What Dating Apps and Algorithms Don’t Tell You! | Violet Lim | TEDxNTU

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  • The advent of ‘dating apps’ has revolutionized the dating scene across the globe. With each passing year, a larger percentage of men and women are searching for love online, to bypass the perceived hassles of regular in-person dates. But behind the swipes and matches, several hidden truths guide the game of dating. Founder and CEO of LunchActually, Violet is the first Asian to be certified by the Matchmaking Institute in New York City. Violet has gained tremendous insight into the dating and matchmaking industry and is the pioneer in her field. She has appeared in over 4000 media coverages in top local and international media such as The Straits Times, ABC News 20|20, CNBC Asia, BBC, Bloomberg and Radio Australia. On top of her role as CEO and spokesperson of Viola.AI and Lunch Actually Group, Violet is serving as a Chapter President of Entrepreneurs’ Organization (EO) Singapore. She’s also a Winner at Women Entrepreneur Award 2017 in Singapore; an established award that recognizes her for her achievement in demonstrating outstanding entrepreneurial qualities. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

КОМЕНТАРІ • 228

  • @lightandnightEQUINOX
    @lightandnightEQUINOX 5 років тому +230

    I like her message
    Self development over self pity
    Change what you can

  • @ashome13
    @ashome13 4 роки тому +325

    Love her line at the end “True love happens offline”. So true!

    • @boomerangsruckflug8513
      @boomerangsruckflug8513 3 роки тому +7

      Before it can happen you have to date...

    • @juent1
      @juent1 3 роки тому +2

      So fking true

    • @bobbyscalchi4013
      @bobbyscalchi4013 3 роки тому +5

      @@SR-gs8zo Women think rationally? Nahhhh! Lol

    • @serenityssolace
      @serenityssolace 2 роки тому

      But internet helps connect to other people. Many have found true love through the internet. The problem is with the dating apps specifically made to commodify romance and human relationships

    • @kourtneyw8442
      @kourtneyw8442 2 роки тому +2

      I found my husband online. He’s my best friend and I’ve never had a love like this ever.

  • @theotherway1639
    @theotherway1639 3 роки тому +47

    "The Dating App Confessions" is a short book that explains the craziness of modern dating.

  • @ankitanandy6076
    @ankitanandy6076 2 роки тому +15

    One thing I have realised is people often date for others, like they don't want to know or feel good about their choice, rather they want the onlookers to validate their choice, I am sure this happens in online dating too.

  • @loukaiser5098
    @loukaiser5098 2 роки тому +37

    A beautiful way to encourage people to date old school ways in the strength of the human spirit, with dignity and respect. Honestly, truthfulness and courage. God bless is Right. 🙂

  • @Umph84
    @Umph84 2 роки тому +15

    I’m so glad that I’ve never had to resort to online dating. The best way to meet a potential romantic partner is and will always be in person, preferably in a neutral setting which involves a common interest of some kind.

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 3 роки тому +18

    Loads and loads of people have realised this and have created significant internet presence by conveying this message in various articulate ways.

  • @alexforce9
    @alexforce9 3 роки тому +48

    She is adorable. But went for the "tall handsome guy" too. In fact - she started the convo with him. And kept talking even tho he didnt remember her lol.

    • @aislo8966
      @aislo8966 3 роки тому +9

      Glad I'm not the only one who caught that

    • @usermc1234
      @usermc1234 2 роки тому +9

      hahaha. I think she was trying to imply that she is not above the society's tendency to take physical beauty more seriously. And he ended up becoming her husband because the interaction had been a face to face interaction in a physical setting. If she had found his profile online/ on app, he may have just ghosted or totally ignored her, even if she had swiped left on his profile. Plenty of line dropping in the examples given here.

  • @elladapetrosyan9610
    @elladapetrosyan9610 Рік тому +7

    Her optimism is contiguous! Loved the speech! However, there are situations, countries, age groups when meeting offline is practically impoßible and you have to revert to online dating.

  • @Franaflyby
    @Franaflyby 3 роки тому +68

    She makes great sense.
    On line dating sucks and it's basically just a meat market.
    Better to meet organically.

  • @blackninja546
    @blackninja546 3 роки тому +26

    True. Thhough I've met women in the past online, real chemistry happens in a tangible setting

    • @Colonies_Dev
      @Colonies_Dev Рік тому +1

      i met two relationships on facebook

  • @yooniscruz
    @yooniscruz 2 роки тому +14

    "Finding the right one is not just about meeting the right one, but also being the right one and choosing the right one"
    Love this one!
    I made the right decision to work on myself first and on my skills and I know I will just attract the right guy for me💙 Currently 20 years old and never had a boyfriend yet.
    PS: I'll update you guys if I found the right one👀😂

  • @alchemy4724
    @alchemy4724 4 роки тому +3

    Great advice. Thank you 💖 Love your story

  • @eviljack
    @eviljack 4 роки тому +19

    Great message. I almost dismissed her at the start. But she’s cool and gets it.

  • @muhammadtanvir5298
    @muhammadtanvir5298 3 роки тому +4

    Brilliant speech with excellent delivery. Nice and well said advice.

  • @MrDriedanddone
    @MrDriedanddone 2 роки тому +76

    Great talk. One of the best Ted talks I've watched. I learnt a very long time ago that looks aren't the most important thing when deciding on who I wanted to date. Although I believe physical attraction is important to a certain extent, it's by far not the most important aspect of a person. I'm lucky that I got married before the age of Tinder because I don't think I could handle the dating scene in today's world as it's just so shallow and superficial. I have friends who would make great partners but still remain single because they are only average or above average in appearance and unfortunately for them being average or even above average in appearance just doesn't cut it on dating apps like Tinder. I can see that this is having a detrimental affect on their mental health and I even lost one friend to suicide after he became so lonely and convinced that he was of no worth to anyone. If I had my way, I'd make online dating apps like Tinder illegal.

    • @rod7177
      @rod7177 2 роки тому +6

      "make dating apps like Tinder illegal." I agree, WITHOUT HESITATION.

    • @CC12398
      @CC12398 2 роки тому +5

      @@rod7177 we should spread this on all kinds of sites it's a great tagline! From what I see YT and hear from people it's really sad.
      Seems like you have to be strong and maybe put up a front of narcissism to even go on there. I don't like to tell things about myself until I know I'm going to continue to date someone!
      I don't use apps I never have because I would be very uncomfortable and I am very outgoing! Spread the word 😀

    • @rainbow9987
      @rainbow9987 2 роки тому +3

      I think it’s the unrealistic beauty standards. I think dating always been hard and attractive is subjective.

    • @trainattendant5810
      @trainattendant5810 2 роки тому +2

      Very sad & true. My condolences to you for loosing a friend.

    • @ImranKhan-tj3dr
      @ImranKhan-tj3dr 2 роки тому

      I like u I m alone 👧👧😍😍❤🌷🌷

  • @speedypete4987
    @speedypete4987 3 роки тому +4

    Very nice presentation and an optimistic message.

  • @anitarogers2877
    @anitarogers2877 Рік тому +1

    Oh I loved that - she is so genuine, lovely and right! A great talk. Thank you :)

  • @frogsofindia
    @frogsofindia 2 роки тому +44

    I found my now husband on Tinder about 7 years ago. I was very discerning and read every word of every bio before making a decision on each person. I appreciated the opportunities that online dating offered me, as it allowed me to meet people that I would have never bumped into in person. I don't know how much the online dating scene has changed since then, but I'm glad I'm done with the dating.

    • @skyejacques
      @skyejacques 2 роки тому +3

      The intentions of people are more difficult to discern. Especially if one is looking for someone of a specific culture or religion. A lot of abuse occurs to vulnerable people as well

  • @ms.t9411
    @ms.t9411 3 роки тому +1

    Violet, thank you!!! You're a healer!!! And you are absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!

  • @neetu7151
    @neetu7151 2 роки тому +2

    This was beautifully done

  • @Nitrogearhead
    @Nitrogearhead 4 роки тому +23

    What a fantastic woman.

  • @sleepsmartsmashstress740
    @sleepsmartsmashstress740 4 роки тому +16

    True love happens offline

  • @RaviS-gj7zp
    @RaviS-gj7zp 2 дні тому

    The most transparent talk from a genuine life experience, overcoming stereotypes and with priceless self-esteem and confidence means to be shared with others! Kudos ... Loved her Singapore/Malay accent !

  • @aylinsh2622
    @aylinsh2622 3 роки тому +41

    So weird that most of the guys say online dating is unsuccessful for them and girls are only after money/look. But when u start a genuine convo with them, they vanish. Done with dating apps forever !!!!

    • @David-fw4ly
      @David-fw4ly 2 роки тому +4

      Unsuccessful compared to what? Going to a bar and trying to pick up a girl?
      Online dating is the most efficient way to go about it. Life is hard in general, so is dating but it’s worth it.

    • @TheMrgoodmanners
      @TheMrgoodmanners 2 роки тому +3

      That's probably because you are looking for the same men nearly 90% of your fellow women on these dating apps are looking for.

    • @skyejacques
      @skyejacques 2 роки тому

      It is possible that a particular type of person is online looking. We can't find in real life, then that's an issue sometimes. I recently saw my first ex on the same marriage app as I was on, ten years after he's been married. He is divorced apparently. I met him on a website too. I deleted the app quickly.
      A certain type of person is on the apps.
      Hopefully we will have better luck now in real life.
      Miracles happen daily!

  • @99pups
    @99pups 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent speech and speaker

  • @danaruso5488
    @danaruso5488 2 роки тому +1

    I love your love story and your message! ❤️🥰

  • @elladapetrosyan9610
    @elladapetrosyan9610 Рік тому

    Thank you! I needed this!

  • @angellas.1314
    @angellas.1314 2 роки тому +1

    Love this! And she is very right!

  • @watitduful
    @watitduful 2 місяці тому +1

    Very good speech and points. One thing I will say, however, is that while it’s good to emphasize self improvement, that’s not the end all be all. I say this because that talking point is typically emphasized from the standpoint of believing that one’s own efforts will have control over a desired outcome. This is not so in reality.
    For example, a woman can like me and do everything in her power to t try to appeal to me. But if I share no mutual interest, there’s nothing she can do to change that. Her “self improvement” would be futile.
    What’s not often talked about in the scope of dating and mating is that there’s only so much control we can act have. That’s because we do not have control over the next person. People have free will and have their own perceptions of reality.
    The reason those points are often shushed and omitted is that there’s money to be made off of this. She made that point early on in that this online dating stuff (I’d even say offline too) is essentially a business and the goal is to make the dollar. That said, it’s no surprise that there’s an overemphasis on “self improvement.”
    Self improvement is being used as a means to get people to feel that they aren’t enough and that they need to improve thus paying these people money for services to improve. The sellers are creating the idea that there’s an issue that needs solving and of course they have the answers lol.
    Considering that, I think the best thing to do is be the best version of oneself but also to show oneself mercy as well. Just because a rejection comes doesn’t always mean it’s something you did wrong. Maybe the other person just wasn’t interested, maybe they have a mate already, etc. hi knows.
    All you can do is do the best you can. We have no control over the next person. To highlight these talking points would be to undermine the industry and the cultural and social conditioning. Really think on that. God bless and peace.

  • @wandadrees6384
    @wandadrees6384 3 роки тому +13

    Encouraging and inspiring. Thank you for sharing and being vulnerable

  • @trixiabermosa229
    @trixiabermosa229 2 роки тому

    The best video i watched in yt😄. Im happy i came across this

  • @antonrupasinghe4676
    @antonrupasinghe4676 2 роки тому +1

    One of the best talks on dating

  • @jackie5046
    @jackie5046 2 роки тому +1

    LOVE HER! great talk...

  • @tvm-growthisunlimited9023
    @tvm-growthisunlimited9023 2 роки тому

    Awesome presentation!

  • @MintythecatIsABeast
    @MintythecatIsABeast 4 роки тому +19

    Best advice I've heard for a long time - she's cool.

  • @iamafsanaparmar
    @iamafsanaparmar 3 роки тому +17

    Wow m so touched by her last sentence "True love happens offline "🤍❤💜

    • @ImranKhan-tj3dr
      @ImranKhan-tj3dr 2 роки тому

      Hi 😍😍❤❤🌷🌷🌷🌷

    • @RVNmax
      @RVNmax 2 роки тому

      @@ImranKhan-tj3dr :p

  • @jacquelinemeier-boucher8192
    @jacquelinemeier-boucher8192 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you!!!

  • @carl5959
    @carl5959 Рік тому

    Love this talk 👌🏾

  • @sreevedvp6621
    @sreevedvp6621 Рік тому

    this is an eye opener. Thanks for this

  • @guarichapicante1455
    @guarichapicante1455 2 роки тому

    I loved this!

  • @kanizfatima3447
    @kanizfatima3447 Рік тому +1

    True loves truly does happen when u least expect it and when u are being ur 100 percent self !

  • @seangrady9542
    @seangrady9542 3 роки тому

    Very good!

  • @esmeraldayachting
    @esmeraldayachting 2 роки тому +1

    Love this Lady 👏❤️

  • @MikeFromDownUnder
    @MikeFromDownUnder Рік тому

    Fascinating stuff!

  • @aniketchoudhary3595
    @aniketchoudhary3595 Рік тому

    Excellency at its best god-level speech man I love it so much thank you

  • @Mindsetolympics
    @Mindsetolympics Рік тому +2

    Im in tears…a very short but powerful TED TALK. whatever Kool-aid shes on I want it 😭😭
    I’m gonna assume shes a Christian too 🔥

  • @Hellowhatup98
    @Hellowhatup98 4 роки тому +11

    this is amazing
    lol "if I was a girl & wasn't pretty, I would die"
    ty :)

  • @liopleurodon155
    @liopleurodon155 2 роки тому +5

    3:00 this will be the apps' destruction. The app has no intention of actually losing you as a revenue stream.

    • @watitduful
      @watitduful 2 місяці тому

      Exactly
      It’s a hustle

  • @jameswelldon5782
    @jameswelldon5782 Рік тому +1

    Exactly right. True love happens off line 😊

  • @CC12398
    @CC12398 2 роки тому

    Excellent!

  • @klaraantal6738
    @klaraantal6738 Рік тому

    Great talk.

  • @TopFlightSecurity415
    @TopFlightSecurity415 4 роки тому +6

    I like this woman

  • @rhondabowden3347
    @rhondabowden3347 3 роки тому +2

    Wow don't know how I stumbled here but good mgs.

  • @simonsimon340
    @simonsimon340 3 роки тому

    Bravo!

  • @alitava6844
    @alitava6844 2 роки тому +18

    She just described her husband ''the most handsome guy''. she wanted to give us a nice message but I noticed that she was obssessed about the appearance of a guy and she is happy because she has him now.
    It is human nature to be impressed by beauty of others and there is nothing wrong with dating apps. these apps just should get better in algorithm.

    • @pyroseed13
      @pyroseed13 Рік тому +4

      A better algorithm won't change fact the the apps increase the superficiality of dating. Nor will it change the fact the looks ALWAYS matter, as her story shows, but it matters less if you meet a woman in other environments.

  • @NowhereNowHere-hp5fq
    @NowhereNowHere-hp5fq 3 роки тому

    She is my Hero from now.

  • @usermc1234
    @usermc1234 2 роки тому +14

    Kudos to her message on choosing inner beauty over external beauty, and at the same time, acknowledging but not judging the society's at large tendency to take to physical beauty more seriously. Also didn't miss her point on how if it's the case that if you can't change the look you were born with, then focus on what you can work on - your skills, competencies, and passion, and overcome your insecurities and unhappiness about what others have that you don't, by finding your own domain of happiness by self-fulfillment.
    However I kinda also didn't miss the point that she came on this platform to promote her business - comparing her business's model to that of dating apps don't cut out the fact that they all are in the similar business of match making, and shouldn't try to make the distinction.
    Also, not true about what she said about "not having found the right one yet", or having been with the wrong one, for the matter. And I think many who had been single for an extended period would agree.. It was because the timing was just not right and I wasn't in the best state to want to be attached or get hitched. And I didn't think that I was not the "right one" and neither was I trying to be "the one" I thought the "type" I had liked would have liked me to be. We just had many things we wanted to be and do, and didn't think we were missing out on anything by being single and trying to be good at what we want to do.. 我是相信自己和缘分的. Something, or someone who knows you for the gem that you really are, will never make you wait too long. When you are ready for it, you will get many things that come your way.
    Still a good outreach speech in many ways though - It's always better to trust your instinct and be happy with yourself first, before you are someone's other half - with or without the help of technology

  • @Shroomgamesessions
    @Shroomgamesessions 3 роки тому +21

    Look fellas, you're better off going to a bar than going to a online site

  • @Coughingcatbleh
    @Coughingcatbleh 2 роки тому +4

    This may be inappropriate but I once had a cashier at the grocery store talk to me and make small conversation while I was checking out. She was probably 20 years older than me but her personality was so amazing and funny that it made me want to ask her out and take her on a spicy date. She was happily taken though so I didn't say anything.
    I acknowledge that men are visual creatures, especially me, but I threw away favoring looks that day for some reason and I guess the speaker here captured that reasoning.

  • @carolkology4202
    @carolkology4202 3 роки тому +1

    This is soo true.
    Thank you for helping me understand

  • @cedric7122
    @cedric7122 4 місяці тому

    Thank you. This was my confirmation that I was right to delete all of my dating apps last week.

  • @veronicawuxie744
    @veronicawuxie744 4 роки тому +4

    It was almost like beauty and the beast,but it was sweet.

  • @theharrybennett
    @theharrybennett Рік тому +2

    Online Dating is what you make of it.
    It is your chance to get connected to the right person while you are sleeping.
    Little digital helpers are working for you to leverage offline channels.

  • @abraxadabra4224
    @abraxadabra4224 Рік тому +1

    She's right about apps being corporations at the end of the day - they don't really care whether you find the right one.

  • @fira501
    @fira501 3 роки тому +4

    iam trying this dating right now, wish me luck 🤞

    • @anam6013
      @anam6013 2 роки тому

      So did it work

    • @fira501
      @fira501 2 роки тому

      @@anam6013 Not Yet, and still waiting.. iam already met the first candidate but unfortunately he doesnt like me. so.. yeah, iam just waiting for 2nd candidate..

  • @SuperAussm
    @SuperAussm 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with her, work on yourself, be your bestself, go the distance, try try try. I would be curious what her husband's story is just to get the male perspective.

  • @geef5328
    @geef5328 Рік тому

    Wow, just wow!

  • @mellio9077
    @mellio9077 2 роки тому

    How sweet ❤️

  • @ryandeffley7652
    @ryandeffley7652 2 роки тому +8

    This is a great story and I'm happy for her. But her story is an exception and not the rule. The reality is that physical attraction matters.
    Now I do like what she said about working on types of self improvement you can control. Social skills, fitness, confidence, hobbies, etc.. That helps you become the best version of yourself. 💯
    But having a dating service that doesn't allow you to see a photo of the person prior isn't optimal. Ultimately the goal should be to match you up with a person you could be both physically and mentally attracted to.

  • @lecarlosljrobinsonjr4933
    @lecarlosljrobinsonjr4933 Рік тому

    Amen to this video

  • @nzingahoney
    @nzingahoney 8 місяців тому

    Tony Gaskins has been saying this. Glad she did it ❤

  • @hannabovt2051
    @hannabovt2051 3 роки тому +4

    One of the best Ted talks ever💓😍🔥

  • @kahyeanwong9639
    @kahyeanwong9639 2 роки тому +1

    I'm 36 and still single. he broke up with me after 3 years of long distance relationship. Honestly I used to be positive and approached the guys I liked with good personality. Obviously end up all of them broke up with me.

  • @love-update3690
    @love-update3690 2 роки тому

    Great Video! Keep up the great work!

  • @Christians9955
    @Christians9955 3 роки тому +2

    lol i take tinder (online dating) seriously. Just to have fun

  • @GoodGirl-wi5yo
    @GoodGirl-wi5yo 2 роки тому +1

    what's her app called?

  • @maryjazmineregistrado5335
    @maryjazmineregistrado5335 2 роки тому +2

    Shes one of the best speaker in TED talks! ❤

    • @ImranKhan-tj3dr
      @ImranKhan-tj3dr 2 роки тому

      Or u marriad
      I need true love seriouse relationship 💑💑❤❤😍😍🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷

  • @sonnychoi
    @sonnychoi 3 роки тому +1

    DANG YEAH

  • @123pb
    @123pb 3 роки тому +3

    I find her to be pretty

  • @francoluambo7813
    @francoluambo7813 Рік тому +1

    The word t thing about all these dating sites data analysis is that it makes it look like being single is the worst thing that could happen to anybody.. and that’s far from being the truth.. being in a relationship or married is just one possible way to go through life and its not necessearly the best..

  • @shaleceelynneartdesign387
    @shaleceelynneartdesign387 3 роки тому +7

    I like her attitude! Yes, love "true love happens offline."

    • @ImranKhan-tj3dr
      @ImranKhan-tj3dr 2 роки тому

      I love u ❤❤🌷🌷
      I like u 👧👧😍😍
      Really

  • @glencmac
    @glencmac 3 роки тому +46

    The one thing dating apps won't tell you .... they are all scams.

  • @janechristine9652
    @janechristine9652 2 роки тому +1

    Video calls is the solution

  • @emmanuel1163
    @emmanuel1163 4 роки тому +17

    I was told growing up love is for everyone... But modern culture is now like. 3:24 "If your a "successful" man then...." She can't even just say an average guy 😂 that's not the standard anymore. Also, notice how "Jennifer" isn't expect to hold this attribute.
    So basically for guys just to summarize.
    Love for guys is for the wealthy.
    And in online dating your in a Roman colleseum fighting other men in these online apps for someone sitting back and passively and casually looking at an avalanche of messages of which yours is always a speck.
    In the same way that when we look at the stars we wonder how small we all are in relation to our place in the universe.

  • @songandniko3694
    @songandniko3694 2 роки тому

    superficial criteria determines the genetic lottery, got to be responsible for the kid if having any (not to say the other factors don't matter) but looks are definitely important.

  • @May-qb3vx
    @May-qb3vx 2 роки тому +1

    There are so many times I just wish we didn’t largely do away with debutant balls. I know we see it as outdated but that would be so helpful. Literally the same idea as Hinge (using your existing network to find someone), only it’s in person.

  • @bornacountrygirl93
    @bornacountrygirl93 2 роки тому

    What is the name of her offline dating service I couldn’t understand what she said…..

  • @Jeremy-ql1or
    @Jeremy-ql1or Рік тому

    It would be nice if this kind of stuff actually worked but we know from Love is Blind that two people can have a serious vibe when they talk to each other but then when they finally see each other the entire vibe is thrown out if they aren't attracted to each other.

  • @alexandraschuster9700
    @alexandraschuster9700 2 роки тому +6

    I am single because I met the right one...MYSELF ❤

  • @TheDonTj
    @TheDonTj Рік тому +2

    So confusing why people feel the need to use the smoke screen of body positivity to judge others for being superficial but at the same time do the same thing. Congrats to her finding love in such an amazing way, but sharing the fact that searching for love using height as a standard for compatability is definitely shallow while at the same time shes making it a point to mention that her husband is tall. It's perpetuating the same skewed perception of the "perfect mate."

  • @thespiritconnect
    @thespiritconnect 8 місяців тому

    Dating Apps can dehumanize the process of dating. Although this depends on the app. As some just base it off your picture.

  • @sofiaalonzo3684
    @sofiaalonzo3684 8 місяців тому

    Does anyone know the name of her app?

  • @nerdynautilus5373
    @nerdynautilus5373 3 роки тому

    Im pretty sure most guys are incapable of swiping left. Like can’t even comprehend the concept

  • @verb0ze
    @verb0ze 8 місяців тому +1

    Just avoid the online apps, do the hard work of actively seeking people IRL, and you will generally be happier.

  • @lovecuba2
    @lovecuba2 4 роки тому +6

    What is her dating app called?

  • @elclaudiosanchez
    @elclaudiosanchez 3 роки тому +2

    whats the name of the App she created??

    • @HasnaMardhiah
      @HasnaMardhiah 3 роки тому

      lunch actually

    • @ashtynrose1906
      @ashtynrose1906 2 роки тому

      Did you miss the part where she talked about the algorithms not matching people with their best matches? And her closing statement?

  • @MT-ud7qc
    @MT-ud7qc 4 роки тому +12

    9:20 How are people laughing at this?!

  • @charisa5360
    @charisa5360 2 роки тому

    👌 👏 😍 👍 WOW

  • @clarencegibbonz4770
    @clarencegibbonz4770 Рік тому

    true dat