project sekai is ok I guess 🤷♀️
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Let's talk about prosekai, or to global people, Hastune Miku: Colorful Stage (LOL).
After a ton of comments asking me to try x and y and z idol game, I am finally going to talk about one. This was meant to be a quick first impression video but it ended up so long I took a week and a half extra to edit the video omg
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:43 The Gameplay
06:18 The Experience
09:11 The Songs
10:01 The Story
12:56 Everything Else
16:24 Conclusion
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Just to add onto the video:
- The gacha and the game is very separate
I mentioned this already but I wanted to reiterate it! You can really not care about the gacha or the characters or tributes and just play. Though if you really want to get score without the gacha or score characters, play in multiplayer rooms
- The timing windows are actually quite strict at 2 frames (33ish ms)
It's generally the game people recommend to practice accuracy, especially coupled with the release timing windows and charting style.
- The game isn't THAT complicated
But I was just talking about it in terms of a first impression (especially since their tutorial is pretty bad...). I understood how the attributes and upgrade items worked after awhile but it'll take some poking around. And generally if you don't care about gacha you really don't need to bother until you start wanting to pull characters for specific events.
Tbf no matter how "separate" or "non-intrusive" the gacha is for a game. I would never play it. Even if its free. Yes, ive not played Genshin or Tower of Fantasy. Sue me. Playing it encourages future games to go along with the gacha model of monetization without any compromise. Im glad that I have this mindset though so that I can appreciate actually better games that dont have the "monetize-first" mindset when making the game.
@tokaku actually jp ver has a ranked match system that unlocks after a certain number of Full Combo in Expert and Master. Its a 1v1 Match the cards doesnt matter because its a performance match, more Perfects = win. Its pretty fun even if japanese players are way to scary! You should try it
another way to get score without gacha is to play ranked match! That's a mode where gacha card stuff is disabled and you play 1v1 with others! It's currently only in the Japanese version though, it won't be added to the Taiwan, Korea or Global versions until March 2023
Something else to add. The song charts are "different". There are songs that might not get into global like bandori such as senbonzakura for their "wartime tune" in-song, etc. So if you want to play like every Vocaloid song or japanese pop song there is on the game, hit the japanese version instead
Also, what makes proseka better to play than other rhythm game is that the fact that the game rides with the song, not only beating properly with the song, just like chunithm but on mobile i guess?
Finally, is there no machine gun doll in global ver? That is basically the hardest song right now imo
in games like this gacha matters and doesn't matter at the same time.
it matters, because higher rarity character grants higher scores.
it doesn't matter, when you're just here for the music/beatmaps. You can still clear lv 34+ Master levels with low rarity character as long as you got the skill.
playing Easy difficulty beatmaps with high rarity characters will grant higher scores than when you FC Master difficulty beatmaps with low rarity characters
The reason why the English Version is called Hatsune Miku Colorful stage is to avoid any legal troubles with Sekai Project, a US company that localizes Japanese Visual Novels. I get why its called that, but many fans, including me call it Ensekai.
oh huh, that's really interesting, I didn't know
Oh I used to wonder why project sekai was changed for the en server
@@pastelofmuffin And now you know
Basically, Biohazard problem
@@TNinja0 Exactly
for the story aspect, the main story doesn't really do the characters too much justice. they really shine in the event stories; delving into the characters' histories, secrets, and trauma
the best part about project sekai's stories imo is that they're relatable
Agreed. I mean, I already loved 25ji the moment I saw Kanade, but when I read the main story, it only added more to my interest.
Mizuki also came into my view.
Then, I read the event stories…
Spoiler? I guess? I don’t know? Not really?
Well now I’m willing to kill anyone who hurts Mafuyu, or tells Ena her art is bad, and I’m dying for Mizuki to tell their secret to the others, and Kanade, please eat healthily
I think the pjsekai characters are some of the best rhythm gacha game franchise characters I've come across. They feel real and the writers are really in touch with their problems and struggles, they are flawed and (ALMOST.) none of them feel like a caricature, but rather like ACTUAL teenagers that have a multifaceted personality. Also I agree that they REALLY nail the event stories; I always look out especially for Akito x Tsukasa x Mizuki interactions bc seeing a guy that cares a lot about keeping the "cool guy" image slowly opening up to Mizuki and Tsukasa, who are considered the "weirdos" of the school is just too wholesome and fun
RIGHT LIKE IT ADDED A LOT TO WHY I LOVE EMU! shes like upbeat and happy, and i relate to her sm. but the fact shes happy even ehile having basicalky a family that isnt the best, is amazing
FRRRR😭 i love akito 😈
The main story is setting the scene for the world
A little trivia about "popular j-pop" song: they don't just appear because it's popular; they are in project sekai for a reason!
-Eve was a vocaloid producer before, and most of his songs have miku version (he recently published his first Eve x Vocaloid album!)
-Ado is the vocal, but the main lyrics/composing/arrangements is from vocaloid producer e.g. usseewa is produced by syudou, and odo has DECO*27 as lyricist / Giga and Teddyloid as composer!
I think it's worth mentioning, since some of us might be confused why are there jpop songs in so-called "vocaloid game", they won't be there if it wasn't vocaloid-related!
Ado was an utaite (singer who covers vocaloid songs) as well! The only song I think is truly unrelated to the vocaloid community (in the worldwide version, at least) is Yoasobi's Racing into the Night (Yoru ni Kakeru)!
@@antropofagica YOASOBI is a duo containing a singer/songwriter named Ikura, and VOCALOID producer Ayase, who has a solo song by him (Ghost City Tokyo) and a commissioned song for an event (Cinema) already in the game
@@antropofagica Back in 2019, in Ayase first album, one of the songs included in the album is Racing into the night, Miku version!
imo I think this is the same case as Ado, which has both Human ver and Vocaloid ver for one song, so it still being counted as vocaloid-related song!
And for the ado songs, the vocaloid producers have posted a vocaloid version as well!
actually, i think usseewa is (one of the only two songs) that didn't have a vocaloid version prior to its release in proseka!!
syudou made a virtual singer version for the game which was uploaded to the project sekai channel, and that's currently the only official vocaloid version
I think what makes project sekai more fun is what it does outside of the rhythm game or gacha aspect of it. The dev (well... The JP devs) is pretty in touch with the community, they constantly comission known Vocaloid artist to draw for project sekai, they comission vocaloid producers (some of which haven't make new songs for quite some while even years) to make the event songs, they held contest that promote new producers in the community and if you win the contest then you'll get your song in the game, they start doing QnAs in their livestreams, they got the in-game units to interact with fans (via Wondashow livestream, More More Jump 3D Idol Liveroom, and Nightcord at 25 Radio), and they also held actual in-game concerts with 3D models and all for the characters. The gacha part is still icky and the fanbase can be... Questionable, a lot of the times but i find it worth it~
THE STORY IS AMAZING TOO.
I was seriously and still am hooked on the story between Mafuyu, and Kanade. I love 25ji’s story.
I would kill for them.
Yeah! I was pretty baffled too when I saw Ina's artwork being uploaded in the game!!
@@nataliegorianski8424Ina? You mean the priestess? When was it? What event?
@@rosalcharisse9426 yeah, the tako priestess. Last time I checked in the global server, it was in the avatar design something in the profile.
I was a BETA tester on the Japanese servers. As a vocaloid fan, Project Sekai is the ideal non-arcade rhythm game for me. I can play it on the go, the game financially supports the community that I love, and the stories revolving around the vocaloid characters I've grown up with are genuinely compelling.
Also, the game itself is just genuinely good. As a rhythm game, it feels mechanically great.
A few things to add just on top of my head:
1: The range of difficulty is INSANE. Even people with no rhythm game experience think easy charts are too easy. And hardest master charts are testing the limits of human capabilities. So there‘s always room for improvement
2. Not only can the note size change, the notes can form patterns, and even spell out words, which makes the chart even more fun
3. The JP server has SO MANY MORE FEATURES. I played a bit on the Chinese server just to understand how the game works, then I moved to JP cuz there are more songs, more live options and generally more variety in the gameplay. Once you played the game for a while, just get JP version and try it out
"all songs are designed to be full comboed with two fingers"
Though the difficulty of the game still isn’t even close to rhythm games like Arcaea, and sound vortex
@@jen8427 yes its nowhere near beyond charts and phigros is a lot harder
@@trigunn3414 actually is you don’t count phigros April fools charts project Sekai is a bit harder
En server is a year behind, which some people might care about but personally i dont mind.
the one thing I'm very impressed about Project Sekai is that it has a song contest (in the Japanese version), and there are already success stories where composers got significantly more well-known thanks to their wins (irucaice comes to mine)
yea, even though I don't play PSekai im kinda surprised when one of my fav composer (YurryCanon, kinda underrated) had an entry to the contest. idk about the results though
It'll be a while until it comes out on the Global version, but the JP version does have a new 1v1 ranked mode that has scoring based purely on note accuracy so the gacha cards are just cosmetic.
You made me hesitate to install the Japanese version just for that, holy fuck that sounds so cool! Can't wait.
Do you have an idea of when that could come out on the global server?
@@MilkyShu It came out March of this year, so if global keeps their 1 year behind pace then it should be out next year March
@@o-kiku3939 Yeahhh idk if you should. The pvp on jp server is hell : a few greats and you're out(I'm in mid ladder and my opponents often AP)
@@AppleFlingers oh it takes so long😭 but thanks for the answer!!
The stories in project sekai are actually quite well written, especially with Nightcord. One of the few gacha games that makes me excited for an event not for the gacha, but the story.
i love n25 so much ehrgeheheheh :D
7:35 the Japanese version actually increased the rating from 34 to 36 for the most difficult charts. For disappearance it's 35 now
37....
@@oriana1125 And they even throw the "you can play all songs with only two fingers" principle away for that one song lol
38...
@@ndyKong I heard it's only valid for 32 or below now? something like that
which I think is a good choice, but still the newest song (the pop one) is quite overcharted :/
@@garethma7734 From what I know (I am wayyyy underskilled to try all of them) only "What's up pop" and "Yaminabe" Master officially violate this rule. Others (though maybe very difficult) was still theoretically solvable (and has been solved) by two fingers only.
If you want the source of people using only two fingers to full combo songs under (included) level 36, just add "親指" (which means "thumb" in Japanese) after the song name and search it in youtube.
Hi, so I feel the same way. When I started Project SEKAI, I thought that the stories weren't fun and good and the game felt hard and gacha was rigged to me. But as I kept reading and reading and playing, the stories and gameplay became amazing. It is a little boring and stressful at first, but don't give up on it, it's an outstanding rhythm game with amazing stories and characters.
-a chronic Project SEKAI addict
(sorry for my bad english, it's not my native language)
@@chuumisser1 You don’t even have to be sorry 😂
You’re English was perfect.
Yep ! at the beginning, I didn't think I would like it but, seeing that the others were not idols (apart from MMJ), I appreciated the game better, and now I'm a huge fan of Vivid Bad Squad !
@@masato-fukaseThat’s exactly how i felt. I played the game only for the rhythm aspect and i thought i wouldn’t be interested in any of the groups/characters. But now i’m both super invested in the story plus the rhythm game aspect. It’s honestly surprising how detailed and well written the characters and stories are.
Tokaku: I'm sorry I really don't like Tsukasa
The entire fandom: *Unacceptable* 🧍🔪
tsukasa sucks
lmao yes but I think it’s how I felt at first ngl. Reading his dazzling stage event really helped me like him WAY more
@@maya_feyy lol yes me too i really started to love him when i finished the main storyline i thought he was annoying at first-
Www i usually don't like that bright shining self center personality... but more i know him from event and why he want to be a star for saki smile is just JD_SIHDKSUS I FEEL FOR HIM 😂
@@Qilinkasa Your comment made me die in game…
when i started playing pjsk i never expected to like the characters and at the start, i didnt, the story starts off really boring but after i read some of the later stories here n there i started to relate to the characters, esp the ones from nightcord
fast forward to now and ive sold my soul to the gacha gods
haha same lol
imo the main stories are pretty vanilla but the events are where they shine
I sold my soul to 25ji when I played Ena’s event. Idk their group just struck a chord with me, a “night-chord”, if you will. I went back to read everything else, and now I’m absolutely hooked on Project Sekai and am like, a 25ji megafan
same at first i hated everyone except for emu and now i like everyone
Mafuyus story really, REALLY hit me istg protect her from mamafuyu
proseka is like the only mobile game whose story actually made me cry. The “main story” is really just a small introduction to each of the units, and the event stories goes much more in depth into the characters and their backstories, as well as just pushing the story forward. Each event story is pretty much the next “chapter” of that event’s unit of focus, so I highly recommend reading a specific unit’s event stories in release order if there’s a unit that stands out to you (kanade is my beloved and I feel a shit ton of emotions in 25’s stories lol)
i’ve been playing prsk seriously since january 2022, and it took me 7 whole months to get interested in the story, but now i am OBSESSED and will watch every single live show no matter how late it is in my time zone. its very very friendly to just vocaloid fans, even if you arent interested in the idols. the story mode somehow made rui, who i hated because of his dumb hair, into my favourite character :-/ the power of prsk main story i guess
I get you so much lol. I used to hate akito because of how weird his smile looked like and now I attack people how throw a bit of shade on him. What prsk stories does to you man
i got into the stories at march 2022 but started in november 2021 on english servers (im an aussie)
As a Project Sekai addict, I used to hate Wondershow before I read their stories because they reminded me way too much of the Hello Happy World vibes even though I had never played Bandori. Fast forward to after I read their main story and Wonder Halloween and now they’re my favorite group tied with N25.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME
i didn't like rui bc when he smiled he looked like the joker 😭😭 and also tsukasa was rly loud but once i read the stories they're two of my favs now
ig that's just what wondershow stories do to a person
11:32 spoilers, so basically saki (his sister in leo need) became very ill and needed to be bedreidden, hence he basically built his dreams around her lol
Is that a spoiler? I was able to figure that out just from watching the intro story
@@aierie-dragonslayer i assume most ppl who watch tokakus channel dont play puroseka
@@aierie-dragonslayerits a spoiler if you didn’t pick that group first i guess.
hey there, i mainly play jp and i just to add more on this video:
- this game has 2 other playable versions (taiwanese and korean) and 1 more planned (southeast asia, although unconfirmed when will it come.) southeast asia is excluded from the global version mainly because of the huge timezone gap. they plan to release a different version by the taiwanese publisher.
- at the moment, en has 3 songs that are not in jp. so, i would say the developers also cater to english vocaloid songs.
- the qol updates in the en version is also delayed for a year. en doesn’t have ap indicators as the time i wrote this comment.
- i noticed this minor detail, but jp doesn’t actually *have* event-exclusive missions.
that is all from me.
damn i guess i'll wait for the SEA server release then. I already have Bandori and Arcaea anyways
During the open beta of the game back in 2021, Colorful Palette opened a survey form that the players could answer with their feedbacks and at the end of the survey they asked if there was any songs we wanted to see on the WW version (I guess Echo and Copycat are two of the three you mentioned? I'm sure both were added by popular demand since CrusherP and VocaCircus are probably the two most prominent en vocaloid producers, with Kira joining them recently. But I'm not sure since I don't play jp) so yes, that and the fact that there are Colorful Corners (which are livestreams directly from the devs showcasing news about the game) specific to the worldwide version tell me that they pay a lot of attention to the enSekai playerbase.
@@antropofagica echo is added to jp as well, the 3 exclusive songs are copycat, goodbye, and highlight
Fun fact TW server have new songs released more faster than EN server
@@Maru_Batsu it makes sense because tw is released faster than en.
Me seeing a prosekai video and desperately trying not to just send a wonderhoy. Ah shit here we go again
WONDAHOY
WONDERHOY
WONDERHOY
WONDERHOY
WONDERHOY
Alright, time to do this.
13:10 - 14:23
There's team composition when you play songs where different characters offer different benefits such as maximizing the score you can get and event points. There's also your total band power which you can get by leveling up specific area items, unlocking card's stories or leveling up the cards master rank.
Oh right I forgot to mention that the girls slash band members come in the form of cards which you pull from the gacha and like all gacha games you can't get the card you want depending on the season and what they have going on and is a roll of dice to what you're getting and they're sorted by the typical gacha star rating system of 1 to 4 in rarity and as to be expected the gacha percentages are low for good cards and then you have their own currency which is crystals that you can buy from their cash shop to pull characters or use their gacha tickets to pull characters.
And each card has a different skill and the better and rarer cards can have more than one skill. The five skills are scorers, perfect lockers, healers, perfect scorers, and life scorers which all do different things. Life scorers have the highest score boost when maxed, pscorers come second, and then scorers third. Healers and perfect lockers have a lower maxed boost but for healer teams they'll give you more health and you'll be able to last longer in a song so you can enjoy being bad at the game longer but the actual use would be for the cheerful carnival events having at least 1000 hp will give you more event points and perfect lockers will change good and bad notes into perfects for a short duration so you can flex your All Perfect scores without actually being good at the game and there are three things you can train your card in which is card level, skill level, and master rank.
You can increase the card's BP and get a mastery point by reading card stories and right, card stories can be read anytime from the card screen but they cost items to read and you'll only be able to read the first one and can only read the second one when you max out the card level which costs even more items. And then when you've read the card stories you'll clear character rank missions and oh right, character missions!
They're basically 9 missions you can do that contributes to the exp towards a character's rank which are the leader lives, card duplicates, costumes, stamps, area conversations, skill level, master rank, and side stories. It's a way to show your dedication to a character or a way for you to farm rewards like crystals and stamp exchange tickets or a character fan title whenever you increase your character's rank and if you want to level up a card you can do that by just playing songs normally and the exp gained is affected by how many boost you are using and the other way is to use exp sheets to level them up straight away in the lesson training screen.
If you have a 3 or 4 star card you can further train it over their max level limit by another 10 levels and unlock new card art but note when you do this you need to make sure the cards are at their max levels and you have enough attribute gems (and rainbow gems). Ah right I forgot about the upgrade materials, in general in the game you can get item drops when you complete a song and you can get upgrade materials from there to upgrade your cards but you can also buy them in the event shop or cash shop and the other items you can get are area items that also helps increase the power of your cards based on the characters, attributes and units and area items can be upgraded which would require coins and attribute pieces and attribute gems and wish drops and mysterious seeds which are all rewards you can get from finishing songs and completing missions and right, attributes.
They're different kinds of attributes cards can have and they're cute, cool, pure, happy and mysterious and they don't affect gameplay except being matched up with items of the same attribute that will boost them.
When you have a high enough band power of over 150,000 you can get to enter the veteran room where all the players there have high band power teams too and you get more rewards, and drops when you play there. But if you're not apart of the cool veteran club of people who have spent either way too much money or time getting high band power you can also boost reward drops by playing in the multi live instead of playing solo.
I also forgot to talk about events which are stuff that are time sensitive things which is why your game will force restart if the date is different from when you left the game and like every event and story gacha game, you'll be very familiar with this screen where you're always left wondering if you have enough space left on your device but basically events-
i was bored and this took me 26 minutes
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seperated them into paragraphs because now youtube allowed me to see comments a day later and get reccomendations
typed in the words tokaku was saying in 14:20 (thanks to @Nimiu btw)
corrected very minor spelling errors
jesus fucking christ
what a gamer
🤓 (i am sorry)
Appreciate the effort xD
I recommend using paragraphs next time.
Fun fact if you skipped all the stories from event and main story to get all the tickets you could buy all the songs in the game and still have left over ticket for another 15 to 20 songs ( on JP but I think even for EN there should be way more than enough as well)
when reading en event stories they give 1 ticket only :,(
@@asingleautumnleaf171 ooof JP gives 2 per story
@@weebpatrol448 they just recently changed it to 2 on jp and when that update happened they gave everyone all the extra tickets they wouldve gotten if it was there before
@@abdulaisiyoup3912 Gachas are known to be rather stingy sometimes, I'm impressed the devs did this. Yeah Project Sekai isn't exactly a typical gacha as you can ignore the gacha aspect entirely, but it's still impressive that they increased the rewards AND gave extra tickets for previously completed stories. It's been a year, have they done the same for EN as well? I'd like to give the EN version a try.
Something I want to add about how the gacha and the rhythm game are separate is that even though focusing only on the rhythm game will give you low scores, you will eventually get better teams anyway by doing the bare minimum on the gacha side (just pulling for cards you like with the free gems they give, leveling up your 4* cards with the items you get from playing and by having them on your team) so even if you ignore 90% of the gacha aspect you'll still end up with good teams and get S scores anyway
Ngl I wasn’t all that bothered by the low scores. I was mostly focused on the combos because I sucked when I first started lol. Only time scores got to me is when I finally got a Full Combo and I still got a B-score.
true. also doing bare minimum effort on events since they give out cards and upgrade mats there too
about the story aspect of the game, i also didnt care about anything story related until i was quite a ways into the game, where i realized that i actually really liked a certain group (vivd bad squad) which made everything much more enjoyable. so yeah, i suggest finding one group you really like and reading their story, and as for the gacha system, its basically the same as all gacha systems, which is to say its pretty shitty but it works
100% agree. At first all that i cared just Miku, then i started VBS story, and holy shit their stories are actually good.
this but w wxs
@@kazozo agree. WxS story is so good. Especially with Tondemo Wonders event. It almost made me cry
@@kakyoinnoriyaki6393 ikr. i love every character in the game but wxs holds a special place in my heart. before i honestly didnt care about any of them and just played for the rhythm but then i started reading event stories and the main stories and fell inlove with so many. rui especially, he’s my highest kin and i LOVE his voice sm swear he’s got the best vocals in the game. props to toki shun he sings so amazing :((
Same here. I first got interested because the game kept giving me Kohane cards (4stars and 3stars) and I got curious. Then I started reading more and then I was invested.
11:40 Kanade's dad actually forced himself into working too hard an passed out ant lost his memories because that Kanade has a way better intelligence at making music than himself, so he feel depressed becuase of that which forced him self into working too hard
I can't wait to grab the battle pass and see you all on the Miku Battle Bus!!!
It's been 3 months since your last vid etienne:(
@@madaacha 7 now
One important tip for new players is that reading the past event stories (in the Story menu) will give you song tickets so with a bit of event farming it’s easy to catch up and unlock all the songs if you start late
I love Nightcord and would do anything for them. I also love how popular songs are available to play. In other rhythm games, there was a lack of that so I love Project Sekai
I would like to add a bit more on this as someone who have sunken into the rabbit hole that is the story and the gacha part of the game in almost 2 years.
1. There are songs in the game that are commissioned for each event that focuses on a single group! Unlike the music shop songs, those are given out for free immediately or by the end of the event depending if it comes with 2dmv or 3dmv (respectively). The songs slaps so hard and the game even managed to pull some vocaloid producers out of hiatus (Toa and Picon are the ones I can think on top of my head).
2. Oh the event bonuses, oh the events. As someone who tiers (getting as much event points as possible to rank high in the leaderboards) on events. it really do be note that the mechanics is a bit more complex now in JP than on EN, here are some differences if you somehow wanna hear prosekai gibberish
-master ranks would now give event bonus, this is mostly noticeable on 4 star and bday cards (yes, there are birthday cards, which skill and power-wise, is between 3 and 4 star cards)
-event bonus on group focus events does not require specific vocaloids, this actually starts after 1st anniversary soooo-
-rate up cards gives more bonus (70%) than just the typical card type+character bonus (50%), this also starts at 1st anniv
3. Another thing to point out is that there is a game mode in JPsekai which basically allows you to do 1v1 with someone called Ranked Match. The Accuracy boosting cards are ignored in here and the game gives you a score based on your accuracy, whoever makes the least mistakes wins
4. Wandahoiii
Wandahooi!
I have 1 question. Can I unlock all the songs including event songs without having to deal with the whole gatcha aspect? (Like leveling groups, unlocking cards, etc?) If I never level up anyone or unlock cards or create different compositions with different characters, can I still play every song in the game?
@@BS-se4yg to an extent yes, you can unlock most of the songs by skipping past all of the event and main story chapters to get music cards. However, especially on EN, these arent enough. At some point you would need to grind 1k event tokens which is easier than it sounds, as long as you have some 3 stars and most if not all of the initial two star cards it should be painless, just make sure the team you are using match either the event attribute, the boosted characters, or both, this does need gacha but it isn't a heavy mandatory, this is to redeem 10 music cards per event in the event shop!
*✨WANDAHOIIIII✨*
Been playing for around 3 months and honestly the gacha is super non-invasive and I do prefer it to the alternative of ads everywhere as someone who doesn’t spend. I like that each gacha pull feels worth it since the dupes let you raise other cards and the rate for a 4 star (not a specific character) is good enough that you can get a full team quick and score well.
The rhythm game part is really fun and multi lives are very addictive. What sold me on the game was actually the character writing. They all feel pretty multifaceted and unlike some other gacha games, they don’t shy away from unlikeable characters being pullable. Wouldn’t be the rhythm game I would recommend if you don’t like visual novels since it’s pretty much 50/50 (even if you can basically ignore either side).
I only play on JP, cuz global isn’t available to me (I live in Belgium) so I just wanna say some stuff.
I don’t understand anything about the story lol, I can’t read Japanese. But yeah the gameplay is very well designed.
7:38 It actually goes up to 36, they changed the rating of some charts as the old ratings were too accurate. They’re still the same charts tho.
Trying to explain any gacha card system is wayyyy too hard lol, I don’t really pay much more attention than the card skills.
It’s a pretty fun game tho.
Just asking, what do you mean by too accurate. Im kinda a new player lol. As in I just started without any info.
@@tianchengteh1695 I think they meant too inaccurate. Back when the max rating was 34 at least five songs are 34 even though they are different in actual difficulty
you should also give D4DJ Groovy Mix a try, it's basically sound voltex with the slider mechanism
I came from Bandori, so I was pretty used to the items and gacha and all that because it's fairly similar in Bandori. I actually think the way Bandori is set up in some aspects is better than Sekai especially at the start because Sekai is a huge grind at the beginning. Of course after falling in love with Roselia, the Bandori group whose main motivation is to surpass the music created by one of the bandmembers' fathers, where part of the group comes off very unlikeable at first because they feel like a newer member is less serious about music and shouldn't be in the group, and where at this point in their story they're all kind of just chilling and being friends, I started playing Sekai and fell in love with VBS. You will never be able to guess why.
It's in the surpassing ;)
Ngl i came from bandori and idk which i prefer- bandoris covers just don't really sound good but kokoro doesn't either- kokoro is adorable and the best character in bandori- but most of the characters in bandori are more goofy and light headed or really really serious. Project sekai has more of a range. But i like the clothes in bandori so much more- its easyer to get clothing and ngl i think they are much cuter- project sekai takes too long to save for materials and they aren't actually personal clothes like bandori.
Overall everything that was said makes sense for a first impression, but I personally thought the story bit was fine. I did start playing the game because I saw "Vocaloid rhythm game" and since Project Diva was basically dead, I played this specifically for the songs with no care for the new characters. Though, after reading one group story at a time, I think I had a better appreciation for the characters. Also, gacha is *not at all* necessary to read the story. The main stories can be completed by just playing with the default cards of a character from that group if you really felt like it, and the event stories can be read after the event has already concluded. The only gacha required stories are the side stories, which you won't be missing out on too much by skipping (but they're worth a read if you're invested anyways).
I came from love live, a game destroyed by money hungry gacha practices, to colorful stage. The gameplay is SO fun. I'm glad you acknowledged just how nice it is. When it comes to gacha... its really easy to get lost in the gameplay and just focus on playing songs & clearing the current event, and then looking up at your gems and being like, oh cool i can do a gacha pull. I love how it isn't forced onto you for this game. If you want to get a high score, you can do multi lives and other peoples teams can help pad out your score with some good old fashioned teamwork. Also I will say I really enjoy the story for Nightcord at 25:00 specifically. It can be a bit edgy but I like how it takes itself seriously and its not just some idol bs. Might just be biased bc I really like K
I like 'Yuki' cuz I could relate to her in some aspects-- 25ji story is really depressing though, it portrays Manipulation perfectly
Genuinely the story in this game are very well written!!! I love all the bands, my favorite is niigo and mizuki (obv by pfp haha) also mmj is actually the only group that are idols, the rest just has a tie to music
6:59 Sega does what Konadon't
I play Prosekai simply for the songs and the gameplay, so I like the JP version wayyyy better because it has a lot more songs. Also, had I never played project sekai I never would've gotten into Eve (he is amazing btw) and other amazing Japanese artists. And I also wouldn't be as into Vocaloid as I am now, so I absolutely do not regret getting into Prosekai .
Same! If it werent for This game i wouldn't have been into vocaloid! Nor i discover Ado! Songs that ive listened to recently by them and i still can remember the name of
Odo
Loveka?
Readymade
Useewa
That one Bella song i forgot the name of
Finally, tokaku can feel the wonderhoy spirit that is project sekai
I play the game daily, and as someone that doesn't really play gacha games usually, I actually found this one pretty intuitive, but I understand that learning so many mechanics when you just wanna play Bitter Choco Decoration is a huge hassle, so no judgement from me! I agree that the story starts really slowly, but it's definitely really good, I enjoy reading how the characters actually develop, and even though the story is mainly an excuse to get them in new outfits, it's nice to see that what happens during the events actually matter in the grand scheme of things. Overall, I think it's a really good game even though I don't quite like the gacha part of it!
I agree with most points made here, theres only 2 things that I disagree on, mainly because its more of a first impressions review, which are:
- I personally feel like the storytelling is pretty neat, Ive finished the main stories for wxs, vbs and 25ji, and I found myself quite invested on the stories and characters, like I even started loving a character that I disliked before reading the story (Rui), so thats something I guess. I also tried unlocking the whole wxs story before reading and actually finished it in one go, which is surprising considering my short attention span.
-The other thing is with the scoring being dependant on the gacha, I feel like in this case we as a community dont really care about the score at all? Like you will never see anyone saying like "omg look I got a high score", we only rly care about the accuracy, so its just a thing you eventually get used to. Score only really matters on coop, but coop rewards also only matter if you are interested in the gacha.
When it comes to the story, it's good to farm to read all main story of one group, do their key story event stories, and only then start another one and repeat. I read thru everything like this and it's actually really nice when you focus on just one at a time instead of 5 lol
I am glad you got to take a look at this game since I really feel in love with it myself. I tended to avoid Idol games myself but came to this one since I love Vocaloid, I really liked the chunithm like gameplay and when I started reading the stories, I feel in love with the characters and it has become my daily driver game, though it did take me to getting to the event stories for the majority of my love to be found. It really has become this wonderful thing in my life, despite my troublers with gacha games. I wonder if they will ever do a console release of Sekai like they did with Bang Dream.
The hold release, as an arcaea,phigros and lanota player, IS DEADLY
Especially if it's a flick note at the end
@@MangInutil yeah, that's why I uninstall project sekai
Don't forget that in the japanese version. there is a ranked 1v1 match where it depends on your accuracy and I would say it's pretty good, they are doing tournaments stuff too in JP
pjsekai is the only idol game where i liked the beatmaps, characters, story and card visuals all together
I never played this game but did follow piapro collaboration when the game still on plan (hasn't released yet). Most of Game with Miku in it usually getting the song and the design from piapro, music, illust, and costume design. I'm sure they archived it on old pia official collaboration pages on piapro
Dissapeareance of miku and Intense singing usually ranked so hard because it's from cosmoP, producers who create over 200bpm vocaloid musics
I was the same way; I only knew here and there knowledge about vocaloids but once I started getting into the game more, the story and the characters are really cool. I also like how thumb friendly it is and how you’re not restrained by stamina. New songs are constantly being added (including a Tuyu song soon) and its exciting to play the maps
This actually looks kinda fun no lie. Nice review! I can feel the energy with this one :)
Technically only one of the five groups is an idol group lol, but I can see how the game can give people that impression. Take out all the stereotypical gacha game factor (and/or anything Miku related, if you're worried about that) and you get a fairly decent rhythm game.
i started playing like 2 months ago and it's a pretty fun game, took me a long time to figure out how everything worked because it is pretty confusing since there is no tutorial or anything but overall I enjoy it (apart from the gacha im not trying to get a gambling addiction)
OMGG YAYY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. One of my favorite games in all honesty
i love how project sekai notes generally easier to see, compared to bandori
i really bad at bandori slides/flicks
I don't mind flicks in both game but with how forgiving project sekai is with the slider where you can accidentally let go of the slider for a bit and not miss, I can't go back playing bandori now lol
the part when you talked about old charts vs new charts is still sort of noticeable in project sekai, but definitely not as much as in other rythm games. i have an account on both JP and EN servers, and i have to say the newer JP charts are just so fun! so many fun patterns and shapes compared to what EN currently has. but they’re on their way there lol
Idk if it's just me but flicks work only when they want to work, it could be because of that tap+flick mechanic but it's really annoying
Yeah same,like I just keep missing flicks randomly and I dont know why
It might be best to flick to the side. They tend to be more responsive than flicking upwards or anything
As you play, flicks seems to just seem to want work more and more though - I found them really annoying my first couple weeks playing but after a couple of months I rarely have issues (and I have no clue what I changed :D)
@@JoshiIsAYoshi your skill changed... you just got better
Idk I constently see people hating on flick notes but I personnally never had any problems with them. Maybe it's because I play on an IPad with my indexs? Idk, but they work well for me.
Wow, thank you so much for this video. I had no idea this game existed, and as a big fan of Bang Dream, I already love it.
I don’t care very much about the gacha side, but the gameplay side is so good, and the fact you can fairly easily unlock any song in the game without paying any money is amazing.
I skipped through all the hundreds of event stories for the music sheets, and could buy almost 30 songs from the shop before I even played a single song lol. Incredible.
Been waiting for this video!!
13:00.
So it's almost the same as Bandori. Gotcha.
I'm getting bored playing Bandori and I want to switch to Project Sekai since there's a lot of songs, and some of my favorites are there as well. So I'm switching over. Guess I'm officially a Project Sekai player after this.
For me who was mainly play idol game I find it was well make in part of rhythm game also story too but the part I like this game most is how SEGA threat vocaloid artist they gave a commission song (I guessed how it call) to draw out their personalities to their song and get the new audience like me but for some artists like TOA it like he was bring back to vocaloid world he come to active again after get commission song for pjsk
PS.sorry if my English so bad😅
I’m so happy you made a video on ProSeka!
This was fun to watch! Personally, I really love idol rhythm games and my favorites are Bandori and Ensemble Stars. I’d like to see you review some more!!
5:48 The reason pjsk plays so similarly to Chunithm is at least partially because the charts are made with a charting engine made originally for a Chunithm simulator
thanks for the interesting and comprehensive video on the technical rhythm part of the game.
personally I may consider sometimes the tolerant hitbox (more than 1 lane wider than the note size) confusing when it comes to touching/overlapping notes (at the same time) or short trills (1 lane long at the middle) as sometimes they may make an unexpected note correspondence which leads to misses (bandori usually keeps a "safe distance" between notes to prevent that) though that's what they are using to create special patterns. (may be decouraging but not too bad as infinite retries are allowed)
flick notes: I saw from somewhere that they are judged by frame moving distance (instantaneous speed in short), so sometimes weird misses may occur. Also that no judgment is carried out outside the 12 lanes may affect flick experience (as the hitbox indicates it can be wider)
slide notes adapt a similarly strict timing window and do continuous judgments (just like osu sliders) so even with that wider hitbox it may be difficult to catch up accurately when it comes to large movements (also not to go outside the 12 lanes) (though it can be easier as it supports multiple fingers on a single slider)
(cheesing all perfect with plocks may not be that easy as the coverage is fixed (just like bandori) and not by time interval)
btw. I have not done any gacha (as it is not forced by tutorial) even after 120 master full combos (before Lv 60) as I only believe in guaranteed 4*. 100k+ jewels as of now so it seems not too difficult to gain the first 90k jewels (300 pulls) without an S score (just merely a B score) to begin with (just like bandori, a shared score reward but separated combo reward, so it looks more focused on the rhythm game part) (but unlike bandori, multiplayer score rank is still separated from one own's score rank)
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MY WHOLE LIFE❤❤❤
I've been playing this game since the Beta release in JP and have been playing consistently for two years now, so seeing you do a video review on Project Sekai made me happy and nervous at the same time! Only because I know you tend to be critical towards games with Gacha elements implemented into them. But I was very happy, excited even, to see all of your praises and constructive criticisms towards the game. I hope many people see this video of yours and decide to try it out! Thank you for making it!
Hi, I've been a sekai player for like 3 months now and I wanna share my experience with the gacha.
The gacha in this game, while pretty unforgiving in terms of rates, is actually pretty nice. Most cards are basically the same but with different artworks, and you only have to get specific cards for events if you really care about ranking high or idk clearing 100% of the shop.
I personally just pick 3-5 characters I like and only roll on their banners (most of them are also from the same band so it's easier to get them), and for teams I just use my best score up characters that I have right now even if they're characters I don't care for.
I personally don't like the "cheater cards" (the ones that let you ignore accuracy for a few seconds) but after a lot of frustrating fc attempts where I choked or didn't hit in time because on global my offset is wrong by .5 (I need the more accurate offset sega please 😭) I learned to like them a bit. They're good to get fc on songs you grinded for a long time and know you can fc but just have terrible luck and keep choking and stuff. Even with 5 cheaters in the teams the skills aren't active for most of the game so you can't just fc a song you're bad at.
You can play the game without doing gacha, but you'll have a harder time getting rewards from events and won't have access to veteran co-op unless you somehow level up your overworld items thingies so much you get to 150k with only 1 stars (idk if that's even possible tbh, probably some veterans can do it idk)
what I loved about project sekai is that it's easy to play. I'm a first timer in rhythm games, but I was able to play expert just by playing a ton in a few months.
the chart really matched the song itself. love that.
As a visual person, and a rythm game fanatic, I really struggle with these games (a lot), but proseka was one of those games (for me) that, even without the sound, you can FC songs, I don't actually know what the developers did differently to achieve this but thanks to that the game is really fun. The only thing that I didn't like aside from the gacha (which I skipped bc meh) was the fact that you had to play with specific members to unlock their group story, but to solve that I just watched the story on youtube.
15:08 im not sure if it was different 10 months ago, but if you hold down on the item icon(rather than tapping) a brief description of the item's usage and where to get it pops up(notably a little vague ie "can be obtained from shows"). found that out on accident when i was tapping on the item, so it is a little confusing.
i wanted to play a vocaliod rhythy game on the go so i first tried emulating psp and tried to play project diva. it kinda lagged, and also because i sucked at touch controls i needed to bring a stand, otg cable, mini usb cable and my dualshock 3 which wasn't really portable and kinda weird to take to school. and then i found about this game. the game was good but on my not good phone it lagged so hard i ended up buying a psp instead. nowadays i sometimes play it on my ipad but half of the screen is not visible because it's broken so i need to move the game to the functional part with jailbreak tweaks which isn't that ideal. which is kind of a shame since there were some songs that i really liked.
SEA REGION CAN FINALLY PLAY PROJECT SEKAI OWO
I can see you were super invested in the story and everything, so much courage
I started playing Project Sekai awhile ago and I’m a pretty casual player. Gameplay was a bit difficult at first because of the whole Good = Combo Lost thing, but I adapted. I haven’t read any of the event stories but the character’s personalities, interactions, design, and motivations really grew on me. It’s fun learning about these characters and it kinda just makes you wonder “Why?” Like once you start thinking about the small tidbits of info, it just makes you curious. At least, that’s how it is for me.
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Did you mean Becoming Potatoes?
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you mean they want to be potatoes?
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So much damn information 🤯
im happy you rated pjsekai because i was wondering what you would of though about it before! very intresting video :D
Really appreciate the subtitles in the video! Just wanted to point that out!
Honestly, the only reason I pay attention to the fluff about cards, skills, etc. is to get crystals. Levelling up cards and "reading" the stories are pretty much the only way to get some crystals consistently as a f2p (aside from event rewards and clearing a new song)
I cringed everytime you called the whole characters idols cuz the only unit whos idol focused is more more jump 😭
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I was pleasantly surprised with this review! I play pjsk daily (on all 4 servers) and it was my first rhythm game actually. I was just (if not more) confused as you were in the begining lol
I’ve been playing Project Sakai for a few months at this point, and I agree with a lot of the things you said. The gameplay is really fun (and actually protect sekai was my first impression of rhythm games!) and the music has (surprisingly) grown on me, but I have no idea what the heck is going on in the actual storyline/ gacha part of the game
Crinicle huhdhfjfkd. His meaurements are very usefull what can I say.
For how I see this game, it’s pretty good for me. I don’t care about the gacha nor the fact you don’t get a higher rank after playing, I just play for the rhythm game itself. And, well, the charts are pretty good in my opinion, they’ve made me better at reading notes in the game, and as well as some other rhythm games.
Overall, the rhythm game side of this game is pretty good. Also, thanks for the flick note fact.
1:10 korean and taiwan versions of the game exist. TW is around the same as EN event wise i think and kr is behind, but got their first lim gacha! I recommend playing KR sekai for the beginning rewards
15:07 it works when you tap and hold the icon
17:02 bffr 😁
on top of the characters there’s queer rep with mizuki (implied trans woman), akito, touya (gay coded) and an and kohane (gay coded) which is VERY rare for idol games
I don’t know if this should go here but if you’re looking for more queer rep in idol games ensemble stars also has an open transfem character, arashi narukami! (and the cast is generally accepting of this) Even though the game is crowded with bl fanservice so it might not be for most people.
@@Jammie-3- doesn’t enstars literally have canon murderers, homophobes, transphobes and other terrible characters in the game though😭?? i’ve considered trying enstars so many times for the arashi trans rep but i’ve literally seen lists of the crimes that the characters have committed and i’m not sold in the slightest
I love how you used my favorite song in the game to represent flick notes. (BRING IT ON just has an amazing vibe lol)
i swear i've been wating for this video.
I am begging you to review Idolish7- it’s story first gacha second and boy is the storytelling S++
also as a rhythm player i have no idea why i absolutely hate the rhythm game portion but i don’t know why ???? like i don’t know why but it’s so unsatisfying ?????
is the gameplay good tho
calling all the groups "idol groups" feels wrong because the only idol group is more more jump, An's dad is NOT an idol, he's a street performer, all the groups have their different musical styles and performing types, its an "idol game" without the "idol focus"
My favorite aspect of the gameplay is how forgiving it is with button presses. That and I don’t have to worry about pressing the right button. Def a fav rhythm game of mine.
An idol game I think you should try, which is quite similar to Proseka, is Ensemble stars :D
Personally, it was a coping method for me after not being able to get Proseka, but then I got really into it.
The English release came out a few months ago (and can actually be accessed in sea region thank god ;v;)
It focuses on male idols, and the story is actually surprisingly dark at times, which is one of the reasons I love it! (stuff like cults, cannibalism, abuse, fun all around :))
I can't give a good review of the rhythm gaming since I'm no professional, but all songs can be accessed from the start! (and no timed holds woop)
1:16 QooApp power
6:37 firebird
it does really annoy me that you basically only get a c rank unless you have a full team of max level 5 star characters, which would definitely cost money to roll in the gacha, but i figure it's not really a big deal so i just play the songs anyway
usually i skip the story stuff to get the song tickets though cause i'm not really into idol stuff either, miku is just the exception for me
The thing is lvl 50 and 40 cards can get you an A rank, you just need to buff up your groups challenge level and decorations, they do a lot more bonus than mastery or skill up
really good video! also imo the entire backbone of this game is vocaloid (or vocal synth in general), the people they commission or collab with for everything have some form of relation to the vocaloid community, be it artist or producer etc. most people join for the vocaloid stuff and then they see if they like the human characters or not. i've been playing since day 1 (on JP) as an avid vocaloid fan and i've honestly still read incredibly little about the characters, i just play the rhythm game because its vocaloid songs and the charting is generally really good. i dont really feel forced to gacha because its a lost cause lmao
I’m someone who tries a lot of “idol” type games but I have trouble sticking with them for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. I’ve been able to stick with project sekai though because the actual rhythm gameplay is so great. It feels so much more responsive than other mobile rhythm games I’ve played, I love that you can unlock songs at will, and the charting and use of flick notes is really great and doesn’t feel as clunky as some other idol games *cough* Bandori *cough*. Honestly it’s a really great game and I’d definitely encourage you to keep playing, it really grew on me.
Project Sekai is definitely one of the rhythm games of all time
i dont watch tokaku for the rhythm games reviews, i watch her for the yuri media references
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ive only started playing prsk last week but honestly its a great game (maps are fun, most maps are thumb friendly, etc)
personally for me, i love the characters and i like the story so that probably adds to the experience. the gacha isnt that bad compared to other gachas and i quickly got ahold of the card leveling system even if i was confused in the beginning. but yea, i think its a good game overall, def would recommend
finally, tokaku pops up on my rec right as i started to realize i forgot her yt user and wanted to find her