Wiring a 220v Welder Electrical Extension Cord - Quick/Simple - But is it safe?
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Video showing how I made up a temporary welder extension cord using SO cable, 50 amp electrical outlet and some basic wiring. Tapped into an existing 30 Amp breaker in a fuse panel outside that was not being used. As you can see in the video this worked out well for me. Keep in mind I am not a licensed electrician, if you are uncomfortable performing this type of work on your own, by all means pay a professional. Your safety is your responsibility. Confirming that this is a 3 wire 220v or 230v or 240v 50 amp cord.
Keep in mind that the length of the wire will have an effect on what gauge you can use. The longer the wire, the thicker the wire needs to be for a given amperage draw.
This is something that the average homeowner or shop owner can do at home electrical work on their own. But again, safety is the key, and your comfort level. Also this type of work should never be rushed, take your time, think through what your doing before you start tapping into existing electrical boxes, fuse panels, breaker panels
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I made a 50ft extension cord for my everlast inverter welder. Very useful to have as I run my welders off of the dryer outlet back in the house.
ME TOO
I'll try to do the same but not sure if my 50ft will reach my new shed/workshop.. Can you have longer than 50ft on a welder extension cord,?
Good shit bro I’m trying to find more videos like this where you can see how the welder connects the actual welder power cord to the breaker
Just asking why didn't you just take the breaker out then take the wires off ? also use a insulated screwdriver if working with power on.. I know this from experience..Just suggesting to be safe. You can possibly get arc flash in some power panels using a screwdriver if not careful. I've seen it happen..
Good video Gary. I use only 3 wires out of 4 too if I'm using it as an extention. White with black tape on it becomes my hot if I don't have a red. Normally it's black and red hot white neutral and green ground, that's today's code. However if you don't have 4 wire or don't want to waste money use white as hot and have no neutral. I use 100ft 10/3 soow works great on inverter machines.
So no ground or nutral? Whats the purpose? About to set my house on fire.
@@pedrolopez7590 neutral is different than ground
i understand this is just a temporary cord. i am just offering what i would do. i am not criticizing you in any way. if you were looking to make a better extension using "so" cord, you would need #10 copper wire to handle 30 amp welder. would not use that "house receptable" for moving around. it is meant for permanent mount only. the plastic will break very easy on concrete and a shop setting. if i was making one instead of buying a premade molded cord i would use a 4 square bell / water tight box with a recess mounted receptacle.
Great points, thank you sir
#8/3 wire would be the proper wire to use
How I made my extension cords up a long time ago was I put a ad on Craigslist that I was looking for 6/3 wire and one guy contacted me. That wire was real expensive to buy. But I ended up getting it cheap that way.
that's a good thought. #6 wire is plenty big enough for 50 amp welders for sure
Works for temporary use. As long as it's gone before the code man shows up. lol
If I put up a video like this, the haters would attack me for sure.
Oh they will attack no matter what, if your not getting trolled, your not putting yourself out there enough! lol
I only have a 40cb is it enough for my 300a welding machine?
🙈 thanks great information
Do you know what gauge Extension cord for just a 110 outlet. Looking to get 25’ cored for when I don’t have 220 available. Thanks for the video.
My stove plug is the old 10-50 3 prong plug it has red and black as hot and neutral is white. I can't find anything about going from a stove plug to my welder just from a dryer plug to welder. My old stove 3 prong plug is on a 40amp breaker with 6/3 wire and the ground is only connected to the box. Is that OK to go from to my welder would I just use the neutral as a ground when I go from the 10-50 3 prong plug to the 6-50 50amp rated plug..
Great work Gary.
I chuckled at about the 11:48 mark. lol
Hey, when you opened the sub panel, I did not see the neutral separate from the ground… is that ok to do?
No it is not okay everything in this video is wrong and not up to code sub panel has to have a separate ground bar grounded to the box and the neutral cannot be bonded it all has to be separate and as far as his feeder wires they are way to small for the power he is using should be using a 3-4 copper or a 2-2-2-4 aluminum feed for that amount of power at least and should have a 4 wire connection not 3 sub panels need 2 hots a neutral and a ground
At 11:36 you scatred the shit out of me !..............Good one!!
Hello, can I use UF 6/2 cable instead of NM ? It is cheaper for me at Lowes for some reason. Thanks
you got me on minute 11:42 hahahaha!! it was good ! good info
Green is Ground, White is your Neutral ... Black is what your fingers will look like if you're aren't qualified and go messing around anyway. Basic colour guidelines
lol, good stuff. I think white can be used as a carrier in 220-240v applications based on the research i did
I'm not an electrician but I know Black will make you Black
mcinkyt you can you white as hot if you don't have a red. Black and white hot (stripe it with electrical) and green ground. That's for 3 wire set up. 4 you would have red as white then would become neutral. It's an extension cord so no ones going to be messing with it. It's not that difficult.
Get grammar right
Where does the brown wire go?
The pain in my elbow was so bad I couldn't squeeze nasal spray up my nose. Went and got shot the doctor said it would be uncomfortable the next day that was an understatement
It felt like my arm was coming off but that night pain went away gone. If I had known that I would have gone sooner. Strangely
Its not from moving your arm its from squeezing your hand. I was squeezing a pressure sprayer that got me. Anyway got to make a extension cord for welder.
Looks like it worked great Gary but I am sure you are going to make a few of those safety people head's explode Lol
oh big time, that's why I mentioned several times about safety being the responsibility of the person doing the work and if they are concerned, hire an electrician! But yes, even with all the disclaimers, the hate will be coming my way!
Why the steel rafters (trusses?). Is something you had laying around? Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it.
Just needed to span 20ft and it's how the rest of the building was constructed, and yes I had one of them, and bought the rest
I'd like to do that for a carport/ outdoor workspace. Maybe one day... thanks again for your videos.
I'd like to do that for a carport/ outdoor workspace. Maybe one day... thanks again for your videos.
Proper wire would be 10-2 awg. The neutral becomes your hot. So it would be black, black with white strip and green for ground
The dryer plug has 4 wires
The welder 3
So there’s a wire that is not used (the neutral not sure)?????????
Extension cords are the typical way to make welding machines mobile. They're a lot less expensive than running longer welding leads (which are still well worth having) and can be hung off your welding cart if desired. (I use scaffolding casters with large wheels for my welder cart and will never buy conventional casters for a welding cart again!)
If ya find one long cord awkward turn it into two shorter cords.
Twist-lock connectors are much nicer to deal with and more durable than the traditional wall receptacle style shown so if you convert your wall receptacle to twist lock, replace your male welder cable with a male twist-lock and use them on the cord you'll have a much better product. I have many cords and mix of parts but converted my shop to twist lock since it's much more durable and safer over repeated disconnections running a variety of equipment. The home gamer setup shown can last many years but the plastic shell breaks easily so I use the ends designed for cable instead. This style Forney is also at many hardware stores with a Forney welding products display. Their stuff is decent.
www.amazon.com/Forney-58401-Electrical-Receptacle-Pin-Type/dp/B003X4338G?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Lastly do price shop cable because prices vary wildly. Your local electrical supply house and Ebay are worth checking too. Hardware store prices tend to be highest by far.
I got a outlet that reads 125/250 i have a 220 welder but the pattern is diffrent if i change the plug will i have any issuess ?
I am not an electrician and do my own stuff the best i know how, but yes, you should be fine, look at your welder, it should give you an input voltage range and you can see if it will support the 250 input
Hi mr. Ramsey
How are you?
Can you help me please
How I can get a welder which can work on both power supply of 220 volts and 240 volts please?
I am looking forward to have one which is Australian standard welder.
Thanks
I'm the US at least, there is no such thing as 220 or 230 anymore. Hasn't been for a long long time. People just say that. But the voltage delivered by the power company is 240.
I need to make an extension for my Everlast TIG welder.
Im trying to do the exact same thing idk if I'm going to change the outlet on my dryer or make and extension cord
8/2 works best for wire
Just BUY one! They're cheaper and heaps better than that with the crappy metal/plastic ends and the wimpy wire. Sorry, but true.
Why are you sorry? I don't think you are sorry at all. Just call it like you see it, you don't need to apologize, lol. Trolls are constantly dropping in leaving random comments, so I don't mind at all. The reason I didn't buy one was because no one around me sells them, and I needed something to get temporary power, and I already have a regular 25 ft extension cord as shown in the video and I don't need another one, and it did the job, so why not? yea!!
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Not around you but you can have it there tomorrow......... Chop it up and use it. WAY better.
Drop that plastic end once on the concrete and it'll shatter. Way better copper too.
As for I know it, there is not a 12/4 wire.
too much light
20 amp breaker = 12 gauge wire. 30 amp breaker = 10 gauge wire 40 amp breaker = 8 gauge wire 50 amp breaker = 6 gauge wire
So a 8/3 wire has one red, one black, one white and one copper (ground). 8/2 has everything but the red wire.
Thanks Mark. When he said he "THINKS" had 12 awg wire for a 30 amp circuit AND A 50 AMP RATED receptacleI laughed. It's scary what some of these DIY'ers are doing regarding electrical work.
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**** Check you polarity with a MultiMeter!!!!!!!
i converted my dryer plug a 10-30 to a 6-50 nema then i am running a 40ft extension with little to no voltage drop. Thats why i went with 8/3AWG instead of 10 because of the distance.
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I have 8/3 . How long can my extension cord be before power drops? I have a 50 ft. I'm not sure yet, but I think my shed is much further than that away from my outlet.. How far can I go with 8? Can I find thicker gauge for more distance,? Thank you
colors first because theirs different colors the rest is easy
220 221 whatever it takes
Who illegally installed the sub-panel? Why did you not just mount the receptacle under the illegal sub panel with a short piece of conduit and do it correct?
The receptacle used is for surface mounting as you said. It is absolutely not tested or listed for an extension cord. Why not just buy a cord cap receptacle and do it correctly? #12 is wrong! It should only be used on 20 ampere max circuit breaker or fuse. You should have used #10 minimum for 30 ampere breaker, or #8 for 40 or 50 ampere breaker. I still do not understand why most UA-cam videos show incorrectly making cords. And then say, “I’m not an electrician, don’t do this”. Why even make the video? Views and money.
YES, you sound nervous...ha ha.
Anyone that works with elec. Is nervous at different levels. When your an experienced electrician you do it so much you don't see the nervous to much. A pair of good electrician gloves will help. Use wire nuts even if temp. Much safer. Most people can learn the basics and save a lot of money. But do everything you can to protect yourself. By a way most that get bit don't die. You here stories so you think that anytime you get electrocuted your going to die. If that's the case I would be dead a long time a go. Anyway good job
You should be wearing jeans my man. And long sleeves. And a cap. Safety first. Also you probably should have run the wire though a knockout on the panel just to be safe. And since you have space in the panel you might as well have gotten yourself a 50A breaker. Why run the risk? And it gives you the option of turning up the amps if you need to. And why not just get some 6/2 wire with ground like I did. It cost me $1 per foot. Not that expensive and way safer. That way you can plug in any welder up to 50A without worrying.
And to answer the title question.....NO it is not safe....on multiple levels.
Just bought a Titanium 225 Stick Inverter Welder from HarborFreight and it specifically says not to use an extension cord on the unit. Strange.
"You're responsible for your own safety, not me". You should heed your own advice!
That's not even funny
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