Is The Invicta Pro Diver As Good As The Rolex Submariner?
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Is the fit and finish of a Rolex worth the extra 8,500$?
The question really should be "is an Invicta + $10,000 in the bank as good as a Rolex?"...
I'm not a Rolex fan but you could easily resell a popular Rolex model for the same or more than you bought it for in future so the comparison is a bit more complicated
I agree with this comment . Most people nowadays mainly Americans such as myself go by brand and buy things like a rolex over a invicta watch which both tell time , or to impress people who dont really care about you because those who care about you dont care about how much your watch cost☮️❤️
@@healthycitizen1926 Well said.
@@healthycitizen1926 It depends: some people don't buy a watch just to tell the time (if everyone did that, mechanical watches would not exist, as they're more expensive and less accurate than quartz), they buy it because of the history behind a certain watch (for example, people willing to buy the Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch cal.321 don't just buy it for the status, but because of the watch's historical significance as a reissue of the first watch on the moon) or because of the timepiece's durability compared to others (which is why Casio G-Shock is such a popular brand when it comes to rugged and resistant watches, as they built their entire brand identity around this niche). Buying a watch to impress your peers is wrong (unless you yourself also really like the watch) as it's guaranteed you'll eventually grow dissatisfied of it. You should buy a watch for yourself and yourself only (unless it's a gift for someone else).
@@llary not true
I'll soon be 73 years old and I've been wearing an Invicta Pro Diver for about 2 1/2 years. I wear it because I like it. The name means nothing to me. I've always purchased low cost watches due to my type of work. The Pro Diver is by far the best watch I've ever owned. I set it about every 3 days and it's usually about 1 minute off. It's a tough watch and really takes the abuse. Even though the Invicta has a Rolex look, I've never had anyone ask me if it's a Rolex. That is because today, 99%+ don't give a flip. What really turns people on today is a costly cell phone.
Great!!!!!! Perfect to me...
Lol I didn’t even think of that. I’ll hear more ppl say “oh is that the new iPhone 20 pro max xr plus???” than “nice watch”
Nobody cares about your cell phone either lol
I'm old, too. Bought a couple of Invicta quartz divers and could not be happier. They look good and are extremely accurate. With the $7900 I saved I bought a new motorcycle.
LOL! 1 minute every 3 days is CRAZY inaccurate. My watch takes about 2 months to lose a minute.
My experience: The typical Invicta wearer is a watch enthusiast. The typical Rolex wearer wants a status symbol.
@@greenlighttransport8320poor or stingy enthusiast are still enthusiast nonetheless
Oooof.
My Rolex was stolen at knifepoint Sept 2000. I bought my Invicta (shown above) a month after. It's been 21 yrs and it's a fantastic watch. Had I known about Invicta, I would've never bothered with my Rolex!!! Live and learn !!! Have a great day!!
how often did you service it?
@@DirtHero75 lmao I wouldn't service a invicta just buy another
@@DirtHero75 if you want to keep it for a lifetime you would be good with once every decade. After 10 years it should be serviced. - you could buy a new one as well, but I prefer keeping the things I have rather than replacing and throwing away
The lesson you learned should of been learning how to better protect yourself, not buying a cheap watch. But to each their own I guess
You bought a rolex for a reason, no way invicta can replace that
I have a Rolex submariner, my friend has a Invicta sub, we don't even talk about it everyone thinks we wear the same watch
Haha. It seems you touched a nerve. And agreed. Most people don't know enough to tell the diff.
@@firstdurhamite1142 both of you are waterheads
@@gowthamsiddarth20 you’re a jealous waterhead
@@firstdurhamite1142 hahaha, I want to know that too.
@@firstdurhamite1142 It implies that your cranium does not have a brain, hence water would be the only material remaining.
Quite frankly, you'd be hard pressed to find another $80 watch that holds up so well compared to an 8k watch.
Yeah he’s bitching about that’s it’s not quite up to par with fit and finish compare to a watch that is A THOUSAND PERCENT more money! What a douche
Makes you wonder, other than the luxury name, why exactly is the submariner exactly 1000% more expensive with minor “sharpness” and “smoothness” details. Oh and he forgot to mention you have to service the submariner, and you could buy a 100 of the invictas.. not saying it’s as good but dude, GTFO with the nitpicking
So 2 for $105. Delivered is a good deal ? One 2 tone the other called batman?
@@dinoturkic9684 Clearly didn't watch the video or know anything about watches, get a load of this guy.
@@tannerlarson276 I did watch the video.. what did I get wrong?
The fact that you can compare a $80 Watch vs a $8000.- watch is insane! So do we pay to much for a Rolex? I think this is a yes!
*too
*tooo
When I bought my Invicta I didn't even know about potential comparisons to Rolex. I just wanted
*a Quality watch.
*Hey, it's an Automatic! My last automatic was a gift that lasted over 25 years!
*Waterproof
*Looks great for special occasions or when I'm singing in concerts
*You can't beat all this for $51.99!!
Who needs to spend $10,000 on a luxury timepiece
@@robillingworth8503 plus you don’t have to worry about being robbed and killed over a $10,000 watch. Idk I can’t see the value of any watch being $300. Especially since society is falling apart
Prob pay too much but I mean there is no comparison 😂. You pay for the quality and reliability plus the name. And hey if you don’t care and just want to get the look go for it. I have a Rolex and a timex. I wear the timex every day.
I've owned both and still own the submariner. Bottom line is, the gap of saving for years and to aquire one is only gonna set you a couple of seconds closer every month between the two. A watch is a watch and any of these will tell the time accurately. And you dont need a fancy bling to live the present time no matter what the metal chunk on your wrist says. The money you invested in them is for yourself only and shouldn't temper on your current happiness or the ability to enjoy life altogether. Things don't need to be unreachable to be enjoyable
Absolutly true. Besides, nowadays.. I'd rather wear the invicta on the streets than risking being attacked or even killed because of wearing the Rolex.
I own 3 Rolex brand watches,Submariner,Daytona and a Date just. Compared to my Invicta Bolt and Grand Octane. Aside from the price difference they are both good brands. You get what you pay for.
My dear sir, that was very eloquently said, and completely dead on. Thank you sir.
The main difference between the two watches is that the invicta can be used without constantly fearing to scratch it or be robbed...The Rolexes (in most cases) are destined to pass their life closed in a safe.
Well, actually you have a good point here. Because where can you even wear a Rolex nowadays? I mean, cities like Johannesburg, Sao Paulo, London, NYC: good luck when you're walking over there with a watch that has the price of a luxury car. I live in the Netherlands. Two months ago a footballer (Zahavi) and his wife were robbed here because his wife showed off her Rolex at Instagram. That's reality. Very sad but also very true.
@@kngkrmson2179 I’m from San Francisco, literally there are like three buildings in the FiDi that I’d feel safe in wearing a submariner. Outside I’d be in fear that I’d get murdered then robbed for it. Dark times dude.
@@billysinge8977 if youre afraid of literally being murdered just so they could grab your watch, rather than like "give me your watch or ill stab you" type transaction, then you should probably not being wearing a Rolex clone...
@@kngkrmson2179 you get it. There’s a point where excess becomes dangerous. I would not feel comfortable wearing a Sub in public these days.
I wear my rolex daily so thats not the case
I wouldn’t expect a $100 watch to feel like an $8k watch.
If you hold both of them with closed eyes you won't know which is which if not for the etching and glass caseback. My point is that the Invicta doesn't feel like a £100 watch, more like a 3k :)
The guy just spent 30 mins to explain to us that $80 and $8000 watches don't feel the same...
@@MultiMusickLover buy all of the invicta you want. They will never be a rolex lol. Sorry
@@bth2278 I see that you don't understand my comment but that's ok :) it will never be a Rolex, that's more than obvious. It's just a watch that looks and feels more expensive than it actually is.
@@MultiMusickLover the same can be said for a piece of iron compared to a piece of gold.
Pro diver is my main watch for 5 years. I never took it off my wrist on my daily basis. I have been diving, snorkeling swimming and everything without worrying. The mineral glass and the metals are extremely well built. Seiko NH35 movement also is very reliable.
Do you shower with it ?
@@jeembaymusic5271 wtf, of course yes
Did you have to have the watch serviced?
@@VolkswagenGolf2GTI never
*tooo
I have the Swiss movement version and changed a few things.. changed the bezel to a high quality ceramic bezel, added a sapphire crystal and changed the bracelet to a full stainless steel with no polish. I love it, it looks great, runs great and it has taken a few bad hits and still 0 scratches, i use it almost every day
You could have avoided all that by simply buying the Steeldive version of this Rolex and you would be set. I will never buy this Invicta watch until it gets a sapphire crystal and a milled locking clasp instead of the cheap looking stamped clasp it currently comes with. Steeldive did not cut corners like Invicta and more and more people are starting to buy that watch.
@@Fausto_Fauquer i like to wear things nobody has, with the 4 changes i made to the watch it feels different and special, i also prefer 40mm case than 41mm and swiss movement over japan movement
Owned my Invicta for a few years.
It keeps incredible time. The best of many many other automatics I own.
Built like a tank and seems difficult to scratch. I have tried ☺️
I would recommend this watch.
Good recommendation.
Have you scratched your easily?
@@fgarciz This watch (8926OB) is one of the easiest to drop a 15 dollar sapphire crystal into. I have done it multiple times. (also the 7043, for an nh36 movement). Both keep to within 5 seconds a day, the nh35 being a little better.
That's a compliment for Seiko haha
@@gerard4870 where can one get a sapphire crystal for 15 dollars?
the question is: is the Submariner 80 times better than the Invicta? probably not.
Rolex is the better watch, better history, pedigree, status, movement, quality, finish, etc.
If money is no issue, then, by all means, the Rolex is the way to go, it's the original one after all.
If you can't pay 8 thousand dollars but want the look, I don't see why you wouldn't spend 100 bucks on it. It's pretty good for the money.
Now I don't have to leave a comment ! But I might anyway !
Plenty of other good value options to the Invicta Pro-Diver; Steinart, San Martin, Parnis, Pagani, Loreo etc. There is one youtuber (I Like Watches) who is comparing 10 Rolex Submariner homages in a multi-series head to head - including the Invicta Pro-diver.
David Topchiev;
YEAH MAN!!
Is invicta 8x the watch of $10 casio? Probably not either so what’s the point? No Rolex owners buy their watches to compare it to that of invicta nor Patek
@@GSTRification The point is if you're spending $8000 on a watch you should be getting a far superior product to an $80 one. That price difference should be justifiable. Comparing how many times more a product costs is a nonsensical comparison and basically a strawman. The actual price difference matters. The $70 more you spend on the Invicta vs a $10 Casio is immediately apparent to be far more justifiable vs the $7900 price difference in the Invicta vs Rolex. One price difference is the cost of a dinner out the other price difference is more than twice the average US monthly salary.
Saving $8,400+ and still having a 95% similar to the Rolex Submariner watch on my wrisk is what would makes me happy. Great comparison BTW,
Here’s the thing: the Invicta Pro Diver offers the best bang for the buck - period! You get a 200 meter diver with applied indices, screw down crown, screw down case back, a NH35 automatic movement from Seiko that can be regulated to within COSC specifications, meaning +- 2 seconds a day, a solid bracelet with solid end links and if you go for the blue dial you’ll also get one of the most amazing sunburst dials of all time, that goes from almost black over a deep to a medium blue all the way to purple depending on the light source and if you want you can have the watch either in two-tone or solid 18K gold plating and all that for less than a hundred bucks! It’s a no brainer!
I have the two tone. have got many compliments on it. it just looks nice and works. end of story.
@JohnGriffith222 yeah! I have one that is all gold plated with a black dial and I also have the Blusey in two tone.
I've invested a large part of my family fortune in an Invicta.
You're not alone me too i Love Them
Love it! LOL
With Rolex is a name more than anything not the product
@@jgatkinson744 .... Given the fact that my Sub is 27 years old and still looks and works like new, even though it has been on my arm all that time, I would say that there actually IS more to a ROLEX than just the name.
@@michaeljaquish9708 Which model do you have exactly?
I’m a watch guy and for that Rolex to be 30 years old it’s still beautiful. But for that invicta to be just under a 100 and it comes close or even better on some aspects it’s something to purchase. For someone who would never spend $8k or $32k for a watch, this invicta is something to buy without a thought. But it’s the name that people will pick one over the other
Thing is, you can buy a Rolex and other than the service, you can wear it for free. With the Daytona, get paid for owning it. The wealthy are buying some Rolexes as investments, also driving up the price.
@@Ratbeeitch 8k is calling it "free"...
@@user-ty9cg5dd6g yes, when you sell it a few years down the road you'll at a minimum get your money back.
I go with the Invicta all day long. The price difference is huge! You get enough watch for your money with Invicta
Loved the review. Admittedly, I don't own a Rolex and have never handled one in real life. However, I do own four Invictas, including two dive model automatics. All of my Invictas look great and have been super reliable. You simply cannot beat Invicta's quality for the money. As another commenter stated, they really are built like tanks. I have a 200M and a 300M for the dive watches. I certainly didn't buy them for the Rolex look. I bought them because they were Invicta!
Been wearing my pro diver since 2000. Never serviced. It will never die. Even the gold tone has not worn off. Keeps perfect time. Mine has the miyota/citizen mvmt
After the oils dry up and start attracting dust, you're gonna wish you took that watch in for an occasional preventative maintenance! Totally ignoring ANY mechanical machine is just irresponsible ownership!
@@TheCometHunter who's going to service a $100 watch?! just wait till it dies and get another. It ain't a Rolex.
@@TheCometHunter Calm down man, after 20 years owning an Invicta I believe no one will give a crap if the coating will wear off/
Just replase the movement when it dries off. Will be cheaper than getting it serviced and you can do it yourself with a bit of preparation and research. This is why I like the seiko NH-line in cheapos because it's so ubiquitous
@@popporooful exactlyyyy jasjaj
I'm just weird, all the Invicta bashing actually makes me want one now lol.....
They are great watches with a huge variety I love them I have a collection
I actually on the same exact invicta I love it I bought one for my son as well
I have an auto and a quartz. Love both of them
Lmao people love to hate Invicta because of their loud and gaudy watches, so when they actually drop something excellent, it just blows people's minds 🤣
I’m buying one just for the hell of it.
Another old guy here (62). I bought an Invicta Pro Diver precisely because it looks so much like the Rolex Submariner worn by my favorite actor Steve McQueen, but I can’t justify spending 8000 bucks on a wristwatch. If anyone asks me if my watch is a Rolex I’ll just tell them no it’s not, and I’m not Steve McQueen. Love my Invicta and enjoyed your video.
My invicta pro diver has survived 3 years, 6 different countries, snow, water and accidents. Honestly, whatever the criticism might be about it, its built to last and it certainly doesn't break the bank👏🏼
I’m actually kind of impressed by the Invicta Pro Diver
I’ve got a grand diver. Had it for about 6yrs. It’s been sitting on a winder since the clock change and is currently sitting at just less than a minute fast after More than a month. It’s almost the cheapest watch I own and one of the most reliable and accurate. It needs a new bezel insert but that’s it!
@@markhamilton7289 my dads whole collection is mainly Invicta and I just bought him a Pro Diver for Father’s Day, hope he loves it!
A very fair comparison indeed. Maybe it would be fun to give both watches to a none watch person to review them, then tell them how much each one is worth :)
Stoic Student they have to cover up the brand though, because even people who don't know watches know what a rolex is
@David Topchiev if the submariner is ugly and the prodiver is a copy, does that make the Invicta ugly and cheap??.....
@David Topchiev Yup, i don't know what all the fuss about Rolex is to be honest, the watch market is flooded with cheaper and arguably better alternatives, as a buyer that is...watch flippers love them for obvious reasons. You can't deny Rolex are on another level when it comes to marketing. They probably could sell sand to Arabs and Ice to Eskimos
@David Topchiev, if the product you mention is so over rated, then why are there so many different companies essentially making the same watch with in some cases nearly identical styling.
As for the price, this is what the market will bear. They are still flying off the assembly line and are rarely in stock so that means someone is buying them and they are still in demand. Terms like better are subjective and so far none of the other "homages" use a different or "superior" steel and the movements in these "homages" usually use a Seiko movement not one they either own or made themselves.
Please understand, I'm not a Fanboy of either company, just pointing out the differences between the two products being compared.
Won't work. Even non watch people know the name Rolex.
Honestly, I prefer the look of the Invicta over the Rolex. I know it's older but the Rolex just looks dated. The Invicta is more modern looking to me. The Rolex logo and an extra couple gaskets aren't worth anywhere near an almost $8k difference in my opinion. Invicta all day. You can buy 80+ Invictas for the same money and never once get caught wearing the same piece in public twice. An overwhelming majority wouldn't even be able to distinguish between the two if the logos were removed, which probably doesn't sit well with people who dump the equivalent of a used car's worth on a wrist timepiece. This isn't the 19th or 20th century anymore, watches should not cost more than $500 unless it's a legitimate antique or collector's item.
To be completely fair a junk used car the price of a rolex would eventually be worth so little you’d be paying more to keep it running or to get rid of it than it costs while a roley will more often than not appreciate in value
And since Rolex’s ARE collectors items, that’s their high price tag, which you mention as well
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Wtf are you talking about there's not a lot of difference
Bought an Invicta Pro Diver Quartz for my brother.
He uses it for work, got smashes several times, still ticks and still look decent.
He loves how it looks good, feels solid but it’s totally easy to replace should it ever brake.
Great content as always!
That pro diver looks mighty fine. Good affordable watch.
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Its a great watch I own one
it's a fantastic watch for the price. an actual diver watch you can comfortably take diving.
This watch was only 55 bucks for Prime Day on Amazon. I picked one up and am eagerly awaiting its delivery.
I did the same. Should be here this weekend. For the price I couldn’t pass it up.
I got mine for the same price.
Lol same here
You won't be disappointed 😁👍
Lol! I got mine too! Amazon deal of the day. I also ordered the two tone Blk/Gold because I like the watch. However my silver/black has a hard/sticky bezel. The two tone is flawless.
I have this Pro Diver and I love it. I also love Japanese watches like Seiko, Citizen, Orient, Casio, etc. that are between $150 - $700 and many are of a super quality, the movement, design and materials on these watches are of great quality. But I think is ridiculous to even think than a $100 watch can be compared to a $10k one.
The ridiculous thing is that he compared them, and was not able to find a truly significant difference.
And by far not a 8100% value difference.
I own 3 Invicta divers and I can say they are a tough well made watch keep great time ! Brilliant value 👍
To me, never mind the Rolex, I'm saving up for the Invicta Pro Diver. I couldn't care less if it's a homage watch. I just like the look, the decent quality build and it'll fall within my budget. Thanks for the comparison video.
If you have to save up for an Invicta and you are over 16 years old. You got problems. And probably shouldn’t be buying a watch.
@@mrselfdestruct1180 man shut the fuck up. You don't have to dis man
@@mrselfdestruct1180 oh piss off man, not everyone has the luxury of disposable income to spend on "wants" rather than "needs".
@@2911moj bro I’m just sayin, if you gotta save up to buy a 60 dollar watch, why buy a watch? Use your cell phone to tell the time.
@@mrselfdestruct1180 Or maybe you just don't live in the US or Europe? Not all the countries have the same purchasing power.
Poor man's Rolex?...more like a wise man's Rolex 😁... The Invicta is great 👍....
Seriously, imagine paying an extra $10,000 because the date is magnified a little better lol
Most people have families to feed, or a job to maintain. They don't want to spend $10K for a dive watch that they won't use for diving. Wise men buy cheap!
Looks good. True wise man’s Rolex is a Tudor Black Bay 58, an all round great deal. Prestigious but won’t break the bank, and a great watch.
@@TheRealFC A saying that I've stuck with thorough my life is that I'm too poor to buy cheap. Inexpensive would be a better word to use.
@@notoriousene9880 people that waste there money on a rollie really dont know what time it is
I've had two other Pro Divers and recently bought another. I don't like most Invicta models but Pro Divers are a good value for money. Spot on about branding.
I like the branding it's cool
As someone looking at saving over a period of years to get a Sub, wearing a Pro Diver to see how the dimensions of the watch would hold up in day to day use would be very useful. That said the Invicta looks like a very good watch in it's price range.
It is. Just make sure you get Japanese is Swiss made movements and your golden
@@max420thc Thanks for the info, I actually went with the Steel Dive instead, too much Invicta branding compared to the steel dive and the lume was way better for not much more.
Bought an older model of this Pro Diver 7 years ago and it still works fine. Perfect beater watch that looks good and you don't start freaking out if someone brushes up against you.
I actually like the wings on the second hand it reminds me of an old aviation based watch
Me too
Glad I subscribed. You cover all the important details and specs without sounding boring. Keep up the great work. A+
To me it seems like the Invicta Pro Diver is a great value. I do not think you can beat this watch as a value. Comparing this watch to a Rolex is indeed a testimony to the value. I wear it as an every day do anything type watch. TY MH
I have had an Invicta for 3 months. Using a seconds per day checker,and recording everyday,it is .3 seconds per day average. Worn. This is fantastic in any watch. Pressure tested when new and passed 200 meters. I am going to pressure check it soon again.
Yes the lens scratches. Not the watches fault. Mine.
For 80.00 it sets the new standard for me at least.
You can put in a new sapphire crystal for under $20, and it will never scratch again. Done it twice. These are terrific values.
At the end of the day. Its just meant to tell time. Im frugal so I’d go for the invicta.
If you want something that tells the time, get a Casio for 10 bucks. It’s much more accurate and durable.
@@doctorcatnip2551 I wash dishes and label food products, I need something waterproof
@@Tempusverum Casio is waterproof ...
Bang for the buck, I LOVE the pro diver. I got the blue one for Father's day for $72 and its beautiful. At 100x less cost than a Rolex, I wear it to my job where it could easily get broken and I'm not worried. And, I LOVE an exhibition caseback. All mechanical movements I love to see. It has gained about 7 seconds in a month with just regular daily wear. So, for my purposes, and for a first automatic watch, it works great. I'm not trying to impress anyone else. If I did want to, I'd wear my '67 Seamaster chrono.
Exhibition caseback is one place the invicta crushes Rolex ...
Never thought I would say this in a million years but this video has made me seriously contemplate buying an Invicta.
Lots of Rolex owners may well be wearing Invictas come Christmas.
Lotta Invicta owner might be wearing Rolexes come Christmas.
Umm.....No.
Not me, would rather commit suicide.
john strachan “snob alert”!
@@Rfpepe7295 Wrong again. I wear Seikos and G-Shocks as well as the Rolex. Thank you.
You don't have to be an Invicta "fan boy" to like the 8926. I own one and love it, but I don't really care for most of their watches. Most people can't spend 8 grand on a Rolex.
Well why not
@@kevinmontoya7318 well why?
I could spend $8k on a watch, but the reason to do so is completely lost on me. Each to their own, I'd rather have a watch that tells the time and buy another motorcycle for my collection with the change.
@@fiveowaf454 must be nice being rich as fuck.
@@MeTaLISaWeSoMe95 Well I worked hard for every penny, so what is your point? I'm far from rich by most people's standards, but a lot cleverer in how I spend my money and what I pay for the things I do buy.
Really enjoyed watching this review. Would love to own a sub at some point. I currently own the Invicta Pro, I also own Ginault Ocean Rover, both of these models get the most hate on forums. For me that's fine, I enjoy them for what they are....affordable alternatives.
Nothing beats the smoothness of the Seiko Spring drive second hand.
Why mention the Spring Drive of Grand Seiko? Irrelevant to this comparison, IMHO.
So I can have an “extra” 100 m wr and 9 extra hours and a huge servicing commitment or I can have a watch which I can cheaply replace if I need to AND a car🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think anyone that wears a Rolex is going to be driving any $8k cars
@C. N. :-)
@@ryanoliver5669 well 8K is definitely a good down payment on a mid range car. I mean that’s a smidge under half for a brand new Honda Accord or a new Camry. The car itself doesn’t have to cost that much.
I love these comparisons between an $8,000 Rolex and an $80 Invicta. You will notice right away that the Rolex has a smoother crown and there is a gasket. Yep, that's worth about $1,000 right there isn't it.
Lol nice!!
Now you can spend the $7920 that you saved on a G-shock. But don't forget, the retail value of the invicta is $800. You got it for 90% off!
Most of the money is really in _manual_ labour rather than materials (although the materials they use, along with certain patented technology, would be better too).
Most of the Invicta parts were made or assembled by machine, where as most of the Rolex's parts were crafted or detailed by a (highly skilled) human being.
If people didn't value that - and the associacion of Rolex branding - no sane person would EVER buy a Submariner while the Pro Diver exists.
Yup .... I can buy the boat with the other $7900 bucks that I saved not buying the Rolex .....hmmmm opportunity cost me thinks !
Actually. In the thumbnail. The rolex looks like the cheaper watch.
Just purchased my first Invicta pro diver 8927OB 2tone. Purely bought for looks and to start on the watch collecting ladder. Thus far reasonably impressed with it. Price great, quality I’m thinking great, the fact it’s a less than £100 watch and comes with a 3yr warranty, honestly who could go wrong.
Great review. As far as a watch not “feeling” the same, I own dozens of watches expensive and inexpensive, after I wear any of them for a few minutes I barely feel anything. The bottom line for me is do I like the look of the watch, does it look good on my wrist, and most importantly is it precise and accurate, AND a good value? In my experience, Rolexes become highly inaccurate, every one of them I’ve experienced. They need to be serviced often at great cost and for a $6000-$36,000 price point they should at least not lose 2 minutes per day! You are paying for the Swiss Rolex name but seriously, even my 50 year old cheap-ass Timex indiglo still keeps perfect time! A better Swiss value is my Swiss Oris Big Crown Pointer date 80th anniversary bronze case leather strap watch, $1500! Oris was making fine watches before Rolex and this watch has always kept perfect time, unique, and in my humble opinion at least 777 times better than the submariner, oh yeah, and “FEELS” much much better! Ha ha! Again, great review, I like the solid gold submariner much better but again $36,000, worth it?, between the two you reviewed, very, very minor things with the Invicta, get it instead of the Rolex. I agree with you about the over branding in watches as well, but the swirling wings on the second is t that big of a deal since I wouldn’t be staring at that so much while wearing the time piece. I also own the Seiko Presage in brown, love it too but yeah, did they need to write presage on it, not that big of a deal, bigger to me is that it loses about 4 seconds a day! I need to remove the back and re-adjust the regulation. Thanks again for the review, Sir. I think for Invicta, the Invicta Men's I-Force 44mm Stainless Steel and 18k Gold Ion-Plated and Brown/Black Leather Watch (Model: 12823, 15255, 21393) is much better feeling and much better to look at and it is only $52 on Line.
100% recommend putting a nato strap on the Invicta, makes for a great casual watch. Much more comfortable than the metal bracelet it comes with too, I couldn't get mine to fit perfectly.
I'm 14 and I like watches but I'm starting off with this Invicta as my gateway watch into collecting,is it a good start?
I'm probably going to get one to but I don't know wich size to get so what is your wrist size. Wich size did you get. Do you recommend getting a 37mm or a 40mm?
@@pieterjanvanleeuwe6135 I got 40mm
Yes!
Absolutely!
This 29182 model (different variant, same design) as this watch is what got me started on auto watches. Honestly, can't go wrong considering value for money.
I have the same series Submariner but in gold and steel. Received it as an employee bonus back in 1988 or so. I selected it personally as I had always loved the look of that watch, plus I was a James Bond fan since the age of 10. I wore that watch 24/7 until about a year ago when I sent it in to be refurbished. The tritium was flaking off the dial, I had chipped a small piece off the edge of the crystal, the arms were experiencing some sort of degradation and I really wanted to be able to tell time in the dark without having to find my phone. The cost of the upgrades were half the price of the watch, but it is now like new except that the luminescence is only on the arms and bezel pearl, and not the hour markers. Some would say that I ruined the patina of the original, but I use this watch as a tool and not as an investment. I wore this watch while surfing, rock climbing, mountain biking, diving, skiing and everything else. Great watch and not one for the penny-pinchers, but it is worth triple what it cost brand new. The watch this replaced was a Seiko and I loved that one as well. I agree with the opinions stated in this review. I also think that for the price, the Invicta is a total bargain since most people don't care anyway. Wear what makes you happy, even if it's just counting the money you saved. I saved over $100k by not buying the Porsche GT-3 I covet. LOL.
One thing that caught my eye was there is more printed info on the Rolex dial compared to Invicta dial. A detail I did like is how the hour and date window are outlined and pop more. I can't help wonder what the current Rolex compares to the Invicta. But I do appreciate your caparison between the two. Clearly the price tag is the most outstanding difference between them. For $8200. I could buy a good used car or truck and a box of Cuban cigars. Hands down Rolex is the standard for some watch people but addressing the collectors, Invicta makes it affordable to build a collection that has a huge variation of models. Now weather that's a good thing or not it is up to the collector to decide. Thanks for sharing the comparison. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
cnat beat a box of cuban cigars... great comment
A very honest opinion about both watches.
The Invicta is an homage of the Rolex sub so there's no basis for comparison.
However, if you can't afford the original sub, then Invicta is your sure bet. I've got one myself From Amazon.
I purchased the Invicta because I’m on the waitlist with my AD and keep getting pushed back in line.
I love my Invicta Pro Diver Mickey Mouse edition.
I will never compare it to a Rolex, for me, these are two completely different watches
I love my Spongebob limited edition too 💚💛💙
“Whoooooo”
“Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?!!”
Great review. I have a 1675 GMT with a 93150 sub bracelet and a few Invicta Pro Divers. The Invictas are good for scuba diving (in case it gets lost) and when I am nervous about theft (traveling, etc.). That said, my Rolex exudes quality & longevity; my son will inherit it and I hope cherish it. The Invictas, although essentially Rolex copies fulfill a different purpose.
Have had the Invicta pro diver for a year love it. Really really good in person and keeps good time if you wear it all the time. Otherwise power reserve is about 2 days. Really nice weight and feel, definitely worth if if you're looking at it.
Have had my Invicta Pro Diver for a bit over a year and has worn it daily. It has went through hell, banged up, scratched and chipped but it still runs strong with its battle scars. I've actually cracked the edge of the crystal and was a bit concerned about its water resistance but it seems to hold pretty well still.
I have a invicta pro diver in blue and quite honestly for the money its not a bad watch. I do have other more expensive watches but really enjoy the pro diver. Almost as much as I enjoy the time teller videos. I have even gotten watches because of your videos. Keep up the great work Jory.
One of the best UA-camrs. Very clear and honest communication and comprehensive review. This was very enjoyable.
I am looking for a watch or two for my 60th later this year. I would like a SeaGull ST1901 movement watch, probably the Red Star 1963 40mm gooseneck 21 jewel at around £140 but the Invicta Pro Diver looks like a very good contender for under £100. I actually like the second hand and etched logo on the side to show it is not trying to be a 1:1 clone. Nice review and new sub
Thank you for this in-depth review! I got some Invicta, actually I own this very model. I've never worn it. It is sitting inside its original package... After your disamina, I will take my Invicta pro-dive out for a walk. At the moment I'm really inlove with my Glycine combat sub (pre invicta, just to say). I've bought it second hand, but it opened my heart from the first moment I wore it. I own many watches, including Swiss, Russian but mostly Japanese ones, few Chinese ones. I hope one day to save enough to allow myself to buy a Breitling Chromomat or maybe a Tudor Black Bay, these are my goals. The Rolex are far more expensive for my wallet. Hope everyone is good! Cheers to everyone!
I've worn Invicta for years and this is a very fair review.
The whole point of the Pro Divers is that it looks and almost feels like a Rolex, but it isn't. As such it's an attractive and affordable watch for people who don't have dinner guests to impress at their Napa Valley wine club, or don't need that extra 100m of diving depth lol
"I'm not arguing the Invicta is a bad watch, I'm arguing it doesn't feel the same as the Rolex."
For a 7-8 thousand price difference it shouldn't, and I don't expect it to.
Well yeah no shit it’s only 100 dollars lol
@@jukimainecoon3765 that’s what he’s saying bro lol
The basic blueprint for a dive watch makes it a great product. Invicta doesn't skimp much on any part of their design, hence, it has become a perennial best-sellet!
Which model number did you review? I just received one from Amazon but I think mine is 38mm. Seems very small.
I know Invicta get some bad press but They not all that bad considering the price, also it looks good too.
21:07 Jory: So, this isn't going to glow at all.
Me, a pro diver owner: Neither is the Invicta, buddy! Trololol.
The pro diver is always going to be a special watch for me. It's what got me into this hobby. I bought it on happenstance, not even knowing what an automatic watch was. While it has that emotional value for me, let's be real, ya gets what ya pays for.
same.
I think that's cool. If this Invicta got you into the watch game, then welcome. I just don't understand this comparison.
It's very common for homage watches to have deeper chapter rings that taper down to a smaller dial. The crystal also tends to be more set back into the case. Not sure why they do that.
Your comparing a $100 watch to a $10,000 watch. The comparison ends there. The Invicta is a lot of a watch for the money.
I recently picked up one of these on Amazon during a Black Friday sale for $30. I was just looking for an inexpensive analog watch that was all metal. I'm not even close to being a watch aficionado and I had no clue that this was a Rolex look-alike. I feel I definitely got something worth more than I paid for and have no complaints at all. It does exactly what I need it to do - it sits on my wrist, looks good, and keeps decent time.
Invicta pro diver is one of my favorite if not my favorite watch. I own 30ish watches now and pro drivers get tons of wrist time.
The large engraved INVICTA letters on the casing is my least favorite part of this watch, too.
If it's good enough for blancpain.
I don't know if it's true, but I've read that the reason they put it on there had to do with Rolex's lawyers. I think it looks nice.
I bought a Pro Diver in January, and I love it, including the flying wing counterbalance. I've wanted a Subbie since I was a kid, and last December, on my birthday, I realized I was never going to live long enough to afford one.
I would prefer a Rolex to the Invicta, except for the fact that a Pro Diver costs about 1/150th that of a new Submariner, which was a factor in my decision. And of course there's a waiting list for Subbies. That too.
BTW, Seiko movement keeping pretty good time for the money. Last set it 28 days ago today and it is 2:14 slow right now. 90 bucks is hard to beat.
I'm not really a "collector" more of a penniless spectator, but if I ever do start collecting, it will be epic CHEAP watches. That Starking is an excellent example. Also, I have a 38mm Timex Navi-Harbor--man, I LOVE that thing!
Maybe I'm more of a contrarian than a collector;>)
Matt Savage yea that I could do without as well.
Agreed, thought it was a good looking watch up until I saw that.
It doesn't annoy me as much as it once did but I totally agree with you on the logo being unnecessary on there
I just bought a pro diver,how do you take the pins out for band adjustment
Pro tip (possibly) - as an owner of several watches with clasps like this I’ve found that putting a finger between the clasp and your wrist, then pushing laterally - like towards the clasp not pulling straight up - pops it right off really easy.
I love the look of the Rolex, but I would never spend more than 3 figures on a watch.
The Invicta is a much more reasonable alternative.
Yes, it's derivative, but imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
I am 53 years old, I graduated in 1987- my junior year my dad was going to buy a rolex from a dealer he knew he asked me if I would like to get a submariner. He said yes it's costly but it's a good watch- stainless steel it would cost me $750 now mind you now now a stainless steel sub mariner is running $17,000 that is absolutely ridiculous it is the same watch it was 30 years ago! Because it's limited in production and it's popular people are paying astronomical amounts for them above retail... far above retail! I personally have a Breitling Super Avenger with a factory diamond dial... it's my dress watch 48mm. I don't like rolex because I am a bigger guy and at 40mm it's small in my opinion and overnflated in cost. I.E. a Rolex Daytona can cost you 40k plus. Rolex is just a name- it is a good watch and as people have mentioned it does go up in value because people are dumb enough to pay the escalated prices which drives the market. I personally have about a dozen invicta watches between my wife and myself. The nice thing- the invicta watches that I wear I'm not afraid of scratching them, I wear them anywhere because I didn't have to pay $10K like I did for my Breitling! If you can afford one go for it... BUT KNOW THIS- there are so many swiss made fake rolex watches half the people will think it's fake anyway! FACT!
I will never pay 8k just for the name, that's stupid 😒, is my opinion!!!
Jory; I'm actually going to say that this was a decent review. First and foremost I'm a Seiko fan but, I also am an Invicta fan. I have several comments but nothing belligerent.
So that you get the model number correct I'm using lower case. The Invicta is model is 8926ob.
I like the wing on the second ✋ and like you not a fan of the wing below the 12.
I have owned this model and have given it as a gift to friends and family. I've owned 9 variations of the "Seiko" movement Pro Divers and never had issues with any of them. The name etched on the side doesn't bother me. Even an "I" in the Invicta font would have sufficed or even using one of their two logo's. Less is more? What about the lengthy 4-line novel above the 6 on the Submariner? How many watches
well said
I'm sorry could you repeat that
I have a 23 cm wrist...and the top of my wrist can hand a little over 72mm from lug to lug. Maybe the new Shaquille O'Neal watches by Invicta will have a watch that size!!! 😂😂😂
@@Sebbrr hahaha...
I received one as a gift but after 2/3 days I hv to reset it my question is do I hv to wind it up every other day or every 3days or is it the battery please help me I’m impressed with it but that’s my problem with it thanks
A pro diver invicta
Good honest review, definitely helpful, gonna buy myself a few of these Invicta watches
Fair review, I thought. Thanks for making all of these entertaining videos. My two-cents is there is a place for Invicta and there is a place for Rolex. I appreciate that Invicta makes this watch, even though I know it's blatantly unfair as an imitation design and many of Invicta's diverse original designs have a tendency to be... a bit 'out there.' I own the Invicta and will probably never own that Rolex Submariner.
3 general things I have come to notice and/or appreciate about Invicta:
1) They make watches on a large-scale with very high economies of scale to bring down costs. The market for people who won't pay more than $100 for a watch is huge. They are managing to produce good watches with such limitations. The watches they are producing for these masses are pretty good for them. They're water-proof and they can be banged around a little bit and if something happens, they're ultimately at a price point they're replaceable.
2) Cheap watches help us find our style before shelling out a ton of money. I know some argue this as a waste, but I appreciated those early years when my budget was tight that I could start my collection and try many things. It was through this I learned what I liked and what I didn't before I spent more money. These watches, and many others, are like a gateway drug. I developed my personal taste in watches over many years. Present-me does not see things the same way as Past-me. This Invicta allows me to not experience the prestige, attention to detail, or as solid construction of the Rolex. However, it does allow me to come close to experiencing the general style and that is something I appreciate and I'm glad to have in my varied collection.
3) Less of an appreciation and more of a criticism. You still get what you pay for. What gets cheaper with mass production, comes at a loss of quality and quality control. The luxury brands are created with heavy marketing, but that also means they protect that marketing by trying to create perfection. You can't sell something $5,000+ and have it break easily or not ensure that all watches you produce carry the same quality and be able to maintain the value of that brand. I have owned 3 Invicta watches. This version of the diver watch I own had the rotating bezel break within 2 weeks of owning it without heavy usage, improper usage, or being knocked around at all. I suspect the ratcheting part inside was creating too friction and bent itself out of place. Another watch was not an imitation, but a self-designed army style. It was actually a decent built watch in terms of how solid the construction was, but it has some major errors in the attention to detail of the design that I didn't notice until I bought it and wore it. Problems: 1) the hour and minute hands were black with a large lume design in the center. The dial was black. The design of the Lume on both hands was about the same size. I couldn't tell time at a glance. I had to look more carefully for the end of the black hands. 2) It had a rotating sub-dial that pointed to the day of the week. They used a push-button to rotate it. The watch was not a chronograph, but wanted it to have the appearance of one. They problem is it was way too easy to bump that button. The movement broke and is no longer functional, but the earliest problem was this subdial broke and soon after the hour hand wouldn't move either. I believe the button for the subdial was activated during times that could damage the movement if it was adjusted. The movements are often budget range movements from reputable companies
As a buyer... lessons learned, however I expect these types of issues to not come up if someone is designing and developing them with a critical eye. Still, I've enjoyed my Invicta Diver with the now non-rotating bezel.
When I buy my first multi-thousand dollar diver, I will probably get a Omega Seasmaster. I still appreciated the Invicta's and other cheap brands of the world that allowed me to try different styles over time and allowed me to learn my personal interests in style to help in making those decisions.
For now my main diver is still a far more budget friendly Bulova Oceanographer. I like the throwback to the past, I appreciate designs that come from a heritage of American crasftmanship, and I appreciate that it is a watch fewer people wear and allows me to be more unique.
I fully agree with you about the depth of the casing to the dial. I noticed this wearing the Invicta diver. That was my biggest criticism of the Invicta diver personally. They do make the finish of it look better or more interesting, if it is left that large. Beyond the size of that metal wall, It looks cheaply brushed.
Thanks for all of the interesting videos!
I happen to like the wings on the second hand with the little cross on the wings.
how often do you have to wind the watch ? everyday - every other day or week...?
I was very hesitant on buying the invicta, I have bulova's, omega's & grand seiko's. I want a Rolex, however my grand seiko imo is a better watch then a Rolex. But, it isn't a Rolex! -Invicta, I use as a work watch. If I scratch it, I don't worry about it. It's definitely a nice watch for the price, I get a lot of positive comments on it from customers. It is definitely an eye catcher for people who know watches! I like it!
I bought an Invicta last week.....very good quality I would say
Had that invicta a couple of times, like it a lot, gave both to friends that kept telling me how nice it looked, now saving for the Deepsea sea dweller. Good episode Mr Goodman.
I have found that a fine, quality watch typically feels different that cheaper watches. That said, there are some good watches that are a great bargain and I have found that Invicta is one of those. I've owned a standard Invicta Pro Diver, 40mm, quartz watch for seven years. I've never had an issue. It's very comfortable and looks a lot like the Rolex. I have had a number of more expensive, mid range watches like Tissot, Tag, Luminox (not Rolex) and found that one difference is the quality and feel of the band or bracelet (usually a metal bracelet). It's important to have a comfortable, accurate, good looking watch. With Invicta, if you have a problem (loss or damage), it's just under a $100. Even if I could afford it, I would not want to have a $6,000 - $10,000 watch on my wrist. The important thing is to get what you like and enjoy it!
My take on watches is I like to wear the watches I get but I don’t want to have to worry about it getting stolen or scratched or damaged. At even 1000.00 watch i would worry about all those. So to get something that has a respectable albeit basic automatic movement and looks nice that I won’t be afraid to wear and keeps decent time better than a sundial. I could careless the brand as long as it isn’t gaudy or looking like I am trying to FLEX those “HEY LOOK AT ME” vibes. So i took a ‘chance’ and purchased an INVICTA paid around 50.00 for an automatic movement watch. It’s not big or flashy and looks nice on my wrist. Keeps good time, the dial/Bezel fees nice and not too tight not too loose. The lume which most have described as low to medium low was actually very bright and i only held a LED flashlight on it for about a min. It fades fairly quickly. The strap kinda sucks but I replace all mine with NATO bands anyway. I was dreading getting the watch and considered not even opening it and just returning it based on all the hate some of the UA-camrs were giving invicta watches. But I found 95% of what they said not to reflect on my experience. But I am not a high end watch guy, just like i don’t own a Ferrari and don’t own 1000.00 suits or expensive anything. I am a common man who likes decent watches that look good at a decent price. And I think that is more the norm than the ones who buy Rolexes and high end watches. If you are a guy like me the invicta pro diver is a decent watch - hate their bands though - get a nato if you get an invicta
So would you recommend the Invicta over the new Seiko 5 Sports?
Spandan Mehta Yes 💯
Yeah. Invicta Pro Diver sports the time tested, well respected Seiko Nh35A movement. It’s a good movement that is found in Seiko’s that cost more than twice what the pro diver costs. If you’re fine with homage watches, the Invicta is a good watch.
Spandan Mehta
As much as I dislike INVICTA, I would recommend the INVICTA over the new 5KX .
Perfect honest assessment thanks for your enjoyable videos
I'm looking for a bracelet link for my invicta pro diver 3076. Any suggestions 🤔
Considering that the Rolex is 100x more expensive than the Invicta ($100 vs $10,000) brings to mind the quote attributed to Ben Franklin, our first secretary of treasury, "A fool and his money is soon parted! " - So true, and thank you for the great review.
With a Rolex though the money is never truly lost. If you need it back , you can sell it.
I just love my Invicta, my first mechanical watch, and the one that hook me in to this hobby
Same
I watched this with great interest as I have both watches. This video turned me into a subscriber, so, well done!. Yes, the submariner does have a more refined feel to it all around (of course, it does!!!). But none of the annoying issues you found with the Invicta come close to justifying that enormous price difference. Funny thing, I have owned both watches for a number of years and I find that the Invicta, with its less sophisticated movement, to be the more accurate time keeper. One last thing, Those two details which you find annoying, the wings on the tail end of the second hand and the engraved "INVICTA" on the side, I'll bet that both were done to avoid trademark legalities.
And who's the wiser, the one that spends $8k+ on a Rolex and worries that he'll lose it or the theft that just snagged your Invicta...
Great video, liked everything in it. I'm not an Invicta fan, but I do appreciate their homage watches.
I bought a $75 Invicta pro diver which I can use anywhere, went to beach with it, went to the water with it, didn't mind the sand or small rocks getting all over the watch, because it was cheap.
On the other hand, I haven't seen a person with a Rolex or Omega doing the same, they usually use these high quality watches for dinner, meetings, etc. It has become a valuable "show off" watch, and there is nothing wrong with that.
It would be nice to see a rolex submariner being used for what it was built for: a diver watch, but no one will do that due to its high cost.
So yeah, that's why I appreciate the Invicta pro diver (not the other monstrosities) it has the looks and is built to resist beach/ocean activities without the worry of losing an expensive item.
I own both the Invicta Grand Diver and a 2005 two tone Rolex Submariner. I like both watches! But, the Submariner has the edge as said in the video. I paid $4,300 for my Submariner. It is now valued at $13,000. I bought 10 Rolex in three years. Everyone I sold at more than twice the price I paid for it!! Great investment!!!
Yeah, a Rolex is an investment in my eyes and not to be worn. You'll get robbed fast if you wear one.
An Invicta, looks good, is built well, sturdy and cheap. If someone wants to rob me for my $100 watch, go right ahead friend.
I wear my Invicta everyday without concern.
For the money it's great. Got mine for about $65 on Amazon. Good, sturdy waterproof. What more can you ask for.
Well, I can ask for a genuine Swiss chronometer on my wrist. I don't care about the certificate, but I like knowing the watch will still be dead-nuts accurate 30 years from now!
@@TheCometHunter riiiiight
Another quality vid Jory, this is why your T3 channel is quickly climbing towards 100k subscribers!
So how far up in price range do you have to go to find something approaching the the fit and finish of the Rolex?