"play as many different maps as you can" me: *proceeds trying to derust hdhr skills, try to ez, try to taiko, improve my skills on both Mania and Catch while still having the main mode std*
tbh i heard that mania can actually make you better at stamina and especially finger control, tho i'm not sure if that's easier to do than actually training those skill on std
I had a similar experience when I played only stream maps for a month, and in every session I saw myself getting worse and worse at streaming and that really made me lose motivation and when I came back to farm maps I noticed that I lost my ability to read jumps and took me few weeks to get the aim I once had.
Your video perfectly describes my experience when i tried improving on 1 skillset. Although i did feel i was improving it wasn't fun and my other skills like aim was going worse. Got back on playing whatever maps i like and my improvement was more balanced. Yes that 1 skillset aren't getting as good as my main skillset but it's still improving with the rest without the others getting worse.
I agree with the general premise of the video, when I was newer I couldn't stream at all and I distinctly remember taking about a month to play like 90% stream maps, however, I think overexerting myself on stream maps was more counterintuitive if anything, once I started to slow down a bit and mainly just integrated streams more into what I was playing rather than having them dominate everything I played, I felt my streams got better more passively and it felt a lot more rewarding because I was still practicing other things. Usually, when people are bad at a certain skillset it's just because they don't play it enough; for example, frequently I see people say "I can only aim but can't stream", but then all they play is aim and if try streams they either go for something to hard, feel unrewarded and quit afterwards, or they do this, they hyperfocus on that skill and it makes them so mentally fatigued because they aren't used to playing poorly or they just feel like they aren't improving fast enough.
this was very true for me. sometime in 2018 I decided i desperately needed to fix my finger control, as i was an aim player with absolutely no regard to accuracy, (global acc around 92%) i ended up hyperfocusing as depicted in the video, and don't get me wrong, my ability to play various maps with tricky patterns and overall finger control improved astronomically, but also my aim and consistency has decreased, astronomically. I could play with high accuracy, whilst my highest combo usually resides around 1/4th or 1/6th (usually on longer maps) of the maps total combo. Currently working towards enjoy game & pushing all of the above.
Honestly, I’d suggest each session to be a different skillset rather than all of the skillsets in one session. It’s helped me a lot more than putting everything together as I just don’t perform as well doing everything together. Finding the perfect balance will make your pathway much clearer imo. (6 digit advice who felt this is really good)
i have the same experience. Also i found out that i'm constantly 1 day playing at the highest level ever (for me) and then for 2 days i really need to just forget about this game. then i come back good as i was 2 days before. I don't like it tho, so when i really want to play anyway i open it and KNOW i won't score anything good so i play lower stars maps. i think it's better than play my usual and do really bad in them - get low% and making bad habits.
i'm only 230K tho. i'm improving pretty fast tho (i think?) my nick: g2faker. also i started playing on mouse in the right hand and keyboard left hand and now i'm playing tablet in left hand and keyboard in right hand. it's pretty tough lol took me fckin year to get used to that but aiming with weak hand was even harder. I was the mythical SPINOFF player XD
That is probably the most effective way to improve I remember watching Kariyu's video where he did that and improved a fuckton and thinking about doing it myself
1:40 he stated literally everything completely accurately what i normally do when i play osu! LMAO most of the maps that were playing in the background were what i used to practice streaming, even the freakin btmc skin he used for the gameplay. That's scary lmao
@@sweetheartangellic i did!! I don’t play too many video games in general but since this comment I broke through 100k, learned Hard Rock and DT reading, started playing tech maps, learned to stream, improved my aim control etc. I don’t really play for PP or farm but my finger and aim control has improved massively over time as well as my aim in general
This made me feel better. I don't really like playing 1 map over and over and I tend to switch all the time. I thought it was a bad habit of mine but I guess not!
Thank you for the remainder. I've always heard that hyperfocusing was really bad, but I didn't follow them because I always believed that "I'm different, it's okay". I was the 6-digit who had okay aim, and was heavily struggling on streams, and so I downloaded a whole bunch of maps infamous for deathstreams and spaced streams. I went along for a month of two of just pure streams, neglecting my aim. I was at a point where I could deathstream 200bpm for about 10 seconds, but couldn't prolong anything below 170 for more than 2 seconds. I was naturally frustrated and took a long break, around 3 months. I recently had the motivation to play osu when my girlfriend opened it up infront of me, playing some easy farm maps. So I played again and grinded, and without realization I was hyperfocusing on streams again. I will stop that now, since it's just a load of unproductive horsecrap.
I'm a mania player but hyperfocusing still applies. I always have a really hard time being balanced in all skillsets, because there are simply a lot. (chordjack, speedjack, tech, speed, jumpstream, handstream, and also LN dumps and LN release maps) What I found the most helpful was just to have a routine in my sessions. I would start off with accuracy training, move to chordjacks once I warmed up, then gradually picked one or two other skillsets to work on for the day.
this is exactly my current problem in improving for last 2 months, i have hyperfocused a lot at stamina and speed and completely forgot about everything else. now i know what should i do. Thank you!
thanks spazza very good video I used to not be able to read under ar10.3 at all, however, when I started playing nomod, I did not only start enjoying the game more, I improved both in nomod and at DT faster than I initially did
oh my god this video actually tackled the issue I've been experiencing for nearly 2 years, I've ONLY been focusing most of my sessions in stream heavy maps amd neglecting other types of maps. I've always wondered why I cannot push myself streaming past 160 bpm. With this new information I can maybe still have a chance to reach my goals in this game efficiently, thanks!
bro i have done exactly the same thing. like 2 months ago i decided to start improving at streams and like 5 of 6 maps i play a day are stream maps. its gonna change now after watching this video but even tho i played them so much i can barely stream any bpm consistently. before i started the grinding there was one day when i went godmode and streamed 180 for like 60~ notes. but i have just been getting worse and worse. sry for long reply but just wanted to tell it xd
This is why I'm still subscribed to you even though I only play Etterna and haven't played osu seriously in several months; because your advice is super helpful for rhythm games in general. Thank you for doing God's work.
I am actually a 6-digit, harumachi clover-spamming, vtuber-loving osu player and i totally agree with the play everything over hyperfocusing on one skill. I started getting into the game last August and the highest difficulty I can play right now are 3* maps though I can clear a few easy 4* ones. The small victories you achieve are also very helpful in motivating you to improve just like how I recently learned how to play on hidden.
ive been hyperfocusing for like a few weeks now and i started practising only streams and stuffs then i farmed and got ranks,but after a while ive been stuck at the same rank and when i played maps that were supposed to be easy for me i would fail terribly at it,and get hundreds of MINUS ranks and when i shitmissed i would retry spam like a fucking idiot. watching this vid finally made me realise my mistakes :/
6:15 I had a revelation earing this ... i really came to the conclusion that it's not about how hard you try but more how long you try ( obviously but even though everyone knows it no one wants to acknowledge it like the play more thing ) ... So ye playing something a little bit every single day is better than once hard in a week because you're building up from what you just did the other day while the opposit is also about repairing what the time damaged ...and hearing this led me to think that it's not just about the game overall that this applies to but really all aspects of the thing you want to improve at ... I really found this video helpful so thanks :)
Honestly, this advice can be taken to every single game you want to get good at. I've always "hyperfocused" on what I did wrong trying to look for balance, I really liked this piece of advice
hey there! a tournament player here. dude's straight up spitting facts, been a stream/speed/tech main for couple years now and started thinking about finally improving my aim and honestly, just force-shoving aim consistency and ez sessions didn't achieve much + made me regress on streams, speed and tech maps lol. remember to at least keep your level at your main skillsets, having to derust them constantly is always going to be painful
Recently school started back up so I can’t play osu as much as I did over the summer. I’m a low 6 digit and used to play DT farming, and HDDT all day long... but now I can only get on a few times a week, so I play a lot of diverse maps just for fun. Even though I’m playing less, I’m seeing improvement everywhere just because I’m playing more map sets without huperfocusing or a goal on getting PP. Stamina and streaming have seen big jumps since the summer. Its really nice to see, and also much more enjoyable than logging on and trying to fc a sotarks map :3
I remember when i come back from my break and tried to hit 5 digit again,i just focus entirely on farm maps. After getting past 5 digit,i tried to play long maps and my skill is gone. After that i tried to play every maps and every mod combination. After doing this for 2-3 week,i finally gained all of my skill back
After watching this video, it does make more sense now on why I notice bigger improvements when I join in pub lobbies. It's because of the host rotate and playing different beatmaps each time that it made me improve in most aspects, while also having fun.
literally having the hyperfocus era, can't hit anything, shitmissing everywhere, this video gave me the realisation that I have been trying to learn speed and stamina for way too long, and my aim and dt skills have derusted badly
Doesn't matter what I do, I will never improve, because I'm stuck with this 50kg body that can't do anything, not even play osu normally. My shoulders are fucked, my wrists are too, every joint pops and I can't play properly. My fingers are too long and even when using A and X to tap it doesn't feel good, my aim is still the same it was when I started playing with tablet 2 years ago and my eyes are getting worse and worse. I even forget muscle memory I've been using for weeks, I was playing 220-280 streams 3 days ago, for weeks, took a small break, come back, and can't hit a triple accurately Fuck this shit
thx man it helped a lot.....a few months back (when i was 700k) I used to play 4.8*~ maps.......there were 2-3 maps that i used to always mind block in and i used to spam retry on it.....this made me almost lose all my reading ability and tapping ability.......then a day later when i was getting tired of this problem, i got ur vid on recommends......can say that it truly helped a lot....thx otherwise i would have most probably quit osu..... currently ranked 189k with 5-6 200pp chokes
Damn that light vs heavy thing is real as hell, theres a mapper who makes all his maps have a red circle with a trail and whenever i play his maps with the skin on it just hits different
I'm on the hyperfocus side and I'm improving really slowly with a lot of setbacks, even tho I'm putting a lot of effort into it. I guess maybe I should try this. Currently decided to not play for a week cause last 2 days of osu were just trash and a break might help me. At first I hyperfocused on DT like you, reading, acc consistency, all turned into garbage. Then I hyperfocused on low ar, acc/consistency, lost all my speed, struggle to read high ar. It is frustrating. I randomly improved at acc and 180bpm jumping and then kinda only played maps like that for a week cause the improvemt from it was fun, I was able to play better than ever, but then I lost even more speed and my "precise" reading was lost (since I guess I didnt look at objects the same way when I played all those fullscreen jump maps) and when I tried to repractice snappy aim/reading and speed, all skillsets kinda just crashed within 1 day of practicing it and now all of them suck. Osu is hard...
This is literally whats happening to me recently, i wanted to be able to play dt and become an speed player but i ended up hyperfocusing only on dt, now i can play dt with high AR but cant stream, cant play high cs even though i was an HR player, and end up overaiming or having bad accuracy on low ar maps, thank you for the advice spazza gonna put it on pratice
was doing the same as a high 5 digit, luckily figured out that i have to practice streams, nomod and hardrock aswell to improve overall and i did. yes it did hurt my dt skill but once i got back into dt i derusted v quickly and now im pretty happy with everything; what i wanted to say, just go practice everything and dont be upset if u dont perform on dt as good as u did before, u will get back all ur skill eventually
I dedicated a whole 2 months to practicing speed and streaming as I was really bad in that area, I played nothing else. And it definitely payed off, I noticed a slight difference in my overall skill but it came back very quick so everyone is different I guess
This video was great for me. I’m a 6 digit and was getting frustrated that I wasn’t ranking up quickly because I play so much variety. Ez one day, flashlight, hdhr, hd, nomod. I was considering just dropping everything and trying to learn double time farm to rank up till I saw this video. Thanks!
"I should have realized all I needed to do was play something else, but no, I kept pushing hoping to eventually break through the wall and never did." This perfectly describes all 6 years of my osu career. I always improved the fastest when playing for fun since I would play all map types and would multi constantly to support this. But whenever I went to grind out a specific skill set or even farm, I would hyperfocus, become worse overall, then become depressed and hit a wall. I hit my peak rank when I played for enjoyment and when I switched to focus nomod/hr for tournaments, ended up becoming worse and essentially quit. ty for mega brain insight
Personally I’ve never really hyper focused any one skill set. I always bounce from map to map never really retrying unless I find the map later on in my session. So while my friends I’ve excelled in specific mods like hr only or dt I’ve just gotten decent at every other thing. But I still can’t read ar8. I’d rather take it in the ass than play ar8-( 6 digit )
lol i remember watching the fool moon night video and I never really bothered to check you. The algorithm allowed me to be here and ur content seems good. Imma drop a sub for ya
I had a weird experience where, after a lot of inconsistency for a year or two, I just started playing 4 stars and below for free S and SS ranks, including 4-5 minute long maps. After two or three weeks of that, mixed with the occasional harder map, and I went from becoming so inconsistent that I couldn't even break 200pp, to getting my first 300, on a 5 minute map too (Granted my top play was already around 280, I just hadn't gotten anywhere close to it for over a year). It might not work for everyone, but taking time to go back and spam SS ranks over a few weeks to months really built my consistency up, and my other skills followed.
I can only agree. Some time ago I played a lot of streams and I wasnt that bad at it. I could semi-consistently stream 200 BPM and below. But then I wanted to improve more at jumps and low AR. During this phase I havent played stream maps. Now I even do triplets pretty unconsistent. Thank you very much for the advice, it will help me a lot.
I know this video is years old but honestly felt like its all true. Everytime ive focused on one or 2 maps trying my best to full clear them i felt barely any improvement. but when I was just playing everything for fun I found when I went back to these maps I was managing to clear them with ease and was very surprised with myself.
BRO I’ve been hyper focusing for 3 years just focusing on streaming high bpm reading high AR and across screen jumps, I neglected all the skills I needed to be a great player all around, this is why my whole play style is so inconsistent. One day I can stream the next day I finger lock everything, I’m always limit testing thinking that playing high star rated maps will make me a top player, this video made me realize a lot about myself, and I’ll be trying to implement some of your strategies in my next session. THANKS SPAZZA +1 sub and like 👍
I'm a 6digit and stream maps are my main focus as for what to get better at. So when I first get on osu! I start with stream maps (cause that's when ur at your peak pretty much) like tower of heaven (cause its easy lol) and I try focusing on flow aim and stamina. When I start to notice that I'm getting more inconsistent, I take a 5 minute break to get water and talk on discord for a bit and then I play other random maps. I try to play farm and get a lidl pp, which never goes well, and then I switch to finger control type maps like meikaruza and I practice my finger control and alternating. Then after that I go to longer maps that are fun like onion, confusion, kanshou, stuff like that, trying to build consistency over long periods of time. This isn't some sort of training regiment but thats usually what my play sessions look like and they mostly last for about 2 and a half hours cause then I start playing like poop and before I start to bash myself on my poor playing ability, I get off the game and wind down by watching some UA-cam. Preferably something that isn't osu! Because every osu! UA-camr is better than me obviously and that's not good for the mental lol. Edit: forgot to mention that I'm starting to play mods like HDHR. I'm not hyper focusing on this mod combo but whenever I feel bored, I start light with a farm map that I previously fc'd with nm, and I try to fc with hdhr or just hd. Its helping me a bit more with reading. Also since the OD is high, I can get better tapping or whatever it's called
Wolf became the highest rated player and a reading/acc god simply because he had and still has the habit of literally playing all the maps in existance. Reading is the basis of everything, and if you play a wide variety of maps then your reading will most certainly improve
I really relate to hyperfocusing making me worse. I had many periods where I focused mainly on 1 skillset (mostly just Precision, Aim, Streams, High AR) and the more I played them I felt like I made progress from where I initially was but I still felt like I sucked everytime I just logged on and played. Like I'd go offbeat on every 180bpm stream, I would just shitmiss all the time, and I would mash every AR10.33 burst I tried hitting. I changed my mentality and just tried playing a bunch of random stuff and it really started helping me out. I took a liking to alt and tech maps and I noticed after playing them for a while and coming back my finger control on streams and flow aim improved alot. I was also able to read high ar better and my singletap speed also improved from 250 to 270bpm and my 16 note burst also got faster. Overall I'm still kinda bad but I'm better than I was before w/ a better mentality so I'd say this kinda worked for me.
Holy shit, I have been waiting for someone to talk about this!!! I have experienced this. While I'm a shit 5 digit, I have over 1k hours at this game so I tried every type of maps. I always played every kind of map in every session but lately I focused on spaced low bpm streams (demetori maps specifically) while I improved at those, I noticed my jump skills have decreased so much. The only problem is I can't play every type of map in a session because I don't have much time for osu! But oh well
I know im a bit late but I think the best way for players to improve in osu! is very similar to a gym workout. For gym workouts you'll have a balance in the fact that you work on say chest for 1 day, then the next day to legs, then the next is abs and so on. I think its similar to how you should work on your skillsets for osu, train x skillset for maybe 1 day or 1 session, the next time try a different skillset. Along with this you should also have rest days to let your muscle memory actually soak in what you've learnt.
i just cant find my comfortable tab size and grip, like i feel like i focus on that but at the same time i feel its super important to start getting better
damn, i'm literally 6 digit hyperfocusing on learning finger control on 170 bpm map, bursts, funny patterns on 5.2~ star maps, it's been like 2 months since i started lelearning bursts and stuff, but my progress doesn't feel great, i've lost my aim and reading cz most of those map don't even require having aim, today was my longest session in my whole playtime, and i've played EVERYTHING in terms on skillset, fast jumps,low ar 2014 maps,slider intense maps, tech maps, even streams, that was actually fun
To be honest i too had similar experience because i was trying to get better stamina and get better at streams in general because i realized, that i was playing only farm maps and my only strong skill was jumps. I just played on and off streams, became kinda worse at jumps and when i noticed that i was getting bad at both i decided to try and balance all of my skill sets so now i am playing stream maps, DT, tech maps, sometimes EZ, other osu! modes and etc and i think i start to see a difference which is positive.
I am trying to learn HR. I struggle with smaller circles as they cripple my reading. When I start playing osu, I play whatever I want until I feel warmed up. Then, I put on HR and play a slightly easier diff than I would normally play so I don't feel like a complete noob and can keep my motivation up. (I don't see why I would learn HR on songs I struggle with in nomod.) I play for about an hour and then switch to playing whatever I want. This way, I don't get discouraged, and I can actually see small improvements.
The hyper focus V. playing everything is real. For me at least. It’s probably just another way of saying “play more”. At first I mostly played maps I liked because of the music but were mostly difficult to go through since making many mistakes would lead to the game ending. I decided to play multiplayer out of curiosity and I after many sessions of playing different maps, I noticed that I improved so much that I was able to pass maps that were difficult for me before playing in multiplayer lobbies
This actually helps a lot, cause I only have around 70 hrs on the game, and am a 6 digit, around 400k. I dropped like 200k ranks in 1 day just farming with dt and then had recently just been really worn out and getting mad when I mess up easy/ slower maps. I noticed it myself and just want to focus of playing and progressing normally without forcing myself to feel the need to farm. Although it definitely got my mechanics better I would go way too fast on slow maps
damn it I've already been doing this one. Pressing F2 and only playing random maps (mostly gotten from multis or the recently ranked maps page) is like the most fun this in osu! imo
I'm a 5 digit that mainly plays speed and aim maps, and didnt really know how to stream until a little recently. And all i did was play freedom dive + blue zenith max diff and tried to at least pass it and after a couple days of straight up playing stream maps i started realising that i was becoming worse. So yea make sure we have a little bit of everything guys :)
I am the type of guy who will literally NEVER laugh out loud when watching any video. But for some odd reason, the "what de hell" at 5:58 made me uncontrollably laugh for some time
This reminds me of the time I began farming as a 6 digit and became so frustrated when the best I could do was four star maps. It took me a while to get out of that hole.
yeah, back in the days i realized that my streaming skills despite being a mid 4 digit were on par with a 6 digit, so i started playing stream maps non-stop. Today i realized that was a HUGE mistake, as i may have went from not being able to stream 180 for 1 min to fcing we luv lama long stream, but in exchange my jumping went from mid 4 digit to 6 digit xD
I used to be mouse only and wanted to learn how to play m+kb but I would fingerlock and play at a level far below what I was at previously. It fucked up my mental and made me more toxic so I decided to just do something else for a while which led me to playing osu!taiko which I found much more fun to learn and get the hang of. After getting to the 3s range on osu!taiko doing full alt I came back to std and now my tapping is so much less of a concern to me. It feels like I can play at a higher level then I could mouse only and I can focus on just getting rhythms or speed just right for the maps I want to play instead of fingerlocking because I am so focused on my tapping.
Hyperfocusing has helped me on very particular things but in general I've been an allrounder minus DT and speed, hyperfocusing on DT was inefficient at learning execution but in the long run it did help..I can read 10.3+ on demand vs only being able to on maps I was extremely familiar with before (which also really helped). For speed it didn't really matter too much since I already had everything with speed other than stamina so hyperfocusing barely felt like hyperfocusing because my endurance was the only real agenda so the mappool I used was fairly diverse. I'm a 5 digit but I'm not embarassed of any particular skill lacking at this point, I try to have every skillset around the same SR with some leeway since SR kinda blows.
You literally described my current osu gameplay on the dot. I am super inconsistent, and all i play is speed jump maps(Still poorly i might add). I cant play anything below ar10 because it seems like snail speed. Gonna try this strat and see if it does anything for me.
this also goes for osu mania. i have recently started playing 7k and i play 2-3 star songs, i used to only play 2 different songs. I started downloading more songs and started playing them. Thanks to that my accuarcy has gotten way better
f2 is your friend. If you can’t pass something throw NF on and do your best. Try to play maps around or above your general star range. Don’t neglect 3mod and learning high ar, thank me later.
I don't really play anymore but something I used to do was play tournament map pools and compare my sightread score on scorev2 with other players in that tournament for improvement, granted I didn't do it often but I'm sure it can apply as a good improvement exercise. (keep in mind most players practice the mappools beforehand so it's not meant to be an accurate competition of sorts, the comparison should just give you a guideline)
Yeah definitely happened with me. Disclaimer: I'm a 6 digit so yeah take of that what you will. So I started the game obsessed with speed. I spent literally 5 months spamming speed maps and shit, leading to shit consistency and aim, but I could stream 160 bpm (as a newbie, which is fine). But then I started to play mp a lot more than singleplayer, where I couldnt spam speed maps or stream maps, and within 4 months I saw an improvement of 60 bpm (I can do 220 on a good day now), along with much much better aim and consistency. So yeah balance is definitely just as important as you highlighted.
spazza becoming the next miraie with the odd video endtime.
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rip miraie bro
I FUCKING see it
@@Cruelty07 *We* FUCKING see it
"play as many different maps as you can"
me: *proceeds trying to derust hdhr skills, try to ez, try to taiko, improve my skills on both Mania and Catch while still having the main mode std*
proceeds to derust my social skills
@@boremy_ proceeds to derust my nintendo ds to play the original osu! game
*Proceeds to learn 1k mania, 9k mania, 10k mania, 18k mania, 20k mania (in Osu!Lazer)*
Well, basically im doing that :D
tbh i heard that mania can actually make you better at stamina and especially finger control, tho i'm not sure if that's easier to do than actually training those skill on std
"Let's say ur a 6 digit watching this. yes
Lets say u play alot of jump maps. yes....
Lets say u like vtubers. ......."
Haha definitely not me....
haha....
And the freedom dive skin .....
@@extrv4257 man no way UA-cam just translated haha into lol
@@dalanding3391 yeah the translation's kinda crappy right now, give it time, i'm sure it's going to be better
i love how the video is 7:27 in length
Yeah, also WYSI, btw.
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@@paranjayadwivedi845 what happened between you and hentai-sama?
idk why but i see 7:26
@@myazr you are on mobile
I had a similar experience when I played only stream maps for a month, and in every session I saw myself getting worse and worse at streaming and that really made me lose motivation and when I came back to farm maps I noticed that I lost my ability to read jumps and took me few weeks to get the aim I once had.
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Your video perfectly describes my experience when i tried improving on 1 skillset. Although i did feel i was improving it wasn't fun and my other skills like aim was going worse. Got back on playing whatever maps i like and my improvement was more balanced. Yes that 1 skillset aren't getting as good as my main skillset but it's still improving with the rest without the others getting worse.
I remember playing stream maps for 2 weeks straight and the moment I went on a simple jump map I felt like I was a new player again.
I agree with the general premise of the video, when I was newer I couldn't stream at all and I distinctly remember taking about a month to play like 90% stream maps, however, I think overexerting myself on stream maps was more counterintuitive if anything, once I started to slow down a bit and mainly just integrated streams more into what I was playing rather than having them dominate everything I played, I felt my streams got better more passively and it felt a lot more rewarding because I was still practicing other things.
Usually, when people are bad at a certain skillset it's just because they don't play it enough; for example, frequently I see people say "I can only aim but can't stream", but then all they play is aim and if try streams they either go for something to hard, feel unrewarded and quit afterwards, or they do this, they hyperfocus on that skill and it makes them so mentally fatigued because they aren't used to playing poorly or they just feel like they aren't improving fast enough.
this was very true for me. sometime in 2018 I decided i desperately needed to fix my finger control, as i was an aim player with absolutely no regard to accuracy, (global acc around 92%) i ended up hyperfocusing as depicted in the video, and don't get me wrong, my ability to play various maps with tricky patterns and overall finger control improved astronomically, but also my aim and consistency has decreased, astronomically. I could play with high accuracy, whilst my highest combo usually resides around 1/4th or 1/6th (usually on longer maps) of the maps total combo. Currently working towards enjoy game & pushing all of the above.
ya i stopped playing dt for a month and now its weird
Honestly, I’d suggest each session to be a different skillset rather than all of the skillsets in one session.
It’s helped me a lot more than putting everything together as I just don’t perform as well doing everything together.
Finding the perfect balance will make your pathway much clearer imo.
(6 digit advice who felt this is really good)
i have the same experience. Also i found out that i'm constantly 1 day playing at the highest level ever (for me) and then for 2 days i really need to just forget about this game. then i come back good as i was 2 days before.
I don't like it tho, so when i really want to play anyway i open it and KNOW i won't score anything good so i play lower stars maps. i think it's better than play my usual and do really bad in them - get low% and making bad habits.
i'm only 230K tho. i'm improving pretty fast tho (i think?) my nick: g2faker. also i started playing on mouse in the right hand and keyboard left hand and now i'm playing tablet in left hand and keyboard in right hand. it's pretty tough lol took me fckin year to get used to that but aiming with weak hand was even harder. I was the mythical SPINOFF player XD
That is probably the most effective way to improve
I remember watching Kariyu's video where he did that and improved a fuckton and thinking about doing it myself
It's just like gym fr, stream day, aim day, dt day, and etc.
1:40 he stated literally everything completely accurately what i normally do when i play osu! LMAO most of the maps that were playing in the background were what i used to practice streaming, even the freakin btmc skin he used for the gameplay. That's scary lmao
Hey man, thanks a lot for the shoutout 👍👍
"No one wants to log into Osu and suck at it for 2 hours"
As a new player I log in for 5 hours and suck a lot at it but it's so addictively fun :D
SAMEEE, also its been 2 years since u posted that comment, did u improve?
@@sweetheartangellic i did!! I don’t play too many video games in general but since this comment I broke through 100k, learned Hard Rock and DT reading, started playing tech maps, learned to stream, improved my aim control etc.
I don’t really play for PP or farm but my finger and aim control has improved massively over time as well as my aim in general
@@noahmoody4568 thats great to hear! Youre giving a 7 digit (me) a lot of hope haha
This made me feel better. I don't really like playing 1 map over and over and I tend to switch all the time. I thought it was a bad habit of mine but I guess not!
Thank you for the remainder. I've always heard that hyperfocusing was really bad, but I didn't follow them because I always believed that "I'm different, it's okay". I was the 6-digit who had okay aim, and was heavily struggling on streams, and so I downloaded a whole bunch of maps infamous for deathstreams and spaced streams. I went along for a month of two of just pure streams, neglecting my aim. I was at a point where I could deathstream 200bpm for about 10 seconds, but couldn't prolong anything below 170 for more than 2 seconds. I was naturally frustrated and took a long break, around 3 months. I recently had the motivation to play osu when my girlfriend opened it up infront of me, playing some easy farm maps. So I played again and grinded, and without realization I was hyperfocusing on streams again. I will stop that now, since it's just a load of unproductive horsecrap.
I'm a mania player but hyperfocusing still applies. I always have a really hard time being balanced in all skillsets, because there are simply a lot. (chordjack, speedjack, tech, speed, jumpstream, handstream, and also LN dumps and LN release maps) What I found the most helpful was just to have a routine in my sessions. I would start off with accuracy training, move to chordjacks once I warmed up, then gradually picked one or two other skillsets to work on for the day.
this is exactly my current problem in improving for last 2 months, i have hyperfocused a lot at stamina and speed and completely forgot about everything else. now i know what should i do. Thank you!
imagine hyperfocusing on a rhythm game
Couldn't be us
imagine hyper rythming on a focus game
@@handsomebear. galaxy brain
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thanks spazza very good video
I used to not be able to read under ar10.3 at all, however, when I started playing nomod, I did not only start enjoying the game more, I improved both in nomod and at DT faster than I initially did
1:40 it felt like you were talking directly to me, i'm genuinely scared
oh my god this video actually tackled the issue I've been experiencing for nearly 2 years, I've ONLY been focusing most of my sessions in stream heavy maps amd neglecting other types of maps. I've always wondered why I cannot push myself streaming past 160 bpm. With this new information I can maybe still have a chance to reach my goals in this game efficiently, thanks!
bro i have done exactly the same thing. like 2 months ago i decided to start improving at streams and like 5 of 6 maps i play a day are stream maps. its gonna change now after watching this video but even tho i played them so much i can barely stream any bpm consistently. before i started the grinding there was one day when i went godmode and streamed 180 for like 60~ notes. but i have just been getting worse and worse. sry for long reply but just wanted to tell it xd
This is why I'm still subscribed to you even though I only play Etterna and haven't played osu seriously in several months; because your advice is super helpful for rhythm games in general. Thank you for doing God's work.
7:26 when you don't see it pt. 2 :pensive:
I am actually a 6-digit, harumachi clover-spamming, vtuber-loving osu player and i totally agree with the play everything over hyperfocusing on one skill. I started getting into the game last August and the highest difficulty I can play right now are 3* maps though I can clear a few easy 4* ones. The small victories you achieve are also very helpful in motivating you to improve just like how I recently learned how to play on hidden.
One second from greatness. one second.
ive been hyperfocusing for like a few weeks now and i started practising only streams and stuffs then i farmed and got ranks,but after a while ive been stuck at the same rank and when i played maps that were supposed to be easy for me i would fail terribly at it,and get hundreds of MINUS ranks and when i shitmissed i would retry spam like a fucking idiot.
watching this vid finally made me realise my mistakes :/
I figured this out like a few months ago, i improved significantly faster in these few months than in the past year.
6:15 I had a revelation earing this ... i really came to the conclusion that it's not about how hard you try but more how long you try ( obviously but even though everyone knows it no one wants to acknowledge it like the play more thing ) ... So ye playing something a little bit every single day is better than once hard in a week because you're building up from what you just did the other day while the opposit is also about repairing what the time damaged ...and hearing this led me to think that it's not just about the game overall that this applies to but really all aspects of the thing you want to improve at ... I really found this video helpful so thanks :)
Honestly, this advice can be taken to every single game you want to get good at. I've always "hyperfocused" on what I did wrong trying to look for balance, I really liked this piece of advice
hey there! a tournament player here. dude's straight up spitting facts, been a stream/speed/tech main for couple years now and started thinking about finally improving my aim and honestly, just force-shoving aim consistency and ez sessions didn't achieve much + made me regress on streams, speed and tech maps lol. remember to at least keep your level at your main skillsets, having to derust them constantly is always going to be painful
Recently school started back up so I can’t play osu as much as I did over the summer. I’m a low 6 digit and used to play DT farming, and HDDT all day long... but now I can only get on a few times a week, so I play a lot of diverse maps just for fun. Even though I’m playing less, I’m seeing improvement everywhere just because I’m playing more map sets without huperfocusing or a goal on getting PP. Stamina and streaming have seen big jumps since the summer. Its really nice to see, and also much more enjoyable than logging on and trying to fc a sotarks map :3
I was once playing osu, literally not concentrating on the game, but thinking about something else, and my mind come back to me finishing the song...
I remember when i come back from my break and tried to hit 5 digit again,i just focus entirely on farm maps. After getting past 5 digit,i tried to play long maps and my skill is gone. After that i tried to play every maps and every mod combination. After doing this for 2-3 week,i finally gained all of my skill back
so thats why i was improving so fast from the start of my journey
After watching this video, it does make more sense now on why I notice bigger improvements when I join in pub lobbies. It's because of the host rotate and playing different beatmaps each time that it made me improve in most aspects, while also having fun.
Thanks man very interesting and helpful video!
literally having the hyperfocus era, can't hit anything, shitmissing everywhere, this video gave me the realisation that I have been trying to learn speed and stamina for way too long, and my aim and dt skills have derusted badly
Doesn't matter what I do, I will never improve, because I'm stuck with this 50kg body that can't do anything, not even play osu normally. My shoulders are fucked, my wrists are too, every joint pops and I can't play properly. My fingers are too long and even when using A and X to tap it doesn't feel good, my aim is still the same it was when I started playing with tablet 2 years ago and my eyes are getting worse and worse. I even forget muscle memory I've been using for weeks, I was playing 220-280 streams 3 days ago, for weeks, took a small break, come back, and can't hit a triple accurately
Fuck this shit
yeah just nailed it!! I am gonna definitely pay even more attention to variety thx spazza
thanks spazza. ive been hyperfocusing on streams and was just depressed the whole time because i could barely notice improvement
hi robbie
I cant hyperfocus, everytime i try to focus on improving on 1 skillset i end up getting bored and end up playing anything i want
same
thx man it helped a lot.....a few months back (when i was 700k) I used to play 4.8*~ maps.......there were 2-3 maps that i used to always mind block in and i used to spam retry on it.....this made me almost lose all my reading ability and tapping ability.......then a day later when i was getting tired of this problem, i got ur vid on recommends......can say that it truly helped a lot....thx otherwise i would have most probably quit osu..... currently ranked 189k with 5-6 200pp chokes
Damn that light vs heavy thing is real as hell, theres a mapper who makes all his maps have a red circle with a trail and whenever i play his maps with the skin on it just hits different
Great advise I will try this out right away.
I'm on the hyperfocus side and I'm improving really slowly with a lot of setbacks, even tho I'm putting a lot of effort into it. I guess maybe I should try this. Currently decided to not play for a week cause last 2 days of osu were just trash and a break might help me. At first I hyperfocused on DT like you, reading, acc consistency, all turned into garbage. Then I hyperfocused on low ar, acc/consistency, lost all my speed, struggle to read high ar. It is frustrating. I randomly improved at acc and 180bpm jumping and then kinda only played maps like that for a week cause the improvemt from it was fun, I was able to play better than ever, but then I lost even more speed and my "precise" reading was lost (since I guess I didnt look at objects the same way when I played all those fullscreen jump maps) and when I tried to repractice snappy aim/reading and speed, all skillsets kinda just crashed within 1 day of practicing it and now all of them suck. Osu is hard...
This is literally whats happening to me recently, i wanted to be able to play dt and become an speed player but i ended up hyperfocusing only on dt, now i can play dt with high AR but cant stream, cant play high cs even though i was an HR player, and end up overaiming or having bad accuracy on low ar maps, thank you for the advice spazza gonna put it on pratice
was doing the same as a high 5 digit, luckily figured out that i have to practice streams, nomod and hardrock aswell to improve overall and i did. yes it did hurt my dt skill but once i got back into dt i derusted v quickly and now im pretty happy with everything; what i wanted to say, just go practice everything and dont be upset if u dont perform on dt as good as u did before, u will get back all ur skill eventually
I dedicated a whole 2 months to practicing speed and streaming as I was really bad in that area, I played nothing else. And it definitely payed off, I noticed a slight difference in my overall skill but it came back very quick so everyone is different I guess
thanks for the video lol, found out i was hyperfocusing on streams and am the 6 digit example you listed
This video was great for me. I’m a 6 digit and was getting frustrated that I wasn’t ranking up quickly because I play so much variety. Ez one day, flashlight, hdhr, hd, nomod. I was considering just dropping everything and trying to learn double time farm to rank up till I saw this video. Thanks!
i'm 6 digit and i love streams, that helped me a lot to play some jump maps tech etc
"I should have realized all I needed to do was play something else, but no, I kept pushing hoping to eventually break through the wall and never did."
This perfectly describes all 6 years of my osu career. I always improved the fastest when playing for fun since I would play all map types and would multi constantly to support this. But whenever I went to grind out a specific skill set or even farm, I would hyperfocus, become worse overall, then become depressed and hit a wall. I hit my peak rank when I played for enjoyment and when I switched to focus nomod/hr for tournaments, ended up becoming worse and essentially quit.
ty for mega brain insight
Personally I’ve never really hyper focused any one skill set. I always bounce from map to map never really retrying unless I find the map later on in my session. So while my friends I’ve excelled in specific mods like hr only or dt I’ve just gotten decent at every other thing. But I still can’t read ar8. I’d rather take it in the ass than play ar8-( 6 digit )
lol i remember watching the fool moon night video and I never really bothered to check you. The algorithm allowed me to be here and ur content seems good. Imma drop a sub for ya
I had a weird experience where, after a lot of inconsistency for a year or two, I just started playing 4 stars and below for free S and SS ranks, including 4-5 minute long maps. After two or three weeks of that, mixed with the occasional harder map, and I went from becoming so inconsistent that I couldn't even break 200pp, to getting my first 300, on a 5 minute map too (Granted my top play was already around 280, I just hadn't gotten anywhere close to it for over a year). It might not work for everyone, but taking time to go back and spam SS ranks over a few weeks to months really built my consistency up, and my other skills followed.
I can only agree. Some time ago I played a lot of streams and I wasnt that bad at it. I could semi-consistently stream 200 BPM and below. But then I wanted to improve more at jumps and low AR. During this phase I havent played stream maps. Now I even do triplets pretty unconsistent.
Thank you very much for the advice, it will help me a lot.
I know this video is years old but honestly felt like its all true. Everytime ive focused on one or 2 maps trying my best to full clear them i felt barely any improvement. but when I was just playing everything for fun I found when I went back to these maps I was managing to clear them with ease and was very surprised with myself.
BRO I’ve been hyper focusing for 3 years just focusing on streaming high bpm reading high AR and across screen jumps, I neglected all the skills I needed to be a great player all around, this is why my whole play style is so inconsistent. One day I can stream the next day I finger lock everything, I’m always limit testing thinking that playing high star rated maps will make me a top player, this video made me realize a lot about myself, and I’ll be trying to implement some of your strategies in my next session. THANKS SPAZZA +1 sub and like 👍
Really helped, thx! :)
I'm a 6digit and stream maps are my main focus as for what to get better at. So when I first get on osu! I start with stream maps (cause that's when ur at your peak pretty much) like tower of heaven (cause its easy lol) and I try focusing on flow aim and stamina. When I start to notice that I'm getting more inconsistent, I take a 5 minute break to get water and talk on discord for a bit and then I play other random maps. I try to play farm and get a lidl pp, which never goes well, and then I switch to finger control type maps like meikaruza and I practice my finger control and alternating. Then after that I go to longer maps that are fun like onion, confusion, kanshou, stuff like that, trying to build consistency over long periods of time. This isn't some sort of training regiment but thats usually what my play sessions look like and they mostly last for about 2 and a half hours cause then I start playing like poop and before I start to bash myself on my poor playing ability, I get off the game and wind down by watching some UA-cam. Preferably something that isn't osu! Because every osu! UA-camr is better than me obviously and that's not good for the mental lol.
Edit: forgot to mention that I'm starting to play mods like HDHR. I'm not hyper focusing on this mod combo but whenever I feel bored, I start light with a farm map that I previously fc'd with nm, and I try to fc with hdhr or just hd. Its helping me a bit more with reading. Also since the OD is high, I can get better tapping or whatever it's called
love the vids keep it up:D
What a good video. Such a motivating way to talk. Adhd approved, kept my attention 100% throughout the video.
Wolf became the highest rated player and a reading/acc god simply because he had and still has the habit of literally playing all the maps in existance.
Reading is the basis of everything, and if you play a wide variety of maps then your reading will most certainly improve
I really relate to hyperfocusing making me worse. I had many periods where I focused mainly on 1 skillset (mostly just Precision, Aim, Streams, High AR) and the more I played them I felt like I made progress from where I initially was but I still felt like I sucked everytime I just logged on and played. Like I'd go offbeat on every 180bpm stream, I would just shitmiss all the time, and I would mash every AR10.33 burst I tried hitting. I changed my mentality and just tried playing a bunch of random stuff and it really started helping me out. I took a liking to alt and tech maps and I noticed after playing them for a while and coming back my finger control on streams and flow aim improved alot. I was also able to read high ar better and my singletap speed also improved from 250 to 270bpm and my 16 note burst also got faster. Overall I'm still kinda bad but I'm better than I was before w/ a better mentality so I'd say this kinda worked for me.
Spazza this video was very detailed I like it, it will help hard stuck players
0:18 skin? that skin looks clean
Or summarized to one sentence: "Just play more"
Hey loved the video, quick question, what skin do you use? Its beautiful.
Holy shit, I have been waiting for someone to talk about this!!! I have experienced this. While I'm a shit 5 digit, I have over 1k hours at this game so I tried every type of maps. I always played every kind of map in every session but lately I focused on spaced low bpm streams (demetori maps specifically) while I improved at those, I noticed my jump skills have decreased so much.
The only problem is I can't play every type of map in a session because I don't have much time for osu! But oh well
I know im a bit late but I think the best way for players to improve in osu! is very similar to a gym workout. For gym workouts you'll have a balance in the fact that you work on say chest for 1 day, then the next day to legs, then the next is abs and so on. I think its similar to how you should work on your skillsets for osu, train x skillset for maybe 1 day or 1 session, the next time try a different skillset. Along with this you should also have rest days to let your muscle memory actually soak in what you've learnt.
i just cant find my comfortable tab size and grip, like i feel like i focus on that but at the same time i feel its super important to start getting better
damn, i'm literally 6 digit hyperfocusing on learning finger control on 170 bpm map, bursts, funny patterns on 5.2~ star maps, it's been like 2 months since i started lelearning bursts and stuff, but my progress doesn't feel great, i've lost my aim and reading cz most of those map don't even require having aim, today was my longest session in my whole playtime, and i've played EVERYTHING in terms on skillset, fast jumps,low ar 2014 maps,slider intense maps, tech maps, even streams, that was actually fun
To be honest i too had similar experience because i was trying to get better stamina and get better at streams in general because i realized, that i was playing only farm maps and my only strong skill was jumps. I just played on and off streams, became kinda worse at jumps and when i noticed that i was getting bad at both i decided to try and balance all of my skill sets so now i am playing stream maps, DT, tech maps, sometimes EZ, other osu! modes and etc and i think i start to see a difference which is positive.
Thanks for making this video.
I also appllied your info into my project sekai gameplay :v
This really helps as I'm stuck at 350k ranking with no idea how to improve (especially my acc,speed and reading)
I am trying to learn HR. I struggle with smaller circles as they cripple my reading. When I start playing osu, I play whatever I want until I feel warmed up. Then, I put on HR and play a slightly easier diff than I would normally play so I don't feel like a complete noob and can keep my motivation up. (I don't see why I would learn HR on songs I struggle with in nomod.) I play for about an hour and then switch to playing whatever I want. This way, I don't get discouraged, and I can actually see small improvements.
1:44 he was right at everything... especially that last part
Makes sense because playing one thing u will just wont improve on something else which is very important for a skill set
The hyper focus V. playing everything is real. For me at least. It’s probably just another way of saying “play more”. At first I mostly played maps I liked because of the music but were mostly difficult to go through since making many mistakes would lead to the game ending. I decided to play multiplayer out of curiosity and I after many sessions of playing different maps, I noticed that I improved so much that I was able to pass maps that were difficult for me before playing in multiplayer lobbies
This actually helps a lot, cause I only have around 70 hrs on the game, and am a 6 digit, around 400k. I dropped like 200k ranks in 1 day just farming with dt and then had recently just been really worn out and getting mad when I mess up easy/ slower maps. I noticed it myself and just want to focus of playing and progressing normally without forcing myself to feel the need to farm. Although it definitely got my mechanics better I would go way too fast on slow maps
damn it I've already been doing this one. Pressing F2 and only playing random maps (mostly gotten from multis or the recently ranked maps page) is like the most fun this in osu! imo
I did the same because I have too many maps to play and still have thousands waiting to be imported
I'm a 5 digit that mainly plays speed and aim maps, and didnt really know how to stream until a little recently. And all i did was play freedom dive + blue zenith max diff and tried to at least pass it and after a couple days of straight up playing stream maps i started realising that i was becoming worse. So yea make sure we have a little bit of everything guys :)
"stop hyperfocusing"
me and my adhd will take a step out now.
2:45 this is happening to me! Thanks for the video
I dont believe the video length is on accident
I just use the F2 technique, playing basically whatever map gets randomized once, then move to the next
I am the type of guy who will literally NEVER laugh out loud when watching any video. But for some odd reason, the "what de hell" at 5:58 made me uncontrollably laugh for some time
This reminds me of the time I began farming as a 6 digit and became so frustrated when the best I could do was four star maps. It took me a while to get out of that hole.
yeah, back in the days i realized that my streaming skills despite being a mid 4 digit were on par with a 6 digit, so i started playing stream maps non-stop. Today i realized that was a HUGE mistake, as i may have went from not being able to stream 180 for 1 min to fcing we luv lama long stream, but in exchange my jumping went from mid 4 digit to 6 digit xD
I did, hyperfocus on speed until I realize my offset was fucked up and then I just started replying everything
I used to be mouse only and wanted to learn how to play m+kb but I would fingerlock and play at a level far below what I was at previously.
It fucked up my mental and made me more toxic so I decided to just do something else for a while which led me to playing osu!taiko which I found much more fun to learn and get the hang of.
After getting to the 3s range on osu!taiko doing full alt I came back to std and now my tapping is so much less of a concern to me. It feels like I can play at a higher level then I could mouse only and I can focus on just getting rhythms or speed just right for the maps I want to play instead of fingerlocking because I am so focused on my tapping.
Hyperfocusing has helped me on very particular things but in general I've been an allrounder minus DT and speed, hyperfocusing on DT was inefficient at learning execution but in the long run it did help..I can read 10.3+ on demand vs only being able to on maps I was extremely familiar with before (which also really helped). For speed it didn't really matter too much since I already had everything with speed other than stamina so hyperfocusing barely felt like hyperfocusing because my endurance was the only real agenda so the mappool I used was fairly diverse. I'm a 5 digit but I'm not embarassed of any particular skill lacking at this point, I try to have every skillset around the same SR with some leeway since SR kinda blows.
You literally described my current osu gameplay on the dot. I am super inconsistent, and all i play is speed jump maps(Still poorly i might add). I cant play anything below ar10 because it seems like snail speed. Gonna try this strat and see if it does anything for me.
I am happy to know the fact that I never spam 1 type of map so it’s why I improve fast it’s because I balance very well my play time
Question, is playing old maps from 2007-2012 gonna improve me from how great they are?
this also goes for osu mania. i have recently started playing 7k and i play 2-3 star songs, i used to only play 2 different songs. I started downloading more songs and started playing them. Thanks to that my accuarcy has gotten way better
f2 is your friend. If you can’t pass something throw NF on and do your best. Try to play maps around or above your general star range. Don’t neglect 3mod and learning high ar, thank me later.
I don't really play anymore but something I used to do was play tournament map pools and compare my sightread score on scorev2 with other players in that tournament for improvement, granted I didn't do it often but I'm sure it can apply as a good improvement exercise.
(keep in mind most players practice the mappools beforehand so it's not meant to be an accurate competition of sorts, the comparison should just give you a guideline)
Has anyone else noticed that the video runtime is 7:27 WYSI
Yeah definitely happened with me. Disclaimer: I'm a 6 digit so yeah take of that what you will.
So I started the game obsessed with speed. I spent literally 5 months spamming speed maps and shit, leading to shit consistency and aim, but I could stream 160 bpm (as a newbie, which is fine). But then I started to play mp a lot more than singleplayer, where I couldnt spam speed maps or stream maps, and within 4 months I saw an improvement of 60 bpm (I can do 220 on a good day now), along with much much better aim and consistency. So yeah balance is definitely just as important as you highlighted.
this applies to everything.
"pls enjoy game" -very wise man
dam this was rly good thx man