Best Medium Van: 2018 Transit v Hiace v Trafic v iLoad v Transporter v Vito
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- 2018 Drive Commercial Car of the Year: Medium Vans
Medium vans try to find the middle ground, blending decent payload and budget-friendly running costs with decent dynamics and comfort.
We compare some of the best vans for hauling your business around town.
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Been driving the Transits since the 1960's all different models including minibus , they are the best.👍👍👍👍
I have a Vito,
A bit pricy but the engine is quite and smooth.
It’s my work and my holiday van too.
Would not consider of any other vans at this stage ….
small cargo space
I've driven all the vans a part of the Hiace and agree on 100% that Ford custom is the best van of all of them
Ma man, that's all you had to say,cheers I'm gonna buy me one, cheers
Compare new cars is not the life, you should compare the maintenance and repair costs also a few years later.
Although I agree with the result, there are so many points missed in this review. Right at the end you mention "The Ford has barn doors". Yes, the one you reviewed has, but its also available with a lift back. This also the case with the Hyundai, its available with barn doors (although you have to forgo the reverse camera). The Traffic also can choose either. Barn doors suit couriers, lift backs suit trades people who don't like getting wet whilst eating smoko on the back step. No to mention the lift back gives superior rear vision.
No mention is made of the super cool 3 stage heated seats in the Ford.
I agree the Hyundai is the best driving van of the lot, but no mention is made of the fact that the reason the back is smaller than the Ford is because its RWD which raises the floor. But this is also an advantage when taking heavy loads or just driving dynamics. Hyundai is also the only one with adjustable passenger seat.
No mention of the Renault and Ford being offered in two wheel base lengths. The Ford even having the option of a high roof in both lengths.
No mention of the fact that if you DO select the manual transmission in the Ford, its a seriously good one, with better shift quality than most cars.
No mention of how terrible the passenger seats are in the Ford.
You show the extended load through feature in the Ford but don't mention that its also in the Renault. In fact Renault takes it a step further and allows you to put the load through past the seat into the passenger foot well. The Renault "desk" is also a step better than the Ford with the whole centre seat folding down with a swivel table.
Worth also noting that Ford offers the Transit Custom with a more powerful output engine in Europe. Strange we get the mid level output considering the Australian environment.
No mention of the fact that only the Renault and Ford have a sealed cargo barrier. Once you have had one of these, there is no way you would ever own a van without one. Again though Renault does a better job than Ford by putting in a much wider window. The others that don't include them should be ashamed.
No mention is made of warranties or service intervals. I assume this would be very important to a business owner. Ford is easily the best with 5 years Unlimited KMs and12month/30,000km service intervals. Renault has the same service intervals, but only a 3 year warranty. Hyundai doesn't match its passenger car warranties with 5 years and only 160,000km.
The Ford is an easy winner, but should have pinched those couple of ideas from Renault (Extended load through, wide bulkhead window and fold down centre seat). The Hyundai is also a good choice if you want/need the most powerful engine, like RWD and can live without the Ford features.
Ford also allows you to order the Van in 100 different Colours!
The Merc and VW don't don't anything particularly well and cost heaps. Both a D-.
The Toyota is a sick joke, even if it does last forever, in every single other way is crap. No life is worth risking in that death trap, I can't believe its legal.
Hey zoltrix, you have clearly done your research as I have too. We definitely share the same opinion on the hiace. Incredible to think that people still buy them, only reason I can think of is that they simply don’t try other products on the market, frightening considering the investment. Meanwhile I’m waiting for my brand new Ford transit custom 340L to arrive. Can’t wait :) what do you drive?
I appreciate the in depth details.
The transit really drives like a sportcar :P It is great.
I just got rid of my 2014 dsg t5 transporter and got a traffic formula edition.
Vito has the best and most reliable auto box available and fantastic to drive with exceptional load carrying ability. Vw is close 2nd. Rest are lightweight vans with inferior steel body panels. Ask any panel beater which manufacturers use the best quality steel for their body panels. This guy is full of it!
@Master Yoshi Bulls*it. have you seen an I-Load with a mild dent? it crumples like tin foil.
Funny you say this because my boss has worked in the delivery business for decades and has just warned me off the Vito stating they are Rust Buckets
@@killabuddha88 think he may be mixing up the models. The old sprinter which shared the body with VW was a rust bucket as it wasn't galvanised. Not the vito w447 or w639. The w638 was a rust bucket, as every other van on the market then, with the exception of the vw transporter. So your boss must really be reminiscing or else he's worked for some terrible firms.
@@TyronePatOne Nope, he was definitely referring to the Vito w639. We work on an Amazon depot where we around 120 vans go through a day. I see 4-5 of these models every day and Mercedes is a reliable make in my mind so I was going to opt for one of them, but now I'm no so sure. It even tells you this model has rust issues on the Parkers Guide
@@killabuddha88 what van in the w639 era has not got rust issues? Everything manufacturered is engineered with obsolescence.
Are the transit as good as the high ACE engine wise cause They are hiace has a really really good Engine what will never let you down can the Ford Transit custom do the same
I have looked at all the specs on all these vans, and had to settle for the Transit Custom for my antenna installation business. It was the only Van that had the full safety features of a high end sedan, and still put on the road with the Optional Automatic transmission, Integrated Sat Nav, Rhyno Ladder racks, tow pack, twin side doors, Tech Pack and custom colour for UNDER $50,000! Only down side is the 5 month wait to get my specific requirements to Australia.
The fuel economy is shit.
The Trafic has some really clever features you guys didn't even mention. Renault and Ford have Bulkhead as standard, Hyundai can't even order and VW only on custom order. Makes a massive difference inside the cabin! Ford AUS doesn't bring in the LED head lamps or the different engines Europe gets. I would buy a Transit Custom Sport with 125kw next week, but I struggle with the old Halogen Headlamps and the 96kw engine.
Get the 96KW engine chip tuned, all it is is the 125kw engine just detuned
Agree, Australia should have the top spec engine. Also agree the halogen headlights seem a little bit of a joke without the DRLs. However, the Australian spec is VERY highly specced compared to the base strippers in Europe. Airbags are optional over there, along with Sync 3, heated seats etc. We however miss out on heated and folding mirrors and heated windscreen options, which are rather nice in Melbourne winter.
@@joesnelling8103 Warranty issues.
Glad you guys did this comparison, vans like these are so bloody useful it is ridiculous, frankly. If they have curtains in the back windows though, run away as fast as you can, and don’t look behind you...
No worries!
Vito all the way so powerful
Not a mention that Vito has twin sliding doors as standard
That, as so many other options, are totally dependent on market and that's valid for all brands. ;-)
Example in most EU, lap belts are a long gone memory and double doors are optional.
Wonder how much ford pays you
Nothing :)
There is no need, Transit Customs are an incredibly well thought piece of machinery.
Just buy the Transit.
Toyota Hiace is my best
Clearly a Ford commercial. Hope you got some good money it guys. Well done.
I wish I could get one of these in the us
good old transit,break timing chain and rockers post and shafts ,ask the mechanics who work on the tradegy transit,lol,should ask which engine will do half a mill ks without blow up,
We drive a 2016 Transit 2.2 TDci with 125HP and it has 160.000 miles on it now. Only problem we had was the fifth injector that gets clocked up with particles in the exhaust system. That's all that had to be replaced around 100.000 miles.
Why do they keep calling the vans cars?
In Europe we have an Toyota ProAce
I would go for the traffic.
Sssshh! Don't say that, we're in a Ford Transit promotion video. LOL ;-)
The latest model of the Transit, so "latest" that hardly made to the test! (laugh), even comes with good tie downs, double mirrors... (8:10). Well my "old" 2007 Renault Trafic has double mirrors. So as the ENTIRE line of Trafic at least since 2001. Should I also mention the tie downs?! ;-)
At least the guys who made the video should try to be more "discreet". LOL 😂
Cheers
Sssh! Don't say that, we're in a Ford Transit promotion video. LOL ;-)
They even mention the new Transit, so new that almost didn't make to the test. Has good tie downs and double mirrors, 8:10.
Well the Trafic just has double mirrors since 2001... Should I mention the better tie downs. Yeah no need. LOL :-)
Cheers
Yet the Toyota will still be going whilst the rest are in the mechanics or scrapped. There's a reason why it hasn't been updated in a while, because it works. Simplistic is best.
480000km oh what a feeling toyota 👌. Renault would be the best new van here. It's the most economical, 30000km services and a fuel miser.
Hello! Could you please make same video but vs passengers Van!
My LDV G10 is not bad and it is cheaper than these cars. 13 months and it is already 52000 kms. Would like to drive it 3 years more and change a Ute.
The new vito sux I have a 2005 115 cdi better has also its 110 kw if you want a good vito get a used 122 CDI 165 KW SHITS ON THE NEW ONES
Who would be crazy enough to drive the vans with no full bulkhead! In a crash the driver gets killed by his own cargo! It makes the airbags a bit redundant.
Yeah I noticed as well and don't understand it. 1000kg moving forward in a crash will "feel" between 10-50x the weight or something?
FORD MUST HAVE PAID ENOUGH !!!
TheEno78 Transit vans aren’t too bad, they can do the job asked of them, but I will definitely concede they can go boom quite spectacularly. But then again, so can most of the competitors here.
FORDS are not reliable the FORD itself is a very bad company. very bad customer relations. They basically tell you to F*** off if there is anything wrong with the vehicle. Warranty is not worth the paper its written on. I am almost certain these guys were somehow paid for this so called review (paid commercial).
Lol, what do you drive then? It cracks me up how upset people get that Ford are often the best in class, deal with it pal.
ASIC las month issued a $10 000 000.00 fine to FORD for cheating their customers. it is now a fact that FORD cheated their customers. don't forget Holden either. These companies took tax payers money (billions of dollars over the years) and betrayed australians. I wonder how you deal with that pal.
Don't need to watch some ozzy telling me whats the best van its a custom tranzit job done👍
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well, don't.
VW💪
I rather take the traffic or the transporters
E-B-M-M R-L two nails a peace of board u got a ford
Transporter is the best by miles no competition, the transporter will hold its money second hand no matter how old it gets the rest of the vans will be used by builders run into the ground then scrapped!!
You criticised the German van witch r the best and not the crap lucking Toyota an Hyundai ….
ford transit is better than all
Not very good at this are you guys 👎 the traffic has under storage + reversing camera & also the better van😜
Vw transporter 180 hp and the engine tdi is the best
I really hope that wasnt in order.
The renault has everything better than the ford besides automatic and maybe infotainment...
1.6l engine in this type of vehicle is completely out of place, the durability will be horrible, it is much more strained than a larger capacity engine. Not to mention the horrible emissions. Also the usability seems to be worse (no slide through for long items, etc.)
Mgoblagulkablong clearly you have no idea.
The twin turbo 1.6 is more powerful than the hiace and ford transit, also way more torque and down low useable power, it has no issues in driving it. Forget about what you think you know about engines, because your wrong. Plus the trafic has a longer slide theough than all the others that goes all tge way to the front foot well not just under the seat.
What are you even talking about, I never said anything about power delivery or driving feel (btw in the video they said it has turbo lag). I was talking about the durability of the engine. Learn how to read.
Have a read of our in-depth review the Trafic got a score of 8/10 just behind the Transit's 8.5.
www.drive.com.au/car-of-the-year/best-medium-van-finalist-renault-trafic-short-wheelbase-118381.html?trackLink=articleResults2Reviews
Mgoblagulkablong everything is going smaller, you said its out of place, its taking the lead. All the utes are going to 2 litre engine with 3.5 tonne towing. This van is 1600kg, seems fitting. Had one for 8 months and was a beautiful car. The only time you notice turbo lag is if your trying to race boy change gears, otherwise it trumps others. And lets be honeat, no ones draging people in vans on a daily basis.
I didnt get a ford because ford cant be trusted, all sorts or warranty issues they have when trying to deal with problems, hence why they got a 10 million dollar fine the other month
It’s all about Ford Transit, but how about to be more specific of engine it self? All vans are comes with turbo diesel and only Hiace is a petrol, which is cost less to maintain and repair. Bloody particular filter is a big problems if you not a drive a lot. Have a think twice before buy a diesel, it’s good for a few years when it’s new but the problems come later. Europe has start to thinking now to convert diesel to petrol, less problems, less pollution, less maintenance. Good luck to anyone who buy a diesel.
Even in Europe, all vans are diesel. Probably why the Ford is a good deal with a 5 year warranty. If you run a business, you should be trading in every 5 years anyway if you want to stay reliable and professional looking. Ford doesn't use a particulate filter, it uses Ad-blu.
When the talk of banning diesel comes up, don't for a second think it's because of none of the so called problems you mentioned. The "propaganda" has been working quite well judging by this kind of comments. ;-)
The oil market as been unbalanced in Europe for quite awhile. Years ago diesel sales simply "exploded". From small cars all the way up to heavy trucks.
Than comes another major detail, in more recent years USA woke up for diesel as never before. That unbalanced international oil market even more. Suddenly there's a huge need for diesel...
How do we balance it? Well, it's simple, sell more gas cars... People should think why are some governments interested in selling vehicles that consume more of a product (gas) that's also more expensive to the end consumer!!! ;-)
Oh yes, pollution... right! cynical LOL :-)
Maintenance: Diesel as less maintenance and last longer than the equivalent gas. Natural aspirated engines are becoming a dying breed. So both have turbos, the main head ache on both types. Although the turbo in a diesel last longer (lower temp, etc.).
Many direct injection gas nowadays comes with an additional compressor, or turbo packs. Increasing the complexity and problems exponentially. Clogged intakes in DI gas is an unfortunate reality with very low mileages on the clock.
But on the other hand manufacturers tend to make quite high revenues on "maintenance". Reason why they up sell maintenance packs like crazy. Make it cheap in China, sell both the product and the maintenance for a high price in Europe. ;-)
I do miss the very few and rare moments, from when I was in the auto industry, where engineering could talk louder than Eco(nomics) department. ;-)
Cheers
Get your head out of the clouds vic. unless something drastic happens diesel is the only engine most people would consider for a van. Petrol just makes no sense for a van hence non of the European manufacturers offer it, high fuel consumption, not enough low end torque to name two of the problems. With the advent of adblue a lot of the nasties that come out of a diesel are neutralised
Renault trafic is no 1
Not ford
Ajay Joshi compare gearboxes ford wins
Renault Traffic = Nissan NV300
I am not a van expert but video seems biased in favour towards the Ford transit. Feels like Ford sponsored them.
It will RUST.
Ford Transit is made in Turkey, and is shit
Van Buy Transit, to breakdown
is OhShit
Absolute lunatics who I hope are not taken seriously. Vw DSG lags and not up to the job!!! Obviously got his notes mixed up with the other reviews. Not mentioning Mercedes auto box slickness is added proof these guys are paid to shoot a commercial.
Two of the presenters mentioned the DSG sucks? What were you listening to?
“Laggy”DSG gearboxes is not a new opinion. While I do prefer their concept for economy reasons in my experience they do tend to be a little delayed especially at low speeds, once your on the highway then there’s nothing better but for driving around town nothing can compare to the smoothness of a torque converter transmission.
Toyota needs to bring the Proace to Australia asap.
You got a lot wrong in this video and that transit is a p.o.s
They are cheaply built and don’t last long they have a bad reputation here in the uk for breakdowns and door hinge failiure
We can also see you’ve been payed to push the transit sales up so a thumbs down from me you sell outs
Robert that wouldn’t explain why they are the best selling van in the uk. I have only heard good things from the people that own them. They certainly can not be described as cheaply built unless comparing them to a rolls Royce.
Agreed!
@@jordang8208 so how would you rate them against a transporter ,don’t tell me let me guess “equal
It is the best selling van because they are cheaply made and pushed out the factory doors
And cheaper than a vw doesn’t mean they are better dumb dumb won’t last as long
How many mk5 transits out there compared to a T4 transporter
But like I said your a sell out to push the transit
Shame on you
Comparing vans with bulkheads to those without is hardly a fair basis to test refinement.
Ford 👍😍
I drive an 09 Toyota Hiace and it hasnt missed a beat. I actually enjoy sitting up and over the wheels, I find it easier to park and definitely a tighter turning circle. Ive put drawers and a bed in the back, we both sleep in the back and the space is unbelieveably generous! We have too much room.I have taken the van off road, unsealed roads and to Northern QLD and back and it just keeps going. However, I enjoy a manual gearbox but would be great to get cruise control for those longer trips.
Not sure what I'll upgrade too. Something with 4wd would be handy. Is the Transit Custom 4wd?
Currently and recently a commercial driver of 2 of these vans, the renault and the vito.
The quality of the vito just blows the trafic out of the park.
If the audio system of the trafic wouldn't be as decent as it is, I'd probably be insane from the ground/wheel noise. It literally feels like you are driving inside of a tin can in comparison to the vito.
The vito is a much better driving car without a load, but with a decent load of about 1 ton it gets pretty sluggish, though there is still way more power delivered then in the case of the trafic.
The trafic doesn't seem to care as much about the load, is pretty consistent in that regard.
My biggest gripe with the trafic is the dead zone, it's practically impossible to see anything if they come into your dead zone on the inside during a turn towards your passanger side (there seems to be a workaround by using the "wide view" passenger mirror, but I've yet to experiment it since I just tend to avoid those bends entirely after almost crashing into another car)
Overall a pretty decent review though, hope you'll come back to them.
I don’t know why anybody would want a HiAce. The things are absolute death traps!
The traffic does the job better with a more economical engine that is also quieter and a more plush ride the Renault also has the bulk head lift up hatch and has more tie down points it also comes in at a better price point. It may have less frills but this in turn will end up being the long term more reliable option for most tradesmen and delivery drivers. the only sacrifice is it only comes in a manual which is nothing to worry as the gear box and clutch is fantastic
4:10 the *Hilux*
Asian Elijah ikr I was just about to say it in the comments but I suddenly saw urs 👍
That was a ford Advert , bunch of wankers !!! So for price and quality who won ???
Nissan needs to bring the NV350 Caravan and the NV200 Vanette.
You right with first choice yes Ford 1st then pick Trafic because it looks best all round. ILoad needs upgrading, my brother has one for work and he likes it but wish it would come blind spot camera near back doors. Although lap belt should be illegal. If you think that a problem Toyota should be put out pasture to work on engine/transmission is nightmare not mention rest of van. Both VW and Mercedes r overpriced half tempted vans. Great work on vid👍
Thanks Jamie :)
Vw had to be ontop and the transit 2nd
You can allways rely on a transit ! All the others are just expensive problematic when they go wrong
FWD vans are crap
I just need something to take my bikes in :D
I hate new vans before the hate comments roll in I will explain why
So I have had alot of tippers and trucks such as ivecos transits and renos all the old ones where solid work horses that could graft got a new transit was decent then a back light bulb went no biggie right just change it? it happens all the time fitted a new one it didnt work then spoke to a mechanic and he said you needed a little tuning computer to programme the bulb in got rid of that right away
Trafic = NV300 。 ProAce = Expert/Traveller / Jumpy
Hiace old but so reliable comfy unless jabba the hut
The VW is the class leader in Europe.. the previous Renault tragic wasnt that good at all.. the Toyota is just a joke.. the Merc is way to expensive.. and the transit looks like a pig! 😏
How could the trafic be bad if it is the best selling Van in Europe for the last 20 years and also they are not reviewing the old model here are they. Head in the game mate
that man has the average aussie haircut
Whats the difference between the hiace and the proace?
Proace is a piece of shit citroen with toyota badges, hiace is a proper toyota.
FORD? would not bye one. If the engine & running gear is anything like the ford ranger they would be a big piece of
crap. I work for a company that has 6 rangers & they all are in the at the dealers trying to get problems fixed week
after week. Ford are poor with their warranty. I would never deal with FORD.
RIP utes
All of those features you mention on the transit are all optional extras here in the UK
You find most vehicles are well specced in Australia, its a case that the Market is smaller, its far away, and it probably works out cheaper to have less trim levels.
I enjoyed this Video. In the UK the Ford Transit Is a best selling Van and I particularly like the Facelifted Model Including the Sync 3 Infotainment System
shame transit dont bother with security on there vans
You can break into the traffic and start it with a fried sausage
Haven't done your research very well. Traffic is no.1 also the the traffic can have barn doors and many other things to configure it.
THATS ME AND MY FRIENDS
Okay go on
i use a transit custom as a work van, its a quite terrible van, the cluch is weak, the van handles very poor in corners, too high center mass point, the gas pedal+shifts work together terrible , it tends to jerk. the 2 gear is too weak, the hill break stayed on in 2 vans already, interior of the previous model is totally rediculous, the airconditioner start to smell like wet dog pretty fast, lots of annoying stuff
Much prefer a Chevrolet Express
Cody Soper but that’s a full size van. With room not far off the Mercedes.
Clayton I know lol, I'm just shitposting.
We're getting more of these "city" vans now and I have to say they rideand drive a lot better than the older mini-vans, which I guess would be the US's equivalent for mid-size vans
Being with the Vito 109CDI 1.6L, manual, 60k km, 16/205 Michelin, been serving me well and good enough for city driving.
Toyota looks hedius
Australia has the eastern version. That looks way smaller as the european version.
Hiace 300 on Sale to 2019
You should see the Toyota Proace we have in the UK, it's made in a joint venture with Peugeot and Citroen and compares well with the competition.
Everyone knows deep down the toyota and hyundai are actually gonna last without constant major issues
The" traffique" 😂😂😂😂. Its Traficc.