With all due respect, without a solid definition of “self” these metaphors become complicated and convoluted. I think the dual vortices are a much more complicated metaphor than what is actually happening. Then, to compare them to other vortices is as lazy as Q conspiracists. We have no evidence that those cultures were using those symbols in this same contact (dissolving trauma). Sigh. I think we need to be very careful in this work not to fall into projecting our ideas onto ancient culture unless very specific evidence is given.
I agree with you on what you said about our problem of projecting. The only thing I think he could have meant by self is that, if you watch his videos, he describes the version of us that is unbridled by trauma. The part of us that isn't an automatic trigger response and that's curious, thoughtful, and at ease. Of course, I have no idea what he really meant im just spitballing
He has never claimed that they used those symbols in the same context. He just found it interesting that it's been used in various cultures, often within a spiritual context. It sounds like you haven't followed his work or read his books and are jumping to conclusions instead.
My animal body became angry that there's always a white male voice telling me what is happening. No disrespect intended, this is what happened for me. Unity without diversity is what exactly?
The movie Life of Pi is all about the dynamics expressed here in this talk. Would highly recommend it in this context.
Peter Levine is a genious.
I very much appreciate your teachings!
I hope more of this are coming out on UA-cam, we dont know how much is Mr. Levine gonna be around.
What a profound talk! Thanks for sharing.
So beautiful explained! Thank you! 🙏🏻❤
With all due respect, without a solid definition of “self” these metaphors become complicated and convoluted. I think the dual vortices are a much more complicated metaphor than what is actually happening. Then, to compare them to other vortices is as lazy as Q conspiracists. We have no evidence that those cultures were using those symbols in this same contact (dissolving trauma). Sigh. I think we need to be very careful in this work not to fall into projecting our ideas onto ancient culture unless very specific evidence is given.
I agree with you on what you said about our problem of projecting. The only thing I think he could have meant by self is that, if you watch his videos, he describes the version of us that is unbridled by trauma. The part of us that isn't an automatic trigger response and that's curious, thoughtful, and at ease. Of course, I have no idea what he really meant im just spitballing
He has never claimed that they used those symbols in the same context. He just found it interesting that it's been used in various cultures, often within a spiritual context. It sounds like you haven't followed his work or read his books and are jumping to conclusions instead.
My animal body became angry that there's always a white male voice telling me what is happening. No disrespect intended, this is what happened for me. Unity without diversity is what exactly?
It's scary.
It's the hive.
Horse wild; daoist poetry
Vitalism, trauma can return us to?