The Jehovah's Witnesses Religion Quickly Explained and Refuted
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I was born and raised JW (Fourth generation so we were really IN). Jesus saved me about 6 years ago. Your videos were pivotal in my waking process. Thank you Mike Winger for everything! Seriously you helped save my life and soul and I'm eternally grateful
I left seven years ago
@@eloisemartinez5301 Congratulations! Seriously. I pray my family would wake up every day. They are so blinded though. They rarely speak to me. It makes me so happy when I hear that others have gotten out. God has done an amazing healing in me but it was quite the process. God bless you!
@@Sarahopal most of the time it's people who get out become atheist and hate God so to see others who still believe in God and understand it's not God fault for that cult it's truly a blessing. Everyone I've ever known now shuns me. I have true freedom in Christ now though. It's so nice to meet you sis.. my testimony is on my channel as well
@@eloisemartinez5301 I will check that out! I love hearing ex JWs stories.
I tried the atheist thing but I just couldn't deny God. I searched desperately for "The Truth" for a while. I heard the song "Simple Gospel" and God took me on the most mind blowing path to Him. When we have been taught so thoroughly that everyone is lying, then find out our source of faith was a lie, it makes sense so many turn to atheism. Plus we were All horribly abused.
My dad's an elder in California (well on his way to traveling overseer). Last time I saw him I prayed God would give me words for him. I told him I'd found Jesus and He had totally changed my life, he said "well, just don't forget the Father" I said "how could I? I'd have nothing without Him. You know Jesus is the only way to Him though right?"
I pray a seed was planted.
(Sorry that's a long response and seems rambling. I am playing with grandkids and typing occasionally)
@@Sarahopal thank you so much for sharing your story. How absolutely beautiful that you were saved from this. Your testimony is so precious and I am so inspired by hearing your story about the seed you planted in your dad. 💜
My mom became a JW when I was 7. (7 years of birthdays and Christmas gone in one fell swoop and my sister didn’t celebrate her birthday until she was almost 30) My dad fought her about trying to indoctrinate me and my sister for years but finally gave into her and I was made to attend the Kingdom Hall. It was literal hell. I had nightmares for years about Armageddon. It caused so much damage to my family that I haven’t spoken to my mother in 12 years.
I’m going to try to reach out to her. I want her to have the peace that comes with knowing Jesus. The true Jesus.
Well, JW's have wrong doctrines, but so do most other churches. And Christmas IS a pagan holiday that the Romans slapped the name "Christ" on and called it "holy". Its not, and neither are birthdays-nowhere in the Bible does it say to celebrate Christ's birthday. But when Christ observed his last Passover (not "Easter"), that's what he told us to do: "Do this in memory of me", so that we would remember he was the lamb who was slain for us. In the Bible, evil pagan kings celebrated their birthdays and that's where we get that from. So you think you were missing out on paganism? Please, study your Bible and ask the Father to let His Holy Spirit teach you. It is the only way to escape false, erroneous or misleading teachings.
You are so abused, no Christmas, no celebrating pagan lies like Easter and Halloween, if you think meetings were bad, just wait until the Tribulation starts!
God bless you 😊 Its my prayer every day that my parents would know the love of Jesus. It breaks my heart that so many are blinded by that cult.
(It seems like there are a whole lot of them here in the comment section, just a heads up. They've been commenting on my post and it's crazy). I pray you are successful in getting through to your mom and God lifts the veil from her eyes 🙏
@@benhurn8277 Here's how you can tell how FALSE JWs are. The 144,000 JWs believe will rule over everyone with Jesus in heaven were/are spirit anointed by God (according to them). The numbers for these 144,000 were filled up 1919 until finishing in 1935 according to JW literature (see below). However these "spirit anointed ones" would most likely be disfellowshipped as apostates now in their own religion. They most likely at some point smoked, celebrated Christmas, birthdays, Easter, believed in the Cross, went to war, believed Charles "Taze" Russell was the "faithful slave", thought that Russell directed the religion even after his death, believed the Great Pyramid in Giza was a testimony to the Bible and its chronology, worshiped Jesus until 1954, claimed the KJ version was the perfect Bible, took blood, ect,ect,ect Pagans, pagans, pagans!!!
"Hence, especially after 1966 it was believed that *the heavenly call ceased in 1935."* Watchtower 2007 May 1 p.30
"Their being identified in 1935 as the great crowd of other sheep was an indication that the choosing of the 144,000 was then about complete." Revelation, Its Grand Climax Now at Hand p.125
"We understand that this heavenly calling continued down through the centuries, though during the so-called Dark Ages, there may have been times when the number of anointed ones were very few. With the reestablishment of true Christianity near the end of the last century, more were called and chosen. But it seems that *in the mid-1930's, the full number of the 144,000 was basically completed.* Thus there began to appear a group of loyal Christians with the earthly hope. Jesus termed such "other sheep," who unite in worship with the anointed as one approved flock." Watchtower 1996 Aug 15 p.31
@@Sarahopal People like you are so deceived you can't tell lies from truth! Winger is continuing the role played by the Pharisees of Jesus' day, making false claims to generate hatred against truth, spreading lies and doing Satan's work for him.
Christendom is the real cult as will be proven at the Tribulation when every bit of it will be destroyed.
I always invited JWs in in the past but also informed them upfront I held a separate belief system. Nothing wrong with offering a small kindness. Your teachings are helpful.
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+
They're not wrong about holidays being pagan in that Christian holidays were purposely made to be held on actual pagan holidays.
Funny how there are thousands of Christian denominations. All this confusion but god isn't the god of confusion, right?
@@salserokorsou .. do you think that God is responsible for people's choice when they choose a religion?
FYI - there are not thousands of versions of true Christianity - there is only one. - Ephesians 4:5
'one Lord, one faith, one baptism;'
The true religion is identified by its fruits and also its unity in obedience to the Christ and Jesus' teaching.
Who today are fulfilling Jesus' commission to make disciples and preach the "good news about God's kingdom"? - Matthew 24:14 Mark 13:10 Matthew 28:19 & 20
Which global organization has unity according to the scriptural requirement found at 1 Corinthians 1:10 and Hebrews 10:25
Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.
And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near.
Who really are God's witnesses?
“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah,
“Yes, my servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and have faith in me
And understand that I am the same One.
Before me no God was formed,
And after me there has been none.
11 I-I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”
12 “I am the One who declared and saved and made known
When there was no foreign god among you.
So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God."
@@VestalNumbre You quoted 1 Timothy, but what "scripture" was he referring to? The gospel tales weren't written then. He could only have been referring to the Hebrew scriptures, so how does that help your case? Also, 1 Timothy is a proven forgery. Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "We have already seen that supporters of Paul forged letters in his name. These pseudonymous authors obviously felt that Paul’s authority could prove persuasive in the context of the various controversies and struggles the Christian community was encountering. So we have a range of Pauline writings that he did not in fact write: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 3 Corinthians, letters to Seneca, and no doubt numerous other letters that have not survived from the early church." - Forged: Writing in the Name of God--Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are, pg 209
My grandmother was a Baptist deacon that knew the Bible inside-out back-to-front. Jehovah's Witnesses used to stop by her house all the time. Eventually they were instructed to stay away from her house.
Because they went in as Jehovah's Witnesses, and left as Christians after she was done with them.
Amen!
@larysnw418 JWs are not Christians.
@larysnw418 No, lary, JWs are not Christians. You have been shown this many time, and the ONLY thing your posts have EVER done is run away.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
by the higher-ups back in the JW's. Apparently a few of them told the leadership about this lovely lady that they had been having these discussions with, and she made enough of an impression that the JW leadership in the area wanted their folks that were going door-to-door to stay away from that address, because the people that visited her were starting to have reservations about the JW's. Same thing happened with mormons. @larysnw418
I am a Born Again Christian. Since the age of 16 I have had numerous contacts with JWs over the years. I love these contacts because they think they are trying to convert me but it is actually the other way round. I pray that seeds are sown to see the way of the Lord.
You should have a Bible study with them then and see how it goes.
@@watchman8644 It has gone bad.
That is when my exercise of refutation to the border of rebuke takes place,
@@watchman8644 Any reply?
200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6)
200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11)
200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7).
200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12)
200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25)
200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian)
200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21)
200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2)
200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6)
200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26)
200 AD Tertullian "For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a judge previous to sin" (Against Hermogones, Ch 3)
200 AD Tertullian "He will be God, and the Word - the Son of God. We see plainly the twofold state, which is not confounded, but conjoined in One Person - Jesus, God and Man.." (Against Praxeas, ch 27)
200 AD Tertullian "God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3)
They are Christian’s btw😂
I was a JW for 14 years. I was suspicious of many of the teachings even when I was in. In fact, I had some and got baptized in spite of that. The one thing I learned as a JW is to trust that voice in your head that’s telling you that’s something is not right and get away. I eventually listened to my voice and walked away and didn’t look back.
I'm glad to read that you are free.
@@jamesritter5078 You only THINK she is free, she will pay dearly for her alleged freedom.
@@truthbetold8610 - LOL! By walking away from both the multiple false teachings and the rigid control of the JW masters who demand that people be their thralls? Get real. It can't be anything other than WONDERFUL to be free from that.
@@jamesritter5078 You know nothing about JW teachings so your "knowledge" is based on lies from ignorant preachers like this fool, Winger.
Rigid control!? What a crock! You're too clueless to even comment.
You did the right thing.
*Do not join any church, denomination or sect...just worship Jehovah in spirit and in truth...obey Jesus our king.*
I've come to realized adult JWs raised as a JW have some of the worst cognitive dissonance and depression. Like any cult, leaving means cutting ties with your family and everyone you've grown up with and - since the community is so isolated - they are left with no one. Praying for my many brothers and sisters still suffering alone; inside and outside of this organization.
Please explain this "cognitive dissonance".
@@777Tralfaz777 I'm a former JW and have friends and family who are formerly and currently JWs. The cognitive dissonance I've seen manifest in current members results from the inability to hold any kind of relationship from people outside of the organization. An example would be my father, who I see 2-3 times a year. Each time he brings study materials so he has a reason to come but he misses his kids and grandkids and has a heart full of regret from not watching them grow up. JW congregations encourage this type of behavior and use scriptures like 1 Cor 5:13 and 1 Cor 15:33,34 to support the belief that they should isolate themselves from any type of non believer, non active member, or a member in danger of being marked or disfellowshipped.
@@James-xq1mp That is not what I understood cognitive dissonance to mean. Cognitive dissonance has to do with knowing one thing, but being taught and saying you believe something else. That manner of mental conflict.
It is not about following scriptural counsel, even though it is difficult.
@@777Tralfaz777 Correct. It is holding two conflicting beliefs in your mind. Whole heartedly believing that God didn't want to separate you from your family and believing that the JW organization is the truth is contradictory. Raymond Franz, the governing body member who resigned his position and left the organization, described the situation many JWs find themselves in as having to choose between loyalty to God and loyalty to religion.
@@James-xq1mp Matt 10: 34 Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it.
While we are sinners, and the spiritual man fights the physical man within us, JW do not teach inconsistent beliefs. Following your religion should be following God. Were you baptized as one of JW?
I am an exJW I can tell you that I’m so happy to be out of there, I’ve never been so bored in all my life. I gave up all festivals, I was completely brainwashed ! Broke down 😢 but this gave me my freedom. I really enjoy listening to you Mike so thank you 🙏
What festivals?
@@StretchMn Festivals = xmas birthdays Easter Mother’s Day. In fact the only celebration we were aloud to have in our lives was wedding anniversaries and the memorial. Hoping this gives you an insight of what it’s like on the inside.
@dinkytaylor1645 oh it does!
Christmas and Easter are almost purely pagan.
Halloween is purely demonic and pagan.
Why would a Christian want to celebrate them?
@@dinkytaylor1645You do know that all of those holidays you mentioned, are actually of Pagan origin. The Catholic church is responsible for making those holidays "Christian", to bring in followers.
@@hatred4humanity yes indeed I do know about the pagan festivals, I still satisfy my family and join in reluctantly. The anagram of santa is as you can see is satan 😱
You got almost everything correct, but the governing body is not in Brooklyn, NY anymore. They have moved to Warwick, NY. This is not a criticism. You are doing great work, but the current JW will pick up on this. I appreciate you caring about JW. I was raised a JW.
Show them, love. Most of them are good people. Thank you!
Thanks for the update!
I appreciate your comment. This bashing of other religions doesn't really help. I've never been JW, but I've known some who were examples of faith and love. Every denomination has its systemic errors of doctrine, and we all need to look at our own religions and lives and ask the Father to help us correct our own selves instead of pointing fingers.
@@MikeWinger Even the disciples of Jesus had wrong expectations, they believed Jesus was going to set up the Kingdom or Government right then and there and take away the oppression of Rome. But no it would be a while and more learning till they understood biblical prophecy.
@@benhurn8277 this bashing of others because you do not like what they say is very divisive and only serves the evil one.
The trinity message being perpetrated by certain Christian churches is only confusing their people and the result is that they do not understand who the Father or the Son truly are. This lack of accurate biblical knowledge will cause many to lose their way spiritually. It is a very sad thing to see those who are suppose shepherd their flock with accurate Biblical teaching using man-made teachings that do not stand up to scrutiny.
@@haroldhahn9387 So why do you say I am bashing people when my argument is against the trinity doctrine, not against individuals? People are bashing me for pointing out the falseness of the trinity and how wrong it is to mislead people into believing it. One can disagree with someone's doctrine without it equating to "bashing" the person. That is a problem in our society-people can't handle not being agreed with. Was Christ being divisive when he called out the Pharisees? The people who make up doctrines and present them as truth and demand that others believe in these false doctrines are the ones being divisive. They are cutting out the truth and replacing it with their imaginings, and this is dangerous to the flock. If not agreeing with false doctrine is divisive, let me be divisive then.
I was born and raised a JW also and left a few years ago, finding your videos helped me so much. It’s crazy how they’ve twisted the Bible
Congrats welcome to the true Kingdom assuming you have a testimony of Jesus Christ.
John 3:3
@@kjh4112 Ecclesiastes 5:2 Do not be quick with your mouth, nor let your heart speak rashly before the true God, for the true God is in the heavens but you are on the earth.that is why your words should be few.
Kim Sabbatino, if you accuse someone of twisting facts, you can't just leave it at that. You have to say how they have done this, otherwise everyone could say that about anything without needing proof
@@trkstatrksta8410 look into the jw teaching that ancient Jerusalem fell in 607 bc to get to their 1914 doctrine, they got it all wrong it fell in 586/587
Kim it is so sad that you think the JWs have twisted the Bible. I give you a challenged to try to prove that we have. I will answer any objection that you have.
I had a few JWs come up to me recently in the street but they didn’t even say they where JW. They started talking about the Our Father prayer and a couple very “Christian” things then invited me to their gathering. As a Catholic Christian I was happy to agree about the importance of scripture, prayer and living out the faith. It was only when I actually looked at the leaflet they gave me I clocked the logo
They said
Clocked the logo.
As in notice and recognise it:
And then basically reject it cause of how funny they run their belief system.
How does someone come to the conclusion that they were JWs? None of that experience smells of JWs behaviour.
@@jimjuri6490he said, when he looked at the leaflet. If someone hands you a watchtower leaflet, they're probably JW. Also, that seems exactly like what they do and to some extent I don't blame them, people are mean.
@@GreatDayEveryone : Plenty of people hand leaflets to people. Political agenda persons do.
I do not think JWs do such. JWs would explain the reason why they are preaching and then hand something over if the person is in a hurry for him to read later.
I was raised a Catholic and I used to recite the Our father prayer without paying attention to what the words were saying. It was not until I began to study with Jehovah’s Witnesses that I began to understand the scripture. As opposed to using a title. I learned that God has a name, Jehovah. Jesus in the model prayer hallowed God’s name. And he prayed that Gods will be done on earth be done as it is in heaven. Psalm 37:9,10,28,29 shows us that the wicked will be done away with and the earth will be made a paradise, just as originally intended. I am grateful that someone knocked at my door. I have a hope for the future and look forward to seeing my dead family members again. John5:28,29
That point about not letting them change the subject is so important. You cannot have a conversation with a JW in which they won't try to constantly change the subject. Every time you say, for example, "Well, the Greek word here that is translated firstborn means 'heir' and not necessarily the first person born." They will say, "Well, look over here where Jesus prays to Jehovah, how can He pray to Jehovah if He is Jehovah." So you explain that and they will say, "Well, over here...." They will do this for every objection you answer.
Scott - What you have written is very, very true.
Any dictionary will help with the definition of FIRSTBORN.
It is someone who is brought into existence FIRST in a line of siblings. There is no other meaning.
Because Jesus is God Firstborn, meaning, God created him First, he gets to be the Heir.
Col 1:16...all things were created FOR HIM.
Heb 1:2..God appointed Jesus HEIR.
Firstborn gets to BE the Heir. Firstborn doesn't mean Heir.
Why would people who cannot accept this truth want to change the meaning of Firstborn. In order to fool whom would be the question?
@@jimjuri6490 You have posted falsehood in the above. Here's how and why that's true: The word "firstborn" as used in Col. 1:15 has to do with supremacy. The contextual theme of Colossians 1:15-19 is that of the Supremacy of Christ. "Firstborn" is a Hebrew term having to do with rank, primacy, and supremacy. Vs. 15 is saying that Christ is the Supreme One over all Creation. That makes Him God. There is a different word for "first created", and that is the word Paul would have used if he wanted to convey the idea that Christ is a creation. He DOESN'T.
And here is something BIG: *Even the JW masters admit that "firstborn" has to do with supremacy.* “David, who was the youngest son of Jesses [sic], was called by Jehovah the “firstborn,” due to Jehovah’s elevation of David to the preeminent position in God’s chosen nation” (Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971, 584; emphasis added).
Israel is called God's “firstborn” in Exodus 4:22, but everyone knows that Israel was not the first nation created.
ADDED to this: In Revelation 1:5, Jesus is called “the firstborn of the dead,” even though He was not the first person to be resurrected chronologically. Of all ever raised, He is the preeminent One.
Romans 8:29 refers to Him as the firstborn in relation to the church.
In all the above cases, firstborn clearly means highest in rank, not first created.
@@jamesritter5078 : Please show me one example of FIRSTBORN not meaning first to be born or created INTO EXISTENCE.
Living in ignorance when a dictionary can be check with the click of a mouse is not saying much for some.
@@jimjuri6490 I just did in my previous post. And *even the JW masters admit that the word "firstborn" has to do with supremacy.*
Try actually _reading_ posts before you try to respond.
I met a few JW at a park and began sharing my testimony, not knowing that they were Jw. They told me they were and started trying to debate specifics about several subjects, but I just kept going back to “we can debate our entire lives and it would get us nowhere, how you know you’re born again is when the Holy Spirit is developing fruit in your life, Joy, gratitude, peace, etc etc” every time I said this they nodded and the man kept looking down. He knew I was right. I said everything in joy and love (praise be to God), I know they could feel my joy, and I could sense that they had no joy, in fact they seemed depressed. I don’t say that as a put down either. I know the Lord led me to meet them and share the gospel with them, He loves them. And though I couldn’t tell them anything that jw’s are specifically wrong about, the way The Lord used me to keep sharing about the fruit of the Holy Spirit was even better, instead of me vs them it became about the wonderful changes God has done in me. I know they could see the Holy Spirit in me and that they were missing out on it, hopefully they’ll seek Christ.
Then that shows the JWs have the truth. Because becoming a JW means producing good fruit. Jesus said in Mt. 7:13-23 that we can know the true religion based on that good fruit and whose not because of their rotten fruit.
That rotten fruit would be things like joining the military and fighting and killing in wars.
Supporting and allowing and condoning immorality and homosexuality and abortion. Plus smoking, drugs, over drinking, gambling, etc.
Being part of the world by voting and supporting/ running for office in politics.
And infusing paganism into their worship.
JWs do not.
So displaying the fruitage of the spirit requires changes and not doing the above.
@@StretchMn you are debating about specific things again. They did not have any fruit of joy, they looked depressed as I said. Being born again is not about one specific denomination, lots of people in every denomination including many people in jw’s are luke warm. The Bible says the luke warm will be spit out of God’s mouth. Several people of every denomination are wolves. Then there is the born again Christian, filled with the Holy Spirit. I believe there are born again people in every denomination, maybe some more than others but either way, God can reach anyone in anyplace. There’s lots of born again believers that are not even part of a church. God chooses. These are people that are passionate about God and show the fruit of change in their lives and the fruit of joy, peace, patience, etc. following specific things in the Bible does not make a person born again. One still must be filled with the Holy Spirit.
And I also do not celebrate pagan holidays or the other things you mentioned, because the Lord led me away from them right after I was born again. I did join the military, but that was before I was born again. The Lord led me out of that right before covid happened, praise Him because I’d have lost all my benefits had I stayed in, because I would’ve never taken that jab.
@@kristinaa9476 Thats good that you can see changing your life and being obedient to God is a must, and that you did.
But as for joy, JWs are the most joyful people as a group there is.
Everyone has moments of sadness and stress living in this wicked and imperfect. world
@@StretchMn thank you. I agree that we can’t all be joyful all the time.
@@kristinaa9476 JWs follow the command and example of Jesus and preach and go out everywhere they can to reach people.
Once in a great while, someone may be not as chipper as they could.
The fruits Jesus discussed applies to anyone who would want to follow Jesus.
So that's how know who is worshipping in truth, individually or a group.
The JWs are known for their determination and adherence to the scriptures and God's principles.
It's better when we can find common ground and be cordial. 🙂
I talked to some JWs at the park about a month ago for about an hour (emphasis on “I talked to”, as they really didn’t wanna talk). They kept telling that they weren’t really there to talk, but rather to hand out literature. After about 30 mins or persistence, they finally opened up a bit and explained to me that I was wrong about the trinity. My final question for them was “will I go to hell if I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness?” The older gentleman resorted back to the comfort of his original answer and said “the answers you seek will surely be on the websites listed in our brochures.”
That's because they are not there to argue. But the trinity is pagan and false.
And fortunately, you won't go to hell if you're not of Jehovah’s Witnesses. As there is no such place. You'll just be dead, cease to exist.
You asked "My final question for them was “will I go to hell if I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness?”"
Your concept of hell, or our, the JW view of hell? Which is mankind's common grave. All who go to hell are resurrected, with a chance to accept Jesus and his sacrifice. Then hell is thrown into the lake of fire.
KJV Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Those who go to Gehenna, which is also the lake of fire, will never come back. Gone forever.
@@StretchMn where were the Jehovah's Witness for the last 2,000 years? Who was the HOLY SPIRIT teaching during all that time?
John 14 : 16 says JESUS promised to sent the HOLY SPIRIT to his disciples and will be with them forever.
Mathew 16 : 18 says CHRIST promised to build his church and that it cannot die.
The weeds don't kill the wheat for both grow together.
@Episcopalianacolyte Where was the Episcopal church for the last 2,000 years?
Your church was only founded a 100 years earlier in 1789 in Philadelphia.
Actually, it's a good thing your church didn't exist that long, since your church accepts and promotes homosexuality.
Something Jesus finds disgusting.
Where where the Jehovah's Witnesses for the last 2,000 years? Luke 14 : 28 and 29
For which of you intending to build a tower, does not sit diwn first and estimate the cost, to see whetger he has enough to complete it?
Otherwise when he has laid a foundation and is unable to finish, all who will begin to ridicule him.
JESUS did the same with his church.
This explains why my neighbor didn't like me wishing him a happy Easter.
Yeah, because Easter is pagan, it's worldly or if you find it in your Bible and then figure out it's appropriate. Then challenge yourself. But you're gonna find that true. Christians were fighting against paganism. In other words, the current Christian mainstream. Or what we call Christendom. They are aligned or an opposition to true Christianity.. They believe in the doctrines of men.They do not believe holy in the bible.
So in your Bible John 14:28.
And no, they do not change the scriptures to force Jesus to be some kind of Trinity.
And you should do a step-by-step scripture.Comparisen as to who Michael the Ark angel is, if they are wrong about him.Why don't you tell your audience who he is
Are you religious organizations out there? No good and well Jehovah's witnesses have the truth. They're not aligned with the government. They're not into paganism or idolatry. All the things that you've learned. But you make up these twisted things with Trinity. Telling people they're gonna burn in hell. Corrupting the whole thing if Jesus were God. Why wouldn't he just say he was God?And why does he say that he works and was deployed by jehovah
Best to use scriptures,
You got some explaining to do! What does this mean?
1 Corinthians 15:23+
But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.(Revelation 14:1)21For since death came through a man, (Adam) the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.(Jesus)22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits;(RO. 5:17) then, when he comes, those who belong to him.24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.27For he "has put everything under his feet." [3] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
15:28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
Jesus said:
You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.
And when all things shall be subdued unto him (Jehovah)
Mike is a solid dude. Awesome video and cool to see God’s work in you. Also think it’s awesome defending JW as people when they’re mistreated at peoples’ doors. Keep up the good work brother.
Great content Mike. My mother is a fully devoted J.W. and it's really hard to reach her. I was raised in the J.W. organization. But I never got baptized. Now I'm a Christian and was baptized earlier this year. God bless you and everything you do to reach the lost.
Tell her to try to harmonize the contradicting nativity accounts of Matthew chapter 2 and Luke chapter 2. Oh wait but that would question all of christian dogma, not just Jws. My bad.
Well ask her why she isn't researching outside the church. If we should stay truthful why is her church afraid to do researching about their religion outside? What does she have to lose?
@@omarmunoz5787 it's pretty easy to harmonize they just emphasize different things
@@WildArtistsl We do. JW research what other denominations believe. That's why we don't leave the Kingdom Hall.
That Allen Parr is a great interviewer he keeps quiet and let's his guest talk. Great job Allen.
Thanks so much. Very helpful info and it explains why the two JW's that I know got so quiet when I was excitedly talking about Jesus and the Holy Spirit and my day of salvation that I remember so clearly.
Starting on the path to salvation is a fine thing. But our salvation happens when we endure.
(Matthew 24:13) But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.
Anna - Tralfaz is a JW and that is the reason for his post.
JWs believe that faith in Christ is just "the start" of salvation - After that, the JWs have a LOT of requirements for salvation that are not biblical. "Enduring" for a JW means receiving, believing and following all the things the JW "leaders" dictate to them.
@@jamesritter5078 Phil 2:12 Consequently, my beloved ones, just as you have always obeyed, not only during my presence but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
(Luke 13:24) “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able.
@@777Tralfaz777 That's talking about physically enduring the Great Tribulation, not general salvation. Salvation (justification) is a ONE TIME event (cf. John 3:14). Paul said to the Philippian jailer in Acts 16:31
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved." The word 'believe' is an AORIST imperative, signifying a COMPLETED event. If Paul had taught what the Watchtower (and other cults) erroneously teach, he would have used the PRESENT imperative, which would carry the meaning. "Keep on believing."
@@mitchmiller7204 What do you think "believe" means? Does it mean faith that leads to action? To following Jesus' example?
Did you see Phil 2:12?
I remember when i was a teen a JW came to my grandmas door and i answered it, i had no idea what they believed but he tried showing me some scripture and i told him we were already saved. She gave me a pamphlet and it was the watchtower. Later when my grandma came down stairs she saw it own the table and said "Who brought this witchcraft and blasphemy in my house" i got an ear full that we dont take the pamphlets from JW and we dont entertain their conversations. (Grew up COGIC)
your grandma is based
Your grandma is an actual soldier of Christ 💯🙏🏽
When someone tells a JW that he is already saved, it makes it obvious that that person doesn't know what the Bible teaches.
Saved from what they might ask. But that would embarrass people. So they give a bit of literature and leave.
@jimjuri6490 Alright go ahead How does somebody who says they're saved Not know the bible?
@@jacobmarkell2568 : First explain what SAVED means? Saved from what?
People who claim to be saved, should know what they are talking about, surely.
Based on the explanation, we can compare it with what the Bible teaches.
If you are thinking about joining the JW cult pleassssssse do your research!!
gb rethink your life
@@jerrychacon8814 I must have struck a nerve about the JW cult. You must be an indoctrinated JW cult member, it's 2022 the age of information how can you be this ignorant... now (you) rethink your life and the false prophecy doomsday cult you are involved with.
I did and I have
@@jerrychacon8814 you're perishing and afraid of the truth coward. All JWs are
Thank you! As an X Catholic married to an X SDA, we approve this message! The Governing Body, the General Conference, the Papacy, what could go wrong?
x catholic?
God created us to live in earth and fill the earth and also look after the animals originally.
True! God's purpose hasn't changed. It got postponed because of the rebellion.
(Psalm 37:29) The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
I'm the whole Bible believer, and I'm preparing for the conversation with JW. Thank you for all the precious information. God bless!
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I too am a whole Bible believer. What do you think Mike said that equips you to converse with us?
Do you believe this verse?
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
@@777Tralfaz777 You're not a bible believer.
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria [note: Clement NEVER calls Jesus a creature.] "There was then, a Word importing an unbeginning eternity; as also the Word itself, that is, the Son of God, who being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated." (Fragments, Part I, section III)
"that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Saviour, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh, He enacted the drama of human salvation: for He was a true champion and a fellow-champion with [ie. God among creatures, not that Jesus is classed as a creature] the creature." (Exhortations, Chap 10)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "I understand nothing else than the Holy Trinity to be meant; for the third is the Holy Spirit, and the Son is the second, by whom all things were made according to the will of the Father." (Stromata, Book V, ch. 14)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "When [John] says: 'What was from the beginning [1 John 1:1],' he touches upon the generation without beginning of the Son, who is co-equal with the Father. 'Was,' therefore, is indicative of an eternity without a beginning, just as the Word Himself, that is the Son, being one with the Father in regard to equality of substance, is eternal and uncreated. That the word always existed is signified by the saying: 'In the beginning was the Word' [John 1:1]." (fragment in Eusebius History, Bk 6 Ch 14; Jurgens, p. 188)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria 'For both are one - that is, God. For He has said, "In the beginning the Word was in God, and the Word was God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 8)
190 AD Clement of Alexandria "Despised as to appearance but in reality adored, [Jesus is] the Expiator, the Savior, the Soother, the Divine Word, he that is quite evidently true God, he that is put on a level with the Lord of the universe because he was his Son." (Exhortation to the Greeks, 10:110:1).
190 AD Clement of Alexandria "The Word, then, the Christ, is the cause both of our ancient beginning, for lie was in God, and of our well-being. And now this same Word has appeared as man. He alone is both God and man, and the source of all our good things" (Exhortation to the Greeks 1:7:1).
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 2)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "His Son Jesus, the Word of God, is our Instructor.... He is God and Creator." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 11)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This is the New Song, the manifestation of the Word that was in the beginning, and before the beginning. The Savior, who existed before, has in recent days appeared. He, who is in Him that truly is, has appeared; for the Word, who "was with God," and by whom all things were created, has appeared as our Teacher. The Word, who in the beginning bestowed on us life as Creator when He formed us, taught us to live well when He appeared as our Teacher; that as God He might afterwards conduct us to the life which never ends." (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This Word, then, the Christ, the cause of both our being at first (for He was in God) and of our well-being, this very Word has now appeared as man, He alone being both, both God and man" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "For it was not without divine care that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Savior, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made [made = appointed not created, ie. made king after resurrection.] equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 10)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 2)
200 AD Tertullian
200 AD Tertullian
200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6)
200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11)
200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7).
200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12)
200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25)
200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian)
200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21)
200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2)
200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6)
200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26)@@777Tralfaz777
The problem with deception is that people don’t realise that they are deceived 😢
The earth is not a spinning ball!
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr actually it is because the Bible mentions that the Earth is spherical.Isaiah 22:18 ESV / 14 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
And whirl you around and around, and throw you like a ball into a wide land. There you shall die, and there shall be your glorious chariots, you shame of your master's house
Except you of course
So true. We have been decieved about the globe earth since 1500s
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr amen brother. Bible is clear on that.
I too was born and raised a jw . I remember the day in March 2018 when I resigned from jw like. I took my NWT bibles, both the old black 1984 version and the grey one as well and made a fire to burn them. After I set them to flame and they started burning I felt remorse and started killing the flame to rescue the bibles. I started praying and asking God to forgive me for burnings the bibles. Then out of the blue I heard this very loud audible voice and it said “HE WHO DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON IS THE ANTICHRIST”. There was nobody near me to have said this and in fact the voice sounded exactly like my own, but very loud and audible. I thereafter continued burning the bibles.
Wait so why did you continue? I’m a little confused
@san-g he was burning the mistranslated JW bibles
@@san-g1344 I felt remorse so I stopped burning them. I thereafter continued burning them coz I heard Gods voice saying "HE WHO DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON IS THE ANTICHRIST. "(1 John 2v22). Gods voice confirmed that I was correct by getting rid of this mistranslation. That this translation is of the antichrist since it denies the Father and the Son.
That's awesome man. Yes people, God is still speaking today. But it won't contradict his true written word.
Praise be to God!!
Acts 19:18-20 KJV
[18] And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. [19] Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men : and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. [20] So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
My sister became a JW in her mid twenties. She craved the sense of "community" and belonging which they surely provided. HOWEVER, this community was/is largely confined to their JW network alone. At my nieces (sister's daughter's) high school graduation, my sister invited me to a celebration gathering-comprised almost exclusively of their JW friends. When it was "found out" that I was a family member and NOT a JW, the room suddenly fell silent. Of course, I didn't ask them why but I knew...
@larysnw418 can only report on what i saw.
...am not JW. I don't believe in most of their doctrines. However, they are everything but one thing: they are very loving people. I have been to vert racist countries but the most loving community will always be the JW community. They are nice people. BUT for their doctrines, which I don't agree with
Thank you.
I am sorry my name is Josephine it's me who commented not Joseph ,Joseph is my son and my you tube it's under his name I am one of Jehovah's witnesses let the Almighty God be the judge 🙏🙏
I was raised a JW by my father but wanted no parts of religion or their beliefs. That being said they are some of the nicest people on this planet. Always respectful and kind. I have been to numerous parties/events with a majority being JWs and even though they know I don’t agree they have always been respectful of my beliefs and never once tried to conform me or treat me any different
my grandpa is a JW and he has been his whole life, when my dad was younger and living with my grandpa he never got to do anything outside of school, not even school events, now that my dad is an adult and is raising 3 kids he lets me and my brothers do anything, im so glad that my dad didnt become a JW from the way he was raised as a child.
The name, 'Jehovah' when properly translated from old Arabic & Jansonite texts, means...Jesus WAS....past tense.
Do extra-curricular sports which make a person come in contact with drug takers and foul language users and immoral persons, be a privilege one's father bestowed on his kids?
Just wondering.
@@tongakhan230you sound so naive. The same people who act that way in sports are also in class and everywhere else in society.
@@HooDRidEWhiteY : I know! That is why Jesus told his DISCIPLES:
John 15:19 If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU ARE NO PART OF THE WORLD, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
JWs are hated because they are different.
@@tongakhan230 To reiterate a previous point, these types of people are prevalent everywhere in society, including the JW organization. The JW organization has even been open about protecting pedophiles from the law the same way the Catholic church does with their priests. Those scriptures used to isolate JWs from everyone else and elevate only JWs to a status of salvation are misused, since it is the organization that labels any non-JW as a wicked person - not Jehovah.
I’m really enjoying seeing all my favorite Christian UA-camrs getting together and teaching the word of God. Your platforms is growing really fast. God bless you brothers.
If you actually read The Bible, you will see these "Christians" in the videos are far away from being True Christians. Study and research Gods word, and pray to God to help you find him and to get closer to him with all, total sincerity and humility, and you will see and know (Psalm 1:1-6 [focus on #2], the "wicked" are all who don't "read [Gods word] in an undertone day and night" or those who don't come to an accurate knowledge of the truth).
@@markuse3472....You can study the Word of God for 30 years and not have it written on your heart. The Word of God needs to be written unto your heart as well as you studying it.
@@markuse3472....Glory unto God! Holy! Holy! Holy! Lord God Almighty!
Talking down about 1 cult while being in another cult. It's ironic really. Sad too.
Mike that was such a good discussion.
Want to wake my Dad (JW) up , but it’s been over 50 years !!
I have to leave it in Gods hands and carry on praying for him.
Blessings from the U.K.
let him be saved from judgement John 5:24
@Lisa Bates Zeus works weekends, beside the other gods are too busy finding car keys and killing tiny infants on the African continent. If your god was a woman, she could multitask. Bad luck.
Hello Lisa, how are you doing?
I am a Christian, married a Christian, and now he's a JW. How effective is my marriage. How does my husband view me not being in the Truth? I truly need to know.
@@vanessapeterson4418 Biblically, marriage is marriage. The two of you disagreeing on whether Jesus is "God the Son" or "The Son of God" is certainly an important topic, but not one that nullifies marriage vows (biblically).
It is a topic that would be best to respectfully discuss. ... but... actually respectfully. Not condemning someone for disagreeing on which scriptures should be taken more literally.
My aunt became one back in the 50's, we loved her but dreaded her coming to family gatherings, where she would start into it. I loved my cousins, but it seemed like something was wrong with them. It became only funerals and weddings they came to in later years, she passed a few years ago, now mom is gone, and several of them are now former JW's. Thanks for the video Mike.
Yes..,(sigh) they tend to DO THAT
MY SISTER IN LAW😞
However, when some leave JW..they don't become Christians right away
😂😂😂😂every time these JW came to our gate / Doors knocking we would run away and close up the house
Ever wondered why people leave the confused churches and become JWs? John 8:31,32.
@@jimjuri6490 I would say Jesus is not confusing at all.
The Unbelief of the Jews
… John 8:58 ►
(Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD. "John 10:29My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.” 31At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.…32But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?” …33“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”…
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+
This was meaty thank you!
As a former JW, his second coming was invisible never made much sense... but I believed it for 30 years. I was taught to HATE the cross, I now feel so very different. I wear the cross because of what Christ did on the cross so I can have eternal life. They are a very cruel cult behind closed doors. Even though I was called all kinds of names by householders at the door, I actually do miss going door to door. Most people today, don't want to talk about the Bible....never thought I would miss that. Thanks for posting 🥰😍🤩
You can still go door to door to spread the gospel (:
Love one another,
Former jw I have the same ideals as what you said. I praise Jesus I can now speak openly about His love for me
To all the people on here who were once Jehovah's witnesses welcome to the family of Christ. Now do you all believe now what we said before that Christ Jesus himself is God In the flesh and he claimed it. Jesus said that he was the way the truth and the life, not the watchtower or the magazine that they use. The watchtower has told you guys to reject what scripture says, because it doesn't fit their doctrine. I spoke to a Jehovah's witness woman couple weeks ago as a matter of fact, and she said that Jesus is not God but he created being, I asked her to show me where it says that she said in Colossians 1:15. Today you guys are all going to learn something, the term first born does not mean first created it means preeminence prototokos in Greek. Also I'm so glad that you left your organization, and here's why. In your organization they have said that Jehovah God is never called mighty because that would make him less powerful but here's what their flaw is Jeremiah 32:18 in the New World Translation verifies that Jehovah by name is mighty, so does Deuteronomy 10:17 in the New World Translation. They told you for the longest time that Christians like myself pastor Mike winger Alan Parr, Dr James White Peter, Paul, thomas, matthew, matthias, John etc we're all wrong and rewrote the Bible. That is simply not true at all, the Bible has not been rewritten over time there has been spelling errors, however the Bible has not been rewritten over time. The original copies that we have are the original Hebrew copies and the Greek New Testament copies we have English Spanish all these other languages but they're the original language of the Greek and Hebrew. We Do not bow down and worship the cross the cross is a symbol of what Jesus Christ did for us on the cross at Calvary. They also told you that Christ Jesus did not rise physically from the dead when he did he appeared before his apostle showing his hands and feet to them, he asked Thomas to touch him the wound in his side and the nail marks in his hands and feet so he may believe, they also said that Thomas was using a cuss word when he wasn't he called Jesus my Lord and my God Jesus never rejected him for saying that. They also said it was wrong to claim that Jesus Christ himself should be worshiped even though Jesus is worshiped by all apostles all men and even the angels in heaven, Jesus is omniscient he's omnipotent and omnipresent, Jesus said wherever two or three are gathered in my name I will be there, he said I will be with you always even to the end of the age. Jesus offers eternal life not the watchtower and I'm so proud of all of you for leaving and getting out of there, Jesus is our great God and savior who was who is and who is to come the almighty God of the Old Testament. Jesus claimed in Revelation 22:13 that he was the Alpha and the Omega the first and the last quoting Isaiah 44:6 the beginning and the end. Jesus said that he shares the same Glory with God the father in John 17:5, he also said that him and the father are one in nature and essence. Titus 2:13 says we are waiting on our blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and savior Jesus Christ. In Colossians 1:15 verse 17 it says that Jesus created all things whether thrones or dominions or rulers are all principalities Jesus is the Lord of all. Romans 9:5 says that Jesus Christ is God over all, Philippians 2:5 says before Jesus took on human flesh he existed in the form of God, Philippians 2:11 says every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord which is the name of God according to Psalm 83:18 and every knee shall bow before him in heaven on Earth and under the Earth. Jesus said no one has ever seen the father but God in the Old Testament was seen but it was not the father how awesome is that how awesome our God is that he can be the father Son and Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:30 says do not grieve the holy spirit of God, Acts chapter 5 verse 3 and verse 4 says and this is Peter speaking he says to Ananias why has Satan giving you the ability to lie to the Holy Spirit, you have not only lied to men but to God. Jehovah's witnesses told you in the watchtower told you that the Holy Spirit was God's active Force, my question is how can you lie to an active Force you can't Peter just verified and also Ephesians 4:30 just verified that the Holy Spirit himself is God. I'm so proud of all of you for giving your life to Christ and repenting and turning away from this false organization, pray for those who are still in this organization who are listening to these lies this deceit. Pray to the Lord and ask them to come out ask the Lord to please harden their hearts to understand and come to the knowledge of Truth and have them turn away from this organization. Pray for them all. And like I said to all of you thank you for giving your life to Christ, also you will never be shunned by your true Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, you are now Brothers and sisters in Christ. I will tell you right now as Christians, pastor Mike winger and I and Allen Parr are all here to answer whatever question you are not understanding and we are not going to be upset with you and we are not going to shun you for asking asking a question that is ridiculous.
His second coming is Armageddon not 1914, you should know that by now.
Random to post here...but, I did watch and enjoy this video, too. I just wanted to say Happy Easter to you Mike.
I gain so much from your online ministry, am strengthened in mine through you, and keep thinking and growing as the Holy Spirit works to preserve and sustain me through your Bible studies and research.
Thank you for all of it, every video, every topic, every post. The victory is ours...paid in full. He is risen!
He is risen indeed. Alleluia!
Easter is the pagan goddess of fertility. Just letting you know so you can stop observing a holy day to a false god. Christ died on Passover and rose on the feast of first fruits.
@W. R.
Easter is a pagan holiday. Shows you’re not a real Christian.
@Dixie Hall
Jesus is risen, meaning he’s been resurrected. Who resurrected him? Acts 2:24 says God resurrected Jesus. Acts 10:40; Romans 8:11; Hebrews 13:20; all show the same thing.
Hallelujah is an abbreviation for Praise Jah, or Hail Jehovah. So you’re saying praise Jehovah for resurrecting Jesus. I would agree with that.
@@watchman8644 Easter is Christian.
Seriously, Pastor Mike… WELL DONE. You absolutely nailed everything.
I was raised JW, and I’m really impressed. Also, this was handled with love. I wish I could get my mom to watch your “pagan channel”.
😂 🤦🏻♀️
I couldn't get my sister in law to neither..
She's been married 50 years to a husband who never went inside one
Psalms 83:18 Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God's Glorious, Majestic name for eternity. The Almighty Father of Jesus. John 1: 14, 18 1 Peter 1:3 Colossians 1:3 John 6:57,58 Matthew 6:9,10 Matthew 17: 17 John 17:3 Revelation 3:12
Jesus is our Lord. Our Head and Leader as Christians
1 Corinthians 3:23 and 11:3
@@patchooo84 Ed, JWs aren't Christians. Neither are you.
@@jamesritter5078 JWs are Pre Catholic Christians....
You wouldn't understand jr
and yet its said how you readily accepted it without question
I've only seen a few clips of this channel, most of them preaching things i don't agree with, but i gotta be fair and say that this was really well informed. Now, i'm no witness, but i do follow a lot of ex-jws, and what you say hits the nail. So good job spreading the right ibformation about the organization. Hopefully one day people won't be tricked by it anymore.
Mike, thank you so much for this! I have been witnessing to my coworker who is a 3rd generation JW. My heart has such a compassionate burden for her.
Indeed. I was briefly involved with them as a child....many of their beliefs are dark and they are definitely a type of cult. Any religion that doesn't teach people to love each other is a false one, and they talk about being massacred and that one should have any regret about all those deaths as they were enemies of God. I hope your coworker doesn't adopt deicide...that was one of the ideas that really made me realize how dark and false they are. It's the belief that one should hate Jews because they supposedly murdered Jesus of Nazareth. :-O
Those who are saved by Grace , the word Grace is derived from the 3 PAGAN GODESSES of Greek Mythology , the Graces ? ? ? A LITTLE LEAVEN FERMENTS THE WHOLE LUMP ? ? ?
@@neutrino78x With what proof do you back up that statement that JWs do not teach love?
JWs do not not get involved in politics, which is divided in hate and anger. They do not go out and protest, which is divided in hate and anger and violence. They do not join or support in the military and wars, which is divided in hate and anger and violence and killing.
But every other "christian" religion does. Which means Catholics kill Catholics, Protestants killing other Protestants, Mormons killing other Mormons, and non-denominational killing other non-denominational. Jesus commanded his followers not be part of the world.
JWs are known for their preaching and teaching. Something Jesus commanded to do. Which shows their love for others, as they want everyone to know the truth.
Jesus said you would know the true religion by its fruits. A good tree produces good fruit and a rotten tree produces rotten fruit. As we are all imperfect and fall short, JWs then are the most loving organization there is. All the others will be asking Jesus why they aren't saved at the end.
(See Mt. 7:13-23)
JWs are not happy when people die. But there is a scripture that does say those who live by the sword will die by the sword. (Mt. 26:52) So violent people may die violently. Thats sad, but its what happens because of their choices.
So JWs do not hate people, they hate the bad that they do. But each one will be judged for his or her actions. And what those particular Jews, and those pharisees, did in having Jesus beat and killed was despicable. These were the ones that Jesus called offspring of vipers for their attitudes and actions.
Hello Jackie,how are you doing?
@@neutrino78x Wars in the Bible, are by God not man, God has perfect justice, he knows when and were to act you cannot tell him 'no God don't do this or that.' JW never fight in modern day wars, in WW2 Catholic, Protestant, and mormon Americans, killed German and Italian Catholics, Protestant and mormon brothers and other religions. An identifying mark of a true christain is love, these religions were not showing love at all, JW didn't kill each other or anyone else.
Great works brothers.
Allen I always admired you and Mikes work on this matters
Y'all are truly doing the Lord's work. And for that I thank you both
well done for breaking down many false teachings and explaining them. it really takes a depraved mind to create a religion like this, and we can say with authority that the founders and collaborators of this insane religion are deeply in (and are bound to) the hell they "preach" doesn't exist.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
His grace and mercy be upon you guys and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
Thank you , I didn’t even realize all of this when I was a JW. Thank God, I came out of it.
THERE IS ONLY ONE JEHOVAH, OUR FATHER! ISA 45:18 - “I AM JEHOVAH, and there is NO ONE ELSE."
@@mr.d.c.1914.1 If that's not the most self explanation of a scripture
I’m still confused on JW beliefs about Jesus. Is Jesus “a god” or not divine at all?
@@mr.d.c.1914.1 Is yahwey and Yahweh is in Greek Lord . God is oneness .. don't be like a Muslim and read exodus 3
@@albusai Lord is Adonai. Jehovah is GOD's name and appeared in the Bible about 7k times
Hello 🤗 thank you Jesus for another great and wonderful day 🤎
Thank you so much for sharing this and yes I agree. I do believe the Lord knew ahead of time people would pervert the gospel, and I think it's cool that some of these scriptures are pre warning ⚠️ thank you for sharing this 😇
God bless you 😇💕
Keep up your important work ❤
Thank you for this. It just popped up today in my random YT home feed. A couple days ago someone asked me about JW, I responded, but no where near the summary you have provided and have forwarded this to that person.
For myself, if JW got the Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey wrong, it is down hill from there.
Bless YHWH and YHWH bless you.
@John carlen
Jehovah's Witnesses were not the ones who translated the Tetragrammaton to English. Since it was already translated to English as Jehovah, they did use it in their English translation of the Bible.
That being said, what do you know about translation to make such a statement or have such a stand?
Also, pretty much everything in this video is false which I and others have proven with many scriptures in multiple threads.
@@watchman8644 the NWT is the worse translation of the Bible since the NIV. Do the homework.
John 8:58 - "I have been"
The Greek of this text is abundantly clear:
... πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί. = before Abraham became, "I Am".
The tense of the last two words is simple present tense and CANNOT be translated (as per NWT) "I have been", which is a version of the past tense. It is simply bad translation. As someone with a one year study of Greek/Latin/Italian, yes, this is just awful. So corrupt and adjusted for motives of men.
in the end times there would be doctrines of devil's and many would be deceived
God bless you!
Ex Jw here! So glad I left! So blessed to know the truth now.! Praise the Lord!
I’m so happy for you! What prompted you to change? Would love to hear your story. 😇
Same
@@Manny650 (XJW) 🙂 you’re x JW as well? Would love to hear your story as well!
God bless and keep you always Cyn95.
Gilly wife of Mark
@@Manny650 ....God bless and keep you Manny ......the truth has set you free !!
Grace and peace to all.
Gilly wife of Mark
It wasn't having the theology refuted that got me out of being a JW, it was the feeling of having to earn your place in the congregation, all those hours in service, and the feeling that you could slip up and be labelled "bad association" so easily. It was exhausting.
Then I read H M Sealey's Kingdom Rising series and I saw, in her fictious cult "the called and chosen" everything the JWs were, and I realised with massive relief, that that wasn't the way.
This passage really spoke to me.
"Life in the Called and Chosen was a never-ending uphill trudge of proving oneself better than everyone else, of being more holy and more righteous and more hard-working and more humble and thus bringing glory to the name of the church.
Yet what she did one day counted for nothing the next, not unless it was something bad, and then it would haunt her forever. There was no way of storing up points, every day was a clean slate, and the possibility of displeasing the elders each time the sun rose was a constant reality.
Maddie had seen people serve the Called and Chosen tirelessly for years, even decades, then to slip up just once, and lose their respect and their place in the congregation.
And it was so easy to slip up. A wrong word, a wrong thought, wearing a skirt an inch too short, showing sympathy for a sinner, missing a meeting at the hall, questioning a doctrine, the list was endless.
She had never had a break. Never simply stood outside and listened to the birds or watched the flowers. The world, she had believed, was evil, and the only safe place was in that miserable Fellowship Hall where the women watched for weaknesses in their brothers and sisters like hawks in pearls and sensible shoes."
Thank you for sharing this. It is a VERY good read.
@elsiesaunders4607. The problem would be trying to get them to read something like that. I'm happy that God used that to bring things into focus for you!
Great stuff Dr Winger! You are a God send! I used to be a JW. I was baptized in 1989 and a few years later, I left the organization in 1993. It has been a nightmare the whole time I was studying, on the Theocratic Ministry School. They used their faith towards work based principles. Which is a great way of discipline. However, to associate yourself as "The faithful and discreet slave", turned me away! It is 2023, why are going back towards slavery!Most of the members are nice down to earth individuals, however they are brainwashed and maybe consciously unaware this sanction is a cult. From them I been called an apostate, because I don't agree with their doctrine. I want to be as real as possible. I miss having that one on one relationship with my mom and sister. Any faith or denomination that separate you from your family, is a red flag for me. Glad I left them! You are right. We have to approach them with love!
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Hi, I got baptized in 1999 . I was searching for truth and thought that I had found it in JW and in 2010 I found out that it was like a cult. Did you rebaptize? I would like to know if I have to rebaptize as I have now found the truth , that my salvation is based on my faith in God coming to earth in the fleshly form as Jesus . He came down to earth , became my sin , He suffered and died on the cross to redeem me to Him.
@@blessed3516 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
@@blessed3516 you've been duped. your false religion REJECTED the Father as Salvation. REV 7:9-10
Amazing video. Great job!
Hi Mike and everyone! God bless you so much Mike for these videos. I can see your effort you put in them with passion and from your heart. Honestly, you are helping me learn about JW's so much and I need this because my next door neighbour of nearly 2 years are close friends of mine for just over 1 year now and it's been really tough for me during our discussions on the Bible together to prove to her the right way is Jesus and to explain the Trinity to her. I realised that I can't continue discussing further with her until I properly study the Bible more myself and get a better understanding of how to preach to JW's. It's so sad and it really upsets me how they have such a veil on their eye's and how they think they are the chosen children of God :( Anyway, I pray and believe Jesus Christ will unveil their eyes soon, so thank you for your videos and I thank God for you as your such a blessing. GBU!
If you study the scriptures you'll see how wrong the trinity is
Use their own Bible. Isaiah 9:6 New World Translation (JW bible)
For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, *Mighty God, Eternal Father,* Prince of Peace.
(the very next chapter speaking of God) Isaiah 10:21 Only a remnant will return,The remnant of Jacob, to the *Mighty God.*
God in Mighty God used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 is the same as God for Mighty God in Isaiah 10:21 (Hebrew el)
Luke 8:39 NWT (JW bible) “Go back home, and keep on relating what God did for you.” So he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city what Jesus had done for him.
"Now the Lord ("Jehovah" in JW's bible) is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17
Do let up. Keep asking them how many God's are there? Is Jesus a false God? Don't let them change the subject. The bible calls Jesus a "Mighty God", their own Bible. Either Jesus is God or a false God. It works out poorly for them either way.
@@wylolister3218 Again, 1 Cor. 8:5,6 says there are many called gods, but actually to us one God, and it is the Father.
So while many are called gods, there is one we worship.
Like Jesus himself told us at Mt. 4:10 and Jo. 17:3. Did Jesus lie? If course not!
God, lord, father, son, shepherd, Savior, king, etc are titles, and apply to many. None of that makes them all God.
Instead of using man-made philosophies, use the scriptures.
Jesus never once called himself the God, but he did call Jehovah the only true God. And Jehovah called himself the only God, many times.
@@wylolister3218 Luke 8:39 Your understanding of this Scripture is narrow minded. Here there are two different points of view. First, Jesus gives credit to the one who gave Jesus the authority to expel demons so Jesus gave credit to the Father.
The formerly demon possessed man related what he experienced, that Jesus expelled the demons, he is not calling Jesus God.
2 Cor, 3:17 Why did you leave out the second occurrence of "Jehovah" and change it to Lord? So you can try to prove something that isn't there? You want it to appear that Jesus is Jehovah, which he isn't, so you prove nothing.
@@StretchMn Jesus never once used the name "jehovah". Even JWs call "jehovah" a "misspelled & mispronounced" name for God, they even produced literature calling it a "blunder". "Yahweh . .. is admittedly superior to Jehovah. *'The wrong spelling Jehovah* occurs since about 1100' and then it offers its arguments in favor of Yahweh as the correct and original pronunciation." - Let Your Name Be Sanctified, Jehovah's Witnesses, p 16-20 (JW literature)
(JW literature) AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING 1971 Watchtower and Bible Tract Society p884-885 - literature elaborates as to its Catholic origin in 1270:
By combining the vowel signs of 'Adho.nay and 'Elo.him' with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho.wah' and Yehowih' were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form "Jehova(h)." The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. *Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation.*
"jehovah" = misspelled, mispronounced name for God! A false name.
The only way to get rid of a false name for God is to quit using it.
They published a "worldy" Bible that says the name Jehovah was a "blunder." See JWs own Byington Bible in Living English, published by WBTS (1971ish), page 7, on your WT Library CD (this is in the intro so is conveniently been left off the JW dot Org website). (thanks Lee)
*"As to the Old Testament name of God, certainly the spelling and pronunciation "Jehovah" were originally a blunder."*
God wants his name to be known as a "blunder'? Seriously?
JW produced literature calls it wrong, misspelled, mispronounced and a blunder, seriously a "blunder"!!!
Having trouble finding the interlinear on the JW library app. Just had a couple come to my door and I would like to better prepared next time, ( 2 Timothy 2:15) Able to give an account in and out of season. Thank you. Does anyone have a link for the physical copy as well.❤
If you want to handle the truth aright, don't believe Winger or the trinity or pagan celebrations.
Hi. Mark/StretchMn is a JW and that's the reason for his post.
I would recommend that you go to places such as the Christian Apologetics and Resource (or Research) Society and look over the articles there.
@@StretchMn "If you want to handle the truth aright, don't believe Winger or the trinity or pagan celebrations."
Do believe Winger, the trinity, and Christian celebrations.
Hello Mike! Thank you for your insight because I am trying to figure out how to evangelize to family members who are brainwashed. Great point on loving them as well as focus on one argument using their materials.
I believe Mike has videos on what you mention in your post.
Nah this is a cult lol
They are heretics nothing more, they deviate completely from the Bible and altered it to fit their narrative. That sacrilege is plain based heresy.
But treat them like misguided humans, despite they’re committing a huge major sin.
The word Cult usually is used in a negative connotation as if the person using it only learned the word through stories like “the kool aide drinking cult” or like something out of paranormal activity or a witches coven or something. Christianity is definitionally a cult. A cult simply means you follow one being or person or thing religiously. So if you’re a Christian you’re apart of a cult.. and there’s nothing wrong with that. Then in contrast, free masonry ISNT a cult. A lot of people use the word as a synonym to something like evil pagan brainwashed sacrificial group lol
Damn tooting I 👍
@@blackridgeproductions2738 Free masonry is a cult. One of the biggest fastest growing having two bibles one which follows “god” and one who follows government. There’s a scripture somewhere where God Jesus Christ says not to follow man but to follow him as man lead you astray.
All religions are cults
Just stumbled on your page accidentally.
You got yourself a new subscriber to the channel.. So excited to learn more here.
Mike Mike Mike
All Theology Majors
And Bible Students know Jehovah's Name is in ALL Bibles
Don't be disingenuous
God"s name is in your Bible.
Stop the Scandalous Misrepresentation
Genesis 22
Jehovah Jireh
“Jehovahjireh” appears only once in the entire Bible-in Genesis 22:14 (KJV). It means “God provides.” Genesis 22: 14
Psalms 83:18
The name of Good King Jehoshaphat means
"God is Judge, Has Judged"
Jehoram (meaning "Jehovah is exalted" in Biblical Hebrew) was the name of several individuals in the Tanakh.
Jehoiachin means "May God establish"
Jehioakim : God Avenges, God Stands up
Jehoiadah : Yahweh knows
From Hebrew Yəhōyādhāʿ “Yahweh knows
What is the meaning of Jehonadab?
Jehovah is willing
Jehonadab (Hebrew: יְהוֹנָדָב; meaning Jehovah is willing; Latin: Jonadab) was the son of Rechab. He is mentioned in 2 Kings 10:15-31.
Jehoash:
Yahweh has given
Jehovah-shammah is a Christian transliteration of the Hebrew יְהוָה שָׁמָּה (Yahweh šāmmāh) meaning "Jehovah is there", the name given to the city in Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 48:35.
Jehovah-nissi According to Exodus 17:13-16 in the Bible, Jehovah-nissi is the name given by Moses to the altar which he built to celebrate the defeat of the Amalekites at Rephidim
Jehovah Rapha
Jehovah-Rapha?
God is known by many names in the Bible. Each name reveals a certain aspect of His character. Jehovah-Rapha is one such name found in the Old Testament and means “The God who heals” in Hebrew.
Jehovah Shalom” is Hebrew for “the God of peace.” Now, the first appearance of the name Jehovah Shalom is in the Old Testament story of Gideon in Judges 6.
@@patchooo84 a seriously long answer there
This is super helpful. Thank you for breaking this down concisely.
Helpful in proving JWs right.
@@StretchMn what?
This video showed JWs are right and Mike misquotes and misrepresents.
@@StretchMn false
@@xspiritanimalx Yes, Mike is. He even admits it.
My two favorite UA-cam preachers together!!
God bless you Mike... Praise Jesus
Allen REALLY contributed in this video!
Thank you for this 🙌🏼
FYI: Hi Mike, I just came across your UA-cam channel yesterday. Just wanted to inform you that The Watchtower is no longer in Brooklyn NY. They moved to Warwick NY, years ago. Thanks for your clarification on the JW’s and the Trinity. I can now explain it using your explanation. God bless you! 🙏🏽
That should show you how inaccurate his statements are. He is an ignorant phony who knows nothing but lies about JW's and thinking the trinity is real proves how useless his words are.
Look at Acts 2:55, who did a Stephen see in a vision? The glory of God and Jesus at his right hand. Where was the Holy Spirit if it’s a this person? Maybe he was busy at the moment?
Sorry Acts 7:55
Here is what your JW masters have officially admitted to about the word "Jehovah": In the introductory material in the Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures published by the Watchtower Society, on page 23 of the 1969 edition, it says: "While inclining to view the pronunciation 'Yahweh' as the more correct way, we have retained the form 'Jehovah' because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century."
Let's be clear about this: They're pretty much saying, "Since we've been mispronouncing God's name for a long time, we might as well keep on doing it".
For a group that has made and still makes such a HUGE deal about Jehovah being the true and proper name of God and must be used, that simply, flat out doesn't make sense.
Or, what about another Watchtower publication, "Aid to Bible Understanding", which says on page 885 of its 1971 edition that Yahweh is "the most likely pronunciation" of the Hebrew letters YHWH.
Same point as before.
If Jehovah's Witness leaders were saying almost 50 years years ago that "Yahweh" is the more correct pronunciation, then why has not the organization started calling itself "Yahweh's Witnesses"? Shouldn't they be using the correct pronunciation? Even the JW masters admit that "Jehovah" isn't correct.
Here's another quote from your JW masters: "Yahweh . .. is admittedly superior to Jehovah. 'The wrong spelling Jehovah occurs since about 1100' and then it offers its arguments in favor of Yahweh as the correct and original pronunciation." (Let Your Name Be Sanctified, Jehovah's Witnesses, p 16-20) See the words "wrong spelling" there? That is an absolutely SPECTACULAR admission on the part of your masters!
Here's another quote from your masters: "The first recorded use of this form [Jehovah] dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish [Roman Catholic] monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270 C.E." (Aid To Bible Understanding, 1971, p. 884-5).
So - The word "Jehovah" was made by a Roman Catholic monk in the middle ages. So, whenever the JW cult insists and demands about the word being the true and proper name of God and must be used, they are insisting and demanding using a word that came by way of someone who was a devoted member of the Roman Catholic Church!
I believe that truth is simple,only lies are complicated.The more complicated a statement,the more it diverges from the truth.
For this reason I have no reason to believe any religion.
Occam's Razor pretty much covers that.
@@austinperkins8348 Especially Humanism I hope.
Is he the first born of all creation or not?
@Denise Hall
Like the trinity doctrine, one of the biggest lies of all time?
Hi! I only want to tell you about an incident that happened one night at my job as an RN. (but the text ended up way long!) One of my patients that night needed to have a Foley catheter placed, for whatever reason. I think it was because she couldn't pee on her own due to a UTI. In any case, she refused to allow me to insert one. In an hour or so, she was complaining that her discomfort was worsening. We weren't swamped that night so I went to her & we had a fairly long discussion. She told me that she was a JW & that placing a catheter up inside her BLADDER would keep her from entering Paradise, forever! I explained 9 ways 'til Sunday WHY the doctor ordered it & why it was necessary for her health & comfort, & that a Foley catheter has NOTHING to do with sexual behavior!! There's nothing dirty about it! Plus I had the MWS book Friends Are Friends..., essentially a topical Bible. I went through passage after passage from the aspect of several topics which could pertain to her situation. (I used that book at work so much that it began to fall apart! It was the perfect size to fit in a pocket of my scrub tops!) It took several hours for her to be in sufficient pain for her to finally agree, & to accept that placement of a medical device would NOT make her ineligible for Paradise! She felt such immediate relief! I was so thankful the Lord had used me & my little book to help this sweet little old lady! Little did I know that a few MORE hours later, near the end of that 12-hr shift, she was crying her eyes out, "because now I'll never be allowed into Paradise!!" Such a sad, but true, story! That was over 20 yrs ago, & my memory isn't so great anymore, but 75% or more of the detailed memory of that story is still as fresh as if it happened THIS MORNING! I don't understand HOW or WHY any "religious higher-up" would not only allow a member to deny anything to lessen pain & improve health, but essentially ORDER them to refuse that help! I realize that sometimes God allows us to go through hard times, but He doesn't say, "don't use those doctors & nurses whom *I* have called for just such a purpose! Don't use any of the "miraculous" treatments or devices that *I* led these professionals to find or invent! Just go ahead & hurt! Let it go untreated! Either way, you're gonna die one day anyway!" It reminds me of the guy whose boat is sinking & he can't swim, so he prays "God, save me!". In time a fisherman in a rowboat stops to rescue him, "no thanks, I'm waiting for God". Then a sporty cruiser stops, "no thanks..." lastly a big fancy yacht stops, but gets the same "no thanks..." the 1st two got. The man goes down for the last time & he comes to at the foot of the Throne & yells at God, "WHY didn't You save me? I prayed & had faith that YOU would save me! But You didn't!! WHY?? That would've been a great ending to my testimony!" God replied, "who do you think sent the rowboat, the cruiser, & the yacht?" JW's, & a few other denominations i know of & some I've worked with, sound an awful lot like this ungrateful man! Similarly a SDA new grad who said, "IDKY Y'all keep going on about "getting saved"! Jesus died for everyone, so everyone is saved!" You know, I may not understand EVERYTHING the Bible tells me, but I don't skip it, or worse change it, just b/c I don't understand! That's not a publishers-problem or a God-problem! That's a ME problem! And I need to "be a Berean", keep at it, read it, praying for wisdom, until I DO understand, or until God says I don't NEED to understand it, yet! BTW, if it matters, I am somewhere between S. Baptist & Independent Baptist. I knew nothing but SBC as a child & teen, before the organization became politicized! I live in the Buckle of the Bible Belt,
@larysnw418 I'm only telling you what the lady told me herself.
Thank you for this. I am a bit unclear as to how my UA-cam-rabbit-hole-plunge landed me here, but I am grateful it did. I am not a Christian - much more of a Neo-pagan, actually. But I encounter JWs soooo frequently in my neighborhood, and I most often feel sadness for them. And empathy. But mostly love. There seems to be a real panic in their pamphleteering, and I can relate because I grew up in Evangelical Christianity - with "witnessing" being a panicky duty for me more than it ever was a belief. I always felt like an insincere huckster when knocking on doors, and I similarly slogged and delayed in the way the JW's do. Not because of expected (and warranted) verbal abuse - but because I simply could not wrap my head around the idea that God, the all-powerful Creator of the universe, needed a salesman. And it was much more about logging time - punching a time card to fulfill my church duty. I get where you are coming from, and I am sure we will disagree on ideas of Biblical authority & literalism. But love is key. It always has been, and I appreciate your notion of approaching annoying proselytizers with simple compassion and love. Love of human souls - all of us confused, and all of us certain in our ways. But the message of Jesus of Nazareth was (mostly) one of pure love. If "Christianity" were called "Jesusinity" I would most likely be on board. I take Jesus' idea of ekklesia as expressed in communal living and spiritual practice powerfully seriously. When I was an evangelical teenager, duty-bound, ignorant of the true message of the Book of James - knocking on strangers' doors, I mostly encountered puzzled souls, interrupting their dinner or TV. Most politely told me they were not interested - to my relief. Because I simply did not buy what I was selling. I suspect many JWs are there too. LOVE, simple love. It is all we all seek. Belief is a contract with faith. It is not my business to de-convert. Just to show love. And hope that fellow souls find their way to meaning without a panicky fright of hell or other condemnation.
@lifobryan6798 Please don't feel sorry for the Jehovah's Witnesses, they are the most happiest people on this planet 😊
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+
I am so grateful that I decided to listen to this. I think it’s very important to know from the get-go that they do not trust you at all. Although I have had some very nice conversations with some JW‘s.
You'd do better listening to something a bit more high brow. Or better still try reading 👍
Because the BIBLE says that no man can be trusted lol
I'm no jw but they definitely got the "trust NO ONE" part right
James - You have read Acts 11:26, yes?
Also, if I may - What on earth does what you wrote have to do with the beliefs of the JWs???
James, I have tried to post, but Google doesn't seem to be allowing it. No one seems to know why this happens.
Latter Day Saint here: Glad you made this video for JWs. Please do one for us!
Are you serious? If so you honestly don't need a video on it, just having a conversation with you and a solid bible, I would love to talk to you about it so you can see the full truth of the word of God
Most of my family are JW and they all live good life’s with there families none of them are on drugs none of them are in prison because they follow the true god…
@@JesusChristSaves. I think you misunderstood the comment. Nevertheless, if all you have is the Bible, you do not have the full truth of the word of God.
@@Dan_Gleebalz brother the comment I responded to is not there anymore...
@@Dan_Gleebalz there was someone else that commented that was mocking it, not the main comment
As a former JW, I really appreciated this video. I got baptised as a Christian last weekend. I give God all the glory in showing me 'the truth' about what JW's call 'the truth' and for the justification and regeneration we receive through the intercession of christ and his shed blood. The one thing I want to point out in regards to this video is that the JW's no longer view Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures" as authoritative. They consider their old, out of print books and publications as "Old Light". THat said, they still subscribe to a works-based system of salvation clinging desperately to James 2 without understanding true grace. Thanks MIke for all that you've done to spread the Gospel and to shine a light on the darkness that enslaves so many who think they know Christ but in reality only know the doctrines of men. God Bless you and your family.
So how is James 2 to be understood?
@StretchMn He might now think it means we just need to believe and not think about or do good works.
Maybe he came to realize James was obviously mistaken when he said
(Verse 18)"and I will shew thee my faith BY my works."
He actually was ment to say, believing is enough..
like it say in verse 19
"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well....."
Oh wait, it carries on....." the devils also believe, and tremble."
Yip, believing is a good start but knowledge leads to faith which leads to actions... surely.
Why are so many Christians so put off by the idea of working for God?
Surely it's a privilege?
@@MrMore470 agreed! They are lazy and fear Man.
Also, remember last week’s study? It was clarified what “works of law” meant in relation to faith, vs “works of faith”. Such a great reminder!!
@benmmm7359 awesome study.
It really highlights the importance of reading the whole book, or at least chapter, to get an idea of context.
Often one verse can mean anything.
Paul explains categorically what "works" he is discussing..
King James Version
Galatians 2:16
"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."
James was talking about a different type of "works"..the things we do as Christians in imitation of Christ.
If we don't do these works, our faith is dead. (James2:17)
You know this but so should the guy who wrote the first comment...
But dead faith maybe? Maybe not proving anything for himself?
It amazes me why someone who was a servant of Jehovah would come here and agree with a guy they 100% know is not truthful in his description of "our beliefs"..
It's all a bit weird.
Maybe he never was a JW.
@@MrMore470 absolutely. It was one of the most meaningful study topics in a while. Really appreciated it being produced for us! Agape!
I searched for this video after getting a pamphlet from JW women, while leaving my kid to the school near London 😂
Thank you. It was really helpful 😀
Did you read the pamphlet?
@larysnw418 I've done that lary - I've researched what JWs believe. And what JWs believe _isn't_ biblical.
And any and every time you've been challenged to defend your JW beliefs, the ONLY thing that happens is you run away.
This was an awesome video. Thank you Mike W. And Allen P. for educating us.
@Rodney Parson
You were not educated, you were deceived.
@@watchman8644 you can't just make a statement and for anyone to believe you without any evidence to make your claim valid. Without it, it has no value.
You're quite wrong, dj, and here is why and how:
dj you are quite wrong
@@jamesritter5078 you can't just make a statement and for anyone to believe you without any evidence to make your claim valid. Without it, it has no value.
Thanks so much, Mike. I've been able to help a lot of JWs turn from this religion and believe in the one true Christ because of your teachings. I've seen a lot of JWs moving away from their old beliefs lately. It's a great sign!
Any suggestions on what to bring up?
@@michelleamaya6446 I took Mike's advice and use one thing that I mastered. That one thing that I use, using their website, is mishandling of the NWT, mainly the Greek. That cracks a hole in their beliefs and gets them questioning. Stay on them, but be loving. Just master one thing. I'd suggest checking out all his vids on the JWs. Remember, as Mike said, they are targets of the gospel, not opponents. Wishing you the best!
@@amado4249 My mistake while trying to wake up my dad was word vomit. I wish I would have approached it differently. You’re right about being patient and loving but I was newly awake and I wanted to share what I had learned with him. I remember mentioning that it was odd to see Jehovah’s Witnesses refer to the website also reading a biblical text out of a tablet! instead of holding a Bible it just does not look right that’s a good point you have there
@@michelleamaya6446 Yeah it's challenging. It's especially hard with family. Sometimes we are "Too close" to the person, and they do not listen to us as much as they would even a stranger. Still, don't let that statement discourage you. Pray, be loving, and stay faithful to your convictions and God's word. In time, I've found that at the very least, people will know where we stand. And best case scenario, The Holy Spirit will work in the person's life and change them. We can only carry the gospel and pray. But God can open the eyes of anyone and the gospel we carry holds power. Remember, believers also carry the spirit within. We carry with us the one who overcomes the world. :)
true Christians worship the one Jesus loves and worship, John 4:22 John 14:24,31
Nice video! I noticed how the JWs sent handwritten notes instead of door-to-door visits during COVID because they couldn't do the latter.
Which shows the importance they place on preaching and teaching.
Didn't Paul do the same thing?
An ex JW I always sensed something wasnt right on it as a kid i couldn't tell them that. Now i been learning through my wife who has a great relationship with GOD. I will never be a JW again it is just not the right one.
Hi, Jonathan. If I may ask - Would you be willing to share a little about how you came to leave the JWs? I'm interested in reading people's story of that.
(BTW - I'm not a JW.)
I got the same sense with the name that JWs like to with obsess about.
@@jamesritter5078why are you obsessed with such a thing just dive in and get a feel for yourself how it works and you will find out all the answers to your questions 😮I believe you scared to try it out based on people who left the truth to be worldly just be foreal and open your heart up and go in what's there to lose🤷♂️
Thank you so much for your work!
My best friend of 8 years is a JW. I love him and have been trying to witness to him.
My best friend/ my brother of 20 years is a JW. We get along great but we just never talk about his belief and I always hid when I celebrate a birthday or anything. I feel horrible because he is one of the most honest people I have ever met. But the theology I just doesn’t make sense
@@TroyUcf the pain is real. By worldly accounts, my friend is a total saint, and a good little JW. He’s a wonderful person.
Thankfully, he’s always enjoyed talking about the Bible with me. We’ve gotten to the point where he knows I consider him part of a heretical cult, and that I am trying to convert him, but he understands that I’m coming from a heart of love.
Additionally, he kind of figured out that I liked him last year. Now we’re very much in love, but we can’t marry because we’ll be unevenly yolked. So, I kind of have a double incentive for reaching him, but regardless, he is still my best friend and I’m worried about his eternal destination.
@@TroyUcf you have to look at it as a big picture. Also, he sounds like a nice guy. I try to be that way to. Honest and honorable. Just thinking about Jehovah witnesses is that they don’t hurt anyone. Just live your life the way you want to live it no one’s forcing you to be in the religion or what not.
@@Jestloo I mean most of us are in Cults by definition. The question should be what cult are you in? For example, if you follow a streamer or you’re in a group. Like the LTBTQ, those guys can be considered as a cult by definition. So yea. About everyone by definition is a cult nowadays.
@@rob_7775 JW's do hurt people when they shun their own family members or restrict their children from pursing their own career or passion. They also hurt people when they utilize internal beliefs that may restrict medical care.
They also have a US vs THEM mentality focusing their ideas that anyone not in the organization will be destroyed by God. That doesn't seem very "good Samaritan".
I was a JW for 24 years of my 29 year life. You destroyed my entire (previous) belief so strongly I feel rough even though I don't believe it anymore. A knife through butter comes to mind. Out of the many, many good points you made, the one that sticks to me is when you mentioned how so much of their belief actually is based in devotion to the leadership and the '8 men' essentially. If you can break that, you have half a chance actually having an open conversation with a JW.
Very true. Consider the following statement that was written by the Watchtower:
*”From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..."* The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981.
So - according to this statement, if you only read the Bible, you will believe in things such as the Deity of Christ because that is exactly what the Watchtower is referring to here when it says "apostate doctrines." In other words, *if you read the Bible by itself you will not arrive at Watchtower doctrines.* This is an amazing admission by the JW masters. They are doing nothing less than flat out admitting that Jehovah's Witnesses do not get their teachings from the Bible, but from the JW masters in the Watchtower literature.
@@jamesritter5078 True JW do not only read the Bible, THEY ALSO STUDY IT!!! I don't know were you ripped this out of context, but there is no page or title. No one reads the Bible and doesn't need help understanding it Read:Acts8:30,31"Do you actually know what you are reading?"He said: "Really, how could I ever do so unless someone guided me?"
@@jerrychacon8814 LOL! Your posts have proven REPEATEDLY that you don't study the Bible - You only have eyes and ears for the dictations of your JW masters. As for Acts 8, it's easy to understand that: The man didn't know about Christ and so Philip told him. And the Christ that Philip told him about was the BIBLICAL Christ Philip personally knew and not the false, unbiblical Christ of the JWs. The quote says what it says, and you can't do anything about it: The JW masters have _admitted in writing_ that *a person will not arrive at JW beliefs by reading the Scriptures - They will arrive at Christian beliefs.*
Regarding Philip and Christ - Here is John 14:8-9: 8 Philip said to him: “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him: “Even after I have been with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Question: Who is "the Father"? What/Who is being referred to by that phrase?
Obvious Answer: God Himself. Considering the context of who and what Philip is - a Jew - There is no other honest way to understand the phrase in Philip's request. This is not refutable.
Jesus, knowing full well who and what Philip is and the only possible meaning to his request, straightforwardly tells Philip, "If you've seen Me, you've seen Him. If you've seen me, you've seen God Himself." There is no other honest way to take that answer.
Jesus Christ openly declares that seeing Him = Seeing God Himself.
He made the same open declaration in John 12:45.
JWs say that Jesus is Michael the archangel. No, that doesn't work, and it doesn't work BIG TIME. Here's why that's true:
Michael's name means "Who Is Like God?"
Obvious answer: NO ONE.
There is NO way that Michael would have made the claim for himself that Jesus makes in verse 9. He would have been...
a) going directly against the meaning of his own name, and
b) committing blasphemy.
Add to this the fact that there is no verse in the Bible that states that Jesus is really Michael.
Add to this the fact that Michael would NEVER receive for himself the declaration of Thomas in John 20:28.
And there are _plenty_ of other Scriptures that show and prove the Deity of Christ.
Thanks for bringing up Philip, Jerry. You yourself have helped prove that JWs don't really study the Bible. If they _did_ they would very, very easily see what it says.
@@jamesritter5078Jesus is not Jehovah. Jesus always, always taught by illustration Matthew 13:34 Mark 4:34'with out an illustration he would not speak to them' an illustration is a symbolic, metaphorical use of teaching were you have to find the meaning, dig for it search. You read but you will not know the true meaning or the sacred secrets. You don't understand.
@@jerrychacon8814 LOL! There is NOTHING AT ALL that's "illustration" or "symbolic" or "metaphysical" in the open, clear declarations of Christ in John 14:8-9 and 12:24 or _numerous_ other Scriptures. In order for you to say that's what's happening, you have to first have that idea as an already preconceived conclusion that you intentionally read into the text in order to dishonestly force/pervert the text to your already preconceived conclusion. That is simply honest. But is DOES show very well just how JWs "study" the Bible. Thanks for showing that so openly. Oh, and nice TOTAL AVOIDANCE of the Scriptures in my previous post. It was NOT unexpected.
Mike, I spent 35 years of my life trapped inside the WL group. Have you ever done any videos on the WL group? Now the WL operation does have a track record of suing their critics, some of them even into bankruptcy so I totally get it if you would rather not talk about them openly. BTW: It was a Calvary Chapel pastor who helped me & my family to escape the WL group. Maybe you could interview Pastor Daryl? Thanks Mike!
Super helpful and interesting! Have you done one of these on Scientology?
Those Scientologists are crazy! Did you know that their holy book tells them to murder children and infants of their opponents, just because some member of their cult claimed that god said so? "This is what the Lord Almighty says...put to death men and women, children and infants." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). WHOOPS! Sorry, that was the bible.
A number of years ago I was living in Leeds and I knocked on a door to share the gospel. The man who opened the door was a JW elder. And I would go and talk to him each week. He would try to take me off the subject, but I would do my best to share Jesus with him. I wasn't very good at doing it. Then after a few visits I was moving to London. So I lost contact with him. Thank you to both of you for sharing how you would do it, I wish I had had that training those years ago.
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
@@markuse3472
The people who call themselves “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are well known for their efforts to spread their doctrines. In 2001, they claimed they conducted five million studies with people in their homes. It is sad that those who work so hard are teaching false doctrines instead of the truth.
The sect known as “Jehovah’s Witnesses” had its beginning in the late 1800’s with a man named Charles Taze Russell. Russell taught Christ would return to the earth in 1914. The fact that He did not return proved Russell was a false prophet (Deuteronomy 18:21,22); (Matthew 24:36-51).
Charles T. Russell began an organization to spread his ideas. It is called The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Since this organization began, they have distributed more than one billion tracts and books, promoting the doctrines of Russell and those who followed him.
When Russell died, J. F. “Judge” Rutherford became the new leader of the Watchtower Society. Russell’s followers began calling themselves “Jehovah’s Witnesses” under Rutherford’s leadership. In 1920, he wrote a book called Millions Now Living Will Never Die. In this book he taught those who were faithful to God would be resurrected in 1925. It never happened! Rutherford, like Russell, was proved to be a false prophet (Deuteronomy 18:21,22)! Rutherford died of cancer in 1942. Since that time, this organization has grown greatly. According to their own claims, there were more than six million “Jehovah’s Witnesses” in the worl
@@markuse3472 if anyone truly knew the right path, then they would've needed Jesus to have come, to die for our sins.
Just look at most Christians? They never truly put their faith in the creator through his son Jesus who said no one is good but the father in heaven.
Yet people disagree on how to be a Christian, they see faults in other people's belief's but not their own.
Why would any Christian accept a vaccine? Yet they accept all sorts of vaccines, then they don't understand they can't serve two God's, but most do.
They accept the mark by being numbered, you look at any form of registration, they accept a number, whether it's on a driving licence, birth certificate, death certificate, inland revenue, national insurance number, medical card, passport, etc.
They are all Man-made, even using their coinage, who did Jesus say when holding a coin and say whose face is on this? He knew, but wanted that man to answer him, and what was his reply?.
We are not perfect, that is why the father in heaven, the creator, knew we were all sinners, and we get to be easily fooled.
Just look at language, people accept their surname, look up in any etymology dictionary the meaning of that word along with many more that are rooted in Latin.
People don't even know capitalise lettering whether it's uppercase, lowercase or a mixture of both, doesn't conform to any known language that can be read, why?
The Chicago manual style of English will inform you, it's written for the illiterate, it's called sign language
Signs are symbols, which are pictures, which are marks, are all Man-made, yet most people even Christians don't see them for what they're, the Chicago manual style of English will tell you they are ASL American sign language, mostly used by the deaf or mute.
Yet we see them everywhere, they're the language of corporations, there's one above every business, and most churches are registered businesses, even if they are not for profit.
Those first Christians understood, and never accepted the mark, even if it meant being thrown to the lions, they wouldn't accept being registered.
They had their faith in the Lord God, through the Messiah, and understood that you can't serve to masters.
I don't fully understand the Amish belief, but they live simply, that they believe that God has a personal and abiding interest in their lives.
They live in private and not public, they plant their crops and have faith in the good Lord to give them what they need when they need it, it's called faith.
They probably still record birth, death, etc in their family Bible, and not with the authorities.
What did the first Christians do? Them apostles, when becoming disciples? Going from students to becoming teachers, they either sold or gave away their possessions, and gave them to the poor.
If we all took a leaf out of that book, no one would be wanting for anything, if only the Christians did that, that is what Jesus taught us to do.
We are all being deceived in one way or another, through wickedness and we know who is behind that, none of us is perfect, if only we were?
A lot of it is done with the trickery of language, people should arm themselves with fully understanding whatever Bible they believe in, understanding what correct grammar of the language they are using, so as not to be sweetened with honeyed words, that mislead you by not knowing what is grammatically correct by not answering for the legal fiction (man-made) name called a person.
As written in Act 10:34 (King James Version of the Bible)
34: Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, of a truth, I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.
Peter gain the knowledge that the word person was an assumed character, man-made, artificial entity.
Person (n.) Directly from Latin persona "human being, person, personage; a part in a drama, assumed character," originally " a mask, a false face," such as those of wood or clay wore by actors in later Roman theatre (etymology dictionary).
Just in case you're wondering, I do not conform to any know organised church other than what Jesus preached, yet one of my brother's, my two sisters, five nephews and three nieces are Jehovah's witnesses, and so was my mother before she died.
I know I have my faults, and see many in most other people, do you? Or any other Christian reading this?
As in life, it's there to be lived, the creator gave us life to be free, the freedom of free will, and in the end, we all have to account for ourselves on the day of judgement.
We will be speaking for ourselves, no one else can speak for us, we all walk the path, but is it the right path?
Never allow yourself to be deceived by anyone, think for yourself and come to your understanding of what is truth.
I question myself all the time, yet I know my flaws, most Christians don't, they lack all-around knowledge of the real world, it's not just what is written.
The fallen one knows the father plan, he's far more intelligent with the knowledge and knows how to use our weaknesses against us, we all need to be on our guard, forever watchful.
@@peterthompson6651 On your first paragraph. Read Daniel 12:7-12, Isaiah 2:2-4; Acts 15:14-18 and Acts 6-7, Stephens account. These Scriptures were written for a reason. ALL The Bible was written so "the men of God may be FULLY equipped for every good work" --(read) 2 Timothy 3:16, 17. Jesus said "give to Caesar the things belonging to Caesar, but Gods things to God." The entire Christian Scriptures tells us to obey the laws of the land because is God who has placed them in their places. Gods word says his people will be "of the same mind, same heart, same spirit." God has always had a unified people under his name because he is a God of order. Read The Christian Scriptures. In the first century AD there already some who were believing in The Messiah but were doing things their way and both Jesus and the apostles afterwards, warned true Christians to kick them out and remove them, to stay away from them. There were Jews, Greeks, Romans, and others from other nations, who were trying to mix in their former ideas and practices along with what Jesus taught and that was not at all acceptable to them: they wrote to be rid of such people if they didn't want to change.
Second paragraph. I'll get back to you soon and finish my response, it's late and I have to go to sleep.
@@markuse3472 Jesus said, in Matthew 22:20-22,
20 And saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him Caesar's Then saith he unto them, Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar; and unto God the things that are God's.
22 when they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.
You misunderstand what those scriptures are telling you, if you were to take a look at an etymology dictionary, you would have a greater understanding of those words, like "image and superscription".
Image (n.) C. 1200, "piece of statuary, an artificial representation that looks like a person or thing," from Old French image "image, likeness; figure, drawing, portrait, reflection; statue," earlier imagine (11c.), From Latin imagine (nominative imago) " copy, imitation, likeness, statue, picture,"
Person (n.) Directly from Latin persona "human being, person, personage; a part in a drama assumed character," originally "a mask, a false face," such as those of wood or clay wore by actors in later Roman theatre.
Then you go on to say obey the "law of the land," in the book of Genesis 1:9, it tells us who created that land, and in Exodus 20 it tells us who's laws to follow, and in Acts 10:34 it tells us God as no respect for people who take from Caesar, and play both sides, and in Matthew 22:20-22, it tells us to Render to Caesar what is Caesar.
Superscription (n.) Late 14c., From Latin superscription (nominative superscription) "a writing above,"
You have to understand what the words you're reading mean by their definitions, you have to all-round knowledge of the language, scriptures, law your using, most people don't realise they can be misinterpreted.
Do you know no language is written in capitalise lettering, whether it's uppercase or lowercase or a mixture of both, no language?
What manual style of English are you using for your grammar?
For instance, it tells those who take a look at the Chicago manual style of English, it's the language of the illiterate because the only other people who use it are either mute or deaf, it's called ASL (American sign language) That is how they communicate with each other.
If you gave someone illiterate a written message, to the direction to go somewhere, they wouldn't understand, now if you used "sign," using arrows, picture, they are more likely to get to that destination.
If you want to be in the book of life, stop serving Caesar, and give yourself to the Lord God the creator, and stop being numbered by Caesar, eventually, this knowledge will be lost as written in Amos 8:11-13
11 behold the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord.
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.
Faded JWs here.
Their focus is Governing Body which is no Biblical and Jesus is pushed out.
They mention Jesus but almost with whisper rather than using Jesus' name aloud.
Interesting...
@@khill4053
Governing Body got this idea that they are the ones God chose to communicate with people not Jesus as Bible clearly states in 1.Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.
@@bacomiric and they teach Jesus is mediator only for 144,000 (Security under Prince of Peace Chapter 1 paragraph 16) not for other sheep!
@@jimmmmy55
I am aware of that.
Think how every cult or sect print their own Bibles for the purpose of changing things in the Bible to fit their teachings.
Jesus came to Earth to teach us about God, and what he said was documented in the Bible, and the Governing Body reads the Bible, which is what Jesus said, so that way, they *are* listening to Jesus.
God didn't give us religion he gave us a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I believe Babylon the great is all about false religion. Amen always in Jesus❤❤
Thank you 👍❤️
I pray that jehovahs witnesses find the truth in the real bible and not their false bible. I feel so bad for them to be deceived.
@David19746 You're wrong, as usual, David. The NWT is not regarded as being a legitimate translation by the great preponderance of accredited Bible translation scholars. It is rightly regarded as a perversion; created by the JWs to support their false beliefs.
What if they have the more accurate version, and you have been deceived?
Like90 - Both David and Tralfaz are JWs, and that is the reason for their posts.
You are correct in what you posted about the NWT being a false "bible" and that JWs are deceived.
I feel the same way about everyone who believes in religion 😂
@David19746"Btw...available."
No, it hasn't.
JWs don't have the truth.
Jehovah witness are probably some of the nicest people you could ever meet.
Right up until you disagree with them and can show them where and why they're wrong. JWs have a false, unbiblical Christ and a false, unbiblical way of salvation and multiple other falsehoods. These things can be shown, and it is not difficult to do so.
JWs are the among the nicest people you will ever meet leekoac. It's because they are followers of Jesus and the scriptures.
Jesus said we would know his disciples if they have love.
So JWs do not kill each other in man's greedy wars.
They do not get involved in divisive politics or violent protests, nor condone or allow immorality and homosexuality, thus following Jesus' command to not be part of the world.
JWs go preaching as Jesus commanded. And when they go to a person's door and they are not interested, JWs are polite.
This is why Jesus said we would know the true religion based on their fruits or actions in Mt. 7:13-23.
You will see Mike making many accusations, some are true, and many are wrong. He lies and misrepresents.
Others will demand you "stay on topic" of the video and chastise you for saying anything else. So these posts can get contentious.
Yes, many are, until someone is disfellowshipped. The way they treat those people is not very loving.
The devil can also masquerade as an angel of light, what does nice even mean?
There are nice atheists too.
Nice doesn't mean your beliefs are on a solid foundation that will assure you of true eternal salvation.
The eternal destination of people's souls are at risk, these nice people included.
To be saved, Jesus cannot be a created being, a prophet, an angel, a human and so on.
In the first convenant, the life of an animal was accepted to pay for the life of a human to cover sins because the "wages (sentence) of sin is death", but they had to keep killing animals again and again because animals are finite created beings that also belong to this fallen world. Fallen blood to cover the sins of fallen people in front of a holy and perfect and infinite God. It was a temporary convenant.
In Leviticus, God States that the life of an animal is in its blood.
Jesus' blood being of divine origin, God himself, is why it can be used in the second convenant, one death to cover sins from then on to all of eternity, for billions of people, and uncountable sins... Just one death, one instance of that death justifies the world's sins if the world chooses Jesus. 📖Romans 6:23, Leviticus 17:11, 17:14, Hebrews 9:22,
If you deny that Jesus is who he says he is, you deny the very nature that makes this blood able to cover your sin. If you deny the way is the way, you're not on your way. 1 📖John 2:18-27
It's very dangerous from an eternal perspective. Souls are at risk.
An old preacher I knew was prepared for the JW's. When they came to the door he would get out a document, read it to them, and ask if they believed what it said. They always said "absolutely not." Then he would tell them it was their older material. I never got a copy of it but it may have had something about the deity of Christ. Apparently, their false doctrine has changed over the years and they worked the inconsistencies out of it.
Not all of them.
@lary Snw - LOL! lary, your post above - like all the rest of them - is pure and simple falsehood. The JWs have a false, unbiblical Christ and a false unbiblical way of salvation and multiple other falsehoods. You've been openly challenged on this board to defend your statements and beliefs, and the ONLY response is that you run away EVERY SINGLE TIME.
@lary Snw JWs believe in "new light" to smooth over old inconsistencies. The much older publications are hilarious and products of the time
The path of the righteous is getting brighter and brighter Proverbs 4:18. Even the 12 disciples had wrong expectation of what was going to happen,at first, LUKE 19:11; 24:21
@Phil Blohm Sr.
What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
The “church” adopted pagan beliefs, started celebrating pagan holidays, created an hierarchy in the “church”, got involved in politics, and sought power to control people for centuries. All of that is contrary to what Jesus taught would identify his people.
Even “Christians” who are not Catholic still mostly follow the pagan doctrines adopted by the “church” like the trinity. Most of them still celebrate pagan holidays and try to claim they’re Christian holidays. They’ll have Easter Sunday but what is the origin of Easter? They celebrate Christmas, but what is the origin of Christmas? They get involved in politics and go to war, even with countries that have people of the same religion.
Ask yourself honestly if any of that behavior reflects the “fine fruit” that Jesus said would identify his people.
John 13:35 says Jesus disciples would be known by the love they have for one another.
Matthew 7:15-20 shows you will recognize people by the fruits they produce. Were the crusades “fine fruits”, or a quest for power? Is supporting worldly governments and sending your parishioners to the military “fine fruits”? Is accepting unmarried fornicators into your church so you can get the membership fees “fine fruits”.
John 17:14-16; John 15:19; and John 18:36 shows Jesus Kingdom and his people are “no part of this world”. What Christian religion today does not get involved in politics or support their people joining the military? What group of Christians today does not celebrate holidays that are widely accepted by the rest of the “world” but have known pagan or political origins? What group of people today produce “fine fruits” with a worldwide brotherhood that demonstrates genuine love? There is only one, Jehovah’s Witnesses.
What religion today continues to examine the Bible and adjust to what is learned instead of sticking to false teachings which were developed by the Catholic Church, influenced by Greek philosophies and pagan beliefs and forced on people through much controversy by political decree? Only Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Examine the Bible for yourself. Do the research in legitimate sources like encyclopedias, not blogs or the internet, and think for yourself instead of joining the masses, adopting what is popular or widely accepted.
I work with a witness, nice enough guy, I'm an atheist and we often debate about religion. He tries to tell me how all the other religions have gotten it wrong and I try to tell him that no one has gotten it. Great video, now I've got some good facts and even verses to back it up now.
Please explain your method here. You do not believe God exists, yet you came to a religious person to learn things so you can debate with another religious person? While both religious POVs you deny. Are you interested in finding God, or in winning a debate?
@@777Tralfaz777 winning a debate. I have no interest in "finding" god. But thanks for the reply!
Im here for the same reason, as an Athiest i like to debate on my doorstep with JVs politely and wanted to understand more about what they believe, had a 30 min chat with them just yesterday,hence being on here now 👌
@@coom0004 Sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You come to one religious person you do not believe to refute another religious person you do not believe?
@@777Tralfaz777 think about it,how can I deny the existence of any religions without knowing the basis of what they believe,like giving a review of a car I've never driven...
Im wondering why your guest was.....a guest? He said 3 or 4 words, lol. Great info, either way. Thank you
Mike was actually the guest of Allan and it was a 1H+ episode on many heretic denominations. The whole thing is on his channel it was really good!
I love the terminology you use; insulated social community. Sound better than cult and using this will break down barriers.
I think outsiders underestimate the level of fear within the community. Fair of not doing enough, fear of each other because people are encouraged to tell on each other and even themselves. The fear of natural human desires, the fear of not saving enough people and therefore being destroyed.
Even after I had left I thought I was still going to die, but I was so exhausted of not doing and being enough I didn't care. When I read the gospel and saw the love of Christ, I was so angry for what I was born into. But now through Christ I am finally free.
Thank you, I hope you save many JW souls.
So, first of all, are you disfellowshipped? Or just leave?
Second, let's break down each of your "accusations" and look to the Bible to see if it right.
1. Fear of not doing enough.
That's false. JWs do everything out of love - love for Jehovah. Love for their brothers and sisters. Love of fellow man.
Lu. 21:1-4 is the example of a poor widow who put in everything she had. And Jesus praised her for it. Everyone has different circumstances. So we all do what we can with what we have.
But, we also do try our best to be obedient and follow all that the Bible says to do. Like preaching, which Jesus commanded we do.
Col. 1:10,11 - so as to walk worthily of Jehovah in order to please him fully as you go on bearing fruit in EVERY good WORK...
Col. 3:23 - Whatever you are doing, WORK at it whole-souled as for Jehovah
2. Fear of each other. (Telling on each other)
Only the wicked worry about being found out. (Was that you?)
Paul said at Ro. 16:17: "keep your eye on, or mark (or identify) those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned (or apostates!) AND AVOID THEM!!!"
Which means to NOT associate with.
Paul said at 1 Co. 5:11: "...quit mixing in company (not fellowship) with anyone called a brother that is... not even eating with such a man (not fellowship)... Remove the wicked man from among yourselves. (not fellowship)
Mt. 18:15-17 - Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.
(Tax collectors were avoided)
3. Fear of natural desires.
There is nothing wrong with natural desires. As long as they are in harmony with the bible.
1 Cor. 6:9,10 is a list of "desires" that are wrong, and if we practice them, we will not be in God's kingdom - Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
So yes, there is a fear of and fight against committing those wrong desires.
4. Fear of not saving enough people.
That's also false.
But, we love all and hope that as many as can will learn the truth and make it into God's kingdom. So we preach.
We can only spread the message to everyone. But we know not everyone will accept it. Only those that Jehovah draws. Because he knows their heart.
That includes those who are JWs.
So true worshippers, who love Jehovah and his son Jesus, will follow the bible and be obedient. Those who don't, do not and will not.
Remember Noah's day? Only a few survived, but many perished.
Mt. 24:37-39 - For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
Oh, and one more thing. Fear. That too is a requirement.
Pr. 8:13 - The fear of Jehovah means the hating of bad
Pr. 16:6 - And by fearing Jehovah one turns away from bad.
Ecc. 12:13 - The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the true God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man.
Ac. 10:35 - ...but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
@Woman of Character
I agree with Mark K. My parents and grandparents were/are Jehovah’s Witnesses and I grew up knowing the truth. The only time I had fear is if I was doing something wrong, and it wasn’t fear of the Congo, it was fear of disappointing my parents.
Everything else that Mark shared is exactly correct. We do things out of love for our fellow man and love fore Jehovah.
I'm a ex jw thank you for bringing up this topic. I have gone through so much being a jw. I'm always open to talk more about my experience. It does cause you to have PTSD and anxiety. I have left 7 years ago and I still deal with the issues from being born into that religion.
God bless and keep you Eloise....keep looking up....the King is coming !!!
Grace and peace.
Gilly wife of Mark
I have a JW friend who emigrated to the UK (I live in Belgium) and is now surrounded by only JWs, so I really want her eyes to be opened and I want to share the true Gospel with her but she has no one there to fall back on. her whole family that side and all the friends she's made all belong to the org and she's getting baptised soon and I feel this sense of urgency but my heart breaks for her either way... I also have no idea where to start. We've been friends for almost 9 years now so its not like just starting a conversation with a stranger. we have both tried sharing little pieces of our faith with one another over the years but as I said, where she is now she is only around JWs and if her eyes are opened (God willing), I have no idea where she would go, live or who she would have around her ... i know in the greater picture her salvation is the most important thing, but I cant just deny the things she will have to experience here on earth if she leaves the org
Give Jesus your anxiety and fear because He cares for you. Give him authority over every part of you and you will experience His peace. He loves you and wants to help you. God bless you always!
- THE TRUTH - LUKE 2: 21 After eight days, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived. 22 Also, when the time came for purifying them according to the Law of Moses, they brought him up to Jerusalem TO PRESENT HIM TO JEHOVAH, 23 just as it is written in Jehovah’s Law: “Every firstborn male must be called holy to Jehovah.” :D - THE TRUTH -
Being there was a nightmare that only exjw understand. Thank god we are out ❤️
My half sister is a Jehovah's Witness. She grew up Pentecostal. But she has left many times and has been harassed by members of her Kingdom Hall when she would leave.
This comment below is in reference to your video entitled - "Jehovah's Witnesses: beliefs practices and ERRORS" from a few more years back. Hoping to get a hold of you Mike.
Hello Mike, I only remember commenting to one other video on UA-cam. I think it was to compliment an amateur musician starting out. You've compelled me, by your loving approach and caring tone, to reach out regarding JW criticisms, (and yes, I did watch the entire vid... without melting). Already looking forward to calling you my Brother someday. In the spirit of [Acts 18:24-26] I'm hoping you will continue in your genuine search for truth. I'll assume we both would agree that humility is necessary to understand God's wisdom... which, of course, is most important. [Proverbs 4:7 & 1 Corinthians 1:19-24].
I trust that you are a man of your word, and I accept your challenge... Brother. Time stamp (41:14 --> 41:23) See you in Paradise! [Psalm 37:11&29, Matthew 5:5, Revelation21:1, Isaiah 35:5&6, Isaiah 45:18, Isaiah 25:8, Revelation 21:4]
Psalm 37 is out of context.
@@misterauctor7353 In what way?
@@misterauctor7353 I've asked so many people what LGBTQ stands for. So far no one has given me a straight answer.
This comment is either out of context or I'm on the wrong You Tube Channel
@@777Tralfaz777Just read it.
@@desmcauley1967 Are you gay?
My best friend is a new baby christian and she started leaning towards Mormonism... unfortunately. Me I don't know anything about it so I'm studying up on it so I could talk to her with the right study. I'm getting ready to listen to your 2 hour video about it next. Thanks and God bless 💜
I've heard the term "Baby Christians and my church teaches us in a manner where they eat steak and not milk, making the comparison identical. Once you accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, baby and steak teachings don't apply. We are made clean and a new creation, I get the metaphor, but we all learn or interpret something different every time we read the word of God! So baby as opposed to Grandpa makes us all that different? Remain blessed, I just don't care for the term!
@@javiergalvan242 The fact that we have to face is that there is a reality called 'Baby Christians'. There is such a thing as an underdeveloped, immature Christian. 1st Corinthians 3: 1-9, Paul speaks to these people in verse 1 and he says: 'Brethren', he looks upon them as believers, brothers. This is the staggering thing about it, that he's not saying, as he said at the end of chapter 2, that these people are natural, they're not even saved, they're not living like Christians so they're not saved, that's not what he's saying! He says that they are babes in Christ, positionally they are in Christ, and he calls them brothers - they are real Christians yet they have never developed. I could go on and on... remember the Bible doesn't tell want us to understand in our own understanding but that of God only. When we start our own assumption meaning, we start steering it to make excuses for ourselves. May God bless you brother in Christ. Stay strong and blessed 💜
Hello Victoria, how are you doing?
@@ToriLynn928 That's absolutely right, and why we're not supposed to depend on any particular pastor or preacher or even teacher. The Bible says the Holy spirit will teach us, but most Christians don't realize that. The Lord knew there'd be many false teachers, even as there was back then, so we are to ask the Father to let His Spirit teach us according to the Father's will only! Yes, we can and should learn with others and seek teachers, but we should also learn through diligent study with the help of the Spirit to discern what is Biblical and what is man's erroneous interpretation. Just because someone has a degree or went to seminary does not automatically mean they know the truth or have right intentions.
Look up Walter Martin on UA-cam. He was very knowledgeable about all religions.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are in a blasphemous cult. I pray for their true salvation by grace alone, through faith alone.
“Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” James 2:17
I left JW, but wasn't born in. Now Atheist 100%. Religion and the bible have stolen the first 38 years of my life. Wish I had woken up earlier.
@@brianp6859 Are you suggesting that salvation comes from works?
@@nathandelong7069 salvation comes from Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. However we must earn the honour to have those merits applied to us. This is done by following God’s law which Christ summarized: Love the Lord thy God with thy whole mind, body and soul and love they neighbour as thy self. We can believe in Christ all we want but unless we do God’s will as well in our day to day we will not merit heaven. If you believe and love Christ truly though the actions will follow almost on their own but you must still live a Christian life and we should always seek to me more Christ-like in our thoughts, words and actions.
@@brianp6859 Thanks for clarifying! I share the belief that good works should follow and be a sign of salvation, but good works alone won’t get you to heaven.
Thank you deeply for this truth I pray with all my heart people are stuck in get the truth.
I work at a tool distribution company and one of our salesmen was a Jehovah's Witness. We would get regular orders from the Watchtower and a local Jehovah's Witness congregation, accounts that he managed. He retired a few years back and we haven't had an order from either of them since. I just found that interesting.
David is Ripcord (A JW troll).
I'm genuinely trying to learn about the difference between Christianity and JW. You were awesome in teaching me and were so respectful to JW at the same time! Thank you so much❤️
Then you'd be better off asking a JW. Mike misrepresents and misquotes through his videos.
@@StretchMn I've been talking to one, I work in insurance and she was just a lead but I wished her a happy early birthday in which lead to JW talk. I think it's great to hear both sides from many people so I'm still researching!
@Payton Jones That's good to hear. Research and searching are awesome. Just make sure to get the facts.
Mike misleads and doesn't speak complete truth.
BTW a Christian is anyone who believes in Jesus. So there are true and false Christians.
Jesus said at Mt. 7:13-23 that there are only two roads. One leads to destruction and the majority are on it and the other leads to everlasting life and few are on it.
We would know that true Christian faith by their fruits, or actions. A good tree produces fine fruit and a rotten tree produces worthless fruit.
So look at each churches actions. For instance, do they condone and join in the killing of their own brothers in man's greedy wars?
Do they and allow and participate in politics and violent protests?
Do they condone and allow and participate in immorality and homosexuality?
Do they infuse paganism into their worship and celebrations?
Then they are not true Christians and Jesus will tell them he does not know them.
Hi, paytonjones. Just so you're aware: Mark/StretchMn is a JW, and that's the reason for his negative accusations.
If you ask people who oppose Jehovah's Witnesses, you will not be told truthfully about us. If you want to know, go to the source.
Kinda weird how JW's and LDS's were founded around the same time and place
Well, that period in history is known as the 2nd great religious awakening. There’s been at least 4 of them in the last 300 years. It’s also the same time that Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians started showing up. Just because two groups popped up around the same time doesn’t mean they have anything in common.
@@KnuttyEntertainment Actually, that's incorrect about the Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians. For instance, the Methodists were founded by John Wesley during the early 1700s, far more than a century before JWs or LDS. And Baptists were originated from the Anabaptists who existed as early as the 1500s. Same for Presbyterianism, based on John Calvin, of the Lutherans, by John Knox of the early 1500s, about 1514, as well. So they are absolutely not associated with the JWs or LDS at all.
@Sam Collinson _The thing they have in common is that they were founded by Freemasons -_
I suppose you mean JW and LDS, right? Not Baptists, Methodists or Presbytarians, right?
It's true
I didn’t say they were founded during that time period, it’s just when they rose to prominence. And I agree that they’re not associated with Latter-Day Saints. My whole point was just because two groups (JW and LDS) rose to prominence around the same time or place doesn’t mean they’re related. And it wasn’t even that close anyway. There’s a 50 year time gap between the origins of the two groups.
My two fav UA-camrs!
For me, a simple comparison with what the Bible teaches to people's actions tells whether or not they are truly 'Christian'.
Except that the bible contains loads of contradictions, so you have to pick and choose what to follow anyway. For instance, is it morally wrong to kill children for the crimes of parents, or not? "Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin" (Deut. 24:16). "The person who sins is the one who will die. The child will not be punished for the parent's sins, and the parent will not be punished for the child's sins" (Eze.18:20). So why then does it claim that God told people to murder children and infants for the sins of their parents? "This is what the Lord Almighty says...Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:2-3). Did a man lie about what he claims God told him, or is your God schizophrenic? Or is the bible filled with contradictions because it was written by a bunch of ancient religious fanatics who couldn't get their story straight?
As always thorough and concise!! Thank you so much!!!!
I am afraid this just isn’t accurate
Two of my favorite pastors teaching truth keep it coming thank you both so much for all you do
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
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This is what Jehovah's witnesses did Paul said believe not ANY OTHER GOSPEL
Galatians 1:8-9
King James Version
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
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Isaiah 9:6
King James Version
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Jesus was and is God in the flesh it's obvious if you don't go to the corrupted watchtower organization
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Matthew 24:26
King James Version
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
@@jamiebatchelor2857 Jesus is not God in the flesh, that is a lie. Your KJV has many wrong renderings and this is one.
Isaiah 9:6
The Bible also refers to the Son of God by the title “God.” At Isaiah 9:6 he is called “Mighty God.” But in the Bible, angels, humans, false gods, and Satan are also called “gods.” (Angels: Psalm 8:5) (Humans: Psalm 82:6) (Satan: 2 Corinthians 4:4.) In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word for “God,” ʼEl, simply means “Mighty One” or “Strong One.” The equivalent in the Greek Scriptures is the·osʹ.
Moreover, the Hebrew term used at Isaiah 9:6 shows a DEFINITE DISTINCTION between the Son and God. There the SON IS CALLED "MIGHTY GOD” ʼEl Gib·bohrʹ, not “Almighty God.” That term in Hebrew is ʼEl Shad·daiʹ and APPLIES UNIQUELY TO JEHOVAH GOD.
You can admit the JW's are right and you and your KJV are wrong anytime, but I doubt it.
I was born a JW my whole life till middle school or early hs i stopped going to their congregations because I hated it. Then sometime i considered myself a actual Christian but non practicing. Just past this Friday I officially converted into a Muslim. Havent felt this typa happiness in a long time or ever. Thank God I’m finding him more each day.
Why did you convert to Islam? It’s a honest question. Have you read that if a Muslim Converts to Christianity they kill the person? And guys can have multiple women and marry any women from any religion but the women can’t marry another guy from another religion and has to have their body covered. Jesus said be careful with fake prophets.
Islam is not the way. Jesus is
It is amazing how similar the JWs and the LDS are. Works- based, obedience to their leaders, not understanding the scriptures they have, insulated social community, etc... the lds isn't quite so conspiratorial, sounds like. It's amazing how many cults are on the earth, and how easy it is to get sucked into one
(Romans 2:6-8) And he will pay back to each one according to his works: 7 everlasting life to those who are seeking glory and honor and incorruptibleness by endurance in work that is good; 8 however, for those who are contentious and who disobey the truth but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and anger.
Thank you so much for this!!!!
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For what? There’s a lot of unscriptural bias in this video as well as errors and lies. Ironically people are so blind they completely miss how Mike is supposedly refuting that Jesus is a created being but quotes scriptures that say Jesus is the firstborn of all creation and that all (other) things were created through Jesus. (Colossians 1:15-16) Notice through, not by?
1 Corinthians 8:6 tells us there is one God, the Father, from whom all things are. Notice that it says the Father is the one God? Notice that it says all things are from the Father. The Father is the source of life.
The verse continues and tells us there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are. Yes, the Father is the source of life and he used Jesus to help create everything else.
Jesus is called God’s only-begotten son (John 3:16) as well as “the firstborn of all creation” (Colossians 1:15). These words are translated literally. There is no hidden meaning. Jesus was the first being ever created. Proverbs 8:22-30 shows God created Jesus as the beginning of Hos way. Verse 30 says Jesus then worked alongside God as a master worker. Doing what? Helping create everything else.
That is why he is called the only- begotten son of God, because Jesus was the only being directly created by God. All others were created through Jesus.
Also, Mike mocks that Jehovah’s Witnesses say Jesus was resurrected as a spirit being, not in bodily form again.
1 Peter 3:18 says, “For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;” (NASB)
According to this verse, Jesus was resurrected as a spirit being. He took on physical bodies when appearing to his disciples, but they also didn’t recognize him, so his appearance was probably a little different. Also, he appeared out of nowhere to show people he’d been resurrected and give them hope. (1 Corinthians 15:3-8)
Luke chapter 4 gives the accounts of Jesus appearing to his disciples on various occasions. He appeared out of nowhere and disappeared just as quickly, then at the end rose up to heaven. 1 Corinthians 15:50 shows that flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of God. So when Jesus went up to heaven in front of his people, it was as a spirit being.