Thanks for turning more attention to patch-programming. That’s my main interest wrt modular and sequencing is a classic task. As for the objections you’ve gotten, we should all know that just as specialized sequencer modules ’beat’ pat-programmed ones, so also grooveboxea deliver more capabilities cheaper and laptops still more for the least money of all (assuming one already has a computer.) It’s not all about price/performance ratios.
Nice! Doing this kind of patching is what gave me the idea for that DAC module! (Though of course the finished product is a lot less flexible than the patch you've got going here)
Making a (for me at least) complex patch sing like this and also explain it so you can understand both the patch and concept behind it is such a feat. Amazing Video, thank you!
Nice video I like the idea to use basic building blocks over more complex modules. Thanks for making this. Even though I don't own any of those modules I was able to re-create the example using VCV rack.
@TomChurchill - here is my VCV version - ua-cam.com/video/sstnojGaEW8/v-deo.html (since I don't have the modules in hardware). Thanks so much for explaining this concept. I would love to see other uses for clock dividers, sequential switches, and matrix mixers to create that 'more than the sum of their parts' effect.
I really do think you might be the best modular UA-camr now Tom, just great stuff. Your sponsored videos are good (and I know it wasn’t sponsored, but I’ve watched the Odessa one a hundred times !) but when you go full professor like this, I take notes. So so helpful!
Awesome sounding patch, Tom. Thanks for sharing this workshop. Utilities are so cool and interesting. It’s inspiring to see someone patching and tweaking them in their own unique way.🖖
This is a really interesting idea, fiddled around with some similar concepts in VCV - wondering if there's a VC Matrix mixer that you could put into a patch like this to evolve the sequences...hmmm
While watching this video I came to this point where I asked : is this about music or solving mathematic equations, using dividers, switches, sequences, offsets, bothering the mind and consuming a forest of cables. Result: a repetitive sequence driving the voices. Can be the summer heat but I doubt I find this worth setting up. Too complicated, is my first response. Alternative: grab a good sequencer with 4 outs and let it randomize length, pitch, mod, ratchets, put in a scale, add random envelope generators and you're done.
Fair enough - definitely not suggesting this is the only approach worth considering! Personally I'm less interested in randomly generated sequences and more interested in systems that can generate complex and intentional results from simple inputs. What bothers one mind stimulates another, I guess! :)
Well yes, obviously the Erica and Five12 sequencers are more powerful - they are large, expensive, dedicated sequencers! I’m just trying to show what’s possible by combining some simple old-school building blocks here. Sometimes methods like this can result in happy accidents that you wouldn’t come up with otherwise, for me at least. But it’s clearly not an approach for everyone 😀
@@TomChurchill The point is taken, but so far, I've heard very little compelling music made this way, there's just too many limitations to do anything of real substance from a real compositional point of view. My sound SOURCES, on the other hand, are almost entirely analog (in a sea of tiny digital source sources and processors, as has radically become the fashion in the euro world over the past 5 years or so)--which makes a huge difference to me, tonally. It has actually never been cheaper to use a sophisticated sequencer, the Erica was already well priced and the Five12 is quite discounted these days, I think you would need many, many more modules with a much higher total cost to do anything resembling the compositional complexity they let you do--with the built in subsequences, cv mods, and probability, I personally think they lead one to way more happy accidents than much more linear analog sequencers, even used the mother of all quantizers in the past (Sinfonion) and found the results were much more boring and predictable vs what one can do in the same amount of time on something like a Five12.
Thanks for turning more attention to patch-programming. That’s my main interest wrt modular and sequencing is a classic task.
As for the objections you’ve gotten, we should all know that just as specialized sequencer modules ’beat’ pat-programmed ones, so also grooveboxea deliver more capabilities cheaper and laptops still more for the least money of all (assuming one already has a computer.) It’s not all about price/performance ratios.
Nice! Doing this kind of patching is what gave me the idea for that DAC module! (Though of course the finished product is a lot less flexible than the patch you've got going here)
Making a (for me at least) complex patch sing like this and also explain it so you can understand both the patch and concept behind it is such a feat. Amazing Video, thank you!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent tutorial. Please keep on sharing these intelligent patching ideas
Nice video I like the idea to use basic building blocks over more complex modules. Thanks for making this. Even though I don't own any of those modules I was able to re-create the example using VCV rack.
@TomChurchill - here is my VCV version - ua-cam.com/video/sstnojGaEW8/v-deo.html (since I don't have the modules in hardware). Thanks so much for explaining this concept. I would love to see other uses for clock dividers, sequential switches, and matrix mixers to create that 'more than the sum of their parts' effect.
tom, i am so amazed by the quality of your tutorials - the techniques, concepts , modules you're using. it is truly inspiring, thank you!
I really do think you might be the best modular UA-camr now Tom, just great stuff. Your sponsored videos are good (and I know it wasn’t sponsored, but I’ve watched the Odessa one a hundred times !) but when you go full professor like this, I take notes. So so helpful!
Cheers, I really appreciate that! Glad it’s useful.
My kinda patch! Nice work 👍
Loved this. Informative and musical. Thank you
This is so damn good. Every time I see you use that Rung Divisions module in a patch I get one step closer to buying one!
Haha! Well, I can almost guarantee you won’t regret it if you do 😀
Another inspiring tutorial, keep em coming, cheers
Awesome sounding patch, Tom. Thanks for sharing this workshop. Utilities are so cool and interesting. It’s inspiring to see someone patching and tweaking them in their own unique way.🖖
Cheers! Hope it was useful 😀
great vid
Thanks for sharing...more like this❤
seriously good
This is a really interesting idea, fiddled around with some similar concepts in VCV - wondering if there's a VC Matrix mixer that you could put into a patch like this to evolve the sequences...hmmm
Yeah, I think something like the 4MS VCA Matrix would take this to whole other level!
Really awesome video, thanks! Do I spot some new nekiya modules here too?
Thanks! And yes, I may have inadvertently let the cat out of the bag there 😂
Oh wow mate... 👌 😊
this intro to this video is in the same key of the video i just watched (cmin)
While watching this video I came to this point where I asked : is this about music or solving mathematic equations, using dividers, switches, sequences, offsets, bothering the mind and consuming a forest of cables. Result: a repetitive sequence driving the voices. Can be the summer heat but I doubt I find this worth setting up. Too complicated, is my first response. Alternative: grab a good sequencer with 4 outs and let it randomize length, pitch, mod, ratchets, put in a scale, add random envelope generators and you're done.
Fair enough - definitely not suggesting this is the only approach worth considering! Personally I'm less interested in randomly generated sequences and more interested in systems that can generate complex and intentional results from simple inputs. What bothers one mind stimulates another, I guess! :)
Sounds like the Erica Black Sequencer
Agreed, Five12 Vector is the best at this.
Well yes, obviously the Erica and Five12 sequencers are more powerful - they are large, expensive, dedicated sequencers! I’m just trying to show what’s possible by combining some simple old-school building blocks here. Sometimes methods like this can result in happy accidents that you wouldn’t come up with otherwise, for me at least. But it’s clearly not an approach for everyone 😀
@@TomChurchill The point is taken, but so far, I've heard very little compelling music made this way, there's just too many limitations to do anything of real substance from a real compositional point of view. My sound SOURCES, on the other hand, are almost entirely analog (in a sea of tiny digital source sources and processors, as has radically become the fashion in the euro world over the past 5 years or so)--which makes a huge difference to me, tonally. It has actually never been cheaper to use a sophisticated sequencer, the Erica was already well priced and the Five12 is quite discounted these days, I think you would need many, many more modules with a much higher total cost to do anything resembling the compositional complexity they let you do--with the built in subsequences, cv mods, and probability, I personally think they lead one to way more happy accidents than much more linear analog sequencers, even used the mother of all quantizers in the past (Sinfonion) and found the results were much more boring and predictable vs what one can do in the same amount of time on something like a Five12.