Can You Lift Thor's Hammer in Space?
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2018
- Only those are are worthy can lift Thor's might hammer, Mjolnir, but the Avengers' argument takes on a whole new meaning in space! So could anyone lift it there? Kyle talks weightless magic on this week's Because Science!
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Thank you so much for watching! I hope that everyone who celebrates had a wonderful holiday, and has a happy New Year. This video was a ton of fun (obviously) -- also the last main episode of our first year as a channel! I CANNOT WAIT to show you all the stuff we have coming up in 2019. Just finished a giant project at the end of this month for early next year. It's going to be awesome. -- kH
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but how is it that the more energy you use to "lift" it, the more mass is get? Comics said gravitons, but how about m=E/c² ?
How about strong fundamental forces, maybe a gluon field from trying to separate quark/anti-quark? The hammer could have anti-quark properties..but it's too quantum now, and I dont know how to calculate that. I'll just say that the hammer is the manifestation of m=E/c²,...or maybe Newton's 3rd law
At 3 minutes and 34 seconds into your video you mentioned forever. Forever is not a real physical thing you would only move until you ran into a equal or greater force.
I just have a slight correction to make, because I'm a Marvel nerd and I can't help myself. That comic book panel at 1:40 shows Red Hulk (AKA General Thaddeus E. "Thunderbolt" Ross), and not the Hulk (AKA Bruce Banner).
PS: I freaking love your show :)
It's not a hammer, it's a maul axe.
Why is Thor talking about himself in third person
Oml. I just made the same joke. Beat me too it 😅👌
@staris84 Ok i get it now
For it had been silly if he talk about himself in 4th person?
Whats 4'th person?
Rex Kenny what even is that?
Thor is teaching us how to rob his hammer 😆
i think you could wrap your hand around the handle in space and these special circumstances...but you could never "wield" it unless you were worthy... you can't control it, it won't come back to you, it won't pull you off
John Carlos yeah, but as soon as you get near anything with gravity, you’re going in like a meteor.
Actually, my theory has always been that mass has nothing to do with it. I mean, it doesn't actually seem to grow more massive - in that one scene in Age of Ultron, that would probably have broken the table Thor placed the hammer on, and when he uses it to hold the Hulk down, you would expect something that heavy to push Hulk into the ground, dent the floor, etc.
What we do know is that Mjolnir can legit fly, even in space, changing direction as needed. That pretty much means it can project some sort of invisible propulsive force. So I've always assumed that when someone unworthy tries to lift it, Mjolnir simply projects a force in the opposite direction which cancels out the force of the one trying to move it. This would make the hammer seem impossibly heavy without changing its mass, so no broken tables or the hammer sinking into the ground.
This would also mean it could resist being moved in space since it would be sorta like trying to push a spaceship while it's flying towards you with exactly the same amount of force you are applying to it, if that makes sense.
Yeah I also feel it's a gravity thing not a mass thing
@@neferpitou. gravity and mass are linked with one another. Saying something like that is like saying something has to do with charge instead of electricity. They do not come seperately
@@argr4sh yes but im not saying there's an increase in mass of the hammer I'm saying there's a change in the gravitational force around the hammer
It’s a mass thing because the canon material says it is. But gravity itself is usually a mass thing (though it can be an acceleration thing let’s not even try that okay?). It being a gravity thing would literally make the zero gravity/weightless argument in the comics not make sense. It being a kinetic force thing (acceleration okay we can talk about it) would also work but kinetic force and kinetic energy can be attributed to mass and gravity. The problem with this is that kinetic force is absolute. It could in theory make its kinetic force 0 at any time despite weight by making its potential energy go up (some weird conversions where as you push it transfers all that force into potential energy instead of attributing it to kinetic energy) or it could make its net velocity 0 by using kinetic force equal to the force put upon it the literal opposite direction. Both of these would make the example where characters not worthy moved it in certain area (ie. space) not make sense.
Well if you want to get all **technical** about it then:
Mjolnir can only be moved (wielded) by someone worthy because, if anyone else tried to, it says to the surrounding universe "Nope, not happening" and the universe complies and the hammer doesn't move.
's basic science, really.
Can you lift Thor's hammer in space?
*Well yes, but actually no.*
Plot twist: Kyle _is_ Thor
You're onto something
What if you lift thor holding the hammer?
Explains why he has the hair a god
That's the most obvious thing ever
Plot twist: Kyle *isn’t* Thor
in space, thors hammer lifts you.
commentor2013 Also in Soviet Russia
Nice.
On Earth, you lift'nt Thor's hammer?
omg, this comment is underrated, lmao
In space no one can hear you laughing at this joke stop hammer time!
Now I want to see a battle where someone(spiderman? )basically uses the hammer has a fixed point from which to control their mobility In the fight. Basically using the inability to move the hammer to their advantage
The question is wether the hammer can be moeved by objects. I mean it can be stopped by things like cap's shield or the good old elevator. Which brings the question wether I could use it by just putting on some gloves! :D
It was destroyed so no
That would be a bit of a downer, though.
"Ha Ha! Foul villian, I have defeated you by my....um...unworthiness"
It’d be awesome if someone assumed they were unworthy and tried to pull themselves and smashed their face 🤣 like you stated if Spider-Man attempted to sling off of it
That happened in Endgame
Daaamn. That webslingers comment was cold.
I thought the same thing lol too soon
"He's not using them right now". 😄
He's dead man
Yea. That was spicy
Those six words killed me inside
Savage
"He's waiting for his obvious revival in the upcoming Infinity War sequel." would have been another way to put it.
After Hela destroyed Mjolnir, could you pick up one of the pieces?
Well the "worthiness enchantment" most likely broke so now its just about the weight of uru
I would say yes, as the "spell" put on it regarding worthiness would have been broken.
braingasim We would all be dead if mjolnir broke into pieces on earth
I think the comics says that the rules apply even to the small fragments. That's why we have the frog-thor character. Sorry, dont know the name
@@Luxito_DeWarlock I wasn't talking about the actual destruction of the hammer. Kyle did an episode about that I believe. I was referring to the pieces.
Kyle....man... that was cold. "Don't worry, he's not using them right now." As a reference to Spider-man's web shooters. Wow.
The real test would be to put the hammer on top of a weight scale and meassure if there is any change of mass whenever an unworthy person lifts it.
this is just like the question in age of Ultron ....Tony,Steve and Thor ask what if mjolnir was inside an elevator? will it go up or just pummels to the ground
Mind = blown
Easy, the scale won't (need to) change. As soon as it (the hammer) detects an upwards force it just needs to counteract those with the exact amount downwards, thus negating it. 10+5-5 = 10
It doesn't really change mass. It's the magic enchantment that stops it from being moved not the actual weight of the object. You could be strong enough to bench press the weight of a galaxy and still not be able to even budge for if you're that unworthy. The only way to lift it by cheating is by have power that surpasses Odin's magic. If it were just about weight then hundreds of characters who have failed to lift Mjolnir in the past would have lifted it with ease.
@@supersaiyangoddess4293 so basically bullshit reason, aka "magic".
What keeps me up at night (because I'm a hopeless nerd) is how Mjolnir can differentiate between being on something vs in something.
We've seen Thor set Mjolnir on people and objects to pin them down, but Thor has also set it down inside the quinjet without stopping the jet from moving. So how does Mjolnir decide when to be moveable relative to what it is on/in?
Teru Kage it’s sentient.
Could Dum-E (Tony Stark's fire extinguisher robot in Iron Man 1) lift the hammer? Could Ultron?
Edit: Wait, did Vision only pick up the hammer because he is a machine?
@@dario3 mind gem
Or perhaps it has the capability to detect intentions.
@@yeahkeen2905 So it has some sort of Asgardian AI? Sure would explain how it can constantly change directions mid-flight 😄
There’s a lot thing in the marvel universe that can withstand or lift Thor’s hammer (dc characters don’t count)
Captain America
Thor
the earth
Hella
Vision
Stan the man
That glass table
The op coat rack
The guy in the comments after 7 monster energy drinks
The elevator
Lara Croft
Kyle hill
Asgard
Hela, Vision and Stan Lee can too
Well... Wonder Woman and Superman too...
Table
ferdonandebull Superman is DC right?
@@thatsstoguy In the Avengers/JLA Crossover in the early 2000s, Superman can lift the hammer. He is worthy.
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Did you really think I would do that?!
*THANK YOUU!!*
totally should have
*_I never knew THIS Thor is good at being a scientist than Bruce Banner._*
Well if Sandra Bullock could be messing with satellites and crap in Gravity, I'm guessing Dr Donald Blake MD could mess around with some physics as well.
RIP english
@@kobi3047 is there salt in space
Friendship why just why
Did you forget, all his body is brains.
Kyle, canonically the hammer's general mass is about 42 lbs. Thor weighs about 600 lbs.
When Thor flies he's actually throwing his hammer with enough force to carry himself along for the ride.
How fast does Thor have to throw the hammer, or how much strength is required to throw the hammer to move Thor 1 KM at a decent speed?
It doesn't have to be that massive. So for one, if the hammer flight is powered by Thor's arm (possibly not since it can move on it's own) and the thing that propels him is the hammer's mass the hammer couldn't move Thor any faster than he could swing the hammer. That's not what you asked, but it's related. Thor doesn't really swing it at superhuman speed. Not that he couldn't, he just doesn't seem to. So say he's swinging it at a pro baseball pitcher's speed. That tops out at around 160 Km/h but probably a bit faster because the handle would act like a longer arm. A sling can hurl a stone at 220 Km/h so that might be a better gauge. For instance if the hammer just made itself as massive as Thor (270 Kg) the energy of the throw would be split between the hammer and Thor's momentum and both go flying off at 110 Km/h. The thing is that a lot of the time, the hammer's flight path is pretty flat so it would have to be much more massive than Thor to pull off something like that. Still, if it became ten times more massive (2700 Kg) it wouldn't be that heavy compared to how heavy it would have to become so that the Hulk couldn't lift it.
@@emmettobrian1874 I'm not talking about changing the mass of the hammer though. That's not how it works in the canon media. That's how Kyle wants it to work, but that doesn't mean it's how it works. I want to know how fast he would have to throw a 42lbs hammer to lift himself off the ground and get hurled a kilometer down the road.
Throwing yourself is the issue. How much energy would Thor have to put into an object that light (comparatively) to be able to move himself.
Edit: Hammer is 42 lbs, not KG. My mistake.
@@Saimeren Ah got it. Just run the equation in reverse. The hammer is about 1/14th of Thor's mass, so multiply the velocity you want Thor to move at by 14 to get the speed the hammer would have to move at?
@@emmettobrian1874 thor can spin it at the speed of light in the comics i believe
@@Saimeren that equations actually alot simpler than you think. As it essentially comes down to him not throwing the hammer, it's him throwing himself, just with the hammer in front. Basically you need to decide some things in advance tho, how much does Thor weigh, is he travelling in a straight line, or an arch with gravity, and how fast he is travelling the 1km also does he need to stop when he gets there, either via landing, air resistance or just gravity slowing him to a stop (or a combination of the 3).
Oh almost forget, you also need the weight and length of his arm, and possibly his shoulder height. Ok so the maths not as simple as I hoped, but it's doable. First figure out the force required to travel the distance in your chosen flight, that's the energy required from the throw, now using more math figure out how fast his throw would need to be so that when his arm stopped moving it would have the appropriate velocity to deliver the force in the direction needed.
I am not doing that math.
Kyle (Because Science) = Thor
James (The Hacksmith) = Captain America
GreatScott = Iron Man
Dibbles Villard if you are talking about looks than sure but based on other things the hacksmith is every hero
The Canadian dude is Captain America?
@@scroogemacduck2875 Yep
Hi Kyle I just want to say even though I'm not as booksmart as you I still love your show because of your upbeat attitude and excitement. Your show always seems to make me cheer up from the most stressful of times
Even mjolnir knows that kyle is discount thor
"Discount" pfft -- kH
@@becausescience Until you make the Wakanda Thor entrance, then you will be Thor!!
This video was MASS-ively nerdy, Thor.
BOOO nice -- kH
Alternate Theory:
Mjolnir was (as Odin told Thor) meant to be a focus for his lightning abilities. Thus, Mjolnir is some sort of mega conductor for EM forces. Therefore, it's all done with magnets. So, just as epic but done differently, Mjolnir does not move/not-move by messing with their own mass/gravity, but via hyper refined super powerful mag-lev. (This is one plausible explanation why Mjolnir stuck to the deck of the helecarrier when Hulk tried to lift it, without causing the ship to plummet.)
One the other hand, a trillion kg Mjolnir in space means that you could stand on it.
He did say it’s an enchantment so no
I feel like a better explanation rather than Mjolnir increasing in Mass, would be that it is exerting a Force equally opposite to that being exerted upon it. Which both makes more sense, And prevents objects that it is placed upon while it is trying to be lifted, (i.e. the coffee table in Starks living room among many others), from being crushed under it's new mass. Also at what point would it's physical radius become smaller than it's Schwarchild radius, and in effect turn Mjolnir into a black hole?
That is what's happening. Is called the Odinforce.
which would also explain how the hammer flies
Well if it created the exact density/mass to counter the pulling force on it then the coffee table would not experience any change in weight ! However what would it do if pushed on with the amount of force to break the coffee table ? Would it also use anti gravitational forces against the Earth or closest substance of mass to remain suspended in place floating or would it fall to the next static point ? All interesting thought experiments
Please talk about how slip space works from halo
Yes
And light bridges
5:14 that is so awesome, Odinson! XD Anyway, you forgot about relativity. You can hold on to the handle of Thor's hammer in space, and in trying to lift it, the forces you apply to the hammer through your arm and muscles would have an equal and opposite reaction on your body, repositioning yourself in such a way that if you look at yourself from a different angle, you are indeed lifting it, or, if you use yourself as a point of reference, instead of you moving yourself down trying to lift the hammer, you are effectively moving the hammer above you. I mean... assuming the gravitational pull of the massive hammer doesn't spaghettify you before you even get close to it. Actually... if you tried to lift Mjolnir in an indestructible planet and you were strong enough, would you push the planet down instead of lifting up the hammer, kinda like Chuck Norris does every time he does a push up, or should I say, "push down"?
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thinking out of the box
I appreciate how much fun you guys had with this one!
I'd imagine you could use it like a pull up bar in space. You couldn't move it, only yourself with it. So if it was floating away, and you grabbed it, you'd go flying with it like Quicksilver in Age of Ultron.
I always thought of Mjolnir as a precision instrument, capable of regulating gravitational effects on itself, whether increasing or decreasing it, and sometimes in different ways simultaneously that should be mutually exclusive. This effect was probably extended to the wielder as well, allowing Thor to fly. This ability would account for not only its ability to be "immovable" but the non-parabolic flight it often has at sub-ballistic speed.
A great example of this is at the beginning of Ragnarok when Thor fights Surtur's demons and Mjolnir "orbits" Thor while he's using his fists. The hammer describes an orbit around Thor, stays consistently about four feet off the ground(defying the planet's gravity which should pull it downward in a second or so) yet is pretty much irresistible to anything it encounters (implying a significant mass/force) yet is only moving at about the speed of a football thrown by a quarterback, if that. We're observing different effects in this single shot that have Mjolnir seem both very light and very heavy at the same time.
For all we know, Uru is actually very light, and every time it impacts a target it optimizes gravity's effect to make it hit exactly as Thor intends. After all, Vision did comment how "perfectly balanced" it was, not to mention Thor casually hanging it on Darcy's coat rack towards the end of Dark World.
Simple if you're unworthy you're stuck in the trajectory the hammer is going as technically the hammer is it's own object.
Agreed, Like if you handstand you're holding the Earth.. 🤔🤔
And that's why It's different with the eye of odin never forget that
Thank you, Mr Hill, for all the excellent videos this year.
Oh god. He has been a supervillain far longer than we suspected.
I actually got thinking about this one the minute you announced it in your last Footnotes episode! I anticipated a similar problem to what you briefly discussed at 4:48. As almost an immediate reaction to the question, I realized that the hammer would increase its mass until it stuck to you like a magnet, because plot twist: you are a surface. At this point, you'd better stop bugging the hammer or really bad things are going to happen.
If, for example, Mjolnir keeps increasing its mass past a certain point, its surface gravity will exert 409 g, my estimation of the surface gravity needed to break the strongest bone in your body: the femur. This is thanks to a figure you shared in your superhero landing episode. Mjolnir would break every bone in your body! If it gained even more weight all of your bones would dissolve under its gravity, transforming you into a disgusting, evenly dispersed tiny ocean of squishyness burying a magic hammer lifelessly floating through space forever.
Never mess with the hammer.
Kyle is worthy enough that he can lift thors hammer wait kyle is thor right?
staris84 actually the multiverse is a marvel thing too.
He's a budget internet Thor, but still Thor.
Thor's little brother maybe thimble?
That's what I thought...
8:34 "That's what I would do if I was...evil... But I'm not... Because Thor."
I think an interesting interpretation of Mjolnir is that it has absolute control over its location in space, so when it doesn't want to be lifted it just looks itself in space relative to whatever surface it's resting on.
So, what I'm understanding is that if you're more massive and can transfer more momentum, THEN you can move Mjolnir usefully...so it's still only the Swollest heroes.
Sean the Bawse yeah but Mjolnir will just make itself more massive.
Well if Weightman (a super specific hero I just invented) would use his power of mass-gain (which can give him an infinitely big BMI) he could use the hammer. Well that is if he doesn't act as his own gravityfield and become a neutron star.
1:55 *is flooding house with tears* too soon Kyle, too soon.
Of course i totally understand ur brilliant comment...
But u should explain it to those
who dont...
Maybe as a answer to my commet???
@@keffkeff160 I don't get it
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I wish we had the chance to have some of the iconic moments from the comics in the mcu, like cap lifting Thor’s hammer out of sheer worthiness, or Thanos breaking his shield, which could be a really shocking moment on both accounts because of several scenes dedicated to their respective properties
Honestly I think the most high effort part of any Because Science Video is the wordplay pun when the video starts
I know this gets old, but seeing thor talking about his hammer is heavy.
Even if you couldn’t move the hammer in space you could swing Thor who would be holding the hammer in order to use it. Lovesies. Big fan.
5:12 who knew that stopping Thanos from snapping half the universe out of existence was as easy as saying "stop it"
“LOOK AT MY HAIR”
Getting real meta there
If you didn't have gravity or friction like in space and you went to lift up the hammer. Wouldn't you move in the opposite direction? So your perspective you would be lifting the hammer, but in the hammers perspective it would be pushing you down. Correct?
Dave Long technically yes, if you were to, say, squat and try to pull/lift the hammer up, from your perspective you would be pulling the hammer towards yourself, but from the hammers perspective it would be pulling you closer to itself... so uh... I dunno how that really works.
Why was the flash able to touch wonder woman’s sword blade in the justice league movie
Good question
Because it is made of mass that is not untouchable
Don't Censor I mean the blade. Wonder woman’s sword is able to carve electrons off atoms or something (I don’t know if that carried over to the movies) but that shouldn’t change in slow motion
Remember the flash has control over all molecules via vibration. You can't do it in real life but it's possible in the DC universe for him to vibrate his molecules so fast in his hand that it wouldn't cut him
Harry Greenaway Hm ok. Although I don’t know if he would know to do that in the movie because he was super inexperienced
It's really fun learning science with you. You make comics feel so real. Hope you continue this forever. Wish you all the luck for the new year😊.
My question was that you said that Thor's hammer would kill us if we are very far away from it but it would only increase it's mass if someone tries to lift it or else it would be very less in mass. It would not attract us even if we are near it unless someone is trying to lift it.
And if we even try to lift it so the hammer will start to attract other celestial objects resulting in those celestial objects to crush us.
Happy New year, NerdThor!
There's an important difference between lift and wield.
But would you want to?
3:12 that's cold, man. Love it.
I love that callback to the original comics in the intro
But could an elevator lift Thor's hammer?
Only if the elevator is worthy.
Yes an elevator could lift Thor's hammer if Thor put his hammer in the trunk of your car you could still drive around because that's moving the hammer not wielding the hammer the same way the Earth doesn't stop orbiting the sun when Thor sets the hammer on the ground it's not the same as a being grabbing hold of the hammer in trying to swing it around
Still goes up... -- kH
So if Thor places the hammer on a rug can you slide it?
@@DanielRieger no, because it's hard to move a rug while someone is standing on it, so imagine how impossible it would be to move it it the heaviest object ever was on it.
Who's Marcus?
Wait did you make this video for me!?!
Oh joy
Kyle love your video, a video on Neutron Stars would be fab
"Don't worry, he's not using them right now."
That was cold.
What if the hammer does not actually change its mass but rather it uses some form of hypnotic suggestion to make those trying to lift it think that it is heavy (or unliftable) but actually they're barely putting any force into trying to pick it up. Think a mime pushing against a balloon. It is a magic hammer after all.
But how would someone not knowing about it's properties get to know of it? I mean quicksilver in Age of Ultron tries to use the hammer but spectacularly fails to do so without thinking he couldn't he's pretty confused afterwards ;)
That's the point, it's not Thor planting the suggestion but the hammer itself. If the hammer is the one using some form of hypnotic suggestion then it wouldn't matter if the person knew of its properties or not. Also, the Quicksilver moment from Age of Ultron could still be explained by this; the hammer planted the suggestion when Quicksilver touched it so he actually put no effort into trying to move it himself and was therefore pulled by its momentum from Thor's throw. He did try catch a god's hammer mid-flight, he's going to be affected by its momentum if he's not putting in a lot of effort to stop it.
@@McDDcM Not saying the idea isn't f***ing awsome, but when he holds on to the hammer he couldn't be pulled that far with just the hammers momentum (his mass is to big).
Thanks for liking my theory. To try and cover the Quicksilver thing, we could consider that the hammer is made of Uru (so its mass may be much larger than an earth made hammer of similar dimensions) and it was thrown by a god (who can take a punch from the Hulk) so would be travelling with a lot of force behind it. Therefore, Quicksilver lazily (due to the hypnotic suggestion) trying to catch it would still result in him being pulled off his feet by the hammer. I’m picturing him basically trying to stop something mid-flight that’s the weight of a small car but the size of a hammer travelling at say 47m/s (this is based on the fastest recorded baseball pitch). I think he would still be pulled off his feet, especially if we consider that Mjolnir implants the suggestion of not actually putting in your full strength. On the other hand, Quicksilver was travelling at superhuman speed at he time he tried to catch it so the inherent strength and momentum he would have while travelling at such speeds might negate the velocity of the hammer despite it being thrown by Thor and being heavier than expected.
When hulk tried to lift it, it put his feet through the ground.
So if you are strong enough to move planets (like Thanos or someone like him) it will turn its self into a black hole before it lets you lift it?
Yeah, but you'd be spaghettified by tidal forces long before it got to that point.
Damn, talk about *if i cant then no one can* 😂😂
Moving planets doesn't put you anywhere close to qualified to lift Mjolnir lmao. Base Thor can move a planet. Base as in the weakest incarnation of Thor ever.
Thanos can actually lift Thor’s hammer in the comics because his powers cancel the enchantment.
"like Spiderman's webshooters - don't worry, he's not using them right now" - missed opportunity for a dissolve transition.
Okay, so citing Avengers 122 was awesome. I have been binging on your videos in recent days as breaks while doing course prep (I'm a university instructor in the humanities) and I love your stuff. I think this is my first comment on one of your videos. Thank you. Oh and just to add to the different contexts within which the hammer can be wielded, it has also been wielded by non-flesh means; i.e., mechanical means or mechanical beings or through manipulation of the earth/nature. But that exception has less to do with physics than magic ... or hair ... or Odin's missing eye patch (damn you, Loki, where's my eye patch?).
If they fought in the void, Kyle would beat Thanos with the infinity gauntlet.
So could the flash, almost instantly.
Hey Kyle great show, love the hair! If Thor’s hammer was in space and an unworthy person grabbed the hammer as it was passing the Karmen line heading towards earth, would the earth be destroyed? Would the hammer increase its mass to be greater than the earth and pull the earth to it. if a person is holding the hammer and earth begins to pull on both the hammer and individual does it then becomes the dominant force. would that then make the earth worthy? Your thoughts?
If we go with just the basic "counter-acts force by making itself heavier", then it'd only ever need to be heavy enough to out-do the one trying to lift/move it.
So unless we're talking super-mega-hulk or whatever, I don't think it'd need to become terribly heavy.
Well I would think that the person grabing Mjölnir would move along with it and thus only hold onto it but not wield it (=being able to change its direction). Also the Hammer is affected by gravity in a normal way, meaning it gets attracted. So, in a way, ANY gravitational source could move the Hammer. One could argue though if attraction by gravity is "moving" at all, as gravity bends spacetime and an object is only following that path of spacetime curvature and gravity is only a kind of "pseudo force" in that model of thought.
Phazz yeah my point was that if the earth’s gravity counts as a force trying to move the hammer. would the hammer generate enough mass to pull the earth to itself. What I’m referring to is Thor #132 where they 1st introduced Ego the Living Planet. They never specified on if Ego could hold Thor’s hammer, he is a planet so does resting the hammer on egos surface count as lifting it? If so then we discovered that the hammer has a limit to how much mass it can have or Ego is worthy or planets are excluded from the hammer’s abilities or the hammer is resting on his surface is because the hammer has greater mass and Ego is resting on the hammer’s surface.
Zünder then in Thor 132 when they introduce Ego the Living planet if Thor dropped his hammer down on Ego surface that would mean that Ego has lifted the hammer wouldn’t it? His surface is his flesh
@@d.mat.zero6525 Not sure, but a possible litmus test is that the hammer doesn't care if it's lifted by something that cannot become the new Thor. Maybe Ego isn't eligible? I don't know why it wouldn't be, but… maybe?
You should do a formula for how hot an item would need to be to heat a room. Love your videos
I'm just happy i thought of Kyle's answer before watching the video :D
*Where is everyon... of yeah :(*
Except, emitting gravitons wouldn't make you more massive, it'd just make you be effected more by gravity. Conservation of mass and all that stuff prevents that. I mean possibly the emiting of gravitons could be using gravity to help you swing it despite it always weighing that amount, and make it seem like it weighs less than it does, but then that'd be a lot more powerful than just lightning, as thor's hammer could pull on any part of the universe to move itself and that object in any way. When it returns to thor it wouldn't be pulling on thor as that would rip thor apart into a goo, but then thor should be able to do that to his enemies. Just imagine the power Thor could weild, being able to use his hammer as a tractor beam, and he wouldn't shoot off as the hammer would still be as massive as it is.
just gonna leave my comment here in the hopes that i get featured in footnotes
lol
3:08 "Mr. Stark, I don't feel so good"
Please...please never stop making videos...sooooo much awesomeness with your explaining and funny with your jokes hahahahahaa lol 😂😂😂😂👍
why does he keep referring to himself in third person?
He's not, when he says you he is talking about us, the viewers. Not himself
He keep saying thpr which is himself
@@kaenryuuart543 thpr isn't his name. His name is Kyle, and when in the video did he say his name.
@@sorashadow9775 It's a joke. He looks like Thor, so the joke is whenever he says Thor he is speaking about himself in third person.
@@marcushillerstrom25 oh
You keep saying lift. there is no lift in space, only movement.
Yes... I guess since Spidey is cosmic dust now he doesn’t need them web shooters...
Thank you for your detailed explanation of your hammer Thor.
😂😂Look up Thor teaches you science and this is like the 3rd thing
I cant get over the fact that you look like thor
You look like Thor
@@damon3459 no, you look like Thor
Holy shit, that outro made me jump for a second. Completely forgot that he usually acknowledges the guy bringing up the question in the first place.
I have always assumed that Mjolnir has a some means of connecting itself (by some means that I don't understand) to a variable amount (controlled only by someone Worthy) of extradimensional mass, essentially giving it (nearly) infinite inertia. Kind of like those select-a-weight dumbbells, but with each additional plate in an additional dimension in the ana/kata directions.
So what if the entire population of humans were to collect in concentration and all jump on different parts of Earth (in regards to composition, crust/land thickness, altitude, etc)?
Nothing would happen, the mass of all humans compared to the earth is miniscule. Even if you had 100 billion humans, the earth would simply be too massive. The mass of 100 billion humans would only amount to 7,5238095238095E-17% (this is a very small number) of the earth's, so 7 billion would be a lot less.
There is actually a video about this by another channel that explains how small and light all of humanity is compared to the earth. We could all uncomfortable fit into 1 state and even if everyone was perfectly coordinated, we would weight a fraction of a fraction of the earth's mass
Vsaue did a video on that it was really interesting
I think the real question is would Thor's Hammer have it's own Gravity?
Everything has its own gravity
@@chestersnap Obviously, I meant noticeable gravity...
Well, it is made from the metal of a neutron star, right? So it should be super massive and insanely heavy (which means having its own noticeable gravity).
What if one of the hammer's enchantments is the ability to mask its own mass, and it just selectively weakens that enchantment for those who aren't worthy?
Mjolnir: why is discount Thor teasing me? I'm not moving!
Love the Beard Kyle! Super cool! ;)
I hate to be "that guy" but technically the hammer is always moving. The earth and Galaxy are always spinning. The correct terminology is unwieldable.
Don’t hate to be ‘that guy’, the entire point of this channel is TO BE ‘that guy’
On that scale, yes. But at a local scale, unmovable is still adequate.
Ha.. “This guy” 👀😂😂
But planet Earth is worthy of wielding Thor's hammer. Think about that.
Mjolnir won’t stop a planet or a galaxy from moving just like it wouldn’t stop an elevator or the quinjet from moving...
I hate all the new Spiderman burn memes~
(Classic Peter would never allow this)
How I love seeing Thor teach science and discuss Mjölnir.
Hey Kyle, love the show, just recently purchased a because science T-shirt and it my new favourite apparel. I was wondering what infinity stones are capable of moving Mjolnir and if Thanos could weild it using the reality stone. Thanks.
But could superman lift thor's hammer?
Yes. Not the 'Man of Steel' version, but the Boy Scout version 😉
I understand why Kal El can Lift thors Hammer because mjorlnir And the eye of odin sees what kal-el is trying to do And well We could see that happen And After seeing How hurt he was trying to kill someone like general Zod And I Think the eye of odin understand why he doesn't want to kill Can I think there might be a chance where he can lift It But however If he Can't Then that means there must be other requirements that he needs to work on.😇✊🤘
3:15 - Joke's on you! Those web shooters flaked out with Parker, so... Yeah, that.
So in the midst of space it sort of becomes Schrödinger's Mjolnir? Love your passion for all things science & nerdy, its obviously present in all of your uploads! Can I give you the title of MASTER NERD!? (*insert sound effect*)
I love your show. I was wondering if you could do an episode based on the movie down sizing?
Hey Kyle, love your Content.
Would you ever make an Episode related to MtG? Want to know how fast that Planeswalkers really are.
"Don't worry he's not using them right now" *OOOOOF*
Hey Kyle, another awesome episode, quick question concerning your mention of if thors hammer made itself more massive it would pull you to it. If it were to become massive like that of a neutron star, would its gravitational pull on you towards it be so great that if you collided with it, it could possibly create a black hole?
I'd actually love a scene where Hulk tries to lift it again, and keeps pulling harder and harder buying his legs in the ground and nearby the avengers scream at him to stop, but his rage has him focused on finally beating this stupid hammer... and Black Widow is trying to get close to calm him down and her hair starts to float toward the hammer, along with the dust, air, and debris around all slowly rolling and drifting towards the hammer... it's ever increasing mass slowly overcoming the local gravity of earth.. She gets closer and looks like she's walking downhill now.. she slips and starts sliding toward the hammer... being pulled to them... as Hulk screams and yells and pulls at the hammer... she yells out to him "Bruce! STOP! Look what you're doing!" He looks at her struggling on the ground sliding toward the hammer, dirt and debris piled up around it, air swirling toward them, a nearby tree, branches bending toward the hammer, leaves falling the wrong way, straight toward is hands... this potentially catastrophic event triggers Banners scientific mind and he stops...
The tree bends back, the air calms Natasha flops down, and everything settles ...
Hulk just looks around and goes... "Stupid hammer... Hulk don't need hammer anyway!" and he walks away.
Natasha looks over at Tony, and Cap... Tony recognizes the potential chaos they averted, Cap doesn't understand why but he knows that could've been bad...
Who knows... maybe they might need _bad_ sometime soon ;]
Maybe sometime later, in space, the Avengers ship is destroyed, they start to float away in space and maybe Hulk is near Doc Strange or Wong... Hulk, (now intelligent with Banners mind) has an idea, He asks Thor to throw his hammer at him, Wong on his back makes a magic platform for the hammer to land on, and Banner grabs the hammer and begins to pull... harder and harder... Wong starts to sweat... his platform struggles under the power of Hulks massively powerful feet! Threatening to shatter this magic platform Banner pulls harder and harder on the hammer... First, Cap, being closest starts to slowly stop drifting away... Banner struggles, grits his teeth and looks tired.. Wong now sweating hard, looking very tired as well... Falcon, unconscious is getting further away! Cap yells, "BANNER! C'MON! PULL HARDER PAL! You can do this! We need you!" Cap starts slowly drifting toward Banner, but Banner has reached his limit! He just isn't as angry as the big guy..
cut to an inner monologue...
In a vast dark open space, with a dull glowing green light all around... Banner sees Hulk sitting, angry.. just staring through some sort of portal, representing Hulk/Banners eyes, watching life happen... listening to Cap, as an echo all around "Banner! Please! We need you! We need the Hulk! You can do this!" Seeing Natasha "Come on big guy! We know you can do this! You're the only one who can!"
As banner approaches, and puts his hand on his massive shoulder, Hulk flinches and snaps his head around.. "Go away!" Swats Banner and he dissolves like smoke.. Banner reappears in front of him "No. They need you. You see what's happening. You don't want to lose them. Lose _her._ Do you?" Hulk growls "This what you wanted. Now you control both! You got rid of Hulk. You only want Hulk when in trouble! Only when in trouble! From now on.. you solve. Now you strong! Smart, _and_ strong. Now Hulk... nothing. Just... WATCH! JUST WATCH! ONLY WATCH! NEVER AM!" as he bursts up, swatting and smashing and destroying the Banner illusion over and over..
Banner says "I only took control to show people what everyone already knew, what _they_ already knew. Hulk is a hero. You are. You just aren't good at showing it. All those times you saved everyone. That was _YOU!_ Not me. Hulk. It takes true strength to be a hero. More strength than I have. So, Hulk. Be a hero. Be the strongest there is, prove our friends right for believing in you."
Cap getting closer to Hulk now, still calling out to him on comms, sees Wong struggling to keep his platform together.. he sees Hulk look over, a slight smile comes across his big green face and he looks down at the hammer, eyes now glowing green, muscles rippling... *"STUPID HAMMMEEER! HULK. IS. STRONGEST THERE IS! GWRAAAAAHGGGGG"* He pulls hard, causing cracks to form in the glowing platform, Wong now past his limit, looks as though he was punched in the gut! "Hurry Hulk! I cannot do this forever! We must... hurry!"
Hulk pulls harder and harder and Cap picks up speed and lands on Hulks back. "Great job! Keep up the good work pal! I knew you could do it!"
One by one the Avengers float toward Hulk and are all together safe, the injured and unconscious ones now safe and Hulk and Wong can finally relax.
Thor grabs the hammer, he and Hulk lock hands and with a quick spin of the hammer the Avengers are off and flying.
(My excuse is that Thor can only fly in long straight lines, and can't control direction well enough in space.. he couldn't gather them up.. whatever. It's just a cool scene I thought up. Whatever. Haha)
This video would have been so helpful before my physics paper !
Love this channel so much! Kyle you're like if Thor had a son who wielded markers into theoretical battle bro!!
"Spiderman's webshooters... don't worry, he's not using them right now..." - hahahahaha yes!!!
0:14 Mjolnir is capable of undoing Kyle's ponytail!
PLEASE do a video analyzing the science of the meteor from Age of Ultron.
Marcus: You are welcome!
Just by the title i would assume the answer would be not lifting it but just hanging on to it as it floats through space
i love how Kyle pay homage to the umbrella transformation to Mjolnir