move to 5v5 + rushing out a sequel, altering a PVE sequel into a pvp game that they have to rework an entire roster for, redesigning many old maps for the same reason, putting focus on creating all those filler cosmetics for Battle Pass and Shop over actual in-game content.
It sucks that Overwatch went from being a GOTY 2016 to having a sequel that is basically on life-support.
your content is fantastic- truly a content creator that deserves a bigger platform
TF2 is still out there after 2 versions of Oversnatch being shat out and forgotten 😂😂😂
(20:30) While I will not disagree that the pose is sexualised. The stupidest argument for it being sexualised was someone claiming that the "legs are pointing towards the butt, putting the focus on the butt". Almost everyone's legs connect below the butt ... that's how a human looks like. There's cherrypicking, and there's this kind of comment.
Someone could probably find that video on UA-cam.
man that model in the thumbnail is very detailed
i know that although i have never played the game
Was listening to this in the background while working, can confirm that at 9:02 I was verbally flashbanged thinking that a regular ad had started to play...
read out monkaHMM or i unsubscribe
Honestly at this point Overwatch players deserve every bit of misfortune that happens to them these days for enabling this insanity.
no they deserve what they get, a shitty game that doesnt work and isnt what they were promised
actiblizz is still the major criminal in all this and deserves the worst, gamers are just mindless animals incapable of critical thought
you dont wish eternal misery on a dog cause it got excited and bit you, you just give it a light punishment and go about your day
gamers cant help themselves they lack the frontal lobe that deals in things like higher cognition and fully formed thoughts
i remember the first season of OWL was pretty dang fun to watch. Then the ''GOATS'' meta happened and suddenly it became to most boring ass competitive game you can ever tune into on twitch and Blizzard just decided to do nothing about it for like years. Then 2020 finished the league off.
The last bit of Jeff's post over that tracer pose nonsense was pretty funny since they bent the kneel a number of times for china with mei
Blizzard sure is one of the company's of all time
Thanks Kudos for making this video it really took me down a trip to memory lane
The state of the game is so abysmal rn that I wouldn't mind an OW classic of some form. The 6v6 gameplay was so much more kinetic, chaotic and fun while still being plenty skillful. They have forced the game into such a boring overly competitive state that it feels more like valorant than tf2. It's also a feat to make a microtransaction system so bad that players miss lootboxes, genuinely impressive.
Maybe it was too cynical of me, but as soon as i saw them announce "overwatch 2" i figured it was gonna fail really hard. Just looking at how mismanaged and stale the first one was and all the lofty promises they made there was really too small a chance it would actually turn out well.
It's current year blizzard, there was a 0% chance of it not turning to poo
Great video man, and the haircut is looking sharp
3:39 - I don't think it's immediately "misogyny" when someone just wants to find out the truth when something shady is going on.
... But I'm not ruling out the possibility that it can be a motivation for some.
The reddit thread about Dunkey's video bashing OW2's "beta" (which was full of people getting mad at him and "It's only a beta its gonna get fixed in the release" copium) has one comment that said one of the truest things ever said about the video game industry:
"How come game communities are always in denial when things are looking bad?
*Game is delayed: It's ok! Miyamoto once said...
*Leading developer leaves: This is normal! People leave studios they've been with for years in the middle of the production of the sequel to their greatest success all the time!
*Beta is disappointing: Guys! Its just a beta! Everything is going to be different between now and release!
*Launch is disappointing: It's ok, games never launch 100% ready these days! They'll fix everything and add a whole bunch of content soon!
*3 months after launch: WTF?! WHY IS THE GAME SHIT?! HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!
You'd think Duke Nukem Forever, Watch Dogs, The Division, No Man's Sky, Fallout 76, Cyberpunk 2077, Battlefield 2042, Halo Infinite Etc. etc. etc. would have taught people a lesson already. Nope. Gamers just mindlessly preorder, stay in denial, and rage at anyone who's skeptical. Only when it's too late do they realize they got scammed, but then their money is gone.
And then they have the audacity to wonder why the game industry is so predatory and low effort these days. At this point I don't even blame the game studios for taking advantage of their customers, because their customers are idiots who never learn their lesson."
Dunkey always sees the forest through the trees. As far as buying new games go, I'll either lower my expectations or wait until the next big Steam sale to find it.
Most recently, Remnant 2 came out half-baked with severe optimization issues. Since I lowered my expectations beforehand, I wasn't surprised when I got treated to choppy gameplay and outright crashes. People defended it the whole time, even claiming since they didn't personally see any issues that means everyone else must be running a garbage rig. The game has been patched a couple times since launch, but its still not completely stable, and there's already big balance and QOL issues that people still defend. At least there's no microtransactions, I guess...
Modern masterpieces are still being released, thankfully. Just look at Pikmin 4, Deep Rock Galactic, Yakuza LAD, or Monster Hunter: World/Icebourne. It's really too bad people keep crawling back to EA, Ubisoft, and Blizzard.
True.
Genuinely. Unless these kind of people learn this, these things will keep on happening. There's no point to preordering anyway other then bragging rights that "you were one of the first" to get it. If anything it's just a gamble with your money if the game will work at all.
"Oh but it supports them!" Oh yeah lemmie support shitty practices by spending my money on a game before it even releases further encouraging companies that do this shit to continue doing it instead of improving. And oh yeah how could I forget that a poor multi million company absolutely needs this kind of support! The poor poor CEO must be so sad only able to buy 3 yachts that month!
preach
True, but No man's Sky and to a lesser extent cyberpunk improved themselves
@@notapplicable6985 Cyberpunk never became the game it was promised to be, people just forgot what the promises were because Edgerunners was a good show and the game wasn't a broken piece of shit by then
Love the kudos many scandal series! Never played half these games but I love hearing about all the madness haha
It still amazes me how hard they destroyed such a great game
Absoulty love your videos especially the wow ones! Earned yourself a subscriber FOR THE HORDE!
the over the shoulder gaze isnt a "hey look at my great ass", its "Im so bad ass, I dont even need to face you completely, as I pity you". if you are sexualizing Tracer, thats on you bro, not on the animation dept. its literally the pose equivalent of walking away from an explosion in an action movie.
That whole first segment is like a fever dream.
A team fired someone, so someone went "Look, I will pretend to be a girl, and you will hire me, problem solved?"
And they went "Sure, yeah, lol"
And the internet, very much justifiably so, went "isnt this the most sus shit?"
Then the team and the dude basically dug their own graves, had to admit to the internet having been right from the get-go, and promptly gave female overwatch players a big middle finger by then claiming that the player wasnt fired because he had lied and pretended to be a girl, but because "People only either hated her cuz girl or loved her cuz girl"?
I knew there was a reason I never cared about professional overwatch.
The biggest scandal was how many people still give Bobby Kotick money. That man looks like an AI rendering of greed in human form.
Lol overwatch not being in some kinda controversy would be like a 10 sec video
Felt like you could have split the scandals between the competitive league and the game itself with so many scandals they had
3:40 I understand and agree with the point you're trying to make, but the entirety of Reddit culture is obsessing over trivial things and being incredibly toxic over it
Overwatch 2 is probably one of the most pointless sequels i ever seen
Bioshock Infinite walked so Overwatch could run.