The Most Disappointing Silent Hill Game
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The “first 3 -4 of the series” gag always get me
Okay good. Phew.
@@maxderratnope, that was funny
@@maxderrat don't worry, I still remember when 4 was the black sheep of the series. It’s the only team silent game I’ve not finished. Heck I’ve beaten 3 of the Western-made games, (just have to beat 4 and Origins and I can call myself a proper Silent Hill fan again lol oh and also short message if I can get past feeling motion sickness in the first person view lol)
@sonicsean34
Heh. Ya. I remember when 4 was hated on for not being as good. Nowadays Id love a silent hill game as good as 4. But I am an old. I played the first 4 games in late HS/early 20s. think if I was not an old, I might have more appreciation for the later 4 than I do. The first 3 though at the times they came out games like that *had never been done* .
Console games in the West were *just* breaking out of the "video games are for kids with kid appropriate themes" concept that was so prevelant.
And to see something so twisted and dark...it was jawdropping.
They were lightning in a bottle, at the time.
@@sonicsean34before 4 2 was the black sheep because the fans wants a follow-up sequel to the first game
“Silent hill downpour is the most disappointing silent hill game”
*silent hill ascension* : hold my micro transactions
Eh. We all knew Ascension would suck. So for that reason, it was less disappointing than Downpour. I had high hopes for DP, and it honestly had a lot of great ideas but the monster design and, once again, incredible lack of subtlety let it down again…
Something tells me you're a downpour lover..... Its still the worst ever.
@@terrencepoinsett4169 are you talking about me?
@@terrencepoinsett4169 are you talking about me??
@@terrencepoinsett4169To each their own. But Downpour has way more positive elements.
So Homecoming’s real sin in my opinion isn’t the clunky combat. It’s that they decided to make ammunition scarce, but also prevented the player from being able to run away. All the previous silent hill games understood the classic survival horror formula was to avoid using your gun and stock up (or not and have a hard end boss fight). They made most combats optional. Homecoming made melee combat clunky and likely to injure you, but running away usually ended in a locked door and a parade of horrors behind you ready to murder your face. The kind of game Homecoming presents needed more bullets.
How about the whole concept that they were gonna beef up the combat cause your character was a badass soldier!! Oh wait no he’s just psychotic and shouldn’t be good at fighting… whoops!!!
Homecoming is the first Silent Hill where I as the player, learn the pattern of the monster's attack set. so for me, yes it's kind of clunky. But I also really enjoyed it much, the battle against the bladed spiders and Scarlet Fitch are absolutely addictive for me
Eh, As someone who's played HC, you can run away from like 75% of encounters
The ammo limit was also a fumb idea
I think a "Spirit of Silent Hill" video is a great video to do for the future of the franchise. I think the one great benefit to that is we know blooper team and many other development studios working on the Silent Hill franchise will take a look at the audience reception and feedback of fans, reviews, and overall support for how they take their specific game's approach (Not including Ascension). With a video fully demonstrating the "Feel and Spirit" of Silent Hill for those developers from you, they can take that and use it to fully understand and utilize the tools and decisions to truly appease fans of the franchise and finally bring back that old spirit of Silent Hill. As for Downpour, I have not played the game yet, only played 1 and 2 so far but know every game. I feel that despite not playing it, I like what it brought to the table, and how the developers tried to implement some sort of feel for the town of Silent Hill. You can clearly see it in some scenarios where they tried their hardest to make it feel like the Town itself is keeping them all there. I hope to try that one soon, but for now, I have still have two more Silent Hill games I own to complete before tackling the western Silent Hill games. Keel up the amazing work Max!
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I totally agree. Silent Hill means a lot of different things for a lot of different people, yet all of the games have certain themes that set the franchise apart from others. For example, there's the huge focus on family. SH1, Shattered Memories, and Downpour all involve parents. SH3, Homecoming, and a game I won't spoil involve orphaned kids. SH2 and the Silent Hills PT involved a husband and wife, and Origins involves both a father and son and a mother and daughter. Only the Room lacks any direct family connection.
Another aspect is the Curse of Toluca Lake, which we know had been active for generations on the southern shore (Homecoming) shore but only really became active in the town of Silent Hill because of Alyssa's trauma. I think we can confirm that one of the huge problems with the newest game was that it had zero connection to Toluca Lake, which left it feeling like the name was unearned. I think there are ways to connect games set elsewhere with Toluca Lake (they did it with the Amityville franchise), but that connection needs to be there for people to accept the games as being Silent Hill. I know The Room got a lot of flak because it surrounded events only mentioned in a newspaper article, but at least they tried to directly connect it to the curse.
I didn't hate the new game, but they really did miss the mark. Had it not been marketed as a SH game, it probably would've gotten much better reviews. But they obviously didn't know what makes a game SH and instead just tried to borrow elements from the franchise. Having a video that really gets into what makes Silent Hill stand out from other franchises could be the very thing needed to help Bloober get the franchise back on track.
I wouldn't hold my breath. After the Short Message & the whole Silent Hill phenomenon BS that treats Silent Hill more like a mental illness and discards the infamous of the same name, me and many other lost hope for this franchise.
I think the only game that might turn out somewhat decent is Silent Hill F since there's actual horror professionals involved.
This might be my favourite video in your series, Max. Really well done mate.
Downpour is often in the crosshair of the harshest Silent Hill criticism. I became reluctant to even say a single thing I enjoyed about the game, because it felt like an actual crime to do so. Nowadays, I think it's still underappreciated as many people are afraid to share their true experiences as a need to "fit in" with the more traditional fans.
I'm definitely keen on hearing what you think of the spirit of Silent Hill. I'm working on a project myself, "That Silent Hill Feeling", which takes a look at the same point. I'm eager to hear what you think of this.
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One thing I personally went missing with series was the historcial supernatural themes.
Many new players and even devs think Silent hill is all about punishment and traumas.
I know SH2 is many players favourite in the series and many games thereafter and even seen in Short Message try to copy trauma and punishment.
But for one who started with the first game in the early 1999 I loved the cult storyline but not only that but the historical theme of the supernatural.
The hints of indigenous tribes lived in the area already knowing of the lands power but it was used differently until settlers arrived and somewhat corrupted it.
Something old,something ancient,older than the town itself.
I hope future SH titles have more of the supernatural aspect of the town or if it's now spreading as hints already in Sh3 and homecoming and now Short message it cause and function.
I personally loved SH1 and SH3 the most but liked SH4 and Shattred memories for what they are. SH2 is a given perfect game but yeah hold SH1/3 close to heart.
I have high hope for Silent hill f.
The feeling as of now is a Silent hill with themes from Forbidden Siren and Fatal frame too like a rural japanes town in the 70's if plotline is correct?
It's like all my favourite japanese horrors in one.
Seeing as SH f might go back in time.
I do hope we one day see a SH I personally waited for taking time in settlers era of america. How it all started.
Like a Silent Hill + Roanoke take.
Finally, someone who understands what Silent Hill is about.
3 ended the cult storyline though. Heather kills their leader and their god. Team Silent didn't want to keep that plot going, as evident in 4. Homecoming brought the cult back, but Homecoming is like Amazon's LOTR. Sure, they legally can call it LOTR, but it's not canon.
@@AshleyWilliamsN7 True, I just want more than just a copy paste of trauma and punishmemnt Silent Hill,it's more to the town than that.
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Well, Harry already killed their leader and their god in SH1 and they still came back.
Another element I highly appreciate Downpour for is how it incentivizes you to navigate through the use of maps and landmarks, sure the early ones did it themselves as well to an extent, but having to check street names and buildings in order to move more efficiently was neat.
I remember playing Downpour when it came out and I loved it. A few years ago I played the entire series with my brother for Halloween where I played the games he already did and he played the ones he never did and man, watching him play Downpour made me realize how rough that game really was lmao! I still enjoyed it and some of the things it tried like the side quests. Dead Man's Hand had me freaking out the first time I did it. But then there was the kinda goofy things like getting jumped by the sirens patrolling Silent Hill in the patrol car lol. Also I didn't like that the choices you made changed the endings. Like yeah multiple endings are a staple of the SH games but the past was always set in stone. In Downpour the endings implied different events transpired in the past, therefore changing the endings which doesn't make sense.
Is not like it's super Bad, but it has a lot of Bad things ... The worst is the monster design, the only One that feels like a SH monster is the final Boss, the rest are just generic and uninspired
I view Downpour as "The best of the west"
I would love a video focusing on what the spirit of Silent Hill is!
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Downpour's among my favorites in the series. The only thing I found disappointing were all the negative reviews that kept me from playing it for so long. Years after release, a good friend with good taste in horror and a fellow enjoyer of the original Silent Hill games told me she enjoyed it, so I gave it a shot and… I ended up *loving* it. It's tied with 2, 3, and 4 for my favorites in the series and I don't think it needs to be unfavorably lumped together with "those western Silent Hill games". I appreciate that you praised the story and Licht's contributions, because I think people unfairly complain about Yamaoka's absence in this one, when Licht did a great job in filling the void.
I disagree about it trying to be too many things at once and satisfying nobody. I think the designers of this game knew exactly what they wanted it to be and the end result displays clear vision in that regard. The humanoid monster designs reflect this game's story and motifs, such as the violence and murder of fellow human beings trapped in the same place, and their raw, unbridled aggression-the lack of abstraction feels very intentional and unsettling, and it fully feels like they are a reflection of the protagonist's identity and past. The Otherworld sequences and chases reflect the themes of helplessness, imprisonment, raw panic, and paranoia quite cleverly. You may not like these things, but they serve the overall vision well. And in that, I think it's more Silent Hill than even some of the Japanese Silent Hill games; it's got an indelible soul that helps it stand apart from the others without trying to cheaply mimic them. It has teeth, and it has an *identity* of its own, which is crucial for Silent Hill and psychological horror both.
I think it's undercooked-the bugs, rough edges, and some of the side quests are frustrating, all of which could have been polished if the game had spend more time in development. That's my only problem with the game. It could have been among the best in every regard.
I feel exactly the same. Negative reviews and everything I'd seen about the game kept me from playing it for 10 years. I finally played it in 2022 not expecting much but I was pleasantly surprised how much I was liking it. It definitely could be better but the team that made this game were on to something. Sadly Homecoming killed too much of my faith in the series to give this one the benefit of the doubt.
Lo Mismo por aqui. Downpour era el unico juego de Silent Hill que nunca jugue y me guiaba por las Criticas diciendo que era el peor Silent Hill de la franquicia. Hace poco me anime a jugarlo y la verdad es que lo Ame, para mi es el Mejor Silent Hill hecho por desarrolladoras Occidentales. Los interiores dan una vibra a Silent Hill 2 enorme, los enemigos son genericos pero calzan perfecto con la trama de la Historia.
No se como pudo tener opiniones tan negativas este juego.
I recall it being a developer vs publisher issue due to a few bosses and monsters and areas being cut for budget. the mine cart part being a hole level that ended being a ride for example
Konami didn't even like giving Kojima the time to finish MGS5. There's no way some c list studio was going to get the time for what they wanted.
13:30
Tbh the 'eastern' horror aspect of Silent Hill was always overblown, imo. The main inspiration for the series seem to be Jacob's Ladder and the Twin Peaks series.
As for the last question, I think a dedicated video would be cool to see.
100% this, there's nothing (exclusively) eastern about silent hills horror other than the fact the game was made by Japanese people of course
@@The_Sharktocrab What about the monster design? I think a good chunk of it is Japanese inspired.
@@Justmonika6969 what makes you say that?
You say that and yet all the western silent hill games are shit.
@@The_Sharktocrab"nothing Japanese about it other than the fact that Japanese people made it." 😂
Great video as always, and would love to see a video from you on the spirit of SH!
Best non SH but SH-like games for me would be Siren & The Evil Within series. Particularly The Evil Within series being also the best non RE but RE-like games.
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First of your videos I've seen (I think), and I'm going to go back and check out the rest of the retrospective.
Disappointing is probably the best term to describe downpour. While I liked it overall, it had the potential it never reaches.still has one of my favourite puzzles in the theatre. Not super tricky but it really felt nice to resolve.
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Personally, I think Silent Hill Downpour is the ultimate "untried" Silent Hill game that should be discovered by every person on their own. I've been genuinely amazed by the fact that when I finally played it, I unironically liked the game a lot. It's a game that gives and takes equal amounts which - to me - renders it the definition of the phrase "to each their own". I'd love to see people not absorb the negative opinions from the internet beforehand but to check if the games that are said to be flawed may happen to be ones of their favorites. Having subtle guilty pleasures like a game that is commonly regarded as meh or bad is not a bad thing in itself. To sum up my point, shall I say this:
Through the appreciation found in the rough, we learn who we are. Our own psyche and internal cravings.
it´s been a while since the last time i played downpour. i remember i was split but mostly going for disappointed. still, it did make me nervous a couple of times which i was glad for it (although i was playing at night with headphones soo...).
the monster had some effect for me that they where lame as hell but got something creepy and uncanny enough that even if i saw them chilling in the street, waving at me while drinking a beer they still would make feel anxious and the part with the mannequins was cool (also the side quest with the dark maze filled with enemies) but that´s mostly the only good couple of things i remember
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I think if Konami gave Varta another chance, they may have nailed the Silent Hill game feel we are looking for, they almost did with Downpour as you said it monster design is the weakest element. As for the quest system I loved it, it made me feel connected to the town of silent hill and made me interact with the town itself which is imo one of the strongest elements of the game.
Silent Hill Downpour gets a lot of hate but I loved that game and got it on PS3 back when it released, to me its the only one alongside shattered memories who actually respected the original 4 games and tried to put their own spin on the formula no matter what the people say about Downpour it will always be my 5th favorite game of the series. The developers are ex 2k Czech devs which made the first 2 Mafia games, so they were experienced they tried to do their best with the time and budget Konami gave them, that's why I always think if Konami gave them another chance they may have delivered a better Silent Hill game.
1:50, Henry's attacks in sync with the song made me laugh in a way I didn't expect.
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One thing you forgot to mention, which is crucial and has influenced the other world design for Downpour was the 3D TV hype at the time. These sections including the balancing mini game were there to showcase the 3D effects. I know cause I played it on a 3D TV.
Homecoming takes the cake on disappointment. But to each their own.
I think it's a matter of definition. I think the general sentiment you're getting at is that Homecoming is worse than Downpour? On that, I agree with you. In my mind, though, disappointing does not equate to "worst".
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The only time I played Downpour was on PS3 but I never got that far because it was so broken and unplayable for me that I thought that it crashed my system once during the gameplay. That being said, I know that PS3 versions of many games weren't as polished or well made as they were on 360 so whenever I can get Downpour for my 360 I'll pick it up and give it another go. The dedicated video sounds like an awesome idea, keep up the good work Max!
Nice! Been wondering what you think of this one. I think it’s the only one I haven’t played yet (aside Homecoming).
I thought Downpour was decent in regards to atmosphere and the actual places you are in (especially the streets of the town). Its major flaw was that it incorporated elements from the movies. I have the same views on Homecoming as well, although with Homecoming, I thought the characters were very uncanny yet really well done. I come from small town life and the scene where you run into your old friend Elle after so many years is very relatable.
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That cake analogy fits perfectly with how I felt about Super Mario Galaxy.
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...could this be a hint at a fantasy themed horror game by Vanillaware?
Can you do a video talking about the "Silent Hill phenomenon" that is reference in a memo of Silent Hill The Short Message, and the possible implications of the franchise in the future, because that seems to be the explanation to why the nigthmare is expanding outside the town and even the U.S .
It's not an explanation but a slap in the face for the sake of milking the franchise. If only they'd make a good game to go along with that. lol
I have thought about that... maybe I could do a Silent Hill Mythology episode on it.
10:57 I think Travis' ultimate enemy is the medical bill for his busted back.
I like the making a cake metaphor for Downpour, my own impressions at the time was that it was a lot like a cake except instead of delicious and in a cake mixing bowl it was a toilet bowl filled with spicy lava diarrhea, a soft serve topping of intestinal mud, and probably some blood.
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20:02 acknowledging other people's responses is ok once but more than that is too much.
20:48 that would be a cool video. I didn't play Downpour, I like the prison premise, prisons show up a lot in Silent Hill.
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you could try to design the next perfect game of the series. Like what type of combat would fit perfectly to a new Silent Hill game, or camera, inventory, puzzle etc.
What I liked about downpour was the town was more open to explore, the side quest were an interesting edition, the combat system to were you have to sort of rely on what’s around you to use as a weapon is a realistic choice and on a plus I love rain!
With that said the disappointing aspects is theres only like 4 normal enemies and the designs weren't too impressive, besides maybe the howlers and the doll ladies.
The otherworld is kinda mixed, it has interesting moments but not really scary. theres frame rates issues to were it looks like the game froze at times, and the cop lady is annoying :p
Great Video Max. I personally would love to see a video about the spirit of Silent Hill.
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should talk about that microtransaction online SH game "Ascension" I think its called
Yes. Out of all people I wish YOU make that "Soul of Silent Hill(s)" video!
Also, looking forward to see you on State of the Arc podcast!
20:00 "There is nothing wrong with that" Except the funking death of the funking series.While the first 3 or 4 games created a legend.
Thank you for the great video, Max. I would be interested in the spirt of silent hill video u spoke of
You should collaborate with The Gaming Muse for that Spirit of Silent hill video.
Just a suggestion, your decision.
How are you running Silent Hill 3 and 4 in higher framerate and looking that good?
I know of Enhanced Edition for SH2 but I have no idea of similar projects for rest of the series.
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Huh I was expecting the Wesley Snipes Blade quote "Some motherfuckers are always tryna ice skate uphill" which also would have worked!
I’m down to see you pick apart more on Silent Hills. And it’s Horror aspect.
As a casual Silent Hill player, I liked Downpour. It's by no means perfect and I hated the lady monsters and didn't like that they depicted the city as a therapist again. I also didn't bother with the side quests.
That said, I mostly enjoyed the visuals. That the city was larger than before and the whole law enforcement theme, because I'm a sucker for uniforms and American police cars.
Yeah a video about the spirit of Silent Hill would be cool
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As I continue my journey learning about this franchise I love Max's breakdowns making me go both "oh wow" and "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!" all at once lol
I would love to see the "spirit of silent hill" video.
What is the ost beginning at 2:13?
3:07 the cake is a lie
I am interested in any SH videos you want to do 😎 that topic you mentioned does sound like a good idea though
12:53 the horror in a scene like this can easily be amplified by having the character go through it with weapons drawn and in front. This way you basicly have confirmation the character is just gonna walk through an animation without anything happening.
While I like a lot in 2, 3, and even 4... I still say Downpour is my favorite Silent Hill game, and, to be fair, I can't pinpoint the exact reason, but it's the game I have played the most out of any of the other Silent Hill games.
Yellow Ribbons embeded themself into my mind...
Do a video of the spirit of silent hill, please! Would love to hear your opinion; do it less in a style of a checklist and more as a set of principles. Also, if possible, compare to other game franchises that are not silent hill, but feel like it, to build the comparison.
I didn't have a console to play this on when it was first released, but the game was killed for me during the promotion cycles before release because of just one thing: Theme song by Nu-Metal Band Korn.
Now don't get me wrong, I love me some Korn from time to time, but they don't really scream "Silent Hill" vibes.
i knew of downpour cause of a horror lets player since that lets play he would quote its locked and murphys face would pop up
I really like this one, and the waterslide part reminds me of the Goonies.
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I never finished that game I always start it and never finish lol
Max, blink twice if you have an avid SH4 fan pointing a gun at you lmao
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Has anyone ever seen the never mind it looks like you already did a video on this anime anime series serial experiments lain ? If so did you like it and would anyone like to see max derrat cover it ? Lol edit again because my first edit totally got mixed up but what I meant was it looks like you already covered the anime thank you max 😂
Yes that would be awesome i would love to see max break that crazy series down!
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You should definitely look into a game called Cry of Fear if you haven't already. imo its the game that captures the essence of silent hill the best post silent hill 4. Might give you some data points for your video you mentioned you're gonna make at the end of this one. Highly recommend
Iunno bro, i finished silent hill 2 with like 50 health packs. In alan wake 2, my storage thing was nearly full of unused things for both alan and saga.
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Max! EVIL WITHIN 2! Now that you are finishing up with Silent Hill I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend Evil Within 2. Its the best horror gameplay I've ever played. Its OPEN WORLD survival horror which means you're constantly wondering "Should I even be here? Am I lost?" something linear horror games can't give you.
i love downpour but yeah if you think about it it's a Bad Game, but i still love it and i still want to re play it , that side quest / easter egg from the room❤
So your saying Homecoming is better :)
9:53 Being an HC defender, I agree, the combat was really clunky, you had to pre time your timed blocks, and half the time it'll break through on the second block, but I find it interesting, eventhough it doesn't have much symbolism with the monsters, [again with this shit] everything is clunky and you have OTS aiming and doge rolling/melee combos because Alex thinks he was in the military untill the games revelation, him being a jealous psycho due to the circumstances of him needing to be [REDACTED] for [REDACTED]...
But yeah, HC was trach but BECAUSE of it being trash (and being the first SH I beat without shitting myself) it holds a special place in my heart, and the dialogue options and facial expressions are hilarious af XD
Yes, please make a video about what you feel the spirit of Silent Hill is.
I personally enjoyed Downpour, at least when compared to homecoming
Despite the departure when it comes to the monster designs, it did actually feel like a Silent Hill game (while Homecoming felt more like a Resident Evil game wearing a very convincing Silent Hill cosplay)
My patriotism probably also plays a role
I just couldn’t get passed the feeling I was playing what feels like a triple A asset flip, it’s almost like they build the story around horror assets then the other way around, the game had just a vague hint or a distant smell of Silent Hill.
I enjoyed this game when it came out. Definitely my favorite out of the 'latter' games. I understand your concerns and agree for the most part too. Downpour was just shorted on multiple aspects from honestly being one of the best SH games.
Really liked Downpour. Good game, not a fantastic silent hill. Appreciate the things said in the beginning few minutes and not just shitting all over it like most people do
Solid graphics? Maybe.. but on the E3 and screenshots before the game release looks better then the final version we got.
(I it’s the damn Technic that every AAA games make to show the game looks good at E3 and then water down the virtual’s)
Did you ever do the spirit of silent hill video?
I've only played SH2 and 3 and only once so this is my own little experience, but I had wayyyy too much resources by throughout the games, I think the only exception was when I fought that blind boss in 3 and it's cuz I suck and need to git gud
Downpour was a fun time for me. It got me into the series. The creature design and thrill ride sequences were the weaknesses for me. I do think that fan perceived expectations are part of the problem. I get the focus on psychological horror but that was only a part of the game. I always understood Silent Hill as the weird unfamiliar place where weird stuff happens. Lovecraftian cults, magics, gods, and a creepy neighbor to deal with. Lore is important and has to be enthralling but also tamed in its presentation. Not big cheap thrill set pieces. It's NOT a Japan vs Western thing. Plenty of games especially movies have it in the west moreso than Japan. It's a matter of how they look at what they can do and how ambitious or pandering they'll be. A low budget seems to bring out the best out of people, surprisingly. Because everything matters and waste what not.
I say this because some franchises and creators, for example, Call of Duty Zombies went through the same thing. Started out cheaper and full of small details and leaving things to the imagination but now we're at COD's Silent Hill ascension.
I like both Downpour and Homecoming for what they are and tried, despite being a far cry from what the series once was. I think both teams really tried in those games. Plus aside the flaws, they also did some things SO right (Homecoming's soundtrack and the way we explore SH in Downpour).
Homecoming had a real charm in its monster design, especially when it came to the bosses. I would be willing to give it a Top 3 in the franchise for that category. Downpour however, doesn't even need to be a Silent Hill game to be guilty of bad and uninspired monster design.
I agree with most of this. I thought the side quests were a good idea, and a true open world Silent Hill was a REALLY good idea (go figure). Also, an escaped inmate as a protagonist was a perfect fit for the series. Unfortunately, I found the execution was lacking in pretty much every regard.
When I think of Downpour, one of the biggest things I remember are the bugs and glitches. I played it on the 360 when it first came out, and I remember lots of frame rate drops and at least one instance of a door refusing to open that required a hard console reset.
Editing this comment after the end, have you thought writing a silent hill game, like with the base you can create a new story?
convince me to play Downpour, always got the question what ever happen in that game
Great video thanks.
Alien/UFO endings!
That's the one thing you need to get right!
I find Book of Memories to be the worst fake Silent Hill game ever made.
20:40 yes
I definitely want the spirit of SH video
Downpour was awesome! While it is unsubtle and often more bombastic in tone, the main story is an interesting reversal of the expected themes. It nails the landing, with the most interesting endings in the series (sans 2).
Since RE4, survival horror has largely been action horror. You will have more health than needed, because they’re dynamically spawned. I stopped playing AW2 because it’s all action and I have a convenience store in my pocket.
The creature design is astonishingly bad. You may wish to look up the concept art, which shows the original vision.
Hey Max! You familiar with Franz Mesmer? I know you like to shy away from overrepresented media but I think there's a very interesting and untouched, as far as I know, discussion to be had about Messmer (Elden Ring, DLC trailer). To pique your interest, and if I recall correctly, I think Mesmer's work was openly influenced or derived from the likes of Paracelsus; whilst most of it is pseudoscience his hypnotism would influence the likes of Freud, after which came Jung etc. etc. It was Bloodborne that introduced me to Mesmer and I've been seeing hints of his influence here and there in subsequent FROM~titles, to amalgamate Vlad The Impaler (who found himself at the cut-point of Orthodoxy and Catholicism) and Franz Mesmer (who found himself at the interstice between protoscienece and science) has to be the most obvious to date; and, in my opinion, has very interesting implications. One of those implications has been staring us in the face all this time but we were just so mesmerised by Griffith's invocation, we slept on Mesmer's hand pass.
By the way, might I add how cute it is that Berserk acknowledged Elden Ring's DLC announcement and firmly put the release date of its next chapter probably before their release date; two peas in a pod, abduction by Ottomans.
Yes, please make that video about the essence of SH :]] and we all should play SH2 masterpiece again ! :D
One of the best side rewards is getting to dress like a guy who steals from his neighbors.
(The clothes are from his corpse)
I love Shattered Memories as a game, but not as a Silent Hill game. That being said, I’m glad it exists and I really enjoyed it