Perfect timing for this series! I recently saw your video on mouthwash negatively effecting the oral microbiome by killing good bacteria along with the bad. It got me thinking if my tongue scraping was having a similar negative effect by scraping the good away with the bad. But I couldn't find any studies that had been done on that. Hopefully this series will answer my questions.
@@veggiemetal7812 I don't recall, but I'll dig around and see if it can find it for you. If I remember correctly I think it was titled incorrectly because I remember being confused as to why it was talking about mouthwash. And he has a video titled "don't use antiseptic mouthwash" but that video is about Nitrates and never mentions mouthwash. I'll let you know if I find it
Hi, regarding the bacteria, cleaning the tongue could have a positive effect here. (One should do it carefully to prevent possible tissue injuries - don't know if micro injuries still can be caused though - which are the issue of the latest video of this channel regarding tongue scraping.) Some time ago I saw a video (on an other channel I think), which mentioned I guess certain results of this study : 'Frequency of Tongue Cleaning Impacts the Human Tongue Microbiome Composition and Enterosalivary Circulation of Nitrate' In the study they e.g. say: '...Therefore, tongue-cleaning does have a significant impact on tongue bacterial community composition, and daily cleaning (either once or twice) results in an increased proportion of H. parainfluenza and other Proteobacteria, which are major nitrate and nitrite reducing species of the oral cavity (Hyde et al., 2014).' '....From our analysis, regular tongue cleaning results in a tongue microbiome that has a greater ability to reduce nitrite to NO, and conversely, failure to clean the tongue daily results in a microbiome composition that is less favorable to NO production, but instead appears to favor conversion of nitrite to ammonia.' A part of the authors seem to be connected here with the health industry for microbiome / No, but I don't see a conflict in this case. And from an other study I found, called Influence of tongue brushing on oral microbiome diversity: '....Our results showed that physical cleaning using a tongue brush does not increase the α diversity of the tongue coating microbiota (Fig. 2). We also showed that tongue brushing can alter the abundance of certain bacterial species. Interestingly, the list of affected OTUs were different across the different oral cleaning methods. As shown in Fig. 7, tongue brushing increased the abundance of P. melaninogenica, a species with a low risk of aspiration pneumonia, and decreased P. histicola, a species with a high risk of aspiration pneumonia.'
I've been brushing my tongue for 8 years with a modified wide toothbrush. I found out the tongue is the main source of bad breath back then. After buying an already wide brush, I bite on it with my teeth to widen the hairs. It's much more effective than more common brushes, I simply don't understand why more people do this. Brushing a few minutes is more than enough. It's the best way to lessen your bad breath. White plague always seems to appear while sleeping, even though when taking a nap for two hours it's negligible. So sleep needs to be longer than that. I also buy cloves in a few hundreds of grams every many months. Taking two cloves before sleeping is another ideal way to prevent white plague appearing. I've been doing that for a while as well. And as Greger explained elsewhere, it's extremely high in antioxidants as well. It's the best antibacterial, high antioxidant way for me to counter best breath as well.
I’ve been using a copper tongue scraper for years now! It’s amazing. Apparently it’s an old Ayurvedic practice. Such a cheap tool and in my experience makes a big difference. In that one study they compared it to listerine, it appeared you get the benefits but presumably without the negative effects of these harsh mouthwashes that you alerted us to. Why just ‘brush’ over that part? 😊
Talk about timing! I bought a couple of tongue scrapers this morning. Then I look at youtube to see a Dr. Greger videos released just 11 hours prior on the same day. \o/ Thank you!
Practically speaking, I sometimes scrape my tongue to get a taste out of my mouth or to enhance my ability to taste things which the gunk seems to affect. It is helpful when your tongue is burning from spicy food, more helpful than anything else that I've tried for a burning tongue. I feel a perceivable difference and when I haven't scraped my tongue for too long I notice. One trick to help reduce gagging is to try to force an exaggerated smile when you are sticking out your tongue, which apparently counteracts the gag-reflex to some degree. Otherwise, I can get only about 3/5 or 2/3 back on my tongue without gagging but I still can't scrape all the way back without gagging.
Who said scraping would have an effect on those things? The only reason i do it is for bad breath. And honestly i feel like my mouth is cleaner after scraping in the morning or if you just ate something that will not go away. Its STUCK in your mouth somehow. Scrape your tongue and that will fix that. Its good practice to do everyday. PPL wont suddenly back off when you start talking, or, stop offering you gum and tick tacks. Yea that's a sign. 😂 Be a clean person. Dont offend others by your lack of hygiene.
wow, hard to imagine that someone who has suffered from bad breath could be so insensitive! There are many causes of bad breath including oral diseases, sinus, gut issues etc and none of these have anything at all to do with a person’s hygiene . Ignorant comments like yours are the reason so many people suffer unnecessarily from this condition
Tongue scraping (do it gently!) is also helpful for removing excess toothpaste without having to rinse out mouth after brushing. It can be very beneficial to leave the toothpaste ingredients on teeth (no rinsing) to aid in cavity prevention and desensitization.
Dr Esselstyn talks a lot about the beneficial bacteria that reside in the crypts and grooves of the tongue. (Producing the critical cardiovascular chemical nitric oxide). I hope Dr Greger series touches on this. Also, what is the effect of daily flushing of the nasal cavity? Recent research indicates that the paranasal sinuses are also intimately involved in the production of this chemical.
Obviously everything modern we do that isn't in line with nature and evolution is bad. It will take us a few more decades to figure out what we used to eat and how we had healthy teeth without toothpastes, toothbrushes and dozen other products we use daily.
I swish my mouth with xylitol and it cleans my tongue better than tongue scraper without removing good bacteria. I tried tongue scraping for a couple of months and didn't notice any positive effects.
Perfect timing for this series! I recently saw your video on mouthwash negatively effecting the oral microbiome by killing good bacteria along with the bad. It got me thinking if my tongue scraping was having a similar negative effect by scraping the good away with the bad. But I couldn't find any studies that had been done on that. Hopefully this series will answer my questions.
Which video is that? I want to see it too.
While there's no harm in tongue scraping, but its also not necessary. Just make sure you don't press too hard.
@@veggiemetal7812 I don't recall, but I'll dig around and see if it can find it for you. If I remember correctly I think it was titled incorrectly because I remember being confused as to why it was talking about mouthwash. And he has a video titled "don't use antiseptic mouthwash" but that video is about Nitrates and never mentions mouthwash. I'll let you know if I find it
Hi, regarding the bacteria, cleaning the tongue could have a positive effect here. (One should do it carefully to prevent possible tissue injuries - don't know if micro injuries still can be caused though - which are the issue of the latest video of this channel regarding tongue scraping.)
Some time ago I saw a video (on an other channel I think), which mentioned I guess certain results of this study : 'Frequency of Tongue Cleaning Impacts the Human Tongue Microbiome Composition and Enterosalivary Circulation of Nitrate'
In the study they e.g. say:
'...Therefore, tongue-cleaning does have a significant impact on tongue bacterial community composition, and daily cleaning (either once or twice) results in an increased proportion of H. parainfluenza and other Proteobacteria, which are major nitrate and nitrite reducing species of the oral cavity (Hyde et al., 2014).'
'....From our analysis, regular tongue cleaning results in a tongue microbiome that has a greater ability to reduce nitrite to NO, and conversely, failure to clean the tongue daily results in a microbiome composition that is less favorable to NO production, but instead appears to favor conversion of nitrite to ammonia.'
A part of the authors seem to be connected here with the health industry for microbiome / No, but I don't see a conflict in this case.
And from an other study I found, called Influence of tongue brushing on oral microbiome diversity:
'....Our results showed that physical cleaning using a tongue brush does not increase the α diversity of the tongue coating microbiota (Fig. 2). We also showed that tongue brushing can alter the abundance of certain bacterial species. Interestingly, the list of affected OTUs were different across the different oral cleaning methods. As shown in Fig. 7, tongue brushing increased the abundance of P. melaninogenica, a species with a low risk of aspiration pneumonia, and decreased P. histicola, a species with a high risk of aspiration pneumonia.'
I've been brushing my tongue for 8 years with a modified wide toothbrush. I found out the tongue is the main source of bad breath back then. After buying an already wide brush, I bite on it with my teeth to widen the hairs. It's much more effective than more common brushes, I simply don't understand why more people do this. Brushing a few minutes is more than enough. It's the best way to lessen your bad breath. White plague always seems to appear while sleeping, even though when taking a nap for two hours it's negligible. So sleep needs to be longer than that.
I also buy cloves in a few hundreds of grams every many months. Taking two cloves before sleeping is another ideal way to prevent white plague appearing. I've been doing that for a while as well. And as Greger explained elsewhere, it's extremely high in antioxidants as well. It's the best antibacterial, high antioxidant way for me to counter best breath as well.
Do you chew the cloves? Or just swallow with water?
I’ve been using a copper tongue scraper for years now! It’s amazing. Apparently it’s an old Ayurvedic practice. Such a cheap tool and in my experience makes a big difference.
In that one study they compared it to listerine, it appeared you get the benefits but presumably without the negative effects of these harsh mouthwashes that you alerted us to. Why just ‘brush’ over that part? 😊
Hey Derek, nice to see you here 😄
Talk about timing! I bought a couple of tongue scrapers this morning. Then I look at youtube to see a Dr. Greger videos released just 11 hours prior on the same day. \o/ Thank you!
Practically speaking, I sometimes scrape my tongue to get a taste out of my mouth or to enhance my ability to taste things which the gunk seems to affect. It is helpful when your tongue is burning from spicy food, more helpful than anything else that I've tried for a burning tongue. I feel a perceivable difference and when I haven't scraped my tongue for too long I notice.
One trick to help reduce gagging is to try to force an exaggerated smile when you are sticking out your tongue, which apparently counteracts the gag-reflex to some degree. Otherwise, I can get only about 3/5 or 2/3 back on my tongue without gagging but I still can't scrape all the way back without gagging.
Who said scraping would have an effect on those things? The only reason i do it is for bad breath. And honestly i feel like my mouth is cleaner after scraping in the morning or if you just ate something that will not go away. Its STUCK in your mouth somehow. Scrape your tongue and that will fix that. Its good practice to do everyday. PPL wont suddenly back off when you start talking, or, stop offering you gum and tick tacks. Yea that's a sign. 😂 Be a clean person. Dont offend others by your lack of hygiene.
wow, hard to imagine that someone who has suffered from bad breath could be so insensitive! There are many causes of bad breath including oral diseases, sinus, gut issues etc and none of these have anything at all to do with a person’s hygiene . Ignorant comments like yours are the reason so many people suffer unnecessarily from this condition
Love your videos Doc! Thank you for all your hardwork
Tongue scraping (do it gently!) is also helpful for removing excess toothpaste without having to rinse out mouth after brushing. It can be very beneficial to leave the toothpaste ingredients on teeth (no rinsing) to aid in cavity prevention and desensitization.
My dentist told me the opposite. He said that you need to rinse off the tooth paste after you brush because it can wreck your teeth.
Dr Esselstyn talks a lot about the beneficial bacteria that reside in the crypts and grooves of the tongue. (Producing the critical cardiovascular chemical nitric oxide).
I hope Dr Greger series touches on this.
Also, what is the effect of daily flushing of the nasal cavity? Recent research indicates that the paranasal sinuses are also intimately involved in the production of this chemical.
Obviously everything modern we do that isn't in line with nature and evolution is bad. It will take us a few more decades to figure out what we used to eat and how we had healthy teeth without toothpastes, toothbrushes and dozen other products we use daily.
Thank you for this information ☺️
I was just thinking about how Bacterial get into the mouth.
Everytime I try to scrape my tongue I gag, ugh. On another note, Dr Greger shaving his facial hair was a good life choice lol
I swish my mouth with xylitol and it cleans my tongue better than tongue scraper without removing good bacteria. I tried tongue scraping for a couple of months and didn't notice any positive effects.
Doctor, do you still believe that the CVax is Ok?
Once again, more than one thousand new subscribers in the week before this video was posted! Amazing! The bandwagon keeps rolling!
To chew a bit of ginger is better than listerine.
i tongue scrape while showering. every single time i scrape about 1/4 tsp of beige goo. not sure if it makes any difference, but i "feel" cleaner.
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Why is health expert looks so unhealthy?