What's Next for God of War's Story?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- The story can go down one of several different paths.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
01:07 A Solo Atreus Game?
03:30 Kratos as the Main Character?
08:19 What if Kratos Stayed in Midgard?
11:26 A Prequel?
13:44 What about Sindri?
15:36 What is Santa Monica Working on Now? - Ігри
Maybe I'm alone on this but I'd like to see him return to Greece. In interviews with the director after the game came out, he kept referring to Kratos as a "re-builder." Kratos returning to Greece to undo some of the damage he's done, while confronting some of his old fellow gods (either through violence or peaceful means) that could of survived the war I think would be a really interesting angle to tackle.
I didn‘t realize how much I would love to see this right here until I just read it.
Or imagine this, Kratos returns to Greece only to find out it has been conquered by Rome, and the Roman pantheon, which as you may know, is a renewed version of the Greek one
@@sentientmustache8360 The Roman gods should be treated as their own thing while they're in the positions where the Greek pantheon once stood, much like how Roman mythology was it's own thing before it was syncretised with Greek mythology. For example, Mars, in-contrast with Ares, should be depicted as a genuinely heroic war god who fights for peace and he was originally a farmer. That would lead to an interesting story with fun conflict for Kratos in a game involving the Roman pantheon.
@@purpose6276no one said anything about time travel here lol
I think we have a winner! Best idea I’ve heard in a minute.
In Tyr’s vault for God of War, there was Egyptian treasure. GoW can pivot to Atreus’ curiosity to visit Egypt through Tyr’s guidance. This could also allow Sindri to pursue Anubis in an attempt to bring back Brok causing conflict with the Norse gods and Yggdrasil. A pissed off protector of the realm Kratos could make an end game appearance.
I was thinking something similar. Also, considering that the Greek and Egyptian worlds had contact it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine one or more Greek warriors fled their homeland when it fell into chaos and settled in Egypt, and that they'd have a personal score to settle with the Ghost of Sparta.
Atreus never met tyr...
That wouldnt work though. Its been said that each country has its pantheon and thus its own set of rules. If you die in midgard, you're going to Helheim or Valhalla, if you die in Greece you get the Underworld etc.
This means that the only afterlife Anubis has power over is the Duat
That wouldn’t make sense Atreus left Midgard before Kratos and Freya found the real Tyr. Besides, according to Mimir the Egyptian pantheon, it’s kind of different “they’re not good or evil” so you would need a really, really, *really* good reason to start slaughtering gods that seem to just be chillin in their own country💀
Brok wouldnt be in the Egyptian underworld, each realm of mythology has thier own version of afterlife. The one you die in is the one you go to.
I think staying in Midgard as its protector feels most compelling. However, I would simply use the death of Odin and the fall of Asgard to create a power vacuum that invited invasion from other pantheons, ideally Slavic or Irish (I think there was a throwaway line from Mimir that might imply he may be connected to or aware of Irish/Gaelic mythology). The story could then focus on Kratos' struggle to lead in the face of the adversity of another pantheon while flipping back and forth to Atreus' journey from being a boy to a man as he searches for the giants, saves people, makes his own mistakes, etc.
ngl I would kill for a game or series that explored /irish mythology
He’s Puck from a middommar nights dream. The Norns call him that
@@Clone6385I thought he was Scottish mythology, but we should just make it the generalized and vast category of Celtic mythology. Mimir mentions the Goodfellas/Good-fellows, he mentions the watery tart (mermaid) who hands out swords as a method of distributing governing power, he mentions Robin of Loxley but not by name, he mentions or references the tale of Macbeth by mentioning the 3 witches who wanted to overthrow the government my convincing someone they’d become king by killing some people, he mentions the Kelpie a creature from Celtic mythology and when he tells said story he says Loch not Lake which is very telling for Scottish people.
@@andrewpresley8676scottish people are celts
I was thinking the same thing, for the first time have him truly on the Defensive side of things. Instead of trying to put a stop to a pantheon he is trying to defend the one that recognizes and cherishes him.
I feel that kratos “ravaging” a new pantheon would completely undermine his development throughout the 2 games. Kratos leaving Midgard to perhaps protect Midgard from another pantheon (considering the power vacuum created through the destruction of Asgard may tempt other gods to pursue conquest) maybe through diplomacy and honorable warfare, that could work. I like the idea of Kratos continuing his journey of growth by learning how to be a leader and a true god. Idk could be cool
100% agree. I’d be SHOCKED and disappointed to see Kratos kill more gods I want him to actually do better not just say it. Glad he didn’t kill thor was upset when he kills baldur and heimdall and Odin. I think an Atreus game in the far future in another pantheon is the best option a story that leaves on a cliffhanger where he NEEDS kratos and then we pick up in the next game as kratos in another pantheon
Maybe he helps a dying one like in chains of Olympus, where the gods were on mass being useless.
Yea that would take away everything that’s happened
I think that he should be learning to help lead the 9 realms along with Freya and maybe become the new god of war and than after the fall of Asgard the Norse realms are weakened as their aren’t many gods left and another pantheon maybe Egyptian invades
There's also the whole question of what exactly the mask was, and what the realm it was tied to was. I feel like it was kind of implied that Athena "ascended" to whatever realm that Odin saw using the mask, so there could be something with that too
AND we still don't know who sounded the horn right after Atreus got sick - another Chekhov's gun hanging, still loaded. Could it be related to the mask and/or Athena's nature?
The rift is a gateway to new York where the mask was found by jim Carrey
@@EmeraldCrocodiland Heimdall told when he see Loki’s mouth move and cities are burning. Could be Loki becomes kinda a villain after all but i doubt it since Kratos in control now
@@EmeraldCrocodil hmm, I used to think it was Baldur who sounded the horn.. Might be wrong.
@@splinterquake That's interesting. Why would Baldur want to summon the snake?
I always felt the idea of Kratos being the new "All-Father" was very much implied at the end of Ragnarok. He has the genuine alliances w/ Freya and Mimir that Odin could never have due to Odin's deceptive and obsessive nature. Rebuilding and safeguarding the 9 realms has plenty to explore in my opinion.
That said, I would also love to see the transition period from post-Olympus to Faye's death.
While I wouldn't label him as an "All-Father" for a few reasons, mainly because the reputation is stained by Odin and that Kratos is not the creator of the realms as the title implies, being the greatest kind of God of War Kratos can be is where he is certainly at post-Ragnarok.
I personally don't think Kratos would even take on that type of roll. Although he was much younger in the previous games, it's pretty clear Kratos doesn't care one bit in taking a leadership role or being any type of God. He just wants his nightmares to stop
@@mattgowrie8580 I mean you see at the end, that Kratos weeps and feels invigorated when he sees the image of himself, genuinely beloved by all. I dont think he would bestow titles upon himself like All Father, but I can see him stepping up to unite the realms and work toward a new peace, before leaving the scene.
I see that as him finally seeing himself as his own man, not bound to the cycle of torment that the Greeks cursed him with. The scene with the norms really shows this because his entire life he's been convinced that you can't change your own fate (besides when he killed the sisters 😂). There probably is a real answer, but that's what makes this story so great, we can draw our own conclusions on these characters feelings n such
Don't forget, everytime he looks at his reflection, he sees the ashes of his previous Wife and Daughter stained to his skin, and I dont think he ever manages to stop his nightmares of killing them. For someone who thinks they can never escape that cycle of destruction, to then redeem himself by being a hero and save people who he cares about, it seems like his tears are his way of finally releasing that pent up emotion and hate for himself
I’ve always loved the idea of a prequel game where it starts out playing like God of War 3, but as the story progresses, you meet Faye and start to learn control, the perspective and combat changes to eventually match GoW2018.
It probably won’t happen but I can dream.
I feel like that’d be pretty hard to program.
@Falloutlover1011 it wouldn't be hard, it would be time consuming, which is arguably worse
While cool on paper, I feel like it’d be something that ends up playing a lot worse in practice because of the lack of consistency and complete change of core controls and gameplay style, which could just end up being messy and completely impractical unless done somehow flawlessly unfortunately
Me too, I honestly think God of War 3 is the most fun and replayable game in the entire series. I played GOW 2018 before GOW3, but I prefer the fast paced hack and slash gameplay of the latter. The new style fits and enhances the story though
*cope
Considering that a few of the 12 Olympians have unconfirmed fates (Aphrodite was never officially killed and could well have survived, Apollo, Artemis, Demeter, Hestia and Dionysus never appeared physically), it'd be amazing to finish up and answer remaining questions from the Greek games, not killing the returning deities, but a story where Kratos has to face actual survivors of his past and what he did to an entire pantheon and world. Maybe they track and find him in Scandinavia, leading to a new adventure of either reconciliation or at least acceptance.
Morpheus the god of dreams/nightmares that was the main villain in chains of Olympus never appeared as well. Artemis got a little cameo in god of war 1 back in 2005 and also Achillies never appeared or mentioned in the greek games which is odd.
@@altair227 exactly, there are so many deities with unconfirmed fates simply because they never actually made an appearance. however, for a story such as this to be compelling, have every character well written and still primarily feel like a norse game, I would say only the major names are needed, a small group of powerful deities to give us interesting boss fights and a good narrative, no more than around 8 returning Greeks.
Apollo and Artemis were always independent from their father. Maybe in this universe they didn't want to participate in Zeus' actions.
You mean half of them. And the audacity for some fans to claim he killed them all.. give me a break lol
Athena is coming back. Kratos had a vision of her when going back for the blades of chaos and he told her to get out of his head Athena is more important to the story in the long run. It's basic story telling like a movie putting in foreshadowing
Even though the Atreus gameplay received mixed reaction, I think those two games made fans attached enough that they would give a solo game a chance. All they have to do is to totally change the gameplay, like Kratos gameplay changed between the old trilogy and the new games. They have a lot to play with, archery , close quarter combat , shape shifting, etc. A lot of potential
literally exactly what i was thinking. this is Sony Santa Monica we are talking about lmao of course they are gonna revamp his gameplay to make it more bad ass, like you said, they can make his magic more varied and complex, he will have shapeshifting abilities and ina way this might tie into traversal perfectly too. also instead of a bow give him a melee weapon, Sony sanita Monica went crazy with gow 2 with all those iconic weapons so i'm sure it won't be that hard to give atreus a meele weapon, imgaine they blow our minds with three? I mean they are the best in the buiz i have faith in SSM
They should involve stealth gameplay, it would make sense for a trickster god to skulk about in the shadows, casting illusions to distract his enemies and catch them off-guard
I think an Atreus-only game would work best as either a big DLC like Phantom Liberty was for Cyberpunk, or a spinoff between main entries with Kratos
@@sodadrink8363 right now the rumourd are the dlc is about kratos after ragnarok which has me hyped, it means we get to see tyr and kratos in action. Atreus will probably get his own game.
@@sodadrink8363A spin off that expands the story like the Miles Morales game would be best. Imagine:
God of Mischief: A Giant's Journey
Atreus is in his journey to find the remaining Giants alongside Angrbroda(I don't know how to spell her name lol) using everything he's learned himself and from his father. The obstacles he encounters force him to improve his magic abilities using Angrbroda's help.
The story should further develop his and Angrbroda's character. Challenging them, develop a duality in their point of view that creates conflict in their relationship as they grow up, make their own mistakes, make difficult choices that have real world consequences. That's my first draft lol
It could be interesting to flip the formula on its head and have Kratos and Atreus _save_ a pantheon instead. Maybe on his journey, Atreus stumbles into a new land half-destroyed by chaos and disorder, and finds the pantheon there is so weak from the lack of worship they can't protect their land the way they used to. Kratos and Atreus can challenge those gods one by one to overcome their flaws, reconnect with their people, save their land, and take their rightful place as wiser, _better_ gods that their people deserve.
That would be neat. Could work with the Celtic gods. The Fomorians could be part of the chaotic conflict element.
Really bold move if these pantheons are being weakened by the Christian obliteration of paganism and imperialist obliteration of culture.
Very cool idea, but would that mean gods wouldn't be getting killed
Tbh i dont see how else they could do it
Well... yeah. There's only so long you can use the old formula before you run out of gods to kill. And you should not be taking 'Kratos will kill all the gods ever' as the logical continuation for the franchise after everything we've seen in the Norse saga.@@bgikuya
The Greek coming back is not too crazy as there are still a lot of minor greek gods that weren't in the original games and I'm curious how an older Aterus would react when he finds out about Kratos old family.
I think there is still room from Aterus character to grow darker as he gets older and sees more of the world. Loki's character is surposed to be more of a villian after all and maybe people might be more open to his own game. I honestly think one reason people are split on it is because some people find children annoying or might play on video games to escape children but that's just one reason of many.
I think Atreus would be shocked at first, but his father's lessons would really set in after that.
They should come back under the Roman pantheon. Like after being killed, they were reborn with no memories of the past. But they’re the same people. And this time Kratos wants to help them and prevent them from making the same mistakes.
@@EggEnjoyerand have Athena be the one manipulating the strings as the last survivor of the previous pantheon. She can instill the fear of Kratos in them and have them invade the 9 realms
@@TheBombasticFatRat That’d be a good plot
Loki is only a villain in original mythos, same as Jormy, Fenrir and Jotnar in general, all of whom are actually not villains in GoW
I personally think Kratos will be taking a bit of a retirement story wise, for now at least
In the first Trilogy, he was the slayer of Greece, the Ghost of Sparta, and he completed his quest
Then there is a break, over a century of him calming down but not finding peace. He starts 2018 by being far more neutral (rarely wishing to interact with strangers, only spurred by his son who wishes to do good)
The Norse games allowed him to grow into a genuinely good person, who tries to find ways to help and heal. With this, he passed down his training to Atreus, the next generation, and now his son is striking it out on his own.
I think a Miles Morales game would be the best compromise between sales as well as story, with Kratos making a cameo appearance for the sake of marketing and fanservice. This way, the story still remains on the same track but also giving a new focus on Atreus to win over more fans for a full solo game. The only way we'll see Kratos as a lead again is once Atreus is fully matured and the story focuses on how they interact and potential differences.
I really like this take. I can totally see their ideologies clashing in the future and being a source of conflict between the 2
I really hope we get an Atreus game and, by the end, meet Kratos again as the new (and better) all-father of the 9 Realms
Also, the Norse pantheon may be gone but it doesn't change the fact that Atreus is, by nature, the deceitful trickster god Loki. He has a darkness within him that he has yet to fully deal with.
Sounds like a horrible idea
@thelionofjudah5318 foreal, unless santa monica wants to lose profit they need to keep Kratos as the protagonist, aint nobody tryna play as atreus
I think a cool idea would be a bunch of members of different pantheons crashing into midgard, with kratos and atreus having to decide whetehr to risk the realm collapsing by trying to send them home or just killing them. Itd be kind of like the story for spider man no way home, with possiblity of a war breaking out between all these pantheons. Kratos could act as an unintentional catalyst or just be dragged into a conflict that he had no say or choice which would lead to a ton of frustration for him. He could also end being targeted by the pantheons as a whoel separate thing for his actions, since they could be seen by those ruled by the gods as a sign of rebellion by showing how theyre not as immortal as they thought.
This sees pretty good imo
Don't fall into the mcu trap, keep it simple
Ironically enough, this was the cancelled plot for God of War 3. Kratos had originally killed Zeus in the first hours of the game, and the rest of the game would be something like what you said. Gods from different pantheons invading Greece and Kratos has to fight them all.
This is bullshit storyline
Sounds like you’re mentioning something like a Napoleon situation at the end, no? Napoleon took control over France and became a _massive_ threat to _every_ European monarch, showing that he could best them all in the realm of combat - and only as a mere commoner, at that. Which is partly why damn near all of continental Europe ganged up on him.
Similar thing could happen with Kratos. Word gets out that this half-god has conquered not only his own realm, but now another, and they fear that the old Ghost of Sparta is coming to upend them all. Not realizing that Kratos has no want for conquering, or just putting him down because of the usurpation he represents, Kratos could find himself on the defensive against an entire alliance of pantheons.
As a young man coming into adulthood I think that following a young adult Atreus having an older coming of age story and dealing with the responsibilities of adulthood would be a great way to take the story. A son inheriting and building on the legacy of his father.
That game wouldn't be a god of war game though it would need to be a different title, which I'm not against
@@Lukey111 Agreed, not against it in the slightest, but it wouldn't be a God of War game, it'd be something different, something new.
@@Lukey111*SON OF DAD*
@@Lukey111 That’s dumb. Just keep calling it God of War.
@@H240909 it wouldn't be about a god of war though?
If we get a stand-alone Aterus game (which I hope is the case since it would help push the franchise forward and give Kratos the rest/peace he deserves) I think the best place for it to be placed in would be the Mythological British Isles. If you pay attention, there's been enough background information in GOW Ragnarok of that location that could be explored more in a future title. Would fit Atreus' personal quest too given how much giants play in British Folklore as well.
They could also further Mimir’s backstory. Ragnarok has already done this a great deal with the Fates calling him puck, him knowing the story of Macbeth, and recognizing the Kelpie which is prevalent in Scottish mythology, which is also what his accent is.
So with a British game we could have it take place partially in Scotland.
God of War without Kratos is no God of War. I ain't paying money to play an Awkward rebellious Teenager with a Giant finding fetish.
Or Celtic for Mimir aka Puck/Robin Goodfellow
@@gummybearchewy5444Brother in what world do you mistake a Scottish accent as being Welsh, it’s like mistaking a Southern American accent for being a Minnesotan accent
@@Hi-fd4cw sorry about that, I will edit my post.
I would personally love a game where the plot involves the Greek gods that Kratos didn’t slay coming for revenge. Like Phobos, son of Ares. Or Artemis.
It would force Kratos to truly face his past, and to show how far he’s come since then by actually facing those he’s hurt.
I like the idea of Kratos having to deal with invaders due to the power vacuum Odin left behind, be it another pantheon or some other villainous dweller of the 9 realms, for most of his life Kratos was the invader, he was the foreign monster wrecking havoc in other people's land, whatever the reasoning may be, good or bad. it would interesting to see him being the defender now that he's settled as the leader of Midgard, another way to mirror the 3rd game's villain with Kratos' past
Granted that kratos' whole character arc was about him getting a grip on his own psyche, an encounter with Lovecraft's mythos, who specialise in driving their victims mad, would be very fitting
Kratos throwing down with Cthulhu would go crazy
A prequel has technically been explored through a series of comics with Kratos, one of which involved him arriving in Egypt and meeting with Osiris who put him to a test, and Athena followed him there. So a full prequel, probably not, but it'd be interesting.
Considering that Odin is gone and Tyr is properly returned, I wouldnt be surprised if by him reaching out to reconnect with the other pantheons, another god of war from another pantheon believes it an opportunity to challenge the god that killed Odin. Possibly bringing other gods with them to seek him out.
I hope there's a "Finding the Giants" DLC with Atreus/Loki rather than a full game with him.
But mostly hope that the next GoW game is a prequel where Kratos goes back to "his old ways" with another mythology before he goes to Norse mythology. But I'd love to see an end credit scene where Kratos escapes whichever mythology it is he's in and ends up in Midgard, and finds a tree with one of Fayes marks on, and we see the Leviathan axe hit the tree, telling us Faye is behind him, and the game ends, showing what Faye said about when she first met Kratos in Midgard.
The idea of Kratos having to deal with invaders is super interesting. I personally thought of another God Of War from a different pantheon leading a war against Atreus and therefor the Giants, Kratos, etc.. Maybe Atreus' mistake you proposed could have ended in the ramification of him having gotten into quarrel with that very God Of War. Seeing Kratos as some sort of benevolent God Of War face of against this other God Of War, who would be similar to what Kratos was in GoW 3, would allegorically result in Kratos' final faceoff with his past self. Only downside to this is that there really isn't much more to explore in the Nine Realms (as far as I know).
That’s why we need to move on to new content lol i dont get peoples obsession with Norse, it’s done. EGYPT letssss gooo
The prequel story about Kratos leaves Greece to Egypt to Norse is already explored in the prequel comic of GOW 2018 (which not many fans have read it), so there's many possibilities and potential to turns it into canon game adaptation and flesh out more.
An interesting story I could see is Kratos returning to Egypt[as he did go there in a comic] to meet and learn from the gods there, to be taught how to be a better god for his people. Only for the Romans and their gods to invade and conquer like they do in real life. These gods which look and act similar to the Greek gods Kratos killed so long ago now suddenly appearing in his life like a nightmare of his past haunting him again. We had moments in the Norse games of Kratos confronting his past traumas from back in Greece but he's never really fully moved past them. A story where he's forced to confront seemingly all of the Greek gods again but with the maturity and aversion to mindless killing that he has now could really give us a truer deeper understanding of Kratos
Its so insane how underatted you are. You have me watching your videos 3 TIMES!!!
My own idea for something that would make sense for Kratos to keep facing any other panteons is if another pantheon were to invade them instead, suppossing that maybe the whole rift thing with Odin could have caught the attention of someone else. After all, he's basically the protector of the realms now, and with Atreus gone then another thing at stake would be whether his son is safe or not, maybe even jumping between characters again as they have two fronts in which they have to defend against, idk the egyptian/aztec/etc gods
I was just sat on the bus rewatching the decunstuction of Odin with my wife and we were talking about how they could possibly advance the story. I click the channel to find the Sindri episode and this drops. You absolute warlock.
Synchronization
I’m part of the “wants a solo Atreus game fanbase”, I find his character so relatable and yet fascinating thanks to his giant heritage and his kind heart. He also has many giant mysteries to uncover so I feel there’s material still.
There with you pal. They’ve written him really well imo. Can’t wait to see him on his own and how powerful he will become.
Nobody‘s gonna buy that game bruh..
playing atreus was the worst part of gow
@@T-800skynett less people will buy the og trilogy remaster more people will buy an Atreus game. Bet your paycheck on it silky.
Ehh
If they do that, lets hope they make better gameplay then the dogshit atreus sections we got in ragnarok. Hated literally every second of it
I've actually written nearly a whole story about it where Atreus hears the stories of Giants in the UK after a few years of searching all of Scandinavia for them, and with little luck there, along with a off screen complicated duo relationship with Angrboda and Thrud, goes there with Mimir (As Mimir of course left with what sounds like Unfinished business) but, as Atreus finds more giants like Finn McCool in Ireland (Who would be dour and scarred from a battle with Thor on his way out of Jotunheim) where also there's exploration of Arthurian Mythology, but it's all interrupted by Demons of Biblical Mythology who are either recruiting gods or killing them. Atreus could have a reconciliation with Sindri by forging Excalibur! That was my thought at least.
Bring on the Egyptian Gods!
I've been super intrigued about the possibility of a faye prequel. It could shed light on so many things. We could see a much younger odin and a more vicious thor. We could get an insight on faye's relationship with tyr and other Gods. And how she died and maybe even how she met kratos and a potential bossfight, this prequel could even answer who blew the horn I personally think it has alot of potential
A game with effectively 2 openings makes sense to me. A game with Atreus and Kratos's journeys being separate but effect each other until they are thrown back together. Be that in the Norse lands or a new world.
It is my theory that Thor ascended, in the same way as Athena, by standing up to Odin right before his death. We've seen many gods die but only Athena and Thor had the same "particalization" happen to them at their deaths. There are a few external lore pieces from the game that go on to feature the ascended god, namely Athena and an Egyptian god. I believe the next game is either confirmed or highly speculated to occur in Egypt. If that is the case, I really hope that the story moves on to cover the concept of ascension and I hope to see Thor make a return!
That would be interesting
Thor didn't ascend, it has already been confirmed by devs, also the theory was bogus in the first place, they didn't even have the same "particles" not only it was different, it wasn't green, not Athena ever died disintegrating into particles, she dies in a blast.
and you do not 'ascend' by standing upto someone, you do by sacrificing your life, and nor Thor deserved any of that.
I kinda want the to explore Celtic mythos I mean the Vikings invaded Ireland so like it would actually make sense for the new God of War to be a part of that. I also think it would be able to a great opportunity to dive into Mimir aka Robin Goodfellow (rewatch the Norns scene if ur confused).
wonderful as always mr.Brett
I think the idea of the Greeks fighting the Nords is a really cool one, they could even have Athena, symbolizing Kratos past, commanding them while Kratos guides the Nords. Hell, they could even make Athena have reformed the Greeks under a Roman identity and having the older gods Kratos fought fight him once more under different names. Like imagine Kratos fighting Jupiter and how much it reminds him of his dad, a lot of character growth can be there for Kratos and maybe even Atreus learning what his dad actually did
The problem with the logic of them not doing an Atreus game is that it's based on the IMO highly unlikely assumption that SMS would make a whole Atreus game and change/update/upgrade nothing about his gameplay & characterization. It's like people think an Atreus game would be just Ironwood but extended to 30hrs.
Like his gameplay was fun and alot more fluid than kratos aureus was fast and fun to play as they could add so much not to mention he can transform into a bear
Really hoping it’s Atreus expansion covering big details for his future. Going to Celtic Realm. Finding Excalibur which is just reforged Blade of Olympus( his grandfathers sword)
I would be fine with an Atreus focused game. He is still young, and learning. I think having a game where a handful of years have passed and Atreus may have grown a bit more, even getting a bit of his own beard.
I just had a idea for the next kinda small installment or side-main story .
What if… we played as Sindri and he goes almost crazy like old kratos and the end game is the player fighting and resolving his problems with Kratos and his friends and family.
Imagine it’s like two sides of the coin
In my opinion, if they decide to drop a GOW 6. I think it can go one of 3 ways: 1; Atreyus makes a grave mistake and is now in peril, causing Kratos to help his son. 2; Midguard comes under attack by another domineering and malevolent pantheon 3; Kratos returns to Greece to fix or right past wrongs.
I’d like to imagine an Egyptian god of war game could have a lot of potential maybe the story would be kratos helping Horus to defeat set? Or if it’s a game following Atreus we could get a really cool shape shifter fight against set(since one of set’s powers is that he can transform into every creature known to man as well as several creatures unknown to man)
Think the next game is going to be a prequel or spin off for sure, but after that i think a cool direction would be wear sindri plays a similar role to Aries and causes disaster similar to kratos' on to a new character in which this new character becomes enraged and decides to take it out on the new found norse Pantheon. Creating a story where the roles flip and kratos is being hunted by a godslayer. I think this is a way to further have kratos face his past self in a more physical sense as well as being able to make or break the path kratos is currently on leading to the kind of person he will be in the game after
Egypt, Japan, China, Mesoamerica, Inca, Rome, Babylon/Sumeria, South East Asia, Slavic, Indian myths.
Take your pick.
My favorite idea would be him discovering the existence of Rome and having to deal with the sorta rebirth of the enemies that caused him so much pain, and having to let go
I feel like it’d be pretty cool if they gave Atreus a darkish storyline in his standalone game 🤔 obviously not in the severity as kratos but something to kinda ground Atreus. Like you said he’s kinda a goody two shoes. Atreus obviously had traumatic experiences but he had kratos to lean on. I would love to see him deal with a traumatic experience alone. It’ll make people respect Atreus more IMO
I frankly think on his quest to rescue the giant he will not only make enemies, but also because an extremely powerful and ruthless god in order to protect his people
In original mythology I swear Eitri (Sindri in GoW) cuts out Loki’s eye, considering where they are now that’d be interesting
Been waiting for a god of war video 😊
I think the next God of War game could explore the higher plane of existence, the return of Athena, the Egyptian gods asking Kratos for alliance (Because of a greater threat), Atreus becoming an adult and Kratos becoming the leader of the nine realms who is worshiped by the people.
Pretty spot on with some of the points
These new games sound like they would all be insanely nice, hopefully one of these will be implemented into the new game's plot. This would be really cool, and I feel like this would be really nice.
What appeals to me most about the prequel concept is the possibilities to include Faye's backstory, even making her the player character in some parts like Atreus was in Ragnarok! Show both her and Kratos' journeys to become the people they are when they meet in Midgard.
One thing we don't bring up enough is the timeline. Cory Barlog said himself that God of War 2018 and Ragnarok takes place in the pre-Viking era Scandinavia which people assume to be around 530 AD. And the Greek games take place somewhere between 800 and 400 BC. So I think whatever happens in the future will follow this timeline and be somewhat based off real life events while still being fictional in its own way
Great video!!
I enjoyed the Atreus sections the first time around, but when I replayed it on Max difficulty NG+ all his sections became frustrating and tedious, with spongy enemies and little to no interesting exploration. Atreus’ gameplay and story were not the problem, so I think a game following him predominantly could work very well, so long as they increase his variety. (Don’t think it’d sell that well though)
I think it would sell perfectly well and even great if the game is outstanding. It has the brand recognition, the name value and is derived from a popular game
If you make a standalone game while reassuring people there will be future games with Kratos. And give everything into the atreus game then it could sell very well
It won’t ever sell as much as ragnarok tho but still could do very well
Being a fan of the games and lore, feel that if the Greek Pantheon coming back to destroy everything Kratos has worked for in Midgard would be a great next game. The Roman pantheon are the exact same Gods as the Greek ones (yes there’s a whole lot of history and context but let’s keep it simple) and having them come back for a revenge story seems like a great option. Just my two cents
I love that you use Twilight Princess music dawg. Random smack of nostalgia every time I watch one of your videos
I had the same idea you did of a vengeful greek army invading midgard. After the destruction of greece, the surviving greeks scattered across mythologies, all telling stories of the ghost of sparta. After hearing of the death of odin, all the pantheons get concerned for their own safety and recruit the greeks that migrated to their lands to launch a preemptive assault on midgard. Loki can play a part too, having either been captured or embittered after hearing the stories of his father in greece. I think this idea has a ton of potential, it keeps the action going without sacraficing any of kratos' growth, and even allows him to grow more, now having to handle hostile pantheons while protecting the 9 realms
This would be great and imagine they kill some of kratos friends causing him to go back into a rage filled state. and hearing of what his father is doing Atreus comes back and talks some sense into his father
A fifth option is to tell a story set in the GoW universe, with similar gameplay, but from a different character we haven’t met before. At this point, Kratos has eviscerated two pantheons. That’s gotta destabilize the others, right? Maybe an Egyptian or Aztec character dealing with the fallout, and potentially coming across Kratos and Atreus over the course of the story? That way Santa Monica Studio can create something that respects Kratos’ character growth, without giving up the satisfying gameplay that sells a bunch of PS5s.
Since God of War, 3 they've been hinting at primal Gods that predated everything. With some theories that in God of War 3 Athena was something called the Demiurge and has been recruiting Gods to fight on its behalf against its creator. This would follow the God of War's cycle, where the children and parents of Gods will eventually kill each other. The thing that Odin saw when peering with the Mask being the Demiurge tricking him to reforge the mask so it can use it. With Kratos leading those against the Demiurge and on the side if its creator.
Honestly, I would love a human/mortal uprising. Seems out there but what if the humans start to rise up against the Gods. It would follow the cycle as humans are technically the children of the Gods and they decide enough is enough and rebel. Heck if they really want Kratos to atone for his crimes, maybe have a kid he may of had with the many women he slept with hunt him down. Forcing to finally face what he did to his homeland.
If you’ve read the comics such as “Fallen God” there are some comics about the gap between GOW3 and GOW4.
I like the idea that Kratos returns to Greece, to rebuild what he has destroyed
in his childish rage with or without his son, Atreus, while finally defeating the now massively powerful Athena at last.
This to me would nicely tie the story up in a circular fashion
I sincerely hope they do Atreus as the main character. I’ve seen so many franchises stretched to absolute absurdity because they just refuse to let characters have their natural conclusions and just keep bringing them back. Kratos has had his arc and his growth, and it was great, but let the man have his ending before you drive this train of events over a cliff.
It might be cool but not yet
I liked 95% of Atreus' story. What mainly held me back from going onto his, or quickly playing through his, was because of his combat mechanics. I'm so used to having a melee combat mechanics like Kratos', Atreus solely using the bow, even with the melee mechanics it had, felt very limiting to me. I think if he had a sword of his own that Brok made for him at some point in the game to go along with Sindri's magic shield would have been a nice addition to have and switch between the bow and the sword.
I think an interesting story would be a Laufey prequel that happens in the time period before Kratos arrives at Midgard. It would be nice to step into the mysterious or Laufey and we'll be using the Leviathan Axe at some point in the story, whether from the beginning of the story or it's something we get halfway through the story.
I was so excited when Atreus got Freyr's sword only to find out it was just an assist lol
U never miss with the gow videos man
This was an amazing video
I have been curious if or when SMS would ever use the Athena plotline. She is still around which we see in gow3 and gow 2018. I definitely could see a game where Athena is the main antagonist. For example she could rope in another pantheon and convince them to attack midgard.
I would love either a Atreus game or a game away from kratos and Atreus a new person to take kratos position so we get the action but keep the kratos character growth and we can write this new character however we want I think a great pantheon to explore would be Roman to see the difference between Greek gods versus roman ones or Indian which deals with reincarnation destiny spiritual balance and it could make a great story setup
3:34 "there are a lot of mithology's and pantheons left to destroy"
Cory Barlog wanted GOW3 to be the end of the series where there are 3 other gods of war that become the horsemen of the apocalypse, kratos becoming death. I feel like centering the story on a new God would be a good idea. A clean slate
To me it seems like Atreus should be the main character in the DLC exploring a smaller pantheon cuz I feel like smtg as big as the Egyptian myths need Kratos to carry them...
Also when's Kratos analysis Pt 2 coming??
4 weeks later DLC💀
DO NOT FORGET that in the way to midgard Kratos Cnonically Had already traveled to other lands. He was in Egypt before, and even fougth and killed a giant hipo monter there.
So yes, a prequel of Kratos visiting other lands, and Egypt in the mddle, is not a posibility. Is a Must...
I'd love to see an Atreus and Angrboda duo adventure where the pair go east and end up in Poland, Russia, and the Slavic lands in their search of the giants, and have to meet and deal with Perun, Veles, Dazbog, and the other Slavic deities.
I personally think that greece is currently colonized by some other pantheon of gods (maybe Egyptian) and kratos next journey would be freeing his homeland because he'll feel guilty for what happened ( + the omega symbol means beginning and the end, it only makes sense to start and end the series in greece) of course we'll go to other pantheons throughout the jorney but the end will be in greece
It would be nice for the next game to be a mix of both scenes, it starts with kratos in midgard searching for thors soul to bring him back after seeing him try to be a better person and then hears about atreus being taken by a dragon with no wings and goes to a different mythology. When hes injured in battle he blows some sort of horn that signals for help and thor shows up. Something that could potentially sort of add more strings into the web of this story
I think a good solution to the whole "Kratos abandoning Midgard" problem would be to have Midgard serve as the "Sindri's house" of the next game. Kratos spends most of his time in Egypt/Rome/Mesoamerica etc, but he can still meet his allies, explore around, and do side quests in Midgard. Maybe even have a few story quests take place there for good measure
In the 2018 game there was some heavy hinting/references to Egypt and I am on board for that.
A game I would like to see for the future is a prequel game of Faye, because it has a lot of potential when it comes to finally shedding some light on the most subtlety mysterious character in the Norse games Faye. There's a lot of fan theories out there about her past but I still feel like there is not enough attention on her character. My personal theory could also relate to a potential story line that could intrigue the player base for an Atreus game, because I believe that Faye is the daughter of Odin and may have been the one to have killed her and Thor's mother only for Thor to cover it up and make it look like the evidence was pointing to him. A game that centers around that could also give some needed Darkness to Atreus and his character that the fans can grab on too.
Another idea would be a spinoff game where the main protagonist is either freya or thrud or angrboda. It would go to either the past or future depending on the main protagonist.
If it was freya the story would be about her life with her brother and the vanir, the war between the aesir and the vanir, her life in asgard, her relationship with baldur before the curse and how she ended in midgard. It would also shine light on many other things. Like how did they come to the agreement of her marrying odin and just how happy she was before he revealed his true colours. It would also show what her relationships were with the other aesir gods. We could see what her relationship with thor was, her relationship sif, her relationship with tyr, her relationship with magni and modi (that is if they were already born at that time), her relationship with heimdall (even if it was a bad one), and with all the other gods. It would also see what baldur was truly like before the whole spell incident. We would also see events like the one with hrimthur and the stone wall, the situation with thrym, and alot more. We would also have things revealed like what freyr said at her wedding and how she met faye. We would also see like how she went to the norns to learn of baldur's fate and how odin exiled her. And how she met chaurli.
If it was thrud the story would be about her journey to becoming a valkyrie and her finding her own adventure. We would also have flashbacks of her relationship with magni and modi. We might be running into other gods, but one thing is for certain: we would see her making a much better use for mjolnir.
And finally we have angrboda. Her story would probably be about what she was doing during the god of war events. We would see what she was doing before she met atreus, what she did after atreus left her to go back to kratos and what she did after giving the marbles to atreus. We would see what finally made her go back and help atreus after she said that her role was done. We would se what she did offscreen in the events of ragnarok. We would also know what her backstory is.
Bonus: if it wouldn't be one of these three then it would someone else. Someone who we only saw in flashbacks. Someone who had more of a narrative presence in the game. Someone important to kratos and atreus. And that someone would be faye. It would be really cool to play as faye and know more about her. We would now her life in jotunheim, we would know her her battle with thor, we would know how she met kratos, and most of all...how she died. It would be really great to play as faye. I dont know about you guys but i would love to see her battle with thor. It's been in my head for so long, we would see just how much like kratos she was when she was enraged. And we would see how she fought kratos. Imagine that: being able to have a boss foght against kratos. That would be really cool if you ask me.
Whichever of these would happened would have one thing in common. They would change alot of our prespective on the other character and make some scenes more emotional or tragic or sadder. Like freya's story would make freyr's death sadder and his asking for forgivness more emotional and baldur's story more tragic. Thrud's story make her more sympathetic sense it would show how she felt about her brothers death (if she had a good relationship woth them) and angrboda's story would be alot clearer and make her more likable.
As for faye, we would have more detail on her character and her story. And we would know even more just how much her death effected kratos
5:15 i feel like this is the right prediction, afterall a quote from atreus reading the writing on the mask is "this isnt from the nine realms " so it possible he would wonder out far enough to find a place where another mythology is rulling
I think the most compelling direction for the story to go is Atreus becoming a man who’s made mistakes and become cruel and merciless from his journey and conquering a pantheon. Kratos traveling to reunite with his son and finding a man he doesn’t recognize and creating new alliances and freeing gods and dieties who have had to submit to Atreus in order to attempt and save him
We need that prequel for sure.
I’d like to see Kratos have to go back to the violent monster when he visits Egypt to even survive.
Apparently there are comics covering a snippet of Kratos' journey beyond Greece where he actually ends up in Egypt. I'm not sure if it's canon, but maybe they could take the opportunity to adapt and expand it. Hell, we could maybe have that pantheon slaughtering game in Egypt before the events of the Norse saga.
Little few hour spinoffs where you play as Baldur/Thor where you experience deeper relationship with Odin would be awesome.
Can’t wait to watch this
One option I think would be interested in being made would be Kratos going back to Greece to fix what he had broken. This could be like you said Greece finding him and that makes him head back, or they could take Atreus and he has to go save him, or what I think would be the most interesting is him hearing of an issue there, gods ravaging Sparta or something and he willingly goes to save them.
Tbh the egypt setting would be really interesting all things considered + the egyptian mythology window is already open in the GOW series ( I think he had a dialogue during one of the earlier games pre 2018 reboot with a goddess from the egyptian pantheon)
Crazy idea, The Greek Pantheon is reborn as the Roman Pantheon. Atreus has found his way there and Kratos is forced to find him but also deal with his past. Can even make it so the Roman gods have no memory of who Kratos is. Imagine being able to tell the original story through a more nuanced story craft. I agree idk how much more Kratos can grow as a lead, but it would certainly be a good story if that growth was tested. Imagine Kratos coming to find Atreus working with Mars, The confusion he would feel knowing this isnt really Ares the internal struggle not to repeat his past as they may threaten his new family. This could also have a lot to do with how all the pantheons fit together how a pantheon could be reborn, How the Greek Roman Norse and Egyptian gods can all be real in this universe.
personaly i would love to see a game about atreus. i love kratos as much as the next guy but Ragnarök really felt like a perfect end for his tale and i dont want to risk it ending up like say the simpsons. maybe have loki going to Greece, meeting the surviving Olympians, and learn in detail exactly what his farther did
If they do actually create an Atreus stand alone game I think it would make sense for him to use blades like thorfinn from Vinland saga the combat because his mother gifted him a knife as well as paying homage to his viking heritage.
Wow great ideas. 😊
You know what should be next for the GOW media.
Finally getting part 2 of Kratos' character transformation video
I've heard a theory floated around that Atreus could start falling into his role as the trickster Loki while traveling and end up pissing off the wrong pantheon, forcing Kratos to intervene so he isn't killed.
Kratos mentioned seeing the "River Kingdom" which is Egypt.
There will be another GOW
It makes sense for Kratos to go to Egypt. Tyr the previous god of war traveled to many places, Egypt was one of those places and now they have oppressive gods and are in need of Kratro's help, so he goes there trying the diplomatic approach due to his personal growth and is met with tremendous resist because of his reputation for slaying gods. It's possible that Atreus goes there in his search for the lost giants and he makes bad decisions and mistakes like you said, now Kratos must confront and edgier more grown up version of his son , while also liberating Egypt.
To elaborate on one of the possibilities, during the apocalypse Kratos left behind Some of the gods from the Egyptian pantheon move in to help. Maybe even start fighting a turf war with the Russian pantheon. Once that's all settled The Greeks do seek out vengeance. I personally like the idea of the Egyptian pantheon help in some way if only to see Anubis with his scale judging Kratos and having the scale break. However you could also have the Russian pantheon come along with Chernabog.
I do believe the other options would be better but this seems fun
10:22
Now that’s a great idea for God of War 6.
There was a comic if I remember right that clearance up some of the inbetween of Greece to midgar. Including his short trip through Egypt. If I remember right, he isn't welcome there, so if he returned, they would be hostile towards him which might be interesting
I think the prequel angle is most likely. You can undo the growth his character has had and experience the early game thrills without it seeming contrived.
Great video. Your voice and writing are too good for a channel with Fat in the title. Also I want Kratos vs Jesus.