The Car That Killed VW Motorsports - Driving and Tearing into the MK8 Golf GTI TCR

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
  • ►2019 was a phenomenal year for FCP Euro and its motorsports team. Fielding two cars in the SRO TC America championship lead to a crushing manufacturers and drivers championship at seasons. Unfortunately, Volkswagen decided to leave the championship on a high note and elected to forego production of a new Mk8-based GTI touring car, or so we thought. Friend of FCP Euro and Orchid Euro owner, Jamie Orr, took a trip to VW's secret warehouse and discovered the singular functioning prototype Mk8 TCR racer unreleased by VW Motorsports.
    The Mk8 TCR represents what could've been for VW and FCP Euro Motorsports, say, maybe another championship or two. Although that never happened, VW was kind enough to ship the prototype over, along with their one-of-one Golf A59, and give it to FCP Euro for a day at Lime Rock Park. With FCP Euro Motorsports Director and former driver of the #72 FCP Euro Motorsports Golf TCR Nate Vincent at the wheel, watch as we get to know the prototype and put it through its paces.
    00:00 - Getting Familiar With the Volkswagen Mk8 GTI TCR Prototype
    01:40 - Initial Impressions Inside the Mk8 TCR
    02:05 - First Drive in the Volkswagen Mk8 TCR
    04:05 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Anti-Lag
    05:35 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Post Drive Impressions
    08:00 - Under the Skin of the Mk8 GTI TCR Prototype
    08:34 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Engine
    10:21 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Cooling System
    11:38 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Engine Mounts and Bracing
    12:23 - Lowering COG in the Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Engine Bay
    13:10 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Aerodynamics
    18:44 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Rear Wing
    19:22 - Getting Underneath the Volkswagen Mk8 TCR
    19:35 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Front Suspension Adjustments
    20:50 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Exhaust System
    21:27 - Transmission Comparison Between the MK8 TCR and MK8 GTI Street Car
    22:20 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Front Subframe Analysis
    23:20 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Rear Suspension Layout and Tuning
    25:20 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Interior
    29:27 - Wrap-Up
    Special thanks to: Jamie Orr & Volkswagen Classic
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 118

  • @JamieOrr
    @JamieOrr Рік тому +37

    Amazing work Nathan and the FCP Euro video team! Extra cool seeing your insight based on your racing (and winning) of the Mk7 ❤
    And huge thanks again to Volkswagen Classic for helping make this happen, it’s wild that this car was saved and preserved, instead of just crushed and never being seen.

    • @hotshotfx3502
      @hotshotfx3502 Рік тому +1

      👍 😃

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +4

      We hope the people who worked so hard to bring this car to life, and those who gave us the opportunity to let it speak for itself on the track can sit back and enjoy this piece as well!

  • @malcolmn.5222
    @malcolmn.5222 Рік тому +103

    That car didn't kill VW motorsports. VW still trying to make ammends for the emissions scandal they had a few years back is what killed VW motorsports.

    • @affendyismail2136
      @affendyismail2136 Рік тому +1

      Bla bla bla BLA BLA,

    • @malcolmn.5222
      @malcolmn.5222 Рік тому +10

      @@affendyismail2136 ?? Don't like the truth?

    • @GoldNargacuga
      @GoldNargacuga Рік тому +5

      @@malcolmn.5222 No one does lol. But I agree with you.

    • @mamixon100
      @mamixon100 Рік тому +2

      Referencing TCR not VW motorsports. They're past diesel gate. It's VAG.

    • @muhamadaiman8683
      @muhamadaiman8683 Рік тому

      I think you misunderstood the words kiled

  • @mattspring4696
    @mattspring4696 Рік тому +22

    Another one I am super proud to be a part of. Thank you to Jamie Orr and Volkswagen Classic for making this video become a reality!

  • @p1_visuals769
    @p1_visuals769 Рік тому +16

    Sweet 8 ounce baby Jesus…the production on this video is NEXT LEVEL😍😍😍😍😍

  • @michaelsantoro170
    @michaelsantoro170 Рік тому +6

    I feel like a more fitting title would be "the car that died with VW motorsport". Jamie Orr is an incredible person, and it was really nice to meet him on multiple occasions. I know he was busy at the L'oe Show, VAG fair, ect over the last few years- but he always made time to speak to me and my group of friends that accompanied me. Was able to see this and the A59 in person (dont tell anyone, but I touched em)- and coming from a background in mechanical engineering- they're both really impressive in person.

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      So glad you got a chance to see both the A59 and Mk8 TCR in the flesh...and don't worry, your secret is safe with us, and literally everyone else who watches this video 🤫😁

  • @derekmccord3798
    @derekmccord3798 Рік тому +10

    I love TCR I wish the US embraced it more and I know of Pilot Challenge. We run a TCR series weekly in RaceRoom.

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +3

      We wish the same Derek- its hands down some of the best racing , with some of the best cars on a racetrack anywhere. Perfect blend of relatable and aspirational soon.

  • @bernardosantos1862
    @bernardosantos1862 Рік тому +4

    absolutely love the videos like this and the A59, would love to see more touring car or street ish prototype content that the world hasn't seen before. keep up the amazing work guys

  • @SergioLegorretaOfficial
    @SergioLegorretaOfficial 3 місяці тому

    What a splendid video and what an opportunity to learn more of the MK 8 TCR race car that never was. I really hope that VAG eventually makes it back to TCR world or a similar world-class homologated tourism racing series. In the meantime, I will keep on racing my MK 7 TCR and enjoying it every second.

  • @ryanp6138
    @ryanp6138 Рік тому +1

    We had an old BTCC Toledo/Leon Supercopa Hybrid built by Seat Sport UK using the spares bin with a TDi engine. Those Toledo's had the exact same Camber and Toe adjustment as the Mk8 and Gen 2 Leon TCRs in 2004ish. When you have 3 or 4 races a day you don't have time for strings! Thanks for the video, I did a much less professional version looking around our RS3 TCR!

  • @st4xor
    @st4xor Рік тому +4

    This is an awesome piece. Very rare look at a cutting edge current generation TCR machine. Much appreciated--thanks!

  • @RoymerPerez
    @RoymerPerez Рік тому +2

    Congrats guys. This is FANTASTIC content. 👏👏

  • @hardcoreep
    @hardcoreep Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @CameronRob
    @CameronRob Рік тому +4

    I love my mk8 gti. That tcr exhaust is amazing!

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      It sounded amazing out there... glad you're enjoying your MK8!

  • @shepardman993
    @shepardman993 Рік тому +4

    Why why in hell did VW stop this 😳 massive disappointment do we know why they didn’t go there with it ? I’m a massive VW Golf fan 🙌 got a MK7R with FBO’s and E85 600HP and I just absolutely love soo seeing this was amazing seen some other companies with pictures but see it and hear it so amazing thank you

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +4

      Unfortunately, the Mk8 TCR is a casualty of the overall direction of the business. We were disappointed to find out it had even existed in the first place, and now after having spent time with the car even more disappointed since it is such a huge step up in competition and performance!

    • @shepardman993
      @shepardman993 Рік тому

      @@fcpeuro so devastating what a amazing car

  • @p00pie
    @p00pie Рік тому +2

    Awesome little beast. Lime rock looks amazing in the fall.

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +1

      Truly special place during peak fall.

  • @ande0815
    @ande0815 10 місяців тому

    Realy great car! Thank you for this Video.
    And what is with the 2017 Polo WRC???

  • @deutschhhhh6922
    @deutschhhhh6922 Рік тому +2

    Gorgeous and impressive engineering

  • @redsiput44
    @redsiput44 7 місяців тому

    Really sad vw mk8 tcr never got into proper production. Im so so happy with my mk8gti from Malaysia and hope to replicate that tcr brake air ducts for my time attack in sepang international circuit.

  • @michaelrossi3275
    @michaelrossi3275 Рік тому +2

    Man those wheels look sooooo good

  • @DiegoRodriguezAW11
    @DiegoRodriguezAW11 Рік тому +2

    this is an absolutely brilliant vid!!! but....what are the geometry specs? it should be awesome to take a look and learn a bit more about that :D

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +2

      Sadly we didn't have enough time with the car to take any measurements...

  • @Glitchingskater
    @Glitchingskater Рік тому +6

    Love the beauty of engineering. Sad they didn't go through with the project. I wonder if there's a reason for it.

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +4

      There really is something magical about proper touring car engineering at its finest. A shame VW left motorsport as a whole, and this being the last glimmer of hope left behind.

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter Рік тому +12

      the reason for it is misplaced climate hysteria

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter Рік тому +2

      @@fcpeuro Porsche can't go public soon enough. Dieselgate broke VW

    • @ivdubgti
      @ivdubgti Рік тому +3

      They got Woke now they going broke

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter Рік тому

      @Joseph C. Porsche makes beaucoup from sports cars, just like Ferrari

  • @btbd2785
    @btbd2785 4 місяці тому

    They did make a limited production Golf TCR Edition. So I am a little confused when you said that they never made a production version of the Gold TCR. what makes this prototype tcr so special?

  • @Soldadummy
    @Soldadummy Рік тому +3

    They killed this because of their focus on electric power. They pulled out of the TCR completely, worldwide.
    Sad really because it meant Audi, Seat etc were gone too. For a few years VW won championships etc.
    I think it's death knell was dieselgate.
    What a thing though. I'm extremely disappointed. When I see the series in the US it is dominated by Hyundai. ...

    • @Dukes3677
      @Dukes3677 Рік тому

      And vw could've killed them if they kept at it

  • @kadenwilson3703
    @kadenwilson3703 Рік тому

    That car looks baaaad so sick bros ❤️🔥

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      It's one bad bit - drives as good as it looks!

  • @lsowner10
    @lsowner10 Рік тому

    I really want that wheel design for my RS3!

  • @alexkirango1178
    @alexkirango1178 Рік тому +1

    How would have they done WRC car if not for dieselgate? I think think it would be better than the Yaris

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +2

      Would have been super competitive without a doubt.

  • @GTI.OWNERSCLUB
    @GTI.OWNERSCLUB Рік тому +1

    WOW!!! The GTI mk8 is AMAZING!!! .

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      Truly is mirk pro - kills us to know it never had a proper chance.

  • @hotshotfx3502
    @hotshotfx3502 Рік тому +1

    Great stuff, as a VAG driver n owner for 3 decades, I want one in my garage 😀

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +1

      Closest any of us will ever get to that is a poster on our wall 😥

  • @conradclaassen1214
    @conradclaassen1214 Рік тому +1

    Thanks to Jamie Orr for making this possible

  • @josephformeister6566
    @josephformeister6566 Рік тому

    Noce! Wish I could own one.

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +1

      So do we Joseph 😂

  • @jessevasquez2774
    @jessevasquez2774 Рік тому +2

    Hooligan will be having the TCR VW GTI mk8. Peeps from L.A. or Long Beach. Should go ck it out

  • @808vws8
    @808vws8 Рік тому +1

    YAH buddy💪🏽

  • @owenellis8557
    @owenellis8557 Рік тому

    What's the difference between this and the blue cars that VW South Africa was racing?

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +2

      The "GTC" cars in South Africa are quite different. As quick as we can:
      TCR cars are a global specification for FWD-only touring cars. They have a spec wing and splitter, as said in the video, and all make around 350hp. They are based on the factory chassis, and carry over quite a few parts from the street cars most of the time.
      The GTC cars raced in South Africa are a class that is only raced in South Africa. The cars are a space-frame (aka tube fame) chassis, with a Golf body placed on top - but perhaps most interestingly, they are a longitudinal located engine (the standard GTI is transverse) and the GTC car is also rear wheel drive...and makes something like 600hp. Both very cool cars, but very different from each other.

  • @jus1029ph
    @jus1029ph 2 місяці тому

    Who's here after VW announced that they are reviving the Mk8 TCR for the Nurburgring 24h?

  • @snkkulatea1720
    @snkkulatea1720 Рік тому

    Nice F1 t shirt

  • @Akwa47
    @Akwa47 Рік тому

    Does it have auto car play ?

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +1

      AND cruise control.

  • @491Mystic
    @491Mystic Рік тому

    Does it jump

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      It will if you want it to 😁

  • @lavine0823
    @lavine0823 Рік тому +1

    At first I thought it was a Scirocco R

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      Another cool car from VW!

  • @germancarfan
    @germancarfan Рік тому +1

    They need to sell these!

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      We'd be first on the list to purchase!

    • @ojj5643
      @ojj5643 Рік тому

      @@fcpeuro TCR is dead ....the name TCR will never be on a Golf again. Only the MK 7.5 was branded and sold outside the USA in a TCR Version.
      VW is also thinking to stop the Golf production. Forever.
      They are looking forward to push the ID. electric Cars.

  • @gerdhermann752
    @gerdhermann752 Рік тому

    Volkswagen South Africa races two Golf 8 GTIs in the local Touring Car series....

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +2

      Ya, they are some beautiful pieces of engineering as well but much different as they are GTC cars not homologated TCR's.

  • @_Wai_Wai_
    @_Wai_Wai_ Рік тому

    I mean, why?

  • @Dukes3677
    @Dukes3677 Рік тому

    It makes me happy it's a "gti"

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      Golf R is cool but GTI is the original :)

  • @JacesOwnWorld
    @JacesOwnWorld Рік тому

    The TCR is a really cool car. What it puts down on paper definitely translates to your own hands while driving. BUT it’s expensive, and for it’s expense, there is just way more thrill to be had with a RWD platform.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому +1

      TCR and GT4 race cars are about the same price and do about the same laptimes AFAIK. Given GT4s are based on more exotic cars like Caymans and AMG GTs, the running costs for things like engines and body panels are probably a bit higher.

  • @superdave19855
    @superdave19855 Рік тому

    Man.... VW and their Motorsport division really, really dropped the ball. Their embrace of the illogical, unsustainable electrictrification movement is such a gut punch to those of us who love cars. Technology improving is always cool, but at the expense of the driving experience and driver control? No thank you.

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 11 місяців тому +1

      Just so happy i got to buy the GTI Clubsport MK7 back in 2017 here in Europe, Sweden. Before VW decided to drop the ball for real car fans! Still own it & keep modding alittle year by year. You can check some vids on my build browsing my channel.

  • @ojj5643
    @ojj5643 Рік тому +2

    Anyway .... MK 7.5 will be the one and only real GTI TCR ever.

    • @ojj5643
      @ojj5643 Рік тому

      @@quicktoreason2722 ??? What are ya talking about ??? The MK7.5 TCR is a real GTI that was sold regular in Europe and other Countries limited -like South Africa / Australia

    • @dont5363
      @dont5363 Рік тому

      @@ojj5643 Yes and i own one 🤩 Love from Belgium

  • @lambrosstamos4494
    @lambrosstamos4494 Рік тому

    Why VW? Why?

  • @reapersasmr5483
    @reapersasmr5483 Рік тому

    I get alot of hate but man I love my gti's , Biden and his wonderful ideas we can even charge cars but let's kill production

  • @mjspeedzone5532
    @mjspeedzone5532 Рік тому

    No VW just always kills off race cars.. just look at all the past cars. Its almost like clockwork. "Hey lets make a racecar"
    ok..
    "Now that we have 2 glorious models made lets just put it back into storage for 30 more years."
    " sounds good to me"

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      ...you're not wrong. 😥

  • @s9523pink
    @s9523pink Рік тому

    😪🤧🤕

  • @CarsMeetsBikes
    @CarsMeetsBikes Рік тому

    dude sitting in a race car saying it feels like a mark 7 lmao

    • @3for4PA
      @3for4PA Рік тому

      😩.... maybe wrong COMPARISON I getcha

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +3

      Nate was referring to the MK7 GTI TCR Racecars we raced for years, not just any ordinary Mk7 😁

  • @mikimiki195
    @mikimiki195 Рік тому

    Bet you anything Porsche had lots to do with this.

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      (puts on tinfoil hat) Tell us more

  • @superdiver.
    @superdiver. Рік тому

    Battery cars are a scam.

  • @vividvulpe9842
    @vividvulpe9842 Рік тому

    Why did VW pull the plug? Politics and $$?

    • @zeitgeist2720
      @zeitgeist2720 Рік тому +1

      Politics had nothing to do with it

    • @vividvulpe9842
      @vividvulpe9842 Рік тому +1

      @@zeitgeist2720 politics within Volkswagen, you silly

    • @lcameeno1
      @lcameeno1 Рік тому +1

      @@zeitgeist2720 yeah politics within vw you ninny

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому +3

      Our best guess is that as they are part of a much larger group, other brands (Audi, Porsche, SEAT, Lamborghini) were allowed to continue with ICE motorsport projects, but VW was moved away from this and focused on electric.

    • @vividvulpe9842
      @vividvulpe9842 Рік тому

      @@fcpeuro Understandable

  • @oooooo3231
    @oooooo3231 Рік тому

    lolz wearing a suit.

    • @fcpeuro
      @fcpeuro  Рік тому

      "Dress for the job you want, not the job you have" :) (also Nate used to drive one of our Mk7 GTI TCRs in TC America.) Check it out here! ua-cam.com/play/PLe_--lhvXud-VLMINQnox8R9nYq5Q-zOk.html

  • @TyinAlaska
    @TyinAlaska Рік тому

    Crap build quality and the Taos plus lying killed VW.