this is the only review on the internet that doesn't throw high/ultra settings at AAA games and consequently cry for 20min about how this card is vram and bandwith limited... it's literally meant to be an worthy upgrade for the mass of gamers with low/mid tier gpus from 5+ years ago. bravo, excellent review.
That GTX 1080Ti of mine, while considered pricey at the time back in 2017 (around 800 bucks) turns out to be one of my best investments in computer hardware ever.
i upgraded to a 3080 ti a few months ago but my old 1080 ti is still going strong! beast of a gpu, would probably still use it if i didnt want in on some ray tracing and DLSS action
Dude it's embarrassing that's the market Deal between AMD and Nvidia AMD rules consoles. Nvidia rules PC. And third Challenger will be treated like heiwei.
@@Rayu25Demon I don't think so. It's Intel that rules Notebooks. A problem might be if the smalles ARC GPU is too good: 6GB, slot powered and if it has high efficiency, it might have a decent performance with PCIe 3.0.
Don't hold your breath. Intel has a track record of abysmal drivers. Just look at XE. Been around for a while and the hardware is very good for an iGPU but perfromance is terrible on most modern games (if they even run at all).
01:30 whoa look at that. This is revolutionary. I don't remember seeing something like this before. I mean this representation of specs comparison is definitely original. A simple table with three columns could also do this until you see this chart. This looks clean and the degree of difference look so fine and clear at this chart.
I bought one to put in a budget mini-ITX build alongside an i3-12100F. No regrets yet. My last graphics card was a GTX 750 Ti that I bought in 2015 and barely ever made full use of because I tend to play older games, and per benchmarks the 6500 XT should be something like 2.5 times as good as that card was.
Absolutely the best and most balanced review I have seen of this card. Finally somebody thought of FSR, took into account the 4Gb and PCI-E limit, and understands that a large majority of the buyers doesn't care about HW encoding (as you can do that on CPU for the 1 or 2 times you do that). Some reviewers did not seem get this is a budget card (even if the price is a bit high for a budget card) I even saw reviews complaining you could not hook up 3 monitors to this card, as if you can afford 3 monitors when you're buying this card!? Great work!
I like how you can keep a straight face while explaining the ridiculous specs of these cards, I'd be laughing my ass off if someone told me to market these cards. Great job by the way
I have the card and it works fine. Some games run at over 120fps. On paper it looks bad, but in reality it does the job it was designed to do. With integrated I couldn't run Forza 4 Horizon. I was get 3 fps. With the 6500xt, I get 85 to 90 fps running on a 3.0 bus.
Whenever ETH2 takes over. Then we'll have used cards for sale. But new cards will probably newer sell for old prices like 2-3y ago. Inflation, supply chain shortages, politics.
I just don't understand the hate over this card, nobody said it was going to do 300fps in 4K. It was always going to be a budget card in this type of market which is needed. Go ahead and look for at 570 on Ebay, guess what it's way more than this card. It is there for a kid who wants to buy a PC to play with his friends but doesn't have $500 to buy a better GPU. It's gonna do about 60 fps at 1080p, that's what the card was built for and that's what it does.
Good review - you set settings to use as much of the card as possible. There is only last step down that could be done - using FSR + sub 1080p resolution, like 1440pFSRQ.
Thanks! And I think that is just the only way potential buyers should approach this card, whether that's disappointing or not. But, I do draw the line at dropping below 1080p ;)
I'm not planning on buying this, but I'm surprised to see it not even being 200 Euro/USD at least for the first wave of the cards. It's understandable if the price would increase for later re-stocks, but at least the first wave should be MSRP. Edit: Where I've checked it's 300 Euro or more, just to make it clear. I did see someone mentioning it was available for 180 GBP in the UK before it sold out today, but I haven't seen the same in Europe yet.
ASUS and GB both have indicated 300-350 euros for their card. 200 euros was never going to happen even with a 200$ MSRP pre-covid, 250 euros would probably have been a bare minimum (taxes, etc). So I'm not really surprised. Tbh even 300 sounds "good" to me right now; 1650 costs 350 or more, 1650 super isnt for sale anywhere, and a 4yo 2nd hand RX 580 doesnt sound great either.
@@TechTesters you could pick up the sapphire and the power color models for 180 gbp until the 1st batches sold out. You can still pick them up for 225 uk pounds . The asus overpriced models are 278 and 329 pounds respectively .
Just wondering why amd didn’t make this card work tandem (Or Crossfire) with Ryzen 5 5600g or 7 5700g? Makes more sense to budget pc-builders… But well what a shame.
Not sure how well that will work, I remember a few years ago when they had their APUs work together with low-end GPUs (RX 550 iirc? trying to remember). That didn't offer a better experience than this card does today tbh.
@@broniusbronka2703 yeah, also i didn’t remember apu’s has a PCI-e gen 3 inside and it will make 6500 xt performance even worse… so buy regular prosessor with PCI-e gen 4 support if you are making gaming pc and a real graphics card, if you can afford it.
@@TechTesters Most people still have Gen3 motherboards and if you plug in this card to Gen3 PCIE slot, you're cutting it's performance by 50%, literally. So yeah, it is the most horrible low end card atm, 'cause even RX 580 from 5 years ago is better than this.
That big of a cooler for such a low TDP is kind of hilarious. At least it's quiet. Btw, I heard some people talking on Reddit about these cards having great undervolting potential. Apparently 6500 XT is so bandwidth limited that having high core clocks does almost nothing and you can drop down to 2500mhz level and lose almost no performance while cutting a ton of power. This card is a strange one... I wish they would have cut down power consumption and had a 6500 non XT that ran just off the PCIe connector
It’s a brand new GPU and a tiny 107mm2 die. They can produce 564 of these per wafer, and with 4GB miners won’t buy it. It isn’t a great GPU, but it is going to be in stock a ton more than any other GPU. I could have bought a 6500xt at $200 for the hour after launch. This is a hold over card so you can sell your old dying GPU or selling your newer GPU for a profit. This is the Navi 24 die, it is originally for laptop only, they just pushed it super hard to work for desktops. That is the reason it is limited to only 4 PCIe lanes. Sure, you can buy a old GPU, but when will they die? Not be supported anymore? Regarding the RTX 3050 8GB… why do you think they put 8GB? Because miners will eat these up in the mining SKUs, what reason would Nvidia have to sell the GA106 die cut down 33-40%? They are going to sell those GA106 dies for their CMP and laptops. How many 2060 12GB have you seen? Nearly 0 because it is a mining card.
I really hope it plays out like this and this ends up anywhere near it's MSRP. If it does, I think my conclusion that this might just be your best budget option (for now, given the rest of the market) will hold up.
Actually it was the perfect card when it released for budget builds considering it ACTUALLY sold for around $200. Any GPU it was compared to when it came out was at least 50% more expensive. Within 1 month I was able to buy one for $170 USD. If anything this GPU helped to force down costs on the used market because that's the only place where you could price compete.
question , i'm building a budget rig for a friend , with an i3 10105F and a cheap gigabyte B560 board , this does support PCIE 4.0 ? that i3 is 11th gen right?
well I'm upgrading my motherboard to PCIe 4.0 and cpu to ryzen 5000 series, i currently have a rx 570 used as im on a budget i just picked up the rx 6500 xt oc for now it seems that its a little better as long as your using PCIe 4.0, got the card on boxing day for $140 CA this is temporary with be upgrading to 6700 in the near future. its exactly as she said its readily available and doesn't have to be permanent. all in all if you need a card on a budget i would say its worth it if your looking for something new and not used. you have the right to disagree
The 4gb is your new basic mid level gaming gpu so out with the 2GB AND something decent for your mid level gaming. For serious gaming you will need 8GB or more is great for hardcore gamers. So 4GB is good for your basic game play.
Mid-level (midrange) has been 6-8gb for some time now. 4gb has been obsolete ever since Watch Dogs 3 came out. A benchmark for this game using this card on Medium would mean it'll have to draw from the system memory. The only reason 4gb is now a thing again is because miners buy out the low-end 8gb models before any budget gamer could get their hands on them.
It can be true if you have 16 lanes / fast memory bandwidth.. Because then it can somehow survive when hitting the 4gb vram limit without too much penalty to FPS. But then try using it on PCIE3 device. Every time you will reach the 4GB Vram limit (and you will reach), your FPS will drop drastically. While a similar card with more lanes / better bandwidth can still play the game.
@@Manganization exactly right, now gamers prefer 6gb or 8gb over a 4gb. If your games are not high demanding then it will be OK. If games are high demanding then the RX 6500XT is not for extreme gamers. Maybe another GPU that should have stayed off the product line.
I paid $128.98 dollars total (includes tax and shipping) for the Gigabyte RX6500XT in Dec 2022. I'm hoping this was a fair price. I don't game a lot but I really wanted the DP port capability.
I usually watch all your videos but i think you missed the mark with this card's release. I bought a sapphire 6500xt at $199 and its a decent entry level card. At has some short comings and limitations but at $200 it will get you gaming and your not heavily invested in something that probably won't hold you for a few more years anyways.
The problem is that most retailers and other countries' retailers won't sell this for $200 exact. For $199 - $220 it's awesome. But here in my country where it's $300 to $350. It's not worth it.
Isolated like this it seems an okay GPU, however a RX 580/590 outperforms it while it's pretty much ancient right now... This really is a GPU one should only buy if you have a new system (PCIe 4.0!) & are really struggling to find anything else within your budget that's better than this hunk a dunk.
@@AlistairMaxwell77 RX 580's (8gb) are available here for ~€300 might even be able to haggle on the used market for less than that... The 6500XT is available here for the same price 😅
"If you play this game competitively, you should consider buying a stronger card" The reason this card exists right now is because cards are very difficult and expensive to come by. I'm sure some of the people who purchased this card on day one would rather have purchased a 6800XT or 3080, but can't find one, or they don't want to spend well over US$1000 to acquire one. I've seen and read a number of reviews that are just blind to the fact that these cards are only meant as an in-between, meaning they're largely marketed towards people who have everything else, and just need a GPU to get their system going... *or* someone who needs to replace a damaged and out-of-warranty card and just can't do it with the current market conditions. Reviewers and viewers alike should consider this.
So your genius excuse for this piece of shit is that it's a hold over, inbetween card...people want 6800xt, so $650 msrp card but settle for this garbage for $250-300 and then buy another card in a year and you spent the same money as just getting a good card now...what a stupid idea
@@samgoff5289 It's adorable that you think I'm making excuses. Simply adorable. People want 6800XTs and 3080s. People aren't gonna get them without dropping a down payment on a bloody car. So yes, this is absolutely an in-between. A card meant to get people's almost completed builds up and running after over a year of waiting. Take your malice and direct it to the companies themselves for not putting out more cards, for not ensuring they're priced reasonably. I'm not the one you're mad at, and you would do well to remember that. Not everyone is privileged enough to have $1300 just laying around waiting to be spent on a stupid expansion card.
Just bought this card (ASUS TUF Version)on Cyber Monday, $194.39 OTD but with an $80 Rebate. So at $114.39 OTD a great deal IMO, for my kids gaming PC.
Hello and thank you for the video. I have a suggestion, because the white font with the results really badly hurt the eyes. Is it possible to avoid those really bright screens ?
In the UK at least earlier on before it sold out 30mins ago it was £180 for a dual fan one. Couple that with a new pcie 4 capable cheap cpu and in this market it's a bargain. Of course if you have an old gpu or pcie 3 cpu then whatever nothing to see here. For one morning at least here a new budget system could of been specced out for 1080p decent settings at 60fps which in the current market is a OMG moment.
Yup! And Im guessing those 180 pounds dont really buy you anything actually better 2nd hand either right? It's still.a sad card, but it might still be OK for cases like that.
@@TechTesters Yeah looking at a high street UK 2nd hand tech store called CEX the prices for any comparable gpu is more than the £180 you could have bought this for at Overclockers UK earlier on for the decent but cheapest variant. Normally this gpu would be all kinds of meh but in this market for that price brand new it made sense in a messed up way. Would go nicely with a cheap Intel 6 core cpu capable of pcie 4. What a crappy sad time it is for PC gaming right now when this gpu seems like a deal 😢. Well "seemed" like a deal anyway before they sold out. I'm guessing the next batch will be marked up as per usual.
You should have tested on PCIe gen 3, which is what most people use. The PCIe 4x4 hurts this card a lot. Other reviewers showing this card losing as much as 50% performance on PCIe 3 systems.
I knew that plenty of others were already looking into that. There's only a couple of days of testing possible before a launch. Nothing wrong with testing for people with a recent system or building a new one right?
so i have a 6500 and i can tell you this card is actually really good for a budget its not no 3080 with 240 fps but its not completely horrible i play apex,valorant, cod, and fortnite and all them go inbetween 80-120 fps so not bad
14:08 Now beating an almost 3 year old (entry level) card (from their competitor) is a really sad compliment in my opinion. Hahahaha. This made my day. To make things worse, the RX 6500 XT even struggles to beat it's predecessors like the RX 5500 XT and RX 580. Oh, I think Gigabyte really killed it with it's 3-fan design. The RX 6500 XT is a 2-fan max type of card.
So by AMD standards this is "budget" GPU that actually costs 250+$. A few days ago they released R7 5700X, 5600, 5500 (this is lower clocked 5600g without iGPU and PCIe 3.0 because it is Cezanne not Vermeer). So AMD just showed us their marketing about budget gaming setup = 250€ for GPU and 200€ for the cpu. I would rather stick with 3050 and 12100f and it would still be much better. Most stupidest move from AMD since they released Ryzen.
Hello all. Everyone out there keeps telling us how bad this card is, how companies want to just make money from us giving us shitty products etc etc. I just wanted to ask this: For the average 1080p gamer that is not interested to video editing, recording or live streaming, would you suggest which card for the same price ? Every product somehow has its usefulness and after a small research I did seems like this is the perfect card for simple 1080p gaming on a budget. So, I kindly request everyone out there who has the knowledge to answer to what is the better, new card, I could buy for the same price and include it into a new pcie 4.0 build on a budget. Thank you all in advance.
I' never thought my previous graphics card, the 5600XT, would seem like a luxury item. Don't get me wrong, it was a very good card., but wow. As Chamberlain announced peace, AMD has now announced gaming in our time.
@@TechTesters Very true. Heck, I bought a 6800 Nitro+ at 25% over MSRP and have had no regerts since mid Jan. last year. I sold the 5600xt and CPU and RAM to a local kid in mid August 2021. When he had to ask his mom to buy them, I took his lower offer. I hope he's having fun. I enjoyed my late nights gaming, even in the SVGA era of Silent Hunter 2, Battle Hawks 1942 and Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. #jaggies
Tbh considering the gpu market, this not a bad option for gamers on budget for mid level gaming. This is a very cheap card. So you cant expect much from it. I think calling it a failure is a bit harsh considering the price.
awesomely detailed review, i would say if this card would have performed atleast closer to 1660 or the super, it would have made sense and also only it costed cheaper that those, PC gaming is getting to its all time low daily, low budget gaming as it is completely dead.
Mooreslaw is doing 2 reviews - as AMD fanboy and trying to reach 1660ti performance and as Nvidia fanboy, trying to reach 1050ti performance. This is one of the best reviews on the internet.
its amazing that you are comparing 6500xt with 6600xt...a card with double the price... the price compeditor for 6500xt is gtx1650...and 6500xt performs better
1650 came out 3 years ago for 150€ so it is not equal competitor. Better competitor would be at least gtx 1650 super or better 1660 but that card is 3 years old too. Best competitor right now can be only new RTX 3050 for 250€. True, it is a bit more expensive but it came out nearly at the same time as 6500xt.
@@kinzie3915 1650 is equal in price and performance no matter how many years ago was released. rtx-3050 costs 400 in retail here. 6500xt costs 230 the same price as a 1650 and also 4gb memory.
@@VagelisMilonas oh right so 150€ GPU that came out 3 years ago and runs on PCIe 3.0 is "equal" to the 2 months old 200€ GPU that runs like a crap on PCIe 3.0 but the price is the same so you decided it is equal? Yeah maybe in your universe. 6500xt is about 10-30% faster when it runs on PCIe 4.0. PCIe not PCIe 3.0. 1650 super on PCIe 3.0 can be compared to the 6500xt on PCIe 4.0. And if years doesn't matter in your universe, so does your comment doesn't matter. AMD fanboy
@@kinzie3915 in my universe 1650 costs 230 in retail right now. 3 months ago was more expensive than 6500xt. it's not fanboysm when you cannot aford more than 250 for a card. 6500 xt is sold as a budget card and nothing more. so think better
It's already bad on your PCie4 tests, and awfully bad in PCIe3 that you didn't test, "thanks" to the stoopid idea of limiting the card to 4 pcie lanes, which wasn't seen since ages and makes absolutely no sense ... But you're the only review to spot & praise the very nice heatsinks, backplate and thermals of the cards, the others were so upset they didn't look :)
I can get the ASUS Dual RX 6500 XT for CHF 169.-- at the moment. No so bad for the money. I would not game on this, but it is a nice card for a high end office PC.
i get the 4gb thing cuz of the miners.. but all the other corner cuttings, and bandwidth issue with PCIe3 boards, wich most people that would buy a card like this, will probably have.. this is a bad take on a budget card... i mean
Yeah, it's always about price tbh. At $100 this would be amazing, at $500 it's just terrible. Figuring it out when it makes sense will vary per region.
My Rx-580 8gb will spank that new card, most of the time. Did I forget, I bought for $179.00 US got 2 new games with it, this was in late 2018. Sorry your card is Not a good deal, and mine is 3 generations old.
2 & 3-fan HSF models are LOL! This is a 100W laptop gpu. AIB's could slap-on the equivalent of a stock $5 Intel LGA 775 heatsink from an i3/i5 boxed processor and call it a day. But no.., because then they could jack the MSRP by $80-150.
Gigabyte board currently trending at 169.99. You can't beat that price if your only gonna game at 1080p. The environment was completely different at the beginning of the year. Still a good review but would be completely different if this review came out now. you will have to drop your setting to low in certain instances to hit that 60fps.
AMD is genius. They made an ANTI MINING gpu. But surprisingly No one gets the point of this Card. Wake up everyone. Its a budget friendly GPU with new tech like ray tracing and fsr support. Finally budget gamers can buy a gpu with decent performance.
It can't really do raytracing though, minimum entry for that is still a 2060 (for 1080p) or better, this thing doesn't come close. If you need FSR for 1080p gaming to hit 60fps at already reduced settings that's not a good result either... This is a pretty heavily cut down GPU & it shows, can't even beat their own RX 580/590 nor is it useful as a display adapter. On the topic of budget gaming, a lot of budget gamers have PCIe 3.0 systems as of right now. PCIe 3.0x4 absolutely SUCKS with this GPU.
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this is the only review on the internet that doesn't throw high/ultra settings at AAA games and consequently cry for 20min about how this card is vram and bandwith limited... it's literally meant to be an worthy upgrade for the mass of gamers with low/mid tier gpus from 5+ years ago. bravo, excellent review.
Glad you think so! I prefer a reasonable approach over a dramatic one, and it's nice to see folks can appreciate that!
Having seasonic prime as a sponsor is respectable as they really are legit. Its kind of like noctua fans or gskill memory.
Yup. Seasonic are PSU kings right now.
A top tier PSU, undoubtedly.
Not only there legit they are top notch psu on the market
10 Years warranty but also solid quality(im using gold btw). What can we ask more :(
I like how we reached a point where companies really think we will buy any crap they throw at us...
And they're probably right xD
@@TechTesters Yep, that's the sad part
The current market allows companies to make any video card and it will sell like hot bread.
Result: The 6500 xt.
We will... the 6500 XT is sold out at most places and retailers have already increased the price of the 6500 XT to $260... so ya.. we will.
Your right
That GTX 1080Ti of mine, while considered pricey at the time back in 2017 (around 800 bucks) turns out to be one of my best investments in computer hardware ever.
i upgraded to a 3080 ti a few months ago but my old 1080 ti is still going strong! beast of a gpu, would probably still use it if i didnt want in on some ray tracing and DLSS action
People who bought 1080 Ti as flagship and RX 580 8 GB at budget (both for MSRP) were the lucky ones these past few years
Same for my used 2080 Ti which I bought for less than half its MSRP after the 3080 launched.
This card is pretty much a failure and embarrassing for AMD, can't wait for Intel Arc GPUs to hopefully shake up the discrete GPU market duopoly.
I really, really hope so!
Dude it's embarrassing that's the market Deal between AMD and Nvidia
AMD rules consoles.
Nvidia rules PC.
And third Challenger will be treated like heiwei.
@@Rayu25Demon I don't think so. It's Intel that rules Notebooks. A problem might be if the smalles ARC GPU is too good: 6GB, slot powered and if it has high efficiency, it might have a decent performance with PCIe 3.0.
Don't hold your breath. Intel has a track record of abysmal drivers. Just look at XE. Been around for a while and the hardware is very good for an iGPU but perfromance is terrible on most modern games (if they even run at all).
As always a very good review without any bias and other crap. Big like!
Thanks! I try :D
When the AIBs deliver a 3 fans cooling solution for a 64 bit card to make it more appealing..
I think a lot of buyers will just look at the number of fans or size of the card and think " more is better"
Put an EK waterblock on it 😉
That doesn't matter. Since AMD used a small die and cranked up the frequency it does result in enough heat to need as many fans as it can get.
01:30 whoa look at that. This is revolutionary. I don't remember seeing something like this before. I mean this representation of specs comparison is definitely original. A simple table with three columns could also do this until you see this chart. This looks clean and the degree of difference look so fine and clear at this chart.
Yes - this part is seriously good.
Not that “impressive” 😐
remember... its 4gb against 8gb.... and the 8gb its twice the price... this review aint good
I bought one to put in a budget mini-ITX build alongside an i3-12100F. No regrets yet. My last graphics card was a GTX 750 Ti that I bought in 2015 and barely ever made full use of because I tend to play older games, and per benchmarks the 6500 XT should be something like 2.5 times as good as that card was.
any updates with 6500xt?
One of the HONEST youtuber I ever seen , YOU deserve much respect for your explanation
Absolutely the best and most balanced review I have seen of this card. Finally somebody thought of FSR, took into account the 4Gb and PCI-E limit, and understands that a large majority of the buyers doesn't care about HW encoding (as you can do that on CPU for the 1 or 2 times you do that). Some reviewers did not seem get this is a budget card (even if the price is a bit high for a budget card) I even saw reviews complaining you could not hook up 3 monitors to this card, as if you can afford 3 monitors when you're buying this card!? Great work!
Not everyone is a gamer.
@@sulev111 well too fucking bad this card wasn't made for those people
I like how you can keep a straight face while explaining the ridiculous specs of these cards, I'd be laughing my ass off if someone told me to market these cards. Great job by the way
I like seeing you more often in my sub feeds. Keep the content pumping💪
A card worse than 2016 GPUs, AMD has outdone Intel and Nvidia here.
I'm currently in the process of building a PC, and I feel like this card works for what I'm trying to do.
I have the card and it works fine. Some games run at over 120fps. On paper it looks bad, but in reality it does the job it was designed to do. With integrated I couldn't run Forza 4 Horizon. I was get 3 fps. With the 6500xt, I get 85 to 90 fps running on a 3.0 bus.
Very clean, professional and unbiased review.
Except there is bias at 2 minutes in. xD
Gigabyte really slapped a 3-fan long heatsink on a PCB that is only 2-fan long and charged 100 extra dollars for it.
Great review like always. I just wonder when we will see normal prices for Gpu’s. 350€ is too much for this card….
Thanks! And I wish I knew, it doesn't seem like it's getting much better any time soon.
Whenever ETH2 takes over. Then we'll have used cards for sale. But new cards will probably newer sell for old prices like 2-3y ago. Inflation, supply chain shortages, politics.
@@sulev111 Maybe it’s happening. I was able to buy rtx 3070 for 800€ 2 months used. Price is not great but cheaper about 300€
@@TechTesters guide me which gpu I should buy Rx 6500xt or gtx 1650 super
@@TechTesters plzz reply I didn't decide which one is better and long lasting
The fact that this is widely available pretty much tells you what you need to know :)
Which one is better on pci-e 2.0? Rx 570 4gb, or rx 6500? both for 80 usd on my country, are the cheapest options
I just don't understand the hate over this card, nobody said it was going to do 300fps in 4K. It was always going to be a budget card in this type of market which is needed. Go ahead and look for at 570 on Ebay, guess what it's way more than this card. It is there for a kid who wants to buy a PC to play with his friends but doesn't have $500 to buy a better GPU. It's gonna do about 60 fps at 1080p, that's what the card was built for and that's what it does.
great review!
I'm glad you used market prices.
So many Reviewers stick there heads in the sand with MSRP.
I love the way she explained it VERY ACCURATELY! 😃
Good review - you set settings to use as much of the card as possible. There is only last step down that could be done - using FSR + sub 1080p resolution, like 1440pFSRQ.
Thanks! And I think that is just the only way potential buyers should approach this card, whether that's disappointing or not.
But, I do draw the line at dropping below 1080p ;)
At this point manufacturers know even if they release garbage it will still sell...
Your face in the thumbnail is all I need to see 😂😂
A serious quesiton: since people can get 6500 xt at $199 MSRP easily, how does it perform if you set up 2 cards together ($400) in AMD crossfire mode?
I'm not planning on buying this, but I'm surprised to see it not even being 200 Euro/USD at least for the first wave of the cards. It's understandable if the price would increase for later re-stocks, but at least the first wave should be MSRP.
Edit: Where I've checked it's 300 Euro or more, just to make it clear. I did see someone mentioning it was available for 180 GBP in the UK before it sold out today, but I haven't seen the same in Europe yet.
ASUS and GB both have indicated 300-350 euros for their card. 200 euros was never going to happen even with a 200$ MSRP pre-covid, 250 euros would probably have been a bare minimum (taxes, etc). So I'm not really surprised. Tbh even 300 sounds "good" to me right now; 1650 costs 350 or more, 1650 super isnt for sale anywhere, and a 4yo 2nd hand RX 580 doesnt sound great either.
@@TechTesters you could pick up the sapphire and the power color models for 180 gbp until the 1st batches sold out. You can still pick them up for 225 uk pounds . The asus overpriced models are 278 and 329 pounds respectively .
Just wondering why amd didn’t make this card work tandem (Or Crossfire) with Ryzen 5 5600g or 7 5700g? Makes more sense to budget pc-builders… But well what a shame.
Not sure how well that will work, I remember a few years ago when they had their APUs work together with low-end GPUs (RX 550 iirc? trying to remember). That didn't offer a better experience than this card does today tbh.
@@TechTesters don't buy this card for ryzen 3xxxg, 4xxxg or 5xxxg models they run on pcie 3.0
@@broniusbronka2703 yeah, also i didn’t remember apu’s has a PCI-e gen 3 inside and it will make 6500 xt performance even worse… so buy regular prosessor with PCI-e gen 4 support if you are making gaming pc and a real graphics card, if you can afford it.
Hope a heart from Techtesters is my dream.
Well AMD had the chance to make a good low end card for gamers, they obviously blew it.
We'll have to settle for " maybe not the most horrible low end card". :P
@@TechTesters Most people still have Gen3 motherboards and if you plug in this card to Gen3 PCIE slot, you're cutting it's performance by 50%, literally.
So yeah, it is the most horrible low end card atm, 'cause even RX 580 from 5 years ago is better than this.
@@FromTheHood research shows that 55% of UA-cam users already running pci gen4.
@@FromTheHood ok get a 580 card somehow then, people like you talking how older cards are better yet you cant even buy one
@@-nikifor-1546 I don't want one.
That big of a cooler for such a low TDP is kind of hilarious. At least it's quiet.
Btw, I heard some people talking on Reddit about these cards having great undervolting potential.
Apparently 6500 XT is so bandwidth limited that having high core clocks does almost nothing and you can drop down to 2500mhz level and lose almost no performance while cutting a ton of power.
This card is a strange one... I wish they would have cut down power consumption and had a 6500 non XT that ran just off the PCIe connector
Sounds like an interesting suggestion! But I'm not sure if I want to spend more time on that card now, there are some other cool things coming soon ;)
They have a 6400 that just used MB power.
Great review as usual Any way you can add X-Plane and MSFS2020 to your testing regime?
I'll think about it, but flight sims reaaaally don't appeal to me ;)
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This card is the new gt730. In a few years people will use it to get some display outputs, and pre-built companies will market them as "gaming" pcs.
Nah, this can genuinely game pretty well on 1080p medium. The GT 730 is a potato that can maybe run LoL
It’s a brand new GPU and a tiny 107mm2 die. They can produce 564 of these per wafer, and with 4GB miners won’t buy it. It isn’t a great GPU, but it is going to be in stock a ton more than any other GPU. I could have bought a 6500xt at $200 for the hour after launch. This is a hold over card so you can sell your old dying GPU or selling your newer GPU for a profit.
This is the Navi 24 die, it is originally for laptop only, they just pushed it super hard to work for desktops. That is the reason it is limited to only 4 PCIe lanes. Sure, you can buy a old GPU, but when will they die? Not be supported anymore? Regarding the RTX 3050 8GB… why do you think they put 8GB? Because miners will eat these up in the mining SKUs, what reason would Nvidia have to sell the GA106 die cut down 33-40%?
They are going to sell those GA106 dies for their CMP and laptops. How many 2060 12GB have you seen? Nearly 0 because it is a mining card.
I really hope it plays out like this and this ends up anywhere near it's MSRP. If it does, I think my conclusion that this might just be your best budget option (for now, given the rest of the market) will hold up.
A triple fan design for a card that pulls like 80-100w. They just want to sell you cans and extra metal.
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As always a great detailed review. This card doesn't seem right in the current market! Weird choice.
Actually it was the perfect card when it released for budget builds considering it ACTUALLY sold for around $200. Any GPU it was compared to when it came out was at least 50% more expensive. Within 1 month I was able to buy one for $170 USD. If anything this GPU helped to force down costs on the used market because that's the only place where you could price compete.
question , i'm building a budget rig for a friend , with an i3 10105F and a cheap gigabyte B560 board , this does support PCIE 4.0 ? that i3 is 11th gen right?
well I'm upgrading my motherboard to PCIe 4.0 and cpu to ryzen 5000 series, i currently have a rx 570 used as im on a budget i just picked up the rx 6500 xt oc for now it seems that its a little better as long as your using PCIe 4.0, got the card on boxing day for $140 CA this is temporary with be upgrading to 6700 in the near future. its exactly as she said its readily available and doesn't have to be permanent. all in all if you need a card on a budget i would say its worth it if your looking for something new and not used. you have the right to disagree
The 4gb is your new basic mid level gaming gpu so out with the 2GB AND something decent for your mid level gaming. For serious gaming you will need 8GB or more is great for hardcore gamers. So 4GB is good for your basic game play.
Mid-level (midrange) has been 6-8gb for some time now. 4gb has been obsolete ever since Watch Dogs 3 came out. A benchmark for this game using this card on Medium would mean it'll have to draw from the system memory. The only reason 4gb is now a thing again is because miners buy out the low-end 8gb models before any budget gamer could get their hands on them.
It can be true if you have 16 lanes / fast memory bandwidth.. Because then it can somehow survive when hitting the 4gb vram limit without too much penalty to FPS.
But then try using it on PCIE3 device. Every time you will reach the 4GB Vram limit (and you will reach), your FPS will drop drastically. While a similar card with more lanes / better bandwidth can still play the game.
@@Manganization exactly right, now gamers prefer 6gb or 8gb over a 4gb. If your games are not high demanding then it will be OK. If games are high demanding then the RX 6500XT is not for extreme gamers. Maybe another GPU that should have stayed off the product line.
Right about that a low end RX 400 series. This might be very embarrassing for AMD
And it stops them for releasing 2GB GPU
I paid $128.98 dollars total (includes tax and shipping) for the Gigabyte RX6500XT in Dec 2022. I'm hoping this was a fair price. I don't game a lot but I really wanted the DP port capability.
Sounds very fair tbh!
I usually watch all your videos but i think you missed the mark with this card's release. I bought a sapphire 6500xt at $199 and its a decent entry level card. At has some short comings and limitations but at $200 it will get you gaming and your not heavily invested in something that probably won't hold you for a few more years anyways.
The problem is that most retailers and other countries' retailers won't sell this for $200 exact. For $199 - $220 it's awesome. But here in my country where it's $300 to $350. It's not worth it.
Isolated like this it seems an okay GPU, however a RX 580/590 outperforms it while it's pretty much ancient right now... This really is a GPU one should only buy if you have a new system (PCIe 4.0!) & are really struggling to find anything else within your budget that's better than this hunk a dunk.
Yeah, it's not great, but there are some situations where it might be "just good enough" or the "least bad" option :(
580s are going for 400$ on ebay . I can buy this brand new for 230$ usd in stock .
@@AlistairMaxwell77 RX 580's (8gb) are available here for ~€300 might even be able to haggle on the used market for less than that... The 6500XT is available here for the same price 😅
"If you play this game competitively, you should consider buying a stronger card"
The reason this card exists right now is because cards are very difficult and expensive to come by. I'm sure some of the people who purchased this card on day one would rather have purchased a 6800XT or 3080, but can't find one, or they don't want to spend well over US$1000 to acquire one.
I've seen and read a number of reviews that are just blind to the fact that these cards are only meant as an in-between, meaning they're largely marketed towards people who have everything else, and just need a GPU to get their system going... *or* someone who needs to replace a damaged and out-of-warranty card and just can't do it with the current market conditions. Reviewers and viewers alike should consider this.
So your genius excuse for this piece of shit is that it's a hold over, inbetween card...people want 6800xt, so $650 msrp card but settle for this garbage for $250-300 and then buy another card in a year and you spent the same money as just getting a good card now...what a stupid idea
@@samgoff5289 It's adorable that you think I'm making excuses. Simply adorable.
People want 6800XTs and 3080s. People aren't gonna get them without dropping a down payment on a bloody car. So yes, this is absolutely an in-between. A card meant to get people's almost completed builds up and running after over a year of waiting.
Take your malice and direct it to the companies themselves for not putting out more cards, for not ensuring they're priced reasonably. I'm not the one you're mad at, and you would do well to remember that. Not everyone is privileged enough to have $1300 just laying around waiting to be spent on a stupid expansion card.
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How would you build a pc around with 6700xt ? Thx
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i dont think it is complete crap. If you can get your hands on one and its around msrp it is pretty ok. Like an esports card though not much more!!
Thanks for sharing
how would this car do just for a streaming pc? will not be running games on it.
Just bought this card (ASUS TUF Version)on Cyber Monday, $194.39 OTD but with an $80 Rebate. So at $114.39 OTD a great deal IMO, for my kids gaming PC.
For that money, absolutely!
How much will it be scalped for tho?
Haven't seen someone have to review a brand new card on medium/low setting.. at 1080p, make of that what you like..
Hello and thank you for the video. I have a suggestion, because the white font with the results really badly hurt the eyes.
Is it possible to avoid those really bright screens ?
Do you mean the numbers in the graphs?
@@TechTesters Yes. When it is really bright.
Thanks for this, I'm considering picking up an open box gigabyte 6500 xt from microcenter for $167, there's also an asrock 6500xt open box for $155
thank you !!!
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In the UK at least earlier on before it sold out 30mins ago it was £180 for a dual fan one. Couple that with a new pcie 4 capable cheap cpu and in this market it's a bargain. Of course if you have an old gpu or pcie 3 cpu then whatever nothing to see here. For one morning at least here a new budget system could of been specced out for 1080p decent settings at 60fps which in the current market is a OMG moment.
Yup! And Im guessing those 180 pounds dont really buy you anything actually better 2nd hand either right? It's still.a sad card, but it might still be OK for cases like that.
@@TechTesters
Yeah looking at a high street UK 2nd hand tech store called CEX the prices for any comparable gpu is more than the £180 you could have bought this for at Overclockers UK earlier on for the decent but cheapest variant. Normally this gpu would be all kinds of meh but in this market for that price brand new it made sense in a messed up way. Would go nicely with a cheap Intel 6 core cpu capable of pcie 4. What a crappy sad time it is for PC gaming right now when this gpu seems like a deal 😢. Well "seemed" like a deal anyway before they sold out. I'm guessing the next batch will be marked up as per usual.
If I may also add, Ryzen APUs also does not support PCIE 4.0. so beware of that as well.
You should have tested on PCIe gen 3, which is what most people use. The PCIe 4x4 hurts this card a lot. Other reviewers showing this card losing as much as 50% performance on PCIe 3 systems.
I knew that plenty of others were already looking into that. There's only a couple of days of testing possible before a launch. Nothing wrong with testing for people with a recent system or building a new one right?
so i have a 6500 and i can tell you this card is actually really good for a budget its not no 3080 with 240 fps but its not completely horrible i play apex,valorant, cod, and fortnite and all them go inbetween 80-120 fps so not bad
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14:08 Now beating an almost 3 year old (entry level) card (from their competitor) is a really sad compliment in my opinion.
Hahahaha. This made my day.
To make things worse, the RX 6500 XT even struggles to beat it's predecessors like the RX 5500 XT and RX 580.
Oh, I think Gigabyte really killed it with it's 3-fan design. The RX 6500 XT is a 2-fan max type of card.
So by AMD standards this is "budget" GPU that actually costs 250+$. A few days ago they released R7 5700X, 5600, 5500 (this is lower clocked 5600g without iGPU and PCIe 3.0 because it is Cezanne not Vermeer). So AMD just showed us their marketing about budget gaming setup = 250€ for GPU and 200€ for the cpu. I would rather stick with 3050 and 12100f and it would still be much better. Most stupidest move from AMD since they released Ryzen.
Hello all.
Everyone out there keeps telling us how bad this card is, how companies want to just make money from us giving us shitty products etc etc. I just wanted to ask this: For the average 1080p gamer that is not interested to video editing, recording or live streaming, would you suggest which card for the same price ? Every product somehow has its usefulness and after a small research I did seems like this is the perfect card for simple 1080p gaming on a budget. So, I kindly request everyone out there who has the knowledge to answer to what is the better, new card, I could buy for the same price and include it into a new pcie 4.0 build on a budget. Thank you all in advance.
I' never thought my previous graphics card, the 5600XT, would seem like a luxury item. Don't get me wrong, it was a very good card., but wow. As Chamberlain announced peace, AMD has now announced gaming in our time.
Any card bought 2-3 years ago looks like a luxury item and great deal at this point :D
@@TechTesters Very true. Heck, I bought a 6800 Nitro+ at 25% over MSRP and have had no regerts since mid Jan. last year. I sold the 5600xt and CPU and RAM to a local kid in mid August 2021. When he had to ask his mom to buy them, I took his lower offer. I hope he's having fun. I enjoyed my late nights gaming, even in the SVGA era of Silent Hunter 2, Battle Hawks 1942 and Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. #jaggies
Tbh considering the gpu market, this not a bad option for gamers on budget for mid level gaming. This is a very cheap card. So you cant expect much from it. I think calling it a failure is a bit harsh considering the price.
That it's never going to stay at
can you show gameplay as well when you are testing each games performance
i wonder what amd was smoking when they released this
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awesomely detailed review, i would say if this card would have performed atleast closer to 1660 or the super, it would have made sense and also only it costed cheaper that those, PC gaming is getting to its all time low daily, low budget gaming as it is completely dead.
Mooreslaw is doing 2 reviews - as AMD fanboy and trying to reach 1660ti performance and as Nvidia fanboy, trying to reach 1050ti performance. This is one of the best reviews on the internet.
Nice review
Thanks!
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do it graphic card Radeon™RX 6500 XT GAMING OC 4G it good with games or It is happening any problem such as drop frame , lags
its on sale on ebay get em before theyre gone
The RX 5500 XT came with 4 GB and 8 GB versions will this come in a 8 GB version?
I doubt it, with that memory bus it probably doesn't make any sense other than marketing purposes :-/
its amazing that you are comparing 6500xt with 6600xt...a card with double the price...
the price compeditor for 6500xt is gtx1650...and 6500xt performs better
1650 came out 3 years ago for 150€ so it is not equal competitor. Better competitor would be at least gtx 1650 super or better 1660 but that card is 3 years old too. Best competitor right now can be only new RTX 3050 for 250€. True, it is a bit more expensive but it came out nearly at the same time as 6500xt.
@@kinzie3915 1650 is equal in price and performance no matter how many years ago was released. rtx-3050 costs 400 in retail here. 6500xt costs 230 the same price as a 1650 and also 4gb memory.
@@VagelisMilonas oh right so 150€ GPU that came out 3 years ago and runs on PCIe 3.0 is "equal" to the 2 months old 200€ GPU that runs like a crap on PCIe 3.0 but the price is the same so you decided it is equal? Yeah maybe in your universe. 6500xt is about 10-30% faster when it runs on PCIe 4.0. PCIe not PCIe 3.0. 1650 super on PCIe 3.0 can be compared to the 6500xt on PCIe 4.0. And if years doesn't matter in your universe, so does your comment doesn't matter. AMD fanboy
@@kinzie3915 in my universe 1650 costs 230 in retail right now. 3 months ago was more expensive than 6500xt. it's not fanboysm when you cannot aford more than 250 for a card.
6500 xt is sold as a budget card and nothing more. so think better
It's already bad on your PCie4 tests, and awfully bad in PCIe3 that you didn't test, "thanks" to the stoopid idea of limiting the card to 4 pcie lanes, which wasn't seen since ages and makes absolutely no sense ...
But you're the only review to spot & praise the very nice heatsinks, backplate and thermals of the cards, the others were so upset they didn't look :)
I can get the ASUS Dual RX 6500 XT for CHF 169.-- at the moment. No so bad for the money. I would not game on this, but it is a nice card for a high end office PC.
So you are saying i should keep my 5500xt with 8Gb ram?
i get the 4gb thing cuz of the miners.. but all the other corner cuttings, and bandwidth issue with PCIe3 boards, wich most people that would buy a card like this, will probably have.. this is a bad take on a budget card...
i mean
And now wait for reasonable prices 😅
Good luck waiting forever
400 to 500 usd HAHAHAHHA
@@nanezferrer3565 i bought it already for 200$
I saw those at 249 at microcenter and on Newegg at 279
Under Evil Su, she took AMD and went full Intel/Nvidia.
RX 6500xt VS GTX 1650 Super Benchmark 🤫
Couldn’t get one, none for sale either 🥲
@@TechTesters There's actually a huge shortfall in the graphics card market right now.
In my opinion it is a decent card for budget gaming PC if it is at right price. AMD didn’t fail completely
Yeah, it's always about price tbh. At $100 this would be amazing, at $500 it's just terrible. Figuring it out when it makes sense will vary per region.
Nice video ! i will try to buy it when i have the chance . I want to do a Budget Build with i3 12100F :)
Was thinking about that, but I don't really have any cheap cases laying around atm. Maybe soon!
I`ll keep my RX580 4GB until there is anything that really makes sense in the low/mid segment
My Rx-580 8gb will spank that new card, most of the time. Did I forget, I bought for $179.00 US got 2 new games with it, this was in late 2018. Sorry your card is Not a good deal, and mine is 3 generations old.
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2 & 3-fan HSF models are LOL! This is a 100W laptop gpu. AIB's could slap-on the equivalent of a stock $5 Intel LGA 775 heatsink from an i3/i5 boxed processor and call it a day. But no.., because then they could jack the MSRP by $80-150.
Probably the only money they make on it tbh. But I've seen ok-ish 2-fan models sell for ~210-240 already. That's more than 100 eur below a 1650 :(
Leuke review!
Is it worth buying for gaming or not
Just bought one for my gaming pc 😄 good price for this situation is going on right now
Gigabyte board currently trending at 169.99. You can't beat that price if your only gonna game at 1080p. The environment was completely different at the beginning of the year. Still a good review but would be completely different if this review came out now. you will have to drop your setting to low in certain instances to hit that 60fps.
Like Uncle, like Niece.
Its finally on sale for 100 bucks ... that what its worth already!
AMD is genius. They made an ANTI MINING gpu. But surprisingly No one gets the point of this Card. Wake up everyone. Its a budget friendly GPU with new tech like ray tracing and fsr support. Finally budget gamers can buy a gpu with decent performance.
It can't really do raytracing though, minimum entry for that is still a 2060 (for 1080p) or better, this thing doesn't come close. If you need FSR for 1080p gaming to hit 60fps at already reduced settings that's not a good result either... This is a pretty heavily cut down GPU & it shows, can't even beat their own RX 580/590 nor is it useful as a display adapter.
On the topic of budget gaming, a lot of budget gamers have PCIe 3.0 systems as of right now. PCIe 3.0x4 absolutely SUCKS with this GPU.
Ray tracing on this? Don't even think about it tbh.
Should i upgrade my gtx 1650 to amd rx 6500 xt
Get a used gtx1070
9:10 x4 x16 soooo confusing, I'm sorry what????
Seems like a bad deal if you consider you can actually get a 1070 for that amount of money.
1070? For 350 euros in Europe? That would be a dream