Fear The Walking Dead S1E6: Walkers Invade The Military Base
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Always loved this scene it's awesome to see the military to go up against zombies well they don't call them that.
Tho is it just me or did they portray the military just dumb 🤔
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I don't get the incompetence of this scene.
Those both soldiers would have been enough to kill all 2,000 zombies since they are so slow and after a while their bodies would create a barricade.
You can see the writers got lazy and set their accuracy to "Stormtrooper" literally shooting at the ground.
Also the military would have placed scouts and snipers to see incoming hordes or gangsters from a far. Not to mention, that they build a base behind a huge corner lol.
We also have seen the military use grenades before in the library and they had tanks, why is no one using anything?
I know I love and hate this scene it had no logic and I agree with what ur saying maybe one day we'll get a better scenario like this one but with no lazy writing
keep in mind, this is not based on our universe, theres no zombie fiction, so no one would really know what to do in the start of the apocalypse,
also, as moyers said, most of the soldiers arent really trained, they just went on duty because of the zombies, realisticly, throwing a frag grenade at the zombies wouldnt be the best idea, considering the only "cover" they have is a large fence with holes, the shrapnel would be really dangerous
@@user-ft8wz3el5k They dont have to throw the grenade right in front of the gate. I agree on that duty part tho, probably many were panicking/stressed when they saw thousands of undead which made them miss every bullet
@@HELLFIRE0239 i think that they probably landed most of the bullets fired, but just not in the head, the watchtower soldiers had an assault rifle and a light machine gun, not the most accurate weapons considering the panic of the situation
The zombies have plot armor
Due to budget cuts in the military, they stopped supplying soldiers with hand grenades.
Lmao nice one
Imagine if this made into canon.
No you mean actually hitting smth after they are off screen for 1sec.
And shooting classes
They also supply them weapons that were manufactured from China since they barely killed any zombies
In the actual comic series, The Walking Dead military didnt fall to the walkers.
It actually disbanded as most of the troops available ended up abandoning their posts to save their friends and family. This caused immediate supply issues as entire lines of supplies fell and only worsened the desertion issue.
The Governors people for example got most of the stuff from a abandoned supply depot. One that was presumably meant to supply Atlanta.
The telltale series set in the same universe mentions a army base being abandoned save for infected and one survivor named Mark who was surviving off the commissary food.
More realistic imo
This honestly seems alot more realistic than having EVERY single member of the military be a terrible shot and have the IQ of a goldfish
Pretty much the same thing that happens in the old Romero films, too. Law enforcement completely fell apart because too many people took their guns and ran.
In Walking Dead everyone is infected and reanimates after death, making incredibly difficult to cointain infection by normal means. You put up a blockade, but one guy in your rear gets heart attack or appendicitis, reanimates and wreak havoc, killing others and raising them as well, so you have to pull out troops to kill them. If you have a lot of people, threse incidents can spring all the time, making dents in your organisation untill it collapses entirely. Small groups at least can monitor their own constantly.
@@Ratstranger What is the likelihood of someone having appendicitis during the apocalypse?
These troopers must have graduated from Stormtrooper shooting academy
The moment the Stormtrooper in the Star Wars movies hit the protagonist either crippling, injuring or killing them.
I bet 1,000,000,000 dollars that All Star Wars fans and nerds would shout out.
"SLANDER!!!!"
As if the Stormtrooper is forever destined to miss and it's invincible levels final.
I disagree, however they would definitely been slowed down a hell of a lot more than they were
Seriously though, all them shots fired and there ain't a giant pile of dead zombies? Ass
Nah, they just have really good aim, and are purposefully hitting the chain link fence
Nah, even stormtroopers would win simply volume by fire alone.
FTWD writers just absolutely went full retard with this scene.
Love how the M60 gunner fires like 100 rounds into the horde and 3 walkers go down
Even funnier is that m60 got replaced with the saw plus there would 2 saws for every squad and 2 240b for every platoon on top of grenadiers.
Listen man only 6 extras were willing to fall face first into the dirt so they had to use them sparingly 💀
Because he's going full auto, of course 3 walkers will go down he needs to go semi and calm down otherwise he won't hit any on the head, just imagine the recoil of the M60 damn..
@@Wikchsawa I mean, he's still going full auto with an m60 into a crowd. Even if he doesnt kill anything, that's still a decent meat grinder of a weapon hitting fuckall at point blank range. body shots or otherwise
@@longshucksgaming a M60 has a ton of recoil if you go full auto, he has no bipod, he's on a tower so it's even worse he won't hit shit. They were already trying to do headshots but they're not trained to.
A M60 is also not much of a meat grinder it won't like amputate a leg instantly, or make the body explode, talk about 25mm, 30mm, 12,7mm those are meat grinders they have the force to literally torn you apart I believe
Damn, World War Z zombies would've had a field day with this base.
this video would be 1min if the Zombies attacking the base are from WWZ
@@MinkyTwats the dude at the start would get eaten easily
They would does so fast
We talking the book or the shitty movie?
@@HunterXStyle123is not shit, fym
I love how not a single zombie dies once they get to the fence, they don't even manage to hit a single one.
They kill one though
They shot quiet a few down what u mean lol
They couldn't afford that many extras or too lazy to make dummies
I like how not only do they not die....you don't even see the bullets hit their bodies. like they were firing blanks
@@lespectator4962 like 5 💀💀
I don’t know why comments are talking how bad their aim is. Intentionally hitting the fence wiring is impressive asf
Bro you didn’t watch the whole scene. These soldiers are high on cocaine, meth, and mushrooms. That’s why they keep missing because they’re seeing double. Some of them even think that the fence wirings and the ground are the zombies.
@@yusuke502me when I spread misinformation
From my understanding based off the soldiers reactions of the horde they are new probably 18-20 year olds. They have no experience so doesn’t really surprise me
@@theboy6888audie Murphy got offended
if it hit the wires it would cut through and the fact they miss zombies with a vantage point above them WITH A MACHINE GUN is stupid
Damn dude, if the military struggles against these zombies then they don't stand a chance against call of duty zombies.
Man it looked like they barely killed any of those zombies
In real life the military wouldn’t even let this happen lmao. However the writers got lazy and gave these guys stormtrooper aim and no realism to defense protocols the military would take to prevent this from happening.
@@zenstratis5030 Fictional Military Protocols and Fictional Military Soldiers: ARE WE A JOKE TO YO-
Me and the writers that made them like that for the sake of the plot: *Y E S*
Right, COD exo zombies would absolutely OBLITERATE this military
It happened that way because that's how the producers of the show wanted it to happen
I'm more impressed with the fact that this dude managed to get every single zombie literally thousands of zombies in a city to follow him and not chase him down and kill him I am very impressed with that
thats literally 300 zombies which is nothing compared to a well-armed military base, not to mention the elevation those soldiers could've hit all headshots and eventually build a barricade with all the zombie bodies piling up after being shot, nonetheless this scene is dogshit
@@eyes718 2000 zombies actually from the stadium.
@@mikhailyvangabriel3721 that wasnt no 2000 zombies lmao
@@mikhailyvangabriel3721 search up what 2000 people looks like
@@eyes718 Did you even watch the show?
Even the metal fences when I was at school were stronger than those ones lmao
These aren't even metal fences
Well hey, they withstood gunfire very specifically targeted at the wire. Really, I think it did pretty well at protecting the zombies from the humans.
That fucking Chad that just casually strolled around in front of a large horde and didn't panic at all
Because he knew that the Walkers wouldn't come for him after they've spotted the two soldiers up above. 🙂
imagine if they still chased him @@thegamingandy4603
That's Daniel, a stone cold warrior type. He doesn'tn panic. He brought them there.
You call CHAD a guy who freed thousands of infected people who had been successfully trapped, so that they could kill soldiers, surrounding people and the wounded who were in that building, yeah
Realistically anyone could outpace them by fast walking and zombies couldn’t push over a tower
"You should save your ammunition." That's a clever line.
As they all fire on full auto, wasting untold amounts of ammo
Bro showed up jus real calm too, like “bro its now your turn to train.”
It’s so comforting to know that if a zombie apocalypse happened in real life the military would handle the situation, eliminating the threat
Millions of people would for sure die but the worlds militaries would more than likely wipe out large populations of zombies
@@tristenbrown4208 lol literally who would die? The only people i can think of are the physically or mentally challenged.
@@unclelarry8842 densely populated areas would be majorly affected by a zombie outbreak. You’ve got to remember that like half of the human population is really stupid. People would believe it was a hoax until it is too late. The book World War Z does a pretty good job at explaining how the zombie virus spread quickly. People ignored the problem until it was too late. The black market organ trade caused the virus to spread globally and incubate for weeks in its new host.
@@tristenbrown4208 Not even millions, lol. The locals and the police would take care of it themselves. This is a threat that are mindless, slow as a grandma with a walker, and don’t know how to think but go to the general direction at their next meal.
@@imgvillasrc1608 they where more fast and strong during the initial outbreak.
Little did the soldiers know that due to a supply mix up their ammo was actually all blanks
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It’s funny because those 5.56 rounds should have been able to cut through the chain links like butter, but they didn’t, and apparently rotted flesh isn’t a thing on zombies because there was no collaterals in this scene whatsoever. Very poorly made scene from a technical perspective. One last point is that the Army has anti-personnel explosives for a reason.
Not many of them would be decayed all that much since they’re mostly all freshly turned but I agree with what you’re saying. I can’t believe they couldn’t shoot through a chain link fence.
That's what I'm saying
Shut up you don’t know what rounds they’re using
Infantry Marine here. That soldier is also running the M60 general purpose machine gun. That thing would cut a group of people in half. Let alone a bunch of decaying walkers. They def nerfed it for the plot.
If this was realistic the zombies would be dead AF.
"If this was realistic" you meant -_-
@@derricknewb7001 What is bro saying 💀
@@Geenoi he means a show about slow asf zombies managing to take over the world can only be so realistic
@@stupidmemes4u2see59 The soviet army zombies in Resident Evil Retribution could SLIGHTLY have a chance.
yall forget that when someone dies they come back as a walker anyway, also in the walking dead universe kirkman designed it to where no one in the world of the walking dead knows what a zombie is. there is no such thing in thier universe as a zombie.
If they kept Frank Darabont not only would he have made FTWD good, but he also would have made the military getting overrun more believable.
Yep. The military would be overrun thanks to mass desertion or disbanding of units.
But they didn't try to make the lost season where the military looks for pie
Holy shit multiple infected North... Starts shooting. soldier: do you mind I didn't finish my sentence
Other soldier: can't right now I'm jerking off my M60
@@TA9ON-_- lol
Guys, you're forgetting one thing: A competent military = No zombies
It's sad for me to say this but Michael Bay's depiction of the US military in his Transformers movies is more accurate than they are any of in The Walking Dead shows lmao
I mean it's possible to get like the perfect formula too,
implementing things like desertion, not enough ammunition and just in general stronger or faster zombies can work.
It would take decades at worst to overrun a country and would be contained immediately at best.
Yeah Twd army makes no sense
@@SpartanJoe193 Not sure if I can agree with you there. The problem with the TWD strain is that -anyone- that dies becomes one. Any pockets that fall all become walkers, and in a city full of high rise buildings that rapidly becomes thousands or tens of thousands. Utilities break down, logistics fail, and just like in TWD soldiers begin to desert to protect their families because the problem is -everywhere-.
It wouldn't take decades to overrun a country - the zombies appeared in every single village, town and city at the same time.
Also look at the scenario in FTWD. They put all the civilians in that stadium because nobody was bitten. Fine. One person dies, bites someone else, and suddenly you have a horde.
In some of these scenes the soldiers are shooting at them point blank and not a single zombie is dying. If I didn't know this show was supposed to be serious I would swear this was a parody. The writers/director should be embarrassed to have their names attached to this.
Cause it’s borderline impossible to have classic slow zombies creating an apocalypse. You need to dumb down the humans to retardation levels during the early days in the pandemic for it to actually work. Max Brooks tried but any person who has a decent knowledge on how military hardware works is able to point out its sheer stupidity.
The soldiers are fr firing blanks 😭
Lmao fr 😂😂😂
“You make me proud with that accuracy.” Stormtrooper approved
2:38- When you are playing GTA Online's "The Prison Break" on Hard Mode and after everyone lands on the beach to be picked up by the Buzzard someone presses triangle at the wrong part of the vehicle...
Love it
Damn
That M60 and all the other soldier’s with M4’s together should have shredded those walkers, and why is no soldier equipped with frag granades ? The would have taken them with ease if the logic would work 😂
Yeah the logic of the situation is very dumb its like our military is woke or sum 💀
It’s because everyone is scared shitless and witnessing the world collapse in front of their own eyes.
@@PrimoPier Nothing legit 1 M2 and 2 240B emplacements couldn't have solved with enough ammo which they would've had.
@@TA9ON-_- na 5,56 is well known to ping straight off wire like that and not damage it
Im not even surprised they got overrun by zombies with 1km/h speed, if they cant hit one... at least one zombie through the fence with 10 other soldier with a full magazine...
When POGs are in charge of the defense lol.
@@danielpickrell8311 these guys weren't POGs tho, they were infantry
@@heyythatsprettygood8763 lol real infantry units don't operate like that. They are POGs.
@@danielpickrell8311 okay, real infantry don’t- these guys are fictional infantry, and limited to plot, so that’s why they got overrun
@@heyythatsprettygood8763 they got overrun because they don't know basic tactics whoever wrote this scene. OP takes contact. element gets on line. Returns fire with immediate suppression using rapid fire. There should have been mortars set up in the middle to provide indirect fire at the 300 meter mark. You combine with a GPMG and an HMG position. Yea those zombies would not get that far. Also there were females and an infantry unit didn't have females at the time. So it was a company worth of POGs pretending to be infantry.
Let's see...
>Setting up the main fence behind the small building at 1:04, which only gives a blindspot to even the soldiers on top of the tower. What they should have done is set up the fence alongside that building and even position some soldiers on top of it.
>No floodlights illuminating the area outside the fence, making it harder to spot zombies and especially bandits from a distance. Aside from the base itself, their surrounding is completely dark.
>Nobody warned the base of the THOUSANDS OF SLOWLY APPROACHING ZOMBIES until AFTER they're at their doorstep. No scouts to disperse them, no sniper to study their movement, nothing.
>Firing in short bursts instead of full auto. It's a large group of zombies and you're unlikely to miss, what the fuck are you saving ammo for?
>No use of frag grenades, incendiary or even flash grenades to slow down the horde.
>Using a flimsy fence as the only line of defense. No sandbags, spikes or vehicles are used to block the way.
>No barbed wire on the ground, which would have been more useful than on top of the fence.
>No trenches in front or behind the fence. Not very useful for soldiers, but it can slow down zombies as they fall in the trenches and are forced to climb back up.
>No backup fortification in case the first line of defense breaks down, which it did. After the fence all we get is a wide area as empty as a football field.
>No line of plastic explosives to detonate in front of the base for when the zombies are close enough.
>No .50 Cal emplacement. The M2 Browning could have easily torn the entire horde apart.
>Not using the chopper to provide fire from the air and also distract some of zombies away from the base to focus on the chopper.
>No fucking intelligence from the soldiers. The two soldiers on the tower didn't climb down to safety when they had the chance, so now they fall down and die. The guy who was bitten apparently forgot that rotating helicopter blades can be fatal (If he actually tried to kill himself, why couldn't he have just used his gun?).
>No intervention when the soldier gets bit in the neck. Where the fuck are the medics? Sure, they can't cure the infection, but they can at least ease the pain.
>No officers or NCOs barking orders at the soldiers. Everyone is completely silent and no direction is given. As soon as the fence goes down, everything falls in disarray.
Am I missing anything?
Sums it up pretty dang good if you ask me
oui ils ne visent pas ^^
Firing in short bursts is better for hitting headshots. Other than that everything else is more or less correct.
i hate how they show "the military got overrun" in zombie movies .Now if they are different kind of zombies like the mutations from Resident Evil or the fast zombies from World War Z i understand but there is no way in hell the military could get overrun by slow moving corpses
The RE games I think make a good case for how the military would get overun even with the Walker type zombies when you have other monsters and mutations stemmed from the T-Virus like Lickers or Hunters. Fast zombies make sense as well for obvious reasons such as the 28 Days/Weeks Later Rage Infectees or Dawn of the Dead 04's zombies
But yeah when its just walker type zombies, I'd imagine any military force while not easy, would at least make a substantial effort in zombie numbers
with how tight the horde was coming together.. it's pretty impossible to miss anything but the head. zombies were coming in shoulder to shoulder and only offered a head to shoot at from the tower.
I get that you can miss or hit torso from bottom but no excuse by the soldiers on towers
Indeed.
I PROMISE YOU. The military would not shoot like this not react as such 😭😂
Daniel using a horde of walkers so early, he was ruthless. No one takes his family.
i love how chill the guy is at the start even when there is a giant horde of zombies behind him.
This is what drives me nuts about zombie movies. If they were the fast type like world war z I could see militaries having troubles. But please please tell me ho in tf a modern military wouldn’t be able to handle slow moving bunched up target in the open. Wtf kinda base doesn’t have at least one or multiple truck mounted 50. Cals. One 50. Cal machine gun could’ve shredded that entire hoarse with ease. Shit even if you missed the head shot a 50. Cal would blow them into pieces ad the rotting flesh on top of that it look like a zombie purée in front of that fence
Easy. They can’t fight against hundreds of millions of zombies. No matter how many head shots. People in the show knew how to get out of the way. Not just fight head on or stay in a lost safe place. Also, the military isn’t a group of survivors, it’s a pice of society in the process of collapsing too. Why follow orders? Where to get amo and food?
That said I hate how the show just shows no walkers dying. I get that acting out and trampling actors or having them form piles of corpses is not practical. But still.
@@yucol5661 anything left moving gets burnt
Indeed.
2:33 bro what was this scene💀😭
Most likely he knew he would’ve become infected and instead of slowly turning he decided to cut his head so he dosent turn and kill the rest of his pals
the guy who lead the horde woke up one day and said "fuck this one military base in particular"
Well. you got me. don't get why military was described incompetent in Apocalypse.
in the korean version of ALL OF US ARE DEAD, 5 well trained soldiers took down the entire zombie school with stealth and perfect accurate headshots. it was somehow realistic to me and they move like what you expect from trained soldiers. these FTWD US Soldier version is so incompetent i wonder how did these soldiers become soldiers in the first place. atleast in GEORGE ROMERO land of the dead, it was explained that the soldiers we see are just untrained civilians who panics and the real well trained soldiers are extremely hard to find or just move elsewhere.
they didn't kill all of the zombies in all of us are dead, they killed about half or a quarter maybe, and they weren't really stealthy, but i get your point
Koreans do zombies better
twd has bad plot armour in reality they would get like 300+ kills and not 10 kills
While the World War Z book makes a pretty decent case as for why the army would struggle containing the initial outbreak (y'know, stuff like the battle of Yonkers, the fact that regular explosives are surprinsingly ineffective against hordes, or that the military is trained to aim for center mass, and it's hard to switch up to headshots-only while also taking into account the fear and adrenaline the soldiers would be experiencing), it really does seem like the soldiers in this scene were armed with blanks, because they keep shooting but i don't see them actually hit any walkers.
The only evidence to the contrary are the bullets hitting the fence (without actually cutting through the fence wires somehow, so i guess the fence is made out of Kevlar or something?)
Even at Yonkers they had far more Success. Yonkers was a perfect Example of how Incompetence and bad Leadership screwed up. The unnecessary Gear and Equipment, the overly large Media Coverage, no Ammunition but Electronic Warfare Equipment...
What in the Star Wars stormtrooper is going on with the accuracy of those soldiers!
Army National Guard in FTWD (and most movies and TV series): incompetent as fuck (durr)
Army National Guard IRL: competent as fuck.
Even if they did eventually get overrun in a situation like this (with the chain of command, logistics, and supply lines being absolutely fucked) they'd put up a hell of a fight. They'd drop those zeds by the hundreds. Really, it's only when they run out of ammo that they'd lose the upper hand. and like others have said, they would have been able to see the horde coming with proper advance. I know people hate on the National Guard, but trust me these guys know their shit irl. Give them some credit, folks.
Zeds? I assume you are a Killing Floor player. Let's ratio some fleshpounds
The best Soldiers in this scene were the two up on that lift. They killed more walkers than the other military personnels below ground.
Funny thing they know how to kill then still got overrun
they lit up that fence real good lmao
Oh it's you
I love the US Military, protecting our country from zombies
And killin innocent people raping Child and woman
In this universe we're in, I salute all of the military in the world. 🪖❤🎖
@@thegamingandy4603 yeah? well, i like all types of military, any military
Ja też kocham waszą amerykańską armię
@@Antykomunista2020 can you speak english please? I dont understand that
What I could never understand is how in the hell are the military in TWD universe capable of being this useless?
Oh hell, even some of the common folks? I understand panic and such, but in places like America and such, you would’ve assumed there’s still plenty of people with guns that is going around and don’t mind killing them.
Yeah but I imagine in the beginning people were probably fighting and killing each other as much as the walkers remember everyone's already infected so if they die they become a walker so say someone just happens to die from a heart attack and comes back people are going to assume that everyone is threat to them and lying about being infected
So no grenades, no mortars, no air support, no explosives of any kind. And they apparently stop aiming once the zombies hit the fence. Got it.
Oh please, we’d be having an absolute field day with this.
Fear the Walking Dead was supposed to show the fall of civilization from the very beginning. Instead we got a 3 week time skip and a group condemning hundreds of people to die because they wanted to rescue a druggie.
Right I was so disappointed when I realized this show was gonna be TWD-lite. Didn't even finish the first season.
I find it hard to believe that the military would be that bad of shots and get overrun that easily.
It's what happens when you have POGs taking the spot light and not having an infantry platoon guarding that area.
It’s because of the Fence
The bulletproof chain link fence
Ah yes run at them with shields that’ll help with… something
I love how the old guy is just walking casually
The walkers definitely would’ve taken over the military base but not as fast as it shows they could’ve took out a huge chunk
All actuality even with a standard outpost with of equipment they could easily handle it there was only about 300 walkers. 3000 would be worse but still a decent chance. Zombies are still so slow they easily could have propped more barriers up before Fences were down
@@thesovietvorona1007they don’t even need soldier in the battle field just lunch a fking horde of middle and holopoint drone back up with support helicopters
@@thesovietvorona1007they are trained to hit the main body tho
2:39 That poor soldier. At least he took the easy way out by killing himself before he became a zombie. I would have commit suicide as well if I got bitten by a zombie.
Bro they have big ass trucks just run ones the zombies
2000 bullets shot, 20 headshots
Zombies: “go into perfect bunched up narrow area where they can’t spread out”
Soldiers: Me no how shoot anymore
2:38
Why the fuck did he think that was a better idea than just shooting himself?
2:50
Oops we anchoered the tower with twist-ties.
Dude, are you kidding me?
They had them at less than 3 meters and didnt even kill one of them
Absolutely love how Call of Duty and the Walking Dead are set in the same universe. My bullets don't go through the holes in fences either, when I play Warzone!
Wow you can actually see the bullets bouncing off of the zombies’ plot armor
Whats funny is theyre spraying all those rounds into the crowd of zombies as they come around the corner and not as many drop as they should be the army must be getting stormtrooper training
They are actors. Do you want them to just drop down and get trampled accurately? It’s a crowd with more zombies coming behind them regardless
@@yucol5661 no fuckin shit they're actors buddy😂 and having more behind them doesn't mean they shouldn't be dying was just pointing out a missing factor dick face😂
@@yucol5661 Oh I didn't know they were actors what made you guess they are? And it being just a show doesn't take away the fact they dropped 0 Z's after unloading all that I know it's a fuckin TV show but they coulda trued harder
Walkers are smarter than military smh😭
how tf does a military base lose THAT BAD to the hordes of walkers with armored cars, grenades, possibly tanks or atgm launchers, machine guns and assault rifles??? plus i feel like they should've called for CAS if they even had any. an a-10 warthog and a couple of black hawks could've done it
me sitting here in confusion as non of then have 1 explosive
Ik its so stupid
If real soldiers in real life has aim like in these movies or shows then the world deserves to end by the hands of million of slow walking corpses
give you a hint it is estimated it takes 30k rounds being fired for every enemy dead
@@toomanyaccounts Yes, because human beings know how to adapt and since we’ve been shooting at each other with projectiles for thousands of years, we’ve been doing pretty well in coming up with ideas in how NOT to get shot.
Walkers? Things don’t even know how to think for themselves but shuffle at the general direction for their next meal without any survival instincts.
That's because enemy is moving, maneuvering, limiting their head and body parts at distance. You expend ammo accurately to keep them pinned for a flanking element to finish the rest. These are slow walking zombies. All they had to do was bound and overwatch backwards while walking lol
And this is when Daniel became my favorite character
With that amount of ordinance, those soldiers could have wiped out a horde ten times of that size by going for the head.
What I find stupid about this scene, is why did they only have that one guard tower? They could have had multiple elevated positions around the base.
I question why the military had built a very weak barbed wire fence and not a strong fence such as the commonwealth's gate, the military should know that fences like the one they used here are very weak, I mean sure the walkers shouldn't have been able to overcome that one but I'm assuming from sheer force of them pushing each other against the fence that they were able to break it. And I know someones gonna say they didn't have enough people, if they can't build a decent concrete wall around the base, how the hell did they even build the base?
These were the first days and weeks of the outbreak. They didn’t fully understand the threat.
@@dude_1983Even then I doubt there ain't a few bases that are reinforced better.
These soldiers are like me and my friends in Project Zomboid when we get guns :D
Full fire, zero accuracy
Those bullets would have destroyed that fence making them come through quicker while killing them at the same time
These deaths in the early stages of the show were the most selfless deaths in any zombie universe… but I also knew that for everyone selfless death came one with selflessness or vengeance either way the universe never overcame.
Gotta remember there was also lots of military that sheltered out from the walkers and ditched operation cobalt one they found out it failed twd is in a universe that the idea of zombies never existed if it was like today the military would smoke em cuz they would know to aim for the head
They knew absolutely everything about walkers. You tell me that the police forces of that city knew exactly where to shoot and that they surely knew one hundred percent what was happening and they did not pass any type of information to the government or the national guard? I would believe you if they were an isolated squad or section, but wouldn't a damn base of operations where they are analyzing and carrying out experiments on people under the express orders of some idiot general or some son of a bitch politician know that? Doesn't that seem strange to you?
Not knowing zombies is onyl true in the TV timeline. Comics timeline has the term used.
They knew what were those walkers are
@@mohammadsabir7600 IN the TV timeline?
@@mohammadsabir7600 IN the TV timeline?
Those bullets were really bouncing off that chain link fence
even with no zombie fiction in this universe, i would like to believe that after a few rounds to the chest being just shrugged off, they would of tried to aim for the heads, like almost animal on earth, no head, its dead. also the guy knew how fucked everything was going to get, so he took the quick and easy way through the blades.
He realized that the director only had like 3 zombies that didn’t have plot armor and would die so he took the easy way out
Even if there isn't knowledge about zombies in this universe, heck, you can see one of the soldiers in the watch tower lands some hits on the head of some of the undead, effectively killing them.
How much intelligence is required to understand that "if bullets to the center of the mass don´t kill them them try to aim to the head". It would be logical to assume as a last chance that the head should be the only organ which the undead cannot dispense with. Destroy the head and there is no possible way for the body to still be working. The brain connects all the neural and motor functions of the body, without it there is no possibility of continuing with their attacks.
Also......are we supposed to believe that trained troopers from the United States are going to fail so many shoots again slow monsters and lose their accuracy by shooting to the fence instead of the head?. The zombies heads are big enough when they accumulate in the fence and also the fence holes are big enough for a bullet to trespass them.
PD: They also should have created a more robust barricade, made of concrete, for example.
I know this is a TV show and everything but even if it is fiction this is hardly believable. In fact is hard to believe that slow zombies even in masses in open areas could terminate humanity. With fast ones I could see it but with the classical slow ones..............
1. military is trained to aim for center mass, they wouldnt discard that training hammered into them at a whim. 2. the closer a threat is, the higher the stress level, the higher the stress the less reliable the aim. now take this cause of multiple hostiles advancing on your position, the shots you see landing dont make them fall. you see the hoard behind them, you hear the hoard behind that.
@@agelessrebellion8271 okay so I was just in the Army, infantry to be specific, and I'm telling you right now that if myself or other people I know from my old unit filled up someone's body with shots and they don't go down you best believe I'm going for their head
Also yea sure that would be intimidating for the horde to be that close but considering the soldiers were about 10 feet away from the fence at most it'd be like shooting fish in a barrel, the fence only gave way due to them not being able to kill enough in time and having shit aim, not to mention how the zombies bodies would just start piling up in front of the fence and they'd have to start walking over top the piles
Not that they should even get that close to begin with considering the soldier with the M60 in the construction lift (Which is incorrect because the US Army hasn't used that weapons platform since the 80s, it's the M240 now) would be able to easily take down most of the horde in front until he has to reload, which even then it won't be a problem because of the aforementioned easiness with shooting the ones that manage to get up close to the fence
the reason the military trains to shoot at center mass is not because they're more effective than headshots, but because most engagements are going to be medium to long range, when we went to the range our targets were at least 25m out to 300m, hitting someone's head from even just 25m is hard because of how small it is especially if they're moving, even with Acogs which are the zoomed in versions of sights used on M4s currently, which also most soldiers in my unit only had CCOs (Close combat optics) with a red dot
The biggest problem that could potentially happen is the soldiers simply run out of ammunition due to the sheer amount of undead they're facing, but also by the time that would happen reinforcements would almost certainly arrive to back them up, also with all conversations people have on this topic they assume only ground personnel and vehicles would engage the walkers, and not something such as an AC130 or Apache, which would absolutely tear through a horde with missiles and howitzer cannons, also unlike the ground units the undead have no hope of ever reaching them
@@agelessrebellion8271 You expect me to believe the British that went against the Zulus can take on a horde with just single shot breech loaders can easily win but the US military with assault rifles, machine guns, AFVs, and helicopters would lose against mindless walking corpses that can walk as fast as a grandma with a walker and unable to think for themselves? No, it’s BS.
@@TheAnnoyedHumanist 1. never said that center mass shots were more effective. 2. its common knowledge as to why police, soldiers are trained to aim for center mass. heres the problem with using any sort of air support, tanks, ect. those rockets can tear up the body for sure. might even vaporize a few dozen. but unless the brain is completely severed (at least going by the walk dead survival guide as reference) then that zombie will still be a threat because it can still bite. so yeah, you can blow bits off, cut them in half or completely shred the body. but how many thousand rounds would you pour into a hoard of undead to immobilize them? not every round will be a headshot. so you can sit in that airplane.....waste a few thousand rounds and maybe cut a hoard of 10k down to 8k or at best 6k. but at the end of the day you wasted a lot of ammo during a time where there might not be a way to resupply. on top of that you are assuming the world would carry on as is. you get support when requested, plenty of resupply, plenty of ammo and every soldier mans their post instead of saying "fuck you, im protecting my wife and kids first, country second". in all likelihood none of that would happen. global panic, unrest, military assists pulled from defense to try and control the population while crime would spiral out of control...at some point you would get armed conflict between the criminals and those sent to maintain order. then you got those pulled away to insure the safety of the officials, bases ect. there would be a break down of society-if it got bad enough, no one would be manning the depos to get you more ammo-because guess what? its john public that manufactures and ships the shit. so if no one is working the factories, no one is working the shipping then nothing is getting out of port or warehouse. so you aint got a way to restock fuel reserves, or ammo reserves. you might not have reliable reinforcement either due to location or availability. you are right about one thing, the dead cant reach airsupport....but at some point that air support has to come back down. now lets put a number to all this....since you say you are in the military and got all this education- how long can the US military hold out at..lets be nice and say be 80% combat effective for all branches, nationwide. (taking out deserters and those lost from firefights with armed criminals) now, lets say everything else is equal...how long can the military hold out against 50 million undead countrymen? 100 million? the current total US military is less then 5 million strong. so how well do you think you guys would hold up against those odds? how quickly would you burn through ammo and fuel?
@@imgvillasrc1608 problem with assault rifles is dumbasses going full auto...which does nothing but make noise and waste ammo when the only kill shot, is a clean headshot. and as i may have mentioned before, you got a crowd of undead and your sitting behind an MG. yeah you go right on ahead and hold down that trigger. no trigger discipline means you waste more ammo then the dumbass with a assault rifle. but what people dont realize is even if you dont do that, people are different heights...so training that MG at one undead head level and sweeping over a crowd might kill a fourth of them if you are lucky...meanwhile you are overshooting shorter targets and undershooting taller ones. plus MGs are for suppression...thats their function. not quite the same as an assault rifle. Zulus are living people which means any vital organ hit can mean a kill....the undead dont give a shit unless the brain is turned to mush or the brainstem is blown out the back of the head. all other hits will only serve to cripple a zombie IF they even do that much. and as i said in my other comment. anything in the air has to come down sooner or later. and with no one running the factories, good luck getting any resupply for fuel.
Who was that old man in the beginning ?
Contrary to popular belief, most hand grenades "Neutralize" targets by fragments. They don't go up as a big fireball the destroy and burn everything within 10 meters. So, if the fragments fail to hit the walkers' head, it is as good as using a rifle to shoot their legs off.
Nevertheless, the ones that actually create a big fire ball or a big blast actually exist, and they're very common as well.
Has guns, gets into close combat. Smart.
Really the M-60 didn't make any damage? Bro that m60 is enough to wiped those slow moving walkers
Una secuela desde la perspectiva militar, no caería mal en el universo de The Walking dead
Ver como el personal militar y de emergencia estaban sobrecargados!
I guess reinforcing the fence by driving vehicles infront of it was no option. Or having two fences for some extra safety
that guy has a bloody LMG. That thing would kill zombies even without a headshot, due to the sheer destructive power of those rounds just tearing them apart. Wouldn't even have to aim lmao
Can't kill zombies without a headshot but can definitely immobilize them. Also he should have a better stance. You don't fire from the hip.
@@danielpickrell8311 i mean how the fuck are they gonna miss all of those zombies
Why do they only have one fence?? You guys don’t want to try to make a couple barricades? I get resources might be slim but damn you’re the freakin military
The power of a horde on display and this is one of my most favorite scenes as well as Daniel just strolling by all smiles before walking away peacefully 😂😂
this scene doesn't show the power of a zombie horde, it shows the incompetence of this world's military
They could make the frontline zombies just dies right next to fence then get the behind ones just push them until the fence falls then it could be better - but still stupid anyway, no armored vehicles, no recons, no explosives, and no brain moment
Also due to even more budget cuts they couldn’t afford juggernauts or attack helicopters😂😂
The twitter mob is coming!
did the showrunners forget that in s1 the walkers could run? at least that wouldve made this scene believable
Bro the walkers could also throw rocks at them aswell, make it more funny
@@J_V0706 they can also climb
That old man is the smartest man alive in twd.
What was up with the sparks on the fence? Were the soldiers shots...bouncing off the fence? Was that some kind of 90's video game fence that acts like a wall?
I think I might have missed it but why did the guy bring all the zombies to the base?
because in the show the millitary was going too pull out but before they do that their going too kill the remaining civillians in the area and he wanted too take one of the refugees inside the base too as they were family sum shit like dat
To get his wife Griselda out but only to find out she's already dead...
I still don't get how military fails at aim and shoot, wasting bullets at the fence instead of walkers 🤨
Yet a common survivor without military training has more survival skills.
Zombies have plot armor when it comes to the Outbreak ig 🤷♂️
@@TA9ON-_- plot armor or advantage in numbers? Most likely to be the second one.
Plot armor is something that a main character always has.
@@redschnee5850 Any character in fiction can get plot armor. Walkers get it for when they do sneak attacks all the time.
@@redschnee5850 advantage in numbers doesn't mean they dont die to a hail of m60 bullets
Looks like the Marines are gonna have to save the army again
Never watched any of fear, and scenes like this make me feel like I made the right call.
It’s almost like the soldiers forgot to shoot for the head lol. You hate to see it.
Asshole Soldier: Don't make me shoot you.
Flashlight Guy: You should save your ammo.
[Horde of undead emerge from nowhere]
As a vet I can see this happening. Especially with the modern military.
"as a vet" yeah guess you missed out on what low moral and high stress does to a soldiers aim.
@@agelessrebellion8271 are you saying I ain't a veteran?
You're a sad sort 🤭
@@JennyGormanRitter nice deflecting. that answer proves you are not. sorry just passing bootcamp and getting your "good boy" award does not make a vet.
@@agelessrebellion8271 lmao I guess the 3 years up at Wainwright was some kind of fucked up dream.
What a sad sort 🤭
@@agelessrebellion8271 I also guess the 2 NTC trainings, taking part in kicking off Operation Red Flag (largest show of force to Russia, NK, and China up until that point of 2018)
Not to mention operation Avalanche and Avalanche 2.0 were all dreams...
Damn. Because of you I'm just now realizing when I made the local news up there it wasn't even real!
Sad, sad sort 🤭
I think the troops in Evacuate Team is more than the troops that actually trying to hold the fence.
Like "Here is our plan! If they come, we retreat"
U cant just tell me the fence is blocking almost the whole magazine
Bro been training on the military for years but still can't kill a standing zombie
They know what there are dealing with
Walkers: Fresh Meat!