My husband hasn’t committed physical adultery but emotional and in his mind by looking at and having internet relationships. I forgive him but he is not saved so my prayer first is for his salvation and healing and restoration of our marriage. It sure is hard when I know he isn’t submitted to God. But I believe God is powerful enough to change his heart and use our marriage for His glory.
Of course, pray for this spiritual redemption. Assuming that you married your husband knowing that he was an unbeliever, why did you make yourself unequally yoked? That is literally the equivalent of jumping out of a plane without a parachute, and expecting to land unharmed. Especially if he is unrepentant, and is continuing in his lust, he will only escalate the situation. Are you surprised that such an incident has occurred? I do not know your marriage, and where it went wrong. Maybe you both were atheists, when you married. And in the process, you came to Christ. For that, I say is a delicate situation. Naturally, you ought not to abandon your unbelieving husband. Financial security, shelter, possible children, and above all commitment to following scripture. But do not permit his foibles, and make you sin. Confront him, and stand your ground.
@@InvokingTexan I don't think your first paragraph of that is very helpful. They're already married? Why even bring up the unequally yoked? Not helpful. Its like saying I told you so. I don't know if she's offended but I'm offended for her. You don't kick someone when they're down. That is NOT of the Holy Spirit.
Thank u for your comments I was a little offended but you are right at the time we married we were both going to church and I was hopeful that he would seek God like I am but he hasn’t yet. But miracles can happen. Through all this I have learned that I was not a respectful and submissive wife. That’s not to excuse his actions but I know God wasn’t happy with how I was so He is using this situation to change me. As far as I know he has stopped but with social media the way it is it’s hard to tell. I trust God to bring to light anything I need to know and until He does I want to be a gentle quiet spirit that is precious to our Lord. Love believes the best and never fails I get to learn and practice this.
@@somethinggood9267 Because scripture literally says do not be unequally yoked. It says do not marry unbeliever, when you are a Christian. By Karen's own admission, she said they went to church hoping that her husband would seek Christ. What!? She knew what she was getting into, and went through with marrying him. That is insane, and no shock whatsoever that he is seeking out an emotional affair. It will get worse, as long as he is lost. Seriously, what is the matter with you guys? I get the other side of the argument. If the unbelieving spouse is willing to stay in the marriage, let them. If not, let them go. And yeah, this is a situation of "I told you so". This information of heartache, and ruin in such a marriage has been available for two thousand years. God said it: I am just repeating what He said. Get offended all you want, but scripture is scripture. Rebuke, and admonishment is a good thing. Sorry that you are a bleeding heart, Michelle, but I am not.
My friends mom told me about her husband cheating, and she was filling a divorce, I shared this video with her and it opened a window for forgiveness for her! Not only that it has increased my faith in Jesus because I witnessed how his word helped! Praise God!
Please pray for my marriage because I committed adultery twice over a 10 year period. I’ve since repented and re dedicated my life to Christ and have not swayed back to the old life in 21 months. That being said my wife has no desire for our marriage to continue and we’ve been separated for the last 21 months and have 3 beautiful daughters. I’m trusting God for a miracle but she believes that biblically she has an out for divorce. Not sure why she’s waiting 21 months but still. Please pray for total healing and restoration of our marriage and family. Please.
@@johnmagee3292 let's pray now! Lord I pray for Anthony and his family, I know we are sinful and children of wrath but you promise in your word that if we truely repent and ask you for forgiveness that you will restore our land. I pray right now that you restore this family Lord and recenter it on your precious son, in the almighty name of Jesus It is done
Please pray for my marriage because I committed adultery twice over a 10 year period. I’ve since repented and re dedicated my life to Christ and have not swayed back to the old life in 21 months. That being said my wife has no desire for our marriage to continue and we’ve been separated for the last 21 months and have 3 beautiful daughters. I’m trusting God for a miracle but she believes that biblically she has an out for divorce. Not sure why she’s waiting 21 months but still. Please pray for total healing and restoration of our marriage and family. Please.
Thank you for sharing. I am the betrayed (my husband had over 20 physical encounters in 3-year period) and I will be praying that you find strength and are able to persevere in prayer for your marriage. Pray that God heals your wife and softens her heart. Your part, as I see it, is to pray and to show her that you are a new man in Christ. Read the Gospels and the Psalms and Proverbs to find direction on how to act like the new man you are. I am praying for you and your family.
@@beithamidrash1960 here we are 7 months since my post and I’ve been back in the house since covid but unfortunately my wife wants nothing to do with reconciliation. She’s been asking me to leave again which imo will likely lead To divorce. She makes life almost unbearable at home and honestly she’s really done nothing to help herself. Outside of the occasional counseling session and the input from her friends (most of whom are Christians that advocate divorce) Please keep praying for a miracle or that God will sustain me and our daughters if the worst happens.
A partner passing away would be easier. First time I’ve disagreed with John. Unless someone’s walked in a victims shoes, it’s hard to give accurate advice... only ideal responses...
@@awomansstory.2019you are correct. You can forgive but the pain always comes back with each reminder or trigger. Only 5 times in 34 years have I had sex with my wife without him (her boss) popping into my mind. How sick is that ?
Lord God, thank You for CONTINUOUSLY forgiving me when I "cheat" and commit adultery on You, Father... Jesus, thank You for Your blood shed for ALL who would believe... Holy Spirit, thank You for Your healing power that helps us humble ourselves, repent and hate our adulterous/sinful ways. Lord, forgive us ALL. Break our hearts towards the things, thoughts, deeds and attitudes that breaks Yours. In Jesus name, Amen ✝️ Thank you for speaking life into this difficult situation so many struggle with!
Please pray for my marriage to be reconciled! I was unfaithful and honestly a piece of garbage of a husband and I’ve been repentant and Jesus has changed my life for the better. My wife is still leaning towards divorce, even after two years of separation. I need strength and peace because I am broken.
@@beithamidrash1960 it helps not to focus on the sins of others, but on your own sins. he has his own sins he needs to deal with. and it is those sins that are the cause for his need for forgiveness from his wife.
Hopefully she moves on. You blew it. Jesus may forgive you but she doesn't have to. You Disqualified urself from that marriage. Next time think with the head between ur ears n not the one between ur legs
This video was triggering until he got to the point about the repentant, humble, long suffering adulterer. It’s not referring to those of us married to pathological liars and serial adulterers who have no intention of stopping (narcissists).
As the pastor mentioned, it takes two powerful requirements. 1. Forgiveness 2. Repentance So obviously both parties need to be willing to work together to recognise their mistakes and working towards restoration for this to work. I personally believe it would be emotional trauma for only the Forgiver to take this path alone. However if you still plan on taking this path, I would recommend the book: A Fierce Love by Shuna Shanks ♥️
Thank you Lord for creating John Piper! Thank you John Piper for loving our Lord. So many souls will be saved through his presentation of the word -amen 🙏🏼 🙌🏼
I pray that my heart would be softened to the point of forgiveness everyday. Though I’m not married and have not been cheated on, I pray that my heart in being wronged even to the level the question is posing that I would have the heart of God and forgive
We are commanded to forgive betrayal, but that does not mean we have to trust the one who betrayed us. Forgiveness means we hold nothing against them, we relinquish judgment and bitterness and revenge against them, and we may love them and desire only their good, but we are not obliged to trust them in the area in which they betrayed us. We may trust them in many ways, and empathise with their challenges and love them deeply, but whether they become trustworthy or not is out of our control. If they deceived us before, we'd be fools to forget that capacity altogether, however remorseful they may be. What is in a betrayed partner's control is pursuing healing of their own heart and mind from the devastating shock; recovering their sense of worth and peace in Yeshua/Jesus, who binds up the broken-hearted. It's up to the betraying partner to pursue their own healing and to be patient with the one they betrayed.
My husband committed adultery 4months ago with his cousin we have been working on the marriage there are days where I am ok and some where I just feel so low I cry and the trust is so broken I’m having a hard time Iv been praying staying in my word it’s hard so hard the fight is real at the same time I feel so low ugly like a fool
@torrespriscilla85 You need to give yourself a ton of grace here... the timeline for something like this is measured in years, not months. In my experience you need a horizon of 3-5 years to work past it. The trust is absolutely broken, the marriage is shattered, you are in many ways starting over. This message is reaching you around 10 months I think, I pray you're doing better but it takes a long time. Do not beat yourself up over it. It's awful.
Powerful stuff. I'm unmarried, but I know a couple who is struggling over this. We must all remember the price He paid - what He forgave us for and saved us from - when approaching such matters. I do not know how painful such a betrayal would be, yet I imagine it grievous to be borne: yet Jesus bore it and worse and all of our worst (for we have all sinned) for all of us.
@@JudeKnowsWhatYouDoNot I think you're reading something into what I said that I did not say - which might be my bad in how I wrote it. What I was trying to say: -He forgave, so ought we also to forgive when we are betrayed -He died for our sins to set us free *from* sin, not to set us free *to* sin. Romans 6:1-2: "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Sorry if what I wrote was poorly worded or some such.
@@Derek_Baumgartner you are still maintaining that we should be permissive when the situation arises...is this what god orders us to do? What does god say we should do when the situation of adultery arises?
@@JudeKnowsWhatYouDoNot Please stop putting words into my mouth. Forgiveness is not permission: to confuse these two is folly. If an act needs to be forgiven, then that act *should not* have happened. Similarly, forgiveness is not earned. It cannot be the same as permission. Think of the Ten Commandments, for example: on the topic of adultery, Jesus said that even those who lust are guilty of breaking the commandment of "Thou shalt not commit adultery." He did not say 'I permit adultery', but showed us that we're guilty under the law. == Jesus chose to die because of the seriousness of sin, to ensure that no sin would be unaccounted for - and to reach out and offer forgiveness to sinners. In other words, us. Jesus calls us to forgive: see the Lord's Prayer for just one example. So all that said: I've been mentioning some things forgiveness is not. So what is forgiveness? Recognizing something *wrong* was done, and choosing to not hold it against the person. Not recognizing something 'permissible' was done (else why would you need to forgive?). Not condoning the action (else why forgive?). Not refusing to take safeguards or check up on the person. (if it's bad for someone and you care about them, you should keep yourself from it and endeavor to keep them from it as well: see Jesus's parable of the beam in one's own eye, and the mote in the brother's). == Thank you for your time. :)
@@Derek_Baumgartner u say: "he showed us we are all guilty under the law"...wrong...this is very sleazy logic used by churches to fool naive and dumb people...God is very clear that the act of adultery is serious filth punishable by death...jesus' teaching was meant for impure thoughts, showing people that it was wrong to entertain them, a person who has both adulterous thoughts and commits adulterous acts is not the same as a person who has adulterous thoughts and chooses against adultery...it is very stupid to even imply they are the same since god declared the adulterous people who commit the act to be put to death, not the ones with the thoughts who then decided against it as they saw it was wrong. On the word permissible; If an action is done and it has no punishment then it is permissible, doesn't matter whether u claim its forgiveness or whatever. If an action is able to be done without a punishment, then that action is permissible in the society...and your doctrine seeks to make adultery permissible in the society. It dictates that adultery shouldn't be punished, that is the direct opposite of what god says. And Jesus says he didnt come to change God's law, as God's law is perfect. So your attempts to discredit God's judgment relating to punishments amounts to naught. I know this is what you are aiming at by saying "we are all guilty under the law"...no...if that were the case then Jesus wouldn't have said that only the righteous will inherit heaven. Some are guilty some are worse, we are not the same....Jesus said he will judge deeds...meaning some people's deeds are worse than others....this collective guilt nonsense only convinces dumb people
You can throw out all the biblical relevance in scripture and prayer At this problem But the problem is at the end of the day you know that anytime there's an argument in this relationship coming forward that whole thing is going to get thrown right back in your face by the hurt spouse every time "Do you remember when you had that affair 20 years ago".
@@markm2092 what does biblical truth have anything to do with it? Pray all you want but that More than likely it's going to come back at you at some point The pious and God fearing are just like everybody else when things go bad If That wasn't the case then you wouldn't see any divorce or cheating in Christian marriages But they're right up there with the rest of the unsaved
@@markm2092 to a point. I think sometimes Christianity just keeps you in a bad marriage, And you can't see the forest from the trees, I had a dog once that was full of cancer and it got to the point she just laid on the floor for days and I wondered if I should take her in and have her euthanized and all I can say in hindsight anybody that would have walked in that house and seen that dog laying there would have told me this is a no-brainer and it's time to pull the pin.
@@sitka49 of course delusion is something that must be watched for. Individuals must be close to God and their spirit attuned as to what they should do.
First of all Ask those who cheat on their spouses or have cheated on their spouses and call themselves as Christians to be Born-again. Forget about 70 times 7 forgiving. This is what Lord says to those who treat the grace of God with out any respect or regard and sin with out any remorse: For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Heb 10:26-31 🙏💐🙌
It is easier for a woman to forgive her husband than the other way around. If a wife cheats, the husband will always feel inadequate sexually with her, that is if he can ever be with her sexually again. Im not saying a marriage cant survive, but it will never be the same. If Im wrong, someone correct me.
You are correct. Only 5 times in 34 years when I had sex with my wife have I Not been reminded of her boss - lover. He always pops into my mind and that just plain sucks. So I have to go the rest of my life forgiving, but always being reminded.
I had already forgiven my husband even before he confessed, he seemed repented and honest at the beginning but then he started going back and forth and now I am hoping and standing for our marriage but he seems to be pulling away more and more even when he tells me he still loves me, then he tells me he doesn’t know what he wants 😢
Wow GOD, beautiful. Thank You for Your love. i hope GOD You may have Your hand and blessings on me, my wife and kids in Jesus/Yeshua's name forever amen.
Can anyone anyone pray for my husband and myself - what hes done is unbearable i dont know what else to do that im not doing already He needs to be saved FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT and mental demons leave .. m own life to turn to see one ray of hope in this marriage and in my life as i walk with the Lord and as he teaches.. no one to go to just me myself and l.
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My cheating wife who self proclaimed as Christian for many years denies all claims of infidelity in spite of evidences. She blames me for not trusting her by collecting evidence and refuse to work towards reconciliation. She is divorcing me.
@@ksscott920 And yet sin must be punished. It must not be forgiven, and forgotten. It must be rooted out, and defeated. Divorce is a last resort, but must occur when all options have failed.
Scott I think God gave this choice to us. I don’t personally see how I could stay with someone that would do that to me. I can forgive them but that doesn’t mean I have to stay. Specially if the Bible has said i don’t have to. But to those that do stay I commend them.
The reality is " once a cheater always a cheater" this applies to Christians and non Christians a like. If there are no children involved the best solution is to get a divorce, and stop the BS that pastors try to convince you with. After all its your spouse that betrayed you, therefore you are the offended party and its your call to stop this disrespect, or continue in a marriage where they will cheat on you again and again because you didn´t have the courage to end it right there and then.
I disagree that once a cheater always a cheater, but I do agree that if there are no kids and especially if you haven't been married long, my suggestion to anybody is to divorce. Don't bother, it is too painful. Just divorce.
Im married but my husband and I are far away from each other. This I know is temporary and soon we will be together in one place. However, while I am away, he has other ladies as his (sex provider). If this is adultery, am I partly to be blamed?
Is your husband a Christian? This is where the devil want to get you. He want you continually feel that guilt but you need to be strong here.... Remember your sins have been forgiven. And it's only God that Justifies. If he is Christian I will implore you to pray using eph1v17-21 to constantly pray for him. Pls read in TPT version. There is a glory coming out of this......
Gee John, This is one of the only times I disagree with you. Jesus thought infidelity was justifiable to get a divorce. Unless you’ve been through this pain, it’s all very ideal council. I don’t think this is a question for a man that’s never been through this.
I commited an adultery and I hope my wife would take me back. I have been unfaithful and I am feeling unworthy of any grace at the moment. I think I deserved hell
I am a betrayed spouse; please read Romans 8: "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.a 2For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin,c he condemned sin in the flesh, 4in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." Romans 6:17-18 "17But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, 18and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness." I urge you to find a group of men who can be of support and encouragement to you. If there's been an addiction to porn or any other sexual acts, seek a ministry that offers men's groups (Regeneration Ministries for example), look for a biblical counselor (biblicalcounseling.com) to guide you and instruct you in the Word, read the Bible start with Romans and the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). Remember, If you confess your sins to God and your spouse and are truly repentant, seek and pray continuously for healing and for a new life in Christ that shows your spouse that you are a new person in Christ. It will take time and longsuffering -- like John Piper said -- but in Christ, all things are possible.
Not only that child died. 4 children died: Absalom, the one who raped Tamar etc David was in old covenant: he died without forgiving Simiah and went to heaven. If you die without forgiving someone, you will go to hell. David was in kindergarten, he could dirty his diapers. We are in university (spiritually), we can't afford to commit his sins because God has given more to us than to him.
He got off easy, and deserved what every other Israelite commoner would have gotten had they committed and got caught. He, unfortunately, needed to serve a purpose, and tragically he did not explain to his son Solomon to do things different. What a waste.
God forgives us all our sins but the consequences cannot be undone. The hurt others inflict on us cannot be undone, only healed. I am a betrayed spouse so I am not minimizing the impact a spouse's infidelity has on our lives (and children's lives). I am only saying that as Christians, we are called to be Christ-like -- and while it's extremely difficult -- to forgive and give reconciliation a chance (as long as the offender has repented and is a Christ-follower). If the offender is unrepentant, we are called to rebuke them (to confront them in love, not in hate) and use our church leaders to help us do this as well.
If a spouse cheats it's bc they don't have genuine desire for you. Trust me, from experience, they will do it again at some point, if not think about doing it again. They will get sneakier about it. Why? Bc there is no consequences for adultery anymore. If you do forgive, I guarantee it'll bother you all the time and arguments will be frequent. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Use your head.
One hundred, and fifty, percent correct, Chris. If you cannot follow one simple rule, such not committing adultery, then get out. Pack your things, and leave. There is no more for that great of an error, and must not be permitted to be "forgiven". Sorry, but I am not the one who fooled around. She picked the wrong side, and will be marked by history. If you cannot pay the price, do not do the crime. It is a shame that people are soft on sin.
@@InvokingTexan this pastor is giving VERY bad advice. He's saying marry a whore (or man)and have kids and forgive them over and over bc GOD forgave Israel. NOOOOO!!!! Vet people and avoid! This is a recipe for headache and heartache. If you listen closely, It gives this behavior a pass. Be long suffering & someday it'll all work out. I do not recommend wasting your life with such person. God is creator of the universe and time. A man doing this gets cucked, STDs and gets zeroed out in the court when she finds a new boyfriend. 100% responsibility, 0% authority. I say be better about vetting people and don't get involved and if you do marry and the spouse continues with bad behavior then get out. I tried the" forgive and someday they will give it up" No,No,No,No....be ruthless and have your boundaries.
@@chrisclayton584 I know, right? Pastor John has his moments of clarity, but often lapses in judgment. No one is perfect, but we should strive to be better. I think it is possible for a man to stay faithful to his wife, and not have an adulterous affair. Such things, at least in the physical sense, are within reach, and can be replicated. Lust is another issue, but even then we have the story of Job to look to for inspiration. A man who was tempted, but guarded his eyes from evil. That is very stuff testimony, and each man should do no less. Women are some of the worst offenders, and I have yet to hear a story of them being tempted and resisting. Bathsheba is a prime example, because she should have said "no" to king David. Yes, standing your ground against the king himself. But of course, as her kind is prone to do, she failed, and got her baby son killed. And if Christ is jealous for me, because I belong to Him, then I am to be jealous for my woman. And she to me, because we are united as man and wife. No surrender, or mercy to sin. It must be rooted out, and destroyed. Nothing less.
Believing in God and commiting adultery is unforgivable you knew of your wrong and still did it anyways. Clearly the only reason you're asking for forgiveness is because you're afraid of punishment, and you deserve punishment.
One of many simple rules. Unforgivable is unforgivable, and cheating is one of those unforgivable transgressions. As God hates divorce, He hates adultery. No sinner, no sin. Let each man be fully convinced, in his own mind. I could not look her in the eye, and smile the same anymore. And definitely not loving kiss her lips, after knowing where probably where. Understand?
Yes. This pastor obviously haven't experienced adultery himself. Ant it's typical for such people tho throw the term "forgiveness" around whitout knowing or explaining what it's really about. God forgives? Ok. But it has nothing to do with this.
@@InvokingTexan I fully understand. I was close to losing my mind in the Summer of 1986. NO ONE has the right to tell someone what to do in this case. Once a wife has done unspeakable things with another man is only one part of this terror. The other part is seeing her in your mind enjoying the other guy and wondering how I "measured" up to him. I know all about going through this hell. Yes, we are commanded to forgive, but we are not commanded to forget. You cant forget things like this.
They can't. Jesus said u can put away due to infidelity. So take his advice n put away. Otherwise the on going relationship will just be lots of pain. Move on~
Short answer: never. Long answer: how could you ever forgive, and forget such a transgression? You have one job, and that is to not cheat on your spouse. The line has been crossed, and there is no going back. A man, and woman are supposed to exchange each others' romance exclusively. Once an adulterer, always an adulterer. Every time a man looks away, his wife might be scheming to satisfy her next fix! Do you know how tiring it is to be suspicious, and on guard with your own spouse? To question them on where they have been, who did they see, and why they were there? She has defiled a bed that was once green, and clean. She turned it into rot, and dust. How can a man rest his head in the same house with a woman who has forsaken him for a another man, let alone share the same bed with her. Or worse... deal with an incident of her sharing company with her own kind. How can he look her in the eye, and smile day after day after day? How can he say, "Hello, honey", after a long day at work, and kiss her lips knowing where her mouth has been? There is supposed to be an open door policy on temptation, and the couple is to work things out before an affair. Emotional, or physical: the two are both sinful. And sin must be punished severely. But because we live in an unjust world, divorce will have to suffice. Let each man be convinced, in his own mind. It it applies to observing holy days, then it applies to infidelity. In my mind, I did not marry a whore. I married a sister in Christ, and a virgin woman. I did not sign up for anything else.
@@victoriadorgu3207 I saw your same comment, on another thread. I seriously do not know if you are a bot, or not. Prove it, and say something than a copy-paste response.
WHAT IF you were a terrible husband and your wife strayed but still loved you and wished you would change. Would you forgive her since it was you who opened the door to her sadly looking elsewhere for “attention” you should have been giving her? Sigh....
@@AL_FARID_23 of course.."I opened my legs for a stranger, sucked his penis and let him ejaculate inside me because my husband wasn't giving me 'attention'...yes...a very moral decision I made because I am a christian who loves god and these actions are justified by the blood of Jesus...it is his fault entirely not mine, after all, who cares about vows and sexual purity and what he feels, its not like I have a conscience right. I'm sure god would understand. If my husband refuses to take me back, he is the bad person, I've already said sorry, what's the big deal?"
International Chaplain things are much better, we’re recognizing where we BOTH went wrong, and we’re on our way to being stronger than ever. God is good and the enemy will NOT win!
Sucubus and me... I keep marrying Satins demon Daughter? I call her Sucubus. Succubus uses her deciet and deception to betray and commit unfaithful adulterous affairs. An intentional act to destroy the victim and decimated a mans soul. It is an inciteful act that is intended to harm and destroy the victim of Adultery. Adultery and betrayal cause murder suicides and unnecessary deaths to children families freinds and associates of the perpetrator who is decietful. She invites the evil in and leaves with the demons from Hell...Deciet Deception Betrayal and Adultery. Betrayal parallel rape Adultery parallel murder Adultery is not a victimless crime! A succubus is a female demon or supernatural entity. She appears in dreams and in life to seduce men through sexual activity. Repeated sexual activity with a succubus can cause poor physical or mental health, even death... Sucubus destroys men's soul.
Does Christians of this age know there are somethings called as Virginity, Purity, Holiness, Justice and Mercy? By the way I wonder why Christians do not take the example of or preach to all women to be like Mary, mother of Jesus? who maintained her purity and virginity before the marriage Or Take the example of Joseph, the father of Jesus who was called as a Just man by God for he wanted to discard Mary, his would be wife secretly (with out maligning her name) when he found that she was pregnant before the marriage? Ofcourse later God revealed to Him that she is pure and was with child due to the work of God in her womb. Does Christians of this age know there are somethings called as Virginity, Purity, Holiness, Justice and Mercy? Beloved, do not imitate what is evil, but what is good. He who does good is of God, but he who does evil has not seen God. - 3 John 1:11 Does Christians have any good testimonies anymore? Anyway what is a good testimony these days for a Christian? - Being Rich in this world or Being Rich in the Lord? Demetrius has a good testimony from all, and from the truth itself. And we also bear witness, and you know that our testimony is true. - 3 John 1:12 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “be holy, for I am holy. And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear; knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God. - 1 Peter 1:15-21 🙏💐🙌
My husband hasn’t committed physical adultery but emotional and in his mind by looking at and having internet relationships. I forgive him but he is not saved so my prayer first is for his salvation and healing and restoration of our marriage. It sure is hard when I know he isn’t submitted to God. But I believe God is powerful enough to change his heart and use our marriage for His glory.
Of course, pray for this spiritual redemption. Assuming that you married your husband knowing that he was an unbeliever, why did you make yourself unequally yoked? That is literally the equivalent of jumping out of a plane without a parachute, and expecting to land unharmed. Especially if he is unrepentant, and is continuing in his lust, he will only escalate the situation. Are you surprised that such an incident has occurred?
I do not know your marriage, and where it went wrong. Maybe you both were atheists, when you married. And in the process, you came to Christ. For that, I say is a delicate situation. Naturally, you ought not to abandon your unbelieving husband. Financial security, shelter, possible children, and above all commitment to following scripture. But do not permit his foibles, and make you sin. Confront him, and stand your ground.
God bless you sister, I know that must be very hard.
@@InvokingTexan I don't think your first paragraph of that is very helpful. They're already married? Why even bring up the unequally yoked? Not helpful. Its like saying I told you so. I don't know if she's offended but I'm offended for her. You don't kick someone when they're down. That is NOT of the Holy Spirit.
Thank u for your comments I was a little offended but you are right at the time we married we were both going to church and I was hopeful that he would seek God like I am but he hasn’t yet. But miracles can happen. Through all this I have learned that I was not a respectful and submissive wife. That’s not to excuse his actions but I know God wasn’t happy with how I was so He is using this situation to change me. As far as I know he has stopped but with social media the way it is it’s hard to tell. I trust God to bring to light anything I need to know and until He does I want to be a gentle quiet spirit that is precious to our Lord. Love believes the best and never fails I get to learn and practice this.
@@somethinggood9267 Because scripture literally says do not be unequally yoked. It says do not marry unbeliever, when you are a Christian. By Karen's own admission, she said they went to church hoping that her husband would seek Christ. What!? She knew what she was getting into, and went through with marrying him. That is insane, and no shock whatsoever that he is seeking out an emotional affair. It will get worse, as long as he is lost. Seriously, what is the matter with you guys?
I get the other side of the argument. If the unbelieving spouse is willing to stay in the marriage, let them. If not, let them go. And yeah, this is a situation of "I told you so". This information of heartache, and ruin in such a marriage has been available for two thousand years. God said it: I am just repeating what He said. Get offended all you want, but scripture is scripture. Rebuke, and admonishment is a good thing. Sorry that you are a bleeding heart, Michelle, but I am not.
My friends mom told me about her husband cheating, and she was filling a divorce, I shared this video with her and it opened a window for forgiveness for her! Not only that it has increased my faith in Jesus because I witnessed how his word helped! Praise God!
True work of a Christian. Good job. God bless you.
@@born2win259 I learned something from this too, praise the Lord
Wow amazing! God is good
Please pray for my marriage because I committed adultery twice over a 10 year period. I’ve since repented and re dedicated my life to Christ and have not swayed back to the old life in 21 months. That being said my wife has no desire for our marriage to continue and we’ve been separated for the last 21 months and have 3 beautiful daughters.
I’m trusting God for a miracle but she believes that biblically she has an out for divorce. Not sure why she’s waiting 21 months but still. Please pray for total healing and restoration of our marriage and family. Please.
@@johnmagee3292 let's pray now!
Lord I pray for Anthony and his family, I know we are sinful and children of wrath but you promise in your word that if we truely repent and ask you for forgiveness that you will restore our land. I pray right now that you restore this family Lord and recenter it on your precious son, in the almighty name of Jesus
It is done
Please pray for my marriage because I committed adultery twice over a 10 year period. I’ve since repented and re dedicated my life to Christ and have not swayed back to the old life in 21 months. That being said my wife has no desire for our marriage to continue and we’ve been separated for the last 21 months and have 3 beautiful daughters.
I’m trusting God for a miracle but she believes that biblically she has an out for divorce. Not sure why she’s waiting 21 months but still. Please pray for total healing and restoration of our marriage and family. Please.
Praying for reconciliation for you two.
Thank you for sharing. I am the betrayed (my husband had over 20 physical encounters in 3-year period) and I will be praying that you find strength and are able to persevere in prayer for your marriage. Pray that God heals your wife and softens her heart. Your part, as I see it, is to pray and to show her that you are a new man in Christ. Read the Gospels and the Psalms and Proverbs to find direction on how to act like the new man you are. I am praying for you and your family.
I hate it when people don't forgive other people. It makes me sad.
@@beithamidrash1960 here we are 7 months since my post and I’ve been back in the house since covid but unfortunately my wife wants nothing to do with reconciliation. She’s been asking me to leave again which imo will likely lead
To divorce. She makes life almost unbearable at home and honestly she’s really done nothing to help herself. Outside of the occasional counseling session and the input from her friends (most of whom are Christians that advocate divorce)
Please keep praying for a miracle or that God will sustain me and our daughters if the worst happens.
@@johnmagee3292 I pray for you and your wife that both of you see God's mercy and grace daily.
Willing to forgive but the image of your spouse giving themselves to another is painful 😢
Please pray for restoration of my marriage and the stopping of divorce
Hello do you still need help?
Amen I pray you guys are restored prayers over here too
Trust is never the same. Betrayal is the worst pain you can cause your spouse.
A partner passing away would be easier. First time I’ve disagreed with John. Unless someone’s walked in a victims shoes, it’s hard to give accurate advice... only ideal responses...
I don’t think there is a way to forgive or forget. A person can try and block it out but that’s only temporary.
@Babylon6969 I personally agree that you can forgive but you never get over the wondering about it.
@@awomansstory.2019you are correct. You can forgive but the pain always comes back with each reminder or trigger. Only 5 times in 34 years have I had sex with my wife without him (her boss) popping into my mind. How sick is that ?
Lord God, thank You for CONTINUOUSLY forgiving me when I "cheat" and commit adultery on You, Father... Jesus, thank You for Your blood shed for ALL who would believe... Holy Spirit, thank You for Your healing power that helps us humble ourselves, repent and hate our adulterous/sinful ways. Lord, forgive us ALL. Break our hearts towards the things, thoughts, deeds and attitudes that breaks Yours. In Jesus name, Amen ✝️
Thank you for speaking life into this difficult situation so many struggle with!
Well said, amen.
Please pray for my marriage to be reconciled! I was unfaithful and honestly a piece of garbage of a husband and I’ve been repentant and Jesus has changed my life for the better. My wife is still leaning towards divorce, even after two years of separation. I need strength and peace because I am broken.
Will pray for you brother
It's not your fault that your wife was an unforgiving person.
How do you show her your devotion and love for her?
@@beithamidrash1960 it helps not to focus on the sins of others, but on your own sins. he has his own sins he needs to deal with. and it is those sins that are the cause for his need for forgiveness from his wife.
Hopefully she moves on. You blew it. Jesus may forgive you but she doesn't have to. You Disqualified urself from that marriage. Next time think with the head between ur ears n not the one between ur legs
This video was triggering until he got to the point about the repentant, humble, long suffering adulterer. It’s not referring to those of us married to pathological liars and serial adulterers who have no intention of stopping (narcissists).
meandjoe2000 like Hosea’s wife?
gbC4mpos did Gomer repent was she sorry?
If they have no intention of stopping that’s a problem
As the pastor mentioned, it takes two powerful requirements.
1. Forgiveness
2. Repentance
So obviously both parties need to be willing to work together to recognise their mistakes and working towards restoration for this to work.
I personally believe it would be emotional trauma for only the Forgiver to take this path alone.
However if you still plan on taking this path, I would recommend the book:
A Fierce Love by Shuna Shanks ♥️
@@born2win259 But how to know if they have the intention?
I need this. I need this right now … I’m not sure what will happen next. I don’t know, I just need to have faith …
Thank you Lord for creating John Piper! Thank you John Piper for loving our Lord. So many souls will be saved through his presentation of the word -amen 🙏🏼 🙌🏼
I pray that my heart would be softened to the point of forgiveness everyday. Though I’m not married and have not been cheated on, I pray that my heart in being wronged even to the level the question is posing that I would have the heart of God and forgive
Well then you don't know what you're talking about.
We are commanded to forgive betrayal, but that does not mean we have to trust the one who betrayed us. Forgiveness means we hold nothing against them, we relinquish judgment and bitterness and revenge against them, and we may love them and desire only their good, but we are not obliged to trust them in the area in which they betrayed us. We may trust them in many ways, and empathise with their challenges and love them deeply, but whether they become trustworthy or not is out of our control. If they deceived us before, we'd be fools to forget that capacity altogether, however remorseful they may be.
What is in a betrayed partner's control is pursuing healing of their own heart and mind from the devastating shock; recovering their sense of worth and peace in Yeshua/Jesus, who binds up the broken-hearted.
It's up to the betraying partner to pursue their own healing and to be patient with the one they betrayed.
Amen, amen, a thousand times amen!
So we'll spoken. Forgiveness doesn't mean reconciliation.
@@lh3565 Yes. One might forgive, and also be reconciled, but it won't go back to what it was before. One might build something else though.
Yes yes yes yes!!!! ‘Adultery is not a biblical passport for divorce’ so well said and true🙏
That position is fairly rare in Christian circles. Most feel that divorce is a biblically supported response to adultery, and I believe it is as well.
This is so difficult💔 praise God for his spirit that gives me strength to hold on an trust his promises are greater then my desires!
My husband committed adultery 4months ago with his cousin we have been working on the marriage there are days where I am ok and some where I just feel so low I cry and the trust is so broken I’m having a hard time Iv been praying staying in my word it’s hard so hard the fight is real at the same time I feel so low ugly like a fool
With his cousin? Honey, you arent to blame. He made the choice.
I will pray for you!
What in the Alabama
@torrespriscilla85 You need to give yourself a ton of grace here... the timeline for something like this is measured in years, not months. In my experience you need a horizon of 3-5 years to work past it. The trust is absolutely broken, the marriage is shattered, you are in many ways starting over. This message is reaching you around 10 months I think, I pray you're doing better but it takes a long time. Do not beat yourself up over it. It's awful.
@@wm7929I needed to hear this thank you
I WOULD love to know how would scripture apply to the PTSD that one gets after betrayal? Please someone let me know!
A year later and I'm still waiting on an answer as well for the PTSD 😢
Amen. Rebuilding trust is different from forgiveness. It takes time.
Powerful stuff.
I'm unmarried, but I know a couple who is struggling over this.
We must all remember the price He paid - what He forgave us for and saved us from - when approaching such matters.
I do not know how painful such a betrayal would be, yet I imagine it grievous to be borne: yet Jesus bore it and worse and all of our worst (for we have all sinned) for all of us.
So Jesus died so that people could commit adultery?? I think you got the wrong message
@@JudeKnowsWhatYouDoNot I think you're reading something into what I said that I did not say - which might be my bad in how I wrote it.
What I was trying to say:
-He forgave, so ought we also to forgive when we are betrayed
-He died for our sins to set us free *from* sin, not to set us free *to* sin.
Romans 6:1-2:
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"
Sorry if what I wrote was poorly worded or some such.
@@Derek_Baumgartner you are still maintaining that we should be permissive when the situation arises...is this what god orders us to do? What does god say we should do when the situation of adultery arises?
@@JudeKnowsWhatYouDoNot Please stop putting words into my mouth.
Forgiveness is not permission: to confuse these two is folly. If an act needs to be forgiven, then that act *should not* have happened.
Similarly, forgiveness is not earned. It cannot be the same as permission.
Think of the Ten Commandments, for example: on the topic of adultery, Jesus said that even those who lust are guilty of breaking the commandment of "Thou shalt not commit adultery."
He did not say 'I permit adultery', but showed us that we're guilty under the law.
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Jesus chose to die because of the seriousness of sin, to ensure that no sin would be unaccounted for - and to reach out and offer forgiveness to sinners. In other words, us.
Jesus calls us to forgive: see the Lord's Prayer for just one example.
So all that said: I've been mentioning some things forgiveness is not.
So what is forgiveness?
Recognizing something *wrong* was done, and choosing to not hold it against the person.
Not recognizing something 'permissible' was done (else why would you need to forgive?).
Not condoning the action (else why forgive?).
Not refusing to take safeguards or check up on the person. (if it's bad for someone and you care about them, you should keep yourself from it and endeavor to keep them from it as well: see Jesus's parable of the beam in one's own eye, and the mote in the brother's).
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Thank you for your time. :)
@@Derek_Baumgartner u say: "he showed us we are all guilty under the law"...wrong...this is very sleazy logic used by churches to fool naive and dumb people...God is very clear that the act of adultery is serious filth punishable by death...jesus' teaching was meant for impure thoughts, showing people that it was wrong to entertain them, a person who has both adulterous thoughts and commits adulterous acts is not the same as a person who has adulterous thoughts and chooses against adultery...it is very stupid to even imply they are the same since god declared the adulterous people who commit the act to be put to death, not the ones with the thoughts who then decided against it as they saw it was wrong.
On the word permissible;
If an action is done and it has no punishment then it is permissible, doesn't matter whether u claim its forgiveness or whatever. If an action is able to be done without a punishment, then that action is permissible in the society...and your doctrine seeks to make adultery permissible in the society. It dictates that adultery shouldn't be punished, that is the direct opposite of what god says.
And Jesus says he didnt come to change God's law, as God's law is perfect. So your attempts to discredit God's judgment relating to punishments amounts to naught. I know this is what you are aiming at by saying "we are all guilty under the law"...no...if that were the case then Jesus wouldn't have said that only the righteous will inherit heaven. Some are guilty some are worse, we are not the same....Jesus said he will judge deeds...meaning some people's deeds are worse than others....this collective guilt nonsense only convinces dumb people
Beautiful and healing message, Pastor John!
You can throw out all the biblical relevance in scripture and prayer
At this problem
But the problem is at the end of the day you know that anytime there's an argument in this relationship coming forward that whole thing is going to get thrown right back in your face by the hurt spouse every time
"Do you remember when you had that affair 20 years ago".
And so do you count that higher than Biblical truth?
Can God not restore all?
@@markm2092 what does biblical truth have anything to do with it?
Pray all you want but that More than likely it's going to come back at you at some point
The pious and God fearing are just like everybody else when things go bad
If That wasn't the case then you wouldn't see any divorce or cheating in Christian marriages
But they're right up there with the rest of the unsaved
@@sitka49 my point is that our hope should empower us to go the distance rather than hung up the towel
@@markm2092 to a point.
I think sometimes Christianity just keeps you in a bad marriage, And you can't see the forest from the trees,
I had a dog once that was full of cancer and it got to the point she just laid on the floor for days and I wondered if I should take her in and have her euthanized and all I can say in hindsight anybody that would have walked in that house and seen that dog laying there would have told me this is a no-brainer and it's time to pull the pin.
@@sitka49 of course delusion is something that must be watched for. Individuals must be close to God and their spirit attuned as to what they should do.
First of all Ask those who cheat on their spouses or have cheated on their spouses and call themselves as Christians to be Born-again. Forget about 70 times 7 forgiving. This is what Lord says to those who treat the grace of God with out any respect or regard and sin with out any remorse:
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Heb 10:26-31
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Thank you so much for this Pastor John. You always give the right words and supported by the Scriptures 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
It is easier for a woman to forgive her husband than the other way around. If a wife cheats, the husband will always feel inadequate sexually with her, that is if he can ever be with her sexually again. Im not saying a marriage cant survive, but it will never be the same. If Im wrong, someone correct me.
You are correct. Only 5 times in 34 years when I had sex with my wife have I Not been reminded of her boss - lover. He always pops into my mind and that just plain sucks. So I have to go the rest of my life forgiving, but always being reminded.
I had already forgiven my husband even before he confessed, he seemed repented and honest at the beginning but then he started going back and forth and now I am hoping and standing for our marriage but he seems to be pulling away more and more even when he tells me he still loves me, then he tells me he doesn’t know what he wants 😢
Wow GOD, beautiful. Thank You for Your love. i hope GOD You may have Your hand and blessings on me, my wife and kids in Jesus/Yeshua's name forever amen.
Adultery is far worse than just someone who's wronged you.
Can anyone anyone pray for my husband and myself - what hes done is unbearable i dont know what else to do that im not doing already He needs to be saved FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT and mental demons leave .. m own life to turn to see one ray of hope in this marriage and in my life as i walk with the Lord and as he teaches.. no one to go to just me myself and l.
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My cheating wife who self proclaimed as Christian for many years denies all claims of infidelity in spite of evidences. She blames me for not trusting her by collecting evidence and refuse to work towards reconciliation. She is divorcing me.
There is a big difference between your brother sinning against you, and you spouse cheating on you.
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The same cross was good enough to pay for both crimes.
Yet God Forgives both.
@@bernieswim That does not mean you have to put up with someone who will go and have sex with someone else outside of their marriage.
MASSIVE
Anointed teaching God bless
lovely video
"I don't think adultery is a Biblical pass for divorce."
Scripture says it is.
yes, strange that Pastor John said that
God hates divorce regardless of the circumstance. Scripture never encourages divorce but it offers guidance on how it's to be done if we do divorce.
@@ksscott920 And yet sin must be punished. It must not be forgiven, and forgotten. It must be rooted out, and defeated. Divorce is a last resort, but must occur when all options have failed.
@@InvokingTexan my sin was paid for on the cross and I believe a repentant adulterers was too.
Scott I think God gave this choice to us. I don’t personally see how I could stay with someone that would do that to me. I can forgive them but that doesn’t mean I have to stay. Specially if the Bible has said i don’t have to. But to those that do stay I commend them.
Superb ..👍👍
Amen 🙏🏾 this really blessed me.
It is good for a man not to touch a woman
If possible leave them alone
Unless someone exceptional
Comes along!
If someone commits adultery, the one that was cheated on is free to divorce in the eyes of God, I don’t care what anybody says.
The reality is " once a cheater always a cheater" this applies to Christians and non Christians a like. If there are no children involved the best solution is to get a divorce, and stop the BS that pastors try to convince you with. After all its your spouse that betrayed you, therefore you are the offended party and its your call to stop this disrespect, or continue in a marriage where they will cheat on you again and again because you didn´t have the courage to end it right there and then.
I disagree that once a cheater always a cheater, but I do agree that if there are no kids and especially if you haven't been married long, my suggestion to anybody is to divorce. Don't bother, it is too painful. Just divorce.
"once a [insert sin here] always a [enter sin here]." is not reality, so as to suggest people cannot change their behavior. Repentance exists.
Pastor John how to work out my marriage? My husband he is into too human one to other and kind are coming many times.
Im married but my husband and I are far away from each other. This I know is temporary and soon we will be together in one place. However, while I am away, he has other ladies as his (sex provider). If this is adultery, am I partly to be blamed?
Itd adultery and not your fault if you are away. But you have to let him know this is something that is a dela breaker fully
Is your husband a Christian? This is where the devil want to get you. He want you continually feel that guilt but you need to be strong here.... Remember your sins have been forgiven. And it's only God that Justifies. If he is Christian I will implore you to pray using eph1v17-21 to constantly pray for him. Pls read in TPT version. There is a glory coming out of this......
Rest! Rest!!
God hates divorce
Forgiveness doesnt mean reconcile.
Gee John, This is one of the only times I disagree with you. Jesus thought infidelity was justifiable to get a divorce. Unless you’ve been through this pain, it’s all very ideal council. I don’t think this is a question for a man that’s never been through this.
Forgive me I'm a sinners I have sini have cheated my husband he too I took this because of him
I commited an adultery and I hope my wife would take me back. I have been unfaithful and I am feeling unworthy of any grace at the moment. I think I deserved hell
I am a betrayed spouse; please read Romans 8:
"There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.a 2For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin,c he condemned sin in the flesh, 4in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."
Romans 6:17-18
"17But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, 18and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness."
I urge you to find a group of men who can be of support and encouragement to you. If there's been an addiction to porn or any other sexual acts, seek a ministry that offers men's groups (Regeneration Ministries for example), look for a biblical counselor (biblicalcounseling.com) to guide you and instruct you in the Word, read the Bible start with Romans and the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). Remember, If you confess your sins to God and your spouse and are truly repentant, seek and pray continuously for healing and for a new life in Christ that shows your spouse that you are a new person in Christ. It will take time and longsuffering -- like John Piper said -- but in Christ, all things are possible.
you do deserve hell. as do I. only Jesus can pay the price for our sins and give us eternal life.
What about the incident with King David and Bathsheba
God forgave him, but also punished him, his first child with Batsheba died
Nada Colić yep good example
Not only that child died.
4 children died: Absalom, the one who raped Tamar etc
David was in old covenant: he died without forgiving Simiah and went to heaven. If you die without forgiving someone, you will go to hell.
David was in kindergarten, he could dirty his diapers.
We are in university (spiritually), we can't afford to commit his sins because God has given more to us than to him.
He got off easy, and deserved what every other Israelite commoner would have gotten had they committed and got caught. He, unfortunately, needed to serve a purpose, and tragically he did not explain to his son Solomon to do things different. What a waste.
God forgives us all our sins but the consequences cannot be undone. The hurt others inflict on us cannot be undone, only healed. I am a betrayed spouse so I am not minimizing the impact a spouse's infidelity has on our lives (and children's lives). I am only saying that as Christians, we are called to be Christ-like -- and while it's extremely difficult -- to forgive and give reconciliation a chance (as long as the offender has repented and is a Christ-follower). If the offender is unrepentant, we are called to rebuke them (to confront them in love, not in hate) and use our church leaders to help us do this as well.
If a spouse cheats it's bc they don't have genuine desire for you. Trust me, from experience, they will do it again at some point, if not think about doing it again. They will get sneakier about it. Why? Bc there is no consequences for adultery anymore. If you do forgive, I guarantee it'll bother you all the time and arguments will be frequent. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Use your head.
Chris Clayton forgiveness only works with repentance.
yep agreed, and I can almost guarantee the woman was the adulterer
One hundred, and fifty, percent correct, Chris. If you cannot follow one simple rule, such not committing adultery, then get out. Pack your things, and leave. There is no more for that great of an error, and must not be permitted to be "forgiven". Sorry, but I am not the one who fooled around. She picked the wrong side, and will be marked by history. If you cannot pay the price, do not do the crime. It is a shame that people are soft on sin.
@@InvokingTexan this pastor is giving VERY bad advice. He's saying marry a whore (or man)and have kids and forgive them over and over bc GOD forgave Israel. NOOOOO!!!! Vet people and avoid! This is a recipe for headache and heartache. If you listen closely, It gives this behavior a pass. Be long suffering & someday it'll all work out. I do not recommend wasting your life with such person. God is creator of the universe and time. A man doing this gets cucked, STDs and gets zeroed out in the court when she finds a new boyfriend. 100% responsibility, 0% authority. I say be better about vetting people and don't get involved and if you do marry and the spouse continues with bad behavior then get out. I tried the" forgive and someday they will give it up" No,No,No,No....be ruthless and have your boundaries.
@@chrisclayton584 I know, right? Pastor John has his moments of clarity, but often lapses in judgment. No one is perfect, but we should strive to be better. I think it is possible for a man to stay faithful to his wife, and not have an adulterous affair. Such things, at least in the physical sense, are within reach, and can be replicated. Lust is another issue, but even then we have the story of Job to look to for inspiration. A man who was tempted, but guarded his eyes from evil. That is very stuff testimony, and each man should do no less.
Women are some of the worst offenders, and I have yet to hear a story of them being tempted and resisting. Bathsheba is a prime example, because she should have said "no" to king David. Yes, standing your ground against the king himself. But of course, as her kind is prone to do, she failed, and got her baby son killed.
And if Christ is jealous for me, because I belong to Him, then I am to be jealous for my woman. And she to me, because we are united as man and wife. No surrender, or mercy to sin. It must be rooted out, and destroyed. Nothing less.
Believing in God and commiting adultery is unforgivable you knew of your wrong and still did it anyways. Clearly the only reason you're asking for forgiveness is because you're afraid of punishment, and you deserve punishment.
Can't
One of many simple rules. Unforgivable is unforgivable, and cheating is one of those unforgivable transgressions. As God hates divorce, He hates adultery. No sinner, no sin. Let each man be fully convinced, in his own mind. I could not look her in the eye, and smile the same anymore. And definitely not loving kiss her lips, after knowing where probably where. Understand?
Yes. This pastor obviously haven't experienced adultery himself. Ant it's typical for such people tho throw the term "forgiveness" around whitout knowing or explaining what it's really about. God forgives? Ok. But it has nothing to do with this.
@@InvokingTexan I fully understand. I was close to losing my mind in the Summer of 1986. NO ONE has the right to tell someone what to do in this case. Once a wife has done unspeakable things with another man is only one part of this terror. The other part is seeing her in your mind enjoying the other guy and wondering how I "measured" up to him. I know all about going through this hell. Yes, we are commanded to forgive, but we are not commanded to forget. You cant forget things like this.
They can't. Jesus said u can put away due to infidelity. So take his advice n put away. Otherwise the on going relationship will just be lots of pain. Move on~
Short answer: never. Long answer: how could you ever forgive, and forget such a transgression?
You have one job, and that is to not cheat on your spouse. The line has been crossed, and there is no going back. A man, and woman are supposed to exchange each others' romance exclusively. Once an adulterer, always an adulterer. Every time a man looks away, his wife might be scheming to satisfy her next fix! Do you know how tiring it is to be suspicious, and on guard with your own spouse? To question them on where they have been, who did they see, and why they were there?
She has defiled a bed that was once green, and clean. She turned it into rot, and dust. How can a man rest his head in the same house with a woman who has forsaken him for a another man, let alone share the same bed with her. Or worse... deal with an incident of her sharing company with her own kind. How can he look her in the eye, and smile day after day after day? How can he say, "Hello, honey", after a long day at work, and kiss her lips knowing where her mouth has been?
There is supposed to be an open door policy on temptation, and the couple is to work things out before an affair. Emotional, or physical: the two are both sinful. And sin must be punished severely. But because we live in an unjust world, divorce will have to suffice. Let each man be convinced, in his own mind. It it applies to observing holy days, then it applies to infidelity. In my mind, I did not marry a whore. I married a sister in Christ, and a virgin woman. I did not sign up for anything else.
@@victoriadorgu3207 I saw your same comment, on another thread. I seriously do not know if you are a bot, or not. Prove it, and say something than a copy-paste response.
WHAT IF you were a terrible husband and your wife strayed but still loved you and wished you would change. Would you forgive her since it was you who opened the door to her sadly looking elsewhere for “attention” you should have been giving her? Sigh....
@@AL_FARID_23 of course.."I opened my legs for a stranger, sucked his penis and let him ejaculate inside me because my husband wasn't giving me 'attention'...yes...a very moral decision I made because I am a christian who loves god and these actions are justified by the blood of Jesus...it is his fault entirely not mine, after all, who cares about vows and sexual purity and what he feels, its not like I have a conscience right. I'm sure god would understand. If my husband refuses to take me back, he is the bad person, I've already said sorry, what's the big deal?"
I am sorry you have been hurt.
I know it hurts.
I understand brother.
International Chaplain things are much better, we’re recognizing where we BOTH went wrong, and we’re on our way to being stronger than ever. God is good and the enemy will NOT win!
Sucubus and me...
I keep marrying Satins demon Daughter?
I call her Sucubus.
Succubus uses her deciet and deception to betray and commit unfaithful adulterous affairs.
An intentional act to destroy the victim and decimated a mans soul.
It is an inciteful act that is intended to harm and destroy the victim of Adultery.
Adultery and betrayal cause murder suicides and unnecessary deaths to children families freinds and associates of the perpetrator who is decietful.
She invites the evil in and leaves with the demons from Hell...Deciet Deception Betrayal and Adultery.
Betrayal parallel rape
Adultery parallel murder
Adultery is not a victimless crime!
A succubus is a female demon or supernatural entity.
She appears in dreams and in life to seduce men through sexual activity.
Repeated sexual activity with a succubus can cause poor physical or mental health, even death...
Sucubus destroys men's soul.
This MOFO REALLY huh they playing victim now part 1 part 2 lmao apparently twins xxxx
Does Christians of this age know there are somethings called as Virginity, Purity, Holiness, Justice and Mercy?
By the way I wonder why Christians do not take the example of or preach to all women to be like Mary, mother of Jesus? who maintained her purity and virginity before the marriage
Or
Take the example of Joseph, the father of Jesus who was called as a Just man by God for he wanted to discard Mary, his would be wife secretly (with out maligning her name) when he found that she was pregnant before the marriage? Ofcourse later God revealed to Him that she is pure and was with child due to the work of God in her womb.
Does Christians of this age know there are somethings called as Virginity, Purity, Holiness, Justice and Mercy?
Beloved, do not imitate what is evil, but what is good. He who does good is of God, but he who does evil has not seen God. - 3 John 1:11
Does Christians have any good testimonies anymore? Anyway what is a good testimony these days for a Christian? - Being Rich in this world or Being Rich in the Lord?
Demetrius has a good testimony from all, and from the truth itself. And we also bear witness, and you know that our testimony is true. - 3 John 1:12
but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “be holy, for I am holy.
And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear; knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.
He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God. - 1 Peter 1:15-21
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God hates divorce