They Gunned Down Starving Civilians
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#israel #palestine #israelpalestineconflict
"But you don't understand, they were all Hamas, including the people giving the "supposed" aid, so we had no choice" - the government of Israel in a few days
"Among the hungry women there were Hamas operatives". Because you know, all men are a part of Hamas
Only Khamas tries to get food from IDF humanitarian food trucks
"That food was Hummus!" - the government of Israel in a few days.
Wow over hundred likes. It must be fun defending radical Islamist. By the way is there a video from you defending Bin Ladens world view? Just asking.
they'll probably go the Tiananmen Square route, this incident "won't have happened at all" soon
This might just be the most blatant war crime yet
Israel went vaush-pilled on optics
The longer this goes on the more we'll see them taking less precautions to make it seem like they're in the right.
I feel like posing as doctors to kill a patient with guns was a lot more blatant but this is pretty high up there too.
In b4 “just because you feel like it’s a war crime doesn’t make it the dictionary definition of a war crime.” People
@@Kloutkulture
Here to represent the "I know better than the Geneva Convention" crowd, huh?
Next month’s IDF statement: “We never invaded Gaza at all, the Palestinians genocided themselves to pin the blame ob us!”
'Those people we have been starving ran into our bullets. We are the victims.'
"There were Hamas plants in the IDF"
@@bloods4903It's a genocide. Stop being a willfully blind liar.
All those airstrikes were false flag attacks. Thats why they used unguided bombs instead of the super sophisticated US made smart bombs.
-An IDF Spokesperson from the future probably.
@@bloods4903Yup, those bombs sure are rescuing tons of hostages.
"They were too desperate for the food we were denying them" is just an insane justification
I think the aid trucks were a trap set by Israel to lure out Palestinians to their deaths.
I suspect in many cases it’s an important component of genocide to force increasingly inhumane conditions on the group for the express purpose that the group will display increasingly desperate behaviour. Psychologically, for the exterminating group, it’s easy to look at that behaviour and go “I would never do that, that behaviour is a product of that group being intrinsically disgusting and animalistic, not their circumstances”. It provides a better psychological justication for physical extermination.
The Nazis really liked taking films inside Jewish ghettos and going “look what disgusting conditions these people live in” and using it as propaganda.
"See, they love bombing shit and living in open sewage"
- Ben -Goebbels- Shapiro
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Ha! Got 3 likes before my comment was manually removed. Cope harder, Ben Shapiro stans.
Love the angry cinnamon roll pfp.
Were the Jews launching attacks at Berlin and Munich from their ghettos? Or getting millions in aide from international sources?
@@rogirek3362I can see your comment
"I swear those starving civilians were reaching! ...for that food."
IDF soldier: "Sir, I have a gluten intolerance."
That food was full of Hamas.
He's got a baguette!
@@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracydo you denounce ƙçĥĺĺamas?
In times of famine people have milled acorns and pine cones for flour. Coincidence? I think not!
They've done this before. At Jenin, nearly 10 years ago, IDF declared a lock down, and when it was over, announced they could leave. Right when the Palestinians left to gather supplies, the IDF opened fire anyway.
“They gunned down starving civilians.”
Is anybody actually surprised at this point?
Surprised-no, Angry-yes
nope
Par for the course. Reminds me of Nazi Germany.
Not even a little bit. I don't know, and don't want to find out, what it would take to surprise me at this point.
To the contrary. This is what I expect from the Israeli government.
Yelling fire in a crowd is considered intentionally causing chaos and panic with the intent to cause human harm. But shooting live rounds at a crowd of starving people isn't?
I imagine the count wasn't released when this was recorded, but over 150 people were killed and nearly 1000 injured, this is the most bloody incident of the entire war so far, and it wasn't even a military engagement
they said 140 then 107 then 70 now you ramp it up back to 150??
@@leandrrobit’s almost like you get a final count after a thorough medical examination, in midst of a war…. Hasbara iq
@@timmysleftnutsack5075 It's almost like those medical examiners are members of Hamas and that Hamas benefits the higher the numbers that they make up.
@@Reticulated_Spline this is just the JQ but for Hamas
@@Reticulated_Spline "Everyone I don't like is Hamas"
But did the flour condemn Hamas!?
Official IDF statement: flour is the preferred food of choice of Hamas
But we condemn Hummus.
Breaking news from IDF Twitter: we discovered that Hamas was INSIDE the flour bags
Saying that the IDF is only responsible for the death of 10 people who according to the IDF itself were shot (according to the doctors on the ground, 80% of patients were gunshot patients, not trampled, but ok), while the rest were killed by a human stampede (of people running away of psychopaths shooting them, so understandable) is like saying that the organizers of 9/11 are only responsible for one or two deaths, the ones that they needed to get into the cockpits of the planes, and the rest were the unfortunate result of plane crashes and towers falling down.
Not only is the IDF fully responsible for every single death and injure, but it is also responsible for the situation that lead to such desperation, AND as days pass by, they seem to be responsible for also causing this on purpose, as it seems that the whole convoy was set like a trap from the very beginning.
This is unironically Nazi stuff that you see in the films to show how evil they were. This is the level of sick evilness that would get your manuscript rejected for being "too on the nose and explicit, this would never happen".
Reality is so often much more absurd and cruel than fiction.
Maybe I’m dumb but the first time I heard someone say “flour massacre “ I thought it was flower . Realizing it’s flour , as in for food makes the name hurt so much more
Reminds me of when in the Hunger Games they start eating dandelions
Yeah, starvation seems simple and quick ("you starve if you don't eat after a few weeks"), but Stalingrad shows us that it's more complicated. People will eat mastic, leather, cadavres and saving their forces to survive.
The Irish famine shows they will just riot as well. Not blaming them but starvation does tend to bring out the worst in a person
there are 2M rabs in isrel, israely citizens, isrel protects 2M arabas and hamas wants to kill every single one of them, one side has a 100% genocidal moto "from the river to the sea" the other side protects 2M arabs from amas rockets
@@zombieoverlord5173 They already did that, that was Oct 7.
Hangry starved people create tough and angry people.
@@thewhitefalcon8539bullshit. Hamas =|= Palestinian People. Also, gunning down civilians is not rioting.
We saw two weeks of debate over the al-ahli arab hospital strike, while the same people are silent during war crimes like this. Pay attention to which creators you follow talked about al-ahli arab but aren't talking about this. The silence is intentional
We talking David Pakman right now?
@@1123elemental100%
Brianna Wu is spreading anti-semitic bullshit on her Twitter. I completely agree with you.
David Pakman is a snake, total Israel shill
@zao7556 so we should just not give any food to civilians because there is a possibility that a militant might get it?
Yet most of the trampled had bullet holes in them.
@@chadtyroneyou find genocide funny? Says alot about you.
Indeed, it's rather fascinating how that works, I mean who knew, that when someone is shooting into a large crowd of starving desperate people, it will cause them to panic and people will get trampled...?
(Yeah, everybody knows this and everybody with any capacity of rational thought can figure out that even if someone was actually getting trampled prior to the first shots being fired, (which I haven't seen any evidence of), then opening fire, even just warning shots, will cause panic, and when people are found with bullet wounds, it's no longer "warning shots" - and it's honestly deeply concerning that apparently it's just okay for the media and politicians to play dumb and pretend this wasn't a massacre...!
Citation needed
Where did you see that?
Vaush fans are allergic to sources provemewrong
South Africa's big massacre that caused a huge wave of sanctions and international protests was 69 peaceful protesters.
this is 112 starving survivors
Don't bet on that repeating; good outcomes are statistical outliers historically.
@SalvoBrick-eg3uo i agree, unfortunately, but what makes it even more disgusting is Joe Biden was one of the most outspoken senators against South Africa
this is 1 big hamas lie, stop being a tool of terrorists
@@SalvoBrick-eg3uo I'm pretty hopeful right now. The sanctions probably not, but the condemnations have been heavy handed, even by the US. Moreover the fact that Biden is now openly talking about cease fire and the fact that it's being pushed to go into effect before 10th by US and Palestinian authority.
@@leandrrob the idf admitted that they fired shots. Shut up
People talk of Isreal as if it is a complicated issue. There is no complication: One side has the power to stop the killing and the other is dying.
Yes, Hamas can stop attacking music festivals at any time.
@@hermithefrog629 Ah yes, the music festival where these starving civilians were waiting for food that Isreal has cut them off from
@@hermithefrog629 You know I go to a lot of music festivals and I've been killed by Hamas at exactly 0 of them. Almost like it's Isreal's fault for encouraging tourism to, what is in their own words, a warzone.
@@inurokuwarz
While knowing from intelligence sources that the risk of an attack was extremely high, and instead of either cancelling said festival or at least crank security up to a hundred, they pulled most of the IDF forces in the area to do work elsewhere at the time....
@@hermithefrog629
Can Israeli Settlers stop their illegal settlements and Israel stop the imprisonment of millions of Palestinians in the world's biggest prison camp where conditions are even worse than the Jewish Ghetto in Warsaw during WW2...
The infamous "warning shot in the head" crowd control technique. it was all the rage in early 1940's Germany.
takes a special kind of monster to try and use peoples desperation to get supplies to justify not giving them supplies.
standard jenna-side stuff. The not.seas did it too.
There comes a point where people have to put aside any personal sympathies and biases, and acknowledge the obvious, "This action was evil."
no there doesn't
@@thewhitefalcon8539 Fake account
@@thewhitefalcon8539I like how this comment implies Israel can do literally anything and it's fine
The evil cant admit evil
@@taffinjones8641It's true. Same for any country with backing from a Security Council member. Saudis, North Koreans, Israelis, can do whatever since a big country backs them.
It's weird how UA-cam keeps removing/hiding my comments when I criticize Israel but comments posting blatant anti-semitism are allowed to stay up.
I've noticed that too. In this comment section.
Also with “Netanyahu” mentioned too
I’ve had white genocide conspiracy bullshit suggested to me on UA-cam and Facebook. All the social media platforms are deliberately pushing this Nazi bullshit.
UA-cam's comment filter AI is absolute trash, that's why it keeps happening.
@@rickyhits6547 It's bizarre. There's one guy just openly posting jq comments down below and somehow UA-cam thinks that's all right but criticizing war crimes isn't.
Literally saw CBN on youtube label their headline "Tragic Stampede". Vaush def called it
Yeah I remember Iraq you can't trust the mainstream news on this stuff right now. They won't outright lie or give misinfo but they will omit, spin spin and spin
There were definitely tanks involved. There's *tonnes* of footage of tanks sitting in an overwatch position from the crowd.
You say this and don’t like it?
IDF winning hearts and minds by recreating the opening scene of Black Hawk Down
Yeah, I don't think my uncle, who was apart of the very actions that inspired Black Hawk Down, is gonna look good trying to justify this "in the name of"
I love him to death and respect the hell out of him and his sacrifice as a gun for the system, but the fact he went from experiencing the violence of colonial genocide, to defending it, is really fucking sad
And my best friend is a veteran who is having a hard time with the self immolation thing
He told me he should have as well if he hadn't retired, And he felt a burden onto him as someone who already partook in the Iraq war and knew what he was forced to do and see.
Being a veteran who isn't submissive to the system must be such a fucking tragic and complicated point of view to be in I can't even begin to explain it further lol
But yeah, Black Hawk Down does a great job putting that kind of shit into context for your average person, even if that means the average veteran watching it prolly has multiple panic attacks.
But I don't think military movies are for veterans and service members anyways, unless they are propaganda.
@@MulkeyBlueQuartet I can quasi-relate to this sentiment. After High School, I was going into the Navy but wasn’t taken bc of medical reasons. By the time my recruiter got bk to me, I had already started working, made the decision to go to college, etc.
But I still maintain, despite everything horrible that the US has done, and contrary to the sentiments of all the left-leaning people I studied with in my government classes, that if there came a day when America truly needed me, I would move mountains to serve on one of her ships.
Now I’m not so sure.
@@funsea4167 I feel this a lot
My friend only joined the war to "save America" and that isn't what ended up happening
Most veterans I know are left leaning people for one reason or another, there are 1 million good reasons someone could want to join an army that is supposed to protect people,it's why militant leftism is so "hot" (for lack of a better way to describe "cool but more" haha) because it is the same thing without the American flag or USSR flag behind it.
I kinda trailed off but I think my overall point is that the treatment and perception of military is very screwed for a lot of understandable reasons but it also hinders critical and productive thought about the values and purpose of joining such a system, for any reason.
And that there is a lot of complicated angles of pressure being out into all party's and people's who partake in a system that affects everyone on earth
And also the fact that it seems very hard to choose to do somethingkke that, even if it's for a teriur motive like becoming a leftist leaning sergeant or something haha
Peace and love and apologies for the long winded response haha
Full of admiration for Owen Jones. His is one of very few voices in the UK advocating for Palestinians right now.
Agreed
"Most moral army" strikes again.
Its disgusting. Primo Levi wrote exactly about this type of abuse against the civilian population when in his book described after grueling hours couped in box cars the Nazis would let them out for a short time so people would obviously urinate on railway tracks. Because it was done in front of a passive population, they'd look upon this in disgust and think the behaviour was less than an animal and the prisoners were welcome to their fate.
Its not a war. Hammas doesn't have the support of the population (who wasn't old enough to vote them in), only a month before 7th Oct, brave Palestinians were protesting shouting "Fuck Hammas". Its a genocide. I'm just glad TicToc is saving the war crimes in real time.
Off topic, but the fact that it's so easy to find snuff nowadays is quite unsettling.
And I do agree on your stance on the footage but it should saved in trusted private achives, not easily accessible to the public.
For one it does nothing to influence people either too callous or stupid to understand the crimes commited, and another, is the folk that do understand are already convinced, so it only confirms by showing gratuitous violence, sometimes causing mental harm as it can affect you if you see enough heads getting blown off, I speak from experience.
@@mekannatarry1929 I'm sorry you have to speak from experience. I'm deeply moved by your 'off topic'.
Whenever safe, tell people of that hard fought for wisdom. Keeping legacy is one of the most precious things you can make whole to others.
Best wishes.
And they say Israel is defending itself
My parents are old-school, 60-year-old liberals whose foreign policy can be summed up as "September 12, 2001". They openly admitted to my brother that when a Middle-Eastern family moved across the street in the mid-2000s, they profiled them and were prejudiced against them.
I can't wait to hear what their excuse for this is. Probably something like, "Oh, that was just a rogue group of IDF soldiers, Netanyahu would never personally order any of his soldiers to do that!".
@@alexthomas2558 on the news the idf is saying the crowd walked towards the soldiers that's why they shot. Shooting unarmed civilians is a no no.
there is multiple video os hamaes shooting civiliansd that wanted to grab the food @@SteadyEddie543-cb4uv
@@leandrrobthis is like when Republicans blamed Jan 6 on antifa
@@SteadyEddie543-cb4uveven if everything they said was 100% true. why in god's name are you shooting a crowd of starving people for moving toward the closest and likely only food source they've seen in a *long* time?
Every accusation is a confession
does this include vaush
*Every accusation by a rightist
Yeah... Vague, blanket statements like this are fucking stupid and you should feel stupid for saying it.
I don’t really see the logic behind this. If someone says “You stole my sandwich!” What is this supposed to be a confession of?
It's referring specifically to tendencies of right wing political orgs/politicians/pundits. They tend to get caught doing exactly what they accuse others of. @hoolio5659
"Israel controls the sea"
Israel controls what our navy allows them to control, including their land.
So "Israel controls the Sea" is still a factual statement - although it has been proven before that they don't care about Americans trying to restrict them.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, you should read about the USS Liberty incident in 1967...
I think you might want to rephrase that. except if you desperately want the US to again puff their chest and play world police. because thaz has worked so well since the end of the cold war xD
@@Komischer0815nick ...nothing I said is inaccurate. No need to rephrase it.
@@Komischer0815nick Israel is a colonial state (essentially a "real" Brittish colony) depending massively on the western nations to keep the colony chugging along.
USS Liberty incident...
There were tanks and drones. Apparently IDF in the tanks got skeered of the crowd.
Trucks did report scattering and running over a few people...AFTER IDF STARTED SHOOTING.
I'm so fucking angry. We are witnessing true evil and we're powerless to stop it.
@@chadtyrone
I agree, it's like reliving Nazi Germany. The irony being that the Nazi victims are the Nazi now themselves.
We are powerless in regards to what is happening today, but we must put all the pressure we can on our political representatives and media.
Unfortunately it's a lot harder in one of the most influential countries (the USA).
But here in Northern Europe we are seeing more and more politicians show greater and greater concern about what IDF is doing!
Unfortunately it's a slow process and the Israeli government is trying to do as much harm as they can get away with in a timespan that is growing shorter and shorter the more the horrors are getting exposed and our politicians are being pressured to realize that the alliance with Israel and the West might have too large a cost and not as necessary as the belief used to be....
@@gorillaguerillaDK 100%. We cant let Biden to be president again. Make America great again.
@@danfens5932
The most intelligent MAGA people have the brain capacity of toddlers - the rest is far below that bar.
Ever thought about what role the Trump/Pence administrationen had in aligning Saudi Arabia and the far right in Israel who's currently responsible for the massacre we're seeing in Gaza?
Of course it's also the same administration's who by moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem instead of Tel Aviv made a de-facto statement about considering Jerusalem as Israelian territory and not a split territory as it is seen by International Law.
Speaking of Trump, isn't it also interresting how Trump praised Xi for how he is dealing with the Uyghurs in China, instead of condemning the massive human rights violations conducted by China?
Perhaps Erik Prince had funneled some of that sweet Chinese money he was making in Xinjiang into Trump's pockets?
I mean, putting a lot of money in Trumps pockets where how Eriks sister got the gig as Secretary of Education!
Funny, that reminds me, funneling a lot of money into Trump's pockets waa also how the massive Arms deals with Saudia Arabia that the Obama/Biden administration had put a veto on, suddenly got expedited very quickly...
It's also interresting how many who were part of the Trump campaign who went on and got convicted of having dirty laundry hanging in Russia.
The same country that stands to benefit the most if Trump pulls America out of NATO.
Now speaking of NATO, do you know that the country that has benefitted the most from being a member of NATO, is America?
9/11 triggered article 5!
And if it hadn't been for NATO, POTUS Kennedy wouldn't have known about the tactical nuclear missiles that were heading for Cuba, before they had been planted there.
Now I do understand that MAGA-brains aren't capable of such complex thoughts, but try anyway to imagine how it will affect intelligence the USA is receiving from allies, if these allies stops trusting the USA?
Of course you will fail to understand the importance of these issues.
Just like you will fail to understand that some of the largest donors to the GOP are "Think Tanks" and Evangelical American Oligarchs who have wet dreams of Israel becoming "Greater Israel", and the "End Times" starting....
So starving people panics when shot at, and it ends in a stampee.
Oh, and why is the IDF even there to begin with?
Let NGO's handle the delivery of aid, and keep IDF far away from it...
i know vietnam was a very different time and situation but im surprised we havent seen a movement to that extent of young people creating a culture against the war. i know that we've seen teens and young adults contesting the war but i hope this event becomes a catalyst for a new movement. forgive me if my analogies suck im too young to be here, probably
I think the outrage against the war in Vietnam was that young American men were being sent off to die. My dad was worried about being drafted if it went on for a few more years.
With this, people can disengage from it because it isn’t directly happening to them.
Even with what the commenter above said, the youth are far more anti-israel than previous generations, so it is happening a little.
@@slowbro173 thats a really good point
Much harder now that us is a prison state with invasive observation. More people are working to destroy the us than fix it. It cannot be fixed. Us will look like gaza in a few years
@spicekai4486 right, i didnt consider desensitization
How do you fire "warning shots INTO the crowd". Those are not warning shots buddy
Anyone else wondering whether the aid convoy was only able to get in because the IDF intended to use it as bait?
I wouldn't be surprised at this point. :(
That occurred to me as well. I thought, why would they allow an aid convoy now? And, if the info on the tanks and drones are true, why would an aid convoy be so heavily armed? Throw in the comments about 'this is why we can't do aid' and it looks a lot like an orchestrated event.
@@kolbymontooth508And apparently neither the UN nor any of the countries working with them on the humanitarian aid effort sent that convoy - it really looks like it was an Israeli operation, designed as bait from the start.
I wondered this as well
How anyone can look at this without feeling existential horror is really a mystery to me.
This is just Bloody Sunday but literally 109 years later
Bloody Sunday was in 1972
@@conorflynn6666 Bloody Sunday happened in 1905 in Imperial Russia. I’m fact I was off by a decade.
The IDF's excuse sounds insane in isolation, but remember that essentially the same excuse is valid when used by American Police Officers. Shooting civilians because you think they look scary is considered a valid defense in US courts. So I guess they are pandering to their intended audience.
This was my first thought as well. The IDF excuse here reminded me of George Zimmerman’s rationale, or the kid who had a toy gun, “look, a black kid, I’m scared! So I’ll shoot and it’s fine!”
How dare those innocent civilians starve!!
Word to the wise, I can see this comment is sarcastic, but it's not obvious which bit of it is supposed to be the sarcasm, and it could be easily read as in support of either side.
@@manjackson2772
Came here to say this
@manjackson2772 That's the f'ed part.
Famines are always man-made, and can be fixed with direct food aid....but have huge death tolls when that food aid never arrives. The British did this to Bengal in 1942.
The British did this to Bengal in 1942. And Bombay in 1905. And Bihar in 1873. And Orissa in 1866. And Agra in 1836. But enough about India...
And Ireland in 1845. And...
@@rogirek3362 And Palestine in 2024
If this doesn't look like Nazi Germany. It seems the victims have become the villains.
Not Nazi Germany, those uniforms weren't black
@@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy but it is nazi germany...simply by actions
@@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracywho give af about uniforms? Was this meant to be funny?
Correct me, but having been taught nearly everything bad the nazis ever did in school theres only really.. two events that were worse than this I'm aware of? (reichkristallnacht and Nacht der langen messer)
And those events had months of planning and fanning the flames until popular violence occured, not an event where the military just mowed people down...
Not even the victims. Nobody in IDF has experienced it. It's worth noting that suffering doesn't seem to teach people how to be better. Suffering just causes suffering. That's all
every time i see something about egypt being "concerned" about or "condemning" israel's actions i'm fucking furious. they are, after the US, the second country with the most power to do something about this. the fact that they haven't opened their border with gaza and let in anyone who wanted to escape is, as far as i'm concerned, a crime against humanity. egypt is complicit in everything that's happening, they've since day one happily served as the wall against which israel is holding palestinians
There are good reasons the Egyptians don't let the Palestinians inside their borders.
That's a funny little narrative you got going there.
@@KennyBare They already got about 8 million refugees + the last time they took the Palestinians it didn't end well. Let's just say they don't get along to well.
I believe Egypt has made a threat to end their peace treaty with Isreal should they cause the forced displacement of Palestinians across the border. (the citizens are conflicted, as they feel for the Palestinians, but they recognize that displacement as part of genocide and that allowing it would mean the Gazans will not be allowed to return)
I haven't kept up with any recent movements on that situation, but last I heard that was probably the most impactful threat anyone has given Isreal because it would introduce yet another potential front to the conflict and draw resources away from elsewhere.
Egypt shouldn't be forced to take refugees just because that's what Israel wants.
Egypt knows that large refugee camps at their borders easily could be the next target for IDF.
This part is extremely complicated for a lot of people to understand.
But the ultra Zionists in Israel consider the Peninsula of Sinai an area belonging to Israel.
They were furious when this became Egyptian again.
They also consider BOTH shores of the river part of Israel, so where some of the Palestinians want Palestine from the river to the sea, some Israelis want both banks of the Dead Sea and the Jordan river - so what their most wet dreams are about is "Greater Israel", containing Jordan, Lebanon, the Peninsula of Sinai, half of Iraq, large part of Syria, and a nice chunk of Saudi Arabia....
I always wondered what it was like to watch the Rwandan Genocide in real time and for the West to do nothing
Except in the same amount of time more than 20x as many people died in Rwanda…
I was in college
@@rickybobby5153"well you see liberal this genocide is waaay smaller!!" 🤣
@@vercingetorixarverni6343 You understand what genocide is right? It is attempting to eliminate a group of people. At the current rate it would take about 50 years
@@rickybobby5153Its incredibly obvious that you're the one that's never looked at the actual parameters for what entails genocide and genocidal action.
Don't be a pathetic person spreading lies. Educate yourself on the conditions that can be described as genocide better than you have.
When you dole out food like an illicit drug to starving people what do you expect
"Never again".
What a cruel twisted irony.
I honestly don’t know if the IDF has currently lied to me more than all the US Armed Forces combined
Closing in on CIA numbers.
I mean is there really a difference between the two at this point
@@itsmarinah my god. That’s truer than true stew. And that’s no goo
This is sickening. How many more atrocities until this is stopped.
This will continue until Christianity is gone.
Islam is already becoming a more common religion, christianity being gone will do nothing as others have the same issue.
Honestly I've been thinking on abolishing religious freedom in general, as even the most well meaning folk's reason for practice come from self hate or fear of death.
Belief in something is one thing, but your reasons why need to be understood as never being sound, they're coping mechanisms for a deeper problem.
@@mekannatarry1929 it’s quite a difficult thing to reconcile I feel. I by no means am looking for an argument, but while religion is a (deeply) faulty tool for bringing about a sense of ease surrounding death, meaning in life, social identity/belonging, and a baseline set of moral values. It will persist so long as we do not have readily available and pushed adequate mechanisms for bringing about these things ourselves. I don’t think the average person; especially so those who are working multiple minimum wage jobs etc.; have the capacity in terms of time, awareness, or money to go about searching for guiding philosophies, generating class consciousness, ethical frameworks, and confronting death. It’s too heavy an ask of the general population. Even more so if we look at it through the lense of education and power dynamics. We can propagate these ideas as much as we’d like but the sad truth is some guy in a suit could come along, speak in eccentric word salads, and people will hear buzz words assuming what is being said is legitimate without analysing the actual points made merely due to a perceived sense of authority and intellect. All that to say, so long as critical thinking isn’t taught and mandated(not critical thinking itself but the education of it) on a federal/international level, so long as people are allowed to grow up in echo chambers which do not promote critical engagement, so long as people feel uncomfortable with the idea of non essentialist thought, the problems surrounding religion will persist, in the form of divinity or not. Religion is not the cause, it’s the symptom.
While I very mush wish religion was gone, that alone wouldn't solve this. A lot of what's going on there now is fueled by people wanting the land, AND by Oil Politics that the US really really wants to protect.
Even if overnight everyone forgot about religion as a concept, practically nothing about this conflict would change.
A lotta people killed by being trampled. Strangely, a lot of injured people in hospital are being treated for gunshot wounds. I wonder how that happened...
1. what was the intended purpose of that drone flying over (filming) the whole thing? If not to shoot into the whole croud from above? did they hope to get amazing intell from watching hundreds of people around a truck?
2. if they had this drone (or even more than one? dont know) filming the thing from above, why is there no footage of the time where over 100 people died? if not because that part was conveniently NOT shared with the world, because it shew something the IDF definitely does not want the world to see?
Is it too cynical to think the IDF were using the aid convoy as bait?
Yes, the IDF have way less roundabout ways to kill palestinians and this probably wasn’t an order to ‘shoot at the crowd’ just one soldier freaking out and other’s following the lead
Not at all. We won't ever know if it was planned that way or the troops on the ground saw a good opportunity to rack up their scores.
No. Even in these comments people came up with new qar crimes and it turns out they did it already
Israelis were protesting the aid for months
so no
The idea very early on that if something near this would have happened in America "we would be the biggest terrorists on the planet" is so fucking real and this video is one of the ones that are going to be the endpoint of that. We all would have joined Hamas in the West. How do you watch something like this happen to your own people and then still remain calm.
"we saw what happened to everyone who just wanted to talk what do you expect us to do now? talk?"
Israel does an israel
Israel...I honestly don't know what to say, or how I could possibly express it, but...shame on you. 💔
But do you condemn Hummus?
The Jwish people should all be ashamed
I'm extremely disappointed in the jwish people in general.
@@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracyyes
@@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracyMmm, hummus.
Reminds me of Bloody Sunday in Ireland ... only the death toll is far higher in Gaza .. depressingly sad .. Free Palestine!
"we CANT airdrop aid into gaza, israel won't let us!"
**team america slowly begins to play in the distance**
At this point, the most surprising thing about this situation to me is that the trucks had any food inside them and weren't just carrying extra troops
ICJ gonna hit the history books hard with the flour massacre verduct
When the climate change famines start this is going to look like child's play. If you're under 35 you're likely to experience an interesting world.
Not making light of the situation, but this was literally the opening of The Running Man.
The book or the movie? They are entirely different and i dont remember it in either so i am curious
@@adamsmasher9769 The movie. Arnold was a helicopter pilot that refused to open fire on a food riot. He was then framed for the massacre and put in prison.
The book was very different, and I think far superior to the movie.
The flour was KHAAAAMASSSSS
The IDF soldiers were actually…. (Checks notes) ALSO KHAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAs
The IDF shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the aid convoys. Israel isn't going to come back from this.
I think Biden’s response here actually will determine whether or not he gets my vote in November. He is objectively the lesser of two evils in this scenario, but the smarmy way the dnc is going to shrug this one off is just the worst.
He immediately said "hope springs eternal"... don't know wtf he is hoping for.
And after seeing how effective using aid trucks as bait to lure starving civilians into the open has been, his response is to.. drop aid in open areas to draw civilians out... intentional or not, it's dumb as fck
I mean, you can hate Biden for his stance/actions towards this, but all you're doing by not voting for him is actively allowing Fascism to take over and Project 2025 to come into fruition.
I'm not excusing anything Biden or the DNC has been doing, it's simply that we have no other choice between voting for them and the legitimately racist, sexist, and evil Fascists currently running as the opposition.
I ran out of room on my Isreal war crime bingo card a while ago....
Arguably the most morally wrong thing that the IDF has done in this war
that we know about
I remember in the movie Black Hawk Down, they villanized the Somali militants for shooting civilians at food trucks. Israel is doing the same thing
I'm desperate, I just want to know WHY our officials are doing this, the real honest reason why. I would give anything to know what they're thinking right now
they are demons
"the long awaited cannibalism" jesus christ.
its like israel is trying to be stopped, but no one cares or dares. what a world
I read this title in the same tone as "They did surgery on a grape"
8:20 "What's Israel going to do? Shoot our planes down?" Yes, they would. USS Liberty Incident.
Monstrous.
Im literally sick as a dog right now, i shouldn't be watching this stuff. It makes me feel exponentially worse 😕
if any other country carried out atrocities of this scale, the UN security council would've long since authorized military action against them. military action was authorized against iraq, yugoslavia, & libya for less than this.
This feels like some Tsarist Russia type of shit
13:56 literally reads exactly like something that vought would use as a cover up speech for a homelander massacre in the boys. It’s LITERAL satire
*This war is just horrible no matter many times the IDF kept on killing and killing and killing.*
damn be youtube making me like this
little did he know, the food truck was actually driven by john hamas and all the crates and cans were full of guns and bombs
At some point in this video, my body just rejected the sheer rage I feel and I started maniacally laughing like I was losing my mind. Owen is right. I mean, watching this whole hell is mad-making.
The holy land is cursed
Hamas is so sneaky; they covertly shot people to frame those poor IDF soldiers who were only firing warning shots. 😒
You're joking, right?
@@gorillaguerillaDK Yes
@@Shadowcam00
Thank you for the clarification - unfortunately I've seen such statements from people who weren't joking in other comment threads...
If this doesn't get Israel in trouble idk what can anymore. Maybe this is the only way people will see the futility of harming themselves further in the name of protest when nothing can even put a dent on this "war".
I just saw Israel defenders just making bald faced lies about the fact that Hamas was shooting the crowds, and then saying that the crowds were Hamas when it was pointed out to them that the IDF was the ones shooting. They're just gonna lie shamelessly about it and unfortunately some people are just gonna believe them.
Seriously? You're using a completely unrelated massacre to finger wag a dead man? Ghoul.
@@manjackson2772Oh yeah unrelated, let's ask said dead man why he's dead. News to me that saying "people shouldn't harm themselves" counts as "ghoul" to you people ow.
@@piccoloatburgerking I mean using atrocities as an excuse to concern troll about a different topic is objectively ghoulish
@@gamakujira64e23 DO you even know what you're saying? It's not "concern trolling" to simply say what happened. You people are just a more zealous version of liberals.
According to the ICRC,
“The prohibition of mutilating dead bodies in international armed conflicts is covered by the war crime of “committing outrages upon personal dignity” under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, which according to the Elements of Crimes also applies to dead persons (see commentary to Rule 90).[8]”
Christians LOVE it
Of course. Most christians are evil.
Support grassroots initiatives like Operation Olive Branch where we try to raise funds to help Palestinian families survive.
The IDF could come out and say the sky is blue. And I would be inclined to double check
Support from a fan
free plestine!
From arabs😊
@@14warriorOfZion88bait. follow your leader.
@@14warriorOfZion88and you terrorism shills say that it isn't a genocide
I think all the things happened. I think Israel created a desperate hunger situation for the Palestinians. Desperate hungry Palestinians swarmed the aid trucks to be the first inline to get the aid. Israeli soldiers felt threatened by the number of desperate hungry Palestinians. Israeli soldiers started shooting at the desperate hungry Palestinians. The truck drivers panicked at the shooting and they ran over desperate hungry Palestinians as the truck drivers attempted to flee the gunfire. Desperate hungry Palestinians panicked by the Israeli gunfire, trampled each other as they tried to escape the Israeli gunfire. I mean all these things can be true at the same time but the responsibility is squarely on the Israelis for creating this situation.
I can never forgive Biden and most democrats for their inaction on helping the Palestinian people.
Very cool, very normal.
This ones for the books
The fact they are only showing air footage in an angle it only makes the people look like ants.
I hope the food trucks weren't bait...
Important. Stop this genocide.
again?
It's almost like they shouldn't have been delivering the aid, UNRWA should have been
You mean the people with employees complicit in 7th October