Rich Eisen: What Trading Amari Cooper to Bills Says about Deshaun Watson & Browns’ Season Outlook
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Rich Eisen reacts to the Cleveland Browns trading WR Amari Cooper to the Buffalo Bills.
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Baker is in Tampa laughing out loud
All that to get booted out of the first round
@@DelGTAGrndrs you the Eagles? Cause he best them in the playoffs or are you just a hater?
@@DelGTAGrndrs when did that happen other than your imagination because Baker hasn't lost a first round playoff game yeah he's only been twice but he's 2-0 in the first round
@@DelGTAGrndrsWatson is the only QB that gets bounced in the first round.
@DelGTAGrndrs not even a Baker guy but damn you got that wrong lol
I'm more happy for Amari. he needed to get the hell out of Cleveland. Good for him. Go Bills!
You could tell when there were rumors of SF trading Aiyuk for Cooper, he tweeted out "I wouldn't mind at all" no player that is happy with their team says that publicly
But what about Cleveland fans? They need help too!!!
@@justinedse8435 it wouldn't be the only time they jumped on the Bills wagons.
@@Mike__B as a 49ers fan I wouldve had no issue if that happened especially if we got a 3rd back. People forget how good Coop is and he hasn’t played with a QB of Allen’s caliber yet
I'm happy he is out of Cleveland. I've been watching all of these horrible games. Dropped passes and nobody open. That starts with your number one WR. He was sucking bad!
Remember just a few short years ago when it seemed like the Browns were on the cusp of better days? Yea...me too.
they havent been the same since trading Baker while Baker is cooking in Tampa Bay.
That was before they got rid of Baker.
Nope. Don’t recall that at all.
@@Rundatbulbaker had one good half of a season. On a STACKED TEAM. Just stop.
@@newagain9964 he cooked then, and he cooking now. I'ma keep going 😂😂😂
Stupid Browns paid him 95% of his contract as a signing bonus. So Bills only need to pay him $800k this year and have the option to sign him or not next year. This is VERY good business for the Bills both on and off the field. .
Won't hear me complaining. From what I hear the guy is a really good dude, so he will fit in well here. Welcome to Buffalo Amari. Love it. Smart move too. He's on a team with increased SB potential right now, just based on how his performance will affect (lift) everyone else's game, in this receiving room that realllly needs to get their chemistry. Adding Amari now is perfect. We can rebuild chemistry starting next week, and hopefully be running smooth in the weeks ahead. Great move...
Cooper gonna stop dropping balls now and batting them straight up in the air for the defense?
They did that on purpose to up his value.
Why is that stupid. They do that do keep cap space flexible to rollover into ensuing seasons and in case they wanna be aggressive in acquiring any players. Eagles do the same thing
What you call "stupid" is from a business standpoint really the only way to garner anything of value for a player that was in his contract season anyway.
The Browns would have gotten NOTHING at all, had they just kept him on the roster and played out this already lost season with him.
Adding to that they also knew that any serious contenter with an injury/glaring need at WR most likely would not have had the cap space for his 19 million salary.
Like the Bills.
So even if teams were interested they simply wouldn't be able to afford him in terms of salary cap space.
Therefore the Browns made the ONLY REASONABLE decision that converting his base salary into up front paid bonus money would only cost them money.
Money that they would have had to pay him anyway.
But by eating it up right away when the season started they kept the possibility of a potential trade alive and well.
They would have owed him the money anyway so nothing lost there but at least they received a 3rd-rounder for him.
This move was certainly desperate since they sold the house and the kitchen sink in draft capital to make this totally insane Watson trade.
But was it stupid?
I don't think so at all.
The Bills certainly look like the obvious winners of this trade right now but essentially they are renting a player for 11 games and pay a 3rd rounder for it.
If Amari Cooper balls out and helps taking this offense to new heights and the Bills make a deep playoff run, the 3rd rounder looks like a steal.
But if not or if he gets injured then the winner of this trade is very much debatable since Cooper will be a free agent next season
and won't be resigned by the Bills for the minimum salary.
I've been a Browns fan my entire life, but what's happening to this team in the course of a year is soul crushing. Players like Cooper, Chubb, and Garrett, among others deserve the opportunity to go somewhere else where they'll have a chance to win. It's a shame to waste all that talent.
Garrett to the Lions would be great.
Garrett will NEVER be traded. No team can offer enough.
Feel for ya man, Watsons been a cancer to you guys
They deserve it so much from dumping baker and signing that piece of trash deshaun Watson 😂
@@douglasclark6961 Yeah, but even cancers that are correlated to specific activities aren't THAT self-inflicted. Watson is the embodiment of the meme about the guy putting a stick in the bike spokes while riding it.
Meanwhile Baker is in Tampa with Evans, Godwin and Shepard as receivers, 15 TD passes in 6 games
17 total tds, he ran 2 in already too.
Baker Mayfield is PROOF the NFL needs to revamp Rookie NFL Qb contracts. Baker was in his 4th yr of his rookie in 2021 and after a major injury I think the thought was Baker was toast plus Baker had treachery against him named O'Dell Beckham Jr. Now if NFL rookie QB contracts instead of 4 option in 5 were 5 with option in six I don't think an immediate trade for Watson would've been as big an idea. Baker took 6 full seasons to become good Sam Darnold finally did in yr 7 fact is these QB are now so immature out of college they don't develop till about yr 5. 4yrs is too short to know whatcha got. NFL needs to adjust those rookie QB contracts out a year
@@robertsmith6188 Baker was a Dorsey pick and the new GM and H.C. didn't really want him
@@ChuckHuffmaster That's true but it's also true the NFL needs to figure out something as to what to do with these young qbs not developing for 6 seasons now. Kiss are coming out of college so green
@@robertsmith6188 that's the nature of the QB position and usually the best college QB goes to the worst team and if their unlucky enough it's a bad organization too, take Baker as an example he went to the worst team and organization and by his third year in Cleveland he was on his 2nd GM 4th head coach and 4th offensive coordinator it's amazing he survived
Coopers going to be Big Time With Bills!
We can't wait to get him in our uniform!
*BIG TIME*
It says Kevin Stefanski has been told by the owner he has to start Watson, period.
In business schools they talk about sunk costs. The money is gone, and should NOT have any effect on decisions for the future. But that flies in the face of human nature. The owner is probably thinking he'll find some value in prolonging his mistake. He won't.
Stefanski is very unhappy with the situation. Never wanted Watson to begin with. He's likely starting him out of spite for the organization not listening to him.
That would explain his demeanour during pressers
@Mcfee83 Bakers injury in 2021 threw them for a loop u can tell. Had that 2021 injury never happened its very possible the present fiasco didn't either. All the Sportstalkers ESPN the Colin Cowherds all said Bakers toast after 21. Shows you what experts know
Yeah and since he has a good resume he should push his way out. He'll get another chance, everyone knows the Browns are a terribly run organization.
Great move for Coop ....
Cooper went from Watson to Allen throwing him the ball, huge upgrade. Plus, he's a free agent next year. If he goes off with Allen he will get paid, maybe with Buffalo.
Except Josh throws a lot of picks
@@ChuckHuffmastercasual, he has zero this year and most of his picks from last year were arm punts
@@BrockLeeCSGO the season is still early and turnover Josh will be back to turning the ball over
@@ChuckHuffmasterI mean who really cares when he scores 40+ touchdowns a season.
@ChuckHuffmaster Allen has no interceptions this year. He's never thrown a pick six in his career !
Amari Cooper finally has a shot to win a championship. I’ve been watching this guy since he was the sideline catch specialist with the cowboys. He’s a very special and highly underrated deep threat and sideline specialist
The Raiders never should have let him go.
@Nsellz so true. And JA17 loves his sideline throws. Hopefully Keon can learn from Amari. Keon has shown some promise with contested sideline catches, but being able to shadow a dude like Cooper will hopefully help develop his route running and separation skills. I am also excited about Amari either feasting, or just drawing so much attention from DBs that there will always be someone open, or a soft box for a run.
Obviously the women in Cleveland rub Watson the wrong way.
u win sports internet today!
Very well done! I kinda wish I had come up with that one lol
This comment is about to blow up with likes lol
I see what you did there…
That funny
It's crazy that they only have to pay him less than $1 million this year, just gave up a 3rd rounder, AND he's younger than Adams.
Davante has had a better ceiling, but given the Bills lack of weapons & lack of cap space, they made out way better than the Jets.
Brother we swapped #1 wr diggs for amari who is younger and got a 2nd for our 3rd 😂 dayyum
@@solace4114 Bills trade return of Diggs wasn't good, we also ate up the cost for Texans. We still have to see if Amari plays well, so far only Rasul's trade brought value immediate for Bills, others were just meh. But this year, definitely, our receiving corp is so mediocre, except for Khalil who is a slot receiver (!).
It seems like a good deal for the Bills, but Amari is only a rental for them unless they can sign him to an extension. And that won't be easy. The Browns were right to be cautious about signing Amari, a good, but aging WR, to a long term deal for top tier WR money that he was holding out to get. This was Amari's last year with the Browns in any event. They did well to get a 3rd round pick for him.
@@greggordillo2502 Correct, but next year salary cap for Bills would be much better as they ate up Diggs's pay this year. At least they could afford to pay him like Diggs, if he proves himself to be worthy. And honestly, wasting another year of prime Allen by not giving him weapons is a crime for this club. We all know it's not going to be the Bills defense alone that takes this team far enough. Allen has allowed Bills and BB/SM to punch above their weights for several years by now.
@@davidhatran3160 Allen should be able to bring out the best in Amari. I like Amari. He deserved to get out of the Browns dumpster fire. I hope it works out for him and the Bills.
Bills really said, "Oh that's cute, Jets. Watch this."
Isn't Adams a much better wr?
Yeah this guy must watch European football. Adams is much better
It's not about who's a better wr, it's about leveling up the same day they did
Cooper is younger than Adams and costs $800K for this year. Adams is owed over $35M this year. I think the Bills picked the better option.
@@frankcalenzo4741 this too!
COOPER IS NOT A head case like Diggs...
Watson killing the Browns for the years to come...doesn't matter if Chubb comes
@charleshoward3623 Stefon Diggs is balling in Houston and Amari Cooper is a 100 percent a Diva he cried the whole season about not getting paid and he dropped everything Watson threw to him
@@malikwilson7387 bro what are you yapping about
Well that's what happens when you sign a player who publicly says he doesn't want to play for your team. Watson literally didn't have to play a game for the Cleveland Browns
@@malikwilson7387facts
@@malikwilson7387Cooper set a browns single game wr record with Joe Flacco off the couch and then had to catch passes from the highly inconsistent watson. It’s called getting in a rhythm and watson has none.
Browns getting everything they deserve for giving Watson that contract
A bit unfair to Browns fans. Many of us did not want any part of this.
Shut up you all ran baker out of town
@@calmingrelaxationsaudio1232when he hadn’t played well. He left, hit bottom, and rebounded. Good for him but stop trying to rewrite history. He wasn’t treated unfairly, he wasn’t playing well.
@@digitalinclusion It definitely is unfair, and the sad thing is that the only way to get change is to stop going to games, stop tuning in on TV, stop buying merch. The moment the $$$ stops flowing in is when ownership takes action. Won't happen overnight, but will get the change you want either from current ownership or the next one
Couldn't agree more. As a Browns fan, I was all about that Watson trade. Us fans need to own our sh*t. We earned this season.
Nobody runs routes like Coop, watch him ball out in Buffalo w/ Allen
Please he’s dropped the most passes this year of any WR. Like always. He on the decline
@@jayslaya9684Being in that dump who wouldn't? Please come back in a couple weeks!!
@@Jeff-jw1rl cooper has been a drop machine since he was with the raiders
As a Browns fan,I’m just sick to my stomach. I know a dozen people who got disgusted with how the team is run and switched teams. I’ve never considered it,nor thought I ever would. Until now 😢
Switch bro
Embrace the suck . A few years later its all forgotten. ❤
Come be a Bills fan bro
suffering
Easy for me to say but maybe pick an NFC team and make them your team for the next 4 or so years. I've never felt so sorry for another team's fanbase.
Amari Cooper traded. Watson’s days on the field are numbered going forward.
Watson’s got his money. He doesn’t care.
Watson is the Ben Simmons of Greater Cleveland area football
Nah they're gonna make him start for the duration of that contract
Totally agree. He got his money so he has no incentive to try hard. The Browns are a joke and that city deserved better
Watson's contract is much worse than what Rich Eisen says. Its 28 million against the cap this year, 73 million against the cap the next two years after that, and then 27 million the year after that.
💀💀💀💀💀
The dead cap hits for Deshaun Watson's contract may be even worse - $200 million in 2024, $172 million in 2025, $100 million in 2026.
there is nothing wrong with watsons CONTRACT............he got 46 mill a year for 5 years, what ppl are talking about is how our GM pushed his cap hits back each year to make room for other players to fit under the cap, thats the only reason its so high, the plan was to extend watson in year 4 or 5 and aleaveate some of that high cap hit and this 3 year spand was to be our window to go for it..
the only problem was
1 the 6 game suspension that turned into 11 games cuz the nfl wanted to do good PR and our back up could not keep us above 500 the first year, so it was a wash
2. second year our star RB nick chubb gets hurt in game 2 for the season, then watson gets hurt 1 game later out fro 5 weeks, then 2 of 5 linement get hurt, then watson comes bck win 3 games and gets hurt for the season......... joe fllaco throws 2 back to back pick sixes in the playoffs(dont matter the season was done) and the season was over. so what we have year 3!
3. year 3 watson is comming off year ending surgery, chubb still wont be back till week 7 , THREE OUT OF FIVE LINEMEN ARE HURT at the start of the season, and 2 more by week 3
back up RB goes down in week4 star Tight end david njoku gets hurt week 3 out for 3 weeks......new OC and new system, new systems clashes with old player caller(the HC kevin stefanski) and the result is a car wreak of WR and qb not knowhing what choice routes to run so they are out of sync, to top it all off
our head coach decided that "we dont need to play any starters in the pre season" only12 out of 44 starters played at any point in the pre season.................
and this is what you get, a team thats not on the same page, back left tackles playing center because both starting and bakc up centers are out, shuffing all olinemen low snaps and false starts and holding galore....................
people like to say its watson becuae they are lazy........is he playing bad? sure............but idk if its cuz he is bad, or the system is bad, or the wr are bad(most drops in the nfl browns wr) the line is bad, or the rb are bad............or all of the above.
the worst part about this year is as of week 6, we have ZERO claratiy on who is bad or what....everything is so bad/ too many players hurt to make any kind of determination, which is why keivn is not switchign qbs.
but ever one is just lazy fucks and say DRRRR WATSON BAD DEEEEEEEEEEER
ppl like to think they are smart, but then they just follow the narrative they are given cuz its easy for them, as a browns fan who watch the cap, players and coaches( the browns have had 3 playoff games since the HC has been here 4 years, kevin has called the plays in 2 and we are 0 and 2, the ONE playoff game we did win was when kevin was out of the game with covid and at his house, and the oc AVP was calling plays the pitts game, so i dnt even know if my HC is a good play caller or not) i understand its not just one player
or one thing.
i just hope we get a healty team for more than fucking 6 games so we can see ANYTHING
@@aaronclay4665 A 38 year old Flacco averaged almost double his yards and double his touchdowns per game while playing with an even more injury depleted team while having less than a week to learn the offense. I'd say Watson deserves a lot of the blame. Though the entire offense as a whole is pretty bad.
@@aaronclay4665 bro wrote a novel defending a diddler 😂😂😂😂😂
I'M A 60 YEAR BROWNS FAN WHO WATCHED HIS LIFELONG BROWNS FAN FATHER DIE IN THE HOSPITAL OF HEART FAILURE 30 MINUTES AFTER A WATCHING BROWNS LOSS TOGETHER ON NOVEMBER 30TH 2008! I'M GLAD HE CAN'T SEE THIS NOW! I'LL LIKELY JOIN HIM IN A FEW MORE YEARS WITHOUT EVER HAVING SEEN A BROWNS CHAMPIONSHIP AGAIN! HE TOOK ME TO THE 1964 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT AGE 5 AND IT SEEMED AS THOUGH WE'D CONTINUE HAVING SOME LEVEL OF SUCCESS BUT ALAS iT'S NOT COME TO PASS. LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU DAD💔🙏
P.S. Mr Haslem Please sell this team to a kind person that wants success and joy for the greatest fans of football in the world.
It seems your interest only lie in cheating truck drivers and trucking companiea and making more millions. How much is enough money to make and how many hearts must you break to make you happy.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy! (Watson)
Karma
Watson is so bad they figure we can put anyone at wide out and he will still over throw them by 10 yards 😂
Bills was like Hold up a minute playa we have a counter attack lol
I swear, if the Lions aren't on the phone with Browns right now trying to get Myles Garrett, I'll be so disappointed...
Yeah, Browns are tanking to get a new QB. Makes sense.
if you listen closely, you can faintly hear Baker Mayfield laughing his guts out
He has nothing to laugh about until he wins something relevant.... And if you've watched him play you know he is great against average teams and trash against good ones. Signing Watson may be a bad move getting rid of Baker was a great move he was despised from the moment he was drafted.
@@trevorD1156two things can be right at the same time, baker is slightly above average, but signing up for the Watson penitentiary a move of ultimate desperation and shameful, that was not needed knowing his situation and what it would do the team and progress/respect the team had built with Baker under center --- maybe not browns fans, but the organization and owner should be ridiculed for not moving on, damn the financial
Sometimes bad things happens to bad people…happy that bringing in Watson as your poster-boy backfires like this 😊
The owners made it really easy to root against them and laugh at their misfortune.
@NosyNorsemqn kevin stenensfaski bad play calling is what happened to Watson
@@malikwilson7387right, the guy that had PJ Walker beating San Fran last year is the problem. Delusional.
Chubbs coming back won't help the Browns, not while the O-line is playing as bad as Watson
Watson is making the O-Line look bad; with a QB that does not know what they are doing, any OL will struggle.
Johnny Manziel: I played better than him, and I was stoned the whole time
As a Steelers fan, seeing the browns be the browns after everyone thought they'd contend for the division is so beautiful I could cry, lol. People always seem to forget that ultimately the browns will always be the browns. When will you guys learn? Lol
Go sign Russel Wilson. Enjoy that mess
Bills one up the jets lol and they still hold on to their first and 2 second round picks next year. Same production as adams.
Jets didn’t give up a 1 or 2 either what you mean? It’s only a 2 if he makes pro bowl or all pro team or they go to AFC championship game and he on the active roster (not injured) would definitely be worth a 2 if they go that far and he’s missed 2-3 games with injury so if he makes all pro team then that means he absolutely balls out for the jets. Also depends how you look at it, Cooper only a 10 game rental, Adams under contract for 3 years. Also Cooper has 10 dropped passes this year so gonna have to clean that up
@@kylem6370get real dude he’s younger and same production. You will lose that second round pick if adams has good production lol. Also the bills have more draft capital than the jets in 2025. They’re better when it comes to the future than the jets.
Bills have two second round d pucks next year. They have the vikings
@@havanascp9602 yes that’s what I said. They have a ton of draft capital. Two fourth rounders as well.
@kylem6370 yeah buddy adams won't be a jet for 3 years sorry
happy for my team grabbing Coop. sad for Browns fans. they dont deserve the mess their team is in. Go Bills!!
No, we kinda do deserve it.
@@JohnnyUtahFBIwell at least he’s going to your brothers across the lake. Something? Maybe?
“Hold my beer”. That’s what Bills GM Brandon Beane said after learning that the Jets acquired Devante Adams.
Just like to say thanks for getting Watson and imploding your team for the next half decade. Cheers today from a Bills fan.
It sucks . As a Browns fan , it sucks to watch this happen
Go Bills … always cheer for them once the playoffs come lol
Rich, I love your Ryme of the Ancient Mariner albatross reference and I love seeing Amari Cooper come to Buffalo.
"We are not serious people" Lol
As a Bills fan, this is the best news possible! Man do we desperately need a WR. Welcome, Amari!
Damn, we beat the Jets twice in less than 24 hours! 😂😂😂
I heard Cooper dropped the pen when signing the deal
As a life long browns fan, I wish and hope that the team somehow gets a new and better ownership cause all success or failure begins at the tops 😢
As a Texan fan I sometimes feel like the used car dealer counting his money and watching Haslam drive off in a Ferrari I just sold him with a trail of oil following him out of the dealership
Good for Cooper!!!!
COOOOOP….Go Bills!
Great trade for Cooper and the Bills! Remember some great games he had with Flacco throwing to him - Josh Allen should light it up!
Amari with Shakir and a supplement of dalton and Keon is much better than what we had over the past 2-3 years! Let's gooo Buffalo!!
Kincaide can't gain any yards after the catch. He's an 8-to-12 yard receiver. Decent, but not in any way a 1st round TE. And Coleman's a bust.
@@atlasking611073 catches as a rookie is certainly first round talent. Saying Coleman is a bust after 6 games is nonsense, especially since he is making catches and scoring TD'S
Good for him
Wow I was hoping for this without having to sell the house to get him.
Great move by the bills
As a Steelers fan who enjoys watching the Browns just go full browns all the time, it's been soooooo long that they've been like this I almost, almost, feel.......a little bit of pity? But not really. Enjoy those cap hits from Watson these next couple years hahahaha woooo
the entire Browns team sucks.....not just DW4....TEAR IT DOWN....FIRE AB, DEPO AND STEFANSKI
Good for the Bills
Wild that the two teams that played each other less than 24 hours ago are now adding a wide receiver to their teams. Happy for Amari. I tend to think that Browns having struggles with Watson is karma based on Mayfields exit from Cleveland. Some Browns fans were way too hateful to the guy. Not all, but some. Now they are stuck with Deshaun while Mayfield is playing better in Tampa Bay.
Happy for Amari. Consummate pro. If Chubb performs well, I expect he'll get a chance before Nov 5th to win elsewhere as well. Garrett, Ward, Teller? Will be interesting to see who else gets out of this flaming dumpster. Will cost Stefanski his job. Dark days ahead... but it's Cleveland, we'll live.
No agent is letting there player get drafted to Cleveland dumpster fire
They holding on to Garret and Ward. After that it’s over for awhile.
I’m a Seattle guy, but man I feel for Cleveland…..
Bills got so much better. Super Bowl hopes are alive again
No, their defense is poor, although Rapp had a good game last night.
Their poor defense will kill any chances of a super bowl hope
@@ji8044 It's built around D-line pressure, LBs filling running lanes, and the DBs going for turnovers and hits, not coverage. Buffalo needs to get Milano and Oliver back on the field, and they need the offense to put up more points. This doesn't help with the former, but if the O puts up more points it makes the other team have to catch up and makes it easier for the Bills D to do what they were designed to do. The Bills designed their team around getting a lead and then punishing the opposing team for the rest of the game - they're not really designed to duke it out in close, get the last possession and play for the 3 points to win games (especially considering their kicker is a head case this year). This trade for Cooper makes sense given how the team is built this season, because when the Bills don't put up points and can't lean on their running game, they've looked very beatable this year by even teams like the Jets.
@@ji8044wtf games are you watching. Defense has been great
@cluberti Ya man, we just need to get healthy. If we're healthy come playoff time, we'll be ok
You're doing a fantastic job! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). Could you explain how to move them to Binance?
This is nothing They were trying to trade Cooper in the off season.
Good for Coop. He’s always one of ours. Roll Tide
I'm a die hard Cleveland fan. I'm happy for Cooper to get out of this dumpster fire.
Not a bad show you got Rich. Very informative. We could use a lil more excitement Im a big fan of The Herd podcast! Either way great ep. Take care fellas
One thing for sure .. Amari happy af !
Amari is a quiet star. Thats what the bills organization wants. Not cry babies like D.Adams/Diggs
Cooper gotta be happy
Cleveland deserves this.
When Jerry Jones says they are going all in with what they had during the off season tells you a lot. This means the Cowboys better start playing well yesterday or all of us who are not Cowboys fans will be trolling the Cowboys.
Amari Cooper leads the league in drops
Will lead in catches now
This is utterly Beautiful! 😁😁😁😁😁
They shouldn't have let Baker go, everyone can have a bad year or so I love to see how great he is doing in Tampa! Very happy for Amari as well, he will do well in Buffalo!
They are stuck with his salary. Doesn't mean they have to play him. Get a QB in the draft next year and have the world's most expensive bench warmer be the back-up as a sort of morality tale. And...
(1) no more guaranteed contracts
(2) have a morals clause in every contract
I'm so happy for Cooper he's probably thinking "sweet now I can play with a really good QB then a crap one"
Now I'm hoping Detroit adds a really good DE to try to replace Hutchinson
Garrett for two 1's. All yours
GOOD PICK 👍 UP FOR THE BILLS
Rich, you don't rag on DW, he's just bad in Cleveland, you're hopefully speaking wisdom to someone who needs to hear it. Are you always right? Only the future can tell 💚
As a Browns fan, it's brutal to watch, thank God for redzone. I'm rooting for Baker in Tampa and Coop in Buffalo
Cooper leads the league in drops.
No one is trying to trash Watson unnecessarily. But he has brought all of this on himself for both his off the field issues and his on the field play. And that is multiplied by that awful trade and contract.
Imagine a more depressing place than the Browns locker room...
As a Cowboys fan, glad to see they did not bring Cooper back. He never seemed to have much gas in the tank, and that was two years ago.
I still need someone to explain to me how Kevin Stefanski has two Coach of the Year awards. Mike Tomlin has never been considered for one in 18 years.
Total BS. Tomlin is 1st ballot hof
Wow, didnt know that. Tomlin definitely one of the best in the league
Yeah he won coach of the year over demeco Ryan's last year. The team they lost to in the playoffs. Let that sink in.
@@1rdot2 Makes no sense at all
Love stefanski, like the browns fans, but the Browns ownership deserves this. Football players are not role models, but you need to have a line.
I think Rich is fair towards CLE. He's a Jets fan and can relate to some degree, to our suffering. He gets it.
Amari fixin to go viral w/ Allen throwing to him
I wish the Chiefs got him. Josh is playing great football. We’ll see what they can do. Definitely interesting.
Why would anyone help kc
You SHOULD take every opportunity to denegrate Watson
The browns just admitted they ruined their window of opportunity. Obj and Deshaun Cosby trades absolutely screwed the franchise for years to come. You had a great running game, an above average qb, a solid defense, and you found a way to ruin it.
I feel for Browns fans. Really want to them be successful. 1 step forward 4 steps back.
Stefanski is done, too. IDK about Cooper. He's been traded around not really helped the offenses. He flashed but not enough. Chiefs weren't offering much LOL
Rich,, With The Bills getting Amari Cooper,, It Took That Super Mile Wide Smile Right Off Of Your Face... Wonder Why?? Jets Playing With Pawns, Bills Just Checkmated The Jets...
When are the bills going to "checkmate" the Chiefs is the question. That's the team they can't seem to beat when it matters, though in all fairness the Bills couldn't beat the Bengals when it mattered either.
@@Willtellthetruth excuse me? this conversation is about when are the jets going to make the playoffs? 60 years?? 120 years?? Aaron Rogers has not won a game that mattered in over 15 years..
@@silvergold2140 The Jets are irrelevant. Can the Bills beat the Chiefs ever?
@@R17759 terrible take. both halfs
Berry is a shyt gm. You are confusing him with ken dorsey
What messed up Watson was bill Obrien trading dhop from the texans for peanuts. That triggered the true downfall of watson. I saw it happened bc bill Obrien said we can get any player to fill his shoes. Every texans fans was sad about that trade.
Allen to Cooper!
People forget how good Cooper is, and his best playing days might be ahead of him with Allen
nah...he is in steady decline.....definitely lost a step
Trading Amari is the right move. He was going to be a free agent next year. There's 0.0% chance he voluntarily comes back. Even WITH him, Watson is garbage. This at least gets you SOMETHING back. And a 3rd rounder is substantial value...especially in this coming draft. Not trading Cooper would be doubling down on the bad decision that was Deshaun Watson.
The best thing to do would be for Haslam et al to admit they f---ed up with Watson, admit that the guy isn't putting the effort in and it shows on the field. Admit that Watson is just here to do the bare minimum and cash checks. Then, having publicly humiliated him, DO NOT cut him. Bury him on the depth chart and leave him inactive every week until his contract is up. The contract is fully guaranteed. You're going to pay the money either way. Don't let him go out and get more money.
But EITHER WAY, trading Cooper was the right move. Don't compound a mistake with more mistakes.
The Browns season was over even before it started! I want to see them win but it is better to do a rebuild then do as slow torture. Watson contract is going to be dead cap for a long time anyway.
Amari this year was also part of the problem. If you watched last weeks game with Philadelphia Amari caught a tremendous pass down near the 5 yard line but Amari finally catching one this year was penalized for grabbing the Facemask of a Eagles defender. That could have turned into a touchdown. That didn’t help his team. Watson is getting better. I guess getting back to playing for after his last operation needed more time for him to get adjusted to. He was much better in the 2nd half and the front line could be playing much better.
There are 3 fan bases I’ve always felt sympathy for: the Browns, the Commanders and the Jets. The Commanders (my team) finally seem to be on an upswing. I feel terrible for Browns and Jets fans.
Cowboys gave up a 1 for cooper and traded him for a 5th and then Cleveland traded him for a 3rd. Tells you something right😊
Exactly, we could of at least waited til chubb and the running game came back. Also. Why not get a WR back?
We are tanking for Sanders!!! Or Ewers
This is just the beginning. It’s going to get worse before it gets better.
The Browns can’t even start over until they get rid of Watson. Trade all the tradable high priced talent for whatever draft capital you can get. Use all that freed up cap space to accelerate Watson’s payout / departure.
Bills don’t miss Diggs he was trouble
Cleveland Browns: rebuilding since 1999