As a kpop stan I agree Kpop stans are the most toxic towards each other more then those outside of it. Sucks cause kpop is fun and I’ve made a lot of kpop stan friends
As a k-pop fan, I HATE all the toxicity I see on twitter and the internet in general. Of course, it's easier to see the toxic ones because the reasonable super fans don't really go out of their way to be noticed or seek attention.
@@pavelm.gonzalez8608 Uh... Hold on... No... Everyone still remembers 2nei and SNSD years later after their peaks and still have a fanbase even after one disbanded and the other was remade twice. And BTS are way huger than either of them soooooo lad ARMYS will be around a long time and Kpop is just becoming bigger each day 👀 Do research
I'd more say the fanbases of certain subgenres of Metal. Outside of Prog, Thrash, Black and certain kinds of Death Metal, as well as the Tool fanbase, the fanbases tend to be quite good, in my experience at least.
At least Metalheads don't scream ARMYYYYYYYYYY out of context. Though I personally think it would be cool if we screamed out names of our favorite bands. The other Metalheads who aren't aware of the bands would get to check out new stuffs. 🤘🏼
"Elvis is overrated " "Queen is just famous for that rhaspody song" "Nirvana are a one hit wonder" "Jimmy Hendrix doesn't hold a candle to clapton" It's those kind of "controversial " opinions just to be the "unpopular voice not following the herd " bs
I mean if their next album actually isn't good and people give legitimate reasons as to why they think it isn't good then BTS fans will be like "ok understandable"
No, actually not. I promise you that even if he'd give it a "NOT GOOD" K-pop fans would respect it, as long as he has his reasons other than "lmao k-pop trash gay hahahhah"
@@MarianahsTrenchGal1 Let's be honest, though, that would just be the rational side of the fandom. Those 14-year-olds who scream at everyone on Twitter 24/7 about how they shouldn't call BTS as a "K-Pop group" won't be as understanding. Not at all, actually.
He emphasizes "hundreds" because he's making the point that with just hundreds of tickets, there's still a bigger profit to be made than through streaming.
I will say, I do like that melon didn’t just agree with kpop being toxic, nor did he say that kpop fans are sweet, he kinda described it pretty well in my opinion and I think made a really good point on fandom in general, which I don’t see too often from reviewers. Thanks melon!
@@_UtkarshaBora Atleast metal elistists have objective reasons to hate something and most of the time and can Identify generic music copy pasted music. Kpop fans are like religious cultist freaks in general no constructive criticism is valid to them..
@@NeoV0236 you're right about the toxic ones. but again, they're mostly obsessed kids, there's nothing that can fix them. hopefully few years into the future when these fans will somewhat mature, K-Pop fandom will no longer be labelled a crazy cult lol.
As a K-Pop fan of 10 years, just stay away from twitter. That's literally it. Don't follow trash and you won't see trash. Same with any social media site. Toxicity and yelling is loud, but I know every fanbase has that problem. K-Pop is just pretty culturally relevant right now, so obviously there will be more loud fans that get attention outside of the fandom.
No the fanbase was horrible ten years ago and its horrible now. You cant have been a long time fan if you don't know what some of these kpop idols have been through cause of "fans". Chinese kpop fans got American ones beat as well. America kpop fans look bad now in comparison cause kpop in China was kind of restricted for the past few years. But it has been toxic.
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I always admired Kurt's guitar playing for his use of distortion. He seemed to have complete control over getting the exact sound of feedback he wanted, which is just as neat as technical ability.
aS a KpOp StAn I sort of agree. The kpop fandom in itself is actually really mean towards other kpop fans. The amount of people being attacked for hating on kpop is nothing compared to the amount of people attacked for liking the "wrong" groups or, god forbid, liking more than one group. However, if you’re able to see past the fanwars and the aggressive fans who harass you for not voting for your favorite group a billion times per day for some sort of award, the kpop fandom is full of lots of really cool and talented people. It’s just like any other fandom that has a lot of teenagers, except that people will put all kpop stans in the same box (whether you’re an army, blink, once, vip, etc.), therefore it probably seems like a more toxic fandom. Imagine if you took all fans of western pop artists and put them in the same box. In my opinion that would be probably just as toxic. The fandoms were part of the reason why I was skeptical in the beginning, but the music, the choreographies, the artists, the fashion, and everything else (except the companies and the industry as a whole lol) is pretty good and if you like pop music you should give it a chance.
Couldn't agree more with this comment. And yeah it would be stupid to put all the fans western pop artists in the same group never thought about it that way before.
Why admit to being a Stan of anything? Who defends corporate entities that profit off of you being their customer. It’s like customer service but the other way around. It’s like literally the customer serving the business.
I once saw a k-pop stan account that would literally spend entire days just @ing random tweets with videos of performances and it made me wish I had nearly that much free time or passion for anything in life
I was watching one of the last interviews of Chester Bennington here on UA-cam and someone with a BTS related profile picture posted a very heartfelt comment about how LP music helped them through their teenage years of depression and self harm. The replies were people sympathizing with them and wishing them the best in life. And then a Kpop stan replied "ARMYYYYYYYYYYY ❤🌸💞❤🌸💞" like a whole insensitive asshole. When she was called out on it she got all salty and started saying that BTS's music is wayy more revolutionary and ground breaking than Linkin Park ever was. Like, I get it. Not all of them are like that. But there's just so many of them trying to recruit more and more Kpop stans into their cult by saying the same five things over and over again it makes it difficult to appreciate the art of your idols.
@@lycanthoss ARMY is the name given to the BTS fandom. it stands for Adorable Representative MCs for Youth (i think). it's just like Beliebers, or Swifties, or Arianators
Dude I like bts, like a lot. But I wanna punch right in the face all the people that comment: '' BtS !! AaRmY !! 🙍💓🙌💪💪💋👌👍✌✋👊👈👉👇👆☝👋👏🤘🖖👐🖐'' if someone has a bts profile picture in a non bts related video.
Dude, these ARMYs are probably the most annoying Kpop fandom in history, lol. I've never seen a Kpop fandom that always randomly say "ArmYyy" and force ppl to listen to BTS music. Taste is subjective but, their music is very generic edm pop IMO, there's nothing special. Maybe because i grew up listening to oldskool stuff and tbh i feel too old listening to pop music sometimes. My Army (ex) friend literally stop talking to me when i said i like EXO songs better than BTS (idk they hate EXO for whatever reason) and befriended an EXO fan. Like, sis, just because i don't like their music or genre doesn't mean i'm a hater. Common sense who?
My dad has said the same shit for years, always said Cobain was overrated because he only played a few chords and I'd argue with him that his guitar playing wasn't the showcase, just to add a tone to the song.
Actually as a guy who doesn't listen to k-pop at all, i commented on new btw song and it wasn't so positive. But at the end i said he had a decent flow. I got so much nice comments like " thanks for giving it a chance " or actually the nicest one imo was something along " he was an underground rapper, check his demo out here's a link ". My impression with at least bts fans was insanely positive actually!
Parsa Khademifar because it wasn’t mindless hate, but actual criticism while respecting the artist. fantano does the same thing in his bts reviews which is why he is also met with positivity.
Im a kpop fan but when you see another fan use someone's death to promote your fucking girl group, that is way too toxic ("Why Stan Lee when you can stan Loona").
I love that point about being a good guitarist. I feel like what is seen as "good" in music should be whatever stands out and captivates rather than just what is seen as technically impressive.
Daigle why? It's one of the most overrated normie bands this century. 99% of their fan base can't even understand the fucking lyrics and just like the dumb industrial rock sound. But at least they're not as bad as metallica or slayer
Toxic is not quite the right word... It's more of a 'chidish' or 'overreacting' fanbase.. I love K-pop, and the bad apples are just overprotective drama queens, most of the time, that get to the point of harassing label managers because an idol looks a bit too thin on their last gram post, so "they obviously have an eating disorder"... They love to ignore that it's an idustry heavy artform, nd that theses artists sign contracts. Not to say that criticism is often shunned, since every song is a "yas queen slay snatch my wig". There exist, however, spaces outside of popular social media where fans can actually discuss the music, where you won't be linched for saying SNSDs Holiday is hot garbage and the b-side is miles better. That being said, if you think they are any worse than the Eminem fanbase, you "Drink Way Too Much Mountain Dew", as Earl said best. Or, you know... the XXXtentacion fandom...
innewyorkimillyrock I was a huge army Stan before I still stan them but the fan base is just terrible(at least the place I’ve come from ) You can find unofficial fan groups of them having lewd stuff and sending porn literally. Also they hate fan boys like hell , they’ll find a ways to make the dude get accused for sexual harassment, something which I haven’t done ... Actually came to know that calling someone cute is sexual harassment 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I'd just like to say that: You can always be a fan of something until that something becomes a part of everything you do: for example your persona on the internet revolves all around that thing. At that point it just becomes cringy. Very cringy. For a better understanding, think of a weeb. Watching anime itself is all good but when your actual existence revolves all around it, then it's kinda absurd and stupid.
K-Pop fans are actually the reason I've never even considered listening to them. You can't look at twitter without them spamming the replies of shit that has nothing to do with them.
It would be nice if the fanbase has a certain echo chamber that they can scream at but damn, these KPOP fans are everywhere. Most are just embarrassing. Worshipping only their good looks and not actually discussing their music or the art in general. Which probably turned off a lot of people to explore the genre.
I saw a comment on a video from a kpop person saying their grandfather passed away and asking for prayers. The other kpop fan base commented things like “army” and “omg another army” how disrespectful
I Don’t get It it was on a video about a car crash. It ok to post about it on a video like that. I’m talking about the army being disrespectful not the person who posted the comment.
i wish people would learn the differences between troll accounts pretending to be kpop stans, bots and the actual kpop stan accounts. sure kpop fans can be annoying but they are rarely as violent and pervasive as the trolls and bots. this is coming from someone who is a casual fan of a few groups and has witnessed the best and worst twitter has to offer for a few years now. most kpop fans are teens and young adults who just enjoy the music, there are problems within in the community as there are in any fanbase and i believe those problems are often blown out of proportion by people with false pretenses.
The biggest reason why the Kpop fandom looks and feels so toxic is because its so big. The bigger the community, the more chance is there for you to find some assholes. Even as a kpop fan myself. I've met my fair share of assholes, but it doesn't really bother me, because most fans I know are really chill people that allows you to share your opinions and talk it out. Of course, there will always be those who get jealous whenever the Kpop idol they like the most hangs out with a girl/boy and throws a tantrum... But don't mind them, lol
@@witchfynderfinder1882 the genocide track was pretty much guaranteed to happen when they picked that terrible lead singer, I blame their failure on him.
one thing yall might not know about BTS fanbase: if you see someone mocking someone's death, using a BTS member's picture as pfp and their account is very new, they're trolls to make the fandom look toxic. It doesn't take long for the fandom to report the account until it's deleted.
To add: BigHit (BTS's company) copyrighted the fandom name in order to be able to deal with these malicious accounts easier; legal action has been taken against fake accounts and there are entire communities dedicated to reporting these types of things
5:15 If paratext were graded, then K-pop releases would get 10/10 for sure I mean, the packaging, booklets, photobooks, photocards, artwork, etc are usually pretty sick. I'm not even talking about MVs
a lot of k-pop fanbases actually just fight with each other most of the time, i'd say most of the annoying tweets or comments people see are actually just 1% of fans saying stuff to be "edgy". the majority of fans just like to see the music they like reviewed because it's not always heard by the general public, and they're usually pretty appreciative of it.
They literally named their recent Album, “Persona.” I’m a Persona Fan as in, THE ACTUAL GAME SERIES! Every time I try to look up information for any new Persona games, BTS always pops up first.
I like both but just sayin bts named their albums persona because of the inspiration from the book map of the soul by carl jung, not bcs of the persona games or to overshadow them lol anyways to search the games put the number , like persona 5 or persona or 3 or 1 or whatevs. it wouldnt show the bts one that way
Toxicity in any genre is always going to happen. But because of kpops overwhelming popularity internationally, they’re going to have a lot of bad apples
I feel like everyone who says kpop is terrible music actually may like some stuff but are just frustrated at the fan base and bases their opinion on the entire genre (which has so many genres within of itself) to be as bad as their fans. This is sad since they may be missing out on something they can enjoy in a community of mostly nice people, but that isn’t anything new- with every big fandom comes the same exact problem.
I mean this is the same fanbase that openly mocks death , Kicks people when they're down , and has gone out their way to threaten others they don't like
Well, metalheads harass women that speak up about being raped in fests, and rap fans defend Travis Scott after he didn't stop the show while looking at people dying in his crowd. What the fuck are you talking about?
@@akaRyuka Ah yes , classic deflecting onto others when they're not the subject matter. Excellent. Nobody excuses any of that but at the same time , they're not who's being talked about.
What pisses me off is I see Kpop in my trending topics on Twitter, despite muting every kpop person or band that I know. It’s intrusive and it’s spam Twitter should just ban it I can’t enjoy seeing what’s going on in my twitter circle bc kpop has taken over that for me
John Frusciante once praised Kurt Cobain's guitar playing because of the emotion behind it rather than the technical skill, and I gotta agree. You could feel the sadness of Cobain's songwriting in every chord.
Kurt Cobain's a weird example for a bad guitarist. Certainly not the most technical parts ever but it's in many ways more intricate than a lot of the (also great) punk music it was influenced by.
Shara Ismeep duee your replying to every comment that involves a dislike in kpop we get it your a fan and you dont do what they sah bur a solid 80 percent do your not quirky bud
I like how they did the explicit content label on albums like Blackstar by David Bowie where they put the label on the album's shrink wrap instead of in the actual album art.
@desperate loser trying to be suspended im not allowed to be gay, but that doesnt mean i hate on gays?? im assuming u hate gays since someone told u its bad to be gay, sorry if its incorrect
I remember this guy who made a vid used a ke$ha version of a Girl's Generation song and the k-pop fans chewed him out and made him delete the video. AND THIS WAS ALMOST 15 YEARS AGO. The K-Pop fandom has always been toxic and horrible. It just got out of control when k-pop got big outside of just weebs
lmao what there's nothing toxic about the metal scene, other than the edgy Norwegian guys (mostly just mayhem/burzum even then). most metalheads are chill dudes
I actually like the “Parental Advisory” tag. Always have. Maybe because my dad always used to make me buy all the “clean” Albums when I was younger. That and I think it just looks cool. I don’t think it takes away from the album cover. I might even go as far to say as it makes it even better
I'd just like to warn everyone that a bald man in a flannel shirt that looked suspiciously like Anthony keeps knocking on my door, trying to sell me nifty, comfortably fitting wallets. I respected him at first, but now he's beginning to disturb me quite prominently... Sometimes, I catch him lit by streetlights at the edge of the street, staring up at my window for hours at a time. It's getting annoying as the Jahovah Witnesses around here, and I fear for my safety at this juncture. If anyone has any information about this man, please do let me know.
I used to be in the kpop community in 2014 till 2018 and let me tell you, it used to be quite peaceful until they become mainstream and overrated, especially Bts, and I used to be a hardcore army. But the more famous they are the more toxic and obsessed fans you'll have. And I also realized that most are 11-16 years old. I'm now 19 and I'm glad I got over my obsession.
I feel like the parental advisory sticker adds to the aesthetic of some album art. Some like Watching Movies use it creatively too. It's kinda neat how the sticker was created to stifle rap music sales, but now rap is running the music industry and the sticker is mainly vestigial. The creative kids won
Interesting that Kpop fans are often labelled "toxic" and/or "fanatical" when there's sports fans out there starting riots that result in major property damage and death.
K-pop fans really aren't that bad. They are just so large at times it can be frustrating and overwhelming. And sometimes they are uninformed, which can be frustrating too. This is speaking from a k-pop fan
Wait, what about the fans that disrespect dead people? What about the fans who hate other people because they don't have the same taste in music/does not like K-pop? Lastly, how about elitists that say K-pop is better any music genre and artist?
I have a story for this. So on this one amino (I assure you it is NOT at all supposed to be K-pop themed), there are multiple themes of K-pop. It’s an amino for templates that are literally almost all k-pop themed. And it makes me mad because I dislike k-pop (sue me) and all I did was share my opinion in this amino. I said that there’s more k-pop posts here than on the actual amino, because I was actually getting tired of them being featured all the time. But yet for some reason, millions of people commented stuff like “it’s still *’on topic’* “ and I was just like, dang, chill! All I was doing was sharing my opinion and 50 of the kewaboos tell me off. This is why I hate anything to do with k-pop...
I think the guy talking about the tours being optional could be right if the artist does a pay-per-view type livestream. As long as it’s something cool it could be a new way to get a “live” performance experience.
I think that this idea could fill a niche (that clearly exists, as evidenced by the popularity of Tiny Desk, etc.), but still doubt that it would reach a point where live recording sales would seriously challenge live ticket sales. Live recordings can have a different vibe and sound more intimate (than studio recordings), but they don't (at least in my opinion) fully capture the energy and feeling of being in a crowd and taking in the perfomance first-hand.
I feel like Kpop fandom can get annoying because of the ultra-competitive nature of the Kpop landscape. Obviously, all pop is competitive, but when the industry runs on live performance competitions on TV, the fans feel the need to support their artist and get them to 'win'. That's why you get people constantly saying things like 'stan MAMAMOO' or replying to unrelated tweets with fancams.
There's a difference between annoying and toxic. K Pop stans are annoying at times, but they rarely gang up and attack people with different opinions as other actual toxic fanbases do.
James Burgess So i am a lucky man in this word when some webbo kpop fan attacked when i dare to say: hey kpop is boring and have 0 art work. Just like can you name 1 kpop team that write own songs and music and make own coreografi? I wait.
0motig0 Seventeen are known for doing their own choreography and songs. BTS are almost famous for having a hand 95% of their own discography. They decide themselves what they want to write about. Though not all groups have artistic freedom, a big number of them are starting to get involved, especially the youngest groups. While no one should attack you, your statement does show that you didn’t really do much research. I’ll gladly give you some links to music videos with artistic merit in them. Regardless of that, I’m sorry that you were attacked. Most k-pop fans, especially on UA-cam and Instagram, are morons.
The problem with kpop fans is that they take it way too seriously which is why they fight amongst each other. Really it’s not that deep.
No different than Tool fans, then.
So it's like all music fans is what you're saying.
I get where the argument comes from as they can be pretty racist sometimes.
As a kpop stan I agree
Kpop stans are the most toxic towards each other more then those outside of it. Sucks cause kpop is fun and I’ve made a lot of kpop stan friends
I learned it the hard way. Most of us breath KPOP and their whole life revolves around it. It's kind of sad when you think about it but yeah
Anthony Fantano looks like he never bends his knees to pick stuff up
@Indigo Aztec You probably look like that too.
He looks like a melon.
You must not have seen his leg day at the gym
So, melon drops down to a push up position, grabs what's on the floor and jumps back up with his arms?
I AGREE
Indigo Aztec he bends straight down, just without bending his knees
he's flexible like that
Fantano, Babish, Sean Evans and Michael from Vsauce are the four melons of the apocalypse.
🤣🤣🤣
is keemstar eligible?
psychedsubstance is #5
Seth?
Hey vsauce michael here
As a k-pop fan, I HATE all the toxicity I see on twitter and the internet in general. Of course, it's easier to see the toxic ones because the reasonable super fans don't really go out of their way to be noticed or seek attention.
Don't worry man in 5-10 years 90% of the "real/loyal" ARMY won't remember and won't give a shit of these guys/girls!!!
I'm a hater but i still respect some of Kpop fans
@@pavelm.gonzalez8608 Uh... Hold on... No... Everyone still remembers 2nei and SNSD years later after their peaks and still have a fanbase even after one disbanded and the other was remade twice. And BTS are way huger than either of them soooooo lad ARMYS will be around a long time and Kpop is just becoming bigger each day 👀 Do research
@Sara I still respect Kpop fans even i'm a hater
@@aoifemetal Nah, if you combined the entire army of every single country in the world, there's a possibility that the ARMY's would be killed
Eh let's be real. Metalheads can be pretty toxic sometimes and I say that as a metalhead
I'd more say the fanbases of certain subgenres of Metal. Outside of Prog, Thrash, Black and certain kinds of Death Metal, as well as the Tool fanbase, the fanbases tend to be quite good, in my experience at least.
The metal fanbase is like the music itself, either one of the greatest or absolute dogshit
Metalheads fight among themselves
At least Metalheads don't scream ARMYYYYYYYYYY out of context. Though I personally think it would be cool if we screamed out names of our favorite bands. The other Metalheads who aren't aware of the bands would get to check out new stuffs. 🤘🏼
P B put me on too some metal nigga tryna expand my horizons
LET'S ARGUE: Fantano is a music reviewer.
I disagree, but I respect your opinion
I....agree .Anthony Fantano is indeed a reviewer of the art known as Music
I disagree, he is actually a minimalist wallet salesman.
Yes
hes not
That Kurt Cobain "hot take" is the most 14 year old-tier opinion ever. It's up there with "The Beatles are overrated".
the beatles are damn overrated though
@@user-fo3yt1jq6n no they pretty much invented prog rock and were extremely important to the development of contemporary pop, rock and metal music.
"Elvis is overrated "
"Queen is just famous for that rhaspody song"
"Nirvana are a one hit wonder"
"Jimmy Hendrix doesn't hold a candle to clapton"
It's those kind of "controversial " opinions just to be the "unpopular voice not following the herd " bs
@@brandonayong7656 Queen was really good before 1980
@@skullsouljah2836 That was their best material but they still did some great stuff after imo
I didn't know you could drink Kpop fans
Yo its pizza time guy
How are people now just finding this comment
@@hasinnn cuz we we're too busy drinking us some good K-pop
no silly
Lets Argue: Death Grips are just a rip off of Death Grips
You could actually argue that, since they "broke up" at one point
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You’re going to trigger the melon
*deathgrips 2.0
*AAAAAAA*
Give the next BTS album a NOT GOOD and you'll see the gates to hell open right in front of you.
@@theloveofyourlife545 BTS = garbage. get ur facts right
I mean if their next album actually isn't good and people give legitimate reasons as to why they think it isn't good then BTS fans will be like "ok understandable"
No, actually not. I promise you that even if he'd give it a "NOT GOOD" K-pop fans would respect it, as long as he has his reasons other than "lmao k-pop trash gay hahahhah"
@@MarianahsTrenchGal1 Let's be honest, though, that would just be the rational side of the fandom. Those 14-year-olds who scream at everyone on Twitter 24/7 about how they shouldn't call BTS as a "K-Pop group" won't be as understanding. Not at all, actually.
Nah, depends on the reasoning.
"thousands, or even HUNDREDS of tickets" -melon
He emphasizes "hundreds" because he's making the point that with just hundreds of tickets, there's still a bigger profit to be made than through streaming.
I will say, I do like that melon didn’t just agree with kpop being toxic, nor did he say that kpop fans are sweet, he kinda described it pretty well in my opinion and I think made a really good point on fandom in general, which I don’t see too often from reviewers. Thanks melon!
Fuck gay-pop
And here you see a mature BTS fan and an immature BTS hater.
and we still get called the toxic ones
yeah it's nice to see someone who doesn't lose all capacity for rational thought once kpop is mentioned
Watching this video made me realize Kanye has a fursona.
oh god oh fuck
Tedye west
It’s probably one of those furrless cats
Subtitles: sounds like death grips
Deaf people: 8/10
Deaf grips
@@hanneslindberg8252 especially if they're blind and deaf
*Deaf Grips*
subtitles: sounds like damn
deaf melon: 7/10
subtitles: sounds like twenty one pilots
deaf melon: 8/10
fuck death grips
Snekcharmer that hurt man
tbh i think that elitist metalheads are the most annoying fanbase, and this is coming from someone who likes metal
Jon Ass couldn’t agree more
Trust me kpop is far worst coming from someone who likes and keeps tabs on both..
@@NeoV0236 but the K-pop stans are mostly kids/teens/really young adults. in elitist metalheads there's more middle-aged rage than anything lol
@@_UtkarshaBora Atleast metal elistists have objective reasons to hate something and most of the time and can Identify generic music copy pasted music.
Kpop fans are like religious cultist freaks in general no constructive criticism is valid to them..
@@NeoV0236 you're right about the toxic ones. but again, they're mostly obsessed kids, there's nothing that can fix them. hopefully few years into the future when these fans will somewhat mature, K-Pop fandom will no longer be labelled a crazy cult lol.
As a K-Pop fan of 10 years, just stay away from twitter. That's literally it. Don't follow trash and you won't see trash. Same with any social media site. Toxicity and yelling is loud, but I know every fanbase has that problem. K-Pop is just pretty culturally relevant right now, so obviously there will be more loud fans that get attention outside of the fandom.
When K-Pop finally gets a sexual abuse/legal scandal underway 😎👌🏽
No the fanbase was horrible ten years ago and its horrible now. You cant have been a long time fan if you don't know what some of these kpop idols have been through cause of "fans". Chinese kpop fans got American ones beat as well. America kpop fans look bad now in comparison cause kpop in China was kind of restricted for the past few years. But it has been toxic.
@@elijahgavin6706 It shouldn't just be a "kpop" scandal. It's a human issue.
twitter is mankind's greatest failure
Fuck off your weeb shit will NEVER be culturally relevant.
K pop is practically anime community level of toxicity but less self aware
I mean weebs trash weebs for being weebs. At least we know what we are lol
As an anime fan ,i agree
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I‘ve been around in both fandoms, also metal and pophead ones and the worst stans I‘ve ever met were Ariana grande stans
@@uwu-jv2jn you got a problem?
I watch for the intros and leave.
el guap good taste
m00d
Kpop Sooccs
Lmao 😂
Let's Argue: Cannibal Corpse is the best K Pop band.
BTS is my favourite technical death metal band
@@ses694 ruined it. Immediately ruined it
BgA is best k pop band
I agree
“Maybe if (recently dead celebrity) stanned (any KPOP artist) they would still be alive”
I see this tweet way too often
I have seen this for both Lil Peep, Mac Miller, XXX, and now Nipsey. They really need to stop
The problem the majority making those ignorant tweets are super young.
It's mostly bots/trolls
its hilarious when one of their kpop artists commit suicide and people start tweeting “should’ve stanned x”
@@barry9460 yeah hahaha real funny, joking about suicide is so hilarious
Dude wtf is wrong with you
LET'S ARGUE: Anthony should give us a review of Rammstein's new track already.
Agree
Yessss
Jojo
speed weed
Rammstein is car music tier at best.
How about that King Crimson Requiem though :^]
PLAYBOI CARTI HAS NO REDEEMING QUALITIES except redeeming qualities
Me “imma go foh da bietch, imma go dutch da bietch” ~ playboi carti, his whole career
Me not nearly as many redeeming qualities as folk band ed’s redeemable qualities
D E U S inaccurate assessment, but I can see how an uninitiated individual could come to that conclusion
@@TehMadCow i apologize, allow me to correct my previous statement:
"Yeah, I'ma go fuck that bitch, I'ma go thrash that bitch
Shawty gon' suck this dick, shawty gon' suck this dick
That's a pull-up bitch, don't make me pull up bitch
I smash that thot, then pull out bitch, might push to Flacko shit
Watch me pull up, take yo chain lil bitch
I'm on Deebo lit, I'm on 'migo lit, I'm on kilo lit
I go psycho, bitch, watch me sock yo' bitch
Watch me thrust that bitch, then I pass that bitch"
- Playboi Carti
I declare you gay
I always admired Kurt's guitar playing for his use of distortion. He seemed to have complete control over getting the exact sound of feedback he wanted, which is just as neat as technical ability.
aS a KpOp StAn I sort of agree. The kpop fandom in itself is actually really mean towards other kpop fans. The amount of people being attacked for hating on kpop is nothing compared to the amount of people attacked for liking the "wrong" groups or, god forbid, liking more than one group. However, if you’re able to see past the fanwars and the aggressive fans who harass you for not voting for your favorite group a billion times per day for some sort of award, the kpop fandom is full of lots of really cool and talented people.
It’s just like any other fandom that has a lot of teenagers, except that people will put all kpop stans in the same box (whether you’re an army, blink, once, vip, etc.), therefore it probably seems like a more toxic fandom. Imagine if you took all fans of western pop artists and put them in the same box. In my opinion that would be probably just as toxic.
The fandoms were part of the reason why I was skeptical in the beginning, but the music, the choreographies, the artists, the fashion, and everything else (except the companies and the industry as a whole lol) is pretty good and if you like pop music you should give it a chance.
GamingGeek 820 Then try to get into girl bands
@@gamerlife4276 or get into the solo artists
Couldn't agree more with this comment. And yeah it would be stupid to put all the fans western pop artists in the same group never thought about it that way before.
you have a dog in your picture and uwu in your name. you have no valid opinion.
Why admit to being a Stan of anything? Who defends corporate entities that profit off of you being their customer. It’s like customer service but the other way around. It’s like literally the customer serving the business.
LET'S ARGUE : Anthony Fantano is K-pop itself
MELON OPPAR 🍈🍉 salanghae💕🌹💗💮
@@pongo5271 ÙwÚ
My bias Fantano oppar 💓💓💓💓
hes my bias 🤪🤪
LET'S AGREE: "Rip Harambe" by Elon Musk is the best experimental hip-hop single of the decade
Franciszek Twardowski I... AGREE.
Let's Agree x 100000
I......... agree
of the decade? that's an understatement. it's beyond the boundaries of time we never even know
Lmao i totally forgot that existed 😂
nah, I say the Ariana fanbase has got them beat
"aNd WhAt AbOuT iT?"
tHat'S ThE tEa siS
"tHaT''s tHe teA siS"
Periodt💅
I agree
Ok sis go off I guess
I once saw a k-pop stan account that would literally spend entire days just @ing random tweets with videos of performances and it made me wish I had nearly that much free time or passion for anything in life
"XXL already know some of the faces that are GUNNA be on it"
I see you melon.
Oh wow
omg Gunna confirmed
I was watching one of the last interviews of Chester Bennington here on UA-cam and someone with a BTS related profile picture posted a very heartfelt comment about how LP music helped them through their teenage years of depression and self harm. The replies were people sympathizing with them and wishing them the best in life. And then a Kpop stan replied "ARMYYYYYYYYYYY ❤🌸💞❤🌸💞" like a whole insensitive asshole. When she was called out on it she got all salty and started saying that BTS's music is wayy more revolutionary and ground breaking than Linkin Park ever was.
Like, I get it. Not all of them are like that. But there's just so many of them trying to recruit more and more Kpop stans into their cult by saying the same five things over and over again it makes it difficult to appreciate the art of your idols.
I forgot stan is now a word...thanks for using it and reminding me....
I'm outside the loop, what's up with the "Armyy"?
@@lycanthoss ARMY is the name given to the BTS fandom. it stands for Adorable Representative MCs for Youth (i think). it's just like Beliebers, or Swifties, or Arianators
Dude I like bts, like a lot. But I wanna punch right in the face all the people that comment: '' BtS !! AaRmY !! 🙍💓🙌💪💪💋👌👍✌✋👊👈👉👇👆☝👋👏🤘🖖👐🖐'' if someone has a bts profile picture in a non bts related video.
Dude, these ARMYs are probably the most annoying Kpop fandom in history, lol. I've never seen a Kpop fandom that always randomly say "ArmYyy" and force ppl to listen to BTS music. Taste is subjective but, their music is very generic edm pop IMO, there's nothing special. Maybe because i grew up listening to oldskool stuff and tbh i feel too old listening to pop music sometimes. My Army (ex) friend literally stop talking to me when i said i like EXO songs better than BTS (idk they hate EXO for whatever reason) and befriended an EXO fan. Like, sis, just because i don't like their music or genre doesn't mean i'm a hater. Common sense who?
Yo fantano, the stuff you said on cobain was real shit. As a guitar guy I thank you
*as a guitar I also thank you*
Looks like someone doesn’t know how to play the guitar...
My dad has said the same shit for years, always said Cobain was overrated because he only played a few chords and I'd argue with him that his guitar playing wasn't the showcase, just to add a tone to the song.
*as a guy, i thank you too*
Cobain played the music he did because he could not play fast enough for punk or technical enough for metal.
Actually as a guy who doesn't listen to k-pop at all, i commented on new btw song and it wasn't so positive. But at the end i said he had a decent flow.
I got so much nice comments like " thanks for giving it a chance " or actually the nicest one imo was something along " he was an underground rapper, check his demo out here's a link ".
My impression with at least bts fans was insanely positive actually!
Parsa Khademifar because it wasn’t mindless hate, but actual criticism while respecting the artist. fantano does the same thing in his bts reviews which is why he is also met with positivity.
K pop do go hard in the paint sometimes but they just got hella hard core people on twitter
Im a kpop fan but when you see another fan use someone's death to promote your fucking girl group, that is way too toxic ("Why Stan Lee when you can stan Loona").
like 1 hour after the news about nipsey dropped i saw multiple kpop twitter accounts talking shit about him instantly so fuck them
@@ryukenn1325 fucking lol
Yeah some K-pop fans (especially Loona fans, for some reason) are hella disrespectful. Most of us aren't like that, though.
Ryukenn ok that’s dark but it’s fucking hilarious
False: Melon boi fanbase is the most toxic
This is true
>implying other fandoms don't get as toxic
stop cherrypicking.
No but there's actually a lot of edgelords :/ he doesn't deserve it
So uhh.. this comment... it's not good.
Yes
I love that point about being a good guitarist. I feel like what is seen as "good" in music should be whatever stands out and captivates rather than just what is seen as technically impressive.
you're right, melon, I also think J-Hope from BTS is really attractive. well said
Tiffany B. I don't see it at all
@@winterwolf211 j hope isn't attractive
@@winterwolf211 he just isn't attractive. That all I said
@ the people saying he isn't attractive: That sounds like a you problem
@@Tiffany__B "A you problem"?
LET'S AGREE: Melon should've talked about the new Rammstein
Hell yes
Danny Dircio you dumb as shit you tasteless fuck
Would have been a good song without the terrible echoing throughout the track
Danny Dircio You visit 4chan, we all know you a fucking lolicon, you ugly piece of shit
Daigle why? It's one of the most overrated normie bands this century. 99% of their fan base can't even understand the fucking lyrics and just like the dumb industrial rock sound. But at least they're not as bad as metallica or slayer
Toxic is not quite the right word... It's more of a 'chidish' or 'overreacting' fanbase.. I love K-pop, and the bad apples are just overprotective drama queens, most of the time, that get to the point of harassing label managers because an idol looks a bit too thin on their last gram post, so "they obviously have an eating disorder"... They love to ignore that it's an idustry heavy artform, nd that theses artists sign contracts. Not to say that criticism is often shunned, since every song is a "yas queen slay snatch my wig". There exist, however, spaces outside of popular social media where fans can actually discuss the music, where you won't be linched for saying SNSDs Holiday is hot garbage and the b-side is miles better.
That being said, if you think they are any worse than the Eminem fanbase, you "Drink Way Too Much Mountain Dew", as Earl said best.
Or, you know... the XXXtentacion fandom...
L
innewyorkimillyrock I was a huge army Stan before
I still stan them but the fan base is just terrible(at least the place I’ve come from )
You can find unofficial fan groups of them having lewd stuff and sending porn literally.
Also they hate fan boys like hell , they’ll find a ways to make the dude get accused for sexual harassment, something which I haven’t done ...
Actually came to know that calling someone cute is sexual harassment 🤦♀️🤦♀️
BTS fanbase is actually way more terrible than any fandom that exists
I'd just like to say that: You can always be a fan of something until that something becomes a part of everything you do: for example your persona on the internet revolves all around that thing.
At that point it just becomes cringy. Very cringy.
For a better understanding, think of a weeb. Watching anime itself is all good but when your actual existence revolves all around it, then it's kinda absurd and stupid.
"Kpop fanbases are the most toxic."
2nd wave black metal fans: *[literally exist]*
SEAN EVANS USED TO PLAY FOOTBALL, TAKE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND PHYSICALLY USE IT AGAINST HIM
K-Pop fans are actually the reason I've never even considered listening to them. You can't look at twitter without them spamming the replies of shit that has nothing to do with them.
It would be nice if the fanbase has a certain echo chamber that they can scream at but damn, these KPOP fans are everywhere. Most are just embarrassing. Worshipping only their good looks and not actually discussing their music or the art in general.
Which probably turned off a lot of people to explore the genre.
I saw a comment on a video from a kpop person saying their grandfather passed away and asking for prayers. The other kpop fan base commented things like “army” and “omg another army” how disrespectful
The fact they called themselves army is really cringey
Noob like if they want to join the army ask the us military not Korean boys
Tbh I wouldn’t post about a family member passing away, that’s a bit dumb.
I Don’t get It it was on a video about a car crash. It ok to post about it on a video like that. I’m talking about the army being disrespectful not the person who posted the comment.
i wish people would learn the differences between troll accounts pretending to be kpop stans, bots and the actual kpop stan accounts. sure kpop fans can be annoying but they are rarely as violent and pervasive as the trolls and bots. this is coming from someone who is a casual fan of a few groups and has witnessed the best and worst twitter has to offer for a few years now. most kpop fans are teens and young adults who just enjoy the music, there are problems within in the community as there are in any fanbase and i believe those problems are often blown out of proportion by people with false pretenses.
Can't see k-pop without shuddering at the memory of this year's UA-cam rewind, thanks for the shudder
I don’t affiliate w/KPop fandom at all, but what were they (UA-cam rewind) thinking? Really, I wanna know.
Trust me, K-pop fans, especially army's hated that.
we armys hated it too, don‘t worry
iiiiiiit's rewind time
Thats hot
You misspelled Let's Agree.
One time I said K-Pop more like K-Poop to my cousin and she had a tantrum.
Ive seen that joke before bud
The k pop more like k poop?
@@raypark6013 it's everywhere
The biggest reason why the Kpop fandom looks and feels so toxic is because its so big. The bigger the community, the more chance is there for you to find some assholes. Even as a kpop fan myself. I've met my fair share of assholes, but it doesn't really bother me, because most fans I know are really chill people that allows you to share your opinions and talk it out.
Of course, there will always be those who get jealous whenever the Kpop idol they like the most hangs out with a girl/boy and throws a tantrum... But don't mind them, lol
RAMMSTEIN. I'd love to see a review of Deutschland :(
Review of Deutschland? Past albums sucked big time but in the president they're doing really okay
abadstoryends Why do you hate their past albums so much?
@@axjkalsok1058 their album 1933-1945 was just shit in my opinion..
@@abadstoryends honestly that album had the potential to be really good, but they ruined it with the genocide track
@@witchfynderfinder1882 the genocide track was pretty much guaranteed to happen when they picked that terrible lead singer, I blame their failure on him.
Billiethony
Eilishtano here
Wait what
Saw a BTS concet with my GF in Japan. It was pretty fun,and the crowd of girls were all very polite and excited. I didn't feel any personal toxicity.
Its mostly the american kpop fans from my understanding.
and Europeans @@jcselement
nah, they're only toxic in twitter
Only toxic online honestly that's why I tend to stay away from der
one thing yall might not know about BTS fanbase: if you see someone mocking someone's death, using a BTS member's picture as pfp and their account is very new, they're trolls to make the fandom look toxic. It doesn't take long for the fandom to report the account until it's deleted.
To add: BigHit (BTS's company) copyrighted the fandom name in order to be able to deal with these malicious accounts easier; legal action has been taken against fake accounts and there are entire communities dedicated to reporting these types of things
Edgy kpop fangirls should be executed
You are already toxic so it doesn't matter
Any kpop stan I saw on twitter was toxic
I have a feeling you are saying this to defend the toxicity of your fandom
Wow Anthony, i wanted a lets argue video not a ten minute anti semitic rant
LOL ikr, I was expecting at least a Heil Melon or a Soviet Union 2 union roundup call.
Ooh dem edges cut
Wtf is that political compass ahahah
@@IamSuperEffective what does it say, can't read it
I know kpop stans who bashed rape victims and people who committed suicide/passed away.
5:15 If paratext were graded, then K-pop releases would get 10/10 for sure
I mean, the packaging, booklets, photobooks, photocards, artwork, etc are usually pretty sick. I'm not even talking about MVs
a lot of k-pop fanbases actually just fight with each other most of the time, i'd say most of the annoying tweets or comments people see are actually just 1% of fans saying stuff to be "edgy". the majority of fans just like to see the music they like reviewed because it's not always heard by the general public, and they're usually pretty appreciative of it.
They literally named their recent Album, “Persona.”
I’m a Persona Fan as in, THE ACTUAL GAME SERIES!
Every time I try to look up information for any new Persona games, BTS always pops up first.
I like both but just sayin bts named their albums persona because of the inspiration from the book map of the soul by carl jung, not bcs of the persona games or to overshadow them lol
anyways to search the games put the number , like persona 5 or persona or 3 or 1 or whatevs. it wouldnt show the bts one that way
"Thousands, or even HUNDREDS of tickets"
Toxicity in any genre is always going to happen. But because of kpops overwhelming popularity internationally, they’re going to have a lot of bad apples
Kpop fans are almost always scary and post pictures of the bands over and over and over on social media. It is worrisome.
"thousands, even HUNDREDS of tickets per day" - Melon, 2019
Can't argue against a fact, Anthony.
I feel like everyone who says kpop is terrible music actually may like some stuff but are just frustrated at the fan base and bases their opinion on the entire genre (which has so many genres within of itself) to be as bad as their fans. This is sad since they may be missing out on something they can enjoy in a community of mostly nice people, but that isn’t anything new- with every big fandom comes the same exact problem.
5:59 yep could definitely, righteously fuck me up...but let's see you grow a beard Fantano.
We all know the X fanbase is the most toxic
Say one bad thing about him and all of a sudden you're surrounded by a vape cloud of 14yr olds with sharpie tattoos on their face
Was* XD gotem
Max Nasmyth ya right next to kpop
Eminem fans
Lee Ruhlman that was kind of a while ago they’ve kind of chilled out. The most consistently batshit has to be Beyoncé
I mean this is the same fanbase that openly mocks death , Kicks people when they're down , and has gone out their way to threaten others they don't like
do you know The Barbz? talk sh1 t about Nicki Minaz on twitter and you'll learn The Barbz
Well, metalheads harass women that speak up about being raped in fests, and rap fans defend Travis Scott after he didn't stop the show while looking at people dying in his crowd. What the fuck are you talking about?
@@akaRyuka Ah yes , classic deflecting onto others when they're not the subject matter. Excellent. Nobody excuses any of that but at the same time , they're not who's being talked about.
What pisses me off is I see Kpop in my trending topics on Twitter, despite muting every kpop person or band that I know. It’s intrusive and it’s spam Twitter should just ban it I can’t enjoy seeing what’s going on in my twitter circle bc kpop has taken over that for me
Eminem has the most toxic fanbase w/o a doubt.
Pazuzu Is Great As an Eminem fan, I agree
@@jamesaidan7425 real logical eminem fans ( as i am myself ) know how annoying and infuriating some of those stans can be
As an eminem fan, i wholey agree
🙏🙏
His fanbase is awful, but Nicki and Beyonce's fanbases are far worse.
John Frusciante once praised Kurt Cobain's guitar playing because of the emotion behind it rather than the technical skill, and I gotta agree. You could feel the sadness of Cobain's songwriting in every chord.
Kurt Cobain might not be the brightest crayon in the box but he definitely was the most reddest
your response to the first question is really great. respect!
Kurt Cobain's a weird example for a bad guitarist. Certainly not the most technical parts ever but it's in many ways more intricate than a lot of the (also great) punk music it was influenced by.
I like the parental advisory on the album. It has never ruined an album cover for me and I love the history behind it.
T. Stamp the parental advisory stamps are really fucking awesome
wish they would take it off albums so I wouldn't have to get me mom to buy rap albums for me 😤😤😤
It was cause of Darling Nikki, right?
Update- Considering that Kpop fans harassed Etika (and his fans) after his death, I'd say that qualifies as being incredibly toxic
Shara Ismeep duee your replying to every comment that involves a dislike in kpop we get it your a fan and you dont do what they sah bur a solid 80 percent do your not quirky bud
I like how they did the explicit content label on albums like Blackstar by David Bowie where they put the label on the album's shrink wrap instead of in the actual album art.
Kpop fanbases are really toxic. Say something negative about EXO, BTS, Twice, Blackpink or Red Velvet and see how quick that opinion changes.
"HAHAHA FUCKING CLOWN YOU SUCK SKSKSKS TEA TAE LOL XD"
Rhapsody and Tierra Whack are 2 of my favorite rappers
k-pop fans literally destroyed polish homophobes on twitter. i gotta respect them for that
White knights?
@@bmhater1283 It's homophobic nowadays to criticize "music" made by a bunch of prepubescent looking femboys. Sick pedophile "progressive fucks".
@desperate loser trying to be suspended im not allowed to be gay, but that doesnt mean i hate on gays?? im assuming u hate gays since someone told u its bad to be gay, sorry if its incorrect
@Ios5513 K
wait, what happened, what did they say?
Anthony is on an album cover kick. We need a Top 10 Album Covers video. Unless that video already exists. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
I remember this guy who made a vid used a ke$ha version of a Girl's Generation song and the k-pop fans chewed him out and made him delete the video. AND THIS WAS ALMOST 15 YEARS AGO. The K-Pop fandom has always been toxic and horrible. It just got out of control when k-pop got big outside of just weebs
They are not nearly as toxic as thrash metal fanbase
@@mehdibenammi3897 that too
@@mahmam3128 R o b l o x
Mehdi Benammi those guys are insecure fat retards
lmao what there's nothing toxic about the metal scene, other than the edgy Norwegian guys (mostly just mayhem/burzum even then). most metalheads are chill dudes
Most of the metalheads I came across are chill.
Is there anything that hasn’t already been said about toxic fanbases? Not a very interesting discussion at this point.
I agree completely I honestly think there should be a fandom for people who just like almost any type of music cause we'd be super chill😔
I actually like the “Parental Advisory” tag. Always have. Maybe because my dad always used to make me buy all the “clean” Albums when I was younger. That and I think it just looks cool. I don’t think it takes away from the album cover. I might even go as far to say as it makes it even better
I'd just like to warn everyone that a bald man in a flannel shirt that looked suspiciously like Anthony keeps knocking on my door, trying to sell me nifty, comfortably fitting wallets. I respected him at first, but now he's beginning to disturb me quite prominently... Sometimes, I catch him lit by streetlights at the edge of the street, staring up at my window for hours at a time. It's getting annoying as the Jahovah Witnesses around here, and I fear for my safety at this juncture. If anyone has any information about this man, please do let me know.
I used to be in the kpop community in 2014 till 2018 and let me tell you, it used to be quite peaceful until they become mainstream and overrated, especially Bts, and I used to be a hardcore army. But the more famous they are the more toxic and obsessed fans you'll have. And I also realized that most are 11-16 years old. I'm now 19 and I'm glad I got over my obsession.
Husky ARMY I’ve been to their post 2018 concerts and they’re not 11 to 16 ..... Most people are 17-27 and make their own money for these shows
I feel like the parental advisory sticker adds to the aesthetic of some album art. Some like Watching Movies use it creatively too. It's kinda neat how the sticker was created to stifle rap music sales, but now rap is running the music industry and the sticker is mainly vestigial. The creative kids won
the Parental advisory sticker is particularly egregious when its not just a sticker on the packaging but is actually printed onto the album art
Interesting that Kpop fans are often labelled "toxic" and/or "fanatical" when there's sports fans out there starting riots that result in major property damage and death.
okay
@a loser K
Shut up. All the songs are ghost written
@@jorgevazquezberea8538 like American pop lmao. Kpop gets its model from America so-
@@TheXandraPanda I don't care
K-pop fans really aren't that bad. They are just so large at times it can be frustrating and overwhelming. And sometimes they are uninformed, which can be frustrating too.
This is speaking from a k-pop fan
Tyler Madewell no they really are that bad
Animated Graph annoying? Possibly. Toxic? No.
They aren't toxic. Overall
Wait, what about the fans that disrespect dead people? What about the fans who hate other people because they don't have the same taste in music/does not like K-pop?
Lastly, how about elitists that say K-pop is better any music genre and artist?
Speaking from a kpop fan you can't hear about your trash fandom so stfu
I have a story for this. So on this one amino (I assure you it is NOT at all supposed to be K-pop themed), there are multiple themes of K-pop. It’s an amino for templates that are literally almost all k-pop themed. And it makes me mad because I dislike k-pop (sue me) and all I did was share my opinion in this amino. I said that there’s more k-pop posts here than on the actual amino, because I was actually getting tired of them being featured all the time. But yet for some reason, millions of people commented stuff like “it’s still *’on topic’* “ and I was just like, dang, chill! All I was doing was sharing my opinion and 50 of the kewaboos tell me off. This is why I hate anything to do with k-pop...
Rick Beato has some great videos which show the creativity and even complexity in the guitar parts of some Nirvana songs
truth
I just think K-Pop Stans are cringey
I just think people who just categorise all Kpop fans are cringey
Also using the word cringey is cringey
@@aoifemetal That was pretty cringey
True
Aoife Metal That was pretty cringey
ok
id like to take the time to apologize to the mlp, sonic, and undertale fandom because kpop stans is too much to deal with
I think the guy talking about the tours being optional could be right if the artist does a pay-per-view type livestream. As long as it’s something cool it could be a new way to get a “live” performance experience.
I think that this idea could fill a niche (that clearly exists, as evidenced by the popularity of Tiny Desk, etc.), but still doubt that it would reach a point where live recording sales would seriously challenge live ticket sales. Live recordings can have a different vibe and sound more intimate (than studio recordings), but they don't (at least in my opinion) fully capture the energy and feeling of being in a crowd and taking in the perfomance first-hand.
You want to piss off kpop fans? Say you dont like a member's hair colour...they will go crazy.
I still have flashbacks
When's that Rammstein track review droppin melon boi?
In a way.. ALL OPINIONS ARE TOXIC if you think about it..
That makes no sense-..
You are a kpop clown for sure
I feel like Kpop fandom can get annoying because of the ultra-competitive nature of the Kpop landscape. Obviously, all pop is competitive, but when the industry runs on live performance competitions on TV, the fans feel the need to support their artist and get them to 'win'. That's why you get people constantly saying things like 'stan MAMAMOO' or replying to unrelated tweets with fancams.
There's a difference between annoying and toxic.
K Pop stans are annoying at times, but they rarely gang up and attack people with different opinions as other actual toxic fanbases do.
James Burgess So i am a lucky man in this word when some webbo kpop fan attacked when i dare to say: hey kpop is boring and have 0 art work. Just like can you name 1 kpop team that write own songs and music and make own coreografi? I wait.
I mean they don't shoot people like western people but they're still annoying lmao
0motig0 for the sake of god please learn how to write if you want to shit on someone‘s artwork
@First and Last and Always i don't use Twitter much for anything fanbase related becuz i value my sanity.
0motig0 Seventeen are known for doing their own choreography and songs. BTS are almost famous for having a hand 95% of their own discography. They decide themselves what they want to write about. Though not all groups have artistic freedom, a big number of them are starting to get involved, especially the youngest groups.
While no one should attack you, your statement does show that you didn’t really do much research.
I’ll gladly give you some links to music videos with artistic merit in them.
Regardless of that, I’m sorry that you were attacked. Most k-pop fans, especially on UA-cam and Instagram, are morons.