Overwatch's Many Scandals

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @ManyKudos
    @ManyKudos  Рік тому +225

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      @kgniku503 Рік тому +20

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      @camionsitovolvo9379 Рік тому +6

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    • @alantremonti1381
      @alantremonti1381 Рік тому +7

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    • @i-exist763
      @i-exist763 Рік тому +1

      "Bops a Drom Shell" 16:10

    • @chaoz675
      @chaoz675 Рік тому +2

      You forgot about the oppress and destroy Hong Kong movement China started and blizzard endorsed

  • @TuskaiTheKid
    @TuskaiTheKid Рік тому +1768

    The ultimate irony of Overwatch 2's failure, is that basically everything Overwatch 2 promised for PvE, was already in Battleborn, a game that for all intents and purposes, was outright murdered by coming out two weeks before Overwatch 1.

    • @sebastianturner2458
      @sebastianturner2458 Рік тому +239

      Ha. Somebody else remembers it. I always preferred Battleborn, mostly because of the PvE. To have Overwatch effectively kill it, promise to replace it, and then go back on that promise... Ugh.

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 Рік тому +139

      TF2 created Mann VS Machine, a mode that was exactly what OW2 pve was supposed to be before the first game was formally announced.

    • @tenyokensekia8088
      @tenyokensekia8088 Рік тому +68

      Huh, having played quite a bit of that game, its ironic that a game that had no chance in hell of lasting with Overwatch, had the things that Overwatch players now want.

    • @MisterCake
      @MisterCake Рік тому +33

      in which had more replayability, game modes & charming characters.
      from both sides ; i had more fun playing Battleborn than Overwatch when both were released

    • @mallyxtheunyielding7212
      @mallyxtheunyielding7212 Рік тому +44

      Gosh...that game was so painful to watch die. I played both it and Overwatch and much preferred Battleborn's characters, playstyle and PVE focus

  • @Edregawg
    @Edregawg Рік тому +3770

    you are telling me Blizzard has scandals?

  • @ayylien00
    @ayylien00 Рік тому +880

    I can't believe Blizzard fumbled their monetization scheme so hard it made me miss lootboxes

    • @StefantheFox9
      @StefantheFox9 Рік тому +64

      tbh the lootboxes weren't that bad in overwatch they gave you a lot of them and the currency was also pretty easy to get so you could just buy whatever you wanted anyways

    • @Brams2777
      @Brams2777 Рік тому +35

      Overwatch was the one game where I didn't mind the lootboxes at all

    • @kyotanaka920
      @kyotanaka920 Рік тому +18

      ​@@StefantheFox9what they should have done is kept loot boxes via level up, and sold very generous amounts of currency instead of loot boxes.

    • @rafaelcoppe5900
      @rafaelcoppe5900 Рік тому +6

      lootboxes were good in ow1 because you didn't need to buy them

    • @hardboiled2987
      @hardboiled2987 Рік тому

      This is such an NPC parrot take. The lootbox system was perfectly fine compared to predatory shit like TF2’s crate system. That shit fried my brain as a kid after I got an unusual worth like $60 and I still struggle from a gambling disorder. You can literally get hats worth THOUSANDS of dollars (I.E. a jackpot)
      This slimy predatory shit was also added into the game at a point in time where more than 80%+ of the playerbase were children. Not only that, but valvedrones are so braindead that to this day, they’re still defending them.
      Valve bootlickers are so delusional and disconnected from reality that they are literally protecting the people who invented online gambling for kids lmao.
      Meanwhile with lootboxes? You get one with every level and the items are worth absolutely fucking nothing. I came back to OW1 1 year before it got taken down, and after 2 months I had unlocked every single cosmetics and I was already stacking lootboxes.
      This is not a valve vs blizzard thing. This is a "If I have any sort of moral values, I will not defend predatory, slimy scumbags who introduced gambling for kids into a game full of children". Actually infuriating. Valvedrones should not be allowed to pass on their genes.

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan Рік тому +1106

    Activision Blizzard on their way to make Valve look like a communicative, engaged company that provides regular content updates for their games

    • @kgniku503
      @kgniku503 Рік тому +34

      Overwatch 3 confirmed?!?

    • @tomorrowisyesterday3215
      @tomorrowisyesterday3215 Рік тому +84

      @@kgniku503 overwatch s*x updated would hype everyone's

    • @camoking3609
      @camoking3609 Рік тому +55

      ​@tomorrowisyesterday3215 at this point just go all in on Overwatch's biggest asset
      Make a full-on OW dating simulator complete with detailed secks scenes

    • @QuantemDeconstructor
      @QuantemDeconstructor Рік тому +22

      ​@@camoking3609Featuring a new 3-hour unskippable scene featuring Bastion

    • @renon1946
      @renon1946 Рік тому +8

      ​@@QuantemDeconstructorand Reinhardt??? 😍

  • @brokenmekhane5807
    @brokenmekhane5807 Рік тому +1006

    I'm not sure if Blizzard using the LGBTQ community as a shield for pr nightmares in OW is the funniest or saddest thing I have ever seen a company do. I don't think any company has been as prolific at using them as a shield than Blizzard lol

    • @damascusraven
      @damascusraven Рік тому +1

      The gays tend to gobble up any attention, so it was a safe bet.

    • @justpassingby298
      @justpassingby298 Рік тому +250

      You mean saying a character is gay isn't a good way to respond to sexual harassment?

    • @captainweekend5276
      @captainweekend5276 Рік тому +137

      It was funny how often they did it, and sad at how well it often worked at appeasing a good portion of the community.

    • @sushiroll3795
      @sushiroll3795 Рік тому +1

      Not to mention, that scummy tactic of using queer people as a shield made queerphobes feel comfortable spouting their bigoted bs under the guise of "criticism." Just look at the comments section under any video about OW2's Pride event that happened a couple months ago. Shit was baaaaaad.

    • @APerson-si8jr
      @APerson-si8jr Рік тому +166

      @@justpassingby298 You're forgetting that they changed a whole map to look like a gay pride parade just passed through AND added player icons and banners for the lgtv community. I mean how could we still be mad when they're so appreciative and happy to show their pride and pride for their players too. Simply an amazing company, they really must care

  • @DanGamingFan2406
    @DanGamingFan2406 Рік тому +635

    No wonder so many prefer Overwatch p*** over the actual game. It's bad enough that Overwatch 2's launch was absolutely disastrous and made micropayments more or less a necessity to get the full experience, but then they strip down PvE, the only reason to justify the upgrade, of everything but the story missions. And then they make you pay for those too. The whole thing has turned into one of Blizzard's biggest messes.

    • @watershipup7101
      @watershipup7101 Рік тому +28

      You sure got the first part right.

    • @genjis5155
      @genjis5155 Рік тому +2

      I haven't played since that happened.

    • @turkeyman631
      @turkeyman631 Рік тому +9

      Yup, if new characters werent locked behind the battlepass, I wouldnt care nearly as much as I did about the cancelled PvE.

    • @thusnameddigital9397
      @thusnameddigital9397 Рік тому +18

      The game had so much promise upon launch, now it's just the most popular category of cgi smut. Not complaining about the last part, thought.

    • @Glade4
      @Glade4 Рік тому +4

      FYI, the game is releasing on steam in 2 days, voice your concerns in the reviews

  • @kirrb-dot-exe
    @kirrb-dot-exe Рік тому +1212

    Tbh i still remember when overwatch came out in 2016 and it was so fun to play and see a community thrive! I don’t even play pvp shooters much but i had so much fun. I miss those days

    • @Murmaider4
      @Murmaider4 Рік тому +25

      I traveled for work at the time the week it came out, and I remember being teased by my coworker for being willing to pack up my entire PC tower and peripherals so I didn't miss launch day while living out of a hotel. So crazy to think I was passionate about this game after looking at it now

    • @Teixas666
      @Teixas666 Рік тому +11

      then they releasaed the ranked ladder and everything slowly went ot sht.

    • @turkeyman631
      @turkeyman631 Рік тому +7

      It's so sad how little the shareholders and owners of Blizzard care about the state of their games, just making sure there is a good monetization scheme for them to make the most money possible. If only they understood having content and not lying to fans helps them spend more money on your monetization.

    • @13Maur
      @13Maur Рік тому +8

      I loved this game so fucking much man, i'd play at least 1-2 hours every day for 3 years straight. But when blizz stopped putting out content, my interest slowly died. One of my favoite things was the tank combos. Rein - zaria, dva - winston and my favorite orisa - hog. It was so fun when you got a 2nd tank that you synergized with. I loved it. They took it away. Making friends and talking shit in the groupfinder. Took it away. When papa Jeff left i knew it was the death of overwatch.
      I played it again this weekend and its just a shell of what it was.

    • @Glade4
      @Glade4 Рік тому +3

      FYI, the game is releasing on steam in 2 days, voice your concerns in the reviews

  • @Kyderra
    @Kyderra Рік тому +240

    The story mission costed 15 dollars to play, per friend who you wanted to play it with.
    Someone seriously thought this was a good idea

    • @nibli
      @nibli Рік тому +25

      And this only covers a pack of 3 story missions with little value for replay

  • @Ooffoop
    @Ooffoop Рік тому +424

    The thing about overwatch is that while loot boxes sucked you at least had something to work for now there’s nothing unless you spew out money for the battle pass and even then for people like me who only play a bit it’s very unfulfilling because you practically have to grind to get anything good
    *I can’t believe I miss loot boxes*

    • @e.d.5766
      @e.d.5766 Рік тому +61

      The lootboxes in Overwatch were always good because you could freely earn them in game at a good rate. With only a handful of exceptions, if you were a dedicated player, you could pretty easily have every cosmetic in the game only having paid for the game itself. Whilst there is an in-game currency system in Overwatch 2 to buy cosmetics, the amount of time you have to dedicate to buy a skin is far longer. That's also ignoring the bug with the Heroes menu where some skins just don't show up for some players, so if that's the one you wanted to buy I guess wait for it to be in the Shop, where you'll probably have to buy it in a bundle with other cosmetics you already own or just don't want.
      Lootboxes in Overwatch were so good because the general cosmetics were more about expression and variance than being a revenue source. Now they're *the* revenue source, at the cost of the game and the players.

    • @jeannecaelum5167
      @jeannecaelum5167 Рік тому +29

      these lootboxes could be earned and came in plenty, so yeah, i miss them because they were in all fairness, """good"" lootboxes.

    • @Tiberium10332
      @Tiberium10332 Рік тому +21

      As someone who rarely played OW the event lootboxes where always a nice welcome and sometimes I didn't play for so long, that the pity timer got ma a instant legendary. That was always a nice hook. Now I would have to grind to unlock the new characters from what I've heard.

    • @Ooffoop
      @Ooffoop Рік тому +17

      @@e.d.5766 the main problem with the lootbox system was that you could buy them and in a market flooded with whales and children who don’t know better it always felt iffy

    • @e.d.5766
      @e.d.5766 Рік тому +11

      ​@@OoffoopI definitely agree, in an ideal world there would be no way to buy the lootboxes with real money. However, I think having a system where there's no need to buy lootboxes to access any content, but the option still being available and providing a secondary revenue stream for the game is a good compromise. Even though some skins were exclusively available with real purchases, having free access to nearly any skin by just grinding for a weekend meant it always felt like the few purchasable skins were an optional way to commemorate an event, support the developers or show dedication to the hero you main. It never felt like customisation was behind a paywall, but it does now.

  • @TrueTein
    @TrueTein Рік тому +222

    Looking back on it, the Tracer victorypose controversy in the beta was a sign of things to come.

  • @ocha-time
    @ocha-time Рік тому +203

    Take a shot whenever someone invokes Social Experiment after being caught trying to deceive

  • @piratebear3126
    @piratebear3126 Рік тому +215

    I still fondly remember Total Biscuit’s parody of the Tracer post where he made it about Winston instead. I never knew that they admitted that the new pose was already made, but it was obvious due to the fast turn around and the fact that the pinup fits with Tracer’s Air Force background is cool. Crazy that that ended up being the least controversial OW controversy.

    • @ArcNine9Angel
      @ArcNine9Angel Рік тому +20

      RIP TB. At least he didn't have to see this shitscape circus.

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 Рік тому +39

      Jaltoid made an entire animation about it and pointed out how the initial complaint was mildly sexist for implying women can't be proud of their body.

    • @admiralpepper6933
      @admiralpepper6933 Рік тому +4

      ​@@theotherjared9824
      Holy fuck I remember Jaltoid! Did they ever come back?

    • @tenyokensekia8088
      @tenyokensekia8088 Рік тому +30

      In all honestly, whatever the reason and turn of events that got us there, I do think the new pose is just way better. Not only does it fit the character better, its just silly and fun. Also may that beautifully cynical bastard rest in piece. Geeze I miss TB.

  • @AzureRoxe
    @AzureRoxe Рік тому +466

    When it comes to the PvE missions, Blizzard "secretly" invited some content creators [aka the ones most likely to suck up to them] to test them out.
    Almost everyone tried really hard not to flatout say they were mid-to-bad, but most of them heavily implied it. So yes, they want people to pay almost $20 for 3 short crappy missions.

    • @firewizardrunepro
      @firewizardrunepro Рік тому +34

      Not even a surprise, overwatch never had any good PVE missons that weren't boring and repetitive. All the "story missions" that they came out with once a year made me want to fall asleep.

    • @yveltalsea
      @yveltalsea Рік тому +6

      @@firewizardrunepro It's actually hilarious how excited people were for overwatch PVE. PVE was NEVER good, it was always AWFUL, so why would people ever want more? It felt so robotic and linear, and even with new missions, there were the exact same enemies over and over. Why would people even think Blizzard could make a good PVE?

    • @Kaiserwill
      @Kaiserwill Рік тому +54

      @@yveltalsea because blizzard has primarily made pve games for the past decade and a half

    • @jdizzy192
      @jdizzy192 Рік тому +40

      ​@@yveltalseaBecause Blizzard could make decent-good PvE games. They just love money more than quality

    • @verguco6051
      @verguco6051 Рік тому +2

      the didnt imply a shit, they already told us the missions are bad, was very explicit, the only good thing they have to say are the interactions of the characters, the voice lines, which i can watch for free on youtube

  • @W0lfenstrike
    @W0lfenstrike Рік тому +86

    It feels like every time Blizzard "listens to the community", it's a monkey paw's wish. "No lootboxes this time around!" **thunderous applause**
    Oh you sweet summer child.

  • @Glory2Snowstar
    @Glory2Snowstar Рік тому +164

    Y'know as a Splatoon fan I think we take a lot about our personal shooter franchise for granted. Sure our maps used to be way better, but we have, let's see...
    In-depth singleplayer, PVE mode with great QoL, free updates every three months with new maps and weapons, a built-in social media/art mode that doesn't blacklist you if you say "Free" and "Hong Kong" in the same sentence...
    Also TF2 stays winning as usual.

    • @Mephitinae
      @Mephitinae Рік тому +7

      Why do people always compare tf2 with OW or whatever meme shooter is popular atm? I don't play tf2, but it's a total meme fest from what I've seen. The constant stream of chaos couldn't keep my attention for longer than 10 minutes. I heard like half the players are also bots? And the other half probably haven't left their room in a decade

    • @Tubuxis
      @Tubuxis Рік тому +27

      ​@@Mephitinaebecause tf2 is and always will be the best multiplayer shooter

    • @dormitory650
      @dormitory650 Рік тому +21

      "tf2 stays winning as usual" WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A MAJOR UPDATE IN LIKE 5 YEARS FYM WE'RE WINNING ☹️

    • @camoking3609
      @camoking3609 Рік тому +10

      ​@@dormitory650idk this is the biggest update we've gotten since jungle inferno

    • @Mephitinae
      @Mephitinae Рік тому +8

      @@Tubuxis You remind me of a kid I knew in the 90s who said "Doom is the best game in the world and always will be"

  • @Firefox-eg3no
    @Firefox-eg3no Рік тому +26

    Fun fact! The 'on fire' system was never removed, it was just hidden as you could still hear the 'on fire' voice lines in game, and they even got voice lines for the newer heros

  • @xxlordxx6862
    @xxlordxx6862 Рік тому +87

    It's always surprising to me how Blizzard was able to sell a sequel by just doing jack and shit and then charge you to include some content that was the selling point for the sequel to begin with.

  • @texasgunslinger6201
    @texasgunslinger6201 Рік тому +387

    Surprised you didn't mention the former mexican employee who wrote an entire google doc about why he quit working at blizzard, which included his work going unpaid, his fellow coworkers and his female boss treating him like he was a male stereotype and like absolute shit when he didn't even do anything, and basically he was treated so bad that before he left he was actually seriously contemplating suicide. Around the time the employee came out they just so happened to reveal that soldier 76 was gay. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out the guy was bullied into deleting the doc if you can't find it anymore. I know it's not exactly tied to overwatch itself but the fact that they revealed 76 being gay around the time the doc came out made everyone think they only revealed that to distract from this employee airing his grievances.

    • @lechant7991
      @lechant7991 Рік тому +16

      I can't find anything about that but if you have a name or a link I'd be interested in looking into it

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat Рік тому +10

      wait is the name of the employee known? i remember the soldier 76 thing happening during some controversy but i never heard about this

    • @torvasdh
      @torvasdh Рік тому +102

      Harassing employee near suicide = soldier 76 is gay
      Sexual harassment lawsuits = Tracer is gay
      PvE cancelled = Pharah is gay
      They'll keep doing it every time lmao

    • @jackgebhardt2932
      @jackgebhardt2932 Рік тому +67

      ​@@torvasdh"Break Glass Ceiling In Case of Controversy"

    • @moonwhooper
      @moonwhooper Рік тому +16

      @@torvasdh they keep doing it because it keeps working lmao

  • @jt2249
    @jt2249 Рік тому +323

    Please do a part 2! There's so much more to go with, like Geguri being accused of hacking by male Korean players and proving her skill, all the OWL players who got caught out as child predators/sexual abusers, LA Valiant's In 'N Out debacle, Titans losing their entire roster due to management being a bunch of pricks, so so much more

    • @kelvintay1803
      @kelvintay1803 Рік тому +51

      Missing the xqc and banning of pepega emote to actual gay slur being toss around against Muma.

    • @ManyKudos
      @ManyKudos  Рік тому +120

      Oh brother there is so much more I can cover on this, do not worry

    • @viktorkudriavtsev830
      @viktorkudriavtsev830 Рік тому +9

      Or better yet, make an Overwatch's many scandals 2 that will be the exact same stories, but remove DJ Khaled one

    • @friddlefries1140
      @friddlefries1140 Рік тому +1

      I FORGOT ABIUT IN N OUT LMFAO

  • @jobdunnright1932
    @jobdunnright1932 Рік тому +318

    I loved overwatch, I met so many friends and devoted so many hours to it, I even liked 2 enough to finish the first season but my main motivation to play was to collect the skins and when they made us pay for something we used to earn and get for free it killed my love for it, maybe I'll jump back in one-day but my heart still hurts. I truly loved overwatch unlike any other game and every other hero based fps I tried afterwards never felt the same

  • @konradzukowski213
    @konradzukowski213 Рік тому +23

    I feel like the biggest scandal of OW and a possible reason behind OW2 announcement was the Hong Kong ban.
    During the Free Hong Kong scandal, where a winning Hong Kong player got banned and taken away all the winnings as well as 2 casters getting fired, we were also getting first harassment accusations towards Blizzard senior staff members, Blizzard reputation was getting torn apart. During that time Overwatch 2 was announced with many saying that it was done to quel the outrage of the playerbase... and I remember myself, it worked.
    But then Blizzard was stuck with an issue - they had to work hard on a game that was still years behind being finished with higher management refusing to allocate more people to work on the project. So in order to fill up the workforce gap, people working on OW 1 were forced to move to OW2 team, leaving a skeleton crew to maintain OW1 and causing a contest drought for last years of operation.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Рік тому +5

      This is what made me refuse to give Blizz my money ever again. I regret nothing!

  • @supemaekawa
    @supemaekawa Рік тому +16

    It's really funny how a multimillion dollar company can turn around and say "sorry we don't have the manpower or budget to make the game we promised" really makes me think this industry is a lost cause

  • @ikari570
    @ikari570 Рік тому +95

    I really want a sequel to this, because there's just so much to talk about, even if we lump all the kiddler diddlers in the Overwatch League into just one category. Perhaps one about just the OWL, from little things that are hardly controversial (like Profit, a Pro Player flipping the bird and having to pay a 1k$ fine for it) or bigger stuff like their global concept of some teams having to travel tens of thousands of kilometers while others hardly had to travel at all.

    • @auberry9900
      @auberry9900 Рік тому +5

      Oh man an OWL Many Scandals would be great

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat Рік тому +3

      id love an owl scandal vid, theres probably enough content for one lmao

  • @rikolia
    @rikolia Рік тому +14

    What about the Mei scandal where they "made her skinny in the Chinese new year skin" (she is skinny, she's wearing a snowsuit), so they stepped in to say that that was a visual bug as seen by how her butt protrudes out weirdly from a side view. Then they "fixed it", but still kept the weird protrusion anyway.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Рік тому +21

    15:44 "Blizzard announced PvE was taking longer than they'd like" Blizzard really proceeded to scrap PvE with a middle finger to community

  • @adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749
    @adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749 Рік тому +21

    Guy at Blizcon: “ no one will be left behind”
    Overwatch 1 players: are left behind

  • @Divert486
    @Divert486 Рік тому +7

    I don't say this lightly, that was the best ad i've ever seen in my life. I did not realise i was watching an ad until it was too late and your product placement had been made, associating a hollow brand with the memory of laughter.

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad Рік тому +49

    Turning up mouse sensitivity is a really sweet way to play games imo. I've been doing it for a decade or so now. Saves your joints which matters more and more as you get older. I highly recommend folks try it if they've got the patience. You'll adjust relatively fast.

    • @oddlem
      @oddlem Рік тому +1

      second this!! I done this too cause it made my hands hurt, and I don't regret it at all as I've gotten older lol

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat Рік тому +1

      same i do it on console all the time, i have sensitivity at like 90 in some games lmao

    • @cheeplethebulldog1420
      @cheeplethebulldog1420 Рік тому +1

      I have a mouse with a sensitivity adjust button. Saves some accidental snapping on the fly.

    • @martymcfly88mph35
      @martymcfly88mph35 Рік тому +2

      Its a great way to ensure youll never be very good at a game by handicapping your aim

    • @yuu34567
      @yuu34567 10 місяців тому

      @@martymcfly88mph35 skill issue

  • @TheMoog27
    @TheMoog27 Рік тому +63

    Speaking of Geguri, I seem to remember there being some mild drama about her. She is good. Like REALLY damn good. So good that many accused her of cheating since she was just that damn accurate when coupled with the high sensitivity. I remember some posts from other OW pro players saying if she turned out to be an actual girl and not cheating they would delete their whole accounts. Then she started to stream with hand cams and yeah, she really was just that damn impressive. Unsure if said account deleting happened after.

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat Рік тому +10

      yes i remember this!!! it was a massive wave of cheating accusations and idk why they even started outside of her being good at the game lmao

  • @nicholasfarrell5981
    @nicholasfarrell5981 Рік тому +25

    A bit surprised that you didn't include the whole "Pharah's actually part Native American!" bit, or just do a whole section where Blizzard retconned some inclusion into the roster as a distraction.
    Also, City of Heroes Scandals when?

  • @jamesbackstar8285
    @jamesbackstar8285 Рік тому +31

    Unironically that was the greatest ad I've ever seen in my entire life,
    Somehow managed to out-do internet historian in terms of making me laugh hysterically
    Lmao

  • @MADExotix
    @MADExotix Рік тому +34

    Overwatch was my favorite game that had released in years. I loved every second of it. Then it became what it is, and I haven't touched it since about 2018.

    • @thejman5683
      @thejman5683 Рік тому +1

      Did you switch to TF2 like I did?

    • @MADExotix
      @MADExotix Рік тому +5

      @thejman5683 nah. Just went back to replaying hotline Miami and monster hunter.

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 Рік тому +2

      ​@@thejman5683one of the hardest games for new players to get into because there's no *real* casual playerbase. All the "casuals" play like sweats because they have thousands of hours invested at this point and can't *not* play the game as sweatily as possibly.

  • @dark67titan99
    @dark67titan99 Рік тому +51

    Honestly for the tracer dump truck one I thought they meant the time people forget that tracer has a flat backside and accused the devs of flattening it, mistaking the original for the Phub version

  • @Psyckonautic
    @Psyckonautic Рік тому +17

    Hanamura alone is better than any of the push maps. 2cp was unironically my favorite game mode. yeah getting stuck on attack going for the second point was annoying sometimes, but it felt fair in comp. Push is just a chore when the entire enemy team is respawned and back on point before the robot even gets to the midpoint. You have to win 3 consecutive team fights just to take any sort of lead, and there is NO plan of attack when wasting any time to coordinate loses so much advantage, its just TDM disguised as an alt escort.
    Short term retention is the only thing they're concerned with. Overload new players with shiny skins, lock them out of heroes, take stupid measures to reduce toxicity (i made so many homies during end of match and LFG), and give them the simplest gamemode yet (hard to believe that was even possible). It feels pay to win when its not, which might actually be worse than real pay to win. And all of the awe new players get is from a third person perspective. new players don't want to see someone else do something cool while their restricted to like 10 heroes, the point of the diverse roster was so that anybody could pick it up and play a character that resonates with them right away. This also stunts the growth of anyone starting out. Half the game is understanding matchups and hero counters. The community is being absolutely murdered for a few extra bucks.
    Who the hell thought blizzard would succeed after the merge with activision? blizzard is a company known for keeping games alive for a decade+ while activision can barely keep a game running for 1 year. I don't want overwatch CODified and still be promised a good outlook into the next years of service. I stopped playing when I realized I'd have to shell out 20 dollars consistently for stuff that would be considered just an event mode for OW1. The game was released as a "sequel" but has less content and only a participation trophy for veterans which is skins EVERYONE got immediately.

    • @simplysmiley4670
      @simplysmiley4670 Рік тому

      Overwatch Too was literally just a microtransactions store update and nothing more

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad Рік тому +37

    Went from one of my favorite games ever to something I don't even think about. Including the sequel which I forgot had happened.

    • @KujoTenshi
      @KujoTenshi Рік тому +2

      well its hard to forget about the sequel when you cant go back the OG, lol

  • @Chris-ok4zo
    @Chris-ok4zo Рік тому +36

    I used to play this game a lot back in the day, but quite after some balance changes made my favorite characters play either different or flat-out unplayable, plus the competitiveness of other players were just too high for me to catch up. The only joy I could still get was with custom games, but after people stopped joining and the UI got more cluttered, I moved on.
    And after seeing the launch of 2, I'm glad I got out when I did.

    • @alexmartin3143
      @alexmartin3143 Рік тому +1

      Same… I hated the constant reworking and minimizing of content…

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 Рік тому

      As soon as they fucked with Roadhog's combo, I was out. That & I absolutely refuse to play games that constantly shift metas to keep their playerbase interested. It's actual cancerous brainrot stuff.

  • @BandhariWickette
    @BandhariWickette 11 місяців тому +3

    It is so cringey when people try to excuse their lying and crappy behavior with the "it was a social experiment" claim. That's like slapping somebody in the face and then saying, "It was just a prank bro!" and expecting them to just be okay with it~

  • @Sax_Banana
    @Sax_Banana Рік тому +19

    It's amazing how the only thing blizzard haven't killed in the franchise is the hentai. Not for a lack of trying, as they did try to protect their character models from being used by "third parties" only to realise that it's impossible to prevent the internet from drawing porn of female characters

    • @tateranus4365
      @tateranus4365 6 місяців тому

      yeah skyrim is the same way yet its in game (at least on PC), like half the armor replacers make your armor look like something you would see in a porn film instead of armor, its even worse for me because I mostly play female characters. it doesn't bother me all that much, the fanbase is like 90% horny teenagers, also it can somewhat fit in with the lore, while in the games sex is only ever illuded to they have books like "the lusty argonian maid" that are practically softcore erotica, also there is a story about vivec where she (or he... or it... I might be an expert on the elder scrolls but I still do not pretend to fully understand vivec although that is partly by design, like dragonbreaks or the god head) gets a "milk finger from a fish, also there is a necromancer in skyrim (i think she is in hjalmarch but don't quote me on that) who has been bringing back dragur to bang, when you encounter her she has a unique voice line that goes something like "nice another little plaything, kill his ass" if your character is male, if your character is female she says something else entirely (I don't remember what off the top of my head), also like half of the works of Michael Kirkbride (technically they are fan fiction but he used to be the lead writer for the elder scrolls so they should be taken more seriously) have some sexual elements in them.

    • @ashurad_fox5991
      @ashurad_fox5991 6 місяців тому

      Even if they lock the models... Yeah, it's a fools errand.
      Like seriously. Those renderers, riggers, animators and artist would remake/create those models from scratch to be even better and THICCER.

    • @ashurad_fox5991
      @ashurad_fox5991 6 місяців тому

      @@tateranus4365 pretty much yeah, in skyrim either you go vanilla, immerssive, or "immerssive"... Just depends on what people want. (So I kinda get it why peoplelike those body, hair, high poly mods, "those mods" and animation mods... since you can practically just make those "videos and stuff" anytime)

  • @aBlackMage
    @aBlackMage Рік тому +6

    I just got this recommended to me as someone who is still emotionally invested in this mess of a game for some reason. I enjoyed the video and immediately went on to binge-watch another five. It's rare for me to like these "informative but jokey" things. But not only have you managed to not make me roll my eyes, some of this stuff even got a good, genuine chuckle out of me. That's almost up there with the Internet Historian as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the good work and thanks for the entertainment!

  • @headlesshorse6223
    @headlesshorse6223 Рік тому +3

    The fact he sent that ad for Gamersupps to them and they watched and were just like "yeah ok" really just makes this video truly that much better

  • @mutantmaster1
    @mutantmaster1 11 місяців тому +4

    And then there's the flub over the character ages. Since they dropped the guy who kept track of the lore, they have characters who are technically the same age, but when people did the math, character (A) would be 18 going through an event, while characters (B) and (C) would be 7 and 26 somehow. My favorite was a character that went through several military groups to deal with the robot uprising. With her new age, she did stuff like join their version of the Seals at something like 14 years old....

  • @somedudefromTX
    @somedudefromTX Рік тому +15

    Whenever I take a break from playing 10+ y.o. single-player games on retired consoles, I wonder if I'm missing out anything by not playing the latest online multiplayer FTP game and your videos are there to let me know that I'm not.

  • @germerican2585
    @germerican2585 Рік тому +9

    I'm legitimately surprised you didn't mention blizzard trying to take down overwatch porn but having to give up due to the sheer amount of it

  • @frankiecoss7141
    @frankiecoss7141 Рік тому +4

    I remember buying overwatch 1 in 2017-2018 (can't remember the exact year) and I didn't spend any extra cash to get loot boxes/in-game currency. Overwatch 1 gave tons of opportunities to acquire a loot box with daily/weekly playlists you could play to earn one. I can't remember the exact amount, but I had a decent number of legendary skins (haven't logged on to Overwatch 2, and don't intend to, so I have to go off of memory).

  • @Janm-2
    @Janm-2 Рік тому +3

    for someone who doesnt even play video games your content is super interesting and fun to watch

  • @KremBotop
    @KremBotop Рік тому +17

    With one of the controversies happening during the pre-release period, this game was bound to have many more of these afterwards

  • @LesStewartLPS
    @LesStewartLPS Рік тому +9

    Blizzard hiring John Cena to do promo work for the upcoming Overwatch Story Missions is perfection: he can help heal Blizzard's relationship with the CCP and get Chinese players back

  • @knownwarr
    @knownwarr Рік тому +16

    ironically, the overwatch loot boxes were probably one of the most fair version of the lootbox. Every event, you could realistically get every skin by just playing without spending a dime. As you earned more skins and items, you got currency quicker so you can easily buy the rest of the skins you missed out or wanted.
    This is why they cannabalized this currency for OW2 release because Blizz knew that this system would not make them money anymore for being too player friendly.

  • @purple_woolly
    @purple_woolly Рік тому +5

    Very well structured and highly informative. I only played Overwatch for a short while, it didnt qute scratch the itch that TF2 did, for me. Also the ad was superbly implemented! I applaud you, Mr. Kudos.

  • @ImInAgonyLOL
    @ImInAgonyLOL Рік тому +3

    I'm not surprised how OW2 turned out. The game felt like it were a set of keys being jingled in front of a baby to stop it crying, only the keys were OW2 and the baby was crying because Blizzard back stabbed Blitzchung for his Hong Kong comments.

  • @CaelenSawyers
    @CaelenSawyers Рік тому +30

    Very few people greatly disliked OW1's lootbox system. You got free stuff for playing (actual cool stuff, not just dumb sprays or w/e). What they greatly disliked was how infrequently more content was added and longtime players ended up just having mass amounts of currency with nothing to spend it on.
    The lootboxes were very fun to open, seeing 3 yellow beams was about as hype as you could get in the game.

    • @absolootdisaster1060
      @absolootdisaster1060 Рік тому +3

      I think a lot of it was just how egregious other games were, which garnered every loot of system a lot of hate. It peaked around the time of the battle front 2 stuff (I think that was the name, it was the star wars game with the "sense of pride and accomplishment" reddit post). The boxes and events singlehandedly pulled me back to the game religiously until they slit the game's throat like cattle.

    • @lisan3627
      @lisan3627 Рік тому

      That's not true. I agree with what you think about lootboxes, but that was not the common sentiment at the time. People loathed lootboxes and talked about them like Kaplan himself was breaking into your home and robbing you at gunpoint

    • @CaelenSawyers
      @CaelenSawyers Рік тому +1

      @@lisan3627 no. They did not.

    • @lisan3627
      @lisan3627 Рік тому

      @@CaelenSawyers I genuinely don't know how you could misremember the reaction to lootboxes at the time. It was everywhere

    • @sev1120
      @sev1120 7 місяців тому

      If they simply changed it so that lootboxes were more readily available, but kept the new money shop to directly purchase items, that'd be a good balance between old and new imo.
      You have free lootboxes. You're guaranteed something, might not always be what you wanted but you might get a cool skin that'll get you to try out a new hero, or you can use premium currency to directly purchase the item you want.
      Hell, they can keep the battle pass if they want, just actually make it function like every other battle pass (where completing the premium track gives enough currency to buy the next battle pass, with some left over)
      But Blizzard didn't want a good idea. They wanted to hook in the whales.

  • @alexanderveritas
    @alexanderveritas 9 місяців тому +2

    Never played *Overwatch.* Probably never will. I’m just on a *ManyKudos* video marathon. Nice.

  • @Soda_Drunka
    @Soda_Drunka Рік тому +5

    People who play Overwatch on a daily basis are the "I can fix her" people of the gaming community

  • @hellothisismufin
    @hellothisismufin Рік тому +6

    Its remarkable that they fumbled such a big game so hard. If you weren't around for it's release era, it was so huge that it warped the scene around itself. Games like Battleborn and Gigantic were being accused of copying OW for clout and were largely ignored because of OW, and now Blizzard has pissed it all away. It's amazing how badly they fucked it

  • @EPICSAWIKI
    @EPICSAWIKI Рік тому +1

    I’ve only recently stumbled onto this channel and I’ve been binge watching all the videos like crazy. This stuff is so well put together and incredibly entertaining. Keep up the good work man! Can’t wait to see more.

  • @kosmosfan01
    @kosmosfan01 Рік тому +9

    When people go on posts and tell people to stop whining about the PvE and be grateful, it just tells others that you have no idea what you're talking about if you're out here defending a billion dollar company like they need that money or are allowed to have excuses on why the promised PvE experience won't be delivered.

  • @Malevolence460
    @Malevolence460 7 місяців тому +1

    My favorite part of it becoming free to play was how they gave NOTHING to the people who had the paid version. TF2 at least gave a unique item to players who bought the paid version

  • @ChrisJBT2
    @ChrisJBT2 Рік тому +12

    I'm surprised you didn't talk about the Blitzchung incident or them renaming McCree after Blizzard's massive toxic work place scandal. Although, I suppose it could have potentially doubled the video's run time. Or should I look forward to a part 2 for a game with more scandals than good updates?
    Edit: I forgot Blitzchung was Hearthstone, not Overwatch. Got confused because Blizzard has so many scandals. That being said, I did remember another one about an Overwatch pro player saying he was so convinced Geguri was cheating that he'd quit if he was wrong, only to be immediately proven wrong when she did a handcam stream.

  • @menacingpyro2005
    @menacingpyro2005 Рік тому +3

    Me, a TF2 player who’s gotten this in their recommended for no reason: *_[insert Taunt_Schadenfreude_Pyro.wav here]_*

  • @one_million_hamsters
    @one_million_hamsters Рік тому +35

    I miss 2016 Overwatch.
    I love Overwatch. It still has some of the best representation in gaming. The character designs are REALLY cool and feel great to play. Blackwatch was easily my most favorite event the game had. The lore felt interesting, and the locations felt varied and interesting. I especially love the Pixar-quality animation videos that were made for the game. It felt like a franchise that everyone could enjoy.
    It's an absolute shame how poorly Blizzard has treated this game. I want to play it, but after Blizzard's many scandals, i just cant bring myself to play it, including but not limited to:
    1. The Blitzchung incident (still love that Mei was a symbol for the Free Hong Kong movement)
    2. Drip-fed content updates for YEARS
    3. The Activision/Blizzard sexual harassment controversies
    4. The nightmarish battle pass system that made loot boxes look good
    5. The cancelled PVE RPG mode, as well as its shoehorned three missions being sold for $15

    • @Nayutune
      @Nayutune Рік тому +1

      Retribution (Blackwatch) and Junkenstein's Revenge (Halloween terror) was the most fun I've ever had with Overwatch no matter how many times it was recycled over the years. Even without any talents I replayed the hell out of it over and over again pretty much every other day.
      I used to be excited for cinematics and more lore, if you told me during 2017-2019 that Overwatch would be making short anime series - I'd lose my mind from excitement..
      But right now - I'm not even playing a game because with a new team I always have questions and paranoia about "what will they decide to cancel or retcon next", "this team is full of new people that had nothing to do with the original" or "what next content they will rush so they can cover-up the next blizzard drama".
      The new direction is so confusing, all of these changes and effort so they can justify their move to 5v5 + rushing out a sequel, altering a PVE sequel into a pvp game that they have to rework an entire roster for, redesigning many old maps for the same reason, putting focus on creating all those filler cosmetics for Battle Pass and Shop over actual in-game content.
      It sucks that Overwatch went from being a GOTY 2016 to having a sequel that is basically on life-support.

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 3 місяці тому +1

    Overwatch 1: Free updates and modes
    Overwatch 2: Pay for LESS of everything!

  • @spekloop4952
    @spekloop4952 Рік тому +16

    Just to round it out, Punisher masqueraded as Ellie because the team had previously rejected him as Punisher, so he tried to see if it would change if he was a girl.
    Also surprised that you never mentioned Sinatraa. Kinda grim but pretty inarguably the biggest scandal in the pro scene, with only ChipSa even coming close

  • @LunaPPK
    @LunaPPK 10 місяців тому +1

    The last bit of Jeff's post over that tracer pose nonsense was pretty funny since they bent the kneel a number of times for china with mei

  • @walterdimm848
    @walterdimm848 Рік тому +13

    Blizzard sure is one of the company's of all time

  • @cheeplethebulldog1420
    @cheeplethebulldog1420 Рік тому +2

    The sensitivity thing is stupid, cuz I once set my sensitivity up high and it was frustrating.
    Not on overwatch, but on TF2. It caused my aim to falter, shots to miss, ect.

  • @JuvenileStacks
    @JuvenileStacks Рік тому +6

    TF2 is still out there after 2 versions of Oversnatch being shat out and forgotten 😂😂😂

  • @TheSingingFoxy
    @TheSingingFoxy Рік тому +2

    I remember thinking overwatch 2 was just pointless when I heard about it, and I’d rather stick to 1. Then they shut down the servers and I was pissed. I heard about all the additional micro transactions, the atrocious battle pass, and how everything in the second game could have been an update in the first game, cementing my stance that I’ll never touch Overwatch 2. Watching this, it just makes me really sad and I honestly wish I could play Overwatch 1 again, I miss meeting people in games, I miss socializing in the custom games, I even miss getting into arguments over the mic. I miss THE Overwatch.

  • @rfgnmf-nmesofuehsdjfnrmeowfsdz

    man that model in the thumbnail is very detailed
    i know that although i have never played the game

  • @TheGoldfishArmy
    @TheGoldfishArmy 3 місяці тому +2

    Words cannot describe how infuriating the release of Overwatch 2 was to me as a casual player.
    I was never competitive, but I got a lot of enjoyment out of Overwatch. Playing a few rounds of Elimination or Capture the Flag was my way of unwinding after a stressful day of school. Was I good at it? No, but I was having fun. So I learn about Overwatch 2's upcoming release and I'm intrigued, but content to keep playing the version I already had. Then, one day, I pop my copy of game disk into my Xbox and am greeted with Overwatch 2. Interesting. My stats and cosmetics don't carry over. A bit frustrating but I could put up with a bit of a wait to get them back. There's a Battle Pass now and the new heroes are locked behind it, and I'm not entirely sure of this but the default roster feels smaller. You've got to be fucking kidding me. And then I find out the thing has been made free-to-play. The game I'd spent actual, real-world money to get a physical copy of, was now a free download on the Xbox game store.
    I could not get any enjoyment out of Overwatch 2 at launch. Like, even the arcade modes I spent so much time on just weren't fun anymore, so I dropped the game. Learning about the cut PvE content just now hurts so much. I feel bad for the fans who were actually anticipating this game leading-up to launch, that must have been devastating.

  • @sonicrose8430
    @sonicrose8430 Рік тому +6

    i remember the first season of OWL was pretty dang fun to watch. Then the ''GOATS'' meta happened and suddenly it became to most boring ass competitive game you can ever tune into on twitch and Blizzard just decided to do nothing about it for like years. Then 2020 finished the league off.

  • @Justacheese
    @Justacheese Рік тому +1

    OOOH. You're covering overwatch.
    I haven't even pressed play on the vid yet and I can tell its going to be a good one.

  • @theanonymouscommenter976
    @theanonymouscommenter976 Рік тому +6

    Maybe it was too cynical of me, but as soon as i saw them announce "overwatch 2" i figured it was gonna fail really hard. Just looking at how mismanaged and stale the first one was and all the lofty promises they made there was really too small a chance it would actually turn out well.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Рік тому +1

      It's current year blizzard, there was a 0% chance of it not turning to poo

  • @nathangrayshon6690
    @nathangrayshon6690 10 місяців тому

    Was listening to this in the background while working, can confirm that at 9:02 I was verbally flashbanged thinking that a regular ad had started to play...

  • @MyenMarlkin
    @MyenMarlkin Рік тому +3

    3:39 - I don't think it's immediately "misogyny" when someone just wants to find out the truth when something shady is going on.
    ... But I'm not ruling out the possibility that it can be a motivation for some.

  • @DespicableDemon
    @DespicableDemon 9 місяців тому

    Even though i listen to your vids while im working i do like to rewatch bits because your edits/editor are very fun visually.

  • @SilverHyozanryu
    @SilverHyozanryu Рік тому +2

    The state of the game is so abysmal rn that I wouldn't mind an OW classic of some form. The 6v6 gameplay was so much more kinetic, chaotic and fun while still being plenty skillful. They have forced the game into such a boring overly competitive state that it feels more like valorant than tf2. It's also a feat to make a microtransaction system so bad that players miss lootboxes, genuinely impressive.

  • @auberry9900
    @auberry9900 Рік тому +3

    I was at the 1st OWL Finale and the DJ Khaled show was the most uncomfortable performance I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing. At one point he started talking about Beyonce and Jay-Z, and people in my section started asking if he was bringing them out 😂

  • @ivorynargie
    @ivorynargie Рік тому +1

    that gamersupps add took me waaaay off guard lmao, i nearly spilled my coffee on my monitor

  • @DolanDarker
    @DolanDarker Рік тому +11

    read out monkaHMM or i unsubscribe

  • @ursadabear2810
    @ursadabear2810 Рік тому +1

    It’s sad to see the game that shaped my gaming experience and and gave me and my friends a whole archive of beautiful memories fall the way it has. 2016-2018, the height of King Jeff’s golden age.

  • @mohamednail1707
    @mohamednail1707 Рік тому +5

    Overwatch 2 is probably one of the most pointless sequels i ever seen

  • @YehudiNimol
    @YehudiNimol Рік тому +1

    I'm surprised you didn't mention any of the drama in the community (such as SSSniperWolf being carried by a smurf account) the several _other_ OWL scandals. There's a lot more to cover when it comes to this community

  • @Shiirow
    @Shiirow Рік тому +7

    the over the shoulder gaze isnt a "hey look at my great ass", its "Im so bad ass, I dont even need to face you completely, as I pity you". if you are sexualizing Tracer, thats on you bro, not on the animation dept. its literally the pose equivalent of walking away from an explosion in an action movie.

  • @jayonnaise6105
    @jayonnaise6105 Рік тому

    I might be wrong, but I feel like you may have grown up watching Good Game on the ABC. Your editing style and manner of conducting yourself on camera really reminds me of that show, as well as the various hosts they had during their tenure.

  • @ZBott
    @ZBott Рік тому +3

    The biggest scandal was how many people still give Bobby Kotick money. That man looks like an AI rendering of greed in human form.

  • @Arrayonex
    @Arrayonex Рік тому +1

    According to some random website, I found out that my sens is almost exactly Geguri’s. Her sens is 9.11 cm/360 while mine is 9.47 cm/360. I also feel real comfortable with my sens.

  • @kelvintay1803
    @kelvintay1803 Рік тому +3

    Felt like you could have split the scandals between the competitive league and the game itself with so many scandals they had

  • @Daltoniss
    @Daltoniss Рік тому +2

    For all the bad rep lootboxes in gaming get, their implementation in OW1 was actually really nice and mostly inoffensive. That system was unironically great and I think many are scared to admit it due to the stigma around the topic in general.

  • @ryanbolin4980
    @ryanbolin4980 Рік тому +13

    It still amazes me how hard they destroyed such a great game

  • @MegaMitchZero
    @MegaMitchZero Рік тому +1

    The ending made me laugh for a solid minute.

  • @Necrobadger
    @Necrobadger Рік тому +7

    I'm sorry, there was absolutely NO reason to get rid of the Tracer pose. Literally the only issue with it and her character was the assumption that it was done for MALE watchers. She would absolutely show off for women.

    • @Necrobadger
      @Necrobadger Рік тому +4

      That being said, I still can see why they did it, considering it's easier to do a fake fix than ACTUALLY change the toxic patriarchy blizzard became.

  • @deathatnoon12
    @deathatnoon12 Рік тому +1

    i love how the lootbox system in ow1 was probably the most generous way any game has given players cosmetics

  • @mrosskne
    @mrosskne Рік тому +3

    why do women think they're entitled to comfort? men don't get any such guarantee.

  • @hedgehog8245
    @hedgehog8245 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for reminding me about DJ Khaled not knowing it was a gaming event and saying "Overwatch Me" and doing a little dance.

  • @KiwiLombax15
    @KiwiLombax15 Рік тому +5

    I rather like tracers replacement pose. It reminds me of the art often found on the side of WW2 fighter planes. And considering Tracer is a lesbian pilot, she likely had a pin up like that before she had her accident. Ah, the ancient gentler times when THAT was the biggest issue around the game. Golden days they were...golden days.

  • @sarbnitrof4663
    @sarbnitrof4663 Рік тому +1

    Always puzzles me when someone asks dj Khaled to perform at an event

  • @Lewdvik
    @Lewdvik Рік тому +5

    I remember when Blizzard tried to distract everyone from their huge scandal by making the goofy ass "diversity chart" which they never brought up ever again. Also by revealing the chart they somehow made the game less diverse by confirming three characters were heterosexual, one of them being Zarya, the most butch lesbian looking character in the game

    • @notapplicable6985
      @notapplicable6985 Рік тому +3

      Butch women can be straight
      Like how John Mulaney looks and acts a little gay

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 Рік тому +1

    The change to how you unlock things like skins, sprays, voicelines, all that stuff, is already bad enough for the new players, but then you have the people who paid for the version of overwatch that gave you all of that stuff in droves by simply playing the game and earning lootboxes who now are stuck with pitifully low rates of earning coins to actually get the new stuff, unless they fork over even more money just to get cosmetics at even a fraction of the rate they used to get it.

  • @SumitoMedia
    @SumitoMedia Рік тому +4

    come on bro why Tracer got shoes on in the thumbnail bro lemme see the toooooooooes

    • @Jamaso.
      @Jamaso. 8 місяців тому

      Wtf Sumito.