BRIDGERTON SEASON 4 | SOPHIE CASTING ANNOUNCEMENT
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Hey y'all! I'm so excited to begin discussing the Bridgerton Season 4 era and what better way than an introductory video discussing the casting announcement, my general feelings and history with this couple and story, and some mild speculation about what we might be able to expect going forward. Hope you enjoy, leave any and all thoughts, comments, questions below!
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Have to agree that the casting on Bridgerton has been PERFECTION. Nicola Coughlin said she expected a prolonged, multi-audition process (Shondaland! Netflix!) and was astonished to be offered the role of Penelope after ONE audition; Claudia Jessie has said her audition experience for the show was the best she’d ever had (‘course, she is/was dating casting director Cole Edwards). The casting folks know what they are doing!
Excited to see a Korean on Bridgerton - she’s stunning.
I’m 98% excited about the casting and 2% worried about the possible white-savior trope that is seen so often, esp with the discrepancy with their social status and the Cinderella storyline
Same.
Your description about Benedict’s thought process behind his offer to Sophie made me immediately think of the song “Rewrite the Stars” from The Greatest Showman (23:30). I would be over the moon if they did an orchestral cover of the song for S4! 😆
Luke Newton's version
omg yes it would be so perfect!!!
I actually just read Gregory's books and I swear he's the only man who doesn't have anger issues lol. He has his moments where he is mad but its 100% reasonable and he doesn't over do it. I liked his book way more than I thought. But anyway yea I am looking forward to s4. An offer from a gentleman was my 3rd fave book (after the viscount who loved me and romancing mr bridgerton) and I agree, its historical romance so you gotta tune that stuff out lmaoo
Interesting that the relationship between Anthony and Siena in Season One hit similar notes: She refused Anthony’s impulsive suggestion that they make their relationship public, having no illusions that a sexually-adventurous, unmarried actress (horrors!) would find acceptance in Ton society-and valuing her own hard-earned independence. Sounds like Sophie is also grounded in reality and clear-eyed about what she wants versus what society will allow her to have. And it’s appropriate, I think, that these two strong female characters both come from the “lower classes.” As much as I love the Bridgerton family, they are absolutely clueless about how how the majority of the populace live, and that cluelessness causes inadvertent but real harm (Siena in Season One, Theo Sharpe in Season Two, even the Featherington’s fragile financial state throughout the series all highlight how incredibly privileged the Bridgertons are).
I’m not a fan of Julia Quinn’s prose, so I greatly appreciate your work in connecting the books to the series; thank you!
She’s definitely a strong willed character! It’s refreshing to see
I recently re read the book. The issue is not the offer (like it is kind of expected like Sienna with Anthony... it was a normal thing at that time IF the the woman accepts). The ISSUE is that he doesn't accept the no. He is coercitive and even threatened her to blackmail her to force to be his mistress. This is why (personality) his red flag is worse of the anger issues in Colin's book 😆 but anyone has different opinion. I will wait for when the Sir Phillip red flags will be pointed out because I am ready to do with him what you did with Ben like "He never did/said that".
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I don't think people judge the book so harshly because of the offer itself, but rather his attitude during that whole scene. What you describe sounds romantic, marrriage in everything but name, and I get that. However, the way Benedict offers it (as if it's obvious, she'll say yes) and his reaction to her "no"... That's what makes the offer problematic and icky on many levels. I'm gonna quote the scene in the comment for those, who are interested or don't remember the exact wording. But yeah, for now let's just say that he's not taking the rejection like a gentleman, instead he acts like a privileged lustful prick. I wish I could filter that as well, but I can't.
I'm still excited to see Benophie's season, though ❤. You're right, it is most likely that they won't keep the problematic parts from the book, so I'm hopeful. Thank you for your amazing content. I'm so glad you found sponsorship 😁 You deserve that for your hard work! Take care of yourself ❤
Sophie: I can't do this Benedict.
Benedict: I don't see why not.
Sophie: I can't be your mistress.
Benedict: And why is that?
Sophie: Because I don't want to.
Benedict (with anger): You wanted to just a few seconds ago.
Sophie: You're not being fair. I wasn't thinking.
Benedict: You're not supposed to be thinking. That's the point of it.
Sophie: Well, I won't be your mistress.
Benedict (hissing): And what are you going to do instead? Work as a housemaid?
Sophie: If I have to.
Benedict: You'd rather wait on people... polish their silvers, scrub out their damned chamber pots than come and live with me.
Sophie: Yes.
Benedict: I don't believe you. No one would make that choice.
Sophie: I did.
Benedict: You're a fool.
Sophie: ...
I won't be quoting the whole scene (chapter 12 btw), but I'd like to add that a moment later he also says: "No, you *didn't* think" & "You bloody fool [...]" & "And you're not being intelligent". So he manages to insult her intelligence four times during the scene. When he finally comes to the conclusion that she's an illegitimate child, he is relieved, because her rejection "has nothing to do with him and everything with her" and he's thinking: "It was a serious moment, but by God, he wanted to break out in a grin because now she's come to London with him and be his mistress". Mind you, she still didn't say yes to his offer, he just assumed she would 'cause he said: "I don't care if you're illegitimate". Then a bit later comes the blackmail part, which is very off-putting.
I could make a whole list of things that made the scene hard to read, because there are more, but I think I made my point.
Disclaimer: I'm not trying to say that people, who like this book, are problematic or wrong to say it's the best one. I'm just pointing out that the offer itself is not the problem, but Benedict is. Most people just simplify their thoughts by saying "the offer was disgusting" 'cause this way it's easier and shorter.
Completely agree with you 💯👏
Book Benedict was ok up until the moment of the offer. I'm not a fan of the type of offer he made to her, but given the era, and how his feelings are all over the place with the lady in silver / Sophie the maid, the offer itself shouldn't come as a surprise much. But the way he handles Sophie's rejection, and then manages to belittle her / insult her (whether he does it consciously or not) was severely disappointing to me. This book is definitely not my favourite (love the masquerade element, never loved much the Cinderella trope, but I have never ever loved it before that) but one of the strength of the book is definitely Sophie, who's among my favourite female characters in the Bridgertonverse. But book Benedict had moments where he seriously disappointed me. Again not so much the offer (even if the offer is icky you have to remember the whole context), than the way he reacts/behaves.
I'm not really worried for the show, the way they wrote Benedict is already good. We'll have to see what they will do of the offer itself (are they gonna alter it in someway?), but whatever the offer itself, I'm sure Benedict's reaction in the show will be much better and much more interesting. Luke T being a shakespearian actor, I am really looking forward to see him portray a heartbroken Benedict. And so many other emotions. I cannot wait to see it!
I cannot wait. He is my favorite brother. However, I still cannot get over Colin and Pen!
You are getting me HYPED for this season man!!! The idea of having the masquerade party be the promotion sounds SO good and camp. I’m imagining the camera walk through this party kinda like the ball scene in labyrinth and stalling on all the faces we know, then landing on Sophie with her taking off her mask 😍😍
Also, as someone who’s only read Romancing mister bridgerton and only in preparation for the 3rd season, you’re definitely making me wanna read offer from a gentleman Lool
You are so right asking her to be his mistress is totally fine, so much so I can see this being shown during the series, but blackmail is gross and that will definitely be cut.
Girl! I clicked so fast when you posted. None of my friends or fam watch Bridgestone, so your vids have brought me so much joy. Like listening to a bestie and everything you say is exactly what I am thinking
I could have written this remark-ITA!
🤦🏻♀️I spelt Bridgerton wrong. Dumb autocorrect
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Seems to me (from what I know of the plot) Penelope might be very useful in the resolution of certain issues, while Colin might well have some advice for his older brother--as a man who knows that it is like to find and wed a True Love/Soul Mate/Heart's Answer.
I am also anticipating Eloise growing in S4, as she spends time in John and Francesca's castle with Michaela there, then seeing her favorite brother fall so utterly in love and marry.
Bendict might ask penelope to use her gossip paper to help him find sophie I think she is going to be a maid in the featherington house for penelope and colin that way bendict will keep seeing her
@@heatherlingard9444 Maybe!
Part of me wants to point out while their son is presumably Lord Featherington, his and their family name is still Bridgerton. But that gets into some nuances I frankly don't believe the show is much interested in even a tiny bit (honestly they never get that kind of thing right EVER--there is absolutely no way, for example, anyone can leave someone else a title, that is just not something which could be done then or now).
I relate to the 3 main women in the book series which is Sophie, Penelope, and Francesca and I've loved how the show has kept the essence of Pen and Franny so I just hope they do the same as Sophie 🩵.
Also to the people, who judge any Bridgerton man if you are not perfect why do you want book characters to be perfect, book characters reflect real life, people say and do problematic things🤷🏽♀️.
Also, since Sophie is a wise person in the books is it possibly that she’ll offer Benedict some excellent advice when it comes to his art? 🖼️ Like Violet and the other Bridgertons can be confidants Benedict turns to when he has questions about his growing relationship with Sophie and his search for the Lady in Silver. But then Sophie can be the main person whom he confides in about his art.
I almost didnt wantnto read ot once I realized it was a "Cinderella" story. I am sooooo glad I did. It was my FAVORITE book by far!!!!
Violet is soooooo good in this book!!
regarding the problematic tropes of the time period, i think its important that we can have rational and productive discussions on these issues. we do have to look at the material with an eye to the time period that the story is set in. we do need to remember that it is fiction, and so we shouldn't expect an accurate depiction of the era the story is set in or the era that the story was written in. the problem is as we become more tolerant of differences in people, we become less tolerant of people making mistakes and fail to give them a chance to change. the whole point of a fairy tale is for it to be a lesson. to use that information to learn, to grow, and to change. what's the point if you're not going allow people that chance to change? the whole point of Benedict being the way he is at the start is for him to grow and change. perfect characters are boring. it's the imperfections and the journey that makes a story worth telling. those people bitching about these characters at the beginning of their arcs miss the point entirely.
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I wonder if the Mondrich’s will be his mentor? considering they lived outside of the Ton, and he was their mentor briefly during season 3.
I was exactly the same as you were I read Romancing Mr BRidegton first before Offer from a gentleman. I'll be honest I love this book , I love Sophies personality and how she puts Benedict in her place and he also breaks down her walls .
I'm so excited to see them both on screen ❤😂😅
Benedict's book is one of my least favorites, but I have always been excited for his season because I love Luke's Benedict and I think he brings so much life to the character and I knew that there would be alterations to the story that could make it flow or deliver the story line better. And I do think the show so far has set up Sophie and Benedic's situation for good story telling and a way that will be less... I don't know kinda gross around the "offer". Either way I an excited to see what comes and what you'll have to say all along the way!
If people are upset bt the casting of love interest need to stop the hate wnd just enjoy the show because if i hear someone else saying that Penelope should have lost weight or Kate should have been white i will lose my grip, like is the 21st century like it or not they will always be peopel who have different skin colours or different heights and weights,so stop the hating you are only making yourself miserable
Who says things like that? I mean besides people like Megan Kelly. What normal person is saying the things u r talking about?
@@MearnieToon I was in a discord server which I have already left but they were talking about how the series is shit because of the love interest, it was disgusting the things they weere saying
@@MearnieToonLots of very terrible people on the internet, and the fandom at large has been somewhat toxic regarding any of the characters being played by POC and their actors (particularly those who are darker skinned or queer) and especially bad to the ones that are part of changes to the book series. And while it is ok to be frustrated or upset they changed things from a book, it's an adaptation it's going to be different, but they're using that excuse to be racist/homophobic and it's disgusting to see.
I mentioned the fans previously and while I personally don't think it's as far off from what is usually seen in internet fan spaces, unfortunately it's pretty common to see :( but after season 3 a lot of that racism came out hard with regard to John and Michaela Stirling and many of the POC actors have spoken out about being harassed by "fans" of the series and it making it difficult for them to want to work on the show.
And the people who made the show already said bridgerton is played in a AU were racism stopped when Charlotte became queen, so the didn't have to be 100% historic accured.
I started out hating this story, I thought the Cinderella trope was trite. But I ended up liking it. I don’t think it is my favorite but I did like it. I will admit, I think that the shows are way better than the books. I am looking forward to watching. Thank you as always for your video ❤
I'm glad to hear that somebody else likes this book. Before I read it I had heard Benedict's the worst. but then I did really like it.❤
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The show does not commit to modern vs regency era. It blends the two in sometimes confusing and annoying ways. Behaviors are explained as both “Bridgerton doesn’t try to be historical” and “that’s how it was in that era.”
The only reason he gives Sofie that offer is because he still has feeling for the Lady in Silver. But when he figures that they arrvibe in the same thatsvwhen they get married.
I didnt read/listened to any of the books till after Season 3 part one came out but I fell in love with Benedicts personality/life beliefs in season 1. I havent read all the books yet but my favorite so far is Benedicts story. I'm really excited about the possibilities and with cast. I really liked your idea of the Masquerade cast announcements with maybe a Polin handing off the tourch announcement too. ❤❤ Fingers crossed for another epic season. 😎
I wanted a South Korean actress for Sophie sooo much, ever since Netflix started the idea of different races. I really hope they do a fun spin on her name like they did for Kate (Kathrine Sheffield to Kathani Sharma): Sophia Beckett to Baek Sohee.
It's kind of funny bc I have very similar opinions about the "problematic" nature of historical romance novels but the reason this one bothered me more than some of the other books is because Sophie is so adamant about not being a mistress. So the initial offer is fine imo, but it's how pushy he is after she says no that bothers me. I'm interested to see how this book gets adapted bc I feel like book Benedict is soooooo different than show Benedict :)
Fandom is such a double-edged sword. It is lovely to have people to obsess over shows with, but then you get such mean arguments over random things. It is ok to have different favorites! To Sir Philip with Love is mine, and I had no idea how unpopular that opinion was until recently. 🙄 A staple of the genre is these interconnected series with a new sibling/friend/teammate as the romantic lead each book. With a new love interest and new tropes. Everyone has their favorite, and that is ok because we all love the world they inhabit and the HEA. And yes, these books were written 20 years ago and the "ideal" romantic lead looked different then. Thank goodness we have all evolved and that Netflix/Shondaland are committed to the spirit of the books, if not the law. If I don't love every decision they have made, who cares! They clearly have a graat deal of respect and affection for the source material and that is more than many adaptations get.
I literally had to pause because the gasp that I gusped when you said AN Offer From a Gentleman was your number one! Like, Sammy, I trusted you! 😭 The only book character that ever made me feel as much rage as I felt about book Benedict is Dolores Umbridge. THAT is how much I DESPISE that man. You should see my Goodreads updates from that book. I lost count of how many time I used the 🚩 emoji.
Like I said, I paused the video, so let's see how you explain yourself!
Sophie is a legend, though. Love her.
NO WAY! Not the Umbridge comparison lmfao. I’ll definitely be discussing my thoughts more in depth so I’m sure many conversations can and will be had about the book. Maybe I can help people see it in a less negative light, but regardless, much spirited discussion is surely ahead. I do also think they won’t include so much of the problematic/red flag stuff in the show so again I kinda filter it out when thinking about show Benedict/ season 4.
@SammyBates Yeah, I'm not worried about the show at all. They know what they're doing, and they've already changed Benedict SO MUCH for the better. I know it will be great, but yeah I really wish I could send you a photo of my Goodreads updates because I was calling him out on his nonsense so quick. Haha!
If it makes you feel better, one of my best friends loved his book too, and Eloise's. I was like, "Ma'am I am CONCERNED about your taste in men!" She said that she likes her fictional men to be red flags, but it's ok because she married a green flag. 🤣 To each, their own, I suppose.
I’m excited! And I hope to the LORD that they do not split the season again. PLEASE 😂🤞🏽
thank you aura for reconizing our youtube queen!
An East Asian Cinderella is honestly an exciting idea! We've seen Cinderellas of every other ethnicity, so why not East Asian!
To be clear, I haven't read the book but I have heard a few plot summaries. I think you did a good job putting the offer into perspective and I agree with what you're saying, but I feel like the blackmail is less justifiable. Can you expand on your thoughts on that part of it?
I will definitely be expanding on my thoughts about that (and the rest of the book) a ton in the future!
Thanks Sammy! So excited about Sophie being cast! Question: any chance you’ll break down the Willow tree sometime soon? No pressure. Thanks for being you!
No, thank YOU! I am so appreciative of your support. It’s so funny you ask this because I started it a few days ago and am about finished with writing the script, so the answer is yes, willow tree anatomy of a scene is coming soon! 💓
Exciting~!
You look stunning, lady!!
not sure if any of this will make sense but here we go: {includes minor plot and character spoilers for an offer from a gentleman}
i think the most “problematic” part of an offer from a gentleman FOR ME is that benedict- even with his unmistakable attraction towards and feelings for sophie- keeps holding out for his “mysterious woman in silver” (ignoring the fact that she and sophie are one and the same because HE doesn’t know it at this point in the story). i just don’t see how it is fair for sophie to be coerced and essentially blackmailed into going back to london with benedict to work in his mum’s household + face the risk of being exposed everyday for benedict to be holding out on her- i guess i’m on the same page as you sammy when it comes to class divide and how much of a MASSIVE deal it is for benedict to eventually come to the decision that he does (pre-discovering sophie’s identity of course). but it’s the parts before he reaches that decision that i can’t ignore because it could have ended so badly for sophie. she isn’t only putting her steadfast morals in jeapardy, she’s literally putting her physical self in danger just because benedict wants to be close to her (plus at this point in the story he feels lust for her more than anything else). obviously it all works out in the end and benedict comes to understand sophie’s situation and point of view- but the thing that left a bad taste in my mouth was how careless and selfish he was being, thinking he could have both sophie and his woman in silver without giving sophie the chance to make her own decisions. (she could have easily stayed SAFE AND LOOKED AFTER in my cottage or whatever it was called and worked with the sweet couple who manage it, did she really have to go to london with him? he only forced her because he was so sure he could convince her to become his mistress and it was so satisfying to see sophie reject his offer again and again- that’ll teach him to blackmail her!!).
anyway, i agree with you sammy- there is A LOT in historical romances that you kind of just have to ignore (if it bothers you) or accept because it just comes with the territory.
benophie are my second favourite couple too (after kanthony of course)!!
Benedict is absolutely terrible in the book lol it's alright to admit that, we don't have to make excuses for him or filter things out. I can't name a single moment where i can genuinely say i liked him because he just behaved like a selfish man-child whose needs come before everybody else. I felt bad for sophie and how much she justified the sexual pressure due to her love for benedict and at some points, his thoughts of sophie were just genuinely predatory and manipulative.
also some highlights that just pissed me off such as; "It would mean compromise, mostly on her part." and "He knew that she wanted respectability, but she knew he could not give it to her.", and of course: "He was so damned afraid she would change her mind if he allowed her to put any of her thoughts into words..." right before sleeping with her was insane. Nope, he is a detestable character in the books idgaf about the time period or that Sophie justifies his behavior.
His character is so much better in the show so i hope they don't ruin him but rather show that he's not there just for comedic relief and has depth to him (etc more of the scenes when he explained to anthony the power of poetry). i hope sophie is the one that helps benedict find himself bc he seems to be completely lost since season 1.
Tbh, i tried reading the book but was so bored that i didn't even get halfway through. But because of you Sammy, I'll give it another go.
I trust the casting. These guys know what they're doing. I'm actually happy with the representation. They're keeping it very diverse.
Loved your video and I'll go read the book now❤
I remember this book having a lot of angst and hot hot hot yearning between Benedict and Sophie because of his offer. I’m really excited to see how that is pro-trade. Also curious to see the story line between Penelope/ Whistledown and Sophie because in the book Sophie is OBSESSED with Whistledown. I’m a Polin Stan forever but Offer from a Gentleman is my third favorite book. When he was wicked is my second favorite.
What if they change Beckett to Baek?
This is why penelope is my favorite in-law. She is very relatable to me. Sophie is definitely a close second.
Got 5 bucks on them going the whole Mulan route and appealing to Benedict’s newfound attractions
I would like that, a bit of like the early 2000s movie she is that man and Benedict's bisexuality won't just be ignored now that it's his turn to be married.
Are you going to do reaction videos for the last 4 episodes of the third series?
Thank you for saying the thing. I’ve been reading historical romance since I was (looking back now) concerningly young. And yes, every single hero has a moment, or 12, that if you look at it from a 21st century pov, are absolutely unacceptable. However, they’ve already proven that in the show, those problematic scenes are (mostly) redirected. Like with Colin’s proposal. Book Colin and show Colin said the exact same words. Book Colin was impatient, angry, and a little condescending. Show Colin was sweet, young, and joyful. So I’m not worried about Benedict’s season.
I can’t wait to see what else you have to say about the new season!
I beg of you to do some scene analysis from season 2. I love those scenes so much ❤
I'm so proud you have a sponsorship! I hope I get to watch your online presence grow! You're fun to listen to, so articulate and have great insights! Keep up the good work. I'd love to see you on TV someday offering your opinions. Dream big girl!
I've not gotten into S4 speculation or anticipation yet. I'm rather unmoved by it as of now 🤪
I sincerly they add some asian culture to the show and definitly her wardrobe and hair. I understand the book plot. And im curious to see if they are going to go with the same plot but in a different way. like her being a maid at the dowager house or maybe the new staff that Kate gets once violet leaves.
I think the bigger issue is his family and ruining Hyacinth by marrying a commoner. other than that I think he would marry her anyway. Hopefully we see Gregory going off to Eaton. Hyacinth will start to learn how to be a Lady.
this season has the potential to give us all the things we want. the crew updates and great family moments along with Bens humor and teasing. they better give us a introduction with mask... or some teaser trailer with her at the topof the stairs or something. lol
The first half of this book is incredible! The second half had me lost just a bit but I plan on re-reading bc the show is going to take a while to come out.
Ha is an excellent actress. Not a Halo fan, but my daughters said needed to watch it. Her acting and the main actor in the series hooked me in.
Totally agree. Sophie is my fave inlaw! She’s balanced, wise and kind. I can’t wait to love her on screen xxx
The book was up in my top 3 for sure! X
Can't wait for season 4!! Can't believe it will take them 2 years... Btw will you do yap sessions for season 3 part 2?
I am hopeful that they will do something cute for Yerin’s official casting announcement. I’d rather be patient for it than demand for Shondaland/Netflix to simply post a photo w/an announcement that we already know of, like I see some ppl doing. We have 2yrs & they’ve just now got Sophie w/prod starting soon so let’s give them some time to work & give us quality crumbs during the drought😆.
I also agree about the love interests saying/doing something crazy in all the books but for some reason some folks seem to only want to single out Ben.
I’m here to have a good time bcuz I love this show so much! Hope the unnecessary ship wars die (but I know it won’t). We will never have another vibe-tastic show like this again so let’s enjoy & have fun with all the seasons we are fortunate to get!😊
Season four will definitely be an improvement over the last one.
Oh you have me so hyped about the casting announcement! I am firmly confident they will make good use of the masquerade as a way to promote season 4 for the time of its release, but I haven't necessarily thought about the casting announcement. I also find it strange there's still no confirmation from Netflix/Shondaland, so I'm hopeful they are "polishing" the announcement and gonna make good use of the masquerade to reveal Yerin Ha, just like you said. If it doesn't happen like this I must admit I'd be disappointed.
A couple thoughts… I TOTALLY think they’ll give us an intro that will be season 4 launch & cast! Your mask idea would be AMAZING!!
Sammy love your assessments and honestly I the netflix show should have you on their team! You have such a handle on the human mind and experience. I'm curious if you have a psychology background?
I’m very well excited
I so wish I could share in the wholehearted enthusiasm, because Yerin looks like a *really* great choice for Sophie, but I'm very hesitant on how well the writers are going to adapt this story.
The optics of a wealthy white man trying to pressure a working class (specifically domestic) East Asian woman into sex work (because that's what being a mistress *is*, no matter the romantic trappings) are also...not great. Desperately hoping they handle the story well, but the focus the show has on melodrama at the expense of characterization has me worried.
Especially because Bridgerton has taken a race-conscious casting approach, and yet they so often choose to ignore the Unfortunate Implications that their casting can sometimes add.
Even so, I am looking forward to seeing these two onscreen together.
ETA: I have (and will continue to) happily read this trope in romance novels, but it's undeniable that Yerin being East Asian adds a certain distastful dimension to this sort of story, and past seasons *have* shown a lack of care with regards to certain story beats. Which is to say - not every discussion of 'problematic elements' is contextless discourse. You may not consider yourself to be the best person to address those issues (rightly or wrongly), but handwaving it all away by sayng, 'well, that's the trope' is a tad dismissive. (To reiterate - I don't think you should feel that you're required to tackle topics you're uncomfortable speaking on, only that you not downplay them.)
Yeah, as much as I appreciate their attempts to be both color-blind and color-conscious in their casting, it frustrates me from a storytelling (and meta perspective) that it only matters when convenient for the plot or not. As you said, the choices are fine if you think about none of the implications, and some of those implications matter either in or out of story.
As an east Asian, I'm hopeful about having a new protagonist in a romance, particularly in a regency/period drama, where there are rarely any Asians at all. But again, as you pointed out, the offer for her to be his mistress as both a lower class and specifically a lower class East Asian woman, has some really big implications. Problematic is a word that I think undersells the way it's just something so historically shown to be a real life thing that happened so much. So while I think the showrunners/writers have some leeway to change the way its going to play out, I really hope they consider it a lot when they are writing that plot. I think it's very fair to say wait and see and be cautiously optimistic.
And re: the ETA, also hard agree. Just because something is problematic but you don't mind it doesn't change that it is a problem for others in the audience, and while maybe it is a little silly to get worked up about a fictional world where it's regency in name only for the aesthetic and we're getting pop orchestra covers, it does at times reflect the real world. It can't be a staple of the trope and acceptable for the times and also be allowed to break whatever rules they want just because you (Sammy Bates, a white woman) (not op) don't want to deal with the implications in the silly regency romance show.
I hope Sophie will help Eloise grow!
I’m excited about your season 4 videos, I’ve not read An offer from a gentleman but probably will eventually, despite the fact that I don’t like the books as much as I like the show, which is weird considering that I’m usually the exact opposite. I do have one question though, can we expect more videos on Season 3 of Bridgerton or are you done with that content?
There’s no perfect person so why make the characters perfect and PC regarding their personalities and speech. That’s not reality. Also, love the casting for Sophie!
Cheers!
if they don't have them dance to an extremely intense orchestral version of You & Me by Jennie Kim of BlackPink I will be disappointed cuz now I've envisioned it in my head and it's just Chef's Kith. but this is just my opinion. before everyone decides to tell me I'm wrong and how their picks are better. this isn't a discussion argue with the wall and your momma's its not my fault I'm correct.
Just because you filter things out doesn't mean other people need to filter things out. Certainly, I agree that the show probably won't go down that road as what the books did. BUT please do not disregard other peoples' concerns, just because you can filter it. The books are old, yes, but it's important to adress the issues, so new books may move on from those problematic and toxic traits.😊
Other than that I'm very happy with Yerin being Sophie. She will be perfect in the role I'm sure.🥰
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I love colin and pen and cant wait to see them as a married couple and loved up with thier son but i am also looking foward to bendicts story line and if she is sophie i would rather wait until shonaland and the official bridgerton video of announceing sophie then good casting as she is very pretty i read a recent interview with the show runner jess and she said that she asked nicola and luke to return for series 4 as she still has more story to tell and thier must be a reason why she wanted thier son to be lord featherington and move in to the featherington house so i think sophie will be employed as a maid for colin and penelope in the updated featherington house that way she will keep seeing bendict as he will be there most of the time due to him being close to colin
20 years isn't that long ago!
I don’t understand the fussiness about his offer either. In 2024 we have tons of women happily accepting this exact SAME offer! Many of whom never get the ending Sophie apparently does.
To be fair, I haven’t read the book, so I’m not sure if he was a complete jerk about the offer. From what Sammy said, it doesn’t seem like it. Even if he was though…there are men (decidedly NOT gentlemen) who make this offer and women are eager to accept it (see any of a Nick Cannon’s dozen baby mamas for reference) 🤷🏾♀️. If you don’t like the offer being made, decline it! Sophie did. Sounds like she wouldn’t settle for less than marriage and it forced Benedict to step up. Instead of the outcry, maybe they should model her behavior.
It’s so odd to me how our delicate sensibilities are so selective.
Maybe spoilery!
The problem wasn’t that he asked (in the book), it was that he didn’t take her no for an answer.
@@relayniedarcy Ah! Understood 🙂
I just finished When He was Wicked and I was shocked at how violent Michael is, how he threatens to impregnate Francesca against his will and then says if she wont marry him, she has to leave the estate. I was like, sir, excuse me, do we need an intervention. All the book love interests are dicey, and Benedict is no different I am confident the show will do an excellent job cherry picking the best bits of the novel and jettisoning the rest (Lake Scene , Lake Scene, Lake Scene).
You liked Offer From A Gentleman? I’m shocked… I’ve read four of the Bridgerton books, and it was the most icky. But I love you.
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They don’t even need the masks to be the actual costumes. It could be a mask that they all use just for that video. Brilliant marketing @sammy Shonda take notes✍🏻
I have to say I hate this book and hated Benedict. So I am not excited about next season. Unless they change his abusive behavior, trying to convince her to have sex and be his mistress I have no interest. I'll just have to hope they give them a 5th season and in 4 years we get to El.
polin shippers lie for a living, AOFAG IS THE BEST!