The Real Walking Dead: Bernthal and Reedus Unscripted
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2024
- Jon Bernthal and Norman Reedus, two veterans of the zombie apocalypse, reunite for an unfiltered conversation about their time on "The Walking Dead." They dive deep into the show that revolutionized television and changed their lives. The dialogue meanders through the dusty backroads of Georgia, where they found an unexpected family amidst the chaos of filmmaking. They reminisce about on-set camaraderie, late-night adventures, and the bittersweet pain of moving on. Bernthal and Reedus trade stories of personal growth, fatherhood, the strange beast that is fame, and what it means to be part of something bigger than yourself.
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I wish he would get Andrew Lincoln on the podcast at some point
That would be amazing
@@J_R__ indeed
@@andrewgarfield9898 hes far to busy
@@clexxy9719 with what? Walking dead is over 💀💀💀
@@andrewgarfield9898no its not, you are not up to date sir
What an awesome podcast. Jon, you may have only been on the show for 18 episodes but your character stayed part of the show the entire time.
Mad only 18 episodes. Genuinely felt like he was on the show much longer.
He was my favorite character. I always felt that he got a grasp of what the rules of the world were, and was trying to figure out a way to convey it to the rest of the group/rick.
He’s got like top 5 most lines of Any character on the whole show so that’s part of it aside from other things
I’ll never forget the way he executes and says with a specific cadence… “I’m a better Faaaather than you Riiiick!”
Don't forget that Shanes character shaped Rick into the monster that he had to become.
The original cast were the best
japp
that show went downhill right after season 4
The first 3 seasons were the best.
100% I love the first 3 season
everything after season 4 for me was awful
@@Kaneyane japp,
i can rewatch season 1-4 all day man
but after that I just cant
hey dont look at me wrong there is still some dope as scenes after that season
but it was never the same!
they never evem mentioned old characters like wtf
they mentinoned Shane like 2 times
and they totally forgot the rest of the characters
they did not even mentioned hershel that much
i wanna see if it the writers after first 4 seaons was the same
i doubt it
Jon played Shane so well. Always wished he could have lasted longer. Him against the Governor, Negan, the cannibals, the whisperers...would have been SO EPIC
season 2 shane would’ve smoked negan
@@jyzzahFor REAL. Those battles would have been so crazy 😂
@@jyzzahhe woulda got everyone killed in reality, rash decisions were his specialty
I think he would've handled the governor
If Shane had lived into season 3, the governor would've gotten dropped the moment they met lol. Dude would not have hesitated to kill the governor the first chance he got no matter what happened as a consequence lol
I met Jon, at a 'Walker Stalker' Con, in 2017. I remember going up to his booth, and I said 'Shane is a very misunderstood character, and was/is one of my favorites, of the show.' He literally talked to my wife and I, for almost 5 minutes, even though he had a huge line of people waiting. He was so down to earth, and listened and engaged with us, almost like we had known each other for years. Just want to say, meeting you, Jon, was a highlight and I hope I get the chance, to say hello again someday. Cheers, Mr. Walsh
Very rare to see someone in the industry that is so down to Earth as Jon is. Met him back in 2014 in Louisville and the same thing... He took the time to really talk to me. We talked about his alternate end to Shane that he pitched along with Fury, which hadn't come out yet... Talked about the WWII vets those guys met with... You can tell he truly cares about the craft of storytelling and what that means... The humanity angle of it. This podcast reflects that too... It's real conversations, no bs... It's about the humanity and that may sound corny, but it's respectable and commendable as fuck.
Damn, save some commas for the rest of us
@@BikewreckI got no commas anymore this guy took em all
@@Bikewreck 😭😭😭
Shane was just years ahead mentally when everyone else was still trying to "do the right thing". He should have had a full arc.
You can literally tell these guys are more than friends. It’s hard nowadays to find friendship like this.
What you mean like lovers lol
They're bros!
Absolutely not wrong there
Yeah it seems like Jon could be jealous of Norman for being on the show so long, but Jon has been in a lot of good stuff too.
@@justin-md4xm if he’s jealous of anything it’s the pay norm’s gettin from the show. Idk anyone who still watches it. Twd started becoming dumb during mid season 4. They drug that show out as long as they could and they’re still doing it with spin offs from commercials I see on tv .
These two do like each other. I sat in front of them on a flight and they talked the entire flight.. across the aisle from each other. 4 hours
That’s so cool!!
Wow!! that’s really cool you got to be in the same flight as them. I’m glad they have such a good friendship
I’m trying to think of someone that I could talk to for four hours on a flight …. I can’t, not even my own mother lol
Sure
thanks now ill manifest to be in a flight with them
The Walking Dead was one of the first shows where every episode looked like a movie. Up until then with most tv shows you could just tell with one glance that it’s a show. I don’t know why that is, but you can just tell by the way it looks.
It's one of those things once you know what to look for you can see it. Personally I can get even movies down to a couple years of their release on film quality
i believe the early producers used real physical film instead of digital, so that might have something to do with it. i know exactly what you mean
Seriously debatable, Breaking Bad was already in it's 3rd season.
@@AimlessQuotesI've stated one of the first, not THE first.
That's what Darabont was about. He added the depth. When Gimple got involved, it just seemed like another time killing show with BS fillers. Adding too many characters that'll just die off at the end of the season.
Jon listens with such intent and eagerness to learn more about his guests. Even when they are friends. Great episode
So does Norman, it's a rare quality, made me love this conversation so much more.
But in such a short time Jon you killed that role.
@@jeremymcculley712 He sure Did
Right, he's plays such a good character
He really did. Wish they would have found some way to redeem him
@@Samueldonovan2007well they kinda did in the flashback episodes with Rick
Easily one of my favorite characters in the entire show
What made Walking Dead work for me was not just the incredible performances, but the chemistry between the actors felt so real and good. That chemistry was sustained for so many seasons.
Hearing them talk about Scott...😢😢 RIP Scott Wilson
Damn man…Scott played his role so damn well. Rest in peace. 😞
@@dearjohn795 don’t speak ill of the dead
@@dearjohn795great actor and even better person. Close your mouth
@@dearjohn795 Do you even know who Scott Wilson is? He’s an amazing actor.
@@dearjohn795hUh bro did awesome in that roll what u yappin about
you NEED to get Andrew up here
“I’m very aware of time, I’m very aware of mortality, I’m very aware of wasting energy on things… I want to learn stuff, I want to make connections”
-Norman Reedus
We all could take this to heart probably in some way or another.
I still believe Jon's role in the walking dead was one of the biggest parts that made it that popular. that buildup to the two friends eventually colliding was amazing. or i'm biased just cause i really like every role he plays, but i still think it's true.
That was what truly gave depth to the show and kept it from being just another zombie flick. Made it so that you watched and were interested in the individual characters and their development.
@@nathanfox3090 So very true
I feel like the reason the MCU picked him as the Punisher is because of that scene, from season 1 episode 3 - Tell it to the frogs, where he beats the fuck outta ed. He was so good as shane
I loved it because I could see that Shane was already well adapted and integrated in what the world was. I Always think in future seasons against some of the enemies they face that if they had Shane with them things wouldn't have gone half as bad.
Shane gave us a glimpse of what Rick would eventually become. Shane was my favourite character and no other character besides Negan ever reached the same level for me.
We all still talk about Shane!!! That says something!
The Walking Dead will always have a special place in my heart, the experience of sitting down every Sunday at 9PM was priceless, and then Talking Dead to follow it up
Streaming services killed this experience. 😢
Talking dead was great! Being able to immediately see a rehap of that episode from the actors. It was amazing. I miss those days.
I hated Shane, but i loved Jon's acting, that season is my favourite to this day. Those good old days...
Funny how shit on it was back in the day and now it's looked at as a top tier season by a lot of fans. Wild how perspective changes.
Yes it's weird. I didn't know fans used to hate it, to me that season was a masterpiece from day 1.
100%
Did they hated his character or his acting? If they hated the character, he did everything right. I couldn’t stand Shane and 5 seasons later realized that he was the person from the beginning that Rick evolved to.
Shane did everything right? He kept hitting on Rick's wife even after his return, assaulted her, then tried to kill Rick, became a hot head, and again tried to kill Rick (a second time), killed Otis... I agree that Shane was right about a lot of things, but he didn't do "everything" right.
Two genuine souls with such a down to earth world view.
Jon's story about his dog was beautiful. How amazing it is to have such a friend in your life, just amazing.
Made me tear up when he talked about his dog ❤ shows he’s a great guy.
Absolutely amazing. You can tell how excited Jon is for this. Pretty sure I could watch these guys for hours
What I love about this interview is that I can feel that sometimes Jon wants to move on to another question, but he’s so engaged in listening to Norman that, in just one sentence, Jon forgets that he wanted to switch topics and instead asks Norman to elaborate on what he just said! I love that.
59:23 I think they’re referring to Jon’s idea of Shane’s gun being purposefully empty, implying that Shane had no intention of killing Rick, but to push Rick to do what it took to survive. To me, it made more sense for the character to sacrifice himself in that way than wanna kill his best friend to have Lori and Carl for himself. There’s just no way that would even work and he knew that.
Thank you for mentioning this
Yesssss
What do you mean his gun was empty? buddy got stabbed by rick and let off a round
@@austinleap5924That was Jon’s original idea
Huh? The whole show was building up to him wanting Rick's family it's not too out of place
Shane was my fav character. I always love the energy you bring in every role. Daryl and Shane both brought that realism into it. You both are legends
I really enjoyed being a fly on the wall for this conversation. Both of you are truly real ones. The world needs more of you both.
My friend Sam saw Norman at the grocery store and she said he was the sweetest guy ever! Stay safe me kings!
Jon, that was truly one of your best episodes. I had the pleasure of meeting you at a comic con in Colorado. We were introduced by a mutual friend...Scott Wilson. I've been in broadcast radio for almost 40 years. And honestly, I've met some big names, but you were the most humble. That always stuck with me. Just keep on being "you", The Real One. Because this business is full of fake ones. God Bless. Great Show!
That’s amazing to hear! Great story 😊
Yeah. Jon is really an amazing man. So is Norman for that matter. I met him just after he joined the show, and he called me Sir. I was like....What??? He's also a genuinely a nice guy.
@@jhammer929 that makes me so happy to hear! I’ve heard that before about them. The worst is hearing the opposite about someone…it completely turns me off from them.
you guys were my childhood, my teen years & my current self
y'all made something that was truly unforgettable & I couldn't be more grateful for it
Without a doubt, hands down, Norman Reedus is the most down to earth actor I’ve ever seen interviewed. Success hasn’t changed him one iota.
I take my hat off to him for all he does and keeping busy all year round.
There is no show that brought me and my Dad together like this . Thanks guys
It’s heartwarming to see such genuine friendships and people that love each other so authentically. Love this congratulations to both of you and your families
Loved every bit of how real this episode is. Hope you and Norman keep staying healthy and happy all things considered in life. Thanks for the stories. Big fan of you both.
I'm a big fan of yours, Fridu!!! Love your Rust videos!
whaaaat Hi Fridu!
Man, it always seems to me like Jon was in more than 18 episodes just because of how good those 18 episodes were & how much of a leader Shane was to the group. Wish we got another couple of seasons of that dynamic.
Those early seasons of The Walking Dead really are special, you can feel that close connection with the whole cast.
All you needed was 18 episodes, Jon. Your performance was felt and reverberated in the show until the very end imo.
I just started replaying TellTales TWD again the other day. The comics, The first few seasons of the show, Telltales TWD. They all hold such a special place in my heart and so much nostalgia.
the moment Jon mentioned ppl watching twd with their fathers before they died 22:19 i immediately started crying. my dad passed in 2021 and i got the call WHILE i was rewatching twd for the millionth time. it was our comfort show to watch together
Thank you for sharing godbless you
Me too buddy… Every Sunday at 9pm was our TWD time together.
He passed from fentanyl March 18th, 2020.
Everytime i watch TWD, FTWD, or any of the spin offs it instantly reminds me of him.
Then I imagine our conversations we would have between the commercials.
And the getting told to SHHH because i would keep talking after the commercials would end.
Its hard sometimes but Id like to think that he’s somewhere above the clouds watching it with me still.
I miss him so much, He was my best buddy and the best dad i could ever ask for prior to him getting sick.
Im crying like a baby while trying to type this but thanks for sharing this, Made me feel abit better knowing we aren’t the only ones.
Thank you both for your dedication to a small show that grew to be a dynasty. You both help make TWD what it is today.
This man turned a joke into a series with hope, despair, loss and hype. He deserves every bit of recognition he has and even beyond that
3:31 bro getting those shane go insane looks💀💀
Inshane is real
it's like he's acting as shane 😯
I literally just commented about this lmao
@@autocyclepc2001 nice eddie van halen logo
@@Lemmy1-2roadcrew thanks👍🏼
you guys did it with heart and soul when TWD wasnt popular yet, no one knew you guys that good, but still you guys delivered that S1 & S2 so bruttaly convincing and build the thing up that your fans love now. Sure everyone comes after that cant be a part of the founding fathers cirle, thats a bond you cant recreate. i love to watch both of you, no matter the prodject.
I have been a big fan of Norman since the beginning of TWD. You could always tell he was a guy that fell into acting, someone who doesn't take his career too seriously. Him and Jon's friendship is also so pure. I could listen to them talk forever.
SUCH a good interview, I love how Jon lets the guest talk!!! Nothing kills me more than being interrupted when asked a question. Love Norman and Daryl, the new show is excellent even if it is in France, one of my all time favs in the show ❤
It’s awesome to see these actors be themselves. Like genuinely themselves. No scripts to follow, no character to play, just a conversation between two genuine people
I would love to see Andrew, Norman and Jon together, having a deep funny interesting conversation!
My son and I met both this year at the Atlanta Comicon. It was an amazing experience, so unbelievable. Love them.
I remember seeing Norman for the first time on Walking Dead, I was stoked since I knew him from Boondock Saints, such a great movie. Wish it would've gotten the attention it deserved when it came out. Absolute cult classic.
He is actually literally why I started watching the show in the first place. I waited and waited for him to come on screen then I did that whole pointing thing from that Leonardo DiCaprio meme when he finally did. I was super stoked to see him!
“And shepherds we shall be. For Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand. That our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee. And Teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomine Patris, et Fili, et Spiritus Sancti".
@@malicioustactics6846 Boondock Saints 1 and 2 were both so good plus funny. He was also in blaze 2 I think, not sure if it was 2, but he acted his part great in everything I've seen him in
I thought him and aaron paul was making the 3rd one?
@@JMN31394LOVEUALWAYS Blade 2, yes.
“CHOKEHOLDS ILLEGAL”
I crack up rewatching that scene
“File a complaint!”
@@hayatorpg3896 yeah first Shane chockholds Daryl, then seasons later Daryl does the same to Rick lmao
LMAO i love that scene
over a decade later and everyone I know still says "Shane!" when Bernthal appears on screen in other media. It may have been a short stint in the show in the scale of things but it had such a huge impact that you could still feel the presence of Shane (or the absence of him and how needed he was) all the way to the end. Absolutely phenomenal performance and deserves all the flowers.
man i can just listen to these two talk about just about anything forever. the real, real ones.
Sad story about the dog. Me too I cried when my dog died. I never showed it to my parents or siblings. I went in my little corner so nobody could see me and I bawled. Crazy how the bond you make with an animal can affect you emotionally. It never hits in the moment until it does.
Crazy how Daryl lasted this long. The OG crew carried the show. You could of have your own spin off too. Shane was such a character. People hated the decisions he made but he was all about keeping it real and stay grounded especially in the reality there were in.
1:58 the “mhm” from Norman reminds me of all the times he done that in TWD
This is the realest conversation I’ve heard between two celebrities, or even two people. You rarely get this perspective about a film project and experiences within the community of people working on it
Dude I really loved when you had Shia on, when people fall you pick them up. I'm not ignoring or excusing what he did, but I will recognize his change and his shame of who he was. Much like his victim did for him. Btw You and Norman need a project together.
It's crazy how much a shared experience can make people become close so damn quickly, awesome listen.
Jon, you really NEED to get Andrew and Steven on!
Norm seems very cool. I could listen to him for hours. Great interview, Jon.
Thank you 🙏🏼 can’t even speak on this right now bc I’m crying
So much respect for these two guys. For such successful actors, they just seem so down to earth and real. Setting a great example, especially the part Jon says about the responsibility of friendship. Wow, really moves me to know there are people that see it that way, what a beautiful thing. Good for him taking the heat about Shia, people don't change unless we engage with them and there are a limited number of people that can reach people in that kind of head space. Take responsibility, doesn't mean it will always work but you got to try. You'll learn something in the process, doesn't mean you condone whatever.
The show needed Jon just as much as Jon needed the show. There was never a point in Shane’s journey I didn’t believe
Man I was working out today and really feeling the weight of the world on my shoulders. Listening to this made me really feel refreshed. Amazing being a fly on the wall in this conversation. Thank you
I loved the walking dead show in its entirety. After Andrew left, it lost a bit of its touch for me. After Steven left, a lot of people lost touch with the show. (Not me because I loved Jeffery as negan) But I can say with full confidence, and everyone would agree, seasons 1-5/6 were some of the best television in history. There was something so special about every single character, and the actors did some of the best work I’ve seen to bring them to life. And Jon made such an impact in the beginning of the show, honestly I can say he carried the beginning of the show, alongside Andrew. Those two worked so well together, I wish Shane’s character was brought further along, even though we all obviously hated him haha. I would love to see more old co workers on the show Jon! Especially Andrew
Agree with this. Would love to see an alternate universe where certain characters like Shane didn’t die, to see where the characters would have ended up.
That was legitimately beautiful, thank u both for this episode
The camaraderie Norman and Jon talk about reminds me of the bond between the Band of Brothers Easy Company Taccoa men.
Thats why everyone loves seasons 1-4 of TWD the most, all the actors had this bond of real friendship and it showed through the screen.
I knew from the haircut on Jon this was a rebroadcast. Even Jon's hair has stories.
Nice to hear actors give crew shout outs. You can tell they were on the right sets early on in their career.
Wish we could get these guys plus Andy aka Rick on a podcast together! I know he's super busy & barely ever does appearences or interviews anymore, but it would be soo dope. DO IT FOR THE FANS Y'ALL!!! 👀
For only 18 episodes of The Walking Dead his impact is HUGE!! I go back and watch those early episodes to see HIM. I gotta say, I also have 2 of his action figures from the show and they're 2 of my favorites.
First two seasons are masterpiece for me. ❤
i was a single father when the walking dead came on tv it made me and my daughter bond every sunday was are time you both are Amazing Actors
18 episodes? Bro, youre immortal with that "WHO IS THAT, HUH? WHO IS THAT, HUH?!"
cheers from Poland
18 plus season he does scene in Woodbury, over 10hrs into show
My two favorite actors. So happy you made this
Always something cool about seeing these two
Truly not many other podcast can leave me satisfied watching an entire episode the way yours's does Jon. Appreciate what you do
The grittiness of the original seasons really sets it apart from later ones. It definitely shows.
I appreciate these conversations and thank you for just talking amongst friends. People get so caught up in the game and limelight when in actuality, just like you said, we all have more in common than what is portrayed on propaganda media. We're all human beings, and we have relationships with each other. You have worked with someone for years, you develop a relationship with that person, and you bond. People need to relax on the whole fanatatism of celebrities. Ya'll are just normal people who chose a different career path. We need to do more communicating. Drop the egos and just talk. You might find we have more in common with the folks we see on the screen than not. Much love to ya'll.
We've had Deborah and now Norman, REAL ONES is on a ROLL
some podcasts you can tell the ppl aren’t as close we think, but this one is like pure friendship it seems
My two favourite characters in the entire show! Hell yeah!!! Andrew should’ve been here too
Just finished watching this podcast with Norman Reedus. Was a GREAT watch guys thank you so much. Love from England 🏴
Much love jon, Favorite actor, human being.. everything brother big support!
There is so much energy and enthusiasm here. It's so easy to see why the first two seasons worked so incredibly well.
Crazy to me how Bernthal was only in the first 2 seasons. 19 episodes out of 177 and Shane is arguably still the most talked about character.
I'm learning so much from Jon Bernthal and this show, on both professional and personal, human fronts. This is so good. Love both these guys.
The moment "I beat your ass at ping pong" came up, I knew their friendship was genuine. 😂
Let’s go!! The original Walking Dead cast members in the house!! Love the chill vibe between Norman Reedus and Jon Bernthal, two good buddies hanging out. 😊
I'm sad that Jon didn't have more time on TWD because he absolutely smashed it on the Punisher series!
He deserved to be into the season when The Governor showed up!
Two positive souls, teaching each other positive things in this crazy life. Cheers
With how much Shane was favored by fans..
Jon Berthal should do a spinoff series where him & Randall left the farm together & survived at the bandit camp.. SHANE & RANDALL spin-off series! It would GO INSANE!
Been waiting for this one for a minute thank you!
This is a great episode! Jon, you portrayed Shane so convincingly in The Walking Dead that I can hardly see you as anything but a scumbag, haha! You were incredible in that role!!
As someone from DV, I really am glad you interviewed Shia. We have to nip this in the bud by addressing, not pretending it doesn’t exist.
These guys are just happier versions of their characters
Yeeees. I love Jon Bernthal's take on Norman Reedus' acting. That's why Daryl is my favorite. He's so authentic to who he is, and as tough as he is on the outside, he's so genuine and so tender. It's such a beautiful combination.
Yeah Jon's been great in so many movies and shows but I still always say "Shane from Walking Dead."
Hello John. This was great interview. Ironically I have only scene Season 1 of The Walking Dead. I saw you there and I have seen you in other things along the way. You have always brought a dangerous intensity to your roles, which I see even in this interview setting. For the longest time, and like many actors, I only knew you through the characters you play. Many of those characters haven't been good guys. That said, I discovered Real Ones though the interview you did with Shia Labeouf. Not only did I hear his heart related to his past, but I head some of yours as well. Your level of honesty and vulnerability and ability to speak harsh truths to those who may need to hear struck a cord in me. I am not familiar with many of your guests, but I plan to return because I like the 'REAL' you are sharing. I know there is still a level of performance, even on a podcast, but I like that you are talking about hard subjects and that your guest are willing to meet, as much as possible, in an honest environment.
My memory of the Walking Dead S1 is strong and I was disheartened by what happened to Frank Darabont. He is a favorite director and, in my mind, the creator of the look and feel of TWD.
Keep up the good work. I'm sure I'll be back even if I don't know what the hell is going on. Thanks, again, and be well brother.
I truly care for both of them, I love and enjoy their acting with Shane and how Daryl has changed and grown stronger through exp. And Bernthals role in Punisher was on point in my opinion, if I had to choose between RDJ and JB, in my opinion it would be balanced. Jon as Frank Castle was his fate, it is perfect. ❤
One of the best episodes!! Thanks guys!!
Norman!!!! Get Jon on Ride! I wanna see you two together on bikes.
Jon I have always thought it was a truly heroic, noble and inspiring of you to have Shia Leboeuf on your podcast. I can’t lie, your role as Shane kinda spoiled you as an actor for me (I was in junior high😂I’m 22 now) but after growing up a lot and especially after watching that episode, I faced my ignorance and realized how great you really are. I learned useful things from you and Shia watching that, and I learned quite a bit here too with Norman. Honestly, from poor man to cool man, you are a legend brother 💯