Thanks a lot. If you like the winter stuff, episode 312, 326, 349 and the upcoming 351 will also be skiing for these birds. You'll also see how my gear evolve, mostly it's the rifle that gets more and more expensive without any increase in the success :D
I live in South Texas. I don't think I'll be hunting for a little bird in a blizzard or extreme cold. Dove hunting in Texas is one thing, but invisible white birds in snow, freezing weather, and wearing skis .... that's beyond something this Texan is wanting to do! I'll leave the little white birds for y'all to hunt. Good luck!
:D and you sir can have your rattlesnakes and the sun that tries to murder you. Far beyond what a northerner will want to do. Good luck with our season, hope you have some excellent hunts!
@@THLR - Weird that you'd pick rattlesnakes! A good friend at our church got bitten by a rattlesnake about 4 weeks ago in his back yard. It bit him on the hand as he was picking up rocks. He still can't move his fingers on that hand. They took him to Brooks Army Hospital in San Antonio because the local hospital in New Braunfels couldn't get him stabilized. Much more serious than you'd think. Stay warm up there, and say hey to Mr & Mrs Santa for me.
Thanks for posting a lovely video again Thomas, it is fair to say that as your fans and followers, we have been eager to watch your movies outside of the competition series 👌🏻
Thanks for that, you're not the only one. It's tiring sitting inside editing variations of target stuff. BUT it is an easy way for me to contribute resources to the match and worth more for them than me rigging some steel targets. Hopefully I'll find time for A LOT more hunting films in the future. Trying to book a chamois hunt for this autumn, hopefully that will be a very visual adventure.
Great video! I was stationed at Ft Wainwright 25 yrs ago. Hunting in Alaska is not easy. I chased ptarmigan for miles, never killed one. They are the ultimate game bird. Spruce grouse on the other hand is the easiest bird to shoot, ptarmigan are the opposite end of the spectrum. To kill a ptarmigan means you’re a proper hunter .
Hope it was a good experience, must've been great to have access to that kind of outdoors. We don't have the grouse here, but yes I've seen/heard it described as "dim" several times. I think the highest/ most difficult gamebird (which I've hunted) is capercaille. Pretty much like turkey in size.
Спасибо за интересное видео! У нас для охоты используются более широкие лыжи. Куропаток (только серых) стреляем из дробовика. Каждую весну в нашем охотничем колективе проводят соревнования. Бегаем на широких лыжах. И стреляем из дробовика. Из нарезного стреляем в основном тетеревов.
Almost the same as here then. Many shoot these birds with shotguns and dogs. I have seen the shorter/ wider skis. For the forest we use long and wide skis. For the mountains, the skis you see here.
Thanks for that, will hopefully be a fair amount of hunting films in the future. There will also be shooting films, but I think I just need to do the competition films parallell.
Fishing is one of those things I just never picked up on, which is a shame considering how relaxing and beautiful it must be. There is a lot of fishing here, I believe Europe's highest average weight for trout is found in one of the local rivers (Steigen area).
Thanks for that, very generous of you. Since the batteries kept dying on me, this film was made from a patchwork of clips. I didn't capture THE story, but I was able to stitch up A story.
oooo wow. awesome vid. i read your comments. Its a shame you dont have access to 17 grain HMR ammo like the accutip from hornady, or any 17 grain for that matter. my savage B17 in 17HMR shooting 17 grain, is by far the most accurate rifle i have ever shot.
I had to let the 17 HMR go, much because of limited access to ammunition and variations in POI with large temperature change. I ended up with a 221 Fireball and liking that very much. Glad you're able to enjoy your 17 HMR.
:D brilliant observation! Yeah, you need to enjoy the trip and a little suffering to appreciate this hunt. But it's a good exercise in beautiful landscapes.
I have found that it requires a little planning and not exposing the hands until the last moment. The hunters more specialized at this simply bring 4-6 magazines to last the whole day. I did catch a small frostbite on thimb and index finger, but it didn't reach any severity and healed well. It gives abuot the same feeling as getting a burn on the stove. Have a good season in Denmark, I had fresh snow yesterday so suspect you are better off for the incoming summer.
It's hard and I don't have the eyes for it anymore. Some ski and flush to spot the area where they land, I ski and glass to spot them at a distance. But I do flush a fair amount of birds as I'm not that good at seeing a different shade of white. Deer are much more forgiving.
The meat of this birds must be very very good to suffer like that. I never see you with complaints about the weather. Great video as always. Greetings from Uruguay.
Best wishes for the season! No, if you start complaining about the weather where I live, you'll quickly slide into a serious depression. The birds are nice eating and allthough I like ducks better, these birds can't be beat for the experience of getting to them.
Man, you Vikings are tough ! Great video, I've enjoyed it very much. Thanks ! It would have been a much better deal if the triple deuce was allowed though.....:-)
Absolutely, then I would actiually hit the birds not just harass them. Swedish law is a little peculiar on this point, so only rimfires and 22 Hornet/ 221 Fireball of the centerfires.
I would love to see some videos with the .221 fireball! A buddy gave me about 6000 cases for reloading but I have yet to get a rifle cambered in it yet. Not much out there on it and I think it will make a great little hunting rifle.
Thanks for taking the time. There will be some more winter episodes once I find time to edit them. Kinda hard to find the motivation when we FINALLY have some nice weather...
@@THLR The quiet/silence is a feature that I like about your films, it is unpretentious and even if you have the wind roar (which can be reduced with a fluffy) it gives the atmosphere of being out in the elements. Keep up the good work Thomas :)
Thanks for that. Yes, and apart from the hands the temperature isn't really that big of a deal when you are used to it and equipped. It can be a little intimidating, but so is a desert and if you have aquired the skills, they are both reasonable environments.
The 17HMR are good ammunition for hunting around a farm at close range. I hunt with my Browning T-bolt 17 HMR 16.5 "barrel up to 50-100m max 200m because even light wind can change the point of impact a lot. Very good shooting in this circumstances.
@@THLR Are you shooting birds with the 221? That's a pretty hot round. I've seen comparison videos between the 221 and 22lr. There really is no comparison lol. The 221 is devastating! Do you lose much if you hit the torso as apposed to a head shot? I would think the bird would explode on a torso shot!
@@bigshanemac14 not really, the bullet just pencils through like an arrow. We use game-specific FMJs from Lapua, Norma or Sako as they are stable upon impact. 50-55gr bullet weights and mild loads really brings the V0 down (750 msec in my rifle) and it makes for a very good bird cartridge. The only reason for the 221 Fb popularity here is legislation & bureacracy.
@@THLR Oh okay! It makes sense now that you are using an FMJ projectile. I'm in northern Alberta, Canada. We have to hunt with expanding projectiles. Well for big game anyways. No FMJ allowed. However this may not be true for small game. When I hunt grouse I usually use my .410 but have shot many with my Ruger 10/22. Thanks. I enjoyed watching your hunt!
That is actually a very nice rifle by the looks of it. If I were to buy from scratch, Tikka T3 partnered with a T1 22 LR trainer would be very high up on my list.
@@PassionforRifles That rifle with a Spuhr lightweight Tikka mount and a good bipod attachment point would be a very good start for anyone. I "grew up" as a hunter shooting Sako but found it very annoying to have a POI change after most flights. Eventually mounted a very ugly picatinny rail on that rifle and switched to Blaser when I got fed up with waiting times to have my rifle rebarreled. I think a T3 would have eliminated many of the problems I had way back when. Considering how many aftermarket part that now are available, it really is a rifle you can grow with regardless of how your shooting evolves.
@@THLR I am going to strap on some skis and head out to look for some Grouse tomorrow. It's closing day here in Montana, USA. It won't be as cold as it looked like for you but cold enough that my little French Brittany will be questioning the sanity of the trip.
It's usually hot all the time. I've been thinking about buying a accuracy international in 338 norma and I noticed you shoot norma mags. Really like your videos very informative.
Also from Texas but from the panhandle area and we recieve snow and have tempatures go negative or at least below 15 farenheit often during the winter so some of experience the cold but not the mountains and definitely not that much snow haha. just got a 17hmr myself which brought me here great hunting!
Gonna go put some big wool socks on...you got me so into this hunt, my toes got cold. I used to hunt snowshoe hare, but in a little deeper snow, more forested terrain...those little beady black eyes. The terrain in this handsome clip was open enough that I thought we might see an arctic fox out hunting the same prey. It looked a little too open for red fox. Can you hunt the reds?
Yes absolutely, the red fox can be shot when in season. I was feeling it a little when the temperature really dropped, had to keep wiggling my toes for about an hour until I could work up a heat.
That should be a nice one. I I had started over today, there is a good change I'd assemble my whole battery around the T3 action. I really like the idea of having a rimfire with dimensions as the centerfire.
Absolutely. You need the cartridge to self-combust when you have a handspanner. A handspanner makes a chambered cartridge just as safe as if it was in the magazine, pocket or backpack. I have replaced this 17 HMR with a Remington 700 with an aftermarket Recknagel Secura safety. With that rifle (and this 17HMR for that matter) I only move with a chambered round IF I can maintain absolute muzzle control during the movement (which is impossible once I start skiing and have the risk of falling).
Throw those cci rounds in the trash and buy hornaday 17 grains you will be way happier shot tons of squirrels and rabbits with them and they are way more accurate
Sadly, I can't get them (reliably) here in Norway. Ended up selling the 17 HMR and building a 221 Fireball because of the precision issues you mentioned. Considering the amount of work that goes into this hunt, it was just too much hassle to rely on the precision of the available ammo batches.
@@THLR Here in Iceland we just walk around with a shotgun. Since the ptarmigan season is only the weekends in November, there are alot of hunters running around and we don't like people using rifles around us. But some do still use them.
@@oskarbjorn I know. I have seen some images from the days when market hunting was still legal in Iceland. There was a much bigger population that here.
Nå vet ikke jeg hvilket kamera du bruker, men har sett folk bruke små myke verktøy for å trykke på knappene på kameraet. Har da disse verktøyene lett tilgjengelig, f.eks bare liggende under kameraet i baggen. Slipper da å ta av hansker når det skal håndteres.
Jeg skal støpe på noen "nupper" på REC knappen slik at jeg kommer til med hanskene på. Batteribyttet er dog det som tar lengst tid og får typ 10-12 minutter på-tid (ikke filming, men kamera slått på) når temperaturen er som lavest. Har med med 6 batteri til hovedkamera og 4 til Gopro, det er helt marginalt.
Very limited what I can get my hands on here. And with irregular supply I ended up selling this rifle and building a 221 Fireball instead so I could get control over precision.
The wind was yr primary issue not temp. When the bird finally flew the wind blew it out of sight full value 9 o'clock. Yr brave to be chucking a 17hmr in that Wind. Are you in iceland ?
Yes the wind is always primary on these hunts, but the severe temperature changes affects rimfire ammunition enough to also be a significant factor once you touch 100 on the range. This is northern Sweden and rimfires is what the law dictates in this region. Only centerfires allowed is 22 Hornet and 221 Fireball. In Norway I would've used a 6,5 Grendel.
@@THLR oh I see... The fireball is a great little cartridge. If you could treat yourself build a fire ball long throat fast twist. Chuck a 65grn btail at modest velocity.
@@Guide504 I absolutely agree with your assessment, but once again the law bites me and restricts the bullets used to 55gr. I have 221 Fireball on a Rem 700 in the works now, short rifle with supersolid mounts (I DO fall skiing, sometimes a lot), a "muzzlebreak" to keep snow off the muzzle and a compact, high magnification Leupold Mk 5 HD scope. Also hoping to modify a couple of HS precision magazines to feed the 221 Fireball, I'll get frostbite for sure if I need to single- load the standard magazine, I need to bring enough preloaded magazines. Hopefully that will buy another 30 meters over the 17 HMR which in return should give me a little more time for the cameras.
Yes and no. I can travel to Sweden with a registered moderator, but moderators are over-the-counter sales in Norway and not registered. I will eventually start the process of having a serial number on a moderator and have it written into my european firearms passport. The rifle is a factory 221 Fireball and shoots ok, not in any way great, but more than good enough for this hunting. With time, the rifle will be rebarreled in the manner you suggested as I expect the Fireball will last "forever" and the extra cost of fluting can be justified.
Hi Daniel, it is mainly legal restrictions for this area. A 6,5 Grendel with 100gr FMJ bullet would've been near ideal for this. Sorry for the late reply, today has seen a rush of comments that UA-cam hasn't displayed to me earlier.
@@Axu_02 Ingen problem. Det kan jo være rifla/ammolot'en min ikke går i hop. For meg var det dødfødt å forsøke å skyte på mer enn 100m, Ulf hadde null problemer med sin Blaser på 120-140m .
@@THLR I'm so sorry about the auto correct. However yes these 17 hmr is a flat on long rang shooting but because of the bullet so small, light, and fast... with a windy day the bullet does Drift away from the target. When I was at a out door range and sighting my 17 at 100 yrd on a windy day which was about 10-15 mph wind it was hard to get it on target but when the wind stop for just a moment I can hit the target.
Thanks for the tip! Unfortunately, we are kind of limited in ammunition selection/availability here. That's also the reason why I have left the 17 HMR (which is a super rimfire!) for 221 Fireball so I can reload and influence the accuracy.
@@THLR I'll second what Madjax Outdoors said. I've owned two 17 hmr rifles and neither of them could shoot the 20gr Gamepoints with any degree of accuracy. Any 17gr ammo will do the job. It all comes from the same factory anyway. I normally get the 17gr Hornady vmax and it shoots like a laser..
@@Catari73 Good! Do you use it for hunting as well? I did have ok precision with this ammunition at the range, but it was also a lot warmer there. I am fairly limited in what I can get in terms of ammunition here, so I ended up selling it. I now have a Remington 700 chambered in 221 Fireball shooting Sako 50gr FMJ bullets which I intend to use for this. Precision is nothing more than ok in the original factory barrel, but hopefully that will be a lot more stable in the cold. I seem to recall that it's something like 16 grains of powder comparet to the 25'ish one would use in a 223 or the 12'ish for the 22 Hornet.
Mine is too, but not when it gets cold. Rimfires are vulnerable, and outside the 22 LR biathlon ammunition, there is very little rimfire ammunition types available for cold weather. No wonder, the market is SMALL.
@@THLR Nice video. There is also the 222 remington, that was the most accurate round before the 6mm ppc invention. One of those calibers with fmj bullets should be good to avoid damaging the meat. The main problem with .17 calibers is that there is less choice for the bullets than in .224
@@blacksand9805 The 222 Remington is somewhat popular for birds in both Norway and Sweden, but not legal for ptarmigan in Sweden. In Norway you'll find cartridges such as 6mm-223 (6x45), 6mm Norma BR and 6,5 Grendel in the hands of hunters specialized on this type of hunting.
Thanks. Yeah, we tend to lose one or two days of hunting to weather on these trips. And this is supposed to be the nice part of winter, when the weather turns for the better...
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That just goes to prove that it doesn’t always have to be big game to have a memorable hunt, that was fantastic!
Thanks a lot. If you like the winter stuff, episode 312, 326, 349 and the upcoming 351 will also be skiing for these birds. You'll also see how my gear evolve, mostly it's the rifle that gets more and more expensive without any increase in the success :D
I live in South Texas. I don't think I'll be hunting for a little bird in a blizzard or extreme cold. Dove hunting in Texas is one thing, but invisible white birds in snow, freezing weather, and wearing skis .... that's beyond something this Texan is wanting to do! I'll leave the little white birds for y'all to hunt. Good luck!
:D and you sir can have your rattlesnakes and the sun that tries to murder you. Far beyond what a northerner will want to do. Good luck with our season, hope you have some excellent hunts!
@@THLR - Weird that you'd pick rattlesnakes! A good friend at our church got bitten by a rattlesnake about 4 weeks ago in his back yard. It bit him on the hand as he was picking up rocks. He still can't move his fingers on that hand. They took him to Brooks Army Hospital in San Antonio because the local hospital in New Braunfels couldn't get him stabilized. Much more serious than you'd think. Stay warm up there, and say hey to Mr & Mrs Santa for me.
Thanks for posting a lovely video again Thomas, it is fair to say that as your fans and followers, we have been eager to watch your movies outside of the competition series 👌🏻
Thanks for that, you're not the only one. It's tiring sitting inside editing variations of target stuff. BUT it is an easy way for me to contribute resources to the match and worth more for them than me rigging some steel targets. Hopefully I'll find time for A LOT more hunting films in the future. Trying to book a chamois hunt for this autumn, hopefully that will be a very visual adventure.
Great video! I was stationed at Ft Wainwright 25 yrs ago. Hunting in Alaska is not easy. I chased ptarmigan for miles, never killed one. They are the ultimate game bird. Spruce grouse on the other hand is the easiest bird to shoot, ptarmigan are the opposite end of the spectrum. To kill a ptarmigan means you’re a proper hunter .
Hope it was a good experience, must've been great to have access to that kind of outdoors. We don't have the grouse here, but yes I've seen/heard it described as "dim" several times. I think the highest/ most difficult gamebird (which I've hunted) is capercaille. Pretty much like turkey in size.
You folks are made of sterner stuff than anyone else on the planet. I can not imagine going out on a day like you showed early in the video.
Thanks. You kinda have no choice here if you want to use the outdoors, the statistics are overwhelmingly poor (250'ish days per year?)
Спасибо за интересное видео! У нас для охоты используются более широкие лыжи. Куропаток (только серых) стреляем из дробовика. Каждую весну в нашем охотничем колективе проводят соревнования. Бегаем на широких лыжах. И стреляем из дробовика. Из нарезного стреляем в основном тетеревов.
Almost the same as here then. Many shoot these birds with shotguns and dogs. I have seen the shorter/ wider skis. For the forest we use long and wide skis. For the mountains, the skis you see here.
We missed these videos, excellent 😉👍
Thanks for that, will hopefully be a fair amount of hunting films in the future. There will also be shooting films, but I think I just need to do the competition films parallell.
Love days out like this. My favorite is a small game and trout fishing in same day. Great fun.
Fishing is one of those things I just never picked up on, which is a shame considering how relaxing and beautiful it must be. There is a lot of fishing here, I believe Europe's highest average weight for trout is found in one of the local rivers (Steigen area).
Beautiful scenery. 🥶 thank you
Thanks for that, glad you enjoyed it. It is fairly extreme and very nordic, I am maybe 50 kilometers from the road system here?
Amazing cinematography! Awesome scenery, great shooting too.
Thanks for that, very generous of you. Since the batteries kept dying on me, this film was made from a patchwork of clips. I didn't capture THE story, but I was able to stitch up A story.
Great Video! Love the spot and stalk 👍🏻
Thanks for taking the time to view and comment. Yes, absolutely love this hunt, my only regret is not starting it 20 years ago.
oooo wow. awesome vid. i read your comments. Its a shame you dont have access to 17 grain HMR ammo like the accutip from hornady, or any 17 grain for that matter. my savage B17 in 17HMR shooting 17 grain, is by far the most accurate rifle i have ever shot.
I had to let the 17 HMR go, much because of limited access to ammunition and variations in POI with large temperature change. I ended up with a 221 Fireball and liking that very much. Glad you're able to enjoy your 17 HMR.
What beautiful birds and scenery. Also never expected to see you with a rimfire, maybe outside .22lr.
Thanks for that. No, this will be the only season you saw me with a rimfire, next year I'm bringing a 221 Fireball if I go.
Love this chennel
Thanks!
I really want to com toy session ,l'm in the occupied territory of Melitopol,Ukraine
@@user-lj1hv6rj5r good luck
beautiful nature and hunting 😀👍
Thanka for taking the time. Yes, the landscapes can be stellar here.
Thank you Thomas! For hunting video 👏👏👏👏👏👏👍
No problem, I am glad to be back doing what I enjoy the most.
Man that’s a lot of work, I would have just gone to KFC
:D brilliant observation! Yeah, you need to enjoy the trip and a little suffering to appreciate this hunt. But it's a good exercise in beautiful landscapes.
Very beautyful video and scenery. At so cold temperatures, it is a wonder how you can handle these tiny rounds.
best regards from Denmark
I have found that it requires a little planning and not exposing the hands until the last moment. The hunters more specialized at this simply bring 4-6 magazines to last the whole day. I did catch a small frostbite on thimb and index finger, but it didn't reach any severity and healed well. It gives abuot the same feeling as getting a burn on the stove. Have a good season in Denmark, I had fresh snow yesterday so suspect you are better off for the incoming summer.
@@THLR Oh yes, we had a little snow in Denmark last week, but most winters we only have a few days or weeks snow, and rarely below -10c.
I like the music , it's so exciting . thank you 😁
Thanks, glad you liked it!
That’s some serious glassing. All I could pick up where the eyes. 👀
It's hard and I don't have the eyes for it anymore. Some ski and flush to spot the area where they land, I ski and glass to spot them at a distance. But I do flush a fair amount of birds as I'm not that good at seeing a different shade of white. Deer are much more forgiving.
The meat of this birds must be very very good to suffer like that.
I never see you with complaints about the weather.
Great video as always.
Greetings from Uruguay.
Best wishes for the season! No, if you start complaining about the weather where I live, you'll quickly slide into a serious depression. The birds are nice eating and allthough I like ducks better, these birds can't be beat for the experience of getting to them.
I’ve hunted all my life. It’s not just about the fare. The outdoors, the pursuit, the struggle, suffering. It’s all part of it.
Absolutely agree Jason!
Man, you Vikings are tough ! Great video, I've enjoyed it very much. Thanks ! It would have been a much better deal if the triple deuce was allowed though.....:-)
Absolutely, then I would actiually hit the birds not just harass them. Swedish law is a little peculiar on this point, so only rimfires and 22 Hornet/ 221 Fireball of the centerfires.
@@THLR .221 Fireball would be a big step up then. Why don't you go that route ?
@@Josefselvadek I am currently doing that.
I would love to see some videos with the .221 fireball! A buddy gave me about 6000 cases for reloading but I have yet to get a rifle cambered in it yet.
Not much out there on it and I think it will make a great little hunting rifle.
Great stuff, man. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for taking the time. There will be some more winter episodes once I find time to edit them. Kinda hard to find the motivation when we FINALLY have some nice weather...
Another great video - prefer no music thanks Thomas
I'm not too fond of music in the films myself, but sometimes I simply don't have good enough audio recordings and need to mask it with music.
@@THLR The quiet/silence is a feature that I like about your films, it is unpretentious and even if you have the wind roar (which can be reduced with a fluffy) it gives the atmosphere of being out in the elements. Keep up the good work Thomas :)
Your comment has been taken to heart and there will be minimum music in future films.
I took my last 5 with a cz452-MT .22cal. Always loved the extra challenge of the .22lr happy hunting!
🥃cheers🍻
Respect! Doing this hunt with a plain 22 LR is hard work!
Thank you and your an inspiration to push the limits on paper then apply the lessons learned in the field.
🥃cheers🍻
@@jackdaniels7913 Thanks, that's mission accomplished for me if another shooter improves himself/herself.
Welp that's a huge congratulations! Anyone that watches a full video is bound to pick up something even if it's on a subconscious level...
🥃cheers🍻
Good video! Miss the hunting videos
Thanks for that Jay, glad to be back doing them. I find they strike closer to my heart than the shooting episodes.
Man what a beautiful location.love the wild life there. The temperature was a little rough though but it's part of some hunts great video as always
Thanks for that. Yes, and apart from the hands the temperature isn't really that big of a deal when you are used to it and equipped. It can be a little intimidating, but so is a desert and if you have aquired the skills, they are both reasonable environments.
Anything new coming out I'm missing the cool video's and locations lol
The 17HMR are good ammunition for hunting around a farm at close range.
I hunt with my Browning T-bolt 17 HMR 16.5 "barrel up to 50-100m max 200m
because even light wind can change the point of impact a lot.
Very good shooting in this circumstances.
Absolutely agree. I've since ditched the HMR in favour of a 221 Fireball for the very reasons you name!
@@THLR Are you shooting birds with the 221? That's a pretty hot round. I've seen comparison videos between the 221 and 22lr. There really is no comparison lol. The 221 is devastating! Do you lose much if you hit the torso as apposed to a head shot? I would think the bird would explode on a torso shot!
@@bigshanemac14 not really, the bullet just pencils through like an arrow. We use game-specific FMJs from Lapua, Norma or Sako as they are stable upon impact. 50-55gr bullet weights and mild loads really brings the V0 down (750 msec in my rifle) and it makes for a very good bird cartridge. The only reason for the 221 Fb popularity here is legislation & bureacracy.
@@THLR Oh okay! It makes sense now that you are using an FMJ projectile. I'm in northern Alberta, Canada. We have to hunt with expanding projectiles. Well for big game anyways. No FMJ allowed. However this may not be true for small game. When I hunt grouse I usually use my .410 but have shot many with my Ruger 10/22. Thanks. I enjoyed watching your hunt!
Gotta love that 17HMR.
I bet that you would love that new Tikka T1X in 17hmr ;)
That is actually a very nice rifle by the looks of it. If I were to buy from scratch, Tikka T3 partnered with a T1 22 LR trainer would be very high up on my list.
@@THLR You should write a message to Sako, i bet that they would be listening you ;) info@sako.fi
They don't make a 22 LR? I would have thought that would've been the biggest market.
They do make 22LR too @@THLR
@@PassionforRifles That rifle with a Spuhr lightweight Tikka mount and a good bipod attachment point would be a very good start for anyone. I "grew up" as a hunter shooting Sako but found it very annoying to have a POI change after most flights. Eventually mounted a very ugly picatinny rail on that rifle and switched to Blaser when I got fed up with waiting times to have my rifle rebarreled. I think a T3 would have eliminated many of the problems I had way back when. Considering how many aftermarket part that now are available, it really is a rifle you can grow with regardless of how your shooting evolves.
Nice hunting ... beautiful birds
Thanks for that Paul. Yes, really beautiful birds and well adapted.
Love the .17hmr
With a Ruger RPR .17hmr my best 5 shot group at 100yds all fit in a 1/2" square. Great practice rig, wind at 200yds is a challenge.
That's really Nice! Yeah, pretty fond of the 17 HMR but it's gone now in favour of a 221 Fireball.
You are a brave man.
They taste great.
Thanks & absolutely!
Yr a brave lad with a 17hmr in heavy wind. Lovely country though.
Thanks. Somewhat limited by legislation and availability. I use a 221 Fireball now, which is legal max for this hunt.
@@THLR ahh
I got the dates backwards
Have commented on the 221 before great little round.
Все как всегда 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Great video.
Thanks for that, a bit different from your home I can imagine :)
Your hunting videos are a cut above the rest!
Thanks for that, glad you enjoyed them. I am gathering material for new ones and hope to have 10-15 within the next year.
Looks fun - awesome!
This is one of my favorite hunts by far. Grand nature experience and no heavy lifting once you're successful.
@@THLR I am going to strap on some skis and head out to look for some Grouse tomorrow. It's closing day here in Montana, USA. It won't be as cold as it looked like for you but cold enough that my little French Brittany will be questioning the sanity of the trip.
@@mrsnigly how did it go?
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Yes, great fun. Really like to hunt in this environment.
Another great video!
Thanks for that. BTW, nice fox story on your channel!
Thank you so much :) It's just a child's play compared to what you are doing!
👍 from Texas
Thanks! I imagine the scenes are more the opposite side of the temperature scale at your location. Enjoy the season!
It's usually hot all the time. I've been thinking about buying a accuracy international in 338 norma and I noticed you shoot norma mags. Really like your videos very informative.
Nice choice, AI are really nice rifles. Thanks, glad you found them useful!
Also from Texas but from the panhandle area and we recieve snow and have tempatures go negative or at least below 15 farenheit often during the winter so some of experience the cold but not the mountains and definitely not that much snow haha. just got a 17hmr myself which brought me here great hunting!
What kind of bullets, fmj? I have a 17 hornet, same diameter but because it's centerfire priming you can reload it
I use the CCI Gamepoint ammunition. Seems to be no difference in performance between that and the FMJ version.
Awesome video!
Thanks, glad you liked it. Just in from Scotland now, hopefully some good film coming out of that.
Gonna go put some big wool socks on...you got me so into this hunt, my toes got cold. I used to hunt snowshoe hare, but in a little deeper snow, more forested terrain...those little beady black eyes. The terrain in this handsome clip was open enough that I thought we might see an arctic fox out hunting the same prey. It looked a little too open for red fox. Can you hunt the reds?
Yes absolutely, the red fox can be shot when in season. I was feeling it a little when the temperature really dropped, had to keep wiggling my toes for about an hour until I could work up a heat.
@@THLR Smart butt pad, I have one on all my wet & cold ground blind packs.
Astonishing.
Thanks for taking the time, glad you liked it.
Waiting for my Tikka 17hmr. I love small game.
That should be a nice one. I I had started over today, there is a good change I'd assemble my whole battery around the T3 action. I really like the idea of having a rimfire with dimensions as the centerfire.
Great video, what rifle is that? A cz brno?
Thanks for that, yes it is a CZ American. Can't remember the exact model name, but non-interchangable barrel.
@@THLR Ok, thanks for answering. Looking forward to your next video. Have a good one.
Thanks!
Would luv to try that mate....very good ..
Thanks Cal, yes it's great fun. Very rewarding!
Wow.. You must of been hungry sir..🤔
There's a fair amount of effort going into this hunt, but the reward is the experience and not the meat.
And you must be small minded
@@dinoXAs2 how so? I did not understand your reference.
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Tackar, tackar!
Can u use a small centerfire 17 hornandy hornet would b brilliant in these conditions
Probably could, but not entirely sure. The lawtext specifies max 55gr bullet and names 22 Hornet and 221 Fireball as legal centerfires.
@@THLR be worth a look 20 grain bullet very flat to 300 yards i use it to get rabbits and crows
Do you think it is ok to move with a loaded chamber if you have a handspanner?
Absolutely. You need the cartridge to self-combust when you have a handspanner. A handspanner makes a chambered cartridge just as safe as if it was in the magazine, pocket or backpack. I have replaced this 17 HMR with a Remington 700 with an aftermarket Recknagel Secura safety. With that rifle (and this 17HMR for that matter) I only move with a chambered round IF I can maintain absolute muzzle control during the movement (which is impossible once I start skiing and have the risk of falling).
@@THLR I 100 % agree and feel reassured now! Weidmannsheil
Your ton-ton will freeze before the first marker!
Nah, I'm pretty used to the cold. More worried about being boiled in the sun...
@@THLR I'm exact opposite, give me a hundred degrees, dry hot wind and a long walk...i love it!
@@jarenkiser8050 intimidating environment for me. Hot and arid mountains... meh, not without someone who know that stuff.
@@THLR i can't handle the cold ☺
@@THLR no mountains here tho, mostly flat and woodlands.
Throw those cci rounds in the trash and buy hornaday 17 grains you will be way happier shot tons of squirrels and rabbits with them and they are way more accurate
Sadly, I can't get them (reliably) here in Norway. Ended up selling the 17 HMR and building a 221 Fireball because of the precision issues you mentioned. Considering the amount of work that goes into this hunt, it was just too much hassle to rely on the precision of the available ammo batches.
Man this would be so fun hunting in snow
It's great. Hard hunting, lot's of work and great satisfaction when a bird is felled.
@@THLR Here in Iceland we just walk around with a shotgun. Since the ptarmigan season is only the weekends in November, there are alot of hunters running around and we don't like people using rifles around us. But some do still use them.
@@oskarbjorn I know. I have seen some images from the days when market hunting was still legal in Iceland. There was a much bigger population that here.
Nå vet ikke jeg hvilket kamera du bruker, men har sett folk bruke små myke verktøy for å trykke på knappene på kameraet. Har da disse verktøyene lett tilgjengelig, f.eks bare liggende under kameraet i baggen. Slipper da å ta av hansker når det skal håndteres.
Jeg skal støpe på noen "nupper" på REC knappen slik at jeg kommer til med hanskene på. Batteribyttet er dog det som tar lengst tid og får typ 10-12 minutter på-tid (ikke filming, men kamera slått på) når temperaturen er som lavest. Har med med 6 batteri til hovedkamera og 4 til Gopro, det er helt marginalt.
Hi Thomas! Is it ok with you? How are you?
Still fine. It is summer. I have a holiday. (And have finished some bigger projects which will be released later)
@@THLR Good luck Thomas 👍👍👍👍
Thanks!
Hi Thomas! How is your health? I have not seen you for a long time)))
Everything is fine thank you, busy with projects.
Geart video!, where is it, and what time of the year ?
Thanks for that, this is Northern Sweden early March.
Hornady ammo!
Very limited what I can get my hands on here. And with irregular supply I ended up selling this rifle and building a 221 Fireball instead so I could get control over precision.
Could you recommend a good silencer for the .17 hmr
Not really. I use Atec and have no experience with other brands.
The wind was yr primary issue not temp.
When the bird finally flew the wind blew it out of sight full value 9 o'clock.
Yr brave to be chucking a 17hmr in that
Wind. Are you in iceland ?
Yes the wind is always primary on these hunts, but the severe temperature changes affects rimfire ammunition enough to also be a significant factor once you touch 100 on the range. This is northern Sweden and rimfires is what the law dictates in this region. Only centerfires allowed is 22 Hornet and 221 Fireball. In Norway I would've used a 6,5 Grendel.
@@THLR oh I see...
The fireball is a great little cartridge.
If you could treat yourself build a fire ball long throat fast twist. Chuck a 65grn btail at modest velocity.
@@Guide504 I absolutely agree with your assessment, but once again the law bites me and restricts the bullets used to 55gr. I have 221 Fireball on a Rem 700 in the works now, short rifle with supersolid mounts (I DO fall skiing, sometimes a lot), a "muzzlebreak" to keep snow off the muzzle and a compact, high magnification Leupold Mk 5 HD scope. Also hoping to modify a couple of HS precision magazines to feed the 221 Fireball, I'll get frostbite for sure if I need to single- load the standard magazine, I need to bring enough preloaded magazines. Hopefully that will buy another 30 meters over the 17 HMR which in return should give me a little more time for the cameras.
@@THLR i see.
Get the sliperyest 55grn you can find i suppose. I would get a stiff barrel and flute it for weight. Can you use moderators ?
Yes and no. I can travel to Sweden with a registered moderator, but moderators are over-the-counter sales in Norway and not registered. I will eventually start the process of having a serial number on a moderator and have it written into my european firearms passport. The rifle is a factory 221 Fireball and shoots ok, not in any way great, but more than good enough for this hunting. With time, the rifle will be rebarreled in the manner you suggested as I expect the Fireball will last "forever" and the extra cost of fluting can be justified.
Cooking video with wife next please gg^^
Nah, I'm the one cooking all game. Which is a shame considering how much better she is.
Why are you using rimfires? Seems a .223 would give you better precision.
With such a small target there would'nt be much left with any bullet in 223, I have tried lol
and our country has rules when it comes to which ammo to use
Daniel L. You must not want to have anything left to eat.
Hi Daniel, it is mainly legal restrictions for this area. A 6,5 Grendel with 100gr FMJ bullet would've been near ideal for this. Sorry for the late reply, today has seen a rush of comments that UA-cam hasn't displayed to me earlier.
Hejsan!
What .17 HMR ammo did you use for hunting in this video?
17 HMR CCI GAMEPOINT 20GR JSP
@@THLR Tack så mycket!
@@Axu_02 Ingen problem. Det kan jo være rifla/ammolot'en min ikke går i hop. For meg var det dødfødt å forsøke å skyte på mer enn 100m, Ulf hadde null problemer med sin Blaser på 120-140m .
@Nikola Heimrik 17hme is accurate and stabile till 200m. After that it needs compensation
Hey man ur cool. Just need a little practice 🙂
Working on it!
Simo Häyhä did the same thing in WW2.....except people.
THings are a tad more peaceful now.
Is it for food or population control? I ain't ever ate one of those. Wondering how they taste.
Definitively food! It's fairly sweet and mild compared to other game meats. Very easy to cook.
It's a cz rifle ? That's really hunting :)
Yes, that is a CZ 17 HMR, cannot remember the exact model name (the barrel can not be replaced on this one)
I thinking because your barrel is shorter than most so that causes you to long out on range
No not really. The rimfire is severely affected by the low temperatures and my ammunition batch loses just enough Precision to not be accurate.
@@THLR I'm so sorry about the auto correct. However yes these 17 hmr is a flat on long rang shooting but because of the bullet so small, light, and fast... with a windy day the bullet does Drift away from the target. When I was at a out door range and sighting my 17 at 100 yrd on a windy day which was about 10-15 mph wind it was hard to get it on target but when the wind stop for just a moment I can hit the target.
The hollow points are not that accurate try the A17 or the Hornady vmac
Thanks for the tip! Unfortunately, we are kind of limited in ammunition selection/availability here. That's also the reason why I have left the 17 HMR (which is a super rimfire!) for 221 Fireball so I can reload and influence the accuracy.
@@THLR I'll second what Madjax Outdoors said. I've owned two 17 hmr rifles and neither of them could shoot the 20gr Gamepoints with any degree of accuracy. Any 17gr ammo will do the job. It all comes from the same factory anyway. I normally get the 17gr Hornady vmax and it shoots like a laser..
@@Catari73 Good! Do you use it for hunting as well? I did have ok precision with this ammunition at the range, but it was also a lot warmer there. I am fairly limited in what I can get in terms of ammunition here, so I ended up selling it. I now have a Remington 700 chambered in 221 Fireball shooting Sako 50gr FMJ bullets which I intend to use for this. Precision is nothing more than ok in the original factory barrel, but hopefully that will be a lot more stable in the cold. I seem to recall that it's something like 16 grains of powder comparet to the 25'ish one would use in a 223 or the 12'ish for the 22 Hornet.
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Thanks for taking the time!
Man my 17hmr is the most accurate gun out to 150 yards that I have
Mine is too, but not when it gets cold. Rimfires are vulnerable, and outside the 22 LR biathlon ammunition, there is very little rimfire ammunition types available for cold weather. No wonder, the market is SMALL.
Hard to spot them.🇨🇦🤠
Ohh these can be really hard in the wrong light. Add a little snowdrift...
17hmr 4.5cal 🤔🤔
It's even less, 4.3mm !
Probably right. It is indeed a very petite cartridge. Next season will see me with a centerfire, 221 Fireball.
@@THLR Nice video. There is also the 222 remington, that was the most accurate round before the 6mm ppc invention. One of those calibers with fmj bullets should be good to avoid damaging the meat. The main problem with .17 calibers is that there is less choice for the bullets than in .224
@@blacksand9805 The 222 Remington is somewhat popular for birds in both Norway and Sweden, but not legal for ptarmigan in Sweden. In Norway you'll find cartridges such as 6mm-223 (6x45), 6mm Norma BR and 6,5 Grendel in the hands of hunters specialized on this type of hunting.
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I suppose I can be. Not the worst fate
maybe try to use 17 hornet?
Very difficult to get components here, so no. Will try a 221 Fireball.
Tulle me rypa når du har rein i nærheten😂
Så du oppfordrer til krypskyting? :D
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Thanks, merry christmas!
Why shoot those birds when you have ungulates all around you?
The reindeer is semi-domesticated and not legal game animal.
@@THLR thanks for the reply. That's too bad but, I respect your efforts!
@@THLR so does a farmer owns it?
@@pakcanhunter the reindeer? Yes.
@@THLR interesting. I've seen documentaries of siberia but never thought theyd just let em roam around like that and still own them.
awww hell naw!
Not sure, but hope you enjoyed the film!
I was talking about the weather on the bad day, did enjoy the video
Thanks. Yeah, we tend to lose one or two days of hunting to weather on these trips. And this is supposed to be the nice part of winter, when the weather turns for the better...
Thomas have are you
I'm fine thank you
invite me to your place,
It's public land