The monologue about Liliana's death that had you tearing up is the way Javier described what happened in the avalanche in the book about the tragedy. Both him and his wife were on the plane because his cousin Pancho Abal was part of the rugby team, Javier worked for Pancho’s family , they owned a cigarette company and he invited him on the trip because they were hoping to expand to Chile, that's also why they had so many cigarettes on the plane, Liliana came with him because they were planning to celebrate their wedding anniversary. He was the only one who survived, Pancho passed away during the first night after the crash from his injuries and Liliana during the avalanche. Javier passed away in 2015, so even though he wasn't able to be a part of the making of the film like the rest of the survivors, hearing the actor say his words exactly was really moving. I'm glad they found a way for him to tell his story in his own words even though he has passed.
This film is 95% close to the reality that the survivors experienced, they participated very closely, there is also a book about this tragedy. In the film there were many scenes that could not be filmed because they were too strong and tough. For example, when they started eating human meat, many of them vomited non-stop for days, many of them became sick. They also tried to eat cotton or the leather of the seats. The last woman to survive ( Liliana, the 34-year-old girl who was married to one of the survivors), had an important role as a nurse, many said that she was like a mother to them (especially the youngest ones of 18 and 19 years old). She was a great psychological support, and she consoled them when they were sad. Numa learned a lot from her and he was a kind of nurse after her. She never wanted to eat human meat, she only ate a little bit just 1 day before the Avalanche. Unfortunaly she died. *I'm from Chile and we are separated from the rest of the countries, in the east by the Andes Mountains, in the South by Antarctica, in the West by the Pacific Ocean and in the North by the Atacama Desert. So we have always been isolated from the world in the past, when airplanes did not exist ,many people died trying to cross the mountains, and many planes crashed (when they were basic and just beginning to exist)
Yea, i was literally just trying to imagine what uncooled human meat thats been frozen for several weeks would even taste like.. i doubt u can eat the organs, did they just eat the fat, muscle and skin? (did the skin have.... hair?) and how do you choose what to eat first? Ugh. I cant even imagine it. I know im focusing on the wrong thing but I just cant get it out of my head.
@@uggggggghhhhhbut they would need to eat the fat for energy, those people were starved so they needed as many calories at they would get for energy, I saw the pictures of the bones and they were cleaned off 😬they did what they had to do to live
Think I read somewhere that the guy that found them was quite poor and basically gave up all the food he had. For this the rest of the survivors looked after him until his death and continue to be friends with his children
25:56 even the little details in this movie are amazing, vasco screaming for his dad and knowing that in real life his father went to jail for going up the mountain and bring back home his boy's remains to be buried with the rest of his family in Montevideo (all the other victims of the plain are buried in the mountain, it's illegal to take any remains, I cant remember why) vasco your daddy hear you, your daddy went there on got you back 😢
I understand why the survivors choose Numa, he was the last to die, he resist eating human meat and also his words at the end is technically saying that he does not judge them and he gives his consent to eat his body if necessary 😭🤧
Me and my family recently watched this movie last month and we were all blown away by how emotionally heartbreaking yet truly realistic this film was as you felt the urgency and desperation of the characters drive to survive yet feel the loss of those who died and me my parents, and my little brother collectively cheered once the characters were saved at the end just giving us a collective burst of hope and relief. This film is excellent and the fact that its a true story truly blew us away, especially with how much this film respected and honoured the real life tragedy and incident in general
Qué hermoso que la hayan visto en familia!! Es un n mensajes de amor la película! Debemos cuidarnos unos a otros para poder subir, como dicen ellos, nuestras propias cordilleras! Solo no es posible!
For the people who are mad // Para las personas que se enojaron: He literally told us in the beginning that he is gonna laugh and make jokes because that’s is his coping mechanism, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. Be kind. Español: Al inicio literal dijo que se iba a reír porque es su mecanismo de defensa no mamen jajaja y hasta pidió perdón en anticipación. Los ingleses tienen ese tipo de humor negro y nimodo tocó soportar. Llevo años viendo a Seb y me encanta su contenido, tenemos que entender que hay personas que prefieren reír que llorar pero eso no significa que no entiendan la historia. Como latinos nos llega mas el sentimiento obviamente pero si decidieron ver el video aunque el avisó que iba a hacer chistes para no llorar ya es decisión de ustedes verlo o no🫶🏻
netflix once again proved with this movie that they have no idea what audiences like. they didn't do anything to help this movie become a success and yet when it dropped it quickly became their second most watched foreign language film EVER. and then they scrambled last minute to do some oscar promo but it was too little too late. they put too much money and focus into maestro which went home with nothing. it's crazy that after all this time, they still haven't learned. they did the same thing when they dropped stranger things back in 2016 in the middle of the summer with zero promo-- audiences found it all on their own, recommended it to friends and family, and it became a hit on word of mouth alone. only then did netflix get involved in marketing. they need to do some serious restructuring there because those dummies know nothing about what audiences want. ANYWAYS i highly recommend the making of documentary on netflix as well, it's a little over half an hour and really gives some great context to how everything was done. i have so much respect and admiration for ja bayona, he really had a very specific vision for this and he made it happen and it's incredible.
Mate you have just made my Friday thank you so much for reacting to this. I am from south america and this story is part of our culture. Amazing reaction, thank you for sharing it. Thank you as well for watching it in Spanish. A few facts: Nando made quite a recovery because even when his head swelled with the impact, it was facing the cold metal of the plane when he was left outside because everybody was thinking he was dead or about to die. The cold served as a very cold ice pack to heal the swelling in his head and make him better. Daniel Maspons I believe or Diego Storm, cant remember which Daniel was (both died during the avalanche) who was another medicine student thought after the first night it was a good idea to bring Nando to a warmer area inside the plane. The idea Nando had to want to eat the bodies came out of anger that the pilots' negligence got them to be stuck in the mountain helpless. Let's not forget he lost his mum, sister and 2 best friends. Nando's anger it's what pushed him to want to get out of there no matter what. They were peeing black because of severe dehydration. Numa when Marcelo died said they have been waiting for a moment like that, a moment of peace. Marcelo after finding out the government stopped looking for them got very depressed and kind of lost hope. Some of the survivors say that they think when Marcelo was trapped in the snow during the avalanche he let himself died because he could not fulfill his promise that rescue was coming and all of those people were in that plane because he planned the trip. The guilt and despair kill him, the avalanche was just his way to let go of that burden. Fito was the one who thought of making water, glasses to protect their eyes from the reflexion of the sun in the snow and also chose the bodies that would be eaten along with his cousins Daniel and Eduardo. Fito was called the inventor. The cousins how the call themselves were those who carried the biggest burden of all, to know which friend they were eaten and cut that friend to be eaten. Carlitos, the young person who crashed into the suitcases with his car at the airport, was a spoiled child who came from a wealthy family. He was very spoiled, he even had a nanny, after this trip his perspective of life absolutely changed. In the plane, he was in charge of making sure there were not drafts in the plane or reduce the possibility of drafts using the suitcases and plane seats, he was very good at it. He also was the one who made the sleeping bag that Nando and Roberto used to protect them and sleep during their walk to Chile. They had so so so so many cigarettes because in Chile cigarettes were scarce and Javier Methol, the man who lost his wife in the avalanche, worked in a Tabaco company so thought it was a good business to take a lot of cigarettes and sell them in Chile. In those years if you went to Chile with a few dollars or had some out of the market products you were a millionaire. Chile was going through a horrible economical crisis. Numa did not get injured like that in the real events, someone walked on his leg by accident because of the lack of space in the plane and because he was not eating his body did not have much strength to recover from the bruise. He was the last one who died and his death pushed Nando and Roberto to say fuck it lets do this, let's save ourselves because no one else is going to. The others 14 left in the plane also had a plan b in case Nando and Canessa did not make it which was putting together another team to hike the mountains. The actual survivors loved this version more than the 1993 version, because it doesn't idolise the survivors as the heroes, instead recognises and considers those who died and their memory. In the alive version some families did not give permission to use the real rugby player's names. In this versions all the families were happy and satisfied with the way the story was told and gave permission. Reporters kept digging in a very nasty way how they survived, what did they eat, etc. The survivors were very secretive and ashamed about saying they ate human and were scared to be judged, being Catholics, by their families and friends also going to jail. They had a press conference were they answered to reporters questions ONCE instead that addressing the situation 100000 times to every reporter who asked. They asked the reporters and people for respect of their choices considering the very harsh circumstances they had to face. Pancho Delgado (Numa's best friend in the movie was they one who spoke in this conference) He said that Jesus gave his blood and body to save the world so the survivors took their friends bodies and blood for them to be save. Pancho also asked the reporters to please not spoiled with yellow press and judgement an act that was sacred to them and something that was done for pure survival instinct. The actual survivors made a Kameo in the movie Nando, opened the door to the actor who played him at the airport, Roberto Canessa was one of the Drs in the Hospital when they got rescued, Coche Inciarte reading a newspaper in the bar Numa and his friends were, Numa's real life nephew passing by Numa's house when he was entering and Carlitos, who read all the survivors names, were is different scenes. The house shown as Numa's house in the movie was actually his real house back in 1972. The reason why Zerbino would not leave without the suitcase it's because he hoped that tokens from the death people, like personal belongings such as jewelry, rosaries, ID's, letters written before dying were taking back to give to their families. That actually happened the real survivor refused to leave without the suitcase and when back home he personally went to each of the families homes of the passengers that did not survive to give them something that belonged to them, so the families even when not having their bodies they could have something to remember them by. In the movie isn't shown but the rescue was in 2 stages. They had to rescue one lot of people that day and the next lot the day after. Some survivors had to stay another night waiting for the other helicopters to arrive. Those left behind the first day were left with food and a team of rescuers. A survivor said most of the rescuers were scared of them after seeing all the human remaining all over the place and made sure the survivors knew they had a gun. Also the smell and dirt was unbearable. Only one rescuer Sergio Diaz, I believe he is called, stayed in the plane with them that night, ate with them and advised them about what they were going to face after everybody knew they have eaten human beings. There is a man who was part of the search team that were looking for the plane during the 71 days the survivors were stranded on the mountain. His name is Claudio Lucero and he had made quite strong arguments in the media about how he believes the 27 people left alive in the plane after the crash planned and plotted maliciously all the events that happened to them to gain fame. He states they could have left the mountain days before the day they got rescued, but chose to stay longer and go through hunger and lost to become famous and earn money.
Wow thank you for all this information! I love learning about the real story, and I can’t believe the last comment about Claudio. How soulless of him to even suggest something like that.
En realidad no mantuvieron el secreto por estar avergonzados. No lo ocultaron a su familia ni a los médicos. Pero querían decir ellos mismos a las familias de los muertos lo que habían tenido que hacer en vez de dejar que se enterasen por la prensa. Por desgracia, uno de los rescatistas vendió las fotos que había sacado en el lugar del accidente. Posiblemente el mismo Claudio Lucero, que no les buscó durante 71 días, sino durante 10. Los actores comían jamón y pasteles hechos para parecer trozos de carne. Llevaban una dieta muy estricta, perdieron una media de 20 kilos cada uno. Estaban tan motivados que, cuando volvían al hotel, forzaban las puertas del gimnasio para hacer ejercicio y adelgazar aún más. Los 71 días de la montaña se rodaron en orden cronológico, para que se apreciara el deterioro físico y la pérdida de peso. Hay cosas en la historia real que resultan escalofriantes. El jersey rojo que lleva Roberto Canessa en la cola del avión lo sacó de su maleta, que estaba allí. Se lo había hecho su novia, con la que aún está casado. Era un jersey muy grueso, demasiado para un país como Uruguay, y, cuando Roberto le preguntó por qué lo había hecho así, ella contestó que tenía la sensación de que algún día lo iba a necesitar. La víspera del viaje, le mandó una nota en la que le pedía que llevara el jersey, aunque en Chile y Uruguay era finales de la primavera. Laura, la esposa de Roberto, cuenta que el 19 de diciembre por la tarde recuperó el ánimo por primera vez desde el accidente. Luego supo que, en aquel momento, Roberto estaba dejando detrás la nieve, y recogió una piedra para regalársela como recuerdo. La madre de Daniel Naspons soñó poco después del accidente que su hijo estaba bien, que sólo tenía un golpe en un ojo. Y así era. La noche de la avalancha, cuando él murió, su madre tuvo la sensación de que todo había terminado. El arriero que los encontró se llamaba Sergio Catalán. Cabalgó durante diez horas para entregar la nota de Nando en el puesto de Policía más cercano, donde le llamaron borracho y le acusaron de crear falsas esperanzas en las familias. Sólo cuando leyeron la nota comenzaron a creerle. Roberto y Nando estuvieron en contacto con él durante años, y cuando necesitó operarse la cadera, le llevaron a Uruguay para que pudiera hacerlo. El médico del equipo de rugby iba en el avión con su esposa. Murieron ambos. Dejaron cuatro hijos, el mayor de once años, y los sobrevivientes siempre estuvieron atentos a lo que pudieran necesitar.
Lucero is a jerk. One of the survivors said that when he went to rescue them, from far away raised his shirt and showed them he had a gun! Can u imagine? These people were desperate to leave the mountain and this jerk was showing them a gun like saying one false movement and i kill u all … he is one of the worst human beings, ever!
I just wrote a 2000 word research paper for college over this movie and I read Roberto Canessa's autobiography "I had to Survive." I was comparing the movie to the real life recount of the events on the mountain. This movie is an actually very accurate depiction. The reasoning behind this is because the man who wrote the book that this movie is based on is a classmate and friend to many of the survivors. He was able to write an accurate book because he had the help of the survivors, so the creators of the movie were bale to work off something already accurate. The creators also chose to film in the crash location site for a lot of scenes in the movie. This story is heartbreaking and so moving. I'm happy you are able to learn their story like I did.
Another thing is that is the first film to use the names of the deceased as well. In the past the families didn't give permission, but this is also why it is so accurate because it gives a voice to those who died.
The film is a cinematic masterpiece, not only because of the aesthetics, art, photography, make-up or script, but because they managed to tell the story as real and truthful as possible, to the point that the survivors actively participated in it and say that when they see it they relive in their minds everything that happened. It is wonderful the way in which Bayona manages to show the harshness of what happened with an artistic touch and a strong emotional charge and for the first time not only highlighting the figure of the survivors as heroes but also those who died and did not make it out of the mountain, which is why Numa's voice as narrator is so important. Each of the actors met the real person they were playing and most of them managed to create a bond with them, moving from interpretation to reality and giving the importance it deserves to what each survivor felt, because as they have already said, each one remembers the mountain in a unique way. THANKS FOR REACTING! It wasn’t getting a lot of attention from reactors :(
There are numerous cameos by actual survivors in this movie. Nando Parrado is seen holding the door open for the actors portraying him and his family at the airport. The man announcing the names of the survivors is Carlitos Paez who is now portraying his own father. At the end when the survivors are shown walking into the hospital Roberto Canessa is seen as the doctor walking directly behind the actor portraying him. Also Numa’s nephew is seen as the man that Numa says hi to right as he gets home at the beginning of the movie. This shows how involved many of the survivors and also family members of those who did not make it back, were involved in the making of this beautiful and moving film.
I also thought they would have plenty of water bc of the snow & was confused about why they were so dehydrated. Apparently the body converting frozen water into it’s usable liquid form expends more energy leading to further dehydration.
Also, despite how much "water" is up there in snow form, the air is dry because of the low humidity at that altitude. Just sitting still and breathing was sapping their bodies of water. And because of the thin air at that altitude, which means lower oxygen levels, they were constantly having to breathe more heavily. Thus losing more water. Moving around and being active made it far worse.
The film was partially filmed up at the Valley of Tears where the fuselage actually came to rest. JA Bayona went up there and filmed things for the backdrop of Mt. Seler (named by Nando Parrado in honour of his father), plus the surround for the Andes. The sound mixer also recorded things like the wind and how the snow sounds up there to be used in this film. So it is by and large authentic to the experiences these boys went through. As for Numa Turcatti. Numa was the one righteous man we see once in a lifetime. He was a law student who was about to take the bar to become a lawyer. His arguments against eating the dead was based on both his spiritual beliefs, and his studies in law. The four days buried was because in tandem with the avalanche, they were also experiencing gale force winds and a four day storm. That was why the shelter of the fuselage was better until the storm was over. Arturo died of pneumonia. His lungs were full of fluid. Usually antibiotics could help, but up there Roberto and Gustavo had nothing. As for them being clean shavn, not all men grow bushy beards. Some may have tons of head hair, but very little if no facial hair. The actor playing Numa is Enzo Vogrinzic, actually lost about 50 pounds during the filming. He went from 150 to 103lbs. All the actors were on a closely monitored diet to fully depict the trials the actual men went through up there. As one's body begins to diminish, they become somewhat old as they no longer have the suppleness of the muscle they had. The protein in the bodies gave them nothing but lean energy, but not carbohydrates we all need to sustain us. As for Numa dying. He was the voice of the dead, the ones who didn't return. The ones who survived are still close to this day. There are 14 left as Javier Methol (the man who lost his wife) died in 2014, and Jose Luis "Coche" Inciarte (the one who needed help walking) died in 2023. They still gather on rescue day, or as they call it "rebirth day." They have all gone back up to the crash site many times since 1972. One of them, Eduardo Strauch, is part of an adventure team that takes civilians up to the crash site. All that remains up there is wreckage as the remainder of the fuselage was burned and the bodies buried in a communal grave. Roberto Canessa (med student) and Nando Parrado (man who lost his sister and mother) have been called exceptional in what they did. Mountaineers and alpinists from Ed Viesters (summited Everest five times) and others have called what they did as amazing considering they had no equipment and no training. Also not to forget their physical condition. As for the long-term effects of what happened. Many of them do suffer from a form of PTSD, but with the other survivors they have help and support. The one thing I have to say about these boys. If you remember from the beginning of the film, Numa's voice over stated many of these boys had known each other when they were young. Many of their fathers knew each other as many played rugby for Stella Maris College as teens/young men. These men formed lasting bonds that have survived to this day due in large part to their faith, and their love....always love for each other. And at the end of this story as it still is 52 years later, it is all about the love they had for each other and the love they had for the ones who didn't return. This story is about the power of love. Could we all wish to have the same spirit these men had and have today. I've been with this story since reading "Alive" back in 1976. I have followed these men since then. The one thing I have learned from them is not to squander away your life as you might not know what as Roberto Canessa has said, "When your plane will crash." Some info about where they all are today. Roberto Canessa (med student and one of the ones who made the walk) is now a world renown pediatric cardio thoracic surgeon. He operates on fetuses inside their mother's wombs in order for them to be born healthy and life their lives as they should. He has won many awards for it including many in the United States. Nando Parrado (one who lost his sister and mother) is an vintner, and former race car drivier and who is now a motivational speaker. Many of them including Gustavo Zerbino (other med student) and Adolfo "Fito" Strauch have become long term associates for Stella Maris College in the rugby program. The same one they came from. Javier Methol (man who lost his wife) was a tobacco grower and successful business man. Moncho Sabella lives in Argentina and is a successful agriculturalist. A lot of the others have gone into other things including public speaking as has Carlitos Paez (guy whose father was looking for him.) Some trivia: Nando Parrado can be seen in the airport opening the door for his "family" and his portrayer, Agustin Pardella. Roberto Canessa can be seen aiding his film portrayer, Matias Recalt when they get to the hospital after the rescue. Coche Inciarte can be seen directly behind Numa Turcatti actor, Enzo Vogrinzic, in the pub scene with Gaston and Pancho. Ramon Sabella can be seen in the airport as an extra. Carlitos Paez (guy who made the sleeping bag) played his own father, Carlos Paez Vilaro who didn't rest until his son was back safe. Juaquin Turcatti (Numa's actual brother) is seen in the night outside the home Numa grew up in. Those were Numa's actual books he used to study from. Gustavo Zerbino is seen at the beginning as a rugby coach. In summation, this film was made to remember those who died. This is the first time the names of the dead have been used as the relatives of the dead refused to allow their loved ones names to be used in other productions: "Survive" 1976, and "Alive" 1993. This film is a dedication from the living to the dead. It is their voice Numa speaks for.
The cards are Spanish suites, and they're gorgeous! They closely resemble the Italian ones, so that's why some of them resemble Tarot cards (they were used to play a game called Tarocchini before the whole divination thingy)
@@luciagil9008 i know they are spanish style… but everyone knows about Spanish cards. Truco may have originated in Spain but that is not where its most popular
This movie is an example of life. "Value that you have shelter, food, water, health and work. Happiness is in the simple things in life, the rest are colorful mirrors that this consumerist and materialist world sells you." That is the message of the story of the Andes.
The survivors took care of the guy that found him for the rest of his life and take care of his children to this day. But yeah most people wouldn't be grateful that long. But this wasn't a typical group of people.
I didnt know that I watch this in english dub on netflix AND THE ENGLISH VOICE ACTORS ARE INSANELY GOOD and I rewatch this in spanish to respect the flim director in the way it suppose to be watched
Thank you so much for reacting to this one. It's worth doing a little research about the remaining survivors and their interviews, 14 out of the 16 are still alive. One of the 2 deceased survivors made it to see the film before it aired and then died. And there are a few of them in the actual film as cameos. This film surely deserves mass recognition and love, it is a beautiful tribute honouring Numa and all of them. Best film in a very long time in my opinion. A real treasure and a real life lesson. P.S While watching this film it is important to remember that this happened in the 70s to a very religious group of people. It helps to understand the mentality and the dilemmas they faced. Faith is a big theme in this one although personally I agree with Arturo’s perspective.
I recomended this film in one of your videos just after watching it, it is one of the best movies I've seen recently, glad that you have experienced this amazing movie. I'm spanish and I'm proud of what J.A. Bayona and all the amazing Uruguayan actors have done.
Writing letters in a critical situation is common, in war it was used a lot, especially in the Second World War. This letter reaches its destination, not the author.
3:00 those are spanish playing cards!! very popular in south america for many different games. and it is actually one of the decks that inspired tarot yes!
an interesting fact about the radio message saying that the search for the plane was canceled is that in reality it was more like good news for most of them because it meant that they could now start depending on themselves and not in others... that's why is called SOCIETY of snow... they worked together. Nothing like others fictional movies where there's always a point when the survivors want to kill each other... kinda cliché tbh. But this story's got some crazy details that got skipped in the movie because it was a lot of days but I strongly recommend watching the survivor's podcasts or books. Btw I'm from Chile and love your channel... So seeing both you and my country in one video is kinda sick
I never comment on videos and a few videos ago i comented that i wanted you to watch this movie so i'm super happy that you did!!!! (even if you didnt see my comment) I'm from argentina and a filmmaker and this movie broke me, i'm really glad that people all around the world are watching it. Love your videos and love You!!
"Which part of the body are they eating first?" According to the book, they ate the buttock first - from the pilot, because they blamed him for the crash.
The final days before the scene where Numa dies and you see him extremely thin is real! Not CGI or anything like that. Enzo Vogrincic (Numa) and the rest of the cast had to lose between 7-23kg during the filming period. Some more, some less. That, and the make-up work done on them highlighted how thin the survivors were by the time they were rescued. The actors really gave their all to show the world what happened in the Andes. I heard you say that this story should be taught at schools, and I AGREEEEE with you. Here in South America, particularly Uruguay, Argentina and Chile (at least when I was little) we heard of this or read the books or were taught this at school at some point. I don't know if the younger generations nowadays learn about this as well or not, but the 90's kids have known of the heroes of the Andes since young, and they truly are a living inspiration for most. Sometimes I like to say that Nando Parrado is Superman's hero hahahah. I enjoyed your reaction, and I understand that you joked around to cope with this and not cry. Thank you for clarify it at the beginning, tho.
You have to know some things, there was no water. Snow is distilled water and does not quench your thirst or hydrate you because it does not have minerals. They were Uruguayans, they did not know the mountains, since Uruguay is on the Atlantic, bordering Brazil and Argentina. There are no mountains, the highest hill is 500 meters. In Uruguay there is no snow, the maximum that the temperature can lower is one degree below zero, it only generates frost. And it was also spring in Uruguay, they didn't wear coats or boots. Without food, without water, abandoned in the middle of nowhere, without knowing where they were, at 30 degrees below zero and at 4000 meters above sea level.
I also stopped of the detail of the tarot cards, the meaning of the two of swords shown on screen means being torn between two options/ difficult decision to be made when upright, and being stuck /having no choice when reversed... very beautiful but haunting. Id like to think this was a reference to Carlos Paez Vilaró resorting to psychics and tarot readers to look for his son Carlitos Paez
Those arent tarot cards... those are tatu cards. They are playing a very popular game called truco. The two swords can be the most powerful one sometimes. So i think its an ode to uruguayan culture more than a tarot analogy.
@@_bella2345 oh wow!! Thank u sm for this i always wondered if that was intentional or not, i just looked them up they look just like the ones from marsella deck !!
as someone who watched all the oscar noms every year, this one truly was the most harrowing - how they weren’t nominated for cinematography and meastro did is absurd! also u need to watch poor things - by far the funnest nominee this year! spoiler when the narrator died 2/3 into the movie my jaw dropped - just how bleak it all was
La película se grabó de forma cronológica para poder grabar la pérdida real de peso. Las partes con el avión se grabaron en España y también viajaron a la zona del accidente a grabar con algunos actores la expedicion del final y exteriores. Las imágenes representan la localización y paisaje exactos. La historia en sus momentos más importantes es realmente exacta. El rescate realmente sucedió en 2 días porque las condiciones meteorológicas eran muy malas.
Some facts about the movie: Three of the survivors made cameos in the movie: - Fernando "Nando" Parrado: opens the airport door to his character at the beginning of the movie. - Roberto Canessa: Plays a doctor when they are received at the hospital because he is a doctor in the real life. - Carlos Paez Rodríguez: Represents his own father (Carlos Paez Vilaró) when he reads the list of survivors reading the name of his own son (“Carlitos Miguel Paez, my son”). - The house where Numa arrives is the real Numa's house and the walker is a Numa's nephew. - The suitcase that Gustavo Zerbino didn't want to leave in the Andes was full of belongings of the deceased that he took to their respective families. - The actors underwent a diet under strict medical supervision so that their bodies would more realistically reflect the effects of what the survivors went through. - The survivors and the families of those who passed away say that this movie is much more faithful to the real events, unlike the film 'Alive!' which was more of a spectacle than a tribute. In addition to changing the names of the characters, they altered almost the entire story. - All the survivors (except for 2 who died in 2015 and 2023) are still alive. You can search for their accounts on Instagram. - The location of the accident (Valle de las Lágrimas [Valley of Tears]) can still be visited today, starting from Argentina (as it is a substantially shorter journey): it takes several days on horseback and hiking through the mountains. It requires several days of planning and good physical condition. - They were there for 72 days. On the first day of rescue, they took some of them and a group of rescuers stayed who set up a tent a little away because of the smell. The next day they rescued the others. See more info in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571 Hugs from Argentina. 🤗
You have to consider that almost all of them were very religious teenagers, that's why the idea of eating from a human body was so hard for them, and in top of that, those were the bodies of their just deceased friends
@@worldwrestlingdrafting5949 original movie? Sorry if I sound like an idiot here but all the only one I know about is the 2015 movie based on the true events of that mining incident where 33 Chilean miners were trapped by a 2000 foot tall rock collapsing and blocking off the tunnels
@@worldwrestlingdrafting5949 So every movie about the holocaust is a copycast of the last movie made about it? With that logic, Alive is a copycat of Supervivientes de los Andes (Mexican movie from the 70s)
The real survivors from this tragedy do give out speeches here in uruguayan schools and also worldwide, so this is taught in schools at least here in Uruguay. The survivors are a lot older now, and one of them, Coche Inciarte has unfortunately passed from an illness (he got to live a long and ahpy life with his wife and kis though) but from what I've seen in interviews and stuff I think they are still grateful for the lessons learned through this experience, but as much as this was their collective experience, you also have to consider that at the end of the day each one of them lived (or experienced) it differently. And that's something they always talk about in the interviews, at the end of the day they are their own individual human beings and the way in which they remember the story, and live with it to this day is different because they are,
"Where are they crapping?" According to the book "Alive!" - They got constipation because they swallowed all the meat without chewing. Later they started drying the meat under the sun, it got putrid and gave it a cheesy flavour - which they actually enjoyed. Soon after, all of them got diarrhoea.
Imagine Nando's father, in Montevideo, without knowing anything about the "lost" airplane. His daughter, his son (Nando) and his wife were all in the plane. Cannot imagine losing so many relatives... I live 5 minutes away from Carrasco international airport, and I used to see a Fairchild flying around, the uruguayan air force used it for training pilots, for years. That Fairchild was eventually retired a couple of years ago. The guys couldn't make their expedition to get away from there because of the low temp. But as we are in the south hemisphere, December is plain summer, and the temp. became more tolerable. Nando and Roberto were ideal for the task, they walked more than 10 days, to finally reach that valley. Numa, if it wasn't for the infection in his leg, pretty sure he would have made it. He was really close... A couple of days more...
I read the story about this in the 8th grade in school (1979) and wrote a paper on it. I can’t believe it took so long to be made into a film. Glad to see you watching it!
It's an interesting, incredibly sad true story. I know the survivors had to eat the deceased to survive, but since watching the film, I've often wondered how the families of the deceased felt about their loved ones who hadn't survived the initial crash, being eaten by the survivors. It's hard enough to be told your loved didn't survive, but then to discover they were eaten must have been horrendous.
2:58 those cards are called "barajas" and is used to play a card game called "brisca" its simple but pretty fun and imo the better card design compared to a normal deck of cards
@@worldrise9398 yeah i figured, that's cool :) i know them as "cartas de truco" you can play truco, buraco, la casa robada, chancho va, pedro and a lot more i just don't know em haha
(not so) fun fact: they actually were ALMOST considered guilty and went to jail because of the canib*****m (the government spared them tho since they did it for survival)
Yeah, at about 5 minutes in when you said "I'm beginning to regret watching this"- that was my thought too when I first saw it. Just finished it earlier today (ONLY in order to better see your reaction, so thanks a lot lol) :P
I'm just commenting now to say: I am currently in the process of watching this full movie myself (am about an hour into it... because of my hectic schedule I only have time to watch movies on my lunch breaks). And so far, I can't wait until it's over. Not because it's "bad"- it's NOT bad, it's amazingly realistic which makes it amazingly good as a movie. But I'm sure everyone who's seen the whole thing (or an hour of it so far, like me) knows what I'm talking about when I say it's really getting to me in terms of anxiety. And sadness; I got to the part where, as they put the bodies into one particular spot, they captioned specs; names, ages, etc. If I hadn't guessed before, that is what made me realize this was likely based on a true story and that's when the movie started to pull tears. I've also seen the movie "The Impossible" and I really think this one is even more intense. I think I remember comments about how they actually toned down "The Impossible" compared to the actual true story, and I thought to myself regarding this one, "It seems like they didn't tone down very much for this one..."
P.P.S. I can assure you that they did NOT "forget about it after a year". Every one of those heroes has gone on to live extraordinary lives, not to mention, an inspiration to millions. I watched closely, your reaction. I think you might want to buckle up. You're in for a bumpy ride.
you can see the actual pictures of that tragedy online and they are terrifying, the one with the metal things on the ground cause they got so used to eating the bodies that they just the bones around and to hide it for the picture they would just toss something over it its heartbreaking
I think I saw a teenager watch a movie for people with formed criteria. Your jokes, misplaced. I hope you can see it again when you have matured a little. With respect, but in Uruguay it is a sensitive issue because the relatives of the dead still live and the survivors, who, by the way, have had great lives, are a group of brothers who always meet, they are very united.
Some of the actual survivors like Nando Parrado, who was portraying an Airport Family Member, Roberto Canessa a Chilean Hospital Doctor or Carlos "Carlitos" Páez were starring in this movie. Carlos was playing as his father Carlos Páez Vilaró for the actor that played him.
when i heard about this for the first time it was from MrBallen watching his videos at night. the real survivors said that this is really accurate which is even more sad and fucked up seeing it. it’s so sad, i cried especially at the end when they were getting all dressed up for the cameras when they knew they were about to be saved, just the feeling knowing that. i couldn’t imagine what they went through, and what they had to do to survive. i thought numa was gonna make it cause i thought he was like one of the main people, but it was sad when he died, it was sad when all the ones that died. seeing the plane crashed was so sad and fucked. seeing the real pictures with them is sad. it’s crazy how this story has been around all this time, and they’re just now making a movie about it. i mean they're tired and don't have alot of energy in that damn situation tf.
This story changed my life. I was a person before and other person after this amazing story. Great paradox. They ate their dead friends but there were a lot of love high there.
New reaction about Society of The Snow, new opportunity to cry again
Every reaction i see on youtube i react and it gets me crying over and over again. Its an addiction help!😂😂😂
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i think i've learnt spanish just by watching all of the existing reactions to this movie :D
"Llorá conmigo"
Same jajaj
the fact that this didn’t win the Oscar still infuriates me
Me too. I was disgusted it lost to some war movie no one cares about.
@@SevenEllen did you watch it?
I know the make up and sound design was amazing!
@@SevenEllenyou mean zone of intrest??
It’s a scandal indeed!
The monologue about Liliana's death that had you tearing up is the way Javier described what happened in the avalanche in the book about the tragedy.
Both him and his wife were on the plane because his cousin Pancho Abal was part of the rugby team, Javier worked for Pancho’s family , they owned a cigarette company and he invited him on the trip because they were hoping to expand to Chile, that's also why they had so many cigarettes on the plane, Liliana came with him because they were planning to celebrate their wedding anniversary. He was the only one who survived, Pancho passed away during the first night after the crash from his injuries and Liliana during the avalanche.
Javier passed away in 2015, so even though he wasn't able to be a part of the making of the film like the rest of the survivors, hearing the actor say his words exactly was really moving. I'm glad they found a way for him to tell his story in his own words even though he has passed.
Sus hijos pudieron verlo y eso es grandioso
Jesus loves you ❤️
Reading this almost made me cry again
The airplane crash was the most realistic depiction I've seen
him: 22 - 23 days i guess 😊
me: 72 days 😭
This film is 95% close to the reality that the survivors experienced, they participated very closely, there is also a book about this tragedy. In the film there were many scenes that could not be filmed because they were too strong and tough. For example, when they started eating human meat, many of them vomited non-stop for days, many of them became sick. They also tried to eat cotton or the leather of the seats.
The last woman to survive ( Liliana, the 34-year-old girl who was married to one of the survivors), had an important role as a nurse, many said that she was like a mother to them (especially the youngest ones of 18 and 19 years old). She was a great psychological support, and she consoled them when they were sad. Numa learned a lot from her and he was a kind of nurse after her.
She never wanted to eat human meat, she only ate a little bit just 1 day before the Avalanche. Unfortunaly she died.
*I'm from Chile and we are separated from the rest of the countries, in the east by the Andes Mountains, in the South by Antarctica, in the West by the Pacific Ocean and in the North by the Atacama Desert. So we have always been isolated from the world in the past, when airplanes did not exist ,many people died trying to cross the mountains, and many planes crashed (when they were basic and just beginning to exist)
Yea, i was literally just trying to imagine what uncooled human meat thats been frozen for several weeks would even taste like.. i doubt u can eat the organs, did they just eat the fat, muscle and skin? (did the skin have.... hair?)
and how do you choose what to eat first? Ugh. I cant even imagine it. I know im focusing on the wrong thing but I just cant get it out of my head.
@@uggggggghhhhhbut they would need to eat the fat for energy, those people were starved so they needed as many calories at they would get for energy, I saw the pictures of the bones and they were cleaned off 😬they did what they had to do to live
Think I read somewhere that the guy that found them was quite poor and basically gave up all the food he had. For this the rest of the survivors looked after him until his death and continue to be friends with his children
Glad you watched it in it's original language
True cinema fans do. Imagine watching dubbed movies? Gross! Takes you entirely out of the experience.
@@anthonyorsini yes. Absolutely
@@anthonyorsini depends on the country, some countries have high quality dubbings and can at times improve the original
@@anthonyorsiniagreed
@@G59METHnothing can improve above the original because things get lost in translation and it’s disrespectful to those who made the movie
25:56 even the little details in this movie are amazing, vasco screaming for his dad and knowing that in real life his father went to jail for going up the mountain and bring back home his boy's remains to be buried with the rest of his family in Montevideo (all the other victims of the plain are buried in the mountain, it's illegal to take any remains, I cant remember why) vasco your daddy hear you, your daddy went there on got you back 😢
omg 😭
Too bad they didn’t win the Oscar for best international cuz this is a great survival movie
I understand why the survivors choose Numa, he was the last to die, he resist eating human meat and also his words at the end is technically saying that he does not judge them and he gives his consent to eat his body if necessary 😭🤧
Me and my family recently watched this movie last month and we were all blown away by how emotionally heartbreaking yet truly realistic this film was as you felt the urgency and desperation of the characters drive to survive yet feel the loss of those who died and me my parents, and my little brother collectively cheered once the characters were saved at the end just giving us a collective burst of hope and relief. This film is excellent and the fact that its a true story truly blew us away, especially with how much this film respected and honoured the real life tragedy and incident in general
Qué hermoso que la hayan visto en familia!! Es un n mensajes de amor la película! Debemos cuidarnos unos a otros para poder subir, como dicen ellos, nuestras propias cordilleras! Solo no es posible!
For the people who are mad // Para las personas que se enojaron:
He literally told us in the beginning that he is gonna laugh and make jokes because that’s is his coping mechanism, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. Be kind.
Español:
Al inicio literal dijo que se iba a reír porque es su mecanismo de defensa no mamen jajaja y hasta pidió perdón en anticipación. Los ingleses tienen ese tipo de humor negro y nimodo tocó soportar. Llevo años viendo a Seb y me encanta su contenido, tenemos que entender que hay personas que prefieren reír que llorar pero eso no significa que no entiendan la historia. Como latinos nos llega mas el sentimiento obviamente pero si decidieron ver el video aunque el avisó que iba a hacer chistes para no llorar ya es decisión de ustedes verlo o no🫶🏻
difference between coping and continuously.
netflix once again proved with this movie that they have no idea what audiences like. they didn't do anything to help this movie become a success and yet when it dropped it quickly became their second most watched foreign language film EVER. and then they scrambled last minute to do some oscar promo but it was too little too late. they put too much money and focus into maestro which went home with nothing. it's crazy that after all this time, they still haven't learned. they did the same thing when they dropped stranger things back in 2016 in the middle of the summer with zero promo-- audiences found it all on their own, recommended it to friends and family, and it became a hit on word of mouth alone. only then did netflix get involved in marketing. they need to do some serious restructuring there because those dummies know nothing about what audiences want.
ANYWAYS i highly recommend the making of documentary on netflix as well, it's a little over half an hour and really gives some great context to how everything was done. i have so much respect and admiration for ja bayona, he really had a very specific vision for this and he made it happen and it's incredible.
I can promise you, Seb. They never stopped being grateful for surviving. They didn't forget but they kept living. 😊
Mate you have just made my Friday thank you so much for reacting to this. I am from south america and this story is part of our culture.
Amazing reaction, thank you for sharing it. Thank you as well for watching it in Spanish.
A few facts:
Nando made quite a recovery because even when his head swelled with the impact, it was facing the cold metal of the plane when he was left outside because everybody was thinking he was dead or about to die. The cold served as a very cold ice pack to heal the swelling in his head and make him better. Daniel Maspons I believe or Diego Storm, cant remember which Daniel was (both died during the avalanche) who was another medicine student thought after the first night it was a good idea to bring Nando to a warmer area inside the plane.
The idea Nando had to want to eat the bodies came out of anger that the pilots' negligence got them to be stuck in the mountain helpless. Let's not forget he lost his mum, sister and 2 best friends. Nando's anger it's what pushed him to want to get out of there no matter what.
They were peeing black because of severe dehydration.
Numa when Marcelo died said they have been waiting for a moment like that, a moment of peace. Marcelo after finding out the government stopped looking for them got very depressed and kind of lost hope. Some of the survivors say that they think when Marcelo was trapped in the snow during the avalanche he let himself died because he could not fulfill his promise that rescue was coming and all of those people were in that plane because he planned the trip. The guilt and despair kill him, the avalanche was just his way to let go of that burden.
Fito was the one who thought of making water, glasses to protect their eyes from the reflexion of the sun in the snow and also chose the bodies that would be eaten along with his cousins Daniel and Eduardo. Fito was called the inventor. The cousins how the call themselves were those who carried the biggest burden of all, to know which friend they were eaten and cut that friend to be eaten.
Carlitos, the young person who crashed into the suitcases with his car at the airport, was a spoiled child who came from a wealthy family. He was very spoiled, he even had a nanny, after this trip his perspective of life absolutely changed. In the plane, he was in charge of making sure there were not drafts in the plane or reduce the possibility of drafts using the suitcases and plane seats, he was very good at it. He also was the one who made the sleeping bag that Nando and Roberto used to protect them and sleep during their walk to Chile.
They had so so so so many cigarettes because in Chile cigarettes were scarce and Javier Methol, the man who lost his wife in the avalanche, worked in a Tabaco company so thought it was a good business to take a lot of cigarettes and sell them in Chile. In those years if you went to Chile with a few dollars or had some out of the market products you were a millionaire. Chile was going through a horrible economical crisis.
Numa did not get injured like that in the real events, someone walked on his leg by accident because of the lack of space in the plane and because he was not eating his body did not have much strength to recover from the bruise. He was the last one who died and his death pushed Nando and Roberto to say fuck it lets do this, let's save ourselves because no one else is going to. The others 14 left in the plane also had a plan b in case Nando and Canessa did not make it which was putting together another team to hike the mountains.
The actual survivors loved this version more than the 1993 version, because it doesn't idolise the survivors as the heroes, instead recognises and considers those who died and their memory. In the alive version some families did not give permission to use the real rugby player's names. In this versions all the families were happy and satisfied with the way the story was told and gave permission.
Reporters kept digging in a very nasty way how they survived, what did they eat, etc. The survivors were very secretive and ashamed about saying they ate human and were scared to be judged, being Catholics, by their families and friends also going to jail. They had a press conference were they answered to reporters questions ONCE instead that addressing the situation 100000 times to every reporter who asked. They asked the reporters and people for respect of their choices considering the very harsh circumstances they had to face. Pancho Delgado (Numa's best friend in the movie was they one who spoke in this conference) He said that Jesus gave his blood and body to save the world so the survivors took their friends bodies and blood for them to be save. Pancho also asked the reporters to please not spoiled with yellow press and judgement an act that was sacred to them and something that was done for pure survival instinct.
The actual survivors made a Kameo in the movie Nando, opened the door to the actor who played him at the airport, Roberto Canessa was one of the Drs in the Hospital when they got rescued, Coche Inciarte reading a newspaper in the bar Numa and his friends were, Numa's real life nephew passing by Numa's house when he was entering and Carlitos, who read all the survivors names, were is different scenes. The house shown as Numa's house in the movie was actually his real house back in 1972.
The reason why Zerbino would not leave without the suitcase it's because he hoped that tokens from the death people, like personal belongings such as jewelry, rosaries, ID's, letters written before dying were taking back to give to their families. That actually happened the real survivor refused to leave without the suitcase and when back home he personally went to each of the families homes of the passengers that did not survive to give them something that belonged to them, so the families even when not having their bodies they could have something to remember them by.
In the movie isn't shown but the rescue was in 2 stages. They had to rescue one lot of people that day and the next lot the day after. Some survivors had to stay another night waiting for the other helicopters to arrive. Those left behind the first day were left with food and a team of rescuers. A survivor said most of the rescuers were scared of them after seeing all the human remaining all over the place and made sure the survivors knew they had a gun. Also the smell and dirt was unbearable. Only one rescuer Sergio Diaz, I believe he is called, stayed in the plane with them that night, ate with them and advised them about what they were going to face after everybody knew they have eaten human beings.
There is a man who was part of the search team that were looking for the plane during the 71 days the survivors were stranded on the mountain. His name is Claudio Lucero and he had made quite strong arguments in the media about how he believes the 27 people left alive in the plane after the crash planned and plotted maliciously all the events that happened to them to gain fame. He states they could have left the mountain days before the day they got rescued, but chose to stay longer and go through hunger and lost to become famous and earn money.
Wow thank you for all this information! I love learning about the real story, and I can’t believe the last comment about Claudio. How soulless of him to even suggest something like that.
En realidad no mantuvieron el secreto por estar avergonzados. No lo ocultaron a su familia ni a los médicos. Pero querían decir ellos mismos a las familias de los muertos lo que habían tenido que hacer en vez de dejar que se enterasen por la prensa. Por desgracia, uno de los rescatistas vendió las fotos que había sacado en el lugar del accidente. Posiblemente el mismo Claudio Lucero, que no les buscó durante 71 días, sino durante 10.
Los actores comían jamón y pasteles hechos para parecer trozos de carne. Llevaban una dieta muy estricta, perdieron una media de 20 kilos cada uno. Estaban tan motivados que, cuando volvían al hotel, forzaban las puertas del gimnasio para hacer ejercicio y adelgazar aún más.
Los 71 días de la montaña se rodaron en orden cronológico, para que se apreciara el deterioro físico y la pérdida de peso.
Hay cosas en la historia real que resultan escalofriantes. El jersey rojo que lleva Roberto Canessa en la cola del avión lo sacó de su maleta, que estaba allí. Se lo había hecho su novia, con la que aún está casado. Era un jersey muy grueso, demasiado para un país como Uruguay, y, cuando Roberto le preguntó por qué lo había hecho así, ella contestó que tenía la sensación de que algún día lo iba a necesitar. La víspera del viaje, le mandó una nota en la que le pedía que llevara el jersey, aunque en Chile y Uruguay era finales de la primavera.
Laura, la esposa de Roberto, cuenta que el 19 de diciembre por la tarde recuperó el ánimo por primera vez desde el accidente. Luego supo que, en aquel momento, Roberto estaba dejando detrás la nieve, y recogió una piedra para regalársela como recuerdo.
La madre de Daniel Naspons soñó poco después del accidente que su hijo estaba bien, que sólo tenía un golpe en un ojo. Y así era. La noche de la avalancha, cuando él murió, su madre tuvo la sensación de que todo había terminado.
El arriero que los encontró se llamaba Sergio Catalán. Cabalgó durante diez horas para entregar la nota de Nando en el puesto de Policía más cercano, donde le llamaron borracho y le acusaron de crear falsas esperanzas en las familias. Sólo cuando leyeron la nota comenzaron a creerle. Roberto y Nando estuvieron en contacto con él durante años, y cuando necesitó operarse la cadera, le llevaron a Uruguay para que pudiera hacerlo.
El médico del equipo de rugby iba en el avión con su esposa. Murieron ambos. Dejaron cuatro hijos, el mayor de once años, y los sobrevivientes siempre estuvieron atentos a lo que pudieran necesitar.
Lucero is a jerk. One of the survivors said that when he went to rescue them, from far away raised his shirt and showed them he had a gun!
Can u imagine? These people were desperate to leave the mountain and this jerk was showing them a gun like saying one false movement and i kill u all … he is one of the worst human beings, ever!
a part that I can't ever stomach thinking about is that when numa died he weighed about 55 pounds. so heartbreaking
It's awful to think about but how did they know he weighed that specifically?
@@cherrellj6785Some of the bodies were found intact by the research team, as his. They studied bodies and Bones.
I just wrote a 2000 word research paper for college over this movie and I read Roberto Canessa's autobiography "I had to Survive." I was comparing the movie to the real life recount of the events on the mountain. This movie is an actually very accurate depiction. The reasoning behind this is because the man who wrote the book that this movie is based on is a classmate and friend to many of the survivors. He was able to write an accurate book because he had the help of the survivors, so the creators of the movie were bale to work off something already accurate. The creators also chose to film in the crash location site for a lot of scenes in the movie. This story is heartbreaking and so moving. I'm happy you are able to learn their story like I did.
Another thing is that is the first film to use the names of the deceased as well. In the past the families didn't give permission, but this is also why it is so accurate because it gives a voice to those who died.
The skinny bodies is not CGI, the actors lost a lot of weight for the film.
They did lose weight for sure, but they used dolls for the most explicit parts where they're naked and the camera shows their legs and so.
@@NazaQuintanano
@@andressousa9006 si
@@andressousa9006 yes lmao look for the behind the scenes
@@andressousa9006it’s actually correct
The film is a cinematic masterpiece, not only because of the aesthetics, art, photography, make-up or script, but because they managed to tell the story as real and truthful as possible, to the point that the survivors actively participated in it and say that when they see it they relive in their minds everything that happened. It is wonderful the way in which Bayona manages to show the harshness of what happened with an artistic touch and a strong emotional charge and for the first time not only highlighting the figure of the survivors as heroes but also those who died and did not make it out of the mountain, which is why Numa's voice as narrator is so important. Each of the actors met the real person they were playing and most of them managed to create a bond with them, moving from interpretation to reality and giving the importance it deserves to what each survivor felt, because as they have already said, each one remembers the mountain in a unique way. THANKS FOR REACTING! It wasn’t getting a lot of attention from reactors :(
There are numerous cameos by actual survivors in this movie. Nando Parrado is seen holding the door open for the actors portraying him and his family at the airport. The man announcing the names of the survivors is Carlitos Paez who is now portraying his own father. At the end when the survivors are shown walking into the hospital Roberto Canessa is seen as the doctor walking directly behind the actor portraying him. Also Numa’s nephew is seen as the man that Numa says hi to right as he gets home at the beginning of the movie. This shows how involved many of the survivors and also family members of those who did not make it back, were involved in the making of this beautiful and moving film.
I also thought they would have plenty of water bc of the snow & was confused about why they were so dehydrated. Apparently the body converting frozen water into it’s usable liquid form expends more energy leading to further dehydration.
Also, for water to hydrate us, it needs to have certain minerals, which the water up there does not have. No minerals on water = no hydration
Also, despite how much "water" is up there in snow form, the air is dry because of the low humidity at that altitude. Just sitting still and breathing was sapping their bodies of water. And because of the thin air at that altitude, which means lower oxygen levels, they were constantly having to breathe more heavily. Thus losing more water. Moving around and being active made it far worse.
The film was partially filmed up at the Valley of Tears where the fuselage actually came to rest. JA Bayona went up there and filmed things for the backdrop of Mt. Seler (named by Nando Parrado in honour of his father), plus the surround for the Andes. The sound mixer also recorded things like the wind and how the snow sounds up there to be used in this film. So it is by and large authentic to the experiences these boys went through.
As for Numa Turcatti. Numa was the one righteous man we see once in a lifetime. He was a law student who was about to take the bar to become a lawyer. His arguments against eating the dead was based on both his spiritual beliefs, and his studies in law.
The four days buried was because in tandem with the avalanche, they were also experiencing gale force winds and a four day storm. That was why the shelter of the fuselage was better until the storm was over.
Arturo died of pneumonia. His lungs were full of fluid. Usually antibiotics could help, but up there Roberto and Gustavo had nothing. As for them being clean shavn, not all men grow bushy beards. Some may have tons of head hair, but very little if no facial hair.
The actor playing Numa is Enzo Vogrinzic, actually lost about 50 pounds during the filming. He went from 150 to 103lbs. All the actors were on a closely monitored diet to fully depict the trials the actual men went through up there. As one's body begins to diminish, they become somewhat old as they no longer have the suppleness of the muscle they had. The protein in the bodies gave them nothing but lean energy, but not carbohydrates we all need to sustain us.
As for Numa dying. He was the voice of the dead, the ones who didn't return. The ones who survived are still close to this day. There are 14 left as Javier Methol (the man who lost his wife) died in 2014, and Jose Luis "Coche" Inciarte (the one who needed help walking) died in 2023. They still gather on rescue day, or as they call it "rebirth day." They have all gone back up to the crash site many times since 1972. One of them, Eduardo Strauch, is part of an adventure team that takes civilians up to the crash site. All that remains up there is wreckage as the remainder of the fuselage was burned and the bodies buried in a communal grave.
Roberto Canessa (med student) and Nando Parrado (man who lost his sister and mother) have been called exceptional in what they did. Mountaineers and alpinists from Ed Viesters (summited Everest five times) and others have called what they did as amazing considering they had no equipment and no training. Also not to forget their physical condition.
As for the long-term effects of what happened. Many of them do suffer from a form of PTSD, but with the other survivors they have help and support.
The one thing I have to say about these boys. If you remember from the beginning of the film, Numa's voice over stated many of these boys had known each other when they were young. Many of their fathers knew each other as many played rugby for Stella Maris College as teens/young men. These men formed lasting bonds that have survived to this day due in large part to their faith, and their love....always love for each other. And at the end of this story as it still is 52 years later, it is all about the love they had for each other and the love they had for the ones who didn't return. This story is about the power of love. Could we all wish to have the same spirit these men had and have today. I've been with this story since reading "Alive" back in 1976. I have followed these men since then. The one thing I have learned from them is not to squander away your life as you might not know what as Roberto Canessa has said, "When your plane will crash."
Some info about where they all are today. Roberto Canessa (med student and one of the ones who made the walk) is now a world renown pediatric cardio thoracic surgeon. He operates on fetuses inside their mother's wombs in order for them to be born healthy and life their lives as they should. He has won many awards for it including many in the United States.
Nando Parrado (one who lost his sister and mother) is an vintner, and former race car drivier and who is now a motivational speaker.
Many of them including Gustavo Zerbino (other med student) and Adolfo "Fito" Strauch have become long term associates for Stella Maris College in the rugby program. The same one they came from. Javier Methol (man who lost his wife) was a tobacco grower and successful business man. Moncho Sabella lives in Argentina and is a successful agriculturalist. A lot of the others have gone into other things including public speaking as has Carlitos Paez (guy whose father was looking for him.)
Some trivia: Nando Parrado can be seen in the airport opening the door for his "family" and his portrayer, Agustin Pardella. Roberto Canessa can be seen aiding his film portrayer, Matias Recalt when they get to the hospital after the rescue. Coche Inciarte can be seen directly behind Numa Turcatti actor, Enzo Vogrinzic, in the pub scene with Gaston and Pancho. Ramon Sabella can be seen in the airport as an extra. Carlitos Paez (guy who made the sleeping bag) played his own father, Carlos Paez Vilaro who didn't rest until his son was back safe. Juaquin Turcatti (Numa's actual brother) is seen in the night outside the home Numa grew up in. Those were Numa's actual books he used to study from. Gustavo Zerbino is seen at the beginning as a rugby coach.
In summation, this film was made to remember those who died. This is the first time the names of the dead have been used as the relatives of the dead refused to allow their loved ones names to be used in other productions: "Survive" 1976, and "Alive" 1993. This film is a dedication from the living to the dead. It is their voice Numa speaks for.
i live in Argentina, in the state where this happened and it's so weird/cool to see this tragic story travel around the world
hi compatriota :)
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They wanted to film this in the Andes but it was too cold so it was shot in the Sierra Nevada in Spain.
The fact that this actually happened is insane.
The cards are Spanish suites, and they're gorgeous! They closely resemble the Italian ones, so that's why some of them resemble Tarot cards (they were used to play a game called Tarocchini before the whole divination thingy)
actually those are Tatu cards... they are playing truco
@@_bella2345 Tatu cards are Spanish-style suites though and truco is a Spanish game
@@luciagil9008 i know they are spanish style… but everyone knows about Spanish cards. Truco may have originated in Spain but that is not where its most popular
This movie is an example of life. "Value that you have shelter, food, water, health and work. Happiness is in the simple things in life, the rest are colorful mirrors that this consumerist and materialist world sells you." That is the message of the story of the Andes.
The survivors took care of the guy that found him for the rest of his life and take care of his children to this day. But yeah most people wouldn't be grateful that long. But this wasn't a typical group of people.
I didnt know that I watch this in english dub on netflix AND THE ENGLISH VOICE ACTORS ARE INSANELY GOOD and I rewatch this in spanish to respect the flim director in the way it suppose to be watched
I checked out the english dub after just to see and i was really impressed with how well it lined up and how similiar they got the voices
Thank you so much for reacting to this one. It's worth doing a little research about the remaining survivors and their interviews, 14 out of the 16 are still alive. One of the 2 deceased survivors made it to see the film before it aired and then died. And there are a few of them in the actual film as cameos. This film surely deserves mass recognition and love, it is a beautiful tribute honouring Numa and all of them. Best film in a very long time in my opinion. A real treasure and a real life lesson.
P.S While watching this film it is important to remember that this happened in the 70s to a very religious group of people. It helps to understand the mentality and the dilemmas they faced. Faith is a big theme in this one although personally I agree with Arturo’s perspective.
I recomended this film in one of your videos just after watching it, it is one of the best movies I've seen recently, glad that you have experienced this amazing movie. I'm spanish and I'm proud of what J.A. Bayona and all the amazing Uruguayan actors have done.
I watched this randomly a few months ago and had no idea what I was getting into. Beautiful film!
Writing letters in a critical situation is common, in war it was used a lot, especially in the Second World War. This letter reaches its destination, not the author.
Thank you so much for reacting to this movie. I’m uruguayan and you have just brought me so much joy ❤️
3:00 those are spanish playing cards!! very popular in south america for many different games. and it is actually one of the decks that inspired tarot yes!
an interesting fact about the radio message saying that the search for the plane was canceled is that in reality it was more like good news for most of them because it meant that they could now start depending on themselves and not in others... that's why is called SOCIETY of snow... they worked together. Nothing like others fictional movies where there's always a point when the survivors want to kill each other... kinda cliché tbh. But this story's got some crazy details that got skipped in the movie because it was a lot of days but I strongly recommend watching the survivor's podcasts or books.
Btw I'm from Chile and love your channel... So seeing both you and my country in one video is kinda sick
I never comment on videos and a few videos ago i comented that i wanted you to watch this movie so i'm super happy that you did!!!! (even if you didnt see my comment) I'm from argentina and a filmmaker and this movie broke me, i'm really glad that people all around the world are watching it. Love your videos and love You!!
"Which part of the body are they eating first?"
According to the book, they ate the buttock first - from the pilot, because they blamed him for the crash.
It's so great when you watch real cinema like this instead of comic book movies and such. You're a good reactor.
The final days before the scene where Numa dies and you see him extremely thin is real! Not CGI or anything like that. Enzo Vogrincic (Numa) and the rest of the cast had to lose between 7-23kg during the filming period. Some more, some less. That, and the make-up work done on them highlighted how thin the survivors were by the time they were rescued. The actors really gave their all to show the world what happened in the Andes.
I heard you say that this story should be taught at schools, and I AGREEEEE with you. Here in South America, particularly Uruguay, Argentina and Chile (at least when I was little) we heard of this or read the books or were taught this at school at some point. I don't know if the younger generations nowadays learn about this as well or not, but the 90's kids have known of the heroes of the Andes since young, and they truly are a living inspiration for most. Sometimes I like to say that Nando Parrado is Superman's hero hahahah. I enjoyed your reaction, and I understand that you joked around to cope with this and not cry. Thank you for clarify it at the beginning, tho.
You have to know some things, there was no water. Snow is distilled water and does not quench your thirst or hydrate you because it does not have minerals. They were Uruguayans, they did not know the mountains, since Uruguay is on the Atlantic, bordering Brazil and Argentina. There are no mountains, the highest hill is 500 meters. In Uruguay there is no snow, the maximum that the temperature can lower is one degree below zero, it only generates frost. And it was also spring in Uruguay, they didn't wear coats or boots. Without food, without water, abandoned in the middle of nowhere, without knowing where they were, at 30 degrees below zero and at 4000 meters above sea level.
Yeees Seb!!! This movie was one of the best movies I’ve seen and it makes me happy that you reacted to it
They filmed the movie in Sierra Nevada, Spain. They were at the actual place where all happened, too. And it all happened during spring and summer
I also stopped of the detail of the tarot cards, the meaning of the two of swords shown on screen means being torn between two options/ difficult decision to be made when upright, and being stuck /having no choice when reversed... very beautiful but haunting. Id like to think this was a reference to Carlos Paez Vilaró resorting to psychics and tarot readers to look for his son Carlitos Paez
Those arent tarot cards... those are tatu cards. They are playing a very popular game called truco. The two swords can be the most powerful one sometimes. So i think its an ode to uruguayan culture more than a tarot analogy.
@@_bella2345 oh wow!! Thank u sm for this i always wondered if that was intentional or not, i just looked them up they look just like the ones from marsella deck !!
@@belenrevelo definitely intentional! Maybe not in tarot but still. They actually really look alike, i had never noticed.
as someone who watched all the oscar noms every year, this one truly was the most harrowing - how they weren’t nominated for cinematography and meastro did is absurd! also u need to watch poor things - by far the funnest nominee this year!
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when the narrator died 2/3 into the movie my jaw dropped - just how bleak it all was
BRO never thought you would watch this. much love from argentina 🇦🇷
This is currently my favourite movie, thank you so much for reacting to it and for doing it in spanish
If u find this heat breaking, then try your luck with “The Road” that movie broke me….
I’ve never seen a movie like this! I was shocked amazed saddened . What a movie!!!
La película se grabó de forma cronológica para poder grabar la pérdida real de peso. Las partes con el avión se grabaron en España y también viajaron a la zona del accidente a grabar con algunos actores la expedicion del final y exteriores. Las imágenes representan la localización y paisaje exactos. La historia en sus momentos más importantes es realmente exacta. El rescate realmente sucedió en 2 días porque las condiciones meteorológicas eran muy malas.
Some facts about the movie:
Three of the survivors made cameos in the movie:
- Fernando "Nando" Parrado: opens the airport door to his character at the beginning of the movie.
- Roberto Canessa: Plays a doctor when they are received at the hospital because he is a doctor in the real life.
- Carlos Paez Rodríguez: Represents his own father (Carlos Paez Vilaró) when he reads the list of survivors reading the name of his own son (“Carlitos Miguel Paez, my son”).
- The house where Numa arrives is the real Numa's house and the walker is a Numa's nephew.
- The suitcase that Gustavo Zerbino didn't want to leave in the Andes was full of belongings of the deceased that he took to their respective families.
- The actors underwent a diet under strict medical supervision so that their bodies would more realistically reflect the effects of what the survivors went through.
- The survivors and the families of those who passed away say that this movie is much more faithful to the real events, unlike the film 'Alive!' which was more of a spectacle than a tribute. In addition to changing the names of the characters, they altered almost the entire story.
- All the survivors (except for 2 who died in 2015 and 2023) are still alive. You can search for their accounts on Instagram.
- The location of the accident (Valle de las Lágrimas [Valley of Tears]) can still be visited today, starting from Argentina (as it is a substantially shorter journey): it takes several days on horseback and hiking through the mountains. It requires several days of planning and good physical condition.
- They were there for 72 days. On the first day of rescue, they took some of them and a group of rescuers stayed who set up a tent a little away because of the smell. The next day they rescued the others.
See more info in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571
Hugs from Argentina. 🤗
You have to consider that almost all of them were very religious teenagers, that's why the idea of eating from a human body was so hard for them, and in top of that, those were the bodies of their just deceased friends
Based on an amazing story! Loved the against the odds podcast on it. You’ve gotta react to the Chilean miner incident which I believe is called the 33
It’s just a copycat of the original movie
@@worldwrestlingdrafting5949 original movie? Sorry if I sound like an idiot here but all the only one I know about is the 2015 movie based on the true events of that mining incident where 33 Chilean miners were trapped by a 2000 foot tall rock collapsing and blocking off the tunnels
@@Lmg1161 no. The society of snow and alive. Not the mining one. Sorry
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So every movie about the holocaust is a copycast of the last movie made about it?
With that logic, Alive is a copycat of Supervivientes de los Andes (Mexican movie from the 70s)
Nice you react to this, honestly one of my favorite movies of the last few years
The real survivors from this tragedy do give out speeches here in uruguayan schools and also worldwide, so this is taught in schools at least here in Uruguay. The survivors are a lot older now, and one of them, Coche Inciarte has unfortunately passed from an illness (he got to live a long and ahpy life with his wife and kis though) but from what I've seen in interviews and stuff I think they are still grateful for the lessons learned through this experience, but as much as this was their collective experience, you also have to consider that at the end of the day each one of them lived (or experienced) it differently. And that's something they always talk about in the interviews, at the end of the day they are their own individual human beings and the way in which they remember the story, and live with it to this day is different because they are,
Always a good day when Seb uploads a vid
"Where are they crapping?"
According to the book "Alive!" - They got constipation because they swallowed all the meat without chewing. Later they started drying the meat under the sun, it got putrid and gave it a cheesy flavour - which they actually enjoyed. Soon after, all of them got diarrhoea.
Thank you for watching it in the original language...that means so much to me & don´t know how to explain it but...yeah. Thanks.
J’attendais cette réaction ENFIN 😍
SEB!!! I AM SOOOOO HAPPY U DID THIS. this movie was absolutely beautifully made. don't know how it didn't win any awards
Because it’s a copy
Soooo many tears with this one. It was so well done though. 💜
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At 6,961 m high in the Andes it is worse than a desert since the oxygen is less and you become dehydrated three times as much as in a desert.
There should of been an Oscar for this movie
Hahaha they rubbed each others feet and toes to avoid frostbite and keep blood flowing.
I'm really thinking that this story can have a second part and 3rd part from the relative's perspective and the life of the survivor till the present.
Imagine Nando's father, in Montevideo, without knowing anything about the "lost" airplane. His daughter, his son (Nando) and his wife were all in the plane. Cannot imagine losing so many relatives...
I live 5 minutes away from Carrasco international airport, and I used to see a Fairchild flying around, the uruguayan air force used it for training pilots, for years. That Fairchild was eventually retired a couple of years ago.
The guys couldn't make their expedition to get away from there because of the low temp. But as we are in the south hemisphere, December is plain summer, and the temp. became more tolerable. Nando and Roberto were ideal for the task, they walked more than 10 days, to finally reach that valley.
Numa, if it wasn't for the infection in his leg, pretty sure he would have made it. He was really close... A couple of days more...
I read the story about this in the 8th grade in school (1979) and wrote a paper on it. I can’t believe it took so long to be made into a film.
Glad to see you watching it!
“I thought that was a gun” BRUH IM CRY LAUGHING STOP
2:57 Don't mess with "Tatú" cards, the traditional Uruguayan brand. 😠🤣
It's an interesting, incredibly sad true story.
I know the survivors had to eat the deceased to survive, but since watching the film, I've often wondered how the families of the deceased felt about their loved ones who hadn't survived the initial crash, being eaten by the survivors. It's hard enough to be told your loved didn't survive, but then to discover they were eaten must have been horrendous.
2:58 those cards are called "barajas" and is used to play a card game called "brisca" its simple but pretty fun and imo the better card design compared to a normal deck of cards
they're used to play a lot of games not just one
@musalyrics28 yeah meant to specify its the game ive growed up with im sure theres a ton more u can play
@@worldrise9398 yeah i figured, that's cool :) i know them as "cartas de truco" you can play truco, buraco, la casa robada, chancho va, pedro and a lot more i just don't know em haha
In my country baraja it's just the pack of cards. Any cards to play any game
@tubodeluzfria yeah we call a normal deck in my country "paquete de cartas" to differentiate them sometimes
Awesome reaction of my favorite movie!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
i usually find this channel's reactions really inauthentic but i love this film so much
If you’ve never seen it, you should also react to ‘the impossible’ from the same director. It’s amazing as well
YESSSS YOU WATCHED THIS 😭😭🙏🙏🙏
(not so) fun fact: they actually were ALMOST considered guilty and went to jail because of the canib*****m (the government spared them tho since they did it for survival)
i know exactly what you mean about this film being uncomfortable to watch...the cinematography and acting was next level!
New seb vid made my day 🙏
such an amazing film but very hard to watch
Yeah, at about 5 minutes in when you said "I'm beginning to regret watching this"- that was my thought too when I first saw it. Just finished it earlier today (ONLY in order to better see your reaction, so thanks a lot lol) :P
I'm just commenting now to say: I am currently in the process of watching this full movie myself (am about an hour into it... because of my hectic schedule I only have time to watch movies on my lunch breaks). And so far, I can't wait until it's over. Not because it's "bad"- it's NOT bad, it's amazingly realistic which makes it amazingly good as a movie. But I'm sure everyone who's seen the whole thing (or an hour of it so far, like me) knows what I'm talking about when I say it's really getting to me in terms of anxiety. And sadness; I got to the part where, as they put the bodies into one particular spot, they captioned specs; names, ages, etc. If I hadn't guessed before, that is what made me realize this was likely based on a true story and that's when the movie started to pull tears.
I've also seen the movie "The Impossible" and I really think this one is even more intense. I think I remember comments about how they actually toned down "The Impossible" compared to the actual true story, and I thought to myself regarding this one, "It seems like they didn't tone down very much for this one..."
P.P.S. I can assure you that they did NOT "forget about it after a year". Every one of those heroes has gone on to live extraordinary lives, not to mention, an inspiration to millions. I watched closely, your reaction. I think you might want to buckle up. You're in for a bumpy ride.
you can see the actual pictures of that tragedy online and they are terrifying, the one with the metal things on the ground cause they got so used to eating the bodies that they just the bones around and to hide it for the picture they would just toss something over it its heartbreaking
I think I saw a teenager watch a movie for people with formed criteria. Your jokes, misplaced. I hope you can see it again when you have matured a little. With respect, but in Uruguay it is a sensitive issue because the relatives of the dead still live and the survivors, who, by the way, have had great lives, are a group of brothers who always meet, they are very united.
Some of the actual survivors like Nando Parrado, who was portraying an Airport Family Member, Roberto Canessa a Chilean Hospital Doctor or Carlos "Carlitos" Páez were starring in this movie. Carlos was playing as his father Carlos Páez Vilaró for the actor that played him.
when i heard about this for the first time it was from MrBallen watching his videos at night. the real survivors said that this is really accurate which is even more sad and fucked up seeing it. it’s so sad, i cried especially at the end when they were getting all dressed up for the cameras when they knew they were about to be saved, just the feeling knowing that. i couldn’t imagine what they went through, and what they had to do to survive. i thought numa was gonna make it cause i thought he was like one of the main people, but it was sad when he died, it was sad when all the ones that died. seeing the plane crashed was so sad and fucked. seeing the real pictures with them is sad. it’s crazy how this story has been around all this time, and they’re just now making a movie about it. i mean they're tired and don't have alot of energy in that damn situation tf.
Why am I addicted to watiching your reactions I get excited when you post and watch your videos all day long
I never thought this day could come. This is amazing
As we get rolling, I appreciate your disclaimer about the jokes. Happily, your eyes tell the whole story.
I was scared to watch this as I knew I’d be emotional. Thanks for doing it for me
This story changed my life. I was a person before and other person after this amazing story. Great paradox. They ate their dead friends but there were a lot of love high there.
from what i read they could not poop, they were all massively constipated
I love the plushy mini-you with the popcorn bucket! 😄
the fact that the survivors had to take a flight over the same route again to return home to Urugay.
29:41 there's a movie called "Alive" based on this story that a lot of people in America watched in school.
6:03 my anxiety could never...I always think worst case scenario up in flames or something 😩🤣
They filmed it in Sierra Nevada, Granada, in Spain. The director is Spanish, so I assume it is related.
yes, they were raised catholic so it was really hard for some of them to eat the bodies
Wish I wasn’t dyslexic. Love the videos ❤