@@HaydenLau. An economy is just a means of resource distribution and exchange. People have simply been conditioned into thinking that whenever they hear the word, they associate it with exchange of Capital or a free market economy, and thus with currency as this is the most used token to represent Capital. Though, I don't really think you should expect much else, people still think that China is a communist economy, and that couldn't be further from the truth lol.
@@AveSicarius Actually, "economy" is literally just the art and knowledge of housekeeping, from ancient greek "oikos" which means "house" and "nomos" which means "law". It's managing a household. The idea of economy as this big societal thing that is all about money is fairly modern.
Yep and I love the end where they lose the ransom money right after they betray their own beliefs by naming themselves servants of the cause rather than equal contributors that should share in the profits.
@@snowball9913 I mean sure, they're not directly profiting, but there's two glaring issues: a) the income inequality between her and them, the fact that they live in this privileged elite world while she only enters it and observes it from a subservient position when she goes to work b) despite all of their talk about work ethic, they cannot bring themselves to do something ordinary people do everyday: housework. They have to hire somebody else to work for them.
@@elliothill3953 Same! From FLW to even the more austere stuff. I was just reading that the stonework in the shot was just painted plaster. No surprise the movie's one Oscar nomination was for Best Production Design.
Patrick Fischler in this scene @ around 0:12 seconds.....guy who replies 'i did not'. ....he was in Mulholland Drive. guy in the diner...wigging out over the 'phantom' in the alley. freaky scary scene.
Can you spot the following people in this scene? =) Alvah Bessie, Herbert Biberman, Lester Cole, Edward Dmytryk, Ring Lardner, Jr., John Howard Lawson, Albert Maltz, Samuel Ornitz, Adrian Scott, and Dalton Trumbo.
Which do you want? A share of the profits that you may never get if the movie is a flop and certainly won't get any time soon or do you want the guarantee of being paid a certain amount right now when you sell the movie rights to your story? I don't see any scriptwriters returning their fee when the movie they wrote was a flop at the box office, oh no, when that happens it's always someone else's fault. Never the writer.
Can someone here please explain how the film works if Burt Gurney spilled the beans about On Wings as Eagles anyway? Wouldn’t that completely ruin the blackmail and leave Baird to name names? Seems like a bit of a plot hole that I’ve not been able to resolve.
Their plan isn't particularly well thought out. The holes in it (like Baird choosing to not peacefully comply), were conveniently forgotten; a common trope in Communist thought.
How is it a plot hole when Baird is unaware of how widespread the story is or who told them about it? Plus there's the fact that he's very protective of his reputation as an actor playing in a religious film. That seems good enough for psychological coercion.
they're largely absent from the vast majority of the actual production part of film-making. obviously they are worth their dues, but this explains why its easy to push them out. basically theres minimal cost and they cant really halt production with a strike since their work is (essentially) done before even the director is hired
@@ince55ant If their work was so essential and unreplacable they wouldn't have those """low""" wages lol. The guys in the movie are literally communists
@@penmuni3833 Do you know how hard it is to find that powdery, movie theater popcorn salt in the store? It's like candy cigarettes-- wildly popular, then gone without a trace.
This scene sums up why movies / art / media is like it is now, the creators are not respected or rewarded correctly but the window dressing is. The actors who just do as told are rewarded excessively.
You're mad studios make money they can reinvest in more movies and bigger budgets? You'd rather all movies were state funded and inefficient?? The writers in the clip are literally communists
The irony is that while talking about it, they uphold the very same system they condemn. They profit at the expense of others. Same story, different people.
"You can hardly share in your own ransom. That would be .... unethical." LOL
Love the guy in the back like “plus we make a little dough.”
Totally dismantles the ultimate point of the “study group” lol.
Who is that actor?
@@74bhounds wish I knew
@@74bhoundsDavid Krumholtz!
"We're not talking about money! We're talking about economics."
Brilliant line!
The best line in a satire since "You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
Economics doesn't necessarily have anything to do with money. An economy can exist without currency.
@@HaydenLau.
An economy is just a means of resource distribution and exchange. People have simply been conditioned into thinking that whenever they hear the word, they associate it with exchange of Capital or a free market economy, and thus with currency as this is the most used token to represent Capital.
Though, I don't really think you should expect much else, people still think that China is a communist economy, and that couldn't be further from the truth lol.
@@AveSicarius Actually, "economy" is literally just the art and knowledge of housekeeping, from ancient greek "oikos" which means "house" and "nomos" which means "law". It's managing a household. The idea of economy as this big societal thing that is all about money is fairly modern.
1:34 "I like to think we changed a few minds" hahahaha
"On Wings as Eagles" is the greatest running gag in film history since "Frau Blucher".
all the made-up movie titles in the film are THE BURNER
Gesundheit.
I really hope y'all caught the fact that after all this talk of exploitation the only person taking care of the house is a hired maid
Yep and I love the end where they lose the ransom money right after they betray their own beliefs by naming themselves servants of the cause rather than equal contributors that should share in the profits.
@@samjane3500 they also won't even let clooney in on the ransom
Whats wrong with that no ones profiting off her labour
@@snowball9913 I mean sure, they're not directly profiting, but there's two glaring issues:
a) the income inequality between her and them, the fact that they live in this privileged elite world while she only enters it and observes it from a subservient position when she goes to work
b) despite all of their talk about work ethic, they cannot bring themselves to do something ordinary people do everyday: housework. They have to hire somebody else to work for them.
kevin willems i cant ever find the definition of praxis what does it mean?
"I wrote all the all the way pictures" That guy is my favorite character in the movie
Alas that Frank Lloyd Wright-style house is just a set, the exterior shots were only a matte painting
I love that mid century modern look. Back when houses could be pieces of art
@@elliothill3953 Same! From FLW to even the more austere stuff. I was just reading that the stonework in the shot was just painted plaster. No surprise the movie's one Oscar nomination was for Best Production Design.
Best comedy in 20 years.
Byzantine41 better humour in the avengers
One of the best Easter movies ever made.
This was an awful movie. Just terrible. Star studded, big production, all the glitz...and just amazingly absolute crap. I felt violated watching it.
@@penmuni3833 lol regarded
@@penmuni3833 I had such high hopes!
2:08 "We're not even talking about money... we're talking about economics."
An economy can exist without currency
0:20 Greg Baldwin! aka the guy who replaced Mako (rip) as Aku on Samurai Jack!
I think it's funny that the guy who teaches the "study group" about direct action has trouble navigating his way down three stairs
He's old.
Patrick Fischler in this scene @ around 0:12 seconds.....guy who replies 'i did not'. ....he was in Mulholland Drive. guy in the diner...wigging out over the 'phantom' in the alley. freaky scary scene.
Do they know what happened to the last people who kidnapped Caesar and held him for ransom?
Deep cut
Ah the perfect of doublespeak.!!
And being directly obtuse.
Not sure if there is a scene in a picture that more encapsulates the living breathing idea of "Champagne Socialists" quite like this.
Sy Ableman is the bartender!
Not the point. In this world, Larry.
@@karlhinze it's a bourdeux larry
@@provetamin Letting it breathe… most important.
Sy Abelman!? Sy Abelman!!??
Can you spot the following people in this scene? =)
Alvah Bessie, Herbert Biberman, Lester Cole, Edward Dmytryk, Ring Lardner, Jr., John Howard Lawson, Albert Maltz, Samuel Ornitz, Adrian Scott, and Dalton Trumbo.
The Hollywood Ten
time stamp them?
@@geoff3103 Dalton Trumbo is the only one I can recognize by sight -- I think it's Alfred Molina playing him, if I remember right.
@@jimluebke3869 Ha thats David Krumholz though he looks like a young Al Molina
@@geoff3103 Fair enough, but remember, a _young_ Al Molina was in _Raiders of the Lost Ark._ =)
Is that Bernard the Head Elf?
It's Isaac the author from OUAT!
Love this early mid century Malibu Frank Lloyd Wright house.
Which do you want? A share of the profits that you may never get if the movie is a flop and certainly won't get any time soon or do you want the guarantee of being paid a certain amount right now when you sell the movie rights to your story? I don't see any scriptwriters returning their fee when the movie they wrote was a flop at the box office, oh no, when that happens it's always someone else's fault. Never the writer.
Can someone here please explain how the film works if Burt Gurney spilled the beans about On Wings as Eagles anyway? Wouldn’t that completely ruin the blackmail and leave Baird to name names? Seems like a bit of a plot hole that I’ve not been able to resolve.
Their plan isn't particularly well thought out. The holes in it (like Baird choosing to not peacefully comply), were conveniently forgotten; a common trope in Communist thought.
How is it a plot hole when Baird is unaware of how widespread the story is or who told them about it? Plus there's the fact that he's very protective of his reputation as an actor playing in a religious film. That seems good enough for psychological coercion.
@@Machimachina See also: brain drain
"We ACCELERATE DA DayaLektiK"
this film beats the socks off any Ronald Reagan movie.
Of course it’s the WRITERS plotting, because who’s traditionally lower on the Hollywood food chain than the writers…they don’t get no respect 😂
they're largely absent from the vast majority of the actual production part of film-making. obviously they are worth their dues, but this explains why its easy to push them out. basically theres minimal cost and they cant really halt production with a strike since their work is (essentially) done before even the director is hired
@@ince55ant If their work was so essential and unreplacable they wouldn't have those """low""" wages lol. The guys in the movie are literally communists
THE GLORY OF ROME IS FOREVER. SPQR.
Bud, this film isn't about Rome.
It's about Hollywood.
Coen's telling us a lot here. Sort of like a mea culpa from a society still celebrating Trumbo and Arthur Miller and all their bullshit...
@@jon8004 I felt it was pretty clear that the film sympathizes with the hardworking everymen and not these chumps.
I've just realised that the guy with the black hair and mustache is Oscar Isaac!
Wait the guy at like 45 seconds?
that's bernard the elf from santa clause
You are right. I stand corrected!
still a great catch, i wouldn't have noticed it was Bernard otherwise
Thorne42 😞
Doyou mean the guy who says "What are you? A child!" That is David Krumholtz, not Oscar Isaac.
Action
every single thing they said is objectively true. Its a shame this film didnt radicalise more people.
The Marcuse impression was a bit over the top
Sam Eash whose marcuse?
Marcuse was over the top.
Why?
Gosh this seems soooooo boring
This was an awful movie. Just terrible. Star studded, big production, all the glitz...and just amazingly absolute crap. I felt violated watching it.
I saw it in the theater. Still in therapy.
@@crimony3054 I stayed until the end, because the butter popcorn was really good and I didn't want to waste it.
@@penmuni3833 Do you know how hard it is to find that powdery, movie theater popcorn salt in the store? It's like candy cigarettes-- wildly popular, then gone without a trace.
@@crimony3054 Come to UK. They still got it.
oh.... this remainds me of so many people
This scene sums up why movies / art / media is like it is now, the creators are not respected or rewarded correctly but the window dressing is. The actors who just do as told are rewarded excessively.
You're mad studios make money they can reinvest in more movies and bigger budgets? You'd rather all movies were state funded and inefficient?? The writers in the clip are literally communists
The irony is that while talking about it, they uphold the very same system they condemn. They profit at the expense of others. Same story, different people.