What I've been trying to figure out is at what point did they convince themselves that it's ok to murder?..there's nothing godly about murder in any religion..come on murder charges!..
At the point in which Lori decided JJ was a burden to her, but she still wanted to collect that $6k/month for him. And when she realized Tylee was going to soon be receiving a lump sum of money for her fathers death, and Lori wanted that money as well. I think Tylee was (in Loris eyes) getting a bit of an attitude with her. I think she had caught onto her mothers ways, was tired of her mom saying she was a zombie, realized her mom was a murderer because she witnessed what happened with Charles and I think she felt guilt for lying for her mom and became resentful toward Lori....so Lori decided it'd be best for many reasons if Tylee just wasn't alive anymore. I mean, Tylee was almost 17, so she could've easily taken care of herself if Lori just didn't want to deal with her anymore. She was already receiving money for her dads death and she could've worked too. But if she was alive then Lori couldn't get that lump sum and spend it. That's why she was found with Tylees bank card when arrested in Hawaii. That money was direct deposited im sure, and she probably received payments every month til she turns 18 and then that's when she'd get the remainder of it. Calling them zombies and saying zombies had to die was just how she justified it in her mind and distanced herself from it all. Who in their right mind believes in zombies?? Not even Lori is that crazy....she just had to have an excuse to kill them.
It was part of their "religious beliefs" that they were "saving" the souls of JJ and Tylee, form the zombies who took over their bodies. In reality, they just wanted everyone who was "hindering them" out of the way. Hey, it's a lot of work to lead 144,000 back to Christ. AND, it apparently costs lots of money. That's why Lori had her husband(s) killed for the insurance money. You can have any belief you want, but you're still subject to the laws of mankind.
Chad Daybell, the gifted link with God above. He makes portals, has insight like no others, the leader of the 144,000. What a brave, upstanding pillar of strength, and can’t you just feel all his power, gifts, strength and insight as he talks with his new wife on the phone?.......OK, I may have stretched things a bit....pure POS.
I’m going to guess he doesn’t normally mumble or have odd pauses in his speech... the way he’s speaking sounds very nervous and distracted. He’s watching them search in anticipation and can hardly respond to her questions. An innocent person would react differently and probably say things like “Why on earth are they searching my property” or something along those lines. He knew what they were going to find and he knew he was done.
It blows my mind how brazen, arrogant and overly confident Chad Daybell is. You'd think he would be shaking in his boots. And Kay and Larry's Woodcock's is of humility and gratitude. The comparison in their attitudes is starking
I am just thoroughly enjoying watching Chad sit there and suffer! I love it I love it ! You can tell he truly thought he was on top of the world and untouchable. He was never a man of God. I can't believe anyone ever fell for his false teachings and bought his so-called books.
Chad says they’re searching “the property.” Lori knows exactly what’s going on she had a heads up. “What property” would’ve been a more innocent response. Instead we get rhetorical questions from Lori, still playing the game. Chad knows it’s over and this is their final goodbye.
Evil Lorie was making that call from jail ! Wasn't she? They knew they were being recorded, bad dumbbell sounded non coherent a result of times up, drunk, depressed, caught out,. 😣😣😣
Gosh - I wish the audio was better. It was difficult to hear the witness as well as the call between Chad and Lori. Subtitles couldn't be captured either. I'm eager to see the entire outcome and how Lori & Chad react to the consequences that are dealt.
If Chad believed all the religious nonsense he sprouted he'd be alot more confident than he is right now.He knows he's not a visionary for God ,maybe Satan but certainly not not God
I thought I heard the word "kids" too. He mumbles so it is difficult to understand. He seems so nonchalant about it all. His attitude is as if he is watching a tractor plow a field. (Yeah, it went down to the end and is turning back to plow another row. Snorrre) It is no big deal to have cops, cadaver dogs, FBI agents swarming his back yard. Yeah, happens to him everyday. Smh
Kids&cats sociopaths aren’t good at responding to situations without others around to prompt how they should behave appropriately. He’s got no guide on how to act here so he has gone blank.
I’m guessing Chad by the way his lawyer is working it. He’s going to make Alex and Lori out to be a Bonnie and Clyde when really its Lori and Chad, Alex was just their tool. I bet he’s going to pull out an incest card. For all we know (only God Knows) Lori killed both kids and Alex and Chad did the rest. Alex may have done the killings but I’m starting to think it was Lori and Im starting to think Alex got caught up in it. She’s allegedly already killed a couple of husbands and probably helped with Tammy so she would be jaded to murder but Alex being an uncle may have initially cared more about the kids and just worked with Chad to get rid of the children’s bodies. And maybe Lori drugged Alex because she was afraid he’d talk or he really did die of an aneurism or brain blood clot from the stress of his actions?
@@joannemurdock7899 Charles wasn't there son,he was Kay's brother,her son is jjs dad but because of drugs they couldn't bring jj up so Charles and Lori adopted him when jj was7mths old
Poor Larry and Kay have to sit there and stare at the back of that monsters head and hold back killing him like he did their grand children. Through hearing all of this good for them for keeping their composure so they can see Chad and Lori get served the justice Tylee and JJ deserve!
What made him think he can impersonate and play God? Well the world didn't end the whole world knows their guilt and they are both deep in stinky doodoo!!! Praying for justice for Tammy Charles and the children to the very maximum punishments.
I think when Lori pauses when asking if they are ceasing things again she was trying to catch herself from saying something incriminating. Either that, or she was thinking they were toast.
To the parents of chad and the parents of Lori.. I really wish you had done a better job. And now that you know what your children have done, please begin making amends by f*ing forcing them to come to grips with reality and confess. It’s so idiotic for them to try and pretend they are innocent! Just confess and begin making reparations, serve your time you know you are where you belong. Begin the healing by admitting your crimes.
You know Marianne, that would require spiritual strength to face their heinous deeds and repent. I see them pretty weak with delusions of grandeur. Lori is a narcissist full of pride.
@@tracikonrad3605 true but their parents too should know right from wrong and know better than to encourage the wrong. I don't know much about Chad's parents but Lori's mother specifically said she spoke to JJ in October when he had been dead since September.
Chad maybe feeling sick to his stomach each time he hears those phone recordings of him and Lori. Is Chad reminiscing when Lori asked him, “what can I do for you.”
"Pin number"? So a personal identification number number? A number to access your personal identification number? Is there a pin number number? Pinception?
When I first heard Chad’s voice on this phone call all I could think about was HOW IN THE WORLD 🌎 does this guy have ANY FOLLOWERS!!!! He sounds drunk 🥴 I wouldn’t follow his ass even I was his shadow 😳
Brenda Brandstatt Oh it was? So there were two apartments in her name right? I’ll bet Chad sprung for them as a bribe for Alex to move there and do the dirty deeds but he had no job and couldn’t afford furniture so he just ended up taking JJ’s room and poor JJ ended up on the floor!
Lori rented it for her dear brother Alex so he could take the children there and murder them, pack them up and drive them to Chad's property for burial.
Chad....they're at the property, Means will send over your death warrant. Ouch! You're so f@cked HypnoToad! Are they seizing stuff? ..AGAIN. Terrible save there lorrr 😄😆😂
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1 (KJV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 (KJV)
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How do all you burnouts not think that Lori’s brother killed the children as he killed her husband? Did you ever think that and that he put the bodies on fat Chads property that’s why the pings of his cell phone there? And maybe Lori didn’t know about the bodies there on the property but fat Chad figured out they were there and didn’t want the heat of them being there so he was going to move them? And Lori didn’t know about it until afterwards, and that’s why she’s involved as she didn’t want to lose fat Chad and fat Chad didn’t want to lose Lori as he can’t get better so he didn’t want her to find out her kids were out in the ground on his property by her brother that’s dead now and that’s how fat Chad is involved? Doesn’t take a scientist to figure it out.... Burnouts...
Who do you mean? The Grandfather who has asthma and is having a problem breathing at all or the woman cop wiping down the witness chairs who has to look a little upside down to do it or who ? Think it out yard!
To the camera 🎥 person giving us those great shots of JJ’s grandparents breathing down Chads neck thank you 🙏 🙏🙏
Right .Kay Woodcock is a pillar of strength. 🥀
I bet the Woodcocks wish they were mountain lions and Chad was a snack.
@@HDnursepractitioner lol
Chad’s face listening to the phone call 🤣he’s reliving those moments that day when he knew it was coming to a close for him
When Chad says ‘They’re searching the property and Mark Means will be talking to you’ he’s letting her know they’re fu@ked.
Exactly
I think Chad mumbled on purpose on that audio to not be understood well knowing he might be taped
What I've been trying to figure out is at what point did they convince themselves that it's ok to murder?..there's nothing godly about murder in any religion..come on murder charges!..
If only that were true! Try googling “murder religion.” There’s a long and storied history between those two things.
This is common across all religions and cultures.
At the point in which Lori decided JJ was a burden to her, but she still wanted to collect that $6k/month for him. And when she realized Tylee was going to soon be receiving a lump sum of money for her fathers death, and Lori wanted that money as well. I think Tylee was (in Loris eyes) getting a bit of an attitude with her. I think she had caught onto her mothers ways, was tired of her mom saying she was a zombie, realized her mom was a murderer because she witnessed what happened with Charles and I think she felt guilt for lying for her mom and became resentful toward Lori....so Lori decided it'd be best for many reasons if Tylee just wasn't alive anymore. I mean, Tylee was almost 17, so she could've easily taken care of herself if Lori just didn't want to deal with her anymore. She was already receiving money for her dads death and she could've worked too. But if she was alive then Lori couldn't get that lump sum and spend it. That's why she was found with Tylees bank card when arrested in Hawaii. That money was direct deposited im sure, and she probably received payments every month til she turns 18 and then that's when she'd get the remainder of it. Calling them zombies and saying zombies had to die was just how she justified it in her mind and distanced herself from it all. Who in their right mind believes in zombies?? Not even Lori is that crazy....she just had to have an excuse to kill them.
Have you heard of the Crusades?
It was part of their "religious beliefs" that they were "saving" the souls of JJ and Tylee, form the zombies who took over their bodies.
In reality, they just wanted everyone who was "hindering them" out of the way. Hey, it's a lot of work to lead 144,000 back to Christ. AND, it apparently costs lots of money. That's why Lori had her husband(s) killed for the insurance money.
You can have any belief you want, but you're still subject to the laws of mankind.
Chad Daybell, the gifted link with God above. He makes portals, has insight like no others, the leader of the 144,000. What a brave, upstanding pillar of strength, and can’t you just feel all his power, gifts, strength and insight as he talks with his new wife on the phone?.......OK, I may have stretched things a bit....pure POS.
Geeeesh lol he really is ....the POS one.
Made me smile.
I totally felt his power as he fell asleep / daydreamed/ rested his eyes/ tried to portal himself out of the courthouse
He was trying to jedi mind trick us all through the screen. I felt his powers...
@@xIIIQueenOfSwordsIIIx lol 😂😂😂
I’m going to guess he doesn’t normally mumble or have odd pauses in his speech... the way he’s speaking sounds very nervous and distracted. He’s watching them search in anticipation and can hardly respond to her questions. An innocent person would react differently and probably say things like “Why on earth are they searching my property” or something along those lines. He knew what they were going to find and he knew he was done.
Yep that's why he drove up when they found the kids and they chased him
His mumbling is another big clue that he is not some translated being or high priest that his sad pathetic self pretended to b.
If they truly believe what they did was on God’s orders....then stand up and own it
Debbie VanLeuven Exactly!
What i find interesting is how they both sound like children when they talk to each other.... kind of creepy
They are creepy! If you can murder your own children you are creepy for sure 🤬🤬
Oh wow, Chad's face went like a beetroot as soon as the phone call started playing.
It reminded me of Chris Watts face when he watched his neighbour's video
@@antoniamills3000 me too.
It blows my mind how brazen, arrogant and overly confident Chad Daybell is. You'd think he would be shaking in his boots. And Kay and Larry's Woodcock's is of humility and gratitude. The comparison in their attitudes is starking
I am just thoroughly enjoying watching Chad sit there and suffer! I love it I love it ! You can tell he truly thought he was on top of the world and untouchable. He was never a man of God. I can't believe anyone ever fell for his false teachings and bought his so-called books.
Chad says they’re searching “the property.” Lori knows exactly what’s going on she had a heads up. “What property” would’ve been a more innocent response. Instead we get rhetorical questions from Lori, still playing the game. Chad knows it’s over and this is their final goodbye.
She told and already turned state’s evidence
Evil Lorie was making that call from jail ! Wasn't she? They knew they were being recorded, bad dumbbell sounded non coherent a result of times up, drunk, depressed, caught out,. 😣😣😣
she tries to deflect with "the house right now?" as if she doesn't know it's the yard. they full well know they're recorded.
All respect to the grandparents for keeping their cool. My heart is broken for your loss. Your angels are save in the arms if Jesus.
You know the two guys up in the tiers on the Muppets? He looks like one of them, a Muppet!
I was thinking more like the "yup-yup" aliens from sesame street but definitely a Muppet too.
@@theclawsoncrew13 lol
@therealz 360z no you're not a pervert, my mind wanders in the gutter right along side you hahahaha
What can I do for you???? His voice is guilty she’s trying to act normal as can be
Not much she can do from prison..
That judges heart must be breaking sitting there and his emotions have to be neutral. That is going to be the hardest job for a judge
Gosh - I wish the audio was better. It was difficult to hear the witness as well as the call between Chad and Lori. Subtitles couldn't be captured either.
I'm eager to see the entire outcome and how Lori & Chad react to the consequences that are dealt.
HappyMV There is a subtitled version of this phone call,on UA-cam, by True Crime Recap.
Awfully funny you can hear Lori but not Chad. Do you think Chads slimey lawyer paid someone off to do that?
She says "so call later?" He says "I don't know". Aka probably not, I'll be in jail when they find the kids dead in my yard.
The one call that tells it all.... guilt in that silence
If i had to bet, i'd bet that sooner or later chad or lori will cut a deal and flip on the other one.
P Carter I hope so 🤞
I hope so
You don't legally have to testify against your spouse. I think that's why they got married
The should be closed caption and a written hand out. Defense should have been prepared for this.
If Chad believed all the religious nonsense he sprouted he'd be alot more confident than he is right now.He knows he's not a visionary for God ,maybe Satan but certainly not not God
He's just a big fraud,his books should be taken off the shelves
The church isn't putting up bail for lori
One part of the call that is inaudible it sounds like Chad is saying “their bringing up the kids”
I thought he said “dead animals and the kids” why has nobody else noticed this but us
I thought I heard the word "kids" too. He mumbles so it is difficult to understand. He seems so nonchalant about it all. His attitude is as if he is watching a tractor plow a field. (Yeah, it went down to the end and is turning back to plow another row. Snorrre) It is no big deal to have cops, cadaver dogs, FBI agents swarming his back yard. Yeah, happens to him everyday. Smh
Kids&cats sociopaths aren’t good at responding to situations without others around to prompt how they should behave appropriately. He’s got no guide on how to act here so he has gone blank.
I'm deaf in one ear and I hear digging up the kids. Without a doubt, he mentions them.
i hear "dead animals...and the kids" very clearly
Pray 🙏 to get away with murder? Yup. 😒👎
Is he a MUMBLER or is the recording system criminally inadequate?
It would be nice if they analyze the recordings & clear them up a bit. If that's possible?
Wonder who’s going to turn states evidence first Chad or Lori?
I’m guessing Chad by the way his lawyer is working it. He’s going to make Alex and Lori out to be a Bonnie and Clyde when really its Lori and Chad, Alex was just their tool. I bet he’s going to pull out an incest card. For all we know (only God Knows) Lori killed both kids and Alex and Chad did the rest. Alex may have done the killings but I’m starting to think it was Lori and Im starting to think Alex got caught up in it. She’s allegedly already killed a couple of husbands and probably helped with Tammy so she would be jaded to murder but Alex being an uncle may have initially cared more about the kids and just worked with Chad to get rid of the children’s bodies. And maybe Lori drugged Alex because she was afraid he’d talk or he really did die of an aneurism or brain blood clot from the stress of his actions?
I think they're both so delusional I'd be surprised if either of them turn on one another, but there's always hope..
I believe Chad. When he realizes how prison life is really gonna be like. He will be the first. Hes such a coward thumb sucking baby.
Kim Wagoner I agree with you
Rebbie Swift they’re both psychos for sure
Kay and Larry are honoring there son by using his insurance money to get JUSTICE for ALL 🙏🙏
Prayers for Kay And Larry grieving their son and now the beloved grandchildren 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@joannemurdock7899 Charles wasn't there son,he was Kay's brother,her son is jjs dad but because of drugs they couldn't bring jj up so Charles and Lori adopted him when jj was7mths old
Charles and Kay are siblings
Kay’s brother.
@@joannemurdock7899 Charles was Kay's brother
Poor Larry and Kay have to sit there and stare at the back of that monsters head and hold back killing him like he did their grand children. Through hearing all of this good for them for keeping their composure so they can see Chad and Lori get served the justice Tylee and JJ deserve!
This judge is awesome...absolutely the best that I've seen online.
What made him think he can impersonate and play God? Well the world didn't end the whole world knows their guilt and they are both deep in stinky doodoo!!! Praying for justice for Tammy Charles and the children to the very maximum punishments.
I think when Lori pauses when asking if they are ceasing things again she was trying to catch herself from saying something incriminating. Either that, or she was thinking they were toast.
Yes choosing her words so carefully knowing they were definately being taped!
I thought she said "seizing stuff "
@@antoniamills3000 That was my bad I didn't realize my error 😅
@@loric1580 i agree that she (and he!)realised they were toast... i wanted to say "prayers won't help you now!"
Is Daybell's lawyer a part of his cult??
11:38 digging the animals... and the kids!
WHAT!! I didn't hear that
I heard "the kids " for sure.
I think I heard "they're searching for evidence (pause) of (pause) of (pause) the kids". What a mumble!
I heard kills... i could be wrong, such a bad audio...
To the parents of chad and the parents of Lori.. I really wish you had done a better job. And now that you know what your children have done, please begin making amends by f*ing forcing them to come to grips with reality and confess. It’s so idiotic for them to try and pretend they are innocent! Just confess and begin making reparations, serve your time you know you are where you belong. Begin the healing by admitting your crimes.
You know Marianne, that would require spiritual strength to face their heinous deeds and repent. I see them pretty weak with delusions of grandeur. Lori is a narcissist full of pride.
When you become adult and have children you know right from wrong this no fault of parents and raising
@@tracikonrad3605 true but their parents too should know right from wrong and know better than to encourage the wrong. I don't know much about Chad's parents but Lori's mother specifically said she spoke to JJ in October when he had been dead since September.
Can't hold parents responsible for their adult children's choice's...
Unfair to hold parents or family members accountable for their actions.
It baffles me that adults do not possess the necessary brain power to understand how a microphone works.
Someone looks sad, busted! Chad looks like he is about to cry when he hears Lorie's voice.
Lock him up and throw away the 🔑 key!!
I need a transcript of that call.....
Love this judge. Do you think Chad is rating these witnesses ?
Chad maybe feeling sick to his stomach each time he hears those phone recordings of him and Lori. Is Chad reminiscing when Lori asked him, “what can I do for you.”
Brain injury ,, Chad's near death experience and seeing the second coming was drug induced hallucinations
Was B.S.!
Careful his attorney may use that hahaha
Robots on Mars and can't hear a jail house call. Sooooo Frustrating.
Q: are they searching?
A: they're putting the nails in my coffin :(
Chad is red and his lawyer
Dumbbell reminds me of The Dark Lord Chuckles
They are digging up the kids. Did I tell you how much I love you, and please don’t drop the dime on me when you find I ripped apart Tylee.
They are guilty just put them in jail forever
The adds r so much loudr than video ..why oh whyyy :(((
Can't hear a word
"Pin number"? So a personal identification number number? A number to access your personal identification number? Is there a pin number number? Pinception?
🤣😂🤣
I've always heard it referred to as PIN number. Even at the bank, they use "PIN number" . You are right it sounds odd.
@@kidscats3952 It's just a joke mate. A case this dark needed a little light, even if it's a joke about a tautology.
Thanks to @truecrimeloser Chad will forever be known as ‘Sad Toad’.
Too many interruptions ie.advertising. stop it, mot worth all thst time.
You tube is trying to fet customers to PAY for uninterrrupted videos, thus the 20 ads per 10 minute video! 🙃
Why was this officer removed from the witness stand during the hearing??
He was finished his testimony and they were just waiting for the technical people to fix the problem.
Chad is such a gump!!
When I first heard Chad’s voice on this phone call all I could think about was HOW IN THE WORLD 🌎 does this guy have ANY FOLLOWERS!!!! He sounds drunk 🥴 I wouldn’t follow his ass even I was his shadow 😳
I love you so much. Translation: I am a child murderer.
Lori: what can I do for you?
Chad : confess to everything and set me free !
Lori : ha ha fool !
Hello Liutenant....meow. how are you not a captain by now on looks alone?
I couldn't even hear it... all I heard was garble...
Why didn't Dumbbell stop them with his super powers?
Look at Chad's face go red!
Very sad indeed, but who is the real manipilator here?
I have been wondering that too..😔
Satan
@@lifeaccordingtotheo9643 You’re right about that!
Lori is the manipulator and Alex is the murderer I don't know what day bill is
@@stacyhenry5578 Daybell rated her kids dark, meaning they had to die in order to save them, he is as guilty as the Cox siblings.
Chad Dingbat is a dufesss Lori used him too like so many people she destroyer
5:32 Wilmore states "calls" as in multiple calls.
He sounds a little bit slow, like he is autisitic or something
Honestly, I thought the same thing. Somethings up with him!
I'm thinking meds.
I thought the same thing.
I thought that very same thing too! Actually when I heard him on the phone call the very first time I thought that he was drunk 🥴
DO NOT INSULT AUTISTIC PEOPLE.
Why isn’t Daybell wearing a mask?
Did Alex have a job? Who paid for his empty apartment apparently he could not furnish?
I find it strange that apt 107 was in Lori's name
Brenda Brandstatt Oh it was? So there were two apartments in her name right? I’ll bet Chad sprung for them as a bribe for Alex to move there and do the dirty deeds but he had no job and couldn’t afford furniture so he just ended up taking JJ’s room and poor JJ ended up on the floor!
He was a truck driver.
@@idontcare1481 actually, the apt Lori was in (175) was in Alex' name! This case has so many weird details!
Lori rented it for her dear brother Alex so he could take the children there and murder them, pack them up and drive them to Chad's property for burial.
Dumbbell looks like he's pouting.
Different tie
He looks like a toad, cannot even look at that!!!
I cannot understand a single word that dude said!
Chad....they're at the property, Means will send over your death warrant. Ouch! You're so f@cked HypnoToad!
Are they seizing stuff? ..AGAIN. Terrible save there lorrr 😄😆😂
What’s with his giblet ?
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1 (KJV)
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 (KJV)
How do all you burnouts not think that Lori’s brother killed the children as he killed her husband? Did you ever think that and that he put the bodies on fat Chads property that’s why the pings of his cell phone there? And maybe Lori didn’t know about the bodies there on the property but fat Chad figured out they were there and didn’t want the heat of them being there so he was going to move them? And Lori didn’t know about it until afterwards, and that’s why she’s involved as she didn’t want to lose fat Chad and fat Chad didn’t want to lose Lori as he can’t get better so he didn’t want her to find out her kids were out in the ground on his property by her brother that’s dead now and that’s how fat Chad is involved? Doesn’t take a scientist to figure it out.... Burnouts...
for goodness sake. wear rhe mask correctly. so annoying
Here's Karen!! Shut up!! Wear your mask and it will protect you. Don't complain about a mask.
Who do you mean? The Grandfather who has asthma and is having a problem breathing at all or the woman cop wiping down the witness chairs who has to look a little upside down to do it or who ? Think it out yard!
HE REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE A TOAD. A KILLER TOAD.