BEST SWINGWEIGHT TECHNIQUE I'VE TRIED?
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- There are many ways to add weight to a golf club. In this video I try a brand new method I've never used or seen before. Is it the best of all possible options?
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AJ- you are not afraid to step out of the box. Ingenuity is good a good thing. Keep us tuned in. Thanks,
I just tried this method with .355 shafts and the .355 weights, and did not need to grind down the lip on the weights. According to golfworks, the .355 weights also fit .335 graphite shafts so they will fit loose in .355. Basically only the lip keeps it from going into the shaft, and epoxy will fill in the rest once installed. So I just put epoxy on the bottom half of the weight and was able to ramrod it to the bottom of shaft pretty easily
Nicely done! Never thought about doing it this way, but I will definitely try it out! Thanks for showing us your idea!
Tungsten putty instead of powder is an option too. It is easier to make sure all the weight goes to the bottom of the shaft. A little bit harder to clean upon disassembly though.
I’ve used Tungsten power without removing the grip. Using a thin funnel I made I can pour the powder then use the rod with a cork ( no epoxy) and seems to do the trick. Thx for your post
I find that lead tape works best for me, added to the right spot can really enhance the feel! Brass & tungsten down the shaft or into the tip has the potential to change/mute the feel and potentially close the face at impact depending on the amount.
thanks for all of your videos. I always learn something good.
This is a great idea and while I've not done this before, if you need a "ramrod", I used an alignment rod or drive way marker for inserting dampening inserts, so as long as it fits all the way down the shaft, I would think this would work.
Excellent method!! Have been doing this for years !!!👍👍👍. Thanks!
Hello AJ, I'm trying to build a set of irons using graphite shafts. I am using new uncut shafts that I am going to have to cut and add weight to them so they can all have the same swing weight and I was wondering what would be the best way to do this. I see a lot of videos with steel shafts but I haven't seen any using graphite and I was hoping you could instruct me on the best way to do this, thanks for your time and your great videos..
This should help.
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Question… when the original shaft was installed, didn’t epoxy work its way up the inside of the shaft and wouldn’t that vary depending on how much epoxy was used? So the weight may not sit in the same spot on all the clubs. Is that a concern?
Maybe. I would probably use the ram rod to measure the depth of all the clubs you were considering to see how much epoxy or even existing tip weight is changing the depth.
Like with powder, I would test first before putting in the cork.
If it sits a bit higher up in the tip, then you probably need a bit more weight to get the same swingweight effect.
Tigers used wooded dowels down his iron shafts for years, great trick done by a few players over the years.
The only issue I could maybe foresee with this is some clubs will have glue in the shaft relatively deep, Callaway’s from the factory come to mind in that regard, so im curious if clubs like that wouldn’t work as well with this method. Cool stuff tho!
Great work AJ
Keep it up
good one Aj
would adding lead tape to the hosel be a quick way to achieve the same effect? i'm trying to experiment around with swing weight, and I found an iron that "feels nice" to me. And I want to match the rest of the iron set with that.
Hosel would work or just back of the head.
A little of topic, but how do you feel about using these brass weights with the flange in the butt of the club for counter weighting. Seems like it would be a cheaper and more flexible system than the commercial counterweights.
Seems like that would not be very stable and secure in the butt end of the club.
Chances are they will come out at some point or start to rattle.
There are butt weights that fit snugly, that are not very expensive.
If I add 1/2 inch to a golf ion would the swing weights still change the same 2-3 points? if the material in the butt end of the golf club is Metal because it's basically changing the swing weight from the butt end of the golf club no? I just don't understand how the swing weight could be the same if you're adding more weight to the butt end of the golf club
Good info
Great option!
Enjoying the varied content. Will that portable compressor be ok to remove grips that have beein installed with solvent?
I am 1 for 10 in removing grips with compressed air when installed with tape and solvent so probably shouldn't ask me. I prefer a grip removal tool.
Hopefully you can answer this cause I can't find an answer anywhere. I jsut bought some wilson staff model CB's, I like the shafts in my last set so I took both sets of shafts off and to my shock and horror in both sets,some shafts have these brass plugs/weights and some don't,any clue why this is?lol FYI, love your content.
Those are tip weights used to balance out the feel of the set. The ones with brass were evidently lighter feeling during assembly so extra weight was added to match the rest of the set.
@@EFGMC THANK you thank you. I was freaking out when I saw those. I ended up just taking them all out and haven't even noticed any difference but boy,them were some tense moments.Thanks for the responce and love your content,you have made tinkering with my clubs so much fun and stress free(ish)haha
What is the performance of a club when installing a .355 TT into a .370 hosel . Stiffer or softer feel ?
Great information. Does a tip weight have to be hollow? Thinking of using a nail inside my graphite shaft.
No, but you do want enough space between the stem of the weight and the inside shaft wall to allow for epoxy to pass through and relieve pressure. Otherwise the shaft will want to push back out of the hosel.
AJ - Does adding that weight to the bottom of the shaft, add weight to the back side of the head and cause it to close faster? Like adding lead tape to the heel of a driver?
In line with the shaft, the weight is considered neutral.
@@EFGMC Thank you.
Really liked the light weigh/flex driver shaft video, both the shafts you used obviously not the autoflex are hard o find in the uk, any others suggestions?
Going to try this with Fujikura Vista Pro but that should work. Also have heard people using the Grafalloy Prolaunch light weight light flex shafts.
Great video. Question, is there a difference between using a 3 wood shaft in driver and cutting driver shaft down. Would using a 3 wood shaft get the same results. Thank you
Most shafts used in 3 woods have no tipping just like a driver so the only difference is the final play length, assuming it's not some sort of fairway wood specific shaft.
Why would I want to add mass to the neck of the club rather than right behind where the head impacts the ball? Pretty clubs vs lower scores does not seem to be a difficult question for anyone other than the most OCD? What am I missing here?
Hello , Can I also use this method when shortening the driver shaft? best regards
No, I would not use a tip weight with graphite. Not to mention that the graphite tip weights have a head and a stem and you'd only be able to get the stem into the base of the shaft. It will also likely cause a shaft failure.
Rust at the bottom of the steel shaft compromise the bond possibly? There often a little corroded inside after a year or two of use?
Maybe. Older shafts might cause issues.
Question… if I cut my 6 & 7 irons down to 8 iron length… will tip weights help keep my distances correctly? Or is swing weight different then head weight? Thanks!
Loft adjustments will likely be needed to get the right gapping. Tip weighting might help make the feel more consistent so that you make consistent contact, but we not really change the distances by itself.
This method works great with steel shaft but for graphite shaft you won't be able to rework the swing weight with set epoxy.
I was surprised to learn my Cobra F7 One Length irons all had different scale weights on my cheapo-depot swingweight setup. The low was about 221g and the high was 235g. I decided to try to make all the clubs about 230g. I couldn't figure out how to lower the weight on the 2 heavy clubs, I wasn't going to take a grinder to them. (Now I think maybe I could add a counterweight?) For the "too light" clubs I wrapped lead tape around the low point on the hosel. I know this is kind of ugly, but it was easy to adjust. Am I crazy or does this have the same effect as tip weighting the shaft?
Lead tape down by the head is doing the same thing as tip weights. I would not counter balance though unless you plan on doing the entire set.
Would it be beneficial to also ram an epoxy coated cork to keep the weight in place?
Don't think it would hurt though it does change the feel a little.
I tried your method of tungsten power with a cork on an Aerotech graphite shaft could not get the cork down far enough. I bought the iron corks from golf works. So this method won’t work on graphite shaft, unless you cut the corks down?
Graphite shafts have a different (smaller) internal diameter. I’ve never heard of anyone corking them until this post. My guess would be ‘yes’.
There are some very small /thin corks that will work for graphite shafts.
@@rogergee8470 Do you know where I can buy some? Thanks
Does adding weight to the bottom of the shaft change the center of gravity of the club and the sweet spot?
Weight in line with the shaft will have minimal impact on the head. Also we are usually adding say 6g on average to a head that weighs average of 270g ie 2-3% weight change won't have much impact regardless where it sits. Drivers can be influenced more because they start out lighter and have a much larger area to add weight to.
Any time you add weight down the hosel (solid or powder) you are shifting the sweet spot slightly towards the heel. For this reason lead tape CENTERED on the back of the club is the best way to ensure that doesn't happen, HOWEVER; placing it high or low on the clubhead can move the CG ever so slightly up or down.
I got my irons from fairway jockey and they are super heavy (d4). Is there anyway to reverse the weight?
Depends what the specs are and how they were put together. You could shorten them 1/4 inch and get them close to D2.
@@EFGMC 1/2 longer due to my height. I got the pxg gen 6. I just don’t know how they achieved the weight. I was hoping like the video you showed with the brass weight
@@paulrachetta935 Won't know for sure unless you break them down or email Fairway Jockey and see if they know.
What is the best range i can get for good swingweight ?
Can you tell me , if is between c5- d5 something like that?
At one time you could buy lead rope that worked for this. I know Golfworks carried it but I am not sure who has it now.
How does this work at graphite shafts?
Still working on a graphite shaft option. This won't work because the inside tip diameter is so small that very little weight will fit, and the metal could cause a pinch point where the shaft could crack.
Why is the u groove not a actual u shape
I cut 3 inches off of my g25 driver. How much weight should I add to the head to bring back the swing weight
You moved it 18 swing weight points down by cutting it 3 inches. It would take 36 grams added to the head to bring it back where it was.
@@Matthew-of9sp
Ii have herd that Ping counter balances their shafts. Does this complicate things at all?
And where should I add the weight to maximize forgiveness? Most likely lead tape.
I also just picked a used set of 425 irons. Green dot and would like to lengthen then myself by a inch. Graphite shafts. Any challenges there?
Thanks...
@@Matthew-of9sp 2 grams per swing weight point is a rule of thumb and is dependent on club length. It is based on a club 38”-40” long. Shorter clubs need more than 2 grams per swing weight and longer clubs less. Assuming that the G25 driver was 45” long and cut down to 42”, 32 grams of weight would have be added to the head to restore the swing weight.
@@golfish8589 counterbalanced would have lowered the original starting swing weight. Add weight to the rear of the head for max forgiveness (more launch and spin) or to the heel to promote more draw, or the toe to promote more fade. Extending graphite shafts requires the right components, whereas with steel there are some different options available. I have my own swingweight scale as well as clamps and bearings to ‘spine’ all my shafts. The ability to check and spec all of your own stuff and find what you like and what you don’t from a feel standpoint is a game changer imo. I figured most of it out the hard way, but channels like the mobile clubmaker and built by b mason have a ton of great tips and content to help with the learning curve.
well the option of removing the weight would be out of the question after epoxying then.
YOU have( not added) weight to the "head" of the golf club! when the HEAD comes from China they are each weighed based upon the casting process, they can vary! Putting powder into the shaft makes the SHAFT heavy at the end of the shaft, like putting weight at the beginning of the shaft to make it feel like its heavier at the grip side. When you add "tape" you are adding weight to the actual head of the club. The Great Tom Wisekoft added Lead tape to everyone of his clubs!
yes true' whatever you do but you make clubs look ugly after .
AJ how much do the tip weights weigh in a off the shelf stock set of irons ??
They vary based on head weights. You will often find between 2 and 6g of weight used within a single set.
@@EFGMC ok thank you so for example 4-pw kbs 120 steel stiff shafts probably have 2-4 gram tip weights in them stock off the shelf?? And are tip weights a must I’m reshafting my set I got the kbs shafts mentioned above on eBay and 3 of the 7 shafts do not have tip weights should I put them in or take them out of all the shafts sorry for the long response I’m new to this and want to do it the correct way thanks for any response
@@joshuablaha8385 All about feel and if you prefer more head weight. Most important use is making sure all the different irons feel the same so you might need different weights to get them matched up.
@@EFGMC thank you so much watch for an update I’m playing Friday 🤞🤞hopefully I do it correctly
Tungsten putty instead of powder is an option too. It is easier to make sure all the weight goes to the bottom of the shaft. A little bit harder to clean upon disassembly though.