I was born and raised in Southampton. My Grandma told me so many families lost a relative on Titanic most serving seamen. There is a beautiful memorial dedicated to the Titanic in a park in Southampton.
YES. To the memory of the engineers, who fought long and hard to kerp her going, til the very end!! Spent many visits to that memorial. On my way to Belfast soon to visit the museum there. And capture the essence of the legacy where she was created.
This was filmed in the mid 1980’s, if you want to hear even more survivors tales there is a video on this channel of a dozen or better Titanic survivors including 2nd officer C.H. Lightoller himself that was recorded in the late 1940’s.
My first husband, his British parents and my daughter and grandchildren all carry the surname, STEAD. When the wreck was discovered and the movie came out, I researched William Stead and discovered he was a distant relative and ancestor. Most notable work as a journalist was helping to expose the sex trafficking of underaged children and joined efforts with the Salvation Army to outlaw the practice, this is when minimum legal age of consent was introduced. I am proud that my family line is connected to him in my descendants.
What is really amazing is how many different versions of not only the happenings of April 14th-15th, but of the Titanic herself there are depending on who is recalling the ship and the goings-on of her brief time at sea. A good example is at the 30 minute mark where a voice actor narrating a version of events, no doubt transcribed from a survivor’s testimony, talks about the two Marconi wireless operators working “below decks” when we now know for certain with access to the ships plans and such that the Marconi room was on the boat deck inside a small, shack-like structure.
where in WV are ya? I'm in Cameron he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
When General Patton was confronted by the German Siegfried Line, a Stars and Stripes reporter asked him if he thought he could defeat this impregnable defensive line. He answered: "The Siegfried Line is just one more of mankind's monuments of stupidity. Anything made by man, can be unmade." What true words he spoke. Perhaps those in the media back then, should have thought of that when they proclaimed the Titanic to be unsinkable
I believe Capt.Smith could have saved most if not ALL on board Titanic. It is an undisputed fact that a stationary ships light could be seen on the horizon- most probably the Californian. Had Capt. Smith ordered full speed ASTERN and headed for that light it would have IMPEDED the inflow of water into the ship by creating a suction effect and after approx 1 hrs steaming at 10 knots he would be within touching distance of the said ship. The ships boats would have been used to trans ship everyone aboard.
But this Edward guy sunk an unsinkable ship. What is so amazing about that? However the captain of the California sailed successfully through that ice field. Simply by making a very good decision to anchor the night and continue in sunlight the next morning. Thats amazing for me.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 stockless anchor, drag sail, sheet anchor, drift anchor, sea anchor, mushroom anchor, grappling iron, mud hook... Etc. Not all these anchors use 13000ft chains
@@luqmaandavids794 Then the grappling iron & the mud hook must have been interesting to observe. Do you know what a mushroom anchor is used for? Not on a medium sized freighter, that is for sure. They are normally used on dinghies. A sea anchor, or drift anchor, is used in heavy weather to stabilise a vessel. A stockless anchor is intended to lie flat on the sea bed, therefore needing 13,000 feet of cable. A drag sail or sea anchor is used as explained above. Sorry. Nice try, but no cigar.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
@@luqmaandavids794 I hope you’re amazed by how the Carpathia successfully navigated the ice fields too. They had to dodge numerous icebergs in order to reach the Titanic’s sinking location and fortunately didn’t hit any.
Imagine if our billionaire bankers, tech giants, politicians and celebs were on a disaster like this? I have mixed feelings quite honestly. I can tell you this tho: I don’t think any of these billionaire men would, “die like gentlemen.”
Sadly, I believe you are correct. And not just the wealthy. Today's snowflakes lack any sense of honor and courage. Hard to believe today's obedience mask wearing cowards could muster up the grit to endure any hardship much less a ship sinking in the North Atlantic.
The crop of billionaires alive today don't know what chivalry is, so I'm reasonably certain they'd not sacrifice a seat on a lifeboat to save another life.
I feel bad for everyone that night but even especially for the captain. He must have felt horrible around everybody them final moments, and yet so desperate. Because he's in charge of the ship and responsible for all on board. I just couldn't imagine how awful that would be. He done all he could.
Imagine a lifetime sailing the seas culminated in the sinking of the Titanic? There's nothing romantic about freezing and drowning to death in the North Atlantic.
It's amazing to me how many illustrations show smoke coming out of the 4th funnel when it was not connected to a furnace but was used to provide oxygen/air to the boiler room.
I work offshore, on an oil field work boat. There’s no way you could see a ship or object 19 miles away. The curvature of the earth hides objects at that distance. In my experience the farthest an object can be and still be seen with the naked eye is around 12 miles or less. Much less usually. The Californian was more than likely less than 10 miles away.
there was an ice field between the CA and TITANIC... the captain had gone to bed for the night for danger of hitting ice. Radio operator hung up his set... it doesn't matter how close they were that was never going to happen. officer on the watch saw the damn distress flairs and thought they were having a damned party. it is what it is.
@@mitchwood6609 correct. It was still up to captain lord to go to their aid when he was told multiple times a ship was firing white rockets at sea, at night, rockets with stars, which by law at the time, if seen at sea, should be considered a signal of distress. Lord chose not to act, and certainly cost more lives. Obviously he couldn’t save them all, but definitely could have saved more. Lord was a very capable captain, and he chose not to act. All he had to do was wake up Evans, his radio operator, and have him see what was going on. He was told several times about the rockets, and he simply went back to sleep. Meanwhile, captain Rostron of the carpathia, who was over 50 miles away (4 hours) turned his ship around immediately after hearing the Titanic needed assistance
@@shotty2164 studies have been done on this and this has been proven false. his boilers were completely shut down and he would have had to start them, build steam, and navigate the ice field to the titanic. everyone had already froze to death. did he do the wrong thing though? probably. well more like obviously. everyone knows they should have tried or atleast tried to connect with radio
@@mitchwood6609 every book I’ve ever read say he kept his steam up which is how he was able to immediately get under way when the sun came up, and he was on the scene fairly quickly while the carpathia was still there. I dont know what “studies” you’re talking about, but I’ve read at least 10 books on titanic and the two inquiries conducted in New York and England after the sinking and I’ve always read the Lords orders were to “keep steam up so we can get underway as soon as the sun rises” which is exactly what they did when his wireless operator got up and was told by another ship that the titanic sunk, and sent her coordinates to the Californian
@@shotty2164 appreciate that i might be wrong. i'm tired and all my reading on this was years ago. i thought i had read that somewhere but i might be getting my stories mixed up (different accident maybe who knows) i sent you a link to a page that has some interesting info. have a good one my friend.
In typical Titanic tradition, there are some who claim to have dug up some dirt about the Captain, claiming his safety record at sea is bad. With several accidents and loss of crew. Remember, he was captain on the Olympic when it collided with HMS Hawke, in the solent. White Star lost the insurance claim, and Capt Smith retired; but was brought out of retirement , for the Titanic job.
Probably wanted to retire with a positive bang to erase the reputation damage related to Titanic’s sister ship. He was known to be very popular with high society… having him there might have encouraged more ticket sales. Why full steam ahead? I’m guessing he wanted to be in good graces of White Star, wanted to reach NY in record time, and besides, a big iceberg would be seen fast and dodged, small icebergs could be blown through because the ship was unsinkable. Yup. Primary goal: Pull into NY early and continue to dazzle those onboard. I almost wish the statues would have been of Carpathia’s captain instead. Even the Californian’s captain deserved an apology plaque or something for what he went through in the aftermath
Nonsense. Olympic was in the Solent at the time of the collision, in the charge of a Solent Pilot. The subsequent court case exonerated Smith of any blame. Smith did not retire, and therefore was not brought out of retitrement. You really shouldn't make things up. What accidents & loss of crew, by the way.
@@YaYa-ke1zr 'Probably wanted to retire with a positive bang.' Except his reputation had not been blemished, because Olympic had been in the charge of a Solent pilot at the time of the collision. There was no possibility of a record time, as the Olympics were four to five knots slower than the Mauretanias.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 “The Royal Navy blamed Olympic for the collision, claiming at an inquiry that the liner’s abrupt turn, combined with her massive displacement, created a situation that pulled Hawke into her side. White Star countered that their vessel was blameless, since Olympic was under the direct control of a harbor pilot, not her highly experienced master-Capt. Edward J. Smith-at the time of the accident. Hawke and her captain were later found to be not at fault.” Financially, that collision damn near ruined White Star, and the captains reputation, at White Star, within White Star, did in fact suffer. Their PR was extraordinary for a company at this period of time. Other than JP’s cash, the reputation and marketing aspects were well known. That’s what White Star was good at. These things were all inputs into why he was named Captain of the Titanic. Also, there are indications from his daughter that his career was in fact planned to be over before taking command of the Titanic. Whether there were official retirement papers somewhere is moot point, but if his family says he was retired, he was retired. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Take care
This praise for Capt Smith baffles me. In the end he was reckless. He ignored ice warnings and sped up the Titanic. His irresponsibility killed a lot of people. Praising Capt Smith is kind of like praising that truck driver of an 18 wheeler who ignores safety and road conditions in an ice storm who kills himself and a couple of other people.
Well no because we give him praise because we are going off fact not the movie. Smith was an irresponsible captain and titanic was never speeded up at all. A captain can not act upon ice warnings when they are days away from them even 1 day you can’t act upon them. By the time your ship reaches that point the ice would have drifted. All captain smith could do was steer more south which he did. 2) titanic wasn’t a cruise ship she was an ocean liner she was the airplane of her day. These people wanted to get somewhere the ship could be either early or on time but she could never be late. It was standard practice to run a ship at a service speed if the night was clear which it was. 3) titanic wasn’t even going full speed. She still had 5 of her boilers unlit. Regardless of what the movie says happened it didn’t. Ismay never ordered captain smith to increase speed. Hwoever both men spoke about a speed test on April 15 this is the conversation what took place with smith and Ismay sadly it was taken out of context. 4) the most vital ice warning the only one smith could act upon was never delivered to the bridge. The only ice warning any captain could have acted upon wasn’t even delivered. Testimony from the 2nd office said if that warning had been delivered he would have slowed the ship and alerted smith. Something smith made very clear for him to do if there was a slightest change. He later goes in to say he had every faith smith would have stoped the ship and waited till morning to navigate the ice. Something smith was known to do a number of times with WSL ships including titanic sister ship the Olympic. Captain smith wasn’t a reckless man. He ran his ship very well and very safely. Perhaps if you did more research instead of your movie facts you’d know. Captain smith did everything he could that night he saved as many as he could. He even tried calling boats back. Not to mention even before he knew titanic was going to sink he ordered lifeboats to he set up and swung despite not thinking the damage was serious. That action alone saved nearly 40 minutes to an hour of prep time. He was a man with great pride in his ship but a man with common sense and a man who knew the sea as best as you could. He is a man who did all he could
He didn't speed up Titanic. He also didn't ignore the ice warnings completely. He actually was so concerned that he charted a new course that took the ship further south adding time to the journey.
Well, I don't know if Capt.Smith was the culprit or not but the manager, I can't remember his name, who saved himself you know, that guy is the one to blame for he bought cheap material for the structure of the ship,the budget was diminished,coal was scarce due to labor strikes, pressure from investors, on top of it all, the ship went from place to place before its final journey, with a fire inside that was the real cause of the sinking of the Titanic since the steel became weaker and weaker being of the cheapest steel that when the iceberg came in contact with that weak steel, it was like cutting paper, said those who know better. There were some other facts that made the Titanic sank but what I think is,recapturing the theme of your comment, did Capt.Smith know about this? Did he have some authority to interfere in the manager's decisions? We talk too much about Capt.Smith but almost nothing about the one who built the ship and only he is responsible for the disaster of the Titanic.
@@fiachramaccana280He sunk the ship? No, he was resting while other crew were on night watch after having morning and evening rest. He was awoken once they had failed to dodge the iceberg and continued at 21-22 knots.
@@timothythespider5036 yeah you don't really seem to understand how ships work. A captain sets the course and makes all the major decisions. The ship was where it was because the captain wanted it there. His officers were following his orders. He doesn't have to be on the bridge all the time Thats how being captain works.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
He was no hero. In my opinion he was reckless, how he took a ship on it's maiden voyage with excessive speed. Knowing there were no binoculars available in the crow's nest that night. Plus he has been warned about ice bergs on his route. He knew very well during that period of the year, there were going to be icebergs on that particular route, yet he took no precautions. He was entirely responsible for all the lives that were lost.
Smith did not ignore iceberg warnings. He altered the ship's course to a more southernly route in an attempt to avoid the ice. Even though it may seem wrong today, not slowing down,even in the presence of ice, was considered standard practice for the time. Several other captains testified at the subsequent enquiries that they would have done the same thing in Captain Smith's position. We are looking at things through 21st century eyes so a lot of what happened then seems ridiculous today, but standards and practices were very different back then.
@robertmcalpine488 One of the most frustrating things for me is to read comments by people who do not understand an event in the context of the times. One has to grasp the mores, thoughts, level of knowledge, and culture of the day.
A great sea captain and a great career - shame it ended at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. He ignored warnings and sailed full steam into an ice field. Bad move
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
I heard the other ship thought the rockets were just for fun and the captain said its the Titanic they are just having fun or something to that effect.
As often is the case many of the photos, even some labeled as Titanic, are actually Olympic, because the promenade deck on Olympic was open whereas on the Titanic it wasn't. Easy to spot the difference.
Yeah, especially the grand staircase photos because no one ever actually got to take any pictures of the Titanic’s grand staircase which people said actually had a mirror instead of clock.
My cousin's great great uncle was Cpt Edward J Smith, It had always been a great shame on the family, with my cousins great great grandad, Edwards brother calling him a "Bloody Fool", RIP Edward.
GOT THAT RIGHT! "The biggest question of all is whether Rush was too cavalier about the experimental vessel, which was never certified by a regulatory body and had raised safety concerns. "I'm struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, where the captain was repeatedly warned about ice ahead of his ship, and yet he steamed full speed ahead into an ice field on a moonless night, " director James Cameron told ABC News. And so many people died as a result."
The ship should of been named the RMS Fuster Cluck! Good clusters happen all the time, but great clusters take planning and organization! This is one of the great clusters, and a great one keeps giving!
Looking at the percentages, the crew made up the largest of the 4 distinct groups of those aboard Titanic, and they also lost the most amongst their ranks…both by total number and by proportional percentage. There can be no doubt that the vast majority of her crew followed Capt. Smith’s last orders to the tee and were, indeed, British. One need only look at some disasters of ships belonging to and crewed by members of nations of less moral character and devotion to duty to see how inspirational the actions of Titanic’s crew were. A particularly bad example would be the MV Oceanos which sank in 1991. The vast majority of the Greek crew filled the first lifeboats to leave the ship, leaving only passengers with a knowledge of the sea and a skeleton crew of a few musicians, cooks and engineers to oversee the evacuation, not a ranking officer to be found. The captain even phoned from the shore….yes, from dry land….to “check on the status” of the evacuation after finally making a coward’s retreat in an early lifeboat in spite of being stopped and forcefully kept aboard at least once before his escape. By the grace of god nobody died in that sinking, largely a result of technology and requirements that came from lessons learned from Titanic’s sinking almost 70 years before. However even with no lives lost the actions of the captain and crew cannot be overlooked as had there not been brave souls to take their place in getting people off the ship, nearly 70% of the passengers would have wound up in the water with nothing but a life jacket at best, and being dragged down within the ship at worst. The crew of Oceanos were most definitely NOT “Being British”.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
No he wasn't he did everything right and even other captains said they would've done the exact same thing he did as it was standard practice at that time Smith did everything he was expected to do as a captain and couldn't do anything more a lot of the 705 survivors owe their lives to Smith
FYI the captain of the Titanic made 3.5 million dollars a year in todays dollars with a Stellar Career that included stinits in wars and commendations from military and merchant navys there is more to him than meets the eyes and the true story of the disaster is much more complex than 2 second soundbytes
On Wednesday 18 May 1927 in Bath Michigan there was a massacre of 38 children and 6 asults. The disaster was worse than Sandy Hook. People back then are tougher than we are today.
Good God ! They actually created a statue to this man. He was the main reason for the disaster which killed hundreds of passengers. Only the pompous teflon English would do such a thing. The E.J. stood for EJit.
Was he? He did nothing wrong that night; in fact, he did what any captain would do. The weather was perfect, and the ship had yet to run into ice. He told his officers that if anything changes then the ship should slow down. What else should he have done?
That was never said by smith , it was British government and English newspapers released that nonsense propaganda,before carpatia even made it into Newyork with the survivors surviving officers and smiths friends said he would never come out with such a ridiculous statement when on board all his ships were Americans and other high society around Europe were on board.
smith may have been liked by the rich but he was no hero, he failed his ship, his crew, and his passengers their deaths was his responsibility, he was warned about the ice dangers but steamed on recklessly at full speed , even if under pressure from his boss his command was the final say.
Titanic wasn't at full speed, and there is no actual evidence that any pressure was put on him by Ismay. Actually, he had altered to a more southerly course. Don't let facts disturb your convictions, however.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
01:50 I hope people are aware that that footage is not of Titanic, it's her sister ship Olympic. Hence the jumping white out marks on the boats covering NEW YORK. There is no actual video footage of Titanic 😔 Just letting you know 👌
plenty of eye witnesses also stated this during the hearings. it's fact. the only thing we dont know for certain is what song was the last one lol. but they narrowed it down. to a few. the movie may have gotten that accurate too
The story of the Titanic has touched many people. Such a great ship and it sinks on its maiden voyage is beyond imaginable. But lets be honest here as to why it did sink? It was due to greed and the wanting of bragging rights to tell the world how fast it was and how short a time it took for it to do the crossing. Not sure the captain was even qualified back then just because he let his employer tell him how to run the ship and not himself looking after his passenger and crew. The times where different back then yes and the way things where done completely different. But the same as in being responsible that has not changed one bit.
The Olympics were four knots slower than the Mauretanias, therefore speed was never a relevant factor. In fact, five boilers were never connected. Smith had been a Master Mariner since 1887, and there is no actual evidence that he allowed anyone to dictate his handling of the ship. If you want to be honest, you need to proceed on the basis of known facts, not your imagination.
@Lappillainenas if you could do any better with you everyone would've died he did everything a captain could do in that situation including laying down his life and saved hundreds of lives
@@dovetonsturdee7033 I apologize if you felt insulted but that’s not the objective. I meant where have you been that you did not know or heard that titanic was claimed to be unsinkable
Smith was 100% inadequate to Captain that ship. Bruce James Ismay should never have let her sail. He knew there was a fire in the engine room. It raged on and on. He gave the command full steam ahead through 'Berg' waters!! (Smith gave the command). At least he went down with her, unlike the shameful, selfish, survivor, Bruce James Ismay, who jumped aboard a lifeboat: in front of others. He survived of course. Ashamedly so!
I think you mean Bruce Ismay. And no, he didn't jump on a lifeboat in front of others. He was OFFERED a seat on a lifeboat that was about to be lowered, as were other men who were standing around. Should he have accepted? That's a debate I think people can have. But to say he jumped in like a coward is wrong. He saved women and children by assisting them onto boats. One survivor credits him for saving her life saying she was reluctant and he physically picked her up and tossed her towards the loading area. Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't have gone down with the ship, but there is a huge difference between helping many passengers and then taking a seat with other men after an offer...and just plowing past people to jump into a lifeboat while others around aren't allowed on while not helping a soul. As for the fire, you would be surprised how common fires were on ships like that. It doesn't always equate to detrimental damage. Hell, cruise ships have fires and just go about like nothing is happening even today.
@@lynnkayee1015 Pernicketty responses. It's no excuse for the design fault of the bulkheads. And BRUCE JAMES ISMAY's authorisation of millions of )Grade 3 instead of grade 4 ) iron rivets, instead of steel ones, just so that she was not further postponed (had already been for one month). GREED ran that ship, and greed killed 1500 people ! Greed remains to this day! And 5 people fried recently in the site where the liner lies. The lifeboat Ismay was on sailed only half full.
@@joysynmonds9082 Ismay had no involvement in the design of the ship. He was a businessman, not a naval architect. Harland & Wolff placed a tender for each ship. Once accepted, White Star left them to proceed with construction. The bulkheads were higher than Board of Trade requirements demanded. The fact is that Titanic sank because she had been subjected to events far beyond anything contemplated. Iron rivets? The same ones used to construct Olympic, which had an illustrious 23 year career? Those rivets? Fire in the engine room? Do you mean the one in a bunker? A smouldering fire detected in Southampton during the daily bunker inspections required by IMM regulations? The one extinguished at least a day before the collision, after damaging nothing more than paintwork inside the bunker? Aside from the fact that the decision to sail was not Ismay's, do try to think about this :- If Titanic was unseaworthy, why would Smith (a Master Mariner since 1887 & Senior White Star captain since 1904) have decided to sail? Moreover, would his officers, and in particular Joseph Bell, his chief engineer, have gone along with the thought that potential mass suicide was a good idea?
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
Bravely spoken and yet in your ignorance your eyes are blinded. Your heart is deceived by fallacies and fables, your traditions and culture surely cloud your vision. The living know that they will die and the dead know nothing. So whilst you are living, seek the truth and know that you will truly die. 1Peter1:24 Because " All flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, and the flower falls away, 25 But the word of the LORD endures forever." (LORD from Tetragrammaton YHWH)
@alexanderrigby6917 well if you're gonna play that game even jesus's resurrection was a type of reincarnation but back into his original body before he was crucified, resurrection, reincarnation, and reanimation are all the same in sanatan dharma aka Hinduism.
The ship at the opening is NOT the Titanic... "Be British" a MYTH... By Speeding through ice while others have stopped for the night? Gimme a break...🤭That's an insult British Mariners
The ship is Olympic. There is less than a minute of known newsreel footage of Titanic. The only ship to stop was Californian, because of shhet ice not icebergs. Titanic was not at full speed. Five boilers were not connected.
I wish you could block channels on youtube 99% of them are awesome but the ones who transfer over from legacy cable channels. bring their ad corruption with them. you can tell as the videos are more advertising than content. stick with the average person channels they are as good if not better and respect you enough to see you as a subscriber not a paycheck
And the funny thing is they would have done a far worse job as captain and he doesn't even have blame here as he wasn't driving it when this happened and he did everything he could to save everyone
In reality, he was irresponsible and a disgrace for what he did!…….no way a hero!…..today he would have been prosecuted for wreck less behaviour and manslaughter!…..classic case of putting corporate greed above safety!
Smith can’t be held at fault for the loss of his ship. Sailing at 22 kts in a potential ice field was standard practice in the day. It sounds ludicrous today with hindsight, but that’s what they did. However, multiple witnesses reported later that Smith’s conduct once he grasped the enormity of his predicament was beneath contempt.
Didn't he belong to the Jesuit church ? A very strange branch of the Catholic Church. The career of people associated with the Jesuit church is puzzling to me. For example, Joseph Stalin graduated from a Jesuit school. In our history, many people associated with the Jesuit church have caused great disasters against people. There are so many examples that it is worth asking yourself what and who is the Jesuit organization ? Compared to them, Freemasonry is child's play.
So the Titanic captain was a Jesuit? I had no idea, but that is very interesting- and significant to this whole event. Yes, the Jesuits have quite an ignoble history, indeed.
@@warrenlewis3977 No doubt Jesuits are brilliant educators/individuals. It is not easy to become a Jesuit after all, as they only take the brightest. Many have been the "movers and shakers" of this world. However, if one looks into the "fruit of their labors" throughout history, one has to wonder about the conspiracies.
Captain smith did desert his ship though. What you see in the movie didn’t happen in real life. Both smith and Andrews were seen by countless witnesses jumping over the ports side bridge wing. Andrews said to smith “she won’t last much longer” smith replied “no” andrews then said “we’ve done all we can” smith replied with a “hmm” Both men were then observed jumping over the bridge wing just before the bridge was flooded. The last eye witness of both men was in the water. Smith and Andrews swam to an upside down lifeboat and ask could they board they was denied. Smith then handed over a baby to the boat and asked them to take the child at least which they did. Both men swam away from titanic and that was the last time they was seen. 5 minutes after this titanic would break in half and sink
@@ryanhelton1865 yes I heard about the baby but no one in the water or the up turned boat can recall captain smith handing a baby over to them he stayed on the ship as long as he could and yes he was going through an lce field at at 22 and a 1/2 knots which was reckless but he still want down with his ship his body was never recovered
@@user-gv5bs3os5i he didn’t go down with the ship though. We have a number of eye witness statement who all claim both smith and Andrew jumped off the bridge wing. And then another witness statement by someone from a bot saying they was seen in the water with a baby. And the ship being at 22 knots was not reckless or was standard practice and still is today. A captain can not act upon ice warning which are over 12 hours away from their location because it’s impossible to do so. That night the captain was completely unaware they was travelling in an ice field because a very vital message was never delivered to the bridge. If that had been delivered to the bridge which was was the only ice warning a captain could take action on the ship would have been slowed by the second officer and more than likely smith would have stoped completely something he was known to do a lot on previous white star ships it’s how he became known as a safe captain. The amount of people I see as a cruise ship bridge officer who constantly tell me smith was dangerous going at the speed when they have no idea how a ship runs or operates When the weather is clear and calm and you can see far out there is no need to slow or stop a ship. And smith never knew he was in an ice field neither did any of the bridge crew and how could they when the wireless operators failed to deliver the message to tell them they was ? What you see in the film is far from the truth. Cameron did an awful job at retelling the story out of the whole thing there are only around 10-15 things what are actually factually correct
Too slow moving, too much fluff and word salads for me, get to the meat of the matter from the get go. Definitely not the best biography, totally disjointed 😮
I don't disagree with a statue of Captain Smith that is if you can call him a captain but they should have put a big sign up that said I'm the biggest dumbass that ever lived I had several ice warnings that day but did not act on none of it I let the ship's steam foll ahead knowing there were large iceberg in the area didn't even slow it down any I know the night was moonless what have I heart trouble seeing an iceberg until I was almost on top of it the sea was calm no breaking water to base and he was responsible for the death of 1500 people as were the owners we're not putting enough lifeboats on the Titanic the smart play Captain Smith could have done was stop the ship for the night for safety him and Stockton rush we're similar disregarded rules and safety
@@JohnWest-zq5gs I put most of the blame on him too, but he seems to have been a more respectable man than yourself nonetheless. Granted, from what little I can see of your attitude.
Vu qu'il est derrière elle a besoin d'un psychiatre vraiment aller à la le pipi le popo Pipo pipi pipi popo😅🎩🛀⚓🌫️ qui rajoute sur le sur l'interview ça veut dire parce que moi je les aime vraiment les hommes qui sont morts dans le Titanic je sais que c'est quelqu'un c'est pas n'importe qui donc ça va mon cœur j'aimerais bien voulu avoir un épi comme ça tu dis vraiment tu vois mais même si un siècle en arrière et tout le monde
They're post nominal letters, the RD is for Decoration for Officers of the Royal Naval Reserve (Reserve Decoration), and the RNR is Royal Naval Reserve
I was born and raised in Southampton. My Grandma told me so many families lost a relative on Titanic most serving seamen. There is a beautiful memorial dedicated to the Titanic in a park in Southampton.
YES. To the memory of the engineers, who fought long and hard to kerp her going, til the very end!! Spent many visits to that memorial.
On my way to Belfast soon to visit the museum there.
And capture the essence of the legacy where she was created.
Incredible documentary, seeing live eyewitness testimonies from the people who were there, more than 100 years ago.
This was filmed in the mid 1980’s, if you want to hear even more survivors tales there is a video on this channel of a dozen or better Titanic survivors including 2nd officer C.H. Lightoller himself that was recorded in the late 1940’s.
@@J.R.in_WV❤q
My first husband, his British parents and my daughter and grandchildren all carry the surname, STEAD.
When the wreck was discovered and the movie came out, I researched William Stead and discovered he was a distant relative and ancestor.
Most notable work as a journalist was helping to expose the sex trafficking of underaged children and joined efforts with the Salvation Army to outlaw the practice, this is when minimum legal age of consent was introduced.
I am proud that my family line is connected to him in my descendants.
BBC & British - made documentaries have aways been done with "top-notch" quality. Thank You for uploading.
It’s July 2023 and here I am in the middle of my Titanic rabbit hole obsession. It all started 2 weeks ago when the sub imploded.
What is really amazing is how many different versions of not only the happenings of April 14th-15th, but of the Titanic herself there are depending on who is recalling the ship and the goings-on of her brief time at sea. A good example is at the 30 minute mark where a voice actor narrating a version of events, no doubt transcribed from a survivor’s testimony, talks about the two Marconi wireless operators working “below decks” when we now know for certain with access to the ships plans and such that the Marconi room was on the boat deck inside a small, shack-like structure.
where in WV are ya? I'm in Cameron
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
Today is April 14th so tonight is truly "A Night to Remember"
RIP good Captain
When General Patton was confronted by the German Siegfried Line, a Stars and Stripes reporter asked him if he thought he could defeat this impregnable defensive line. He answered: "The Siegfried Line is just one more of mankind's monuments of stupidity. Anything made by man, can be unmade." What true words he spoke. Perhaps those in the media back then, should have thought of that when they proclaimed the Titanic to be unsinkable
I believe Capt.Smith could have saved most if not ALL on board Titanic. It is an undisputed fact that a stationary ships light could be seen on the horizon- most probably the Californian. Had Capt. Smith ordered full speed ASTERN and headed for that light it would have IMPEDED the inflow of water into the ship by creating a suction effect and after approx 1 hrs steaming at 10 knots he would be within touching distance of the said ship. The ships boats would have been used to trans ship everyone aboard.
But this Edward guy sunk an unsinkable ship. What is so amazing about that? However the captain of the California sailed successfully through that ice field. Simply by making a very good decision to anchor the night and continue in sunlight the next morning. Thats amazing for me.
He didn't anchor, unless his anchor cables were 13,000 feet long. He stopped because of sheet ice, which Titanic did not encounter.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 stockless anchor, drag sail, sheet anchor, drift anchor, sea anchor, mushroom anchor, grappling iron, mud hook... Etc. Not all these anchors use 13000ft chains
@@luqmaandavids794 Then the grappling iron & the mud hook must have been interesting to observe. Do you know what a mushroom anchor is used for? Not on a medium sized freighter, that is for sure. They are normally used on dinghies. A sea anchor, or drift anchor, is used in heavy weather to stabilise a vessel. A stockless anchor is intended to lie flat on the sea bed, therefore needing 13,000 feet of cable.
A drag sail or sea anchor is used as explained above.
Sorry. Nice try, but no cigar.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
@@luqmaandavids794 I hope you’re amazed by how the Carpathia successfully navigated the ice fields too. They had to dodge numerous icebergs in order to reach the Titanic’s sinking location and fortunately didn’t hit any.
Imagine if our billionaire bankers, tech giants, politicians and celebs were on a disaster like this? I have mixed feelings quite honestly. I can tell you this tho: I don’t think any of these billionaire men would, “die like gentlemen.”
Sadly, I believe you are correct. And not just the wealthy. Today's snowflakes lack any sense of honor and courage. Hard to believe today's obedience mask wearing cowards could muster up the grit to endure any hardship much less a ship sinking in the North Atlantic.
@@franksaxton3583 Yes, I hear you.
The crop of billionaires alive today don't know what chivalry is, so I'm reasonably certain they'd not sacrifice a seat on a lifeboat to save another life.
It’s 2023. There would be massive debates and brawls on deck over what constitutes a woman and people shouting “how dare you assume my gender!”
@@Sammy_Francis LOL. True
How very sad...a gentle rendition of Nearer my God.
He should have slowed down. If he could relive that moment, that's what he would do.
Or order extra lookouts to keep an extra careful watch for icebergs in their path like Rostron did.
I feel bad for everyone that night but even especially for the captain. He must have felt horrible around everybody them final moments, and yet so desperate. Because he's in charge of the ship and responsible for all on board. I just couldn't imagine how awful that would be. He done all he could.
It sank because of his bad decision. He should have shut all engines down until daybreak when he got the first iceberg warning.
He should have slowed way way down. If not stopped completely until daylight.
He caused it
@@ronaldschultenover8137 no he didn't
@@Ken_Frazer-619 yeah lets blame the iceberg.... bad bad iceberg
Imagine a lifetime sailing the seas culminated in the sinking of the Titanic? There's nothing romantic about freezing and drowning to death in the North Atlantic.
It's amazing to me how many illustrations show smoke coming out of the 4th funnel when it was not connected to a furnace but was used to provide oxygen/air to the boiler room.
The 4th funnel vented the galley and the smoking room fire place, so there would have been some smoke.
My grandmother best friend died on that crazy ship
You should tell the Titanic Historical Society
I work offshore, on an oil field work boat. There’s no way you could see a ship or object 19 miles away. The curvature of the earth hides objects at that distance. In my experience the farthest an object can be and still be seen with the naked eye is around 12 miles or less. Much less usually. The Californian was more than likely less than 10 miles away.
there was an ice field between the CA and TITANIC... the captain had gone to bed for the night for danger of hitting ice. Radio operator hung up his set... it doesn't matter how close they were that was never going to happen.
officer on the watch saw the damn distress flairs and thought they were having a damned party. it is what it is.
@@mitchwood6609 correct. It was still up to captain lord to go to their aid when he was told multiple times a ship was firing white rockets at sea, at night, rockets with stars, which by law at the time, if seen at sea, should be considered a signal of distress. Lord chose not to act, and certainly cost more lives. Obviously he couldn’t save them all, but definitely could have saved more. Lord was a very capable captain, and he chose not to act. All he had to do was wake up Evans, his radio operator, and have him see what was going on. He was told several times about the rockets, and he simply went back to sleep. Meanwhile, captain Rostron of the carpathia, who was over 50 miles away (4 hours) turned his ship around immediately after hearing the Titanic needed assistance
@@shotty2164 studies have been done on this and this has been proven false. his boilers were completely shut down and he would have had to start them, build steam, and navigate the ice field to the titanic. everyone had already froze to death.
did he do the wrong thing though? probably. well more like obviously. everyone knows they should have tried or atleast tried to connect with radio
@@mitchwood6609 every book I’ve ever read say he kept his steam up which is how he was able to immediately get under way when the sun came up, and he was on the scene fairly quickly while the carpathia was still there. I dont know what “studies” you’re talking about, but I’ve read at least 10 books on titanic and the two inquiries conducted in New York and England after the sinking and I’ve always read the Lords orders were to “keep steam up so we can get underway as soon as the sun rises” which is exactly what they did when his wireless operator got up and was told by another ship that the titanic sunk, and sent her coordinates to the Californian
@@shotty2164 appreciate that i might be wrong. i'm tired and all my reading on this was years ago. i thought i had read that somewhere but i might be getting my stories mixed up (different accident maybe who knows)
i sent you a link to a page that has some interesting info. have a good one my friend.
In typical Titanic tradition, there are some who claim to have dug up some dirt about the Captain, claiming his safety record at sea is bad. With several accidents and loss of crew. Remember, he was captain on the Olympic when it collided with HMS Hawke, in the solent. White Star lost the insurance claim, and Capt Smith retired; but was brought out of retirement , for the Titanic job.
For some reason he disregarded the ice warnings and steamed ahead, why?
Probably wanted to retire with a positive bang to erase the reputation damage related to Titanic’s sister ship. He was known to be very popular with high society… having him there might have encouraged more ticket sales.
Why full steam ahead? I’m guessing he wanted to be in good graces of White Star, wanted to reach NY in record time, and besides, a big iceberg would be seen fast and dodged, small icebergs could be blown through because the ship was unsinkable. Yup. Primary goal: Pull into NY early and continue to dazzle those onboard.
I almost wish the statues would have been of Carpathia’s captain instead. Even the Californian’s captain deserved an apology plaque or something for what he went through in the aftermath
Nonsense. Olympic was in the Solent at the time of the collision, in the charge of a Solent Pilot. The subsequent court case exonerated Smith of any blame. Smith did not retire, and therefore was not brought out of retitrement. You really shouldn't make things up.
What accidents & loss of crew, by the way.
@@YaYa-ke1zr 'Probably wanted to retire with a positive bang.' Except his reputation had not been blemished, because Olympic had been in the charge of a Solent pilot at the time of the collision.
There was no possibility of a record time, as the Olympics were four to five knots slower than the Mauretanias.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 “The Royal Navy blamed Olympic for the collision, claiming at an inquiry that the liner’s abrupt turn, combined with her massive displacement, created a situation that pulled Hawke into her side. White Star countered that their vessel was blameless, since Olympic was under the direct control of a harbor pilot, not her highly experienced master-Capt. Edward J. Smith-at the time of the accident. Hawke and her captain were later found to be not at fault.”
Financially, that collision damn near ruined White Star, and the captains reputation, at White Star, within White Star, did in fact suffer. Their PR was extraordinary for a company at this period of time. Other than JP’s cash, the reputation and marketing aspects were well known. That’s what White Star was good at.
These things were all inputs into why he was named Captain of the Titanic. Also, there are indications from his daughter that his career was in fact planned to be over before taking command of the Titanic. Whether there were official retirement papers somewhere is moot point, but if his family says he was retired, he was retired. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Take care
This praise for Capt Smith baffles me. In the end he was reckless. He ignored ice warnings and sped up the Titanic. His irresponsibility killed a lot of people. Praising Capt Smith is kind of like praising that truck driver of an 18 wheeler who ignores safety and road conditions in an ice storm who kills himself and a couple of other people.
Absolutely what I was gonna say!
Well no because we give him praise because we are going off fact not the movie. Smith was an irresponsible captain and titanic was never speeded up at all.
A captain can not act upon ice warnings when they are days away from them even 1 day you can’t act upon them. By the time your ship reaches that point the ice would have drifted. All captain smith could do was steer more south which he did.
2) titanic wasn’t a cruise ship she was an ocean liner she was the airplane of her day. These people wanted to get somewhere the ship could be either early or on time but she could never be late. It was standard practice to run a ship at a service speed if the night was clear which it was.
3) titanic wasn’t even going full speed. She still had 5 of her boilers unlit. Regardless of what the movie says happened it didn’t. Ismay never ordered captain smith to increase speed. Hwoever both men spoke about a speed test on April 15 this is the conversation what took place with smith and Ismay sadly it was taken out of context.
4) the most vital ice warning the only one smith could act upon was never delivered to the bridge.
The only ice warning any captain could have acted upon wasn’t even delivered.
Testimony from the 2nd office said if that warning had been delivered he would have slowed the ship and alerted smith. Something smith made very clear for him to do if there was a slightest change.
He later goes in to say he had every faith smith would have stoped the ship and waited till morning to navigate the ice. Something smith was known to do a number of times with WSL ships including titanic sister ship the Olympic.
Captain smith wasn’t a reckless man. He ran his ship very well and very safely. Perhaps if you did more research instead of your movie facts you’d know.
Captain smith did everything he could that night he saved as many as he could. He even tried calling boats back.
Not to mention even before he knew titanic was going to sink he ordered lifeboats to he set up and swung despite not thinking the damage was serious. That action alone saved nearly 40 minutes to an hour of prep time. He was a man with great pride in his ship but a man with common sense and a man who knew the sea as best as you could. He is a man who did all he could
@@ryanhelton1865 contrary to what I have read throughout the years, the night was not clear. Not even moon light was there.
He didn't speed up Titanic.
He also didn't ignore the ice warnings completely. He actually was so concerned that he charted a new course that took the ship further south adding time to the journey.
Well, I don't know if Capt.Smith was the culprit or not but the manager, I can't remember his name, who saved himself you know, that guy is the one to blame for he bought cheap material for the structure of the ship,the budget was diminished,coal was scarce due to labor strikes, pressure from investors, on top of it all, the ship went from place to place before its final journey, with a fire inside that was the real cause of the sinking of the Titanic since the steel became weaker and weaker being of the cheapest steel that when the iceberg came in contact with that weak steel, it was like cutting paper, said those who know better. There were some other facts that made the Titanic sank but what I think is,recapturing the theme of your comment, did Capt.Smith know about this? Did he have some authority to interfere in the manager's decisions? We talk too much about Capt.Smith but almost nothing about the one who built the ship and only he is responsible for the disaster of the Titanic.
He was a hero and a classy gentleman ..bottom line he did his best to save women and children first and then he went down with the ship.
yeah....after sinking the ship...
@@fiachramaccana280He sunk the ship? No, he was resting while other crew were on night watch after having morning and evening rest. He was awoken once they had failed to dodge the iceberg and continued at 21-22 knots.
@@timothythespider5036 yeah you don't really seem to understand how ships work. A captain sets the course and makes all the major decisions. The ship was where it was because the captain wanted it there. His officers were following his orders. He doesn't have to be on the bridge all the time
Thats how being captain works.
Man that Titan sub really has really led me down the rabbit hole…😂🤦🏿♂️
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
He was no hero.
In my opinion he was reckless, how he took a ship on it's maiden voyage with excessive speed. Knowing there were no binoculars available in the crow's nest that night. Plus he has been warned about ice bergs on his route. He knew very well during that period of the year, there were going to be icebergs on that particular route, yet he took no precautions. He was entirely responsible for all the lives that were lost.
Smith did not ignore iceberg warnings. He altered the ship's course to a more southernly route in an attempt to avoid the ice. Even though it may seem wrong today, not slowing down,even in the presence of ice, was considered standard practice for the time. Several other captains testified at the subsequent enquiries that they would have done the same thing in Captain Smith's position. We are looking at things through 21st century eyes so a lot of what happened then seems ridiculous today, but standards and practices were very different back then.
Was either Smith, JP Morgan or Ismay's fault.
@@1USACitizen192ISMAYS FAULT.
@robertmcalpine488 One of the most frustrating things for me is to read comments by people who do not understand an event in the context of the times. One has to grasp the mores, thoughts, level of knowledge, and culture of the day.
A great sea captain and a great career - shame it ended at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. He ignored warnings and sailed full steam into an ice field. Bad move
Yes
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
the titanic ship is big but you can't see the ocean-sized ship on the globe
🫣 Thank you so much! 🇦🇺🤗🕊️
I heard the other ship thought the rockets were just for fun and the captain said its the Titanic they are just having fun or something to that effect.
not the captain... he was in bed. it was the officer one watch that assumed that.
As often is the case many of the photos, even some labeled as Titanic, are actually Olympic, because the promenade deck on Olympic was open whereas on the Titanic it wasn't. Easy to spot the difference.
Yeah, especially the grand staircase photos because no one ever actually got to take any pictures of the Titanic’s grand staircase which people said actually had a mirror instead of clock.
Captain Smith yelled Be British. So they all stood around complaining and being passive aggressive to each other.
Excellent
My cousin's great great uncle was Cpt Edward J Smith, It had always been a great shame on the family, with my cousins great great grandad, Edwards brother calling him a "Bloody Fool", RIP Edward.
GOT THAT RIGHT!
"The biggest question of all is whether Rush was too cavalier about the experimental vessel, which was never certified by a regulatory body and had raised safety concerns. "I'm struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, where the captain was repeatedly warned about ice ahead of his ship, and yet he steamed full speed ahead into an ice field on a moonless night, " director James Cameron told ABC News. And so many people died as a result."
The ship should of been named the RMS Fuster Cluck! Good clusters happen all the time, but great clusters take planning and organization! This is one of the great clusters, and a great one keeps giving!
Looking at the percentages, the crew made up the largest of the 4 distinct groups of those aboard Titanic, and they also lost the most amongst their ranks…both by total number and by proportional percentage. There can be no doubt that the vast majority of her crew followed Capt. Smith’s last orders to the tee and were, indeed, British. One need only look at some disasters of ships belonging to and crewed by members of nations of less moral character and devotion to duty to see how inspirational the actions of Titanic’s crew were. A particularly bad example would be the MV Oceanos which sank in 1991. The vast majority of the Greek crew filled the first lifeboats to leave the ship, leaving only passengers with a knowledge of the sea and a skeleton crew of a few musicians, cooks and engineers to oversee the evacuation, not a ranking officer to be found. The captain even phoned from the shore….yes, from dry land….to “check on the status” of the evacuation after finally making a coward’s retreat in an early lifeboat in spite of being stopped and forcefully kept aboard at least once before his escape. By the grace of god nobody died in that sinking, largely a result of technology and requirements that came from lessons learned from Titanic’s sinking almost 70 years before. However even with no lives lost the actions of the captain and crew cannot be overlooked as had there not been brave souls to take their place in getting people off the ship, nearly 70% of the passengers would have wound up in the water with nothing but a life jacket at best, and being dragged down within the ship at worst. The crew of Oceanos were most definitely NOT “Being British”.
If only Smith’s hubris had not lead to the deaths of so many - I’d admire him but the crew who followed his commands to the end are the true heroes.
Pilot error killed all those people. He was an egotistical fool.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
No he wasn't he did everything right and even other captains said they would've done the exact same thing he did as it was standard practice at that time Smith did everything he was expected to do as a captain and couldn't do anything more a lot of the 705 survivors owe their lives to Smith
@@Ken_Frazer-619 based on what I’ve read, I disagree
FYI the captain of the Titanic made 3.5 million dollars a year in todays dollars with a Stellar Career that included stinits in wars and commendations from military and merchant navys there is more to him than meets the eyes and the true story of the disaster is much more complex than 2 second soundbytes
and he could afford an Irish wolfhound with the most human eyes.
On Wednesday 18 May 1927 in Bath Michigan there was a massacre of 38 children and 6 asults. The disaster was worse than Sandy Hook. People back then are tougher than we are today.
The story of the Titanic was so tragic 😥. It is important to hear the stories of the people on the Titanic. Titanic will always be tragic 👏 story.
Good God ! They actually created a statue to this man. He was the main reason for the disaster which killed hundreds of passengers. Only the pompous teflon English would do such a thing. The E.J. stood for EJit.
You are clearly able to judge the entire population of England. Have you met us all?
Was he? He did nothing wrong that night; in fact, he did what any captain would do. The weather was perfect, and the ship had yet to run into ice. He told his officers that if anything changes then the ship should slow down. What else should he have done?
So sad 🥺 may all gone souls rest well 😭
BE BRITISH. I AM. AND PROUD.
Loving the caps - really makes me think you really are proud. Thanks, Noel.
That was never said by smith , it was British government and English newspapers released that nonsense propaganda,before carpatia even made it into Newyork with the survivors surviving officers and smiths friends said he would never come out with such a ridiculous statement when on board all his ships were Americans and other high society around Europe were on board.
Yes thanks for his story
smith may have been liked by the rich but he was no hero, he failed his ship, his crew, and his passengers their deaths was his responsibility, he was warned about the ice dangers but steamed on recklessly at full speed , even if under pressure from his boss his command was the final say.
Titanic wasn't at full speed, and there is no actual evidence that any pressure was put on him by Ismay.
Actually, he had altered to a more southerly course.
Don't let facts disturb your convictions, however.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
CLASSIC
01:50 I hope people are aware that that footage is not of Titanic, it's her sister ship Olympic. Hence the jumping white out marks on the boats covering NEW YORK.
There is no actual video footage of Titanic 😔
Just letting you know 👌
There was a ship called the Great Eastern hit an iceberg and did the same amount of damage but stayed afloat because it was built right
Imagine being awakened to die😢
Or to go on a rescue mission.
According to some documentaries he was a bit over confident.
For the information the music played as the ship sunk to keep the passengers calm, this is true information I got from my father.
True. The actual music played is uncertain. Some survivors suggested that it was a medley of popular dance tunes.
plenty of eye witnesses also stated this during the hearings. it's fact. the only thing we dont know for certain is what song was the last one lol. but they narrowed it down. to a few. the movie may have gotten that accurate too
The story of the Titanic has touched many people.
Such a great ship and it sinks on its maiden voyage is beyond imaginable.
But lets be honest here as to why it did sink? It was due to greed and the wanting of
bragging rights to tell the world how fast it was and how short a time it took for it to do the crossing.
Not sure the captain was even qualified back then just because he let his employer tell him how to run the ship and not himself looking after his passenger and crew. The times where different back then yes and the way things where done completely different. But the same as in being responsible that has not changed one bit.
The Olympics were four knots slower than the Mauretanias, therefore speed was never a relevant factor. In fact, five boilers were never connected.
Smith had been a Master Mariner since 1887, and there is no actual evidence that he allowed anyone to dictate his handling of the ship.
If you want to be honest, you need to proceed on the basis of known facts, not your imagination.
Born and Bred. Stoke on Trent
PORQUE FIZERAM UMA ESTATUA DESSE CAPITAO SMITH FOI UM HEROI OQUE ELE FEZ ????
Nao~ fez nada de u'til. Ele so' acabou contribuindo ao desastre indo naquela velocidade. Quer dizer - nao~ contribuiu nada vezes porcaria nenhuma.
Damn. Just literally 2 days from retirement.
He did his best. That is all anyone could expect. No criticism here.
@Lappillainenas if you could do any better with you everyone would've died he did everything a captain could do in that situation including laying down his life and saved hundreds of lives
Id like to have to have one of those pocket watches. 🤣😂
It is easy. Walmart sells them for $12 a piece.
I suspected Titanic would sink soon as I heard they claimed it was unsinkable and so I wasn’t surprised that it sunk
You are right on the arrogance of men (& women
No one actually made such a claim.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 what planet do you reside in ? Juniper or Jupiter mars or March?
@@Africa-Liberation-Army How tediously predictable. You have no rejoinder, and therefore resort to an insult. Moreover, not even a very good one.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 I apologize if you felt insulted but that’s not the objective. I meant where have you been that you did not know or heard that titanic was claimed to be unsinkable
Miss u
‘Be British’ so he cooks a butter chicken and pappadum.
Hi
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The rich man's nerd!
He went on to play theoden king of Rohan
Smith was 100% inadequate to Captain that ship.
Bruce James Ismay should never have let her sail. He knew there was a fire in the engine room. It raged on and on. He gave the command full steam ahead through 'Berg' waters!!
(Smith gave the command). At least he went down with her, unlike the shameful, selfish, survivor, Bruce James Ismay, who jumped aboard a lifeboat: in front of others.
He survived of course. Ashamedly so!
I think you mean Bruce Ismay. And no, he didn't jump on a lifeboat in front of others. He was OFFERED a seat on a lifeboat that was about to be lowered, as were other men who were standing around. Should he have accepted? That's a debate I think people can have.
But to say he jumped in like a coward is wrong. He saved women and children by assisting them onto boats. One survivor credits him for saving her life saying she was reluctant and he physically picked her up and tossed her towards the loading area.
Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't have gone down with the ship, but there is a huge difference between helping many passengers and then taking a seat with other men after an offer...and just plowing past people to jump into a lifeboat while others around aren't allowed on while not helping a soul.
As for the fire, you would be surprised how common fires were on ships like that. It doesn't always equate to detrimental damage. Hell, cruise ships have fires and just go about like nothing is happening even today.
@@lynnkayee1015 Pernicketty responses.
It's no excuse for the design fault of the bulkheads. And
BRUCE JAMES ISMAY's authorisation of millions of )Grade 3 instead of grade 4 ) iron rivets, instead of steel ones, just so that she was not further postponed (had already been for one month).
GREED ran that ship, and greed killed 1500 people !
Greed remains to this day!
And 5 people fried recently in the site where the liner lies. The lifeboat Ismay was on sailed only half full.
@@joysynmonds9082 Ismay had no involvement in the design of the ship. He was a businessman, not a naval architect. Harland & Wolff placed a tender for each ship. Once accepted, White Star left them to proceed with construction.
The bulkheads were higher than Board of Trade requirements demanded. The fact is that Titanic sank because she had been subjected to events far beyond anything contemplated.
Iron rivets? The same ones used to construct Olympic, which had an illustrious 23 year career? Those rivets?
Fire in the engine room? Do you mean the one in a bunker? A smouldering fire detected in Southampton during the daily bunker inspections required by IMM regulations? The one extinguished at least a day before the collision, after damaging nothing more than paintwork inside the bunker?
Aside from the fact that the decision to sail was not Ismay's, do try to think about this :-
If Titanic was unseaworthy, why would Smith (a Master Mariner since 1887 & Senior White Star captain since 1904) have decided to sail? Moreover, would his officers, and in particular Joseph Bell, his chief engineer, have gone along with the thought that potential mass suicide was a good idea?
His name is Joseph Bruce Ismay.
he didn't do anything wrong. all the other captains testified they would have done the same thing captain smith had done. it was common practice at the time. the end. end of story. ish happens. that is life. sometimes you freeze to death in the north atlantic under the brightest stars you've ever seen after putting your life in the hands of the WHITE STAR LINE.... they forshadowed this tragedy with there damn company name and the SHIP NAME!!! from the book written 15 years prior exactly describing what would happen (basically). guess what the book was called? THE TITAN! just like the dam sub that just imploded LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... oh jesus stop. it's too much
As a Hindu we believe in reincarnation, I wonder what his soul is doing now...I wish I was one of those great masters who could track and see souls
Bravely spoken and yet in your ignorance your eyes are blinded. Your heart is deceived by fallacies and fables, your traditions and culture surely cloud your vision. The living know that they will die and the dead know nothing. So whilst you are living, seek the truth and know that you will truly die. 1Peter1:24 Because " All flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, and the flower falls away, 25 But the word of the LORD endures forever." (LORD from Tetragrammaton YHWH)
@@alexanderrigby6917hahahahaha 🤣🤣 I love fairy tales! Another one please 🥺
@alexanderrigby6917 well if you're gonna play that game even jesus's resurrection was a type of reincarnation but back into his original body before he was crucified, resurrection, reincarnation, and reanimation are all the same in sanatan dharma aka Hinduism.
@@alexanderrigby6917 Dude. What are you smoking. Can I have some ?
@@babloo1666 Almost! So you believe in the resurrection then?
He lived in Liverpool aswell.
The ship at the opening is NOT the Titanic...
"Be British" a MYTH...
By Speeding through ice while others have stopped for the night?
Gimme a break...🤭That's an insult British Mariners
The ship is Olympic. There is less than a minute of known newsreel footage of Titanic.
The only ship to stop was Californian, because of shhet ice not icebergs.
Titanic was not at full speed. Five boilers were not connected.
It was quite common in the day to continue through with reported icebergs.
I wish you could block channels on youtube 99% of them are awesome but the ones who transfer over from legacy cable channels. bring their ad corruption with them. you can tell as the videos are more advertising than content. stick with the average person channels they are as good if not better and respect you enough to see you as a subscriber not a paycheck
"Be British!" Really, what's with that.... :-l
Pro Smith doco, he probably was the reason why the ship struck the iceberg and went down.
How could he do that when he was in his cabin asleep and it was Officer Murdoch driving the ship at the time of the collision
Everyone shittin on the captain here..Well what makes you think he didn't regret his negligence before he died? Let the man rest. He has my respect.
And the funny thing is they would have done a far worse job as captain and he doesn't even have blame here as he wasn't driving it when this happened and he did everything he could to save everyone
Mr Thomas Andrews! director of Harland and Wolff. Rose and cal hockey! Going to America to Mary💀
In reality, he was irresponsible and a disgrace for what he did!…….no way a hero!…..today he would have been prosecuted for wreck less behaviour and manslaughter!…..classic case of putting corporate greed above safety!
ALL VICTIMS R I P AMEN ❤
Smith can’t be held at fault for the loss of his ship. Sailing at 22 kts in a potential ice field was standard practice in the day. It sounds ludicrous today with hindsight, but that’s what they did. However, multiple witnesses reported later that Smith’s conduct once he grasped the enormity of his predicament was beneath contempt.
I bet they called him smudge.
8:53 "Uneventful" was to pay off one of these days :-l
Is he the bloke that Captain Birdsye was Characterised by ??? 😂
eva hart says dreadful way too much in every interview she gave
Didn't he belong to the Jesuit church ? A very strange branch of the Catholic Church. The career of people associated with the Jesuit church is puzzling to me. For example, Joseph Stalin graduated from a Jesuit school. In our history, many people associated with the Jesuit church have caused great disasters against people. There are so many examples that it is worth asking yourself what and who is the Jesuit organization ? Compared to them, Freemasonry is child's play.
So the Titanic captain was a Jesuit? I had no idea, but that is very interesting- and significant to this whole event. Yes, the Jesuits have quite an ignoble history, indeed.
Jesuits are very good educators. I attended a Catholic school run by them. Too many people have weirdo conspiracies about these priests.
@@warrenlewis3977 No doubt Jesuits are brilliant educators/individuals. It is not easy to become a Jesuit after all, as they only take the brightest. Many have been the "movers and shakers" of this world. However, if one looks into the "fruit of their labors" throughout history, one has to wonder about the conspiracies.
He sanked the titanic.
Indeed Jesuists have a bad reputation amongst many people.
Typical tough Potter and pure Stoke
Eva Hart❤
She said "The Titanic will go down in history as the one disaster where there was no need for anyone to die."
At least captain smith went down with his ship he didnt desert like Bruce ismay don't care if he was cleared he was a coward through and through
Captain smith did desert his ship though. What you see in the movie didn’t happen in real life.
Both smith and Andrews were seen by countless witnesses jumping over the ports side bridge wing.
Andrews said to smith “she won’t last much longer” smith replied “no” andrews then said “we’ve done all we can” smith replied with a “hmm”
Both men were then observed jumping over the bridge wing just before the bridge was flooded.
The last eye witness of both men was in the water. Smith and Andrews swam to an upside down lifeboat and ask could they board they was denied. Smith then handed over a baby to the boat and asked them to take the child at least which they did. Both men swam away from titanic and that was the last time they was seen. 5 minutes after this titanic would break in half and sink
@@ryanhelton1865 yes I heard about the baby but no one in the water or the up turned boat can recall captain smith handing a baby over to them he stayed on the ship as long as he could and yes he was going through an lce field at at 22 and a 1/2 knots which was reckless but he still want down with his ship his body was never recovered
@@ryanhelton1865never read about this before.
@@ryanhelton1865 Where did you read or hear this?
@@user-gv5bs3os5i he didn’t go down with the ship though. We have a number of eye witness statement who all claim both smith and Andrew jumped off the bridge wing. And then another witness statement by someone from a bot saying they was seen in the water with a baby.
And the ship being at 22 knots was not reckless or was standard practice and still is today.
A captain can not act upon ice warning which are over 12 hours away from their location because it’s impossible to do so.
That night the captain was completely unaware they was travelling in an ice field because a very vital message was never delivered to the bridge. If that had been delivered to the bridge which was was the only ice warning a captain could take action on the ship would have been slowed by the second officer and more than likely smith would have stoped completely something he was known to do a lot on previous white star ships it’s how he became known as a safe captain.
The amount of people I see as a cruise ship bridge officer who constantly tell me smith was dangerous going at the speed when they have no idea how a ship runs or operates
When the weather is clear and calm and you can see far out there is no need to slow or stop a ship. And smith never knew he was in an ice field neither did any of the bridge crew and how could they when the wireless operators failed to deliver the message to tell them they was ?
What you see in the film is far from the truth. Cameron did an awful job at retelling the story out of the whole thing there are only around 10-15 things what are actually factually correct
the Mount Temple
This video is full of inaccurate statements. It’s actually kind of pathetic.
Interesting that they would erect a statue to a man whose carelessness caused hundreds of deaths.
I don't believe Stoke wanted it so it was passed on to Lichfield
It's horrific when you think about it.
If I was a family member of one of the deceased I'd be very angry
Blame is not a healthy attitude.
I understand Stoke later changed their minds, but Lichfield refused to hand it back.
My ancestors last words to his crew was "be brittish"
hahahaha. Yeah right. If youre related then I am the emporer of china. BTW it is British not brittish.
It was his fault the ship went down
No it wasn't
He was at fault he should've slowed down (among other things)
Whats with the Awful Singing?
Kind of an incompetent captain on this voyage.
That big POS went down.
If the Germans would have built the Titanic it would not have sunk
"If the Germans would have built the Titanic it would not have sunk"
Ship build to be sunken. Want to know the truth? follow the money.
Too slow moving, too much fluff and word salads for me, get to the meat of the matter from the get go. Definitely not the best biography, totally disjointed 😮
Word Salads. Never heard 👂that before. Very nice!👌
@@mikegleed5842 "word salad" is a very common expression.
Olympic not the Titanic. Stop continuing the lie.
He was Captain of the Olympic first and then switched places with Herbert Haddock the original Captain of the Titanic.
I don't disagree with a statue of Captain Smith that is if you can call him a captain but they should have put a big sign up that said I'm the biggest dumbass that ever lived I had several ice warnings that day but did not act on none of it I let the ship's steam foll ahead knowing there were large iceberg in the area didn't even slow it down any I know the night was moonless what have I heart trouble seeing an iceberg until I was almost on top of it the sea was calm no breaking water to base and he was responsible for the death of 1500 people as were the owners we're not putting enough lifeboats on the Titanic the smart play Captain Smith could have done was stop the ship for the night for safety him and Stockton rush we're similar disregarded rules and safety
"if you can call him a captain" HE WAS, IN FACT, THE CAPTAIN OF "TITANIC", SIR.
@@Vingul only in name he shouldn't even been in command of a sailboat he was responsible for all their deaths
@@Vingul it was no Captain I can tell you that
@@Vingul the only thing he will ever be remembered for is responsible for 1500 deaths
@@JohnWest-zq5gs I put most of the blame on him too, but he seems to have been a more respectable man than yourself nonetheless. Granted, from what little I can see of your attitude.
Vu qu'il est derrière elle a besoin d'un psychiatre vraiment aller à la le pipi le popo Pipo pipi pipi popo😅🎩🛀⚓🌫️ qui rajoute sur le sur l'interview ça veut dire parce que moi je les aime vraiment les hommes qui sont morts dans le Titanic je sais que c'est quelqu'un c'est pas n'importe qui donc ça va mon cœur j'aimerais bien voulu avoir un épi comme ça tu dis vraiment tu vois mais même si un siècle en arrière et tout le monde
Haha! The rich persons Captain. May he be in hell eternal!
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thanks for your enormous contribution to mankind. goober
R D R & R
Har Di Har har
They're post nominal letters, the RD is for Decoration for Officers of the Royal Naval Reserve (Reserve Decoration), and the RNR is Royal Naval Reserve
A thoroughly incompetent captain in charge of an incompetent crew all hailed as heroes.