2019 Best Commercial Van Comparison Test
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Commercial vans are a vital part of our transport and business ecosystems, but which one is best for you? And which one takes out carsales Best Commercial Van Award.
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00:00 Intro
01:11 Payload and Towing
02:32 Cabin Ergonomics and Safety
03:56 Technology and connectivity
05:31 On-road performance
07:47 Verdict
This comparison focuses purely on medium vans - those with a gross vehicle mass of between 2.5 and 3.5 tonnes - which can all be driven on a regular car licence.
Our field includes two of the segment's big hitters - the top-selling Toyota HiAce and its runner up, the Hyundai iLoad - which together account for roughly half of the medium van sales in Australia.
In fact, for this test we've secured one of the first examples of Toyota's next-generation HiAce, the model representing the first changing of the guard for the nameplate in 15 years.
Then we have three well-established contenders in Ford's Transit Custom, Renault's Trafic and Volkswagen's Transporter, which all attract similar market shares, plus the latest new entrant to the category, Peugeot's Expert.
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I like toyota hiace the most. But not tall enough. Is the engine for ford transit very reliable? Someone told me, it's a terrible. Could you please give advise. Thank you
2024 update please
I bought the 2019 transit 340l and now done 16000km. Absolutely love it. As a carpenter it does everything I need it to do and is a pleasure to drive. Will do my own owner video soon.
I just bought the 340 s but have to wait 2 months as its a special order. Its my 3rd one love them best van ever
Lets be real here. did you expect to buy a new car and NOT love it? There was never going to be a scenario where you picked the car you hated the most.
and in terms of reliability, 16000 km is the same as never having been driven. You and I should resume this discussion about how you "love" your transit when it hits 400 000 km.
1- How comfortable to sit on each sest for long rides?
2- How is the viewing angles, rear view and mirror views?
3- How high is the highest seating position in all of them?
Before you choose the top winner , you must show all of them to us in each individual category and rank all of them. And at the latest you must show the general winner and rank the others too!
About 10 people, office, technology, brand name.. And you have produced only 9 minutes video for such a large topic! Less than 2 minutes of commentary on each car! Just not enogh!
DISLIKED.
It is a great video thanks for the great information and well delivered. This is exactly what I was looking for.
Found your channel interesting to watch. Good Luck with the upcoming update. This channel is really very informative and effective.
Found the bot!
Show.
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Good test, thank you. Will you do the same test this year including Benz Vito top model 119 please :). Thanks
Amazing works.
How did you get a resale value from two new models, HiAce and the Peugeot? How did you compare performance without mentioning different powertrain options in the HiAce and the VW? Why did you not mention cargo space at all in the HiAce? This was not a review, it was a Ford advertisement.
Exactly what I thought , and don't understand me wrong .. I drive ford myself and it's very good van but only because vw it's little out of my budget .
...Atleast Ford's marketing it's working better than competition 😂
Na, The Toyota and VW both look disgusting both inside and out. The Ford is a much better performance van and it looks much better inside and in the back. You just don’t like Ford!
GO FORD!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the great review from the UK. Keep changing my mind on which van to buy in a year or two…. My current 2009 expert has been extremely reliable… just want something which is a bit more comfortable on longer journeys next and has more refinement in the cabin!
You need to do another video like this for 2021
The biggest van is a traffic. You can put palette of plasterboard in there. The space in the van and what you can carry is a number one question for traders like me. Kitchen and bathroom fitter
I just don't like automatics but I like the Ford and Vw. That Peugeots growing on me though ahah
Perfect mate 👌
Hi Sir. How's the front suspension of the Hiace Sir? Is it still heavy duty? As it is now a mcpherson strut unlike before it was a double wishbone. I'm thinking of buying this or the older version.
How can any of these be worth $40k+? Just a steel box on wheels with a lot of the development costs having been done years ago, also many of the components being used across each manufacturer's range.
Realistically, they should be about $25K if even that .
Bob Marshall too many hands in the pie , we not in Asia
Bob Marshall. I suspect you’re not in Australia, a country where a top spec BMW 7 series costs 400,000$ vs the typical £150,000 or 180,000$ in the UK or the US.
@@motosnape I think he's right though. If a Sport Automatic with Safety Pack can be $25k DRIVEAWAY. Then surely these relatively basic vans can 30K and under.
Because these are marketed as commercial vehicles. People don't want vans, they need them. Plus anything business related gets charged more, including utilities. Not easy starting out as a small business owner.
@V M can't blame the criminal underworld for this one mate
The Peugeot is the best by a fair margin. Drives like a car, and lots of comfort and practicality in the cabin. Trafic is great too but just too unsafe. Like the Ford, but build quality not as good as the Peugeot.
they should ask a mechanic which one to choose
They would all say a hiace
Didn't mention the biggest ommission in the new hiace no bench seat.
Toyota hiace the best of the best 👍
Ford certainly displayed clever thinking with side mounted tie points offering a flat floor surface for stability. Having load/boxes sitting at an angle with D-hooks piercing through the packaging isn't the best way to transport goods. That might even damage any blown up camping mattress laid down on the floor.
What no one mentions is that here in the UK Ford's are easy to steal / break into, & so insurance costs are higher than the other models.
Love the Hiace hope they sell it in the UK. Rather have the Hiace than the Proace which is a rebadged Peugeot Expert. If they don't import it than i think you have to import it yourself
I could have told you that i bought the chrome blue sport and its the nuts
Forgot to mention the cooler under the middle seat for your smoko in the expert
A pillar grab handles are great for smashing your head against in the event of an accident.
if your head reaches all the way to the handle even thought you are wearing a seatbelt, then you were not going to survive regardless if the handle exists or not. So might as well have the handle.
Toyota will be still driving in 10 -15 years time
Plus the resale and reliability
Yep!
My toyota broke after 3 month, need transmision repair
@@muhammaddanu6471 You dont know how to drive
@@mihajlorajkov4908 i can drive,
it turns out my toyota fortuner and all 2016-2019 production got a recall, im just saying the reliability is bs.
And now, just yesterday, its got recall again for oilpump issue, wtf toyota?
I is think you’ll find the hilux/hiace are most durable. Not the tricked up ones the simple ones. The ‘workmate’ is by far the most reliable car I have ever driven. And I know van guys who say the same thing about the Hiace.
Don't know about Australia, but in europe the transit custom with automatic gearbox has a ridiculous low towing capacity. Where other vans are allowed to tow 2000 or 2500kg the Ford's max is +-1200kg (2600pounds)
sprinter 👌😜
I could have told you this at the beginning it outsells the others 3 to one
Transit custom great van👍
In my work, i drive a 2019 fiat talento. Its basicaly a rebadged renault traffic. 1.6cc diesel engine. Its a small engine, but it runs perfectly. Its really strong up hill. I just dont like the back passengers windows.. that plastic peg breaks so easily
Toyota Hiace forever, got 2003 toyota Hiace done 340,000kms on the clock and never ever had a single issue rather than replacing Radiator. Its my daily Van and im a plumber got heavy tools on board with me and every day i drive minimum 100kms. Just bought brand new Hiace and will be arrive end of January 2023. Spend abit more and buy your self a toyota Hiace trust me it will last you forever
I’d still have the Vw
Need to mention the hiace comes in a 207kw v6 petrol version tho
Great fuel economy for business haha
My personal score list, Ford and Toyota deserved first place!
1 Ford
1 Toyota
3 Peugeot
4 Hyundai
5 Renault
6 Volkswagen
ford agriculture Agree
Why didn’t you test the Vito?
Mate you forgot to mention about the Ford Vans about their seats, for me it’s crap, as we cannot “lean back the car seats”....because isn’t enough space between the seats 💺 and the cargo barrier, it’s has no space, to do so!??
The cargo wall it’s glued with the seats 💺, looks like!
It’s a huge problem for those w is going to be on the roads all day, seating in 90 Degrees(L) throughout the bloody days!
its not glued just a bunch of bolts
Don't get stuck on that Toyota reliability those days are gone open your eyes sheep
Drove it and then went got the new hiace , purely for reliably reasons
Samuel Lamont has it been a good choice after 2 months? Thanks
Oliver Lopez yes mate , worth the money , nice a quiet aswell
I Jamaica Hiace is the best manual transmission is the best
Will the Hyundai become like the old Hiace where they sell it for many years
Where the Mercedes?
Stuck in 2010!
Broken down somewhere
They should all be tested buy the people that actually use them like tradies etc it would be a much more true result
Transit is the best from trades men point of view
The transits are absolute shite. Majority of tradies, couriers, and delivery drivers pick the hiace it’s been the best selling van for over 20 years for a reason.
The first place already everyone knows..
T H...
Toyota Hiace..
That traffic is old model. Replaced by the Peugeot model now. Smaller and bad cup holders
Where are the markings?
How close was second?
Was there a hidden criteria?
Where was the SAIC van? It is selling like hotcakes
SHUT UP
I see barely any SAIC vans in the UK
Just ordered the winner, the Ford Transit Custom!
Unlucky
@@Bdavk Meaning?
You will love it well done i bought a new sport van and i love it
@@jasonwindebank5455 Yes I had it since Jan and apart from teething problems I am loving it. Does yours have the semi auto parking assist? I didn't order it but it came with it.
@@Neil-Aspinall what were the teething problems?
Every single van here is a Winner.
Ford have done slightly more homework Ergonomically.
Whats the difference between the hiace and the proace?
Proace is a rebadged Peugeot Expert for the European market Hiace is its own vehicle for Asian and Oceanian markets
Which is second ☺️
I drove vans all my life and trust me when I tell you than when it comes to vans there are only a couple of things that matter , firstly you don`t want a front wheel drive ( they suck ) and the second thing if you can is to try to avoid automatics ( they also suck ) also consider a DIESEL perhaps
According to your experience, which one would be the best?
I like vw and expert for their performance, almost 15 km per liter of diesel in Mexico.
Regards
Front wheel drive has better traction than in unladen rear wheel drive.
What’s wrong with front wheel drive
@@ian9toes More fragile. Rear wheel drive vehicles in general have a more robust suspension setup, and is also less wear on the tyres.
However in my experience, rwd vans get stuck much easier in muddy terrains vs fwd.
Rear wheel drive won't be your best friend in winter in cold climates, FWD or AWD would be safer.
I know a guy who has a roof business and has 6 transit customs, 1 lost power on motorway, 3 of them also had inector problems and sensor issues
As an American this makes me jealous
Having driven nearly every van on the planet ford transit is by far the best to drive end off
I've tested all of them and no the Ford Transit is just terrible. The Mercedes Sprinter 4×4 is by far the best van out there.
Stephane Moisan a Sprinter Van is a totally different vehicle compared to these smaller ones
@@rockybear702 take a look next time you are on motorway or city 6 transits to every other van .simple hard to beat .Mercedes is expensive for parts and servicing .I'm a ex transport manager had both types ended up just transits better all rounded period.
funny how vans in general are a lot more smaller than 10 years ago!
because of safety and crash tests the cabin area and front have taken more space from the rear load area
1:11 Payload and towing. Did I miss the towing specs?
Lots of opinion, very little specs.
I’d like to know at least gross weights.
Towing capacity was displayed on each
Unfortunately the Ford will depreciate the most owing to it not being reliable past the 100km mark and more rust than other vans.But you can't compare brand new vans for those qualities.
The rust issue has been addressed
I own one would buy anything else best seating position to tried them all ever van hurst my back
Go FORD
i like peugeot and Mitsubishi canter Fuso van
Put a ton on and the hiace will roars.
what?? hyundai starex look big, but cargo capacity just only 4.4m3. almost the same as small van like nv200/belingo
you can have a ford or you can have a business the choice is yours
Sponsored by ford?
chuckalegover yes drove them all and still ordered hiace
Fix Or Repair Daily
Toyota are great cars but generally overhyped, other car models have really improved on their "reliability" which is pretty much subjective.
Wanted to order the 2019 340 s transit custom but with 2 side doors and in Magnetic colour have to wait 5 months its a special order but Ford says on the website these are your colour options no mention of a special or preorder till you call a dealer I had a flash back to 1920 when the only colour you could buy in the model t was black now in 2019 any colour as long as its White.
Poor form by Ford Australia 🇦🇺
I think what you get with hyundai is the guarantee that one day day it won't break down with 1500$ repair cost
iload old engine tech commonrail. In my country its name hyundai h1 with 1500ppm sulphur contain (low grade diesel 0.38$/L). Still going over 500.000km just give pre fuel filter. Change oil and fuel filter every 5000km and still strong sometimes driver mix full tank lowgrade diesel with 2ltr gasoline+150ml 2cycl oil. its feel 15-20% power increase at low rpm.
And sparepart are cheap. Just salesmarketing "T" poisioning every people in my country they told if iload/other brand spare part cost 3-5time more expensive. And just "T" brand have super realibility.
Info hiace 2.5(2kd-ftv 101ps 0-100 arround 18-20second) more super slower than h1(d4cb 170ps 11-12second).
I bought a new reno trafic in 2019. I've called road side assist 4 times. Absolute garage.
@V M I've serviced it every 15k, which is twice as much as the recommended intervals. All the issues are electrical. How do electrical issues make me a "poor owner"? The van is still under warranty, so they always fix it, but I will trade it in for something else as soon as the warrenty runs out.
Where's the vito mercedes?
my dad's Brother has a ford transit custom but bigger
Cool
Transit custom is to soft to be a work van, nothing but trouble, is it even a van?
Tell that to the UK. The top selling van by far.
Hiace or walking soon with Europe computer and sensors problems
Hiace end of discussion
id take a kia pregio over any of these vans and it would likely last the longest
yea but which one offers the maximum m^3 ? i know each van comes in different sizes. So, which one has the option with the largest volume for cargo ? also ford is unreliable.
if the reviews are coming from an English-speaking country than there is no way any other brand comes on top other than ford no matter if other brands are studded with diamonds.
There is no bias in Australia, you make a good vehicle for us and we'll buy it. Ford probably deserved the best review but I'll stay with Toyota.
Ford will give issues. Toyota has proven reliabilty, great safety and power. You guys got this wrong
This toyota is basically the exact same the Peugeot and Citroën alike
@@thomaswalsh7033 in Europe not in Australia.
Toyota 👑
Hice is the best
Fiat?
Mercedes Vito?
Have Ford. No no no to Ford Transit 150 000 is dead. Not reable. How much for 1 on the list
I wonder why the winning van (ford) is the only one in dark color and the rest are white
Because it's a rebel and cool!
When all the other vans break down I'll give you a friendly wave when i drive past in the hiace.
@Yule Calma owned both. t5 is not smashing any hiace I can assure you.
vw is an excellent performer, but when it comes to reliability, HiAce cannot be beat.
@Yule Calma I'm not here to convince you, ask around do the research yourself I'm not a car salesman i just see all the others break down while I'm still on the road
You can break into this generation of ford transit with a set of pipe pliers in 20 seconds flat. In the U.K. if your a trades man you can expect you van to be attacked. My old Mercedes Vito had the side door bent in half. If you own a transit in the U.K. you will have to get after market locks fitted. Any way I just got a new transporter on lease and am very happy with it. Had the option for the ford but the security is dog shit!
Ford puma was the worst engine with many reliability issues..
LimoZina How has that got to do with anything in the video
Where is Mercedes-Benz?
Definitely not the Ford after all the wet cam belts failing, water pumps catching fire and engine seizures though out the range. VW every day.
Vw has mature engine problems as well, especially T5, T6, T6.1.
EN iyisi tofaş
😂😂😂😂. Tofaş'ın commercial VANi var mı?
No Vito
Not for this comparison unfortunately, we couldn’t source one from Benz
Strong Blue Oval bias here & yes , it really looks like a Transit commercial . These guys think that viewers are just plain stupid ... I guess the less than 10K subs on this channel says it all !
* Sponsored by Ford *
can't wait when Mitsubishi will rebadge Renault Trafic and please name it as PORTER haha
I think they are already doing this ; its called Mitsubishi Express ;-)
Hiace or nothing , Toyota or nothing , reliability or brake downs , if you want a shit resale and a disco of sounds buy the ford , basically same price at the end of the day , jump in the 6 speed manual Hiace or just go backwards with your investment
Samuel Lamont I can’t comment because I only have driven the Transit but the Transit is a great van. The interior is great, drives very nicely and with mine being the 6 speed manual it’s fun as well. So far no reliability issues and owning Fords in the past I haven’t had any. The Hiace does look like to be a great van but I preferred the way the Transit drives
Ford no1. The end
automatic vans should be a crime
Nope, but its a infinity war for someones manual shift and automatic.
My next van, its 100% a automatic.
But choose the right one for you and have fun with it :)
@V M Jeah i understood that 100%. I doestn like it , too when a wrong bytes lets died my car :).
She doesn’t work from her van her hairs to nice.
This program was brought to you by ford Australia 😂😂😂 to much BS 😂😂😂
The most unreliable van ever
Can I see the case studies concerning this engine?
I have the ford pure shit